Jakarta

So was in Jakarta last week. Was trying to arrange with JAD but was unable due to work constraints.

Went to colliseum on my own and it is by far one of the most fun places I have seen and been to in a long time. That being said. I saw a lot of the strippers on the 2nd and 3rd floors taht I wanted to take out and not so many in the discoteque.

My question to them was direct are they available and I was told out flat no. Any you guys pull them directly without the pretense of drinking and LD and such?

W.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1141132]Even when I dared him about Jakarta and Lima (Peru) places he told he has visited. I think he only quotes from FR's and post them like his own experience. He only travels in his fantasies![/QUOTE]You are false.

Jejejeje, I have posted 4-5 my experiences about Colombia some days ago. Jejejeje

[QUOTE=Bigcebu;1141127]It depends, start at about 400 Baht a day in the Soi Buakao Area.[/QUOTE]But are they with kitchen? I like to cook some quick meals.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1139531]Medellin is supposed to have the most beautiful women of Colombia. True or not, at least you can find from pitch black to snow white girls / women. Me being an Asian is an advantage here, it tickles their curiosity and opens doors to a possible next level. I'm tempted to say: "like a bule in Jakarta", but without being considered a walking ATM.[/QUOTE]Being Asian is an advantage?:D Now what excuse can I give the Home Minister for travelling to Columbia? Hmmm.

[QUOTE=Bigcebu;1141133]Why? No.
It is a million times more easy in Pattaya.
It is far more easy (and far cheaper) in Pattaya.
- Pattaya is cheaper an less anoying.
- Pattaya has no traffic jams for several hours.
- Pattay is on the beach.
- Pattaya is a tourist destination while most tourists avoid Jakarta.
- Pattaya is a monger destination with tenthousands of girls while Jakarta is just a big city with limited mongering opportunities.
- Thai food is far better than Indonesian food.
For a vacation with mongering I would never go to Jakarta.[/QUOTE]
I think we got the message. Enjoy Pattaya - have a safe trip and take Foxes Hunter with you...:p

[QUOTE=Tenth Legion;1141136] BTW, I might have gone to wrong lounge or missed some step but the following is what happened to me this weekend.

Once you have showered you can go upstairs to the landing where there's another lobby; the ladies there directed me to a lounge that was deserted save one old Indonesian guy who was sipping a beer. Across the wide hall I could see the girls milling about. Then a mamasan approaches me and tells me 380, 000 for room+girl. I was surprised to hear Kartika rates in Malioboro and asked her if this was the Malioboro spa. Now I know zero Bahasa and the Mamasan's English wasn't good either. I ask her "Russia?". She says "No Russia". I ask "Arab? Africa", she says "No Arab. No Africa". I ask "Uzbek? Kazhak?" and she says "Yes. 1.8M rupiah". I saw a 'stani across the hallway and no way I was going to pay this much money for that Borat's daughter-cum-niece. Not even if she won 3rd Best Sex in Mouth Award of Kazhakhstan.

I tried to ask her (in english and pantomime) to show the different levels available like they do in Alexis, like Indonesian local, Indonesian model, Thai / PRC and Thai / PRC model but couldn't get through at all. All she did was show four random Indonesian women tagged at 350, 000 out of the multitudes; I simply wasn't shown any more up close. Also, the Mamasan had this impenetrable, stern aura. Something like that landlady in Kung Fu Hustle. Anyway I chose what I perceived to be the best of the four; a late 20s something called Rosa with a nice bod.

Once we were in the room she was so businesslike, proper decorum and all that. When I tried to inch close during the shower she kinda snapped saying "Later". The shower itself was perfunctory, something like washing your terrier. Then came the "body massage" with oil. Apparently the Libyan crisis and Nuclear-Financial meltdowns have hit the management hard and she was very conservative with the oil. The rubdown was with tits only and nothing like the body-body massages you get everywhere. Once things got too boring I asked her to do the BJ.

The rubber pops out of nowhere and I request her to do a BBBJ; the refusal was flat and stern and she started rolling the rubber on the boner immediately.

I understand if the girl is not comfortable with a BBBJ (the ones that refuse plead "No safe meester. Please meester." and I melt instantly) and always do covered FS if I am punting but this kind of response was a big turn off. I took off the rubber and asked her to do just massage. She silently complied and started a pretty decent massage. Cpl of minutes later she asks me if I am angry and I tell her softly "Girls and service in Alexis much better". This girl started engaging me in small talk, apologized repeatedly and suggested FS a cpl of times but I was kinda bummed off by the whole thing. I tell her "it's ok but I won't be tipping you 'because I took no extras" in a neural tone. Took a lonely shower and walked away while she was still dressing. Met the mamasan at the landing who acknowledged me with a slight nod.

Okay, can someone tell me if I did something wrong? Should I have gone to another floor or said some magic words / secret handshakes? Or was it all just due to poor communication or something else like Sunday is day off or something? Well, I am 29 and OK looking (for my ethnicity.) and I click instantly with people but this experience was a big let down. BTW, damages were only 381, 000 and at least I wasn't ripped off. Not going back to Malioboro unless I have some veterans with me or somebody tells me wherei went wrong.[/QUOTE]
It's difficult to comment without witnessing first hand what actually happened from a neutral standpoint. There are however two lounges at Malioboro - one being the cheaper lounge (the one you walked into) and the other with the more expensive and imported girls. When I went, both lounges had a wide variety to choose from, so I am puzzled by the lack of choice presented to you. What time of the day did you go there? Your lack of communication doesn't help matters. i always find that a little banter goes a long way to making things more comfortable and obtaining the all important (at least to me) GFE.

Incidentally, I'll be in town from Tuesday to Friday for a bit of work and a lot of "stress management" :D

MD II

[QUOTE=Wolfy187; 1141145]My question to them was direct are they available and I was told out flat no. Any you guys pull them directly without the pretense of drinking and LD and such?

W. [/QUOTE]If you intend to book a stripper (for st or lt) actually you can ask their agent (s) about them. Those agents are quite easy to spot if you really look enough, or you can ask the waiters (tip'them please) to introduce you to them.

Got to remind you though, the dancers cost a lot more then the reg wls (as stated by [I]Jakarta After Dark 2[/I], it's around rp1m-1. 5m). And don't ask as if you're a drunk or something, do ask seriously. Had you asked the dancer nicely and showed serious intention to book her, and if you're charming enough, I'm sure they could even make some "cheaper arrangements after work" for you, or at least point you to their agent.

Master Diver II,

I know Colombia very fine and if you ask me some questions I will happy to reply you. Being Asian you will get advantage if you only have moeny to spend. Like in every other country. I can tell you Colombia is wonderful because there are wonderful and cheap girls.
Medellin is the best option because it is a big town but also Cali (with more dark complexion), Pereira, Bucaramanga, Barranquilla, etc. etc. I know every town of Colombia and every town has a different characteristic.

[QUOTE=Bigcebu; 1141133]Why?

No.

It is a million times more easy in Pattaya.

It is far more easy (and far cheaper) in Pattaya.

- Pattaya is cheaper an less anoying.

- Pattaya has no traffic jams for several hours.

- Pattay is on the beach.

- Pattaya is a tourist destination while most tourists avoid Jakarta.

- Pattaya is a monger destination with tenthousands of girls while Jakarta is just a big city with limited mongering opportunities.

- Thai food is far better than Indonesian food.

For a vacation with mongering I would never go to Jakarta. [/QUOTE]Mate, I agree with you on those facts. However, you seem forgot to mention one last fact:

- In Pattaya, they have more "impossible-to-tell shemales". In fact around 25% of the so-called WLs in Thai are shemales (which with their natural smooth complexions and better crossover surgery makes it almost impossible, esp. For non-asian foreigners, to differ). So say you've fucked 4 wls in Pattaya, there's a good chance that 1 one of them is (or was) actually a male. And if you've stayed for mongering holidays in Pattaya for 1 month, then do make your own calculation.

Good luck.

To Tenth Legion.

At what time did you go there? The wls will start working around 1pm, even then some will only start showing around 4pm. So for best time to go there is around 4 to 5 pm.

Also, in malioboro they have mamasans that actually speak decent english. You can ask for "mandy" +62818119136, or "sammy" +6285814398166. Tell them you're a friend of Ben from Singapore, I'm sure they'll be happy to assist you with whatever you need.

Regards

[QUOTE=Wolfy187; 1141145]So was in Jakarta last week. Was trying to arrange with JAD but was unable due to work constraints.

Went to colliseum on my own and it is by far one of the most fun places I have seen and been to in a long time. That being said. I saw a lot of the strippers on the 2nd and 3rd floors taht I wanted to take out and not so many in the discoteque.

My question to them was direct are they available and I was told out flat no. Any you guys pull them directly without the pretense of drinking and LD and such?

W. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Jritz; 1141320]If you intend to book a stripper (for st or lt) actually you can ask their agent (s) about them. Those agents are quite easy to spot if you really look enough, or you can ask the waiters (tip'them please) to introduce you to them.

Got to remind you though, the dancers cost a lot more then the reg wls (as stated by [I]Jakarta After Dark 2[/I], it's around rp1m-1. 5m). And don't ask as if you're a drunk or something, do ask seriously. Had you asked the dancer nicely and showed serious intention to book her, and if you're charming enough, I'm sure they could even make some "cheaper arrangements after work" for you, or at least point you to their agent. [/QUOTE]9 out of 10 dancers at upmarket spas are not available while 9 out of 10 dancers at bordellos are available. Unlike agencies supplying dancers to upmarket spas and nightclubs, agencies supplying dancers to bordellos recruit talents who are willing to do more than just stripping.

The dancers cost Rp. 1,300k at upmarket spas and Rp. 1,100k at bordellos.

50k tequila shot (I think it's a lemon tea) is for topless lap dancing (you can touch). 100k-150k lady's drink is for sitting next to you and tell you how good looking you are.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1141319]Being Asian is an advantage. Now what excuse can I give the Home Minister for travelling to Columbia? Hmmm.

MD II[/QUOTE]Exploring new markets for your product or ask brother Panya what excuse he used to come here ;)

Thanks for the responses Jritz and Master Diver II.

Guess I walked into the wrong lounge. There was another door on that floor and perhaps that led to the "money room". I'll check out the other lounge, speak to the mamasans named and go for the girl wih a real smile / twinkle in her eye other than the one with the perfect a$$. Got to work on my bahasa too.

BTW, I went at 7:00 PM Sunday. It was kinda deserted with only 4-5 clients.

Oh, I did NOT end that night in this sour note. I walked a brisk mile to Star Massage for a quick one and it was chock full of girls and a sizable number of clients. This time tried a new girl called Nieken who has a nice bod, clean, gave pretty good service (not GFE though). Good eye contact during the deed too. Would have gone for my regular there if they had turned up that night.

Only one thing kinda puts me off at the Kota Knock Shops: from evening there are little kids playing right in front of the parlors watching as men come and go, seeing the girls soliciting and all. Well, not as bad as Sonaganchi or Tijuana or the other Red Light Areas of the world but still kinda difficult to walk into such an establishment while a 10 yr old kid is looking at you with a frayed old football in hand. Kinda beyond the walk of "shame" thing, eh?

[QUOTE=Jritz; 1141435]Mate, I agree with you on those facts. However, you seem forgot to mention one last fact:

- In Pattaya, they have more "impossible-to-tell shemales". In fact around 25% of the so-called WLs in Thai are shemales (which with their natural smooth complexions and better crossover surgery makes it almost impossible, esp. For non-asian foreigners, to differ). So say you've fucked 4 wls in Pattaya, there's a good chance that 1 one of them is (or was) actually a male. And if you've stayed for mongering holidays in Pattaya for 1 month, then do make your own calculation.

Good luck. [/QUOTE]Most bars have it's ladyboy, but that makes still less than 5% of the working girls (or things). And most of them aren't good looking. Maybe 0, 5% are really look like good looking girls, but you still notice it very quick when you talk with one. I fucked 100s of girls in Pattaya and I seriously doubt that I ever fucked a ladyboy.

[QUOTE=Bigcebu;1141585]Most bars have it's ladyboy, but that makes still less than 5% of the working girls (or things). And most of them aren't good looking. Maybe 0, 5% are really look like good looking girls, but you still notice it very quick when you talk with one. I fucked 100s of girls in Pattaya and I seriously doubt that I ever fucked a ladyboy.[/QUOTE]First of all, I meant no harm about my statement. Just stating a fact, and gentle warning.

I didn't mean about ladyboy or shemale, I was talking about those who had done "complete" sex reassignment surgery (SRS). They won't stand in the ladyboy / shemale line, they will joining the WLs line.

Facts:

- Thai is now considered the center of world sex reassignment. Their hospitals and surgeons are among the best in the world (for just a country in South East Asia, Thai is on par with US and Canada for the best and most skilled sex reassignment surgeries). Feel free to do your own research, it's just a wikipedia away.

- For an asian country with population just around 60m, how do you think Thai can beat China (population 1, 3 billion) for their transgender reputation and ranks 1 in all Asia for the [B]most[/B] People who's undergone the sex reassignment operations?

- Tell me how can you be that confident to tell the differences of wls who's undergone the SRS or not, while even the thai people themselves can't really tell the difference? FYI, I'm of Chinese-indonesian origin and I have some good friends who're native Thais. They actually the ones who warned me about this stuff, and have experienced it first-hand with these so-called "ladies" themselves. Now if the native Thai themselves can be fooled, how much chance would a foreigner (esp westerner) coming first time to Thai have?

- Just for an eye opener, take a look at this Official Thailand Medical Tourism Cluster's Blog:

[url]http://thailandmedicaltourismcluster.wordpress.com/2011/01/20/they-are-all-males/[/url]

Again, I'm just stating this as a precaution (among all the better things you've mentioned about Pattaya compared to Jakarta) to fellow mongerers visiting Pattaya (or Thai in general) so not to just go blindly shaggin all the ladies they met, and I absolutely has nothing against Thai people or anything.

And again, good luck.

[QUOTE=Jritz; 1141634]First of all, I meant no harm about my statement. Just stating a fact, and gentle warning.

I didn't mean about ladyboy or shemale, I was talking about those who had done "complete" sex reassignment surgery (SRS). They won't stand in the ladyboy / shemale line, they will joining the WLs line.

Facts:

- Thai is now considered the center of world sex reassignment. Their hospitals and surgeons are among the best in the world (for just a country in South East Asia, Thai is on par with US and Canada for the best and most skilled sex reassignment surgeries). Feel free to do your own research, it's just a wikipedia away.

- For an asian country with population just around 60m, how do you think Thai can beat China (population 1, 3 billion) for their transgender reputation and ranks 1 in all Asia for the [B]most[/B] People who's undergone the sex reassignment operations?

- Tell me how can you be that confident to tell the differences of wls who's undergone the SRS or not, while even the thai people themselves can't really tell the difference? FYI, I'm of Chinese-indonesian origin and I have some good friends who're native Thais. They actually the ones who warned me about this stuff, and have experienced it first-hand with these so-called "ladies" themselves. Now if the native Thai themselves can be fooled, how much chance would a foreigner (esp westerner) coming first time to Thai have?

- Just for an eye opener, take a look at this Official Thailand Medical Tourism Cluster's Blog:

[url]http://thailandmedicaltourismcluster.wordpress.com/2011/01/20/they-are-all-males/[/url]

Again, I'm just stating this as a precaution (among all the better things you've mentioned about Pattaya compared to Jakarta) to fellow mongerers visiting Pattaya (or Thai in general) so not to just go blindly shaggin all the ladies they met, and I absolutely has nothing against Thai people or anything.

And again, good luck. [/QUOTE]Guaranteed a good blowjob thats for sure but one you wouldn't be telling your mates. Hehehehe

[QUOTE=Bigcebu;1141585]Most bars have it's ladyboy, but that makes still less than 5% of the working girls (or things). And most of them aren't good looking. Maybe 0, 5% are really look like good looking girls, but you still notice it very quick when you talk with one. I fucked 100s of girls in Pattaya and I seriously doubt that I ever fucked a ladyboy.[/QUOTE]Back in Jakarta, a lot of Blok M clubs have a policy of keeping them out. And if a drunken customer straight off the plane can't tell the difference, the other girls sure can. A word to the security guy and they are history.