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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1240715]Yeah, I've got the same conundrum. Was all ready to arrange a 3sum with these lovelies but something just doesn't feel right.
Can't quite put my finger on it![/QUOTE]Hoi! Hilarious but Major Major scary. Where's Josephine when we need her? LMAO. :D
[QUOTE=SimonHeSays;1240509]I was chatting up a few of the women. Seem very eager to meet. Do they actually follow through? I also notice that a few reply at 4am their time. I'm guessing they are working girls?[/QUOTE]It is big business for Internet Cafe in Phi. Almost all of them are open 24 hours even in smaller places. Most of these girls do not have a regular job and are easily bored. So if they find a chatting man who is interested, they will go to internet cafe at all times of the night if it is walking distance from their home. They all know what time it is in western countries. Few have PC in their home which is bought from the money previous foreigner bf gave them.
If the girl is in Manila, AC or Cebu chatting early in the morning may suggest they are bargirls.
If you make the trip closer to their home ofcourse they will meet them. But going to meet them draws her relatives who come to meet you as well. I like to meet them away from their home area so that they stay with me in my hotel. None have refused to have sex with me. Ofcourse in order for her to come and meet you, you need send her money for travel expenses. I send just enough money for travel and promise to take care of her after meeting.
Only in one case after I sent money the girl did not show up. Her excuse was she is on mens. Mens or not if the girl does not show up I refuse to give them a seond chance. Nowadays I buy the airline ticket and just send her little money for the expenses. In case of ferry travel I have no choice but to send enough money for one way ferry ticket + some extra for food.
The girls will know that if they show up they will get presents as well as some more money.
Sammon? You buy airline tickets? It cheaper to just pay a bar fine. No wonder I hear about bar girls flying to Manila I always think wow where they getting money like that to fly.
Still to each thier own I like to pay 500-1000 for pussy.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1240955]You buy airline tickets?[/QUOTE]I have done the same. Cebu Pacific tickets are really cheap, and sometimes its worth it to bring in a relatively unspoiled girl without attitude from the provinces. They can't turn the tickets into cash, so that risk is removed. But its just MHO.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1240955]Sammon? You buy airline tickets? It cheaper to just pay a bar fine. No wonder I hear about bar girls flying to Manila I always think wow where they getting money like that to fly.
Still to each thier own I like to pay 500-1000 for pussy.[/QUOTE]None of them are bargirls. They are from the provinces. There is a world of difference being with a bargirl and being with province girls. Nowadays I prefer normal girls to stay with me so much so that I completely avoid going to AC. Even when I am in Manila I have couple of normal girls who stay with me. Sometimes after dinner I tell them I need to do some work on the internet and will be back in a couple of hours. During that time I check out MBC and also EDSA. It is fun to have a couple of drinks and check out. Only one time I met this real pretty girl in MBC and took her to Amazonia upstairs and had fun for couple of hours. She was really good but tried to go through my pant pockets when I was in the shower. I could see her through the bathroom door. Bathrooms are very small there. Immediately I came out and she did not have enough time to steal. We were ready to leave anyway. Since I carry only enough local peso for the night there was nothing of value she could get at. Imagine if I had taken her LT? Although most of my valuables are locked up in safe deposit box there would be something of value in the room.
Like David said airfares are cheaper courtesy of Cebu Pacific. If the girl stays with you atleast 4-5 nights it is cheaper than paying a bargirl / night. Besides you get sex anytime you want.
Hi guys here is one for a chuckle.
Jewel Cruz: Honest for you babe I am student before 2nd year college science computer but I'm stop because I don't have suport my study thats why I'm stop my mother hard working before in my province I have 1brother but he died 1years ago and my father he died 2year ago,
JJ: wow bad lluck.
JJ: so what is your job now.
Jewel Cruz: I have a part time working before sale lady to suport my self and my mother but I'm so sad because the company close thats why I don't have working and still searching
JJ: Good luck.
JJ: I am sure you can do it.
Jewel Cruz: yeah and I keep promise for me I never give up because I kniow my self I have a searching a good work for me.
I love fucking with these girls, I don't lie, that would be wrong I test them!
PP
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder; 1241028]Hi guys here is one for a chuckle.
Jewel Cruz: Honest for you babe I am student before 2nd year college science computer but I'm stop because I don't have suport my study thats why I'm stop my mother hard working before in my province I have 1brother but he died 1years ago and my father he died 2year ago, [SNIP]
Jewel Cruz: I have a part time working before sale lady to suport my self and my mother but I'm so sad because the company close thats why I don't have working and still searching [SNIP]
Jewel Cruz: yeah and I keep promise for me I never give up because I kniow my self I have a searching a good work for me.
I love fucking with these girls, I don't lie, that would be wrong I test them![/QUOTE]So whats the problem? She sounds like a normal woman in the Philippines. Her description sounds very plausible. Close family members dying younger or being severely injured from traffic or work related accidents are common. Loss of job or failure to find work is a real issue in the Philippines, for every job opening there are 20+ candidates hoping to get the job. From what you posted she did not come right out and ask for money or support and you did not catch her in a lie so why the negative attitude towards her?
It's posts such as this one and from guys who visit the Philippines and proudly proclaim on the board they "had four freebies in five nights" (and give the girls no money) that are definitely "cringe worthy" as coined by another senior member.
If you chat with a woman in the Philippines and she tells you she has no job, no money to continue her studies, her dad and brother died and this gives you a chuckle, then you better take a step back and look at yourself in the mirror. If you know for a fact she is a liar or tries to ask you for money the first time you chat then the situation is different.
I have been using the Asian dating websites since 2002 and have only encountered a few dozen or so hardcore gold digger scammers. It's not unusual after several weeks of getting to know each other on ym that some women will ask for help if a sudden emergency comes up or tuition is due. It's normal for a woman to ask for help from close family members in the Philippines and if she asks you for money she feels either she has no choice or feels close enough to you to reveal her situation. I do however as a hard rule decline any such request for money before meeting.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1241020]None of them are bargirls. They are from the provinces. There is a world of difference being with a bargirl and being with province girls. Nowadays I prefer normal girls to stay with me so much so that I completely avoid going to AC. Even when I am in Manila I have couple of normal girls who stay with me. Sometimes after dinner I tell them I need to do some work on the internet and will be back in a couple of hours. During that time I check out MBC and also EDSA. It is fun to have a couple of drinks and check out. Only one time I met this real pretty girl in MBC and took her to Amazonia upstairs and had fun for couple of hours. She was really good but tried to go through my pant pockets when I was in the shower. I could see her through the bathroom door. Bathrooms are very small there. Immediately I came out and she did not have enough time to steal. We were ready to leave anyway. Since I carry only enough local peso for the night there was nothing of value she could get at. Imagine if I had taken her LT? Although most of my valuables are locked up in safe deposit box there would be something of value in the room.
Like David said airfares are cheaper courtesy of Cebu Pacific. If the girl stays with you atleast 4-5 nights it is cheaper than paying a bargirl / night. Besides you get sex anytime you want.[/QUOTE]My knowledge of "province girls" or any that are on line is most are just freelancers like the MBC girls, to be able to pay 20 peso an hour to be online some one is paying that girl, so yes she may not be getting as many clients as as girl in the city but she is a P4P, so you are just as likely to meet a bad apple on line. The few "good to marry ones" I have known about are virgins or near virgins and say they are not that type of girl.
Lying to them about what you are doing is not a good idea as the longer you keep seeing them the more they hope you will marry them. Locals families do get involved is such matters.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1241070]My knowledge of "province girls" or any that are on line is most are just freelancers like the MBC girls, to be able to pay 20 peso an hour to be online some one is paying that girl, so yes she may not be getting as many clients as as girl in the city but she is a P4P, so you are just as likely to meet a bad apple on line. The few "good to marry ones" I have known about are virgins or near virgins and say they are not that type of girl.[/QUOTE]I'm by no means a PI expert so I would like to ask: To one who has the means to travel to PI and was looking to get married and settle down why would a province girl be considered "good to marry?" Aren't these the least educated people in the country? I guess it would not matter if one's criteria for choosing a mate did not consider the intelligence of their future spouse.
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker; 1238831]. Snip great post.
I hope I did not bore you guys with my long story. I would love to post photos but do not want to make any problems for her. I plan to go back to Phil in June and can't wait![/QUOTE]Are you kidding, that was the best f# read on here in some time. Someone up there likes you.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1241136]I'm by no means a PI expert so I would like to ask: To one who has the means to travel to PI and was looking to get married and settle down why would a province girl be considered "good to marry?" Aren't these the least educated people in the country? I guess it would not matter if one's criteria for choosing a mate did not consider the intelligence of their future spouse.[/QUOTE]Education is not linked to intelligence, and alot of province girls looking to marry are educated, that is why they can pay to get online, hence they are less likely to freelance and more likely want to marry, so meeting girls like that and lying to them just to get sex is pretty low. Not to mention could be dangerous to your health if the family find out about the lies.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1241154]Education is not linked to intelligence, and alot of province girls looking to marry are educated, that is why they can pay to get online, hence they are less likely to freelance and more likely want to marry, so meeting girls like that and lying to them just to get sex is pretty low. Not to mention could be dangerous to your health if the family find out about the lies.[/QUOTE]I think you are mixing up a few different concepts here Frenzy (with all due respect).
Being able to afford to go online doesn't necessarily correlate with being educated or being intelligent. No doubt there are many uneducated and quite dopey girls with big boobs in AC, for example, who have heaps of barfine cash.
Many provincial girls are no doubt "intelligent" but are not in any sense "educated" in the sense of being schooled. They lack opportunity, much as my parents' generation did in Australia during the war and post-war. My parents were not "educated" but they sure were smart, diligent and, ultimately, successful through hard work and innate intelligence. It might be feasible to find a provincial girl like this.
To answer Mr E: It all comes down to what criteria that you are using to choose a long-term partner (wife?) and whether intelligence linked with education are factors.
If you want a genuine soul mate who can match wits with you, discuss world politics or world geography, question you about the latest book you are reading, hold an analytical discussion with you about the merits of a recent film that you both saw, be a worthy hostess at a dinner party you might hold for friends, be a bright and witty companion for you at a friend's dinner party, then maybe a [B]provincial girl[/B] Is not for you.
If you can disregard her love for telenovelas, mindless game shows on afternoon or evening TV, texting, always calling someone in her family and just want her for her genuine warmth and caring towards you and, of course, a worthy lover in the bed, then maybe there is a [B]provincial[/B] Girl waiting for you.
There are of course, all manner of combinations in between, and I know many educated girls who fit the second category that I described above, but I belive my broad generalization is not far off the mark.
Plan to visit cebu soon and got already tons of contacts of cebu girls from several sites. Here are two of them. Enjoy it.
As I usually do, I agree with RK's articulate and wholly accurate assessment of the general types of relationships associated with the geographical origins of potential partners. However, I think it's also important to be realistic about the types of relationships that are possible here (in general) , and it's equally important for those coming here for the first time to develop realistic expectaions about the range of feasible options. RK's post intimates a deep understanding of the country, which is partially a product of his having lived here for many years (coupled with intelligence and analytical capability) , and that breadth of knowledge is not typically available to a newcomer.
My direct experience and observations accumulated over a shorter period than that of RK's suggest that all relationships are ultimately conditioned partially by some combination of the culture, education and raw intelligence of both parties, and are ultimately circumscribed by these factors as well. Thus, it's highly unlikely that any well educated, reasonably intelligent Westerner will find someone who shares his knowledge of books, art, music, theater, or other aspects of the corpus of Western culture. Universities here do an extremely poor job of educating their students in what we would define as the "liberal arts." Outside of perhaps the top four or give universities in the country, intellectual inquisitiveness, analytic capablity and independent thought are simply not highly valued by a culture that stresses conformity, anonymity and passivity. I'm not arguing that Filipinas cannot be as intelligent as anyone from the West, but the opportunities to refine, direct and nurture intelligence are far more limited here.
What you will find, if you're lucky, are intelligent, warm, compassionate women who are willing to learn from you, and willing to teach you about the attributes of Philippine culture that are either unknown, or lost in the mists of history in the West: the totality of caring for another; the love of family; the genorosity of spirit; the ability to cope successfully with adversity without succombing to it are hallmarks of a society that many of us feel more than compensates for the deficits mentioned above. Thus, the lady's contribution to the relationship will be equal to or greater than the man's, but qualitatively different. I would argue that these qualities can be found in women from all over the country, including the major metropolitan areas, but are more likely to be found in provincial women who have not developed the thin but hard patina of ersatz sophistication which is often no more than an inexpert mimicing of Western behavior.
GE
Having sponsored few girls, education in Phi is not the same as western countries. It is more like get a degree whether you studied or not. Sometimes I test these girls when they are with me. One girl took a degree course in computers. She could not even do a resume on MSW. But she has a degree. She did admit that computers in her school are not advanced or something like that.
Another important factor is the girl is not focused in studying and learning. Other girls I sponsored have studied in areas like HRM and accounting and know their subject.
Electricity is not constant for them to study at night. If there is a storm no electricity for more than a few days.
Now the question of marrying? If you want a nice girl to be your wife there are many. Will they make a perfect hostess and hold intelligent conversation in a party with your friends? Hard to say. Having said that many people here in USA are happily married to Phi girls. They all adopt to western ways and learn the process sooner or later. At the same time you need to be patient. There will always be cultural and point of view difference.
Older girls in big cities are educated and hold good jobs but most of them already have children. Province girls tend to be naieve and pleasant. Will they be change once they arrive in your country? It is a open question.