London

Since there is some discussion about decent providers in London, some good, some bad; I thought I'd ask about these two.

Kara Rose [URL]http://kara-rose.co.uk/[/URL].

And.

Nappy Valley ***** [URL]http://nappyvalley*****.squarespace.com/[/URL].

Any thoughts or experiences.

Slapster

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1936264]Hi Star,

You could've done yourself and other readers of this thread a favor by posting the Essentials to any report to make it useful and informative, like name of agency, Link? Name of the Escort? Price & services advertised and agreed? Could job you a didn't your report on any of the well known UK sites. Other readers take note.

Your report as it is make it as useful as the novel (The Missing Link) by Kate Thompson.[/QUOTE]Hey Jojo,

Maybe you shouldn't be so hard on the guy. It would seem on here that readers generally tend to check the vibe of the other posts in a thread and adjust their style accordingly.

So perhaps Star got the impression, rightly or wrongly, from the posts on here that it wasn't the done thing in the London thread to give away too much information about places they had found. Just like in the post below?

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1928911] LOL, lurkers and lazy mongers who are at present in London can make their own way down there and find out for themselves as there's no point in feeding them intel as they could easily find out for themselves by doing some research and a bit of leg work. This what mongering is all about.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dopey1;1937294]I take umbrage at London being 'hopeless'. I've had some of my finest punts in the world's greatest city. OK I'll declare my hand. I'm a Brit (Londoner) living abroad. I travel extensively through Europe, the Middle East, Far East and US. It just takes a little bit of research. AW is a great resource, and it's easy to determine which are genuine and which are not. A huge number of Agencies ply their trade, and there's a mutitude of other sources.

Just takes a (very happy) moment or two to research.[/QUOTE]We are of course all entitled to our opinions. For me, having mongered in Dubai, Australia, US, Sri Lanka, UAE, Spain, Germany, Prague, Barbados, Mauritius, Thailand and Poland, as well as nearly every major city in the UK. London is, indeed hopeless in terms of reliability. It is just so hit and miss. You say that with "a little bit of research" it is good. So ISG is a place for the sharing of information. Pray share. Tell us the results of your successful research. Where did you go for "some of (your) finest punts"? Give us some links to make the research easier.

The "do your research" line gets trotted out more on the London thread than any other on ISG. Usually without much corroborative evidence. Please provide some. It just might help other very experienced mongers (like me) reconsider the justifiably held view that London is hopeless.

[QUOTE=Krazydude;1937467]My experience is totally opposite to you. I live in London and have been punting in Central London for many years. You have to do your research and you have great punts.

Manchester. Don't live there, but I was up there few weeks ago and didn't enjoy the 2 punts I had there. To each his own I guess.[/QUOTE]I'm honestly delighted your experience is different to mine given that you live in London. So pray let us have the secrets. Instead of leaving members of this forum to guess (or get lucky with their "research") share the information please. You may have noticed that another post recently (not from you) gave almost the identical response. Umbrage at my description of London being hopeless and giving me a great tip. To do my research. I'm not lazy. I've spent many hours on research about mongering options in London. They come down to: swinger type parties, Soho walk ups where you have no idea what you'll get, AMPS, thousands of photoshopped girls on agency ads, ditto on adultwork, lots of false reviews, girls who turn up who look absolutely nothing like the girl you selected on the website, and more recently, the suggestion that you head all the way to one area of London in search of those cars in phone boxes which have particular numbers at the end! So you see, having travelled most of the globe mongering and having found London to be very poor in comparison not only to many other countries but also to several large cities around the UK (Manchester being the best and trust me I'm not Mancunian) if you say great punts are available in London, and I have no reason to doubt you, then do the forum a real service and provide the results of YOUR successful research which have given you some great punts. The forum is about sharing. If you read many of my punts from many corners of the globe in my reports you'll find that I very much want to share my experiences (and research) with other members for their benefit and this has happily attracted many grateful responses and the odd Report of Distinction. I don't do it for the latter. I do it for others to enjoy the fruits of my research and experiences (good and bad). For the second time in half an hour in the London thread I've now had to post responses to TWO members telling me (and others) to do research as they've had a great time in London. But without a single piece of useful information or evidence of where to look.

So it's great that you've got lucky in London. Now please help those of us who have found (despite research) that our results have been appalling. And I'm not the only one to bemoan the options in London.

For each and every person who reads this thread. Keep looking. It may just be that at long last we are about to receive a plethora of information about good punting options in CENTRAL London from our more knowledgeable brethren. I'm sorry if I sound p*ss*ed off, but punters telling everyone they've had a great time without posting any information are not giving anything to the forum at all.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;1937957] AMPS, thousands of photoshopped girls on agency ads, ditto on adultwork, lots of false reviews, girls who turn up who look absolutely nothing like the girl you selected on the website, and more recently, the suggestion that you head all the way to one area of London in search of those cars in phone boxes which have particular numbers at the end! [/QUOTE]Firstly, there are no secrets. What I'm about to mention below has been said before, so nothing new.

I don't do agency ads / girls, swingers / soho, neither the whole cars / phone box spiel. AW / Vivastree / Backpage is a minefield and the reviews on AW are seldom accurate. A lot of the times AW reviews are done to get numbers up; because certain WG's won't see someone without a certain number of feedback (in order to avoid time waster according to most of the WG's I've spoken with). I only see independent WG's. If I get a whiff that there is a pimp involved, I walk. If you are looking to go to a place and pick out of a line-up or basically sample before you chose, then you'll probably get that in some agencies, but the quality of this is quite patchy and again I'm not the best to advise on this.

I read UKP and UKE, discuss things with other punters on both, PM them and have even met few of them over the years. I can do this because I am based in London and am open to sharing my experiences with others (I don't know where you're based and how often do you travel to London). If you are not based in London, then read the UKP reviews and make a shortlist. Once you have a shortlist and know what you are looking for, then ask (on the forum or via PM) and you'd be surprised how many people are happy to share their experiences. Hope this provides you with enough information to go and do your research.

I was hoping to get up to London on a quick trip, but didn't have a chance. There is a place in an industrial park on Kelvin Way (I don't recall the name but you can find it with a Google search). Saw Chloe. Chinese, younger than I expected (probably around 30). Got a good massage for 1/2 hour then negotiated a B2B (didn't bring enough for FS if it was on offer). She did a splendid job and in particular when I asked her to take her time, she did so. Pleasant, smiles a lot, decent looking and in good shape. Slim. Would repeat, but as I said, a quick trip.

IFTTT, if its this. Then its that, and there is so much of it, drivel, on here. Summing up the research and experiences of many credible mongers on the most reliable escort agencies in London with the best girls to be found, nowhere else in the UK, only in London In no particular order complete with links. Allure, Bijux, Hamilton Escorts. [URL]http://www.bijouxescorts.com[/URL] ,[URL]http://www.agencyallure.com[/URL]. And here is a tribute to the greatest city in the world, the capital of the land of Hope and Glory. [URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=THYgeETrkPs[/URL].

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1937803]Hey Jojo,

Maybe you shouldn't be so hard on the guy. It would seem on here that readers generally tend to check the vibe of the other posts in a thread and adjust their style accordingly.

So perhaps Star got the impression, rightly or wrongly, from the posts on here that it wasn't the done thing in the London thread to give away too much information about places they had found. Just like in the post below?[/QUOTE]Hi Myrch,

I know its hard work to be a sex Samaritan educating newbies. And others who find other destinations in the world like, Mumbai, Sri Lanka, Mauritus, Barbados to be better places than mongering in London.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1937803]Hey Jojo,

Maybe you shouldn't be so hard on the guy. It would seem on here that readers generally tend to check the vibe of the other posts in a thread and adjust their style accordingly.

So perhaps Star got the impression, rightly or wrongly, from the posts on here that it wasn't the done thing in the London thread to give away too much information about places they had found. Just like in the post below?[/QUOTE]Hi Myrch,

I know its hard work to be a sex Samaritan educating newbies, And others who find other destinations in the world like, Mumbai, Sri Lanka, Mauritius, Barbados to be better places than mongering in London.

IFTTT, if its this. Then its that, and there is so much of it, drivel, on here. Summing up the research and experiences of many credible mongers on the most reliable escort agencies in London with the best girls to be found, nowhere else in the UK, only in LONDON where 99% of the best girls in The UK work. . In no particular order complete with links. Allure, Bijux, Hamilton Escorts. [URL]http://www.bijouxescorts.com[/URL] ,[URL]http://www.agencyallure.com[/URL]. And here is a tribute to the greatest city in the world, the capital of the land of Hope and Glory. [URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=THYgeETrkPs[/URL].

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1937213]Thanks for the report. Guildford a beautiful town and only half hour on a fast train from London. Beautiful countryside and amazing girls. Civvies. And pros. The Surrey girls. Must be the fresh air and the affluence of the area. There was another agency in Guildford called Guildford Gold that I think relocated to Cambreley. Surrey under a New name, Surrey Gems.[/QUOTE]There is no need for me to point out that Guildford is over 30 miles and over an hour's drive from London. Even if you go by train it normally takes over an hour unless you manage to catch one of these 'fast' trains. These fast trains only run twice every hour, and still take 40 minutes.

So it looks as if Guildford can be added to the growing list of other towns / cities like Milton Keynes which are now being discussed in this London thread as 'London' places.

It may be my imagination but it would appear that the further you get away from London then the more willing members are to provide full details of their exploits and the happier they seem with their experiences?

As a sucker for research and with all the hype and hoohah about how its so fantastic mongering in Manchester and how Centrally located the venues there, I started reading ISG reports on Brothels, walking there where any Tom, Dick, Abdul monger can just turn up there and get laid for50/60 notes ,1/2 hour plus extras which isn't for everyone. Here is what I found. Only 2 Brothels are actually in the center of Manchester, the rest and the better ones are located 30 minutes Metro ride away from the center which makes it a much longer ride than many of the Brothels in London with almost the same price range but with better variety and diversity. Cosmopolitan and Piccadilly selecta are the only Brothels in the center of Manchester, Portland street, No links for them. The rest and better ones like Sandy's super stars, La Maison. GFE Manchester, one needs a taxi or a 30 minutes metro ride With one branch of Sandy's located near Manchester Airport. Nothing there looks like the variety, diversity and sophistication of mongering opportunities available in London for any budget and preference. Based on the above I can't see myself or any of my buddies hoping on a train any time soon for the 2 hours plus, ride to Manchester.

[QUOTE=Krazydude;1938090]Firstly, there are no secrets. What I'm about to mention below has been said before, so nothing new.

I don't do agency ads / girls, swingers / soho, neither the whole cars / phone box spiel. AW / Vivastree / Backpage is a minefield and the reviews on AW are seldom accurate. A lot of the times AW reviews are done to get numbers up; because certain WG's won't see someone without a certain number of feedback (in order to avoid time waster according to most of the WG's I've spoken with). I only see independent WG's. If I get a whiff that there is a pimp involved, I walk. If you are looking to go to a place and pick out of a line-up or basically sample before you chose, then you'll probably get that in some agencies, but the quality of this is quite patchy and again I'm not the best to advise on this.

I read UKP and UKE, discuss things with other punters on both, PM them and have even met few of them over the years. I can do this because I am based in London and am open to sharing my experiences with others (I don't know where you're based and how often do you travel to London). If you are not based in London, then read the UKP reviews and make a shortlist. Once you have a shortlist and know what you are looking for, then ask (on the forum or via PM) and you'd be surprised how many people are happy to share their experiences. Hope this provides you with enough information to go and do your research.[/QUOTE]Thanks. At least a positive response with some information but please tell me this: if there are no secrets, and these details are readily available on the sites you list, why not post the results of who is good and who is not on ISG?

[QUOTE=PayForIt;1938243]Thanks. At least a positive response with some information but please tell me this: if there are no secrets, and these details are readily available on the sites you list, why not post the results of who is good and who is not on ISG?[/QUOTE]I do not see the point in replication. There are already sites available where you can get this information and people on ISG are aware of these sites (if not then hopefully my previous post is a step in that direction, if they wish to take it).

Please note: I am not here to promote these sites and I do not get any sort of incentives to promote this site. Neither am I in any way associated with people who run these sites.

[QUOTE=Krazydude;1938276]I do not see the point in replication. There are already sites available where you can get this information and people on ISG are aware of these sites (if not then hopefully my previous post is a step in that direction, if they wish to take it).

Please note: I am not here to promote these sites and I do not get any sort of incentives to promote this site. Neither am I in any way associated with people who run these sites.[/QUOTE]But it is not a replication on ISG. What is the reluctance? If you have a great punt, why not report on it here? I've been onto UKP today. I was a member previously but prefer ISG. There are lots of posts about White Lily Spa which I posted on last week. The fact that it has been reported on there does not make it wrong to post on here. If that were the case there would only be one thread for FKKs in Germany. Whereas there are many.

The same is true of many other countries and even the UK. UKP is full of posts about Manchester but the Manchester thread contains details of many locations mentioned on UKP. The more the merrier.

So given that you've had the great punts you've mentioned, please don't be shy and do post details of who was good and bad. It's the whole purpose of ISG.

For some really bizarre reason, the London thread is littered with people saying they've had a great time, not saying who with, not providing links, and inviting research away from ISG! Its almost as though there will be a public hanging for posting detailed information on the London thread. The constant referrals to research (not on ISG) really does raise some serious suspicions that as I and others have queried. That there really are not many very good options in London. I know Jojo will jump on this with details of phone boxes, or someone else will post something about a great punt in Guildford. But can anyone with great experience of a line up in central London please post details of where? The fact that I've posed this challenge so many times now and nobody can post particularised information speaks for itself.