FKK Artemis - Berlin

[QUOTE=The Limey;1437642]In the case of the Artemis thread, there is a special problem, and that is that Artemis basically has a monopoly on the FKK business in the capital (don't mention La Folie, I've tried it and it's useless) , unlike other areas of Germany like Hesse and NRW that have a great number of options and healthy competition. Just as a thought experiment, given that monopoly situation, the high prices at Artemis, and the large number of tourists that Artemis tries to attract from the nearby Messe, what kind of temptation must the management be under to ensure that no negative reports appear in the principal English-speaking site for FKKs, and try to control it by driving off independent reviewers and having their own men in place? Again, I realize it is practically impossible to prove this kind of thing, and again, this is precisely what makes it so insidious. But the patterns are there for anybody with the patience to trawl through this thread.[/QUOTE]I never liked Artemis. As the only choice, I go there when in Berlin. But, compared to my favorite Oase, at Artemis.

There is too much silicone, though some silicone is of absolutely outstanding quality.

There are too many German girls. German girls are too commercial, matter of factly, cold. Call me prejudiced.

Tendency is, they are too old, too experienced. I just like the fresh young natural girls.

But, most guys are not like me, and among 80 girls you find something.

Now I visited La Folie [url]http://www.la-folie.de/en/[/url]. Euro 15 admission with right for one drink. Quite friendly FKK atmosphere. Small. Some dogs and aging women, but a few very cute young Romanians. Euro 75 for half an hour in the room, no upsell. Covered BJ. Mixed reports at German monger boards, most were not very positive.

I would say: if you are able to adapt to the German mentality, culture, heritage, your life at Artemis will probably be easier.

Basics; If you manage to see the beauty and charm in this video, you have somehow done your homework.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1G-9WUgptY[/url]

Try to understand that DFK and GFE don't come naturally for 60 E. Do not expect love from a vampire, it's about deficiency of ability, the intraholistic big picture containing Autobahn, Sauerkraut has not equipped most of these girls with such qualities. At home with a boyfriend is another story. Romanian girls though, totally different, but observe their behaviour when you rebuff their attempts. Their group-mentality is even more scary than the single wolverine called german princess.

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby; 1440860]I would say: if you are able to adapt to the German mentality, culture, heritage, your life at Artemis will probably be easier.

Basics; If you manage to see the beauty and charm in this video, you have somehow done your homework.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1G-9WUgptY[/url]

Try to understand that DFK and GFE don't come naturally for 60 E. Do not expect love from a vampire, it's about deficiency of ability, the intraholistic big picture containing Autobahn, Sauerkraut has not equipped most of these girls with such qualities. At home with a boyfriend is another story. Romanian girls though, totally different, but observe their behaviour when you rebuff their attempts. Their group-mentality is even more scary than the single wolverine called german princess.[/QUOTE]A perfect picture of what is needed in order to find Artemis enjoyable! Thanks Zimmerbaby!

[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist;1440763]German girls are too commercial, matter of factly, cold.[/QUOTE]That's what we say about the 100's of Romanian strippers who work in my hometown.

Not saying there aren't some great Romanian FKK girls cause there certainly are but percentage wise I personally do much better with the German girls.

Artemis Thursday 27th June: Nina & Hannah.

I am used to it. I go to Berlin always end of June when summer is just starting and the big holidays. Unfortunately, no summer weather in Berlin this week-end (except Monday) , so no time to enjoy the new swimming pool and wellness area at Artemis (too cold and no sun outside)!

No good line up.

Anyway, I go with my favorite ones that were there tonight, Nina (Czech girl, many time mentioned in this forum, no need to argue, she worth it) and Nina (Polish girl, nice looking girl, great haircut, great body, I really like her).

Long and hard day, back to the hotel at peace (and tired).

Artemis Saturday 29th June: Brigitta & Brigitta.

Came back on satursday late in the afternoon. Still no good line up. I recognized Sabatina (PL) , the first girl I went with at Artemis, now she look 10 years older with smaller tits, scaring (

So I went with a 'valeur sure' Brigitta. Been with so many times. So was hungry on my the last trip as I fucked her like a sex machine. Tonight, she was in other mood. Great body (no fat!) but not all naturals. Very good attitude in bed. Great time for sure!

Artemis Monday 1st July: x-girl, Stella, Sarah and Kylie.

Final four!

On my last day, I came at Artemis early (at opening). Great weather: hot and sunny. Spend many times in the new space for sunbathing until they put the music loudly outside (

No regular at this early time of the day, so let's experiment!

X-girl (don't remember her name) , German (from Hamburg) , brown and long hair, nice looking face, tall, big tits (fake) , tattoo all over her harms (both) many symbols or faces or name (in her back, adbul if I am not making wrong) , a skull on one of her hand, so many. She looks like a pornstar but I didn't feel it in bed. No emotion, no sensation at all. I would agree with Brazil Specialist « German girls are too commercial, matter of factly, cold. '. Anyway it was sunny and I had time to spend outside)

Stella, half Polish half German, blond, nice face, average body, but so funny, she hanged me around three time before I accept to come with her. Very good girl with some kind of harsh talking that go straight to the point. A real human experience even though you may be looking for sex.

Sarah, Spanish girl, blond MILF, big tits (fake) , I saw her many time but didn't went in room with her. Today I try. Sexy and experienced woman. Good time but I will not repeat.

Kylie, Czech girl, brunette, long hair, look sad but great body, all natural and no fat. Cath her in the swimming pool and went immediately in the new room outside. Good time, good sex, came on her face with all I got) I will see her again.

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[QUOTE=Indi Companion;1441016]A perfect picture of what is needed in order to find Artemis enjoyable! [/QUOTE]Boys you are making this all hopelessly over-complicated. Though I know the esteemed Zimmerbaby is saying all tongue in cheek (the metaphor, not his favorite pastime) , and his musical tastes are as suspect as ever, the fact remains that all you need to have a great time at Artemis is:

80 Euros to get in the door.
60 Euros for every half hour session.
A little bit of common sense, a smile, and some respect.
Your lips, tongue, and penis. (Other body parts are helpful but not essential).

All this nationality talk is quite frankly IMHO idiotic. There are sharks and angels and everything in between in every country and every ethnic whatever. It is all up to her, you, and individual chemistry.

Of course there are those in any bordello who are really in it just for the money and who couldn't care less about anyone' s pleasure, including theirs. But these are a rarity and are pretty obvious to detect after a 5 minute chat. No one has cornered the market. I have met awful, sharkey, placid Latinas and seriously fun, open and passionate Germans, and the opposite. Of course we all have our preferences, but to say anything stronger or more generalized is rubbish. So-called "nationality insights" are just projections of some individual bad choices, limited experience, and cultural predispositions or prejudices.

I wish we could finish with this subject for good. Or at least move it to the Lounge (if the toilet is locked). RB

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1441332]All this nationality talk is quite frankly IMHO idiotic. There are sharks and angels and everything in between in every country and every ethnic whatever. It is all up to her, you, and individual chemistry.[/QUOTE]I think that's very true, I have heard many times for example that some people don't like the Polish "team". I on the other hand have never had a bad session with a Polish girl, at least not in Artemis, but this is of course as subjective as their opinions. I however think that I can feel the vibe from some girls directly if they are sharky, but that's probably also verry subjective.

On another note, this girl Nina everybody is talking about. I don't think I have ever seen her, and I have visited the place several times, but not as frequent as you how live in Berlin. Or I have probably seen her without knowing how she was. I read a good report on another forum about a session with her and I have read plenty of enthusiastic reports here as well. I guess she's not working in mid July?

The funny thing about that review, that I read on the other board. Was that the guy how wrote it where there while they still where doing construction work on the new rooms, but still they went to one of these unfinished rooms, I guess because he wanted to see how it looked.

The room was dark and there where unfinshed plastering and electric cables hanging from the ceiling. Since the the room was so unlit he decided to turn on the lights, typically no light went one. But in a minute or two, a big bouncer crashed the yet not started party, and wanted some type explaining. Apparently this guy had pressed the panic button. But she was a sweetheart sorting out the situation. And the rest of the session went well off course. If the story is true, dunno. But it could be.

[QUOTE=Finite; 1441428]On another note, this girl Nina everybody is talking about. QUOTE]

Is this girl dark haired Czech? Did she work, a number of years ago under another name at World, then after at Finca? Just wondering. Or is Nina a popular Czech name? Martina, sure is.

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[QUOTE=Finite; 1441428]On another note, this girl Nina everybody is talking about. QUOTE]

Is this girl dark haired Czech? Did she work, a number of years ago under another name at World, then after at Finca? Just wondering. Or is Nina a popular Czech name? Martina, sure is.

O[/QUOTE]Yes, she's that Nina. She was at World and was the star at Finca.

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[QUOTE=1441485]Yes, she's that Nina. She was at World and was the star at Finca.[/QUOTE]Birds migrate towards the Nile.

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[QUOTE=Finite;1441428]This girl Nina everybody is talking about. I don't think I have ever seen her, and I have visited the place several times. I guess she's not working in mid July?[/QUOTE]Nina is there now-impossible to say if anyone is working even the next day, let alone 2 weeks into the future, and at the height of summer holidays even more of a crap shoot. You can always ring the front desk shortly before a visit, ideally just past 8 pm when all who will be there, are. Most girls who travel sort of tend to leave on a Sunday, so while they might not work all nights Thurs-Sat, in general the odds sort of go up if you ask on those days. But it is a highly individual thing.

It is also possible to email Artemis (see their webpage) and in theory you could ask a week or so in advance. You might get a reply if you make a strong case, saying it affects travel plans, troop movements, currency futures, and your masturbation schedule etc. No guarantees as it will depend on the mood of the staff who might or might not take the trouble, and if a girl knows her schedule in advance and that does not change because of some unknown unknowns. But you could try.

For those of you interested in who looks like what, the "girls" page on the Artemis website is your first port of call. With all its limitations (blurred faces, often out of date, some girls' pictures not posted in case their fathers are surfing, names change, hair cuts and coloring, recent cosmetic surgery etc.), nevertheless, it is a fairly reliable and useful guide. Nina has 3 pictures there and they are a good representation of how she looks.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1441498]Nina is there now-impossible to say if anyone is working even the next day, let alone 2 weeks into the future, and at the height of summer holidays even more of a crap shoot. You can always ring the front desk shortly before a visit, ideally just past 8 pm when all who will be there, are. Most girls who travel tend to leave on a Sunday, so while they might not work all nights Thurs-Sat, in general the odds sort of go up if you ask on those days. But it is an individual thing.

For those of you interested in who looks like what, the "girls" page on the Artemis website is your first port of call. With all its limitations (blurred faces, often out of date, some girls pictures not posted, names change, etc.) it is a fairly reliable and useful guide. Nina has 3 pictures there and they are a good representation of how she looks.[/QUOTE]I know it's perhaps impossible to say, almost as impossible as to recognise her from the pictures on Art's Website. How many girls have dark hair and trampstamps and some other tattoos on their bodies, in this type of establishment. I hope you don't mean that [B]all[/B] The girls leave for summer holliday, talk about some wasted 80€. Since I don't go there for their yummy food or the pool / sauna area. Guess I have to try out the gym then, to get something for my money. When I visited last summer it where a lot of girls from other FKK:s like Samya and Palace, at least I hope the management try to replace the regular girls, with something that is similar to their usual standard.

I saw that you edit your post, thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=Lookoflove7;1441091]Artemis Monday 1st July: x-girl, Stella, Sarah and Kylie. X-girl (don't remember her name) , German (from Hamburg) , brown and long hair, nice looking face, tall, big tits (fake) , tattoo all over her harms (both) many symbols or faces or name (in her back, adbul if I am not making wrong) , a skull on one of her hand, so many. She looks like a pornstar but I didn't feel it in bed. No emotion, no sensation at all.[/quote]X-girl = maybe Nika.

[QUOTE=Lookoflove7;1441091]Artemis Monday 1st July: x-girl, Stella, Sarah and Kylie. No regular at this early time of the day, so let's experiment![/QUOTE]IMHO X-girl Nika (?) and Stella are regulars, at least.

[QUOTE=Finite; 1441503]I know it's perhaps impossible to say, almost as impossible as to recognise her from the pictures on Art's Website. How many girls have dark hair and trampstamps and some other tattoos on their bodies, in this type of establishment.[/QUOTE]Ciao Finite. My suggestion is to keep it simple. Just grab a girl that you already zimmered with (or that you know) and ask her to show you Nina, without calling her. At least that's what I did last time when I wanted to spot Lotus and didn't have a clue about what she looked like.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1441526]IMHO X-girl Nika (?) and Stella are regulars, at least.[/QUOTE]Hi, I was meaning no regular for me (eg never session with).

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