Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

[QUOTE=XMan;2162692]Many years ago I became interested in Davao based on reports from a member here. I visited, met him, met his partner, met gals, had a fantastic time, been back to Davao four times. And I've been to Philippines countless times.

You might find a thread here called "chat rooms". I requested that based on my own interactions with gals online.

The newer guys searching for a quality GF can learn a lot here too.[/QUOTE]Davao could be counted different planet to the rest of Philippine even to their close neighbor Cebu province.

Thinking and belief about life way out different than others. In chatroom could be for anything but unzip the pant from waist; yah! Need real work out for that.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2162978]I think we all know there are board members who are in a serious relationship and do some mongering on the side. Nothing new here. And nothing wrong with that.[/QUOTE]I'd also argue that those that have met and married "normal" girls from their peer group have lived or at least visited Asia for a considerable time and have more of an Asian than Western mindset.

In Asia it is totally accepted, if not expected, that a man of means will have affairs outside of marriage. If those affairs do not embarrass anyone nor draw excessively on family finances, then no one will object or be offended because they pose no threat to the marital unit. It's the idiots who incorrectly interpreted this as it being ok to play around in the home town or with the in-laws and embarrass their wife and family that come unstuck.

To suggest that I'm going to walk away from decades of marriage and several kids because a bar girl gives good head is a nonsensical to me as suggesting that I would leave to live off Meatlovers pizzas. I enjoy both occasionally but not as a constant part of my regular diet.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2163037]In Asia it is totally accepted, if not expected, that a man of means will have affairs outside of marriage. If those affairs do not embarrass anyone nor draw excessively on family finances, then no one will object or be offended because they pose no threat to the marital unit. It's the idiots who incorrectly interpreted this as it being ok to play around in the home town or with the in-laws and embarrass their wife and family that come unstuck.[/QUOTE]I think, that the key phrase here is "man of means", which automatically means that:

Marriage is a pure business deal between a westerner and a pinay. Essentially he pays her, so that she play a role of good wife and she "accepts" him to fuck other women, because he provides her and her family. Such business deal should be deliberate choice for both him and her. He should understand either, that if his wife married him because of money, she can (and often she does) cheat him in return.

I think, that it is rare exception, when a woman, who sincerely loves her poriner, would have humbly and willingly accepted him to fuck prostitutes. It could be a case, if both spouses are peers, and a wise old woman lets him fuck prostitutes, so that her husband wouldn't find a young mistress. It could be a case, when husband is older, but they live together for decades and to date she is old anyway. It could be a case if she is a swinger, bisexual, etc. But anyway the latter is not a classical model of family.

If pinay is still relatively young, she wouldn't let her poriner to fuck others, unless she is purely after money.

Interesting read in this thread. I met my pinay wife almost 20 years ago while she was working in Hong Kong and then when she moved to Montreal we first met in person. Back then she was able to secure a US Tourist Visa and visited a few times before we ended up getting married.

Nowadays my mongering activities consist of a few trips a year to LOS Algodones and the occasional LBFM encounter while passing thru Manila on my way to Bacolod City. In general I find that if a pinay's family is fucked up then they are also fucked up.

Myself I have it pretty good and love reading these forums. Hard to not have a soft spot for these olive brown skinned hotties.

Hey Guys,

Attached is Michel and she is Filipina. She is currently in Bangalore, India and seems to travel a lot.

I'm planning to meet her. Anyone here has any experience with her?

[QUOTE=Tagalog2016;2163069]I think, that the key phrase here is "man of means", which automatically means that:

Marriage is a pure business deal between a westerner and a pinay. Essentially he pays her, so that she play a role of good wife and she "accepts" him to fuck other women, because he provides her and her family. Such business deal should be deliberate choice for both him and her. He should understand either, that if his wife married him because of money, she can (and often she does) cheat him in return.

I think, that it is rare exception, when a woman, who sincerely loves her poriner, would have humbly and willingly accepted him to fuck prostitutes. It could be a case, if both spouses are peers, and a wise old woman lets him fuck prostitutes, so that her husband wouldn't find a young mistress. It could be a case, when husband is older, but they live together for decades and to date she is old anyway. It could be a case if she is a swinger, bisexual, etc. But anyway the latter is not a classical model of family.

If pinay is still relatively young, she wouldn't let her poriner to fuck others, unless she is purely after money.[/QUOTE]Pinays have no problem cheating faithful hardworking men while they are busy at work providing for them and their lazy relatives. It will be even easier for them to justify cheating a cheater. LOL! For Filipinas, marriage is about creating a legal entitlement to the foreign man's money and the perceived status that comes from staking a legal claim on a walking-ATM.

She will sex her Pinoy lover whenever her walking-ATM goes out to fuck prostitutes, and pretend that she does not smell them on his dick upon his return. This mutual cuckolding can go on for years until one of the parties gets serious with another lover. The Pinay wife may decide she wants rid herself of the old foreign husband because the Pinoy boyfriend is pressuring her, as he wants to move into the house and take ownership of automobiles, businesses, or land.

If the foreign husband becomes serious with his younger mistress or impregnates her, his Pinay wife and in-laws may act to secure their interests by arranging for him to meet his end in a "robbery. " There is no benefit for a foreigner in marrying a Pinay, it only brings dangers and obligations. If he mongers and it annoys his wife or she was planning to rid herself of him anyway after accumulating a certain amount of wealth, she can have him thrown in jail for adultery for 7 years or arrange for the fatal robbery. Old foreigners married to Filipina nurses should be particularly careful about cheating, as nurses can and have used their knowledge, skills, and access to potent drugs give geriatric husbands a farewell cocktail or parting shot.

[QUOTE=Ashok91;2163168]Hey Guys,

Attached is Michel and she is Filipina. She is currently in Bangalore, India and seems to travel a lot.

I'm planning to meet her. Anyone here has any experience with her?[/QUOTE]Looks like a ladyboy. I do not trust anybody who posts pics all doled up. And made up boobs. Philippinas do not have this big boobs. Maybe meet outside first and see.

[QUOTE=Ashok91;2163168]Hey Guys,

Attached is Michel and she is Filipina. She is currently in Bangalore, India and seems to travel a lot.

I'm planning to meet her. Anyone here has any experience with her?[/QUOTE]I agree with Simmer and am not sure if she is pinay either. You ask lots of questions Ashok and never really contribute on the Indian forum where you last 7 'FRs" have been posted but if you meet this 'pinay' do let us know if our thoughts are correct and do a meaningful FR.

[QUOTE=Tagalog2016;2163069]I think, that it is rare exception, when a woman, who sincerely loves her poriner, would have humbly and willingly accepted him to fuck prostitutes. It could be a case, if both spouses are peers, and a wise old woman lets him fuck prostitutes, so that her husband wouldn't find a young mistress. It could be a case, when husband is older, but they live together for decades and to date she is old anyway. It could be a case if she is a swinger, bisexual, etc. But anyway the latter is not a classical model of family.

If pinay is still relatively young, she wouldn't let her poriner to fuck others, unless she is purely after money.[/QUOTE]Tag,

Yet again a western outlook is being applied to an Asian situation. It's common in Asia to have apparent and real situations that may not be the same so that no one is embarrassed and everyone saves "Face". That's why you can't fuck your neighbour or cousin but it's tolerated if there is a dalliance on a "business trip", where the wife's family and friends will not see what may occur. Of course everyone knows what happens but it's important that no one is directly confronted or emabarrased.

Re read my post and you will find that it was only about two peers of the similar social and financial standing that marry. I would argue that this happens far more often than is recognised on this board. You are talking about non peers where the monger would be far older and wealthier than the girl and has probably only met on line or for a very short time. In those cases, I totally agree with you.

My use of "a man of means" was simply because mongering costs money. If the husband does not have that freely available then any activities will negatively impact the family's financial situation and therefore the wife directly.

[QUOTE=Ashok91;2163168]Hey Guys,

Attached is Michel and she is Filipina. She is currently in Bangalore, India and seems to travel a lot.

I'm planning to meet her. Anyone here has any experience with her?[/QUOTE]Are you going to fuck him first or is he going to fuck you first?

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2163221]There is no benefit for a foreigner in marrying a Pinay, it only brings dangers and obligations.[/QUOTE]Well what about love?

[QUOTE=Goferring;2163248]Tag,

Yet again a western outlook is being applied to an Asian situation. It's common in Asia to have apparent and real situations that may not be the same so that no one is embarrassed and everyone saves "Face". That's why you can't fuck your neighbour or cousin but it's tolerated if there is a dalliance on a "business trip", where the wife's family and friends will not see what may occur. Of course everyone knows what happens but it's important that no one is directly confronted or emabarrased.
[/QUOTE]Goferring is correct, and I believe he's the only participant in this discussion who understands the fundamental socio-cutural differences between Asian mindsets and those in most of the West. Most of the guys who come here for 2-3 weeks, and assume that based on their experience with bar girls, they understand something about the culture are deluding themselves. Ultimately, this is an unwinnable argument since some of us who have lived in SE Asia for years, studied and lived in the cultures, and immersed ourselves in the latter's daily realities proceed from a different set of assumptions than those who have had different life experiences.

GE.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2163318]Well what about love?[/QUOTE]What about love? Love is a feeling of intense desire and attraction toward a person with whom one is disposed to make a pair; the emotion of sex and romance.

In the Philippines, marriage is a legally enforceable marital contract entitling a woman to a share of your assets and future earnings, along with the threat of 7 years in a human sardine can with hundreds of criminals who want to make you their woman. The lack of divorce for the Filipina wife and the low cost of hitmen create a perverse incentive for her to have her husband murdered when she wants to end the marriage.

You do not need a legal contract to catch feelings for a woman. In fact, couples "fall in love" first and then decide to marry making the marriage part moot as far as love is concerned. No-divorce marriage in the Philippines is permanent consequence resulting from a temporary feeling called love. LOL! Your penis and feelings will work fine without it. Furthermore, if all the girl wants is love, she is not going make a fuss about marriage as most of them make babies and live with Filipino men without it.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2163322]Goferring is correct, and I believe he's the only participant in this discussion who understands the fundamental socio-cutural differences between Asian mindsets and those in most of the West. Most of the guys who come here for 2-3 weeks, and assume that based on their experience with bar girls, they understand something about the culture are deluding themselves. Ultimately, this is an unwinnable argument since some of us who have lived in SE Asia for years, studied and lived in the cultures, and immersed ourselves in the latter's daily realities proceed from a different set of assumptions than those who have had different life experiences.

GE.[/QUOTE]It's all rather academic. Most of the contributors on this site are unlikely to come into contact with educated, cultured and sophisticated Pinay women from good families. They are only going to mingle with hookers, so that's the only group of women they need to understand. All hookers are in the business for money and a permanent residency card in a western nation. Every foreigner is seen by them as a walking ATM and a conduit to achieving financial success. As long as the foreigners are aware of these basic facts, they shouldn't get into too much trouble.

We do appreciate the fundamental differences between Asian and Western mindsets as you say, but applying them is not necessary as most of us are not likely to be in country beyond two weeks and will have no opportunity to mix with the broader population. Most westerners have no intention of marrying a hooker, but those that do often run into difficulty right from the start. The discussion was intending to flesh this out more.

We do get that extra marital dalliances are tolerated in Asia as long as the husband is discreet and doesn't disrupt the family unit. We also understand the general behaviour of hookers is not representative of the behaviour of all Filipina women. The majority of Filipina women would not be interested in marrying foreigners and seek only relationships from men in their own social stratum. Furthermore, the majority of Filipina women are happy to remain in the Phillipines. We are not complete imbeciles.

I would also add that the non-pro women who seek foreigners on DIA, PL, FC etc might only be marginally better than hookers.

Somehow, I doubt the old Western monger with an "Asian mindset" will be happy with other mongers and Filipino trike drivers fucking his wife when he is on that "business trip" chasing prostitutes. Most of the Western men who marry Filipinas claim they want a traditional marriage with a loyal wife.

Furthermore, Filipinas do not have an "Asian mindset" they have a "Filipina mindset" which means they act jealous and possessive towards their husbands while cuckolding him behind his back. Filipino marriage involves both the man and woman cuckolding each other, and the man accepts any bastard children the wife brings home in her belly. If a Western man has this mindset, he should not have any problem marrying a bar girl as he will not mind being a cuckold.

If both parties are going to fuck other people and make bastard babies with them, the expense and charade of a marriage is pointless. Why go into a church in front the entire village and family to recite empty vows when the bride still has her trike driver lover's cum in her pussy and the monger husband still has the scent of his most recent prostitute on his cock? The foreigner is going to be providing free roast pig, rice, cake, sweet drinks, and alcohol to the whole barangay. Why waste time and money on a lie? The Philippines does not require foreigners to marry in order to live here as cash dispensing walking penises. Do not make it unnecessarily complicated.

Perhaps, we should have a "Cuck and Bull" thread to help the Asian mindset fellas. Many fellas on the board are into pounding married Pinay pussy and flooding it with hot cream pie.