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[QUOTE=Guitarrefreak; 1172681]So there is this club I have been frequenting (not in the zona.)

Girl1: total GFE, made me promise I will visit her again. But the next time I did, I was not with her because she was not available and girl2 came to me. I could sense a tinge of jealousy / annoyance from girl1 after. Never did her[/quote]It's like you asking her to promise that she won't go with another guy. Forget about it. Don't play that game. She is a sex worker and unless you are here to find the next Mrs. Guitarfreak, then let it roll. DO NOT become emotionally affected by what the girls think. You pay them for sex, you walk away. Who you do is your business and if she doesn't want you for a client anymore, then so be it. DO NOT fall for this tactic.

[QUOTE=Guitarrefreak;1172681]Girl2: actually met with her and had good fun w / some buddies many months ago, total GFE, she still remembers me from a few months back, did her for $.5 and exchanged numbers (she picks up when I call and she tries calling me once in a while)[/quote]She did a good job, it's a reason to repeat with her, but you are out there "sportfucking." Enjoy the sessions. Move on.

[QUOTE=Guitarrefreak;1172681]Girl3: met with her because girls 1 and 2 were not working that day, turns out to be a total GFE also, had a great time with her in the club. And took her back to hotel after and did her without any talk about money (left her some tips for the taxi but I was running out of cash at that time). She told me she came 6 times.[/quote]I hate to be the one to tell you this, but girls lie. Yes, they lie. As for the free session, don't read too much into it. Now you OWE her one, or at least you should be thinking along those lines. You can bet she is. She came 6 times? Then she should pay you.

[QUOTE=Guitarrefreak; 1172681]All girls I bought drinks for in exchange for company during my time at the club but all went above and beyond the call of duty (relatively speaking). And all girls work at the same club and shifts do overlap.

I am so fucked. (emotionally) [/QUOTE]If you are getting good value for your money, then "fill your boots." Stay away from the emotional issues. Do NOT fall into the belief that they care about you. They don't. They are W O R K I N G.

If they are willing to meet you for a free weekend away (like in Ensenada, for example) , just you and her, good times and no pay for play, then that might be a good thing but only [i][b]IF you are interested in developing a long term relationship[/b][/i]. Even then I would heavily caution you.

Look: These girls see more dick than you do, and YOU have one. They are well schooled in the hustle, they know how to play you. Well, you play back.

Country John

[QUOTE=Hugotheman;1172230]I made my monthly trip to Tijuana. I won't cover all the details since all the trips nowadays seems to be following the script of my previous reports.[/QUOTE]Hugo, sounds like you had a great time. Be careful about patronizing the waiters outside the clubs. I don't care how well you think you know these guys, some things are better left alone. Keep your private side private."Honest" waiters is an oxymoron. If you tip well, they tend to not try and rip you, but that doesn't mean the next guy gets a fair shake. So be cool.

Also, you might want to talk to someone about what can happen with you driving around Tijuana drunk and Gringo, even if you are only a passenger, because you won't like what I have to say about it.

I'm glad that you come here, enjoy yourself, enjoy the girls, have a good time. But remember to keep a low profile and be cool. It's a lot safer here than before, but even in the best of times, personal security is something you need to take seriously. I wouldn't want anything bad to happen to you.

CJ sir. You have slapped senses back into me!

Not wanting to dwell too much on the detail on the tijuana experience, but I agree w / your caution about not becoming emotionally attached. Fuck, I have been on too many sinking ship experiences during my travels to the east, cannot possibly deal with one so close to home.

[QUOTE=Country John; 1172958]It's like you asking her to promise that she won't go with another guy. Forget about it. Don't play that game. She is a sex worker and unless you are here to find the next Mrs. Guitarfreak, then let it roll. DO NOT become emotionally affected by what the girls think. You pay them for sex, you walk away. Who you do is your business and if she doesn't want you for a client anymore, then so be it. DO NOT fall for this tactic.

She did a good job, it's a reason to repeat with her, but you are out there "sportfucking." Enjoy the sessions. Move on.

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but girls lie. Yes, they lie. As for the free session, don't read too much into it. Now you OWE her one, or at least you should be thinking along those lines. You can bet she is. She came 6 times? Then she should pay you.

If you are getting good value for your money, then "fill your boots." Stay away from the emotional issues. Do NOT fall into the belief that they care about you. They don't. They are W O R K I N G.

If they are willing to meet you for a free weekend away (like in Ensenada, for example) , just you and her, good times and no pay for play, then that might be a good thing but only [i][b]IF you are interested in developing a long term relationship[/b][/i]. Even then I would heavily caution you.

Look: These girls see more dick than you do, and YOU have one. They are well schooled in the hustle, they know how to play you. Well, you play back.

Country John[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Country John; 1172964]Hugo, sounds like you had a great time. Be careful about patronizing the waiters outside the clubs. I don't care how well you think you know these guys, some things are better left alone. Keep your private side private."Honest" waiters is an oxymoron. If you tip well, they tend to not try and rip you, but that doesn't mean the next guy gets a fair shake. So be cool.

Also, you might want to talk to someone about what can happen with you driving around Tijuana drunk and Gringo, even if you are only a passenger, because you won't like what I have to say about it.

I'm glad that you come here, enjoy yourself, enjoy the girls, have a good time. But remember to keep a low profile and be cool. It's a lot safer here than before, but even in the best of times, personal security is something you need to take seriously. I wouldn't want anything bad to happen to you.[/QUOTE]Country John, Thanks so much for the advice, I think I'am getting a little to comfortable down in Tijuana and a reminder to always exercise caution is much appreciated. Although I like to drink when Iam down there Iam careful not to end up fall down drunk. But unfortunately I get to the point where I start to use bad judgement, I don't know how many times I have told my son never get in a car with someone who has been drinking.

I did read your advice to Guitarrefreak on the pitfalls of emotional involvment with sex workers, and Iam afraid it might be to late for me. I have made those numerous trips to Tijuana over the years and it has always been for sportfucking. But now maybe it is some kind of mid life crisis but I can't wait to spend time with the GF type I have been hanging with. All of a sudden just dancing and kissing has taken a priority to sex with a new and different lady.

Although I would never seek any kind of relationship with an American sex worker. I think it may be different in Tijuana, while most girls seem to be hustlers I think it is posible to come across a special lady who ended up in the sex business due to bad circumstances.

Thanks again for the advice you provide, you are doing a real service for us Tijuana mongers. I probably have a hundred questions I would like to ask you about life in Tijuana. You should probably have an ask CJ section on this forum where you can dispense advice.

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[QUOTE=Hugotheman; 1173577]I think it may be different in Tijuana, while most girls seem to be hustlers I think it is possible to come across a special lady who ended up in the sex business due to bad circumstances.[/QUOTE]
Almost anything is possible. The odds are stacked way against you though, probably 95% to 5. There are plenty of women in life who have had bad circumstances and are not in the sex business. Please do not take that as a knock on women who are in the business.

I can understand how one could get caught up in the moment. I got back from Medellin, Colombia last night. The ladies that I sessioned with were all stunning GFE type encounters. I'm a fat, old, f*rt, so it would be easy to confuse business with pleasure, especially when they are having pleasure while doing the business.

All good things take time. Do not be in a hurry for this. People can mask who they are for short periods of time, but in the long run, especially in a crisis (to them) , they will fall back on who they really are.

I wish you the best, and hope I find my long lost love this weekend in Tijuana.

Health & happiness to all.

[QUOTE=Dornyone;1172671]WTF are you doing in a nail salon? :)[/QUOTE]Who goes to nail salons? . Where there are women you will find me!

[QUOTE=Madisonguy;1173723]Who goes to nail salons? . Where there are women you will find me![/QUOTE]One of my routine moves while traveling is getting a manicure / pedicure on the cheap. It usually happens after lunch on a full stomach with a slight buzz. Peru is an excellent place to get "footed" by a young pedicurist.

While investigating the swap meet on 5 why 10 "Lazaro Cardenas Swap Meet" I found a beauty school near the entrance that does manicures / pedicures on the cheap. 100mx I think. Obviously the students were female. I really should have gone in for one but I was on a different mission.

How to get to the swap meet? Good ol ave madero and calle 4. Hop on the van that reads 5 y10 and get off at the swap meet. Make sure he doesn't leave you at the mercado de todos. That is a little further away from the LC swap meet.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1173729]One of my routine moves while traveling is getting a manicure / pedicure on the cheap. It usually happens after lunch on a full stomach with a slight buzz. Peru is an excellent place to get "footed" by a young pedicurist.

While investigating the swap meet on 5 why 10 "Lazaro Cardenas Swap Meet" I found a beauty school near the entrance that does manicures / pedicures on the cheap. 100mx I think. Obviously the students were female. I really should have gone in for one but I was on a different mission.

How to get to the swap meet? Good ol ave madero and calle 4. Hop on the van that reads 5 y10 and get off at the swap meet. Make sure he doesn't leave you at the mercado de todos. That is a little further away from the LC swap meet.[/QUOTE]Yeah my first pedicure was my premier trip to Costa Rica. Having a hot little thing slouched over tits hanging out taking care of my feet, well after that I was hooked. Plus the tail end bonus is you treat the people there good regardless if it's to get between your legs and then you send your girl there for next to nothing and they talk like you're a prince. I leave for my first trip to Philippines tomorrow and I know I will be hitting spas like crazy the prices they charge I can go about once a day and not feel it in the wallet.

[QUOTE=Hugotheman; 1173577]Country John, Thanks so much for the advice, I think I'am getting a little to comfortable down in Tijuana and a reminder to always exercise caution is much appreciated. Although I like to drink when Iam down there Iam careful not to end up fall down drunk. But unfortunately I get to the point where I start to use bad judgement, I don't know how many times I have told my son never get in a car with someone who has been drinking.

I did read your advice to Guitarrefreak on the pitfalls of emotional involvment with sex workers, and Iam afraid it might be to late for me. I have made those numerous trips to Tijuana over the years and it has always been for sportfucking. But now maybe it is some kind of mid life crisis but I can't wait to spend time with the GF type I have been hanging with. All of a sudden just dancing and kissing has taken a priority to sex with a new and different lady.

Although I would never seek any kind of relationship with an American sex worker. I think it may be different in Tijuana, while most girls seem to be hustlers I think it is posible to come across a special lady who ended up in the sex business due to bad circumstances.

Thanks again for the advice you provide, you are doing a real service for us Tijuana mongers. I probably have a hundred questions I would like to ask you about life in Tijuana. You should probably have an ask CJ section on this forum where you can dispense advice.[/QUOTE]I have time under my belt here and, to my benefit, I have a genuine interest in the lifestyle and culture. Working hard to establish a business that provides a steady income helps; because being poor sucks anyway, being poor here is beyond tough. So I live and work in this environment that I've come to appreciate and learn a bit about.

I am always interested in helping you out and you can always be assured that you will get the straight dope from me on any issue I can help with.

There are girls out there who want to be taken away from the Zona as many are there for purely financial reasons. Many are there to support their boyfriends or other bad situation, but there are many girls looking for a better life. Some are waiting for prince charming, others want that "sugardaddy" scenario.

There is no end to the games. The girls think all Americans have lots of money so they are "fair game." The girls are well schooled on using the pussy wrench to get what they want. Girls here are not into budgets, planning, saving etc, they live for the day. They have trouble quantifying the value of money to gringos because gringos seems to spend so freely. People work in the maquiladoras for 800 to 1000 pesos per week here and still manage to make their life go right. If you drop 3000 pesos in their lap, they would go nuts.

Talking a woman here is easy if you are prepared to make the commitment. It's a tough commitment. It means a change to your thinking and consideration for the way they think. It's not a bad thing necessarily.

But ask away. I hate using bandwidth for off topic discussions, because the reason for the forum is to discuss the art of mongering etc, but as Jackson allows, I will answer.

Headed down to zona norte last viernes. Took a buddy there to chill a little and blow of some steam before trying to get in touch with my atf. Got a little pleasant surprise.

Checked out back alley, then head into adelitas, didn't find anything we liked, just before we were going to head into Hong kong, got distracted by a pimp who grabbed us across the street to check out a massage parlor that was on the 2nd floor. Long story short, initially we didn't see anyone we wanted and were going to head back to hk, but the pimp "promised" us that he was going to show us another batch of girls (who never arrived) and that we can just wait at the adjacent bar (which turned out to be where all their girls were at if not "massaging" upstairs.

Anyway, at one point there was this cute looking thing that caught my attention and went upstairs, I kept my fingers crossed that she won't be picked as I really wanted to check her out again and 5 mins later she returned. The waiters knew I was eyeing her and brought her to me. One drink later and we headed upstairs. I was pleasantly surprised to learn that she spoke really good english and comes to SD quite often (she said that her dad lived in la jolla but she and her mom stay in Tijuana and thats where she go to college). Anyways, $35 for the house and 15 mins into the room, she asked me if I wanted anything else. I let her pop my Tijuana massage cherry for $80. Amazing session, lots of GFE (no gr33k) but overall just feeling very awesome and passionate. Totally NOT a clock watcher, and very very cute (kept saying "oh thank you").

Exchanged numbers and she asked me to call her whenever. Surprised to know her number is a SD one (and yes it works).

In comparison. My buddy picked another girl who was totally silent, but still offered him some amount of excitement. He paid her $60 instead but that didn't bother me at all, my chica started at $100 and I countered at $60 (which I know was lowballing, for her quality in terms of looks) and eventually settled at $80 which we were both happy.

For the life of me I cannot remember her name. Maybe taja or something.

The rest of the night going to find my atf is another story. I will share it when I have a chance to answer some emails that pays my bills.

Only get to Tijuana once a year. Here are my impressions. Parking on the street across from the outlet mall was worse than ever. Usually find a spot on the street half the time, so I don't have to pay to park. Did not find a spot one night out of four, including Sunday night.

Like the new bridge, although others have said they don't. It's a shorter walk for me to get back to my hotel then the old way. Border Patrol guys are assholes. One guy made me turn around be / see I said I had nothing to declare. Another kept asking what my purpose of my trip was. Both just were negative people. The 2 females were excellent.

Had my first taxi driver not drop me at the circle by the stairs. He dropped me back a ways up the hill. Was not sure where I was at first. BTW, it was a Taxi Libre. Ended up no big deal, but was uncomfortable at first, not sure of my location.

Was impressed with the improvements in the area. The Adelita's gift store looks nice. The sidewalks look as good as they have in a while. The new taco stand / restaurant at the corner near the front of HK is nice also. The still need to improve the sidewalks on the side streets from the alley to the front of HK / AB.

Did Mexico win a soccer game Sunday? Lot's of people wearing their colors, honking, and waving flags.

Never knew where the hill was where the girls in school uniforms are. Found it, but not venture that direction. Next trip.

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[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1175669].

Did Mexico win a soccer game Sunday? Lot's of people wearing their colors, honking, and waving flags.

\\\[/QUOTE]Yes they won the world championship for under 17.

Just wondering if its worth it to do Tijuana on a Thursday night if I can't do Friday or Saturday. Is the selection on Thursday better than earlier in the week? Not trying to make the drive to be disappointed! Thanks for the replies, feel free to PM me.

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112; 1176020]Just wondering if its worth it to do Tijuana on a Thursday night if I can't do Friday or Saturday. Is the selection on Thursday better than earlier in the week? Not trying to make the drive to be disappointed! Thanks for the replies, feel free to PM me.

Rodeo[/QUOTE]The best time to come to the Zona Norte is on the weekends beginning Friday night and continuing through Sunday morning. If you insist on coming during the week, you should not be disappointed if you were not looking for the trophy fuck that only works Saturday nights. There are (IMHO) a lot of very do-able girls out all of the time.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112; 1176020]Just wondering if its worth it to do Tijuana on a Thursday night if I can't do Friday or Saturday. Is the selection on Thursday better than earlier in the week? Not trying to make the drive to be disappointed! Thanks for the replies, feel free to PM me.

Rodeo[/QUOTE]Was there last Thurs. Sat.

Sat. Was the busiest, followed by Fri, then Thurs, and the biggest drop off was Sun. Far from empty on Thurs. Even Sunday picked up, just a little later, and still plenty of hotties.