Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2654341]Yes that's just my opinion.

And no I don't think there are 9-10's on fb.

I've seen both in real life and banged them both.

But I will say in the FB scene they are upper tier. But if they worked at la Isla they would struggle to get clients. And I don't even think la Isla has a lot of hot girls but there might be an occasional 8-9 there.

The cycle is once they hit 25 and they enhance their looks they'll transfer to the Gusto / La Isla scene.

Then when they run their course there they'll hit the Panama or Costa Rica scene.

Also realize they're many mongers on FB who prefer to have them early in their 18-21 days with that young flaca look. If that's your thing then these girls would be a 8. This is all subjective and just my opinion on the fb girls.[/QUOTE]Did you part with Scarlett? Or is she also available?

When I first started to go to MDE back in 2006, I was paying 120 mil at the Mansion at an exchange rate of about 2200 or so. So I was paying about $55. In 2022, $55 equates to about 220 mil at an exchange rate of 4000. I usually pay 150 mil plus some for transportation, so I'm paying less now than I was back in 2006. Got to love it!

As far as "girls knowing their value" I am not sure that these girls so-called "high-end" girls really have the kind of value they think. The reality is that you have stupid gringos chasing pussy they could never get in the USA And paying what these girls want without ever bothering to do research to see if the "high end" girl can actually perform well (which often they do not). Their true value is not really much more than the average FB girl. Guys are paying for luck. To say they had a trophy fuck. It's certainly not for performance.

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It's almost as if between the rise of social media and girls able to cut deals with foreigners, ease of accents to Shengen Euro Tourist Visa and girls knowing their value more, the 8's are harder to find in this profession in this city.

I know that this profession is ebys and flows but who knows what will happen in the future. I wonder with inflation if girls rates will finally go up or stay to the prices in CO that they hace been for the past 7 years.


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[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2655020]She is here now, in my bed, sleeping. She is a Web cam model and got off work at 6 AM, and showed up on my doorstep early this morning. I unblocked her a few days after the incident, I don't remember exactly, when she tried to hack my WU account. This is the first time I have seen her since then. I am going out now with my amigo to get a black market WiFi hot spot SD chip for my fone because the Internet signal is so fucking weak at The Nutti. For those of you guys coming here to The Nutti (Nutibara Hotel) PM me after you arrive and I may be able so solve the same problem for you, cheap, if Internet is important to you.

I am leaving her alone in my room. My computer is locked, my true valuables are in the room safe or on me. There is a ton of little stuff she can pilfer but I say she won't and if I am wrong, I don't really care. She will probably sleep the entire time because she was up all night. I told her if she touched any of my things I would dangle her out my eighth story window by her ankles as a warning, and next time I would drop her. I said it in a way just crazy enough that she wonders if I really would. I am crazy. I wouldn't do it because I am not strong enough. Otherwise, I would. Nobody here is strong enough to do it if she was conscious. Remember what I told you about her before, big and muscular and strong..[/QUOTE]Hi,

Could you please help with weak wifi in the nuttibera hotel? Having terrible weak wifi connection and unable to dial into work and getting into trouble.

Need the SD chip you are talking about in your posting.

Can't PM your mail box full.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2655488]Ernest Hemingway wrote in English.[/QUOTE]The quote is directly from the book. The setting is Cuba, The main character of the book is Cuban, So it seems he needed to mix in a little spanish also.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2655526]So true, and whenever someone on this board say's they can function just fine using a translator, they are clueless.

Besides being able to converse with women which takes everything to a totally different level as you have stated, those who can speak some Spanish, can also avoid and diffuse awkward situations which a lot of guys find themselves in when relying on a translator.

I consider myself an intermediate Spanish speaker, I get all the tenses wrong, have problems pronouncing words, and am screwed up on masculine / feminine usage, yet understand probably at least four times more than I can say. As an example, I know the meaning of lots of words, and cannot at times pronounce them correctly, or even remember them, yet when I hear the word being used, I know the meaning of it.

I studied formally at EAFIT for a while, and then had a private tutor for a few months everyday, and it was an eye opener to the language..[/QUOTE]I got sucked into a debate here one time with a monger here who felt it was not necessary to know Spanish to get laid, which I never said. Yes, anyone can come here and fuck around and even have a good time without speaking a word of Spanish, but every bit of Spanish you learn takes it to another level. I got so frustrated in the debate and the time I wasted that I swore off posting responses for several months. But that was my problem, not his.

I would go as far to say even though I am constantly awash in this feeling that my life can't get any better, the single biggest factor that is making it better, is learning Spanish.

My problem now, is that I am having such a good time already it's hard to find the motivation and discipline to undergo formal Spanish instruction. So I am learning by immersion and osmosis. I may be lazy on the Spanish, but I am a Happy Lazy. The penalty will be I am taking longer than I should, but it feels like in the long run that won't bother me because like I said, I am already happier than a pig in shit.

Learning a foreign language has been called single the hardest thing a brain can do. I don't know exactly what that means, but sometimes I think I feel it. I am certainly not a natural at it.

Someone else said, nothing worthwhile doing is easy. When I hear a mongerer say he's not happy here about the pussy here and he doesn't give a shit about learning any Spanish, I think to myself, "he doesn't really want it."

Sounds like you are functionally literate, which is usually around 12,000 words for educated listeners. The "problem" with Medellin is their Spanish is very idiomatic, it has an accent, and the listeners are mostly uneducated, so if you vary even slightly off of what they are used to hearing, they don't even try to understand you, they give up early and quick. In a way that's good, because it forces me to say the words "right", for here.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2655587]When I first started to go to MDE back in 2006, I was paying 120 mil at the Mansion at an exchange rate of about 2200 or so. So I was paying about $55. In 2022, $55 equates to about 220 mil at an exchange rate of 4000. I usually pay 150 mil plus some for transportation, so I'm paying less now than I was back in 2006. Got to love it!

As far as "girls knowing their value" I am not sure that these girls so-called "high-end" girls really have the kind of value they think. The reality is that you have stupid gringos chasing pussy they could never get in the USA And paying what these girls want without ever bothering to do research to see if the "high end" girl can actually perform well (which often they do not). Their true value is not really much more than the average FB girl. Guys are paying for luck. To say they had a trophy fuck. It's certainly not for performance.[/QUOTE]I pay for opportunity, nothing more.

If I'm willing to pay, then the girl already passed my requirements for attractiveness. I can't speak for anyone else, but for me any girl's attractiveness varies depending on my mood. Paying more because one girl is more attractive than another is a losing game, because it sets the bottom limit on price on the day I am most attracted to her.

Paying for performance is a guessing game. There are a lot of factors that go into performance. Even the world elite athletes have bad days. Expecting a working girl to always have her best day, because someone else reported about her skills will often lead to disappointment.

Instead I pay for opportunity. I have an opportunity to get her comfortable and interested. I have the opportunity to coax an excellent performance out of her. I have the opportunity to get to know her and enjoy the entire encounter.

When it's done, if I took the most of the opportunity, I'm satisfied.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2655526]So true, and whenever someone on this board say's they can function just fine using a translator, they are clueless.

Besides being able to converse with women which takes everything to a totally different level as you have stated, those who can speak some Spanish, can also avoid and diffuse awkward situations which a lot of guys find themselves in when relying on a translator.

I consider myself an intermediate Spanish speaker, I get all the tenses wrong, have problems pronouncing words, and am screwed up on masculine / feminine usage, yet understand probably at least four times more than I can say. As an example, I know the meaning of lots of words, and cannot at times pronounce them correctly, or even remember them, yet when I hear the word being used, I know the meaning of it.

I studied formally at EAFIT for a while, and then had a private tutor for a few months everyday, and it was an eye opener to the language..[/QUOTE]I agree with you. Guys come here and think that using the translator is all they need. It's funny in so many ways. First of all, the translators work great for simple 5 word sentences. What time is it?, Where is the bathroom? Is there a barber nearby? Etc.

But try to form a complex sentence and your translator will leave you in the twilight zone. The other problem is girls here (Latinas in general) have a very short attention span. Especially when they are on FB messenger or WhatsApp with 5 other conversations going simultaneously. Needing to copy her sentence and paste it in the translator and then write out a response and copy the translation and paste it into your communication app is going to take a few minutes no matter how fast you are at it. God forbid she uses some abbreviations which might completely confuse your translator. Meanwhile she has gotten 5 other messages and is concentrating on the ones that have quick responses. Translator users? Ever notice how your conversations sometimes stall out? Now you know why.

As to Spanish being difficult. Yes verb conjugation and extra tenses make the language different than English. But there are some big and I mean huge advantages too. In Spanish, letters and consonants have consistent patterns and sounds. Words spell like they sound. Basically if you can spell it you can pronounce it. Think about English for a second. Take the "A" vowel. Sometimes it is silent. Like in boat, moat, coat, float. Some times it is hard like in: mate, hate, fate, bait and other times it is medium like in: father, matter, hat, cat, flat. So to pronounce words perfectly in English you have to know almost all the words. Because there are so many variations and exceptions.

The reason. Is that English is a amalgamation of many languages. Which really makes the language difficult.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2655340]I use a simple rating system which works spectacularly. First a point I think you were making. The 1-10 scale is almost exclusively used here for bragging. Beyond that use it serves almost no purpose.

My rating system is a nested boolean system. It starts with.

1. Do I want to fuck her? If the answer is yes:

2. Is she available for me to fuck? If yes:

3. Can we agree on a price?

That's it. I don't need to worry whether other people want to fuck her, or how much they would pay. It doesn't matter if someone would rate her a 9 and someone else would mark her as a 6. There's no crap about how well she'll perform, because I'll figure that out afterwards.[/QUOTE]I really like this post, thanks. I completely agree but would also add a subroutine to 2, which is: "Is she available to fuck me in the manner I require (BBBJ) ?

I look back on a session and ask myself, "did I get off?" and the affirmative answer doesn't have a lot to do with this whole ratings scale. Sure there is a minimum threshold- but so many other factors come into play in a positive experience. It's been often said but bears repeating that the hottest girls are often the worst lays.

The monger / friend I know who uses the scale a lot and posts on it here often I think sees it as a market research tool- one more data point to map a particular scene and to gauge its economics. The trouble he runs into- the main conclusion that we all seem to agree upon-is that it's largely unreliable because a 10 to some guys is usually a 6 to him, so the datasets will be inevitably compromised or need adjusting to account for this wild deviation. It's a methodology that has some limited use, but should not be part of the primary tool kit. In a sense it might be usable only for one to keep internal tabs rather than as a networked information pool.

Thanks to all you guys for all the great info in this thread! I'll be in Medellin all of February for my first time. Flying in and out of Bogota so I'll probably hang there for 4-7 days and experience their scene first (not to mention Airbnb's seem much cheaper here, maybe seasonal) before hopping a flight down to MDE for the rest of the month. Maybe hitting Carty for a few days at the end of the trip. I'd love to connect with some of you guys while in town!

I did the Colombian Cupid thing and also followed advice here with a new facebook profile and it's honestly hard to keep up with all the messages I get, especially on Cupid. I'm in the states begging 5's and 6's off sugar daddy sites to meet me so I've had to adjust my expectations and my new motto is "If she ain't a dime, she aint worth my time" I say this in my head every time I view a new facebook / CC profile haha. And by dime I really mean at least an 8. I'll probably add Tinder in the next couple days and was debating Seeking but Seeking seems unnecessary at this point.

Currently shopping for Airbnb's. Wanting something for under $50 a day with a nice balcony w great wifi so I can smoke cigars and work from my laptop. It's interesting trying to read between the lines in the descriptions to figure out if they're "guest" friendly or not. I remember reading on here to first book an airbnb for a day and then negotiate with the owner for a longer stay, right? Also, I've found an apartment I think I like in Poblado but it's on the ground floor with no security. I see this as good and bad. No guest fees or hassles but I feel like a bit of a target too. Do you guys know of any spots in Poblado where I could smoke a cigar and get some work done too? I was looking at Laureles but my Spanish sucks (working hard on it though) so I figured I'd just stick to Poblado.

On the topic at hand, I've dabbled with learning Spanish for years and have played around on Duolingo but have really hit it hard the past few weeks with this trip upcoming. I've still got a long way to go but the key is to just enjoy the journey I think. It will take however long it takes. I've jumped around youtube channels and podcasts and trying to watch Netflix in Spanish only but the Language Transfer podcast is currently my favorite. The English language is made up of mostly Latin and German words while Spanish comes from Latin so there are lots of similarities and Language Transfer starts with what you already know in English and builds from there. To Go in Spanish is Voy and we have a similar English word from the same Latin root, Voyage. Also, Confirmation comes from the latin root of Con Firma. With signature. Spanish word for signature is Firma. Confrontation is Con Front. With front aka forehead. Etc etc. So it's not like trying to learn Chinese. You just have to make the connections and you'll learn about 3 k words.

Unless I'm talking out of my ass because I still suck.

[QUOTE=MateoCast98;2655578]Did you part with Scarlett? Or is she also available?[/QUOTE]I was never with Scarlet. I wish I was LOL. Just giving my opinion on what an 8-9 would be in my book. She is a webcam girl but I have partied with her. That's about it.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2655568]So I really, really do not agree that Spanish is the harder language. There they're their. Rough doesn't rhyme rhyme with through and neither rhymes with bough. Tons of silent letters in English where in Spanish you only have one, and it's always silent (unless combined as ch-; 'ch' used to be a separate letter in Spanish, as did 'rr' but the authorities have decided that is no longer true). And then you have lead as in metal and lead as in follow. None of that in Spanish. You can show me a word in Spanish I've never seen before and I can pronounce it correctly. There's rules on what syllable is stressed, and they're quite clear and simple. I would say one thing that's harder about Spanish is the existence of the two past tenses, preterit and imperfect. There is just nothing like that in English. And I guess the masculine vs. Feminine thing. My neighbor is from Macedonia and he said Spanish was easier. My other neighbor said the same thing but she is a native speaker of French and acknowledged that helped.

Regarding the subjunctive in English, it definitely exists but its use is more limited. The most common use is for 'contrary to fact conditions' and that is why 'if I was you,' which you hear all the time, is flat out [B]wrong[/B] It is impossible for you to be me, nor for me to be you. Therefore the subjunctive mood 'were' must be used. 'I would not do that if I were you. ' Another example of the subjunctive in English: 'It is necessary that he go to the store. ' Most native English speakers, though, would probably just say 'he needs to go to the store. ' The first sentence has a change of subject between the independent and dependent clauses and the second one does not, is the difference..[/QUOTE]Especially with regards to pronunciation English is much harder to learn than Spanish. To, too and two rhyme with you, flu, slough, flew and true. Most of us here grew up with English, making every moment of every day a learning opportunity.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2655623]I really like this post, thanks. I completely agree but would also add a subroutine to 2, which is: "Is she available to fuck me in the manner I require (BBBJ) ?

I look back on a session and ask myself, "did I get off?" and the affirmative answer doesn't have a lot to do with this whole ratings scale. Sure there is a minimum threshold- but so many other factors come into play in a positive experience. It's been often said but bears repeating that the hottest girls are often the worst lays.

The monger / friend I know who uses the scale a lot and posts on it here often I think sees it as a market research tool- one more data point to map a particular scene and to gauge its economics. The trouble he runs into- the main conclusion that we all seem to agree upon-is that it's largely unreliable because a 10 to some guys is usually a 6 to him, so the datasets will be inevitably compromised or need adjusting to account for this wild deviation. It's a methodology that has some limited use, but should not be part of the primary tool kit. In a sense it might be usable only for one to keep internal tabs rather than as a networked information pool.[/QUOTE]I disagree that the best looking girls are necessarily the worst performers. I put some of the blame on the man.

I might be generalizing too much here. Many guys, when they get a really hot girl are too eager. They don't establish a mood, and put the girl in the right frame of mind to enjoy the session.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2655526]So true, and whenever someone on this board say's they can function just fine using a translator, they are clueless...[/QUOTE]Haha, I will be one of those that think translator is fine, at least for the first time. But I do think if you want to get to the next level, knowing the language will help a lot as I have seen it first hand. Because not knowing the language well enough, I had date that the girl thought I cancelled and did not show up. I also had date that the girl showed up when I thought she wasn't coming. All the sentences were short, I actually could understand without translator. The problem was the context switching was too quick, or the girl was using slang that had the opposite meaning. I once had to tell the girl that I won't cancel no matter what to avoid any misunderstanding.

[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2655623]...is that it's largely unreliable because a 10 to some guys is usually a 6 to him, so the datasets will be inevitably compromised or need adjusting to account for this wild deviation.[/QUOTE]What others think about his 10? It is possible that others all agree with him when he does not agree with others.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2655568]So I really, really do not agree that Spanish is the harder language. There they're their. Rough doesn't rhyme rhyme with through and neither rhymes with bough.l.[/QUOTE]There are 8 different ways to pronounce '. Ough" in English. It is not a phonetci language, unlike Spanish. So also has way more exceptions to rules. So it is much harder to read and write than Spanish. It also has 1. 000 upon 1. 000's more words. A consequence of its evolution through mergers with Latin, Nordic, French, Germanic.

Yes, Huacho is correct (twice in one week) about subjunctive. It does exist but is often not used / used incorrectly. But its use is more limited than in Spanish.

Another factor that slowed my own learning down is this. Colombia is a hugely noisy country and my hearing is not what it once was. It would be difficult enough to pick up small but important inflections in tone, but impossible in a club with 1. 000 decibels of reggaeton.

Here's one way to compare the two languages' vocabularies: Current editions of the "Diccionario de la Real Academia Española" (the "Dictionary of the Royal Spanish Academy" the closest thing there is to an official list of Spanish vocabulary, has around 88,000 words. In addition, the Academy's list of Americanismos (Americanisms) includes about 70,000 words used in one or more Spanish-speaking countries of Latin America. So to round things off, figure there are around 150,000 "official" Spanish words.

In contrast, the Oxford English Dictionary has about 600,000 words, but that includes words that are no longer in use. It has full definitions of around 230,000 words. The makers of the dictionary estimate that when all is said and done, "there are, at the very least, a quarter of a million distinct English words, excluding inflections, and words from technical and regional vocabulary not covered by the OED, or words not yet added to the published dictionary. ".