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[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2162241]Depends how long you mean by LTR (weeks, months etc). And the 2 pinays are to be with you all the time, so in bed, in mall etc yes? I have had times with 2 pinays for a few weeks (and taking some out the Philippines for holidays) as well some off threesome type / regular arrangements but depends what you mean LTR (fun or serious stuff?
PM me if you like.[/QUOTE]Yeah, like months or years maybe, depends. I may retire to the Phil.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2162467]But we do know one thing, it is always the poriners fault when it doesn't go well![/QUOTE]The assumption throughout this discussion is that foreigners tend to marry hookers. The discussions makes no mention of those of us who have stable, long—lasting marriages / relationships with women who have never seen the inside of a hooker bar and would be revolted at the thought of doing so. I know many, myself included, with such marriages to college-educated, smart, ambitious women who place their husbands first in their interior hierarchies of relationships. Maybe, just maybe, for those seeking such relationships it would be more productive and more satisfying not to start with a bar girl.
GE.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2162579]The assumption throughout this discussion is that foreigners tend to marry hookers. The discussions makes no mention of those of us who have stable, longlasting marriages / relationships with women who have never seen the inside of a hooker bar and would be revolted at the thought of doing so. I know many, myself included, with such marriages to college-educated, smart, ambitious women who place their husbands first in their interior hierarchies of relationships. Maybe, just maybe, for those seeking such relationships it would be more productive and more satisfying not to start with a bar girl.
GE.[/QUOTE]I personally don't refer to prostitutes only, when I express my vision towards Pinays. However I think that most of Filipinas can be described as "pay for pleasure" girls, since the majority of them choose foreigners because of their wealth. It doesn't matter, whether she just spreads her legs in exchange of money, or pretends to be a good girl / loyal wife to gain material benefit from your side.
I believe, that your case is a rare exception, and she loves you and not your wallet in the first place, but in most cases that is not so.
Also I want to note, that classical model of family implies, that both parties are loyal and honest. When a husband is a monger, who is used to visit AC from time to time to fuck WG there, he should expect a similar behavior from his spouse as well. Maybe I am wrong, but so far I haven't met any married Pinay (or who is in a serious long term relationship), who would have willingly and humbly accepted her husband to fuck other girls, without cheating or scamming him in return.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2162579]The assumption throughout this discussion is that foreigners tend to marry hookers. The discussions makes no mention of those of us who have stable, longlasting marriages / relationships with women who have never seen the inside of a hooker bar and would be revolted at the thought of doing so. I know many, myself included, with such marriages to college-educated, smart, ambitious women who place their husbands first in their interior hierarchies of relationships. Maybe, just maybe, for those seeking such relationships it would be more productive and more satisfying not to start with a bar girl.
GE.[/QUOTE]You raise a very valid point. Unfortunately, most mongerers on a 2-week sex vacation to the Philippines are unlikely to come into contact with "college-educated, smart, ambitious women who are likely to place their husbands first in their interior hierarchies of relationship". They only meet hookers. This is a hooker discussion board.
I hope you don't mind my asking, but since you are obviously in a "stable, long-lasting relationship" which is "productive and more satisfying", what are you actually doing on a hooker discussion board?
Anyone who brings his Eastern wife to a Western continent to live is a damn fool. Go to her country and marry her and you will likely be seen as a hero but to bring her to your country is downright stupid. She will quickly pick up all of the bad habits of her new Western fat ass, loudmouth, pussy precious, self serving. Liberated feminists friends; and the dumbass that married her is now in a world of shit. I have seen this happen to my own close friends and it is always regrettable and usually turns out ugly. If you want to marry the pretty thing keep her in her own country but as far away from her relatives as possible.
[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2161449]Do filipinas expect their foreigner marriage to actually work? How much responsibility do they take when it fails?.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2162633] ..............I hope you don't mind my asking, but since you are obviously in a "stable, long-lasting relationship" which is "productive and more satisfying", what are you actually doing on a hooker discussion board?[/QUOTE]Spot on!
Could not have said it better myself.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2162465]You've got to ask yourself, how could this union possibly succeed? Both go into the marriage without working through the consequences. Let's break it down into basic elements:
SNIP
[/QUOTE]ED.
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Hey guys,
I'm 29, I managed to talk an out-call legit massage therapist to have sex. I say legit because I am actually a good looking Fil-Am and did not offer her any extra money (it was only Pp250 per hour). She's young, 24, but has two twins. So she had two babies at the same time. She gets incredibly loose very quickly, but also very wet very quickly. This is the only time, even after having sex with many P4P girls with surely consistent clients and work, that I've experienced this.
To be clear, it isn't the opening that is so loose, it is the inside. I feel like after the first inch, I am alone in open air with nothing hugging the rest of my dick.
I think she was sex-starved because of how wet she got.
I keep searching the internet for the truth about vaginas after sex. I only find results by women. No honesty, all positivity, no objectivity.
I think motherhood is incredibly important and definitely screwed up now in western cultures, but I would like to know the reality about vaginas after childbirth.
Hypotheses. Vote 1 or 2 or other. With thoughts / explanations please.
1) Women get loose after childbirth after a short time, but with true nutrition, exercise, self-care. It returns to completely normal. BUT, most women, will never realize this as none are truly hardcore healthy. These are probably unicorns.
2) No, the vagina does tear and there is always some kind of reduction of tightness. Good practices only minimize the amount of damage / reduction in quality of sex.
Good point ED. Some recent posters have been overgeneralizing about the Philippines with only the hooker environment mindset. For some members here, including me, this is a bit uncomfortable This really is much more than a "hooker discussion board". I've received great info about travel destination, hotels, restaurants, culture, biz, etc.
As a young man, I spent many weeks in Subic Bay back in the 80's. I was the same age as the dancers. There were live bands rocking out. It was bacchanal. I'm not here to figure out the bar and bar girl games. Been there, done that.
Many years ago I became interested in Davao based on reports from a member here. I visited, met him, met his partner, met gals, had a fantastic time, been back to Davao four times. And I've been to Philippines countless times.
You might find a thread here called "chat rooms". I requested that based on my own interactions with gals online.
The newer guys searching for a quality GF can learn a lot here too.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2162633]You raise a very valid point. Unfortunately, most mongerers on a 2-week sex vacation to the Philippines are unlikely to come into contact with "college-educated, smart, ambitious women who are likely to place their husbands first in their interior hierarchies of relationship". They only meet hookers. This is a hooker discussion board.
I hope you don't mind my asking, but since you are obviously in a "stable, long-lasting relationship" which is "productive and more satisfying", what are you actually doing on a hooker discussion board?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dante702;2162683]Hey guys,
I'm 29, I managed to talk an out-call legit massage therapist to have sex. I say legit because I am actually a good looking Fil-Am and did not offer her any extra money (it was only Pp250 per hour). She's young, 24, but has two twins. So she had two babies at the same time. She gets incredibly loose very quickly, but also very wet very quickly. This is the only time, even after having sex with many P4P girls with surely consistent clients and work, that I've experienced this.
To be clear, it isn't the opening that is so loose, it is the inside. I feel like after the first inch, I am alone in open air with nothing hugging the rest of my dick.
I think she was sex-starved because of how wet she got.
I keep searching the internet for the truth about vaginas after sex. I only find results by women. No honesty, all positivity, no objectivity.
I think motherhood is incredibly important and definitely screwed up now in western cultures, but I would like to know the reality about vaginas after childbirth.
Hypotheses. Vote 1 or 2 or other. With thoughts / explanations please.
1) Women get loose after childbirth after a short time, but with true nutrition, exercise, self-care. It returns to completely normal. BUT, most women, will never realize this as none are truly hardcore healthy. These are probably unicorns.
2) No, the vagina does tear and there is always some kind of reduction of tightness. Good practices only minimize the amount of damage / reduction in quality of sex.[/QUOTE]To give you an honest answer we would need to know another part of the equation. How big or small are you?
Joking aside. I have had experienced some of the tightest pussy from girls with 3 kids. Some of the loosest from non mothers. I have had great sex from some of the wettest but loose ones, they felt like slip and slide inside. Some of the tightest and sensual were thick girls that just loved to screw and knew how to caress and hold me while in the moment.
They come in all forms. As the old saying goes: it isn't the horse so much as it is up to the jockey to create the performance!
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2162633]You raise a very valid point. Unfortunately, most mongerers on a 2-week sex vacation to the Philippines are unlikely to come into contact with "college-educated, smart, ambitious women who are likely to place their husbands first in their interior hierarchies of relationship". They only meet hookers. This is a hooker discussion board.
I hope you don't mind my asking, but since you are obviously in a "stable, long-lasting relationship" which is "productive and more satisfying", what are you actually doing on a hooker discussion board?[/QUOTE]Perhaps, the marriage is stable and long lasting because there is no divorce in the Philippines. Technically, the Philippine divorce rate is zero because "divorce" does not exist here. The marriage may be productive because it produced offspring and a source of income for the Filipina and her relatives. It is satisfying for the monger because he still gets his fix of young flesh by sneaking off to fuck bar girls in AC.
None of these things means that it is a happy marriage. Unless it is an open marriage and the wife is fucking younger men, it is hardly a satisfying situation for the wife. If the wife is unaware and disapproves of the husband fucking younger women, the marriage is very unstable because there is the risk of things going bad when she finds out about his mongering. In the Philippines, adultery is punishable with a 7-year jail term, so that is how unstable and unsatisfying it can get for a cheating husband.
Anyway, philandering seems to work for Trump, as his wife remains in the marriage so it works for some people. Many people consider a marriage successful as long as it does not end in a divorce. Others would argue that is a very low bar.
[QUOTE=DCups;2162639]Anyone who brings his Eastern wife to a Western continent to live is a damn fool. Go to her country and marry her and you will likely be seen as a hero but to bring her to your country is downright stupid. She will quickly pick up all of the bad habits of her new Western.[/QUOTE]Yes, but she will also see how you stand in your home country. When she sees her Western husband is every bit the alpha male (and even more!) at his home as he is when consorting with hookers in Angeles City, she will quickly pick up all your good habits, and a happy ending is in store for you.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2162633]You raise a very valid point. Unfortunately, most mongerers on a 2-week sex vacation to the Philippines are unlikely to come into contact with "college-educated, smart, ambitious women who are likely to place their husbands first in their interior hierarchies of relationship". They only meet hookers. This is a hooker discussion board.
I hope you don't mind my asking, but since you are obviously in a "stable, long-lasting relationship" which is "productive and more satisfying", what are you actually doing on a hooker discussion board?[/QUOTE]I don't mind your asking, but you likely won't be totally satisfied with my answer. I joined this board years and years ago; long before I came here during which time I was in a business that required me to spend several months a year in Asia and Africa. I stay on the board, and read it because I enjoy some of the back and forth, and some of the takes on local culture espoused by some of the posters. Also, I may be in a relationship, but I'm not an angel. I don't write much about my non-angelic experiences because I think others on this and other forums have already said everything that can be said.
GE.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2162782]Perhaps, the marriage is stable and long lasting because there is no divorce in the Philippines. Technically, the Philippine divorce rate is zero because "divorce" does not exist here. The marriage may be productive because it produced offspring and a source of income for the Filipina and her relatives. It is satisfying for the monger because he still gets his fix of young flesh by sneaking off to fuck bar girls in AC.
None of these things means that it is a happy marriage. Unless it is an open marriage and the wife is fucking younger men, it is hardly a satisfying situation for the wife. If the wife is unaware and disapproves of the husband fucking younger women, the marriage is very unstable because there is the risk of things going bad when she finds out about his mongering. In the Philippines, adultery is punishable with a 7-year jail term, so that is how unstable and unsatisfying it can get for a cheating husband.
Anyway, philandering seems to work for Trump, as his wife remains in the marriage so it works for some people. Many people consider a marriage successful as long as it does not end in a divorce. Others would argue that is a very low bar.[/QUOTE]Also I want to add, that if a westerner hasn't caught his piany wife cheating on him, it doesn't automatically mean, that she doesn't do that.
Someone on the Forum mentioned, that he fucked married pinay, whose husband gave her GPS tracking device, to trace her location, while he is away on business. And still it didn't stop her to get laid with a random stranger. LOL.
A friend of mine after almost 4 years of successful marriage with god fearing pinay from province, accidentally found her correspondence with Pinoy, who was about to return to Philippines from his job overseas. They discussed their upcoming appointment details. She insisted him to use condom, since she said, she is going to be fertile on that certain day, but he opposed, he will fuck her bareback anyway, and finally she agreed.
It happens all the time in Philippines. Pinays are so fearless in this regard, especially when they deal with poriners, because they think, they always can get away with it. They don't care too much about possible consequences.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2162633]
I hope you don't mind my asking, but since you are obviously in a "stable, long-lasting relationship" which is "productive and more satisfying", what are you actually doing on a hooker discussion board?[/QUOTE]I think we all know there are board members who are in a serious relationship and do some mongering on the side. Nothing new here. And nothing wrong with that.