Jakarta

[QUOTE=Ceegee; 1140185]So is The Bunker the one on the ground floor, as you walk in the hotel entrance, turn right and it is ahead of you at the end of the corridor on the same level as the entrance? This is the place with imports right?

The Terminal name makes sense now, I wondered why they were talking about terminal 1, terminal 2 to go shag in and giving us boarding passes to get out of the place. [/QUOTE]Mate its been around 5 years since I've been to the bunker but it has the imports and also where you have the sauna spa setup. I must have some kiwi in me as I don't indulge in the imports anymore as I always think afterwards 1. 8 jta = 4 double acts and 4 coronas. Besides I'm very bias when it comes to Sundanese girls.

[QUOTE=Ceegee; 1140185]So is The Bunker the one on the ground floor, as you walk in the hotel entrance, turn right and it is ahead of you at the end of the corridor on the same level as the entrance? This is the place with imports right?

The Terminal name makes sense now, I wondered why they were talking about terminal 1, terminal 2 to go shag in and giving us boarding passes to get out of the place. [/QUOTE]The Bunker located in the same area with the spa & massage place in the basement and they open from noon (1pm) till close (1am) , while The Terminal (2nd floor) starting open at night (9pm) till close (4am). So actually the WLs are the same in both places, they just stay in Bunker during daylight and later when Terminal open they'll (esp. The imports, some locals will still hang around the bunker untill it's close) move to Terminal.

Some insights if I may:

My last time to classic htl, I think, was 2-3yrs ago. Now I'd rather go to malioboro, which's actually owned by the same guy who owns classic (happen to know the guy). And from what I've gathered so far, the arrangement works like this: newer girls (local and imports) will be put to work in malioboro first, and if after a while they're gettin less and less customers (because of their look or have worked for long time whatever.) then they will be sent to classic (which charges less then in malioboro).

So if you're looking for newer (younger) wl-s shaggin actions then better you go to malioboro, but if budget is your issue then go to classic.

Hope that helps

[QUOTE=Jritz; 1139384]- in alexis, which was once a haven for the Russian girls, now literally only have 3 or 4 girls only (and not the beautiful ones mind you) and even then I suspect half of them are columbians. So dissapointing.

- in malioboro (which facilities and charge rates below alexis) , suprisingly they have more Russian girls now than alexis (around 5 to 7 girls) and I. M. O. Also reasonably more beautiful than alexis. Not only that, they even have more latin girls (around 8 to 10 girls) which also have better qualities than what you'd find in alexis.

I won't even bother to report what I found in V2.

So I was wondering if there's somewhat shifting of power between Russian and latin girls in general, or maybe all those beautiful Russian girls have moved to some other places that I don't know of. Any thoughts or lights in this matter? [/QUOTE]When I was at Alexis with JAD a couple of months ago, there were no latinas. We asked the Mamasan. There were about 8-10 latinas at Malioboro, and, like you, I didn't spot any attractive Russian women at either places. I believe all the Latinas except one were from Colombia. Colombian hookers are everywhere. I've run across them in Singapore, Bangkok, Mexico, Panama, Mexico and Costa Rica. And from what I've read, they're also in the Caribbean, Europe, Hong Kong and Japan. The group at Malioboro were B-Team, although a couple of weeks later I ran across a couple of Colombian hotties at BRIX in Singapore. They told me they were making a circuit, spending time in various Asian countries and working on their college funds. One of them wanted to hang out with me for free for a couple of days, but I didn't have time. That was a new one for me.

[QUOTE=Bigcebu;1140039]Apartments from US$150 a month, motorbike rental for US$ 2, 50 a day, food for a few cents, a beach.[/QUOTE]How much an apartment with conditioned air costs every week?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Bigcebu;1140039]Tons of Russian hookers (actually from Uzbekistan)[/QUOTE]Are they costing more?

[QUOTE=Bigcebu; 1140039]Tons of Russian hookers (actually from Uzbekistan) , black hookers. In Pattaya.

Apartments from US$150 a month, motorbike rental for US$ 2, 50 a day, food for a few cents, a beach.

For a monger holiday. Nothing beats Pattaya. There is no place in the world where you get a package like that.

Yes, it is pretty boring if you keep going there for many years and really everybody makes holiday there, but for a newbie in Asia it is the place to go. [/QUOTE]Go to Pattaya, where you ought to be. Why think of Jakarta. Pataya is your place.

There is no doubt in my mind that if I were on a 2 week vacation, I would choose Pattaya over Indonesia for mongering. It's cheaper and the girls are so much more available. Jakarta is a good place to live or visit on business trips and monger, but to visit somewhere for a week or two on vacation, Pattaya and Angeles City are the places to hit. Jakarta is a bit expensive relative to the other places and isn't really as convenient for pure mongering.

You can get Uzbek chicks in Jakarta for about 1. 8 million for an hour at Malioboro. (although I heard recently that they raised it to 2 million. Not confirmed).1. 8 million is about $200 USD for one hour.

I haven't taken the Russian chicks in Pattaya, but in Bangkok at CM2, they were asking for 4, 000 to 5, 000 baht which is about $130 to $170 USD to go to the hotel room. I would assume they would be a bit cheaper in Pattaya since the Thai girls are cheaper in Pattaya.

Like Malioboro, Sumo, Stadium, Rajamas, Medika, Rasa Sayang and Athena, King Cross is also a subsidiary company of Raja Group.

At King Cross, local girls are available at 300k and 550k. Dancers (all are locals) are available at 1. 100k. A couple weeks ago I went there with a client and found out PRCs are available at 650k. Papasan F told me they will offer Russians at the same price soon.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1140863]There is no doubt in my mind that if I were on a 2 week vacation, I would choose Pattaya over Indonesia for mongering. It's cheaper and the girls are so much more available. Jakarta is a good place to live or visit on business trips and monger, but to visit somewhere for a week or two on vacation, Pattaya and Angeles City are the places to hit. Jakarta is a bit expensive relative to the other places and isn't really as convenient for pure mongering.[/QUOTE]May be sex in Jakarta is funnier? May be are girls more girlfreindly? May be is it easier to find girls for overnight? May be is it easier to find a sweetheart for one week?

What differences between Jakarta and Pattaya?

Thanks

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1140965]May be sex in Jakarta is funnier? May be are girls more girlfreindly? May be is it easier to find girls for overnight? May be is it easier to find a sweetheart for one week?

What differences between Jakarta and Pattaya?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Gosh I thought Smoothy explained the differences rather well?

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1141094]Gosh I thought Smoothy explained the differences rather well?[/QUOTE]Not enough. . Why many people go to Jakarta?

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1140587]How much an apartment with conditioned air costs every week?[/QUOTE]It depends, start at about 400 Baht a day in the Soi Buakao Area.

Oh my, oh my! Foxeshunter is on the prey again with his fricking questions and the goodhearted members of this forum are fooled again. Me and others have warned you. He only asks those kind of questions and has never contributed. Even when I dared him about Jakarta and Lima (Peru) places he told he has visited. I think he only quotes from FR's and post them like his own experience. He only travels in his fantasies!

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1140965]May be sex in Jakarta is funnier?[/QUOTE]Why?

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1140965]May be are girls more girlfreindly?[/QUOTE]No.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1140965]May be is it easier to find girls for overnight?[/QUOTE]It is a million times more easy in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1140965]May be is it easier to find a sweetheart for one week?[/QUOTE]It is far more easy (and far cheaper) in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1140965]What differences between Jakarta and Pattaya?[/QUOTE]- Pattaya is cheaper an less anoying.

- Pattaya has no traffic jams for several hours.

- Pattay is on the beach.

- Pattaya is a tourist destination while most tourists avoid Jakarta.

- Pattaya is a monger destination with tenthousands of girls while Jakarta is just a big city with limited mongering opportunities.

- Thai food is far better than Indonesian food.

For a vacation with mongering I would never go to Jakarta.

Okay. I have heard Malioboro is the best in town and the service and lineups are legendary. So it was with great expectations that I chose to try Maliobor instead of the tried and tested Alexis. I think you can guess where the report is going but here goes. BTW, I might have gone to wrong lounge or missed some step but the following is what happened to me this weekend.

Enter the lobby past friendly security guards and valets and you get a plastic bracelet for your locker. Unlike Alexis with fancy-shmancy waterproof RFID bracelets you got the locker key tucked into the sleeved of your bracelet. Go up one floor to the lockers, put your mobiles and wallet etc in and change into khaki color shorts. Now there are three pools facing giant screens; one of the pools has cold water and the others are bubbling warm. Unlike Alexis where you have couples cooing and washing each other this is sausage-only-territory. Actually there's this flowchart etched to wall suggesting you to take the sauna first (after changing in the locker).then the pools-hit the sowers-go upstairs for massage.

Once you have showered you can go upstairs to the landing where there's another lobby; the ladies there directed me to a lounge that was deserted save one old Indonesian guy who was sipping a beer. Across the wide hall I could see the girls milling about. Then a mamasan approaches me and tells me 380, 000 for room+girl. I was surprised to hear Kartika rates in Malioboro and asked her if this was the Malioboro spa. Now I know zero Bahasa and the Mamasan's English wasn't good either. I ask her "Russia?". She says "No Russia". I ask "Arab? Africa", she says "No Arab. No Africa". I ask "Uzbek? Kazhak?" and she says "Yes. 1.8M rupiah". I saw a 'stani across the hallway and no way I was going to pay this much money for that Borat's daughter-cum-niece. Not even if she won 3rd Best Sex in Mouth Award of Kazhakhstan.

I tried to ask her (in english and pantomime) to show the different levels available like they do in Alexis, like Indonesian local, Indonesian model, Thai / PRC and Thai / PRC model but couldn't get through at all. All she did was show four random Indonesian women tagged at 350, 000 out of the multitudes; I simply wasn't shown any more up close. Also, the Mamasan had this impenetrable, stern aura. Something like that landlady in Kung Fu Hustle. Anyway I chose what I perceived to be the best of the four; a late 20s something called Rosa with a nice bod.

Once we were in the room she was so businesslike, proper decorum and all that. When I tried to inch close during the shower she kinda snapped saying "Later". The shower itself was perfunctory, something like washing your terrier. Then came the "body massage" with oil. Apparently the Libyan crisis and Nuclear-Financial meltdowns have hit the management hard and she was very conservative with the oil. The rubdown was with tits only and nothing like the body-body massages you get everywhere. Once things got too boring I asked her to do the BJ.

The rubber pops out of nowhere and I request her to do a BBBJ; the refusal was flat and stern and she started rolling the rubber on the boner immediately.

I understand if the girl is not comfortable with a BBBJ (the ones that refuse plead "No safe meester. Please meester." and I melt instantly) and always do covered FS if I am punting but this kind of response was a big turn off. I took off the rubber and asked her to do just massage. She silently complied and started a pretty decent massage. Cpl of minutes later she asks me if I am angry and I tell her softly "Girls and service in Alexis much better". This girl started engaging me in small talk, apologized repeatedly and suggested FS a cpl of times but I was kinda bummed off by the whole thing. I tell her "it's ok but I won't be tipping you 'because I took no extras" in a neural tone. Took a lonely shower and walked away while she was still dressing. Met the mamasan at the landing who acknowledged me with a slight nod.

Okay, can someone tell me if I did something wrong? Should I have gone to another floor or said some magic words / secret handshakes? Or was it all just due to poor communication or something else like Sunday is day off or something? Well, I am 29 and OK looking (for my ethnicity.) and I click instantly with people but this experience was a big let down. BTW, damages were only 381, 000 and at least I wasn't ripped off. Not going back to Malioboro unless I have some veterans with me or somebody tells me wherei went wrong.