Been meaning to ask this question
How early is too early to make contact when you're on their turf? I first used seeking years ago to meet girls before a pleasure trip outside of my city. I started one month out and pretty much had a lineup in a couple weeks so I decided to see how it worked locally. Had never considered using it locally, don't know why, just didn't. Found 2 amazing girls, great chemistry with both but made the rookie mistake of not closing the deal even though we were at my house at the end of the first meeting. Mutually agreed to see both (separately) after my trip, including ppm amounts, and upon my return both ghosted me. It occurred to me that I had basically given them both a couple weeks to do better than me which they apparently did.
Like Steve, I get excited and start searching several weeks, sometimes months, before the date of travel. I'll buy an account two months out, reasoning that pros will have no patience for something that far out and they'll be turned off immediately when I tell them I'm two months out (I don't use seeking for pros, at most semi pros, but prefer legit girls next door). I also figure the targets are on the fence at best but have probably done this once or twice and understand there needs to be some kind of connection other than money so a convo over several weeks to build that connection works in both of our favors. She's less likely to flake if she's got time invested other than what, where, when, and how much.
So what's too early / what's ideal? I've got a paid account on another sugar site appropriate to my destination but has been dead for a couple weeks. It exploded recently by simplying following up with girls that had replied with something basic to my original ice breaker. As I was hoping, the time wasters and pros didn't give me the time of day after I told them I was more than a month out. I actually had about 3 hrs worth of back and forth with another one who doesn't seem to be fazed at all that her time would be rewarded several weeks in the future. This is exactly the kind of girl I'm looking for, she's real and asks real get to know you questions, never mentioned compensation once, and answers my questions toughtfully with detail). At some point it's my job to bring up the compensation part and I will before she loses interest but knowing she's willing to display some amount of effort goes a long way in my book.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2869165]Had a friend asking about Baires (what the girls call it) Seeking scene and dug up this report from two years back. It's a fun read and some pretty good advice at the end. Hope it's useful / fun for one or more of you.
Buenos Aires is pretty well known to be not great for P4 P. Last time I was there I was exclusively with a Seeking Girl named Valentina and it was marvelous. So I went purely the Seeking route this time as well.
It actually can be a bit tricky the way I play it because I'm not the kinda guy who sets up redundant dates and such. I really try to be honest with the girls, including that I am only in town a couple days (usually break this news later) and so the logistics can be hard to ensure you don't end up with a date with Mr Hand. (Never have fwiw).
I started 6 weeks out. Not because that is a good idea but just because I always get excited and start browsing and one thing leads to another. I had probably 5-6 girls on pretty active chat up until about two weeks before, but let some of those fade as I focused in on two girls Becca and Lucia.
Both of these girls have GREAT English and both really fun to chat with. In the end Lucia edged out Becca by just being a bit more engaged. I think I stopped being active with Becca a few days before the trip and she was not actively courting me.
Once in town, Lucia was a bit tough to pin down on date time that evening. Got a bit worried and in fact pinged Becca that first day thinking Lucia was bagging. Becca was really nice about me springing a same day date on her but said she couldn't that first night but she could night two, so I kept this warm. I wasn't in a panic, having just banged 7 girls in Colombia (see Medellin thread soon) but I would lament an empty night nonetheless.
In the end, Lucia came through and turned out to be an amazing pick. From her pictures you could see that she was very pretty and she'the sent some unfiltered shots. Like a solid 8. But when we met at the restaurant I about dropped a load on the floor. A 10 face for me no lie. And her bod turned out to be a 9 for sure. Home run in the optics dept.
Dinner and a walk around Puerto Madero were amazing. So easy and comfortable. Two hours completely flew by! Some light kissing as the Uber arrives. Back in the room it was an OK experience but nothing to write home about. She is super beautiful but either awkward or pro trying to get straight to fucking with no BJ and really not too much effort when I went soft. 10 face 9 body and 5 in the bed. Boo a little disappointed in the end because otherwise this girl is a rockstar. But overall had a great night despite the lame sex!
We planned to meetup again the next night but I was a bit lukewarm. And she was pretty difficult about staying in touch. It wasn't clear whether we were on or off. And this was a bit of a theme with her once in town.
So about 2 Pm or so I ping Becca because Lucia is unsure. But Becca says family matters came up and she can't. At four I send Lucia a message that I want to meet her no matter what time and I can tell she's read it. No response so now onto plan see! Can't wait forever.
I start spamming all the girls I had moved to WhatApp chat but let fizzle. Probably 5-7 girls. Plus I start hitting new Seeking girls with "I going out to a nice dinner tonight. Join me?" (I've used this before with success) and get 3 or 4 convos started.
But as luck would have it one of my WhatsApp girls comes back and says she'the love too. She was like number five on my list so clearly keeping a deep bench is a key strategic move. So now it's on with Meli. Woo hoo! Really quite a coup to get an 8 o'clock date at 4 o'clock! Wow. Stoked.
It turns out Meli could use a new photographer. Because she's a solid 8 with amazing natural firm the or DD cups. Beautiful face and bubbly and fun at dinner.
I feel a little bad but I use the exact same playbook as the prior night, because making reservations over the phone in Spanish is not my forte. So same restaurant leading to same walk and same Uber pickup. Dinner is quite different though because she doesn't speak a lick of English. We laugh a ton using Google translate. And her trying to say English words is nothing short of comedic. She is sooooo bad. Just literally cannot pronounce the English sounds. So fun. So much laughter and clear chemistry.
(Lucia hits me up midway through but I say I am out with colleagues.).
In the bedroom it's night and day. This girl loves to kiss, great BJ and no pillow-princess. She is very ready to rumble, submissive, and passionate.
The highlight is that I am hard to finish.
How could that be a highlight? Well after a ton of fucking I have to go pee. And when I return (pretty soft) she says "so what do you want to do". I think this is her saying "you tired me out and you didn't cum so maybe I should just go?" I have seen this once or twice. But I just say "um continuar?
Apparently that wasn't what she was saying at all! She was just asking what's my pleasure! So she gets me going and mounts up BAREBACK. Wow. She feels fucking amazing and seems to enjoy it as much as I do.
So we do some amazing fucking. LOL. Doggie, the Steve, and mish in pretty short order. Making out in mish is as usual the ticket (not all girls like this) and I pull out to shoot a few shots on her tummy which she smiles a giant smile at. Wow. That was pretty epic.
Side note: Another Seeking bareback girl!
So Buenos Aires had several great lessons to be learned. Or perhaps just reinforced:
Seeking still rocks in countries where P4 P is poor.
Starting 6 weeks out, while not recommended, has worked great several times so maybe it's not bad.
Aggressive last minute opener "I'm going out you coming" def has super high engagement rate.
Always keep the girls warm without being disingenuous. You may need them!
Girls will def see you even if they know it's only a night or two.
An 8 with a 9 performance beats a 10 with a 5 performance any day.
All in all a great time for just a two day quickie.[/QUOTE]
Stockholm Experience last summer
So in summer 2022 I was visiting a male friend in Stockholm for a few weeks. Since prostitution is ilegal there, punishing the customer, I was expecting a very dry season. But I tried with seeking.
Most women would just ignore my messages (I look middle eastern, early 30's, in shape). Only 1 was answering, she had full lingerie pictures on her profile, really looked like an escort. We moved to whatsapp and I asked her for face pics, she sent me some and she was ok, but I don't know why I didn't like that she was never smiling. Probably crooked teeth.
Just 1 week before arriving I got a message from a 23 yo who just said "Hii do you offer sugar for sex", her pics were pretty bad quality, but she had an amazing body, smile and was the typical tall blonde. So, just because she was the one talking to me first, I decided to go ahead and meet her.
We arranged for 3000 crowns and she went directly to my hotel (I booked a one night hotel, because I was staying at my friend's place). And, she was amazing, tall, we fucked twice in the first meeting and she stayed for about 5 hours. She told me she couldn't stay overnight because she still lived with her parents. We met another time that same week and was also pretty good sex! I have trouble cumming and on our last meeting she would just do a long and steady blowjob until she made me cum!
Gushers are even more fun
[QUOTE=Gfefan;2869525]My regular couldn't make it. Went with a new one that I had been chatting up.
Gosh. This one squirts. Every 10/15 strokes she squirtred.
A new experience for me.[/QUOTE]I've had at least a half dozen squirters, and it's different and fun, and squirters are even proud of their squirting. But in my entire life, I also had two gushers. It just gushes out and it feels amazing. One time, I was DATYing one of them while she was sitting on my face, and when she came it felt like someone splashed a bucket of warm water all over my face. I actually choked from all that water (or whatever that is). Same thing when they rode me CG, when they came, it was like a bucket of warm water was dumped onto my cock. The sheets were totally soaked. One time, I was doing one of them while I was standing up, and it just felt like and endless amount of water was going down my legs. Afterwards, in the middle of the night, I went to pee and slipped on the water. The floor was covered with water. That was a thing with these two gushers, it's that they came so much and so often. But LOL, they both told me that BFs eventually get annoyed with their gushing. I can totally see that happening. But I had a great time with these two gushers. They both felt any gal can be a gusher as long as she can feel comfortable with doing it. Here's a weird coincidence: they were both potheads.