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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1825463]What do you think would happen if each US State can independently set their "own" currency rates and decide on "their" economy without regard to the other States?[/QUOTE]Errr that's a part of the euro's problem now! A single currency without a solid, single monetary policy and economy! You want to know what happens? Then look at Europe now LOLOLOL! The United States is one nation while the Euro Zone is still a collection of separate countries trying to act like a single entity. And failing miserably at it at that! Look at how the whole refugee crisis is being "managed", if you can call it that. Europe will never be "one" as there are just too many geopolitical divisions that won't allow that to ever happen. Mark my words.

Germany has been the biggest beneficiary of a weak Euro. Most economists are in agreement on this. Economists and strategists from various investment banks have estimated that German GDP received a boost of $25 to $50 billion a year due to being in the weak euro.

While Germany is not as imbalanced as China, which has only 40% or less of its GDP from consumption, Germany (54%) is still far below the US (68%) in terms of percent of GDP from consumption. It is a export driven economy. Weak local currency is very beneficial to export growth. During the Greek and Euro financial crisis, many German citizens were clamoring to kick out Greece and if needed all the PIGS but few serious German economists entertained that idea; leaving euro would have led to a massive appreciation of the the mark, and it kills their exports.

Swiss, a similar economy to the Germans, have independent currency. They desperately needed a weak currency to keep their exports up, so for a long time, they pegged to the euro, until they could not do so anymore, and removed the peg last year beginning and that was a traumatic event for both euro and Swiss franc, not to mention Swiss exports in the last year.

In fact, economists estimated Germany benefited more than $150 billion due to the lower interest expenses since the euro crisis broke out.

Wiedmann and his cohorts may make comments for public consumption, and to aid Merkel on the politics side, but in the end, they went along with Draghi as opposed to leaving euro. It is not out of altruism, and not because of feeling solidarity with Greece and Spain. Leaving would have been terrible for their GDP at least in the short term.

Every day Germans might feel hot under the collar about euro v mark, and if it is a retiree with fixed income retirement a weak euro is not useful to them, but there is no question that German workers benefited so much from a weak euro. There have been several dozens of articles in FT and wsj over the last few years, not to mention several detailed research pieces from economists and investment strategists.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1825518]Every day Germans might feel hot under the collar about euro v mark, and if it is a retiree with fixed income retirement a weak euro is not useful to them, but there is no question that German workers benefited so much from a weak euro. There have been several dozens of articles in FT and wsj over the last few years, not to mention several detailed research pieces from economists and investment strategists.[/QUOTE]You're absolutely right, but I always look at it from my own selfish perspective hahaha! I as a person who travels a lot want a strong currency in my wallet and not a weak one. Give me a strong dollar any day because that gives me individual buying power around the globe as a world traveler. I empathize with that German retiree on a fixed income who values the buying power of his money. Give me marks!

If you are getting paid in dollars, or have most of your net worth in dollars, this weak euro of last year and half is a boon. We are better off by roughly 20-25% depending on exact times of measurement. If Germany had left euro and gone back to marks, their currency would have been stronger and our dollars would go less distance. So, the current situation is good for American tourists and mongers in Germany.

If you are a German getting paid in euro, it would seem you are neutral, but my point is that you are actually better off, because German economy was stronger due to weak euro. If they had left euro and gone back to marks, exports would have been weaker, and some germans would not have had jobs.

If you are a German retiree, and living on a fixed income retirement, you are worse off, because you benefit less from a robust GDP because your income is fixed. But weak local currency makes your purchasing power less and inflation higher depending on what it is you are buying (imported stuff is obviously more expensive). At least the FKK prices stayed stable, for them.

BTW, in the last few weeks, renminbi is slowly depreciating due to China policies. Chinese tourists globally are already slowing down. I wonder if it is showing up at Oase. This is slow season now, but this has got to be worrying for mr Mauro. Not sure how many of his Asian customer base is Chinese as opposed to Japanese or Korean, etc. But in general, most Asian economies are slowing sharply and currencies weakening there (won down to 1200 for a dollar now), I suspect you will see the impact at Oase soon. Perhaps some of those girls will migrate away or move to sharks - always churning, but might see even more of it.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1825526]You're absolutely right, but I always look at it from my own selfish perspective hahaha! I as a person who travels a lot want a strong currency in my wallet and not a weak one. Give me a strong dollar any day because that gives me individual buying power around the globe as a world traveler. I empathize with that German retiree on a fixed income who values the buying power of his money. Give me marks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;1825510]Errr that's a part of the euro's problem now! A single currency without a solid, single monetary policy and economy! You want to know what happens? Then look at Europe now LOLOLOL! The United States is one nation while the Euro Zone is still a collection of separate countries trying to act like a single entity. And failing miserably at it at that! Look at how the whole refugee crisis is being "managed", if you can call it that. Europe will never be "one" as there are just too many geopolitical divisions that won't allow that to ever happen. Mark my words.[/QUOTE]This is it. There difference is US is a country although regions are separated into states. Compared to the Euro currency which countries have adapted. One of the purpose of the common currency was due to the fluctuating exchange rate for trade. Also, the countries had to meet criteria for the them to be included in the Euro currency. As Greece met the criteria, but by falsifying their books by doing a currency swap with Goldman Sachs. With the crisis, they borrowed so much from Germany and France with very high interest. Although, the funds were supposed to bring their economy up, it actually ends up going back the German banks. So basically, the Germans see their money going to Greece, but in actuality it's going the German banks.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1825707]This is it. There difference is US is a country although regions are separated into states. Compared to the Euro currency which countries have adapted. One of the purpose of the common currency was due to the fluctuating exchange rate for trade. Also, the countries had to meet criteria for the them to be included in the Euro currency. As Greece met the criteria, but by falsifying their books by doing a currency swap with Goldman Sachs. With the crisis, they borrowed so much from Germany and France with very high interest. Although, the funds were supposed to bring their economy up, it actually ends up going back the German banks. So basically, the Germans see their money going to Greece, but in actuality it's going the German banks.[/QUOTE]The biggest problem with the Euro is that you can't have countries with economies as different of Germany and Greece running the same interest rate. If Greece (or any other EZ member except Germany) could have dropped its interest rate to devalue their currency would have helped out their economy massively.

The Eurozone is a halfway house between separate countries and the United States of Europe. The problem is the vast majority of the European population don't want to be part of the USE (or EUSSR) but that won't stop the politicians. To quote Jean-Claude Juncker, "When it becomes serious, you have to lie".

[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1825746]The biggest problem with the Euro is that you can't have countries with economies as different of Germany and Greece running the same interest rate. If Greece (or any other EZ member except Germany) could have dropped its interest rate to devalue their currency would have helped out their economy massively.

The Eurozone is a halfway house between separate countries and the United States of Europe. The problem is the vast majority of the European population don't want to be part of the USE (or EUSSR) but that won't stop the politicians. To quote Jean-Claude Juncker, "When it becomes serious, you have to lie".[/QUOTE]Stronger economy countries with prompt mentality, similar moral value and society organization should unite. Difference in culture can overcome, but not mentality or organization and related values.

Just uniting countries based on region has disaster affect.

Let see how it will go with EU experiments and now they going to mix that with people from war zone, where conflict has been going on many many centuries. Maybe there will be some positive affect. Like good fast food restaurants.

Either way, for pro mongers, it is all good to see diversity of race in German FKK in near future!

There was pretty good article in WSJ yesterday about the impact of Removal of currency peg in Switzerland. If you have access, it is a good read.

It has been one year since they removed the peg and let their currency float / appreciate. So far what they have seen -.

Reduction in GDP.

Reduction in exports.

Reduction of tourism because prices are higher for tourists from abroad.

Relocation of jobs abroad. Some companies shutting plants in Switzerland and relocating to Eastern Europe locations, looking for cheaper labor.

Some layoffs.

Pay freezes and payouts are common.

Several company owners and managers were quoted as saying they will bring pay up back to prior levels if franc came down in value to prior levels.

I suspect if you are a Swiss retiree and want to monger in Germany, your life is good. If you are a younger, Swiss worker then your life is worse than before (not for everyone of course, but on average).

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1825463]Absolutely wrong. The economic crisis would have wiped out the economy of many of the smaller European countries already and would have reducied the bigger economies to insignificance on the global scale too.

What do you think would happen if each US State can independently set their "own" currency rates and decide on "their" economy without regard to the other States?[/QUOTE]That's Bullshit! If the European countries would have kept their own currencies along with the appropriate interest rates, there would never have been any financial or economic crisis. If Germany had kept the Mark and the Bundesbank had kept the interest rates up where they belonged, then Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac would never have been able to create the US housing bubble, because interest rates in the US would have stayed up too. And if there were appropriate interest rates, the Chinese could not have created their current housing bubble, which I expect to implode this year.

Cane & Kane are quite right with their assessments:

[QUOTE=TheCane;1825510]Errr that's a part of the euro's problem now! A single currency without a solid, single monetary policy and economy! You want to know what happens? Then look at Europe now LOLOLOL! The United States is one nation while the Euro Zone is still a collection of separate countries trying to act like a single entity. And failing miserably at it at that! Look at how the whole refugee crisis is being "managed", if you can call it that. Europe will never be "one" as there are just too many geopolitical divisions that won't allow that to ever happen. Mark my words.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1825746]The biggest problem with the Euro is that you can't have countries with economies as different of Germany and Greece running the same interest rate. If Greece (or any other EZ member except Germany) could have dropped its interest rate to devalue their currency would have helped out their economy massively.

The Eurozone is a halfway house between separate countries and the United States of Europe. The problem is the vast majority of the European population don't want to be part of the USE (or EUSSR) but that won't stop the politicians. To quote Jean-Claude Juncker, "When it becomes serious, you have to lie".[/QUOTE]I'm especially fond of Kane's correct assessment regarding the "EUSSR". That's right on point and describes what they are planning to create. The EU has no similarity whatsoever with the United States of America, instead it's pretty much build up like a so-called "council democracy", just like the USSR had been. The EU is about as democratic as the USSR was.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1825518]Germany has been the biggest beneficiary of a weak Euro. Most economists are in agreement on this.

Swiss, a similar economy to the Germans, have independent currency. They desperately needed a weak currency to keep their exports up,

Every day Germans might feel hot under the collar about euro v mark, and if it is a retiree with fixed income retirement a weak euro is not useful to them, but there is no question that German workers benefited so much from a weak euro. There have been several dozens of articles in FT and wsj over the last few years, not to mention several detailed research pieces from economists and investment strategists.[/QUOTE]More Bullshit! What gives you the idea that a weak currency would be good for the economy? The strongest economy in Germany in the past 100 years was in the 50s when there was also the strongest time of the D-Mark. The Swiss even have a strong currency for much longer and are still one of the wealthiest people in the world.

No German worker ever benefitted from a weak Euro. The cost of living (especially gasoline and heating oil) rose much faster than any raise of income or pensions. People who saved their money get ripped off by obscenely low interest rates for over 15 years by now. Almost everything costs as much in Euro as it used to cost in D-Mark, if not even more.

Do you really expect to get real information from banker's propaganda magazines like FT or WSJ? And since when is research from so-called 'economists' good for anything? Did any of them predict the financial crisis of 2008? Did they warn about the Japanese crash of the early 90's? What did they say in early October 1929? So forget about them! Just brace yourself for this year's coming financial and economic crash, propably initiated by the implosion of the Chinese housing bubble.

Use your money to enjoy mongering, as long as you still have it.

So SL, I assume you're planning to vote Leave?

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Use your money to enjoy mongering, as long as you still have it.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more.

HB.

I am really desperate. So tired of shaved ladies. The only place in Berlin I have found hairy pussy is at a sexkino in Mierendorfplatz. She is above 50 years old. I guess these treasures are non-available in the former Habsburg and Kingdom of Prussia. Any info leading me to Bush will be rewarded with kind words and beautiful poetry. Any FFK all around the country is of huge interest.

Thanks.

Does it have to be FKK? Try ladies. De There you can set a filter to unshaved: "behaart" or "stark behaart".

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1827610]Does it have to be FKK? Try ladies. De There you can set a filter to unshaved: "behaart" or "stark behaart".

HB.[/QUOTE]Thank you Sir!

Z.

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1827597]I am really desperate. So tired of shaved ladies. The only place in Berlin I have found hairy pussy is at a sexkino in Mierendorfplatz. She is above 50 years old. I guess these treasures are non-available in the former Habsburg and Kingdom of Prussia. Any info leading me to Bush will be rewarded with kind words and beautiful poetry. Any FFK all around the country is of huge interest.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]It is not clean to have pubic hair in FKK. So it make sense girls shave them. Well it is too bad that your fetish is pussy hair. In Japan, there are plenty of pussy hair girls. I do not like it though.