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[QUOTE=Jojosun;1939021] : ,:. ; I dont think brothels in Edgware Road are any big secret. Like I say most are advertised in phone boxes, and the one other I spotted which wasn't advertised is not exactly discreet. I think the police know better than any of us about the brothels in this area already.:[/QUOTE]Brothels are illegal but going to Brothels to monger isn't. If the info above were True and I wanted to find out so badly, then the obvious thing to do, is to ask a friendly Young Policeman for the exact locations.

Hi guys,

Is there any agency in London, that offers Japanese / Korean girls with real photos? I mean as they appear, not "she barely looks like, but probably. " Going to London tomorrow, so it would be great to find someone.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Optimist;1939119]Can I echo PayforIt. Some specific information would be helpful to those of us who are not recently experienced in how to find good providers in the UK.

Jojosun just below gave a sort of lead, which I tried to check out, but it led to nothing useful: just walk up and down a particular road.

I know the UK is convoluted, sso help would be a bonus.[/QUOTE]I used to think that London mongers were just bloody minded, selfish and snidely in deliberately providing half clues leading to others being sent on wild goose chases.

But the sort of characters that like to post on these forums are the type that probably would not waste an opportunity to blow their own trumpets. Boasting and providing indisputable proof about how they found places that other mere mongers have failed to find despite their strenuous efforts.

So no the reason for this reticence must be that good places are so hard to come by in London and could be so easily snatched away if the police find out about them. As a result these mongers are just running scared about providing any useful information at all.

[QUOTE=Optimist;1939119]Can I echo PayforIt. Some specific information would be helpful to those of us who are not recently experienced in how to find good providers in the UK.

Jojosun just below gave a sort of lead, which I tried to check out, but it led to nothing useful: the advice on the other forum was just walk up and down a particular road.

By the way, I believe that promoting another English language forum is against this Forum's s.[/QUOTE]There was a Q and A re exact location of the said Brothel _Q; I live close by, and I walk all the street but couldn't find it.

What do I have to look for? Any different light or something?

A: The sign in the window: Girls here, good rates, no Condom required, Directions to the Pox Doctor on request.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1939181]Brothels are illegal but going to Brothels to monger isn't. If the info above were True and I wanted to find out so badly, then the obvious thing to do, is to ask a friendly Young Policeman for the exact locations.[/QUOTE]Shame it's come to this! Great advice for first time visitors to the London thread who will now read your post and think that the best way to find a brothel in London is to ask a Policeman. Well done. Now let me think of whether I will be trying that out sometime soon. ?

[QUOTE=Krazydude;1939025]Well, now I get (hopefully) what you are looking for. Took a while to get there, but at least we did get there (or are we not there yet? If you read my previous post below (#5195) you will find that I only go for independents. I'm not the brothel visiting, choosing from a LU sort of punter. That isn't my preference. Did that years ago, when I did not know any better and never really enjoyed myself. Bait and switch, frequent turnover and patchy service were a few reasons why I switched over to indies. I can now see why you refer to FKK in your post and I do not seek that sort of experience in London. If I do get the itch to indulge in that sort of experience, I head over to Germany. So my FR will not cater to your requirements.

Continuing on the restaurant analogy, the conversation should have gone like.

You: There are no good restaurants in London.

Me: Yes there are, I've had excellent meals over the years in London restaurants.

You: Do you know any good restaurants in London, I love steaks.

Me: I am more of sushi guy myself, but if you enjoy steaks, there is this site called TA. Check it out.

You: Yes I know, but can you tell me which one's are good and bad.

Me: I'm not into steaks so why don't you go onto TA and ask the question, where can you find the best steaks in London and see what comes up.

You: You are from London and enjoy Sushi, why don't you tell me where all the good steak places are, clearly we are all here to find the best steak places.

Me: I'm here to find the best Sushi or Tapas place. If I want steaks, then I'll go someplace I know steak connoisseurs congregate.

You: Where's that?

Me: Go to TA and check. There might be a few steak connoisseurs on there. All the best.[/QUOTE]Firstly in terms of "now we are getting there" I've posted about the lack of select from LU brothels about 20 times so I really don't understand "finally getting there".

I don't use independents as it is too hit and miss and the agencies post lots of pics (and so do girls on other indie sites) which are just so photoshopped and not true. You are sat in a hotel hoping and praying that the one girl you've picked looks 80% like her picture, and when she doesn't what do you do? Tell her you ordered steak not sushi? I've therefore progressed from using independents to using line ups where I can see face to face what I'm considering buying.

On the restaurant analogy, which I won't bore everyone with any longer, the conversation could simply have been "ah. As you are looking for steaks I don't have a clue as I don't eat them".

The bottom line of our exchanges (and thanks for taking the time to respond) is that sadly you don't know of any decent walk up brothels which have a line up in central London. Despite my many posts, and challenges to all to name just ONE, and veiled references to Edgeware Road, (no particulars provided of venues / girls etc) we've descended to me being advised to ask a Policeman where they are.

Walk up brothels to choose from a line up do not exist in central London. I accept fully that many others may not want that option. If you don't, and you want swinger parties, or to rely on looking at a pic on a website and hoping that girl shows up, London has lots of options. If you want the same option to select that exists all over the world and in many cities in the UK, you'll be disappointed. They don't exist in London, or if they do, no members of ISG know where they are but instead advise that you ask a policeman where they are. Terrific.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;1939339]Firstly in terms of "now we are getting there" I've posted about the lack of select from LU brothels about 20 times so I really don't understand "finally getting there".[/QUOTE]I joined the discussion after post #5174 where the general tone of the post was there are no good punting options in London. No mention of LU and Brothels. Haven't dug deeper into any previous posts / conversations.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;1939339]I don't use independents as it is too hit and miss and the agencies post lots of pics (and so do girls on other indie sites) which are just so photoshopped and not true. You are sat in a hotel hoping and praying that the one girl you've picked looks 80% like her picture, and when she doesn't what do you do? Tell her you ordered steak not sushi? I've therefore progressed from using independents to using line ups where I can see face to face what I'm considering buying.[/QUOTE]I only use independents and find them much better than brothels / agency girls. Photoshop is common on both platforms; they'll want to entice you by whatever means necessary. With indie's you can see them when they open the door and invite you in, talk to them to establish if they know the language and ask about what services they offer. In these 2-3 minutes, if you don't think it'll be a good session, say Thanks, but no thanks and leave. Sat in a hotel. So you mean outcalls? Also how does seeing a face ensure good service. In FKK's you have a lot of of optificks, who look great, but are poor service providers. Are you just going for Optificks?

Also on UKP, you can go into a FR and ask the OP if the photos on AW are a good representation or not. This helps you get a good idea about what a WG looks like in person.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;1939339]Walk up brothels to choose from a line up do not exist in central London. I accept fully that many others may not want that option. If you don't, and you want swinger parties, or to rely on looking at a pic on a website and hoping that girl shows up, London has lots of options. If you want the same option to select that exists all over the world and in many cities in the UK, you'll be disappointed. They don't exist in London, or if they do, no members of ISG know where they are but instead advise that you ask a policeman where they are. Terrific.[/QUOTE]Under UK brothel laws, any premises. For example, private flats, saunas, massage parlors may be classified as a brothel if they are used by more than one man or woman for the purpose of prostitution, whether on the same day or on different days. Soho / HoD / LMP are all toeing the line on this and therefore have the rota system where they try to appear to be independents. So there are options and if you are comfortable to work with the options then you get results. If however you have a problem with how things are set-up as opposed to other cities in the world, then yes you will find that your style of mongering is better catered to in other parts of the world. As for me, I want good service and am happy to go with the flow of things. Even if I have bad punts, I know that this isn't a 100% success rate hobby. My good vs bad punt ratio in the worst month of punting over the years in London has been 2:1.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1939278]I used to think that London mongers were just bloody minded, selfish and snidely in deliberately providing half clues leading to others being sent on wild goose chases.

But the sort of characters that like to post on these forums are the type that probably would not waste an opportunity to blow their own trumpets. Boasting and providing indisputable proof about how they found places that other mere mongers have failed to find despite their strenuous efforts.

So no the reason for this reticence must be that good places are so hard to come by in London and could be so easily snatched away if the police find out about them. As a result these mongers are just running scared about providing any useful information at all.[/QUOTE]This makes me scared stiff. [URL]https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/nov/02/immigration.ukcrime.[/URL] They were charged rent, and subjected to fines if they refused anal or unprotected sex or a client was not attracted to them. Some escaped after passing notes to each other. Each to their own.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;1939334]Shame it's come to this! Great advice for first time visitors to the London thread who will now read your post and think that the best way to find a brothel in London is to ask a Policeman. Well done. Now let me think of whether I will be trying that out sometime soon. ?[/QUOTE]Found it for you so there's no need to ask a Policeman. We have a terrible problem with the prostitutes opposite the Monkey Puzzle pub, next to the two telephone boxes. They scream and shout obscenities between each other and between them and their pimps. There's fighting between the girls, fighting between the girls and the pimps, and sometimes fighting with customers. It's only in the last year that it's got absolutely terrible. The reason is that they've been cleared out of King's Cross and they've come down here and the existing prostitutes don't want them, so there's a turf war. ' [URL]http://www.spectator.co.uk/2003/04/the-arab-street/[/URL] A Bangkok Soi 1,3 and 5 kinda of area in Central London. Best meat market in Town where you can have your steak and eat it.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1939517]Found it for you so there's no need to ask a Policeman. We have a terrible problem with the prostitutes opposite the Monkey Puzzle pub, next to the two telephone boxes. They scream and shout obscenities between each other and between them and their pimps. There's fighting between the girls, fighting between the girls and the pimps, and sometimes fighting with customers. It's only in the last year that it's got absolutely terrible. The reason is that they've been cleared out of King's Cross and they've come down here and the existing prostitutes don't want them, so there's a turf war. ' [URL]http://www.spectator.co.uk/2003/04/the-arab-street/[/URL] A Bangkok Soi 1,3 and 5 kinda of area in Central London. Best meat market in Town where you can have your steak and eat it.[/QUOTE]Quotation marks are missing on this new small device or most probably I just can't find them even when looking through the key hole, but I am sure you sure you get the message.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1939517]Found it for you so there's no need to ask a Policeman. "We have a terrible problem with the prostitutes opposite the Monkey Puzzle pub, next to the two telephone boxes. They scream and shout obscenities between each other and between them and their pimps. There's fighting between the girls, fighting between the girls and the pimps, and sometimes fighting with customers. It's only in the last year that it's got absolutely terrible. The reason is that they've been cleared out of King's Cross and they've come down here and the existing prostitutes don't want them, so there's a turf war. "[URL]http://www.spectator.co.uk/2003/04/the-arab-street/[/URL] A Bangkok Soi 1,3 and 5 kinda of area in Central London. Best meat market in Town where you can have your steak and eat it.[/QUOTE]Here' s the Pub [URL]http://themonkeypuzzlepub.co.uk[/URL]. The Monkey Puzzle.

30 Southwick Street, London W2 1 JQ, you. Now you know where to find them Lined up. [URL]http://www.londontown.com/LondonStreets/southwick_street_a51.html/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1939278]I used to think that London mongers were just bloody minded, selfish and snidely in deliberately providing half clues leading to others being sent on wild goose chases.

But the sort of characters that like to post on these forums are the type that probably would not waste an opportunity to blow their own trumpets. Boasting and providing indisputable proof about how they found places that other mere mongers have failed to find despite their strenuous efforts.

So no the reason for this reticence must be that good places are so hard to come by in London and could be so easily snatched away if the police find out about them. As a result these mongers are just running scared about providing any useful information at all.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Jojosun;1939512]This makes me scared stiff. [URL]https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/nov/02/immigration.ukcrime.[/URL] "They were charged rent, and subjected to fines if they refused anal or unprotected sex or a client was not attracted to them. Some escaped after passing notes to each other. Each to their own".[/QUOTE]Hi Myrch,

Its not the Police that scare the shit out of me, But the activities that goes on in some of the Brothels with a line up such as the ones in the link above, unprotected sex, trafficked and controlled girls, pimps on the premises.

Here's what I meant when I gave the advice about asking a Policeman for directions to Local Brothels. Maybe its much quicker just to drop in and ask the question at the local Police station.

[URL]http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/watch-prostitutes-sell-sex-30-7919660[/URL]

News UK News Prostitution.

Watch as prostitutes sell sex for £30 at seedy hotel just yards from police station.

21:13, 7 May 2016 updated 21:13, 7 May 2016.

By Nick Dorman.

Foreign escorts provide round-the-clock service at Hartley Hotel across the street from the Met's Forest Gate nick in east London.

Prostitutes are selling sex for as little as £30 at a seedy *hotel opposite a police station.

Foreign escorts provide a round-the-clock service just 20 paces from the front door of the Met 's Forest Gate nick in east London.

Prostitution at the one star Hartley Hotel is so notorious that it is *mentioned by reviewers on the TripAdvisor site – where it is rated as among the capital's worst hotels.

Outside the *hotel a uniformed constable could be seen standing in front of the police *station. A man at reception waved our reporter through when *given the girl's room number."

And there's a lot to be said for mongering very close to a Police station " Another pointed out an advantage of it being near a police *station. He said: "The Hartley Hotel is directly opposite Forest Gate nick! If I run away from a pimp with a machete, I'm only 10 yards from the Old Bill."

All the best and good luck wherever you monger and in some places you, the really need it.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1939517]Found it for you so there's no need to ask a Policeman. We have a terrible problem with the prostitutes opposite the Monkey Puzzle pub, next to the two telephone boxes. They scream and shout obscenities between each other and between them and their pimps. There's fighting between the girls, fighting between the girls and the pimps, and sometimes fighting with customers. It's only in the last year that it's got absolutely terrible. The reason is that they've been cleared out of King's Cross and they've come down here and the existing prostitutes don't want them, so there's a turf war. ' [URL]http://www.spectator.co.uk/2003/04/the-arab-street/[/URL] A Bangkok Soi 1,3 and 5 kinda of area in Central London. Best meat market in Town where you can have your steak and eat it.[/QUOTE]I'll say this Jojo. Nobody does research quite like you! I'm grateful I don't need to now ask a policeman. Though having read the link in your article I'd need to ask one to accompany me to that area of Edgeware Road to avoid getting into a real fight. I wanted a line up not a punch up! I've just about given up on it. As Krazydudesays: what I'm looking for just doesn't really exist in London.

[QUOTE=Krazydude;1939448]I joined the discussion after post #5174 where the general tone of the post was there are no good punting options in London. No mention of LU and Brothels. Haven't dug deeper into any previous posts / conversations.

I only use independents and find them much better than brothels / agency girls. Photoshop is common on both platforms; they'll want to entice you by whatever means necessary. With indie's you can see them when they open the door and invite you in, talk to them to establish if they know the language and ask about what services they offer. In these 2-3 minutes, if you don't think it'll be a good session, say Thanks, but no thanks and leave. Sat in a hotel. So you mean outcalls? Also how does seeing a face ensure good service. In FKK's you have a lot of of optificks, who look great, but are poor service providers. Are you just going for Optificks?

Also on UKP, you can go into a FR and ask the OP if the photos on AW are a good representation or not. This helps you get a good idea about what a WG looks like in person.

Under UK brothel laws, any premises. For example, private flats, saunas, massage parlors may be classified as a brothel if they are used by more than one man or woman for the purpose of prostitution, whether on the same day or on different days. Soho / HoD / LMP are all toeing the line on this and therefore have the rota system where they try to appear to be independents. So there are options and if you are comfortable to work with the options then you get results. If however you have a problem with how things are set-up as opposed to other cities in the world, then yes you will find that your style of mongering is better catered to in other parts of the world. As for me, I want good service and am happy to go with the flow of things. Even if I have bad punts, I know that this isn't a 100% success rate hobby. My good vs bad punt ratio in the worst month of punting over the years in London has been 2:1.[/QUOTE]Think we've come to the end of the (useful) discussion on it. Couple of points on your interesting response: Yes I prefer outcalls (not if I have a car but I don't in London). Waiting in a hotel, the girl turns up, is not great or like the girl you selected, or is a lot fatter, it is pretty difficult to tell her "thanks but no thanks" not least as she has a driver outside. I have done it when the girl is just completely unacceptable, but you are in a public place, at risk that she will start shouting and alert all around you to the fact that you've hired a hooker to the hotel. So maybe getting transport around London to visit the girls is the better option. It's just a drag having to trawl around at the end of a night.

You've obviously had successes. But it's just too hit and miss for me though I take your point on being able to converse on UKP to attempt to get some corroborative evidence before you make the choice. All fine if you live in London or have time to plan a visit. For me, I might only find out on the morning of a visit I'm going. Pretty difficult to then start messaging other members to find out what I want to know. So I am pretty much limited to selection from what I see online. And my success rate on agencies / independents is really quite low.

Just on success rates. I agree with you this leisure activity is far from guaranteed. Yes I love the optificks, indeed I really enjoy the whole pastime of going to a club in Spain, or Germany, or Dubai and being able to select a companion from maybe 50+ girls. I don't just choose based on looks. You can "interview" the girls and build a rapport (or not) about what you are looking for. It would be wrong of me to suggest even this is failsafe. It's not. I've had some poor sessions still. But firstly I'd say they are rare if I've already conducted a proper discussion with the lady, and secondly, even if the chemistry isn't there despite our best efforts, having sex with someone who looks really attractive (because in part of course you only initiate discussions with the ones who hit the spot for you) is still no real chore. AND - you know that you can take a short session knowing full well that you can end it, and go back out to the club to select someone else. In that way you are seriously limiting the risk of an unsuccessful outing. The same applies in the brothels in Manchester, Leeds, Milton Keynes and even in Scotland. If you have a bad session with one girl but saw someone outside who is also sexy, you can move on to another session. Still no guarantee but it helps with the odds! None of that is possible with using independents unless you are willing to say "no thanks on her doorstep" return to your car/cab/tube and start looking, and travelling all over again. What a nightmare!! So whilst it's great if you meet an indie who ticks your boxes, so you are assured of many good sessions, you really are chancing it a bit if you select one on the day, online.

The law in London is no different to that in Manchester. It is how strictly, or not, it is enforced and I get the impression, for whatever reason, that it must be far more strictly enforced in London for the likes of LMP and HoD to be needing to shelter behind the guise of independents. In Manchester for example, the various venues (I think from recent posts we got to 8 of the better known ones) openly advertise in the local press as well as online!! I have NEVER seen a raid at one. I had a moment last year in a brothel in Manchester where the girl jumped off the bed with at towel, told me to wait, and whispered 'police'. Never has my heart raced so much. On went my clothes, quickly, but not as quickly as I lost my rock on boner (!!) which reacted to the word 'police' in the same way as if someone had taken a large mallet to it! Whilst I was thinking of my lines "I thought this was just a massage place" etc. The girl returned, quite relaxed, and then removed here towel to continue the fun. She told me to do likewise. I asked if she'd got it wrong about the police. "No" she said. "They are here but don't worry they are fine....having a beer and might see one of the girls." I didn't believe her completely and told her I needed the bathroom. Whilst sneaking to the toilet I managed to get a look in the lounge and sure enough, two officers were sat with the receptionist having a chat, one with beer in hand. Several customers were sat around and three of the girls (who they hadn't selected). Still in my clothes I asked the receptionist for another beer. One of the officers said Hi and asked if I was having a nice time. I said I was. With some recognition of the danger involved, I asked why they were here. I was told that the police are well aware of the establishments in Manchester and provided they are satisfied that there is no trafficking, no drugs on the premises, a proper liquor licence, no violence, they are happy to allow things to remain as they are. There is one parlour in Manchester where a bouncer kicked a troublesome guy down the stairs and he broke his back. Even after that, it's still open (not the best place!).

So maybe it's just the difference between local police policies but it looks like in London at least, the same line up offerings are not there unless you pick a card from a phone box and hope to get a choice when you arrive. Or head to the area in Jojo's latest post armed with your best knuckle-duster so that whilst trying to build a rapport with a SW you can be ready to engage with the Mike Tyson of Edgeware Road!!

I think it boils down to. Looking for line ups. Head to Manchester Germany or Spain but not London. Looking for indies head to UKP. That doesn't make London "hopeless" for everyone. It makes it pretty poor for me and anyone used to selecting girls from a line up. So be it. I'd have expected that in so little town in mid-Wales, or the Lakes, but certainly not in our wonderful capital city.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;1939718]I'll say this Jojo. Nobody does research quite like you! I'm grateful I don't need to now ask a policeman. Though having read the link in your article I'd need to ask one to accompany me to that area of Edgeware Road to avoid getting into a real fight. I wanted a line up not a punch up! I've just about given up on it. .[/QUOTE][QUOTE=PayForIt;1939339]Firstly in terms of "now we are getting there" I've posted about the lack of select from LU brothels about 20 times so I really don't understand "finally getting there"....[/QUOTE]Indeed you've been banging on about the same subject probably more than 20 times since late August 1012 So it would be such a waste of time and space 4 you to give up just when you're nearly there.

If You think you are having a hard time finding a Brothel with a Line Up in London?? Well let me tell you my experience. When I first started using one well known UK site back in 2008. Everyone there was talking about girls from the other site whenever they meant ([URL]adultwork.com[/URL]) and when I asked, what other site? As I was a newbie, they replied "The site that can't speak its name ".

Then I posted a request for info for Sexy Polish girls in London at £70 for 1/2 hour. You'd think that should bring in a flood of info. Again no response whatsoever although prior to that I posted a lot of info there about mongering in Houston, Vegas, NYC, Poland, Japan and other overseas destinations.

My break came when I joined ISG and started reading about LMP Parties. Went there and had great times with some lovely girls. One or 2 EE Girls I met there tipped me about where to look for them in West London. At the same time I first heard about Milton Keynes as most of the LMP girls at the time were working there.

Since then I learned to use different sources to do my research and use a combo of them (horses&courses) as no one was going to hand over the best mongering tips over to me on a plate.

Most important of all is to be flexible in mongering and be prepared to do the Leg Work as well as the usual research. And believe it or not, you've never had it so good with with your request for info on this thread.