Medellin Reports

This popped up on my Facebook feed today. The girl in question has been discussed before. Here's what I know about her:

Unless it's gone downhill from the drugs, she has an incredible body. On a good day she'll give you a full PSE and won't stop until you stop her. She'll do anything bareback.

She'll also rob you blind if given the chance. I would not be surprised if she isn't soon drugging people and robbing them. About 2 years ago she stole a phone from a monger. I attempted to work out a buyback from her to get the phone back for the guy. She wouldn't consider it and said the phone had pictures and videos of her and a hundred other girls.

I suspect these are some of the pictures and videos she is selling. I also suspect that much of what is for sale will break the same laws that put Subway's Jared in jail.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2414234]In your case, your hookers were just being respectful by using "Usted" instead of "Tu" while talking with you.[/QUOTE]The conversation was between the girls. The first one tells the second one that he wants them to go down on each other and asks if that is a problem. The second chick says that is great. It will be wonderful for you to go down on me while he fucks you.

A new FB friend says that she sells photos.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2414315]This popped up on my Facebook feed today. The girl in question has been discussed before. Here's what I know about her:

Unless it's gone downhill from the drugs, she has an incredible body. On a good day she'll give you a full PSE and won't stop until you stop her. She'll do anything bareback.

She'll also rob you blind if given the chance. I would not be surprised if she isn't soon drugging people and robbing them. About 2 years ago she stole a phone from a monger. I attempted to work out a buyback from her to get the phone back for the guy. She wouldn't consider it and said the phone had pictures and videos of her and a hundred other girls.

I suspect these are some of the pictures and videos she is selling. I also suspect that much of what is for sale will break the same laws that put Subway's Jared in jail.[/QUOTE]

God can someone please post the addresses of Loutron and La Isla? Searched everywhere online and all I can find are their general locations (east of Poblado in the mountains somewhere). I know there's a link but I don't have premium access to it.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2414315]This popped up on my Facebook feed today. The girl in question has been discussed before. Here's what I know about her:

Unless it's gone downhill from the drugs, she has an incredible body. On a good day she'll give you a full PSE and won't stop until you stop her. She'll do anything bareback.

She'll also rob you blind if given the chance. I would not be surprised if she isn't soon drugging people and robbing them. About 2 years ago she stole a phone from a monger. I attempted to work out a buyback from her to get the phone back for the guy. She wouldn't consider it and said the phone had pictures and videos of her and a hundred other girls.

I suspect these are some of the pictures and videos she is selling. I also suspect that much of what is for sale will break the same laws that put Subway's Jared in jail.[/QUOTE]I had friend request from the name "Mariana Londoño" claiming to live in Mexico City, so I sent a quick message and she replied that I knew her and I figured out it was her. Since that message though, Facebook has deleted her portion of the message and it says "This message has been temporarily removed because the sender's account requires verification" so FB is onto at least that phony profile of hers. But it shows that she is using different names and different cities to open FB profiles.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2413709]This is a involved question. I don't think I can answer it with a paragraph or two. I'm in heaven, A. K. A Medellin, right now; enjoying myself to the full extent, I don't feel like writing a long response. Maybe after I return to the sex prison, A. K. a the states, I will find time to share my opinion on this topic.[/QUOTE]I can definitely see where you're coming from. Honestly I don't know how you do it.

I confess a to be a bit of hypochondriac so could actually never bring myself to do this. BBBJ is where I draw the line. Been lucky enough to have never caught anything (only two times were actually with non-pros) but I also tend to be very careful. I also never go to a casa without a spray bottle containing hydrogen peroxide. That's a trick that a friend of mine taught me and is actually pretty damn effective in killing germs around your johnson when you don't know when your next shower will be.

I am also very much aware that all of what I just said pretty much guarantees I'll never a threesome! Unless it's with another guy LOL.

How many times do you think you've had sex uncovered this holiday?

I never sessioned with her but prior to all the bad news about her I had conversations via chat. I decided then not to bother with her. Today, after reading about her again, I tried to check her FB page but it is no longer accessible.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2414434]I had friend request from the name "Mariana Londoo" claiming to live in Mexico City, so I sent a quick message and she replied that I knew her and I figured out it was her. Since that message though, Facebook has deleted her portion of the message and it says "This message has been temporarily removed because the sender's account requires verification" so FB is onto at least that phony profile of hers. But it shows that she is using different names and different cities to open FB profiles.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Baudelairemod;2414439]I can definitely see where you're coming from. Honestly I don't know how you do it.

I also never go to a casa without a spray bottle containing hydrogen peroxide. That's a trick that a friend of mine taught me and is actually pretty damn effective in killing germs around your johnson when you don't know when your next shower will be.[/QUOTE]I LOL'ed at this in real life man hahaha.

Currently in MDE. 6 girls in 36 hours or so. 2 SW, it's really just a wham bam ty mam with them. They know it's strictly business. Ill be going to Veracruz in the mornings, it's nice there. Botero gets really hectic in the afternoon, reminds me of the Bronx but poorer and more crowded. Pay for the premier plaza instead of zona Rosa. The latter is 13 k, one shitty towel, rooms hot af, just pay 16 k for better perks at premier plaza.

There is def talent in the SW around Veracruz, just got to scope it out. Both of them were early 20's, paisas, tight bodies. Vennies offering 25 k. The two I got with there 30 k +5 k habitacion.

Yakusa brothel wasn't that bad, a little shack lmao. Sara, 50 k, GFE, DATY DFK. 30 min.

Natalia brothel on calle 49 is realllly nice. About 6 girls in the lineup, all fuckable. Got with sofia, 22 year old, hard 8. GFE, 46 k 30 min. 80 k hour.

Mileroticos is nice, they show faces. There's a brothel on carrera 81 and calle 34, bunch of 18=20 year olds. Got with Andrea, hot but mechanical. 70 k. Then another vennie, idk her name, 60 k for the hour. Total GFE.

Overall IMO this is mongering paradise. Blows Europe out of the water in terms of quality to price. Didn't like conejitas, blue light too dark, girls come around for tips, beers 6 k. Left after a beer. Raudal some really hot spinners but it was a Friday and locals were getting drunk, def don't go here if you don't know Spanish or look gringo IMO.

Cheers,

JW.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2414315]This popped up on my Facebook feed today. The girl in question has been discussed before. Here's what I know about her:

Unless it's gone downhill from the drugs, she has an incredible body. On a good day she'll give you a full PSE and won't stop until you stop her. She'll do anything bareback.

She'll also rob you blind if given the chance. I would not be surprised if she isn't soon drugging people and robbing them. About 2 years ago she stole a phone from a monger. I attempted to work out a buyback from her to get the phone back for the guy. She wouldn't consider it and said the phone had pictures and videos of her and a hundred other girls.

I suspect these are some of the pictures and videos she is selling. I also suspect that much of what is for sale will break the same laws that put Subway's Jared in jail.[/QUOTE]I wonder how she got access to the phone. He must not have had a password on it or auto-lock activated. Could steal my phone but I would just remote wipe the shit so she can't use any of my info. She going to fuck with the wrong person one day and end up regretting it. I guess the moral of the story is lock your shit up.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2414189]Usted IS used among family too. It's just the way they speak there. Doesn't mean formal or distance be between the people talking. Rather than laugh, you should have felt good about it. You may know some Spanish but you don't know or understand the culture which is just as important or more so.[/QUOTE]Exactly! It's normal and common to speak that way in Colombia.

I'm no linguist expert, however, I've seen and heard it now for over 20 years.

Just the way they speak.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2414157]Welcome to the Medellin thread which contains everything under the sun. Basically soup to nuts. And the typical response to a post like this would be, RTFF, and you know what that stands for.

But since this thread has information about Casa's, Strip Clubs, SW's, and everything else you can imagine and not be interested in, you are going to have to go back thru hundreds of posts wherein lies the answers to your questions.[/QUOTE]I've been to Medellin 12 times. Didn't like any FB girls posted here that I saw, wouldn't do any of them. Somebody PM me please.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2414534]Exactly! It's normal and common to speak that way in Colombia.

I'm no linguist expert, however, I've seen and heard it now for over 20 years.

Just the way they speak.[/QUOTE]Well, it depends where you are. Costeños famously use tu for everyone. There was a joke that everyone was telling about the Pope after his visit that involved the phrase (hilarious for Catholics, apparently) of "Tu Merced". "Usted" is a weird word. In school we learned it was a contraction of "vuestra merced". It's only after I studied Arabic that I realized it is 100% the Arabic word for "professor". Personally I use the 2nd person to everyone, regardless of where I am. It's like the metric system. It's better than feet and inches (except maybe in Argentina, where addressing the President as "tu" is a crime!

Using the 3rd person pronoun (erroneously) for the second person can be really confusing, especially if an interlocutor is relating something that happened to a third person. Say "puedes tutearme" if a girl uses the third person with you.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2414360]A new FB friend says that she sells photos.[/QUOTE]I don't get this hustle. A chick tried that on me the other day. Why would I spend money for that when there are already millions on the internet for free?

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2414535]I've been to Medellin 12 times. Didn't like any FB girls posted here that I saw, wouldn't do any of them. Somebody PM me please.[/QUOTE]Search for "[URL]facebook.com[/URL]" or "facebook" and it should yield the list (s) you are looking for. Look for JjBee62 's posts for approach. He answered this many times.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2414552]I don't get this hustle. A chick tried that on me the other day. Why would I spend money for that when there are already millions on the internet for free?[/QUOTE]A. Because they think you are perhaps foolish enough to bite.

B. Because they are without other means.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2414573]Search for "[URL]facebook.com[/URL]" or "facebook" and it should yield the list (s) you are looking for. Look for JjBee62 's posts for approach. He answered this many times.[/QUOTE]Will do thanks Nounce.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2414402]God can someone please post the addresses of Loutron and La Isla? Searched everywhere online and all I can find are their general locations (east of Poblado in the mountains somewhere). I know there's a link but I don't have premium access to it.[/QUOTE]Almost any taxi driver will know La Isla. There's also a search light beacon coming from the place every night. Loutron I've some how missed over the years. Planning to see it though.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2414576]A. Because they think you are perhaps foolish enough to bite.

B. Because they are without other means.[/QUOTE]I get all I can do is say no. What I don't get is why another guy would say yes.

Meanwhile, my nurse chick in Bogota sends me tons of unsolictied nekkit selfies damn near everyday. She sends way more nekkit pics that other people send regular pics. She definitely has an addiction. I want to tell her to cut that shit out. There is something called too much of a good thing. Who does she think has time to look at 30 pictures of her nekkit everyday?

First of all, I want to thank everyone who helped me prepare and research for my trip. I have a ton to report but only a little time so I'm going to do it in parts. Not looking to be yelled at, I know I made a bunch of mistakes but it is my first trip to Medellin so I'm still learning. Constructive feedback welcomed though. I will preface everything with the fact that I am an Asian kid that speaks almost no Spanish so that may be the source of a lot of my issues.

TLDR: Conjitas barra executivo and 7/10 first day in Medellin.

OK so to start I landed last Sunday. Saw some super cute girls at the airport so was immediately excited. Got picked up by airport service with the mansion. The mansion rooms are pretty nice but nothing to write home about. Best part was the giant mirror facing the bed. Saw a semi cute girl when I walked in (7-8) but she was with someone and I already had plans to meet up with another forum member this day. Ubered to his hotel in el centro and we started our day (4 pm ish at this point). First things first? We stopped at an ATM and I took out cash (came out to about 3000/1 after fees). Then went to a claro stand and bought a SIM card and 2 gb data for 20 mill. Much better than paying 10 $ usd a day for international roaming. So then we Walked around the park and church looking at streetwalkers. Walked around for probably 30 minutes but didn't see any that I liked. To be honest, I think the street walkers were probably a little hardcore for me since I'm pretty new to the mongering game. Then we decided to go check out conjitas strip club. Sat down and paid 20 mil for a pitcher of beer. Club was pretty empty, maybe 7 girls at the club. We finished the pitcher and I picked a girl I thought was an 8. 100 k for the hour and she brings me back. I tell my friend he doesn't have to wait for me if he's got stuff to do. Get to the back room and in the light (club was pretty dark) she turns out to be a little older and less cute than I thought but still above average (6. 5 or 7). Service was OK. Light kissing, moaning. No complaints. Was happy about my first session. Definitely didn't need the whole hour though. Go back down to the club to find my friend still finishing his first beer after the pitcher LOL. Guess he didn't need to wait all that long. He scheduled a session with a fb chick while he was waiting for later that night. We decide to check out barra executivo strip club while he waits for his fb girl. The club was only 10 minutes away walking but seemed like a worse part of town. Walk in and we order a beer and a water. Came out to 27 k (much more than conjitas). Club was still pretty quite at this point (7 phish) and girls were meh, maybe 1-2 cute ones and a lot of thick ones (not really into thick girls no offense). Being the hornball I am. It doesn't take long for me to find another girl I thought was cute. This club was better lit so I could see the girl well enough. I called her over and we started chatting using google translate. She was saying all the right stuff (about how wet she was and how she wasn't wearing panties and needed me inside her) so sure enough 15 minutes later, she convinced me to go with her. 100 k and she was at least a 7 so sure why not. The back room is through a door in the men's bathroom LOL and On the way there, she reaches into the ceiling and pulls out a blunt roach LOL. I've been in HS smoking mids before so who am I to judge. We get to the room and she completely changes her attitude. Was not very into the sex at all and would be smoking, putting out, and relighting the blunt while I'm pounding her. Still came though but not a great session. Overall I liked conjitas much better but obviously it is a really small sample size. At this point, my friend had left to meet with his fb girl so I uber back to the mansion (8:30 pmish). We were planning on meeting up later that night to check out Parque lleras but we were both exhausted so I ended up streaming the packers Seahawks game and ordering Chinese food (30 mil for a enormous thing of fried rice and half a fried chicken) and calling it a night. To be continued.

BTW feel free to PM me for more details about anything. Or let me know if I'm including too much shit you guys don't care about LOL. First time reporting so not sure what to include and how much detail is appropriate.

Heading down for 3 weeks in March for my first time. Staying at Blux. I usually pick the places I travel to for these three reasons: women, food and / or locally grown weed. Curious if anyone has found high quality outdoor cannabis in Medellin / surrounding areas and has a connection to share. PM if you can help. Thanks!

Breakfast is apparently included at the mansion from like 7-8:30 or 9:30 but I missed it both days I was here. Not upset about it though since I normally don't eat breakfast at home. Scheduled a session with ieraldin Gomez from fb for 11 am. She arrived a little late (as expected, apparently it's a Colombian thing to not be very punctual). She told me she was at the end of her period and still had a little blood but I figured I'the have a condom on so whatever, told her to come over anyways. She arrives and she is pretty close to her fb profile. Slightly less attractive but still pretty solid (7. 5, hotter if she used makeup for sure) Very petite girl. Had a see section to remove her kid and has the scar. A bit of a turnoff but not even close to the worst part of this story. Let me preface this part with the fact that I am not super well endowed so this is not my ego talking LOL. I like to think I'm average sized but if I'm being honest, I'm probably slightly below average. But this girl was insanely tight. When I tried to put it in, it was hard to fit and she started complaining it hurt. She asked if I had lube and I did not so what am I supposed to do. Well if you can probably see where this is going and if you guessed I ate her period pussy out to get it wet, you're right. She wasn't lying about the fact that it was at the end of her period and it was only a little bloody (maybe medium well). Couldn't see any blood but could definitely taste it a little. But I plowed on through cause Mommy didn't raise a quitter (besides on everything else I've quit). After 5 minutes of this, I put my dick back in. Still super tight but no more complaints. Fucked her in multiple positions. One thing I'll note is I've always thought and still think I'm into petite girls but I find a big problem is that a lot of them have pretty bony asses so it kinda hurts my pelvis when I'm banging them doggystyle. Maybe it's my fault and I'm doing it wrong but does this happen to anyone else? Or any advice?

Anyways I cum and we start hanging out. I brought my weed pen from America so we were hitting that. I also noticed though that she kept sniffing a bottle of something called PG2. Anyone know what this is? Someone said they think she was sniffing glue but idk. She had what looked like the original iPod turned into a phone so she kept using my phone to take pictures of herself. She wanted to go down to the pool to take more pictures so I obliged and I probably have a camera reel of like 30-50 pictures of her that she posted to her fb. She tried to put up pics with me in it but I had her take them down. Then we ordered food from Rappi, ate and I was all ready to go again. Don't remember anything crazy from the second round. Paid her 150 k plus taxi and she was on her way. Overall, she was very accommodating and nice but there were a couple things that were turnoffs (mostly not her fault). Would recommend to a friend but would not repeat.

After she left, I set up a session with another fb girl Emily Torres II for later that night. In the meantime, I decided to go to the Cambio at the mall down the hill and change some of the usd I brought over. Got it at 3160/1 so a much better deal than from the ATM. Walked around the mall a bit and ate some sushi at the food court. Wasn't great sushi but I take blame for this since I just ordered a roll at random rather than taking the time to translate what was in each roll. Seems like Colombian love sushi with creme cheese in it and mine was fried. Pretty cheap though (6 pieces for like 8 mill). I prefer not to eat too much before sessions. So I head back home and wait for Emily to arrive. We had agreed to 200 k for 2-3 hours while chatting. She arrives at 9 pm and looks way different than her fb profile picture. This is my fault though cause if you scroll through the rest of her pictures, she looks more similar. But she was chubbier and older than those pictures. A bunch of baby fat. But she was already here so I wasn't going to not fuck. We start talking with google translate, I give her a beer and she says she can only stay for 1 hour. I told her we agreed to 2-3 and if she was only staying for 1 hour, I'the only give her 100 k. We argue for a little and she says okay fine I will stay for 2-3 hours. I was secretly hoping she'the just accept the 100 k for 1 hour since I was not very attracted to her. Anyways, we have sex, nothing great. And I decide ID rather just send her home than spend more time with her and fucking her again (she wasn't annoying or anything. I just wasn't attracted to her and she wasn't great at sex, very motionless). So I pay her the 200 k + taxi and send her home. Apparently though, this girl has a sister so there's a chance I got the sister instead? Either way, I wouldn't risk it if she's willing to pull that.

I sadly order rappi and go to bed (cause I had a small dinner but it was fucking up my eating schedule cause that's 2 days in a row I ate at like 11 pm.

TLDR: Had a Bloody Mary for breakfast. Ieraldin Gomez (7/10 session better than strip club experiences). Would recommend but not repeat. Lack of research lead to a wasted night. Emily Torres II (4/10 looks 3/10 service) would not recommend.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2414535]I've been to Medellin 12 times. Didn't like any FB girls posted here that I saw, wouldn't do any of them. Somebody PM me please.[/QUOTE]I don't understand how anyone couldn't find a girl on Facebook who they find attractive. I can understand not wanting to use Facebook, but can't see not being able to find someone you like there. It's like walking into the first casa, not seeing anyone you want and deciding there are no good women in Medellin.

I stopped building my Facebook list about 18 months ago. I'll still add one or two, but I don't need to work on it. It contains girls who range from 18-40. There are all natural girls, girls with boob and butt jobs, skinny girls, chubby girls, freaky girls, girl next door girls, models, nurses, manicurists. There's big boobs, flat chests, long hair, short hair, pink hair. Pretty much anything you could want. I don't have any serious gorditas, because I don't want them, but I know where to find a few of them.

I don't share my list, because that always seems to cause problems for me. However, if you go to the General thread, I recently wrote a step by step guide to getting started on Facebook.

Treat it just like the casas. If you don't find what you're looking for, keep looking.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2414597]I get all I can do is say no. What I don't get is why another guy would say yes.

Meanwhile, my nurse chick in Bogota sends me tons of unsolictied nekkit selfies damn near everyday. She sends way more nekkit pics that other people send regular pics. She definitely has an addiction. I want to tell her to cut that shit out. There is something called too much of a good thing. Who does she think has time to look at 30 pictures of her nekkit everyday?[/QUOTE]I got to check out Bogota!

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2414600]Go back down to the club to find my friend still finishing his first beer after the pitcher LOL. Guess he didn't need to wait all that long. He scheduled a session with a fb chick while he was waiting for later that night. [/QUOTE]How did he get a signal down in that dungeon?

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2414600]She was saying all the right stuff (about how wet she was and how she wasn't wearing panties and needed me inside her) so sure enough 15 minutes later, she convinced me to go with her. 100 k and she was at least a 7 so sure why not. We get to the room and she completely changes her attitude. Was not very into the sex at all and would be smoking, putting out, and relighting the blunt while I'm pounding her.[/QUOTE]Remember an empty wagon makes the most noise. A chick will say anything to get you to the room. DON'T choose a chick that you think is saying all the right things. It is a trap. For this reason I don't need talking and I don't need any interviews. Choose a chick that will sit there and wait patiently without trying to fill you with bullshit.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2414613]She arrives and she is pretty close to her fb profile. Slightly less attractive but still pretty solid... She arrives at 9 pm and looks way different than her fb profile [/quote]Why not get them to send you normal fotos or cam with them, instead of juat going off what you see on facebook?

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2414613](One thing I'll note is I've always thought and still think I'm into petite girls but I find a big problem is that a lot of them have pretty bony asses so it kinda hurts my pelvis when I'm banging them doggystyle. Maybe it's my fault and I'm doing it wrong but does this happen to anyone else?[/QUOTE]YES! That is why you will hardly see me boning a skeleton. I need a girl that has some cushion back there.

That's surprising. I guess I'm use to Thailand but it's usually the pretty girls that sit there detached and wait for you to approach them and they end up being terrible while the slightly less attractive girls work to get your attention cause they are more desperate. Guess it's just different in Colombia.

As far as asking the girl to send me pictures. I wasn't even smart enough to look at her pictures on Facebook LOL. Just see a hot blonde profile picture and my dick made the rest of my decisions LOL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2414645]How did he get a signal down in that dungeon?

Remember an empty wagon makes the most noise. A chick will say anything to get you to the room. DON'T choose a chick that you think is saying all the right things. It is a trap. For this reason I don't need talking and I don't need any interviews. Choose a chick that will sit there and wait patiently without trying to fill you with bullshit.

Why not get them to send you normal fotos or cam with them, instead of juat going off what you see on facebook?

YES! That is why you will hardly see me boning a skeleton. I need a girl that has some cushion back there.[/QUOTE]

Day 3.

Had a lazy morning this day since I had to check out of the mansion and to an Airbnb in Laureles. Very sweet old lady at the front desk. Gave her some chocolates to hopefully not have any issues with chicas. Didn't end up bringing any chicas in due to cancellations / poor planning but saw other guests at the apartment complex signing girls in. Unsure of guest fee but the air bnb message said no extra charge.

Decided to check out new life casa in centro (far I know but ubers are cheap, never more than 12 mil). I'm a big fan of how this casa works. It is a pay as you go so the girl is actually incentivized to try to keep you there longer and make the sex / massage last longer. Think prices were 50 k for half 75 for 45 min and 90 for an hour. The pimp paraded out the lineup of 10-15 chicas. Picked out Daniella. Late 20's / early 30's, big fake titties that were still surprisingly soft (guess she already had decent size tits before the implants) and a big (maybe fake) butt but still pretty skinny. Would call her a 7 (probably 9 when she was younger). We showered together and then she started she got to business. Don't remember if it was BBBJ or CBJ but remembered it being a solid BJ. Then we moved onto sex and they had this chair like contraption they use for cowgirl and reverse cowgirl where you lie down on it and it's thin enough that the girl can get both legs around you and have her feet on the ground. Sorta like a thin pool chair that's laid most of the way back. But was a big fan of this chair, it lets you do cowgirl and be sitting upright enough to suck on her tits and make out with her while she's riding you. Came after half an hour and asked her to massage me. I love getting my legs massaged after sex. It reminds me of rolling after the gym. But she finished the massage, ended up being 90 k, tipped her an extra 20 since she did a good job. One thing that surprised me was I also bought a Gatorade from the pimp during the lineup and he told me to pay for it together at the end. After I paid at the end, I didn't realize it was already included in my payment so I paid the pimp another 6 mil for the Gatorade. Then as I'm walking away from the casa, the pimp actually chases me down to let me know I already paid for the Gatorade and return my 6 mil. So big bonus points for being a good guy that's not trying to rip off gringos.

Went to Mondongos for lunch since it's recommended as a must eat by google. Classic Colombian food with gigantic servings. I got the fried fish for 30 mil and it was big enough that I only ate a little over half and I am a 240 pound high kid for reference. Then walked 5 minutes to a weed ice cream shop. They sell a chocolate flavor and a lemon flavor of weed infused ice cream for 6 mil (9 for a large). I asked how that was possibly legal and the owner said when police come, she just gives them a free scoop and they love it LOL. Good enough for me. I think the chocolate tasted better / hid the weed better than the lemon. Feel free to PM me for more details but you should be able to find it on google easily enough. It's the only weed ice cream shop in Medellin.

Had a session planned with a Facebook girl but she ended up canceling on me so my night opened up. Decided to go to el cielo for their 13 course tasting menu. Ended up costing around 260 k. Personally I didn't think it was worth the price. The food was pretty experimental and had a bunch of things that tasted weird. I will note that I don't eat a lot of fancy food so it may just be my ignorant palate wasn't advanced enough to handle it LOL. But I somehow left the 13 course tasting menu not full. Got home to my airbnb and got a burger from a street lady on the way. Great 3/3 nights of eating junk food at 11 pm.

TLDR: would recommend pay as you go new life casa. Found a weed ice cream shop that was a 2 minute walk from my apartment. Chill night doing a tasting menu (possibly related to the weed ice cream).

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2414597]I get all I can do is say no. What I don't get is why another guy would say yes.

Meanwhile, my nurse chick in Bogota sends me tons of unsolictied nekkit selfies damn near everyday. She sends way more nekkit pics that other people send regular pics. She definitely has an addiction. I want to tell her to cut that shit out. There is something called too much of a good thing. Who does she think has time to look at 30 pictures of her nekkit everyday?[/QUOTE]What is a nekkit selfie? 🤪

Woke up horny after not fucking the previous night so I shot off like 15 messages to milerotic ads seeing who would respond first. The 2 things I searched for were 18 yo(cause I found that it seems like the younger ones who aren't jaded yet perform better instead of the older experienced ones surprisingly) and promocion since a lot of ads were doing 60 mil an hour promos. Seems like there are a lot of mini casas in Laureles near my apartment so I started to form a plan in my head to tour them all. One finally messaged me back around 10 am and I was on my way. I get to her apartment and I'm met at the door by 2 girls that look very similar and I can't tell which one I was talking to LOL. They are older than advertised (maybe mid 20's) but still fairly attractive (maybe 7's). They proceed to tell me that they only do 3 somes (weird) but their 3rd friend who just walked out does solos. I am weary of 3 somes with girls I haven't tried before. I decide to go with their friend who is a little overweight (5.5-6 ish). I probably would've walked out in normal circumstances but nobody else had responded to me and I was horny that morning from skipping the night before.

This is where things get interesting. She gives me an incredible BJ with condom. Then she proceeds to start making out hardcore with me while riding me. Sucking on my lips so hard I thought I was going to get a lip hickey. Moaning the whole time, she was super into it, made me forget she was a prostitute. After I nut, she cleans me up then tries to "upsell" me. She offers me a BBBJ for another 20 mil. I'm thinking LOL if she thinks she can get me hard and make me cum right now I'll gladly give her an extra 20 mil. Sure enough, she gets to work and sure enough she got me cumming in her mouth like 15 minutes later. We spent the remainder of the time laying there making out. Tipped her an extra 20 k for the great service. Came out to 100 k for 2 shots, BBBJCIM for the second. Would recommend and as you'll see, would repeat. Also, at one point, I asked to use the bathroom and she opens the door to check for people and I saw another monger come in for the other 2 girls. I'm guessing the other 2 already had a 3 some scheduled with someone so they were going to see if they could double dip with me and make him wait.

This is also the day I found out about menu del Dias. They are basically lunch specials from 12-3 pm. A ton of modern restaurants do a 4-5 course menu with a soup, salad, drink, main course, and dessert for 10-15 mil. It's a great deal and there's a lot of good restaurants that do it. Would highly recommend.

Had session with the girl that canceled on me the night before planned for 8 pm. Surprise surprise, she cancels on me again so I message the 3 some girl from earlier asking if she was free and willing to do solo (figured the only did 3 somes was a lie. Lots of lying WG in Colombia). She said yes so I head over to her place. I get into her apartment and she's not there LOL (guessing she double booked me again and was already with someone) so I decide to repeat with the girl I had earlier. This time she starts with BBBJ and is even more into the sex and making out. I was fingering her while she was giving me a BJ and she was soaking through her panties. 2 shots later, I'm laying there exhausted. I pay her 80 mil and leave. Another great session. At this point, I learned that service is so much important than looks. At one point, she offered me anal for another 50 mil and I passed at the time. Might go back for it since I know she has really good service and I've never done it before. I go back to my apartment and order some Colombian food from rappi and go to sleep. 4/4 nights ordering late night food.

TLDR: I learned that service is more important than looks.

More to come tomorrow. Going to guatape so I'll have a 2 hour bus ride to write the rest of the reports.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2414613]
TLDR: Had a Bloody Mary for breakfast. Ieraldin Gomez (7/10 session better than strip club experiences). Would recommend but not repeat. Lack of research lead to a wasted night. Emily Torres II (4/10 looks 3/10 service) would not recommend.[/QUOTE]It's a nice report. Do you not see any chicas or mongers at Mansion?

Thank you buddy, especially for feedback about chicks.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2414613]
TLDR: Had a Bloody Mary for breakfast. Ieraldin Gomez (7/10 session better than strip club experiences). Would recommend but not repeat. Lack of research lead to a wasted night. Emily Torres II (4/10 looks 3/10 service) would not recommend.[/QUOTE]

So I have been to Colombia various times and have a blast always. I wanted to know if anyone here has been to Colombia as well as panama. I wanted to visit two spots for my upcoming trip in month.

I am definitely going to Cuba for mainly non-mongering activities. Is Colombia as good as usual? Or is a visit to Panama to get a different change of scenery and ladies there worth it?

Thanks,

J.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2414698]It's a nice report. Do you not see any chicas or mongers at Mansion?[/QUOTE]Saw a couple girls at the mansion on Sunday night but none were above a 7. And Monday night, I had given up already after Emily and was ready for bed so didn't see anyone. Nobody there in the daytime though. Apparently I went on the 2 least busy days at the mansion so may need to do a Friday / Saturday to actually compare but from my experience, it's not worth the price.

I have been with both and Ieraldin is super super tight. I am on the larger size so it took a while to get in there. She told I was her first right after her baby was born which was about 3 weeks before I met her and she was still crazy tight. We took a lot of pictures. LOL.

Emily I met on my last trip also she was new to the game but she has potential, she has the quiet mouse personality to her. But still learning the ropes. She is really nice either way.

Glad you re having fun so far.

Avoid Gusto unless you want to over pay and crappy mechanical service.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2414613]Breakfast is apparently included at the mansion from like 7-8:30 or 9:30 but I missed it both days I was here. Not upset about it though since I normally don't eat breakfast at home. Scheduled a session with ieraldin Gomez from fb for 11 am. She arrived a little late (as expected, apparently it's a Colombian thing to not be very punctual). She told me she was at the end of her period and still had a little blood but I figured I'the have a condom on so whatever, told her to come over anyways. She arrives and she is pretty close to her fb profile. Slightly less attractive but still pretty solid (7. 5, hotter if she used makeup for sure) Very petite girl. Had a see section to remove her kid and has the scar. A bit of a turnoff but not even close to the worst part of this story. Let me preface this part with the fact that I am not super well endowed so this is not my ego talking LOL. I like to think I'm average sized but if I'm being honest, I'm probably slightly below average. But this girl was insanely tight. When I tried to put it in, it was hard to fit and she started complaining it hurt. She asked if I had lube and I did not so what am I supposed to do. Well if you can probably see where this is going and if you guessed I ate her period pussy out to get it wet, you're right. She wasn't lying about the fact that it was at the end of her period and it was only a little bloody (maybe medium well). Couldn't see any blood but could definitely taste it a little. But I plowed on through cause Mommy didn't raise a quitter (besides on everything else I've quit). After 5 minutes of this, I put my dick back in. Still super tight but no more complaints. Fucked her in multiple positions. One thing I'll note is I've always thought and still think I'm into petite girls but I find a big problem is that a lot of them have pretty bony asses so it kinda hurts my pelvis when I'm banging them doggystyle. Maybe it's my fault and I'm doing it wrong but does this happen to anyone else? Or any advice?

Anyways I cum and we start hanging out. I brought my weed pen from America so we were hitting that. I also noticed though that she kept sniffing a bottle of something called PG2. Anyone know what this is? Someone said they think she was sniffing glue but idk. She had what looked like the original iPod turned into a phone so she kept using my phone to take pictures of herself. She wanted to go down to the pool to take more pictures so I obliged and I probably have a camera reel of like 30-50 pictures of her that she posted to her fb. She tried to put up pics with me in it but I had her take them down. Then we ordered food from Rappi, ate and I was all ready to go again. Don't remember anything crazy from the second round. Paid her 150 k plus taxi and she was on her way. Overall, she was very accommodating and nice but there were a couple things that were turnoffs (mostly not her fault). Would recommend to a friend but would not repeat.

After she left, I set up a session with another fb girl Emily Torres II for later that night. In the meantime, I decided to go to the Cambio at the mall down the hill and change some of the usd I brought over. Got it at 3160/1 so a much better deal than from the ATM. Walked around the mall a bit and ate some sushi at the food court. Wasn't great sushi but I take blame for this since I just ordered a roll at random rather than taking the time to translate what was in each roll. Seems like Colombian love sushi with creme cheese in it and mine was fried. Pretty cheap though (6 pieces for like 8 mill). I prefer not to eat too much before sessions. So I head back home and wait for Emily to arrive. We had agreed to 200 k for 2-3 hours while chatting. She arrives at 9 pm and looks way different than her fb profile picture. This is my fault though cause if you scroll through the rest of her pictures, she looks more similar. But she was chubbier and older than those pictures. A bunch of baby fat. But she was already here so I wasn't going to not fuck. We start talking with google translate, I give her a beer and she says she can only stay for 1 hour. I told her we agreed to 2-3 and if she was only staying for 1 hour, I'the only give her 100 k. We argue for a little and she says okay fine I will stay for 2-3 hours. I was secretly hoping she'the just accept the 100 k for 1 hour since I was not very attracted to her. Anyways, we have sex, nothing great. And I decide ID rather just send her home than spend more time with her and fucking her again (she wasn't annoying or anything. I just wasn't attracted to her and she wasn't great at sex, very motionless). So I pay her the 200 k + taxi and send her home. Apparently though, this girl has a sister so there's a chance I got the sister instead? Either way, I wouldn't risk it if she's willing to pull that.

I sadly order rappi and go to bed (cause I had a small dinner but it was fucking up my eating schedule cause that's 2 days in a row I ate at like 11 pm.

TLDR: Had a Bloody Mary for breakfast. Ieraldin Gomez (7/10 session better than strip club experiences). Would recommend but not repeat. Lack of research lead to a wasted night. Emily Torres II (4/10 looks 3/10 service) would not recommend.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2414600]First of all, I want to thank everyone who helped me prepare and research for my trip. I have a ton to report but only a little time so I'm going to do it in parts. Not looking to be yelled at, I know I made a bunch of mistakes but it is my first trip to Medellin so I'm still learning. Constructive feedback welcomed though. I will preface everything with the fact that I am an Asian kid that speaks almost no Spanish so that may be the source of a lot of my issues.

TLDR: Conjitas barra executivo and 7/10 first day in Medellin.

OK so to start I landed last Sunday. Saw some super cute girls at the airport so was immediately excited. Got picked up by airport service with the mansion. The mansion rooms are pretty nice but nothing to write home about. Best part was the giant mirror facing the bed. Saw a semi cute girl when I walked in (7-8) but she was with someone and I already had plans to meet up with another forum member this day. Ubered to his hotel in el centro and we started our day (4 pm ish at this point). First things first? We stopped at an ATM and I took out cash (came out to about 3000/1 after fees). Then went to a claro stand and bought a SIM card and 2 gb data for 20 mill. Much better than paying 10 $ usd a day for international roaming. So then we Walked around the park and church looking at streetwalkers. Walked around for probably 30 minutes but didn't see any that I liked. To be honest, I think the street walkers were probably a little hardcore for me since I'm pretty new to the mongering game. Then we decided to go check out conjitas strip club. Sat down and paid 20 mil for a pitcher of beer. Club was pretty empty, maybe 7 girls at the club. We finished the pitcher and I picked a girl I thought was an 8. 100 k for the hour and she brings me back. I tell my friend he doesn't have to wait for me if he's got stuff to do. Get to the back room and in the light (club was pretty dark) she turns out to be a little older and less cute than I thought but still above average (6. 5 or 7). Service was OK. Light kissing, moaning. No complaints. Was happy about my first session. Definitely didn't need the whole hour though..[/QUOTE]Where is most fun, el centro, parque Lleras, strip clubs (mansion, false dos), prepagados. Anyone Please chime in. Trying to decide should I stay in Laureles to position myself in the middle or stay in Poblado.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2414614]I stopped building my Facebook list about 18 months ago. I'll still add one or two, but I don't need to work on it. It contains girls who range from 18-40. There are all natural girls, girls with boob and butt jobs, skinny girls, chubby girls, freaky girls, girl next door girls, models, nurses, manicurists. There's big boobs, flat chests, long hair, short hair, pink hair. Pretty much anything you could want. I don't have any serious gorditas, because I don't want them, but I know where to find a few of them.[/QUOTE]Your list is somewhat limited. No pregnant or previously pregnant girls, no glue sniffers, no deaf, deaf mute, or mute only girls, no one eyed girls, no one legged girls, or any midgets. I suppose if these types aren't readily available on Fay Boo, they can definitely be found in El Centro, however I haven't seen a midget there in a while.

Falling into a nice routine here.

Wake up, cig and coffee, bunuelos, empanadas, empty bowels.

Hit Veracruz, man it is hot as fuck. Took this 18 year old Colombian spinner, maybe 100 lbs, behind the iglesia. 30 k rato, 10 k room.

Couldn't cum, these SW are strictly business man. When they fake it, it is really hard to get into it and finish. Still, $13 to fuck hot 18 year olds, she was a solid 8, is a novelty.

Headed over to yakusa again as it was too hot to walk towards the other casas lmao.

Took Natalia, 22 Y. O vennie, perfect ass, no fat, GFE DFK. Came good. 46 k 30 min, gave her 4 k tip cause why not.

Drank some beers with these old paisas next to raudal, they're a riot. Headed over to centro mall next to berrio, nice bandeja paisa for 16 k. Went back to the room, 3 hour nap. Crashed hard.

Met this prepago for 90 k at like 7 pm, I couldn't even get hard. Her body was banging but her face was like a 5. Note to self don't meet up unless they show face online.

I couldn't get hard, fuck my life right.

So to salvage the night took a sidenufilo or the generic Viagra whatever theyre called and went to a mileroticos girl, vennie for 60 k. Total GFE, sweating buckets fucking her in all positions, 69, but I couldn't cum! I think it was the beers earlier. Went to eat some arepas on carr. 70.

So it's 1130 pm and I have to salvage the night. Hit up another vennie on mileroticos, 60 k for the hour. Man this is total GFE. Ironically theyre in the same spa place on carr 81. Front door man laughs when he sees me again.

20 year old spinner, Sabrina, DFK, maybe 100 lbs, fat ass. Idk what these venies are eating but man she was so tight. Straight animal fucking for an hour and came really hard. She almost fell asleep laying w / me after.

So far, the vennies are muchhhhhh better than the paisas in terms of service. Maybe they need it more, idk?

Also, the casas service has been excellent so far, for 50 k it's worth just spending the extra 10 k instead of a SW IMO for the service. Again, YMMV, not all of us look the same, act the same, etc.

Going to check out other casas today, maybe paris or amigas or Barcelona. Also take half of the Viagra stuff because a full one gives a splitting headache.

Cheers.

JW.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2414613]But this girl was insanely tight. When I tried to put it in, it was hard to fit and she started complaining it hurt. She asked if I had lube and I did not so what am I supposed to do. Well if you can probably see where this is going and if you guessed I ate her period pussy out to get it wet, you're right. She wasn't lying about the fact that it was at the end of her period and it was only a little bloody (maybe medium well). Couldn't see any blood but could definitely taste it a little. But I plowed on through cause Mommy didn't raise a quitter (besides on everything else I've quit).[/QUOTE]Well I'm not sure if I believe what you wrote here, but I believe you. I think you have knowingly, versus un-knowingly done what very few others would do in this situation. Regardless, great posts thus far, keep them coming as they are very entertaining.

I thanked you, but I have to critique you a little too.

If you are at the mansion, why are you banging regular FB chicks. How are the mansion chicks? Tell us about them!

Always keep lube on hand because.

1. Dry pussies cause condoms to break easily!

2. So you don't have to eat period pussies or actually any pussy you don't want to eat.

3. Pussy can dry up at any moment. But that doesn't mean you have to stop. Just throw on some lube.

If you think her pussy is tight, try her ass LOL. And if your dick is below average, they will likely agree easily! Unlike in my case.

Keep the reviews coming! Thanks again for the feedback on the girls and ATM.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2414613]Breakfast is apparently included at the mansion from like 7-8:30 or 9:30 but I missed it both days I was here. Not upset about it though since I normally don't eat breakfast at home. Scheduled a session with ieraldin Gomez from fb for 11 am. She arrived a little late (as expected, apparently it's a Colombian thing to not be very punctual). She told me she was at the end of her period and still had a little blood but I figured I'the have a condom on so whatever, told her to come over anyways. She arrives and she is pretty close to her fb profile. Slightly less attractive but still pretty solid (7. 5, hotter if she used makeup for sure) Very petite girl. Had a see section to remove her kid and has the scar. A bit of a turnoff but not even close to the worst part of this story. Let me preface this part with the fact that I am not super well endowed so this is not my ego talking LOL. I like to think I'm average sized but if I'm being honest, I'm probably slightly below average. But this girl was insanely tight. When I tried to put it in, it was hard to fit and she started complaining it hurt. She asked if I had lube and I did not so what am I supposed to do. Well if you can probably see where this is going and if you guessed I ate her period pussy out to get it wet, you're right. She wasn't lying about the fact that it was at the end of her period and it was only a little bloody (maybe medium well)..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2414594]Almost any taxi driver will know La Isla. There's also a search light beacon coming from the place every night. Loutron I've some how missed over the years. Planning to see it though.[/QUOTE]I recommend. A little pricey (300 k / HR) but the lineup of Paisas are pretty tasty (at least when I was there).

Loutron is a former compound owned by Pablo. It sits up on a hill. No way I could tell you how to find it, but it is popular, shouldn't be too hard to find a driver to take you.

Gentlemen,

My first post. Truth. I have contributed nothing at this point, but plan to in the near future. I am in absorption mode, trying to soak up as much wisdom as I can before making my first trek to Medellin later this Spring. I can't tell you all how much I appreciate the time and knowledge you all have shared. I've read the last 2 1/2 years of posts and still going. And I feel like I kinda know many of you. And I know many of you I'd like to meet, have a beer, and share war stories. Still, I sometimes wonder more about where you're coming from. I can usually get a bit of an idea of background. Some of you share that in your reports. But it's also a little ambiguous at times. Experience tells me some mongers tend to be very private. Which I totally respect. But we're all sharing here. And knowing just some basics about you would add some great context to the posts you write. As for me, here's some info.

Age: 52 - could pass for early 40's in the right light.

Status: Single, divorced.

Build: Athletic. I kinda workout but really just blessed with good metabolism.

Looks: maybe a 7 ? - blue eyes help, but nothing special.

Monger experience: about 20 years. Mostly in the US, though I haven't been very active in the past 5 - was deep in the middle of the Dallas scene in the internet boom, good times.

Spanish level. Nil, unfortunately. But very willing to learn and hoping to get by with Google Translate.

Real job. Software analytics. Not thrilling, but pays the bills and the ladies.

Hobbies: Fucking GFE beauties, very active in the stock market (part-time day trader), golf.

Preferences: think I'm more of a Facebook / Gusto guy vs casas / centro, but I'm sure I'll try it all.

So how about it? Sound off!

[QUOTE=Rextor;2414402]God can someone please post the addresses of Loutron and La Isla? Searched everywhere online and all I can find are their general locations (east of Poblado in the mountains somewhere). I know there's a link but I don't have premium access to it.[/QUOTE]Loutron:

16 A#9 E500.

Las Isla.

Kilo. 5 Las Palmas.

I posted a map a few pages back, post #33751.

[QUOTE=PhilLanderr;2414916]Gentlemen,

My first post. Truth. I have contributed nothing at this point, but plan to in the near future. I am in absorption mode, trying to soak up as much wisdom as I can before making my first trek to Medellin later this Spring. I can't tell you all how much I appreciate the time and knowledge you all have shared. I've read the last 2 1/2 years of posts and still going. And I feel like I kinda know many of you. And I know many of you I'd like to meet, have a beer, and share war stories. Still, I sometimes wonder more about where you're coming from. I can usually get a bit of an idea of background. Some of you share that in your reports. But it's also a little ambiguous at times. Experience tells me some mongers tend to be very private. Which I totally respect. But we're all sharing here. And knowing just some basics about you would add some great context to the posts you write. As for me, here's some info.


Preferences: think I'm more of a Facebook / Gusto guy vs casas / centro, but I'm sure I'll try it all.

So how about it? Sound off![/QUOTE]In a nut shell, none of what you wrote about yourself is going to matter except how much money your willing to spend and having no Spanish speaking skills. Based on what you wrote, the Mansion and Gusto's has your name written all over it. I'm not saying don't try the Casa's, try the upper scale ones versus the lower budget ones as the facilities will be nicer. But as far as El Centro, you most probably be a fish out of water there. You should at least visit the place, hopefully you can hook up with someone who can give you a tour. The Fay Boo girls will be a challenge but others have had success using a translator.

In regards to other posters reports perhaps being ambiguous, private, lacking in detail, or having no idea where their coming from (well probably lots of my posts), some of them are pretty straight forward like guys posting about going down on girls on their periods, licking their asses, bare-backing them etc.

Anyways you will have a great time when your here.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2414660]
TLDR: would recommend pay as you go new life casa. Found a weed ice cream shop that was a 2 minute walk from my apartment. Chill night doing a tasting menu (possibly related to the weed ice cream).[/QUOTE]You have a great attitude. I like your report and style. It brings up some old memories. I feel like a fly on the wall while you are fucking. Haha.

I have never seen the sex chair at new life. I guess it depends on the room you are in.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2414696]
This is also the day I found out about menu del Dias. They are basically lunch specials from 12-3 pm. A ton of modern restaurants do a 4-5 course menu with a soup, salad, drink, main course, and dessert for 10-15 mil. It's a great deal and there's a lot of good restaurants that do it. Would highly recommend.
[/QUOTE]

In El Centro, it's under 10 mils. That is the price difference. You can get very good, large portion Chinese food with that price near Plaza Botero.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2414696]Woke up horny after not fucking the previous night so I shot off like 15 messages to milerotic ads seeing who would respond first. The 2 things I searched for were 18 yo(cause I found that it seems like the younger ones who aren't jaded yet perform better instead of the older experienced ones surprisingly) and promocion since a lot of ads were doing 60 mil an hour promos. Seems like there are a lot of mini casas in Laureles near my apartment so I started to form a plan in my head to tour them all. One finally messaged me back around 10 am and I was on my way. I get to her apartment and I'm met at the door by 2 girls that look very similar and I can't tell which one I was talking to LOL. They are older than advertised (maybe mid 20's) but still fairly attractive (maybe 7's). They proceed to tell me that they only do 3 somes (weird) but their 3rd friend who just walked out does solos. I am weary of 3 somes with girls I haven't tried before. I decide to go with their friend who is a little overweight (5.5-6 ish). I probably would've walked out in normal circumstances but nobody else had responded to me and I was horny that morning from skipping the night before.[/QUOTE]My man were you nervous to go meet these girls at their place? Is the price different if they come meet you at your hotel?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2414843]Your list is somewhat limited. No pregnant or previously pregnant girls, no glue sniffers, no deaf, deaf mute, or mute only girls, no one eyed girls, no one legged girls, or any midgets. I suppose if these types aren't readily available on Fay Boo, they can definitely be found in El Centro, however I haven't seen a midget there in a while.[/QUOTE]I do have a few pregnant, or recently pregnant girls on there. I've also got a few recently married to gringos. No glue sniffers. None of them can remember where they left their phone. I've got a few short ones, but no midgets.

All the rest, I know where to find them in El Centro. Although, I didn't see Hopalong last time. The 4 foot tall indigenous woman isn't still hanging out by the casino behind Iglesia Veracruz? If someone would clean her up, I'd give her a try.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2414830]Where is most fun, el centro, parque Lleras, strip clubs (mansion, false dos), prepagados. Anyone Please chime in. Trying to decide should I stay in Laureles to position myself in the middle or stay in Poblado.[/QUOTE]Any answer to your question is bound to be wrong. What works for you may not work for someone else.

If you're going to be there for 32 days, you have plenty of time to figure out what works best for you. I'd book a place for 4 nights and decide where to spend the rest of your trip. Either Laureles or Poblado. Laureles will be cheaper.

I thought mileroticos was a web-site to find chicas to come over, but it sounds like you are talking about a casa you went to. So, what was it? Was all those encounter at Yakusa?

Keep your funny reports coming!

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2414851]So to salvage the night took a sidenufilo or the generic Viagra whatever theyre called and went to a mileroticos girl, vennie for 60 k. Total GFE, sweating buckets fucking her in all positions, 69, but I couldn't cum! I think it was the beers earlier. Went to eat some arepas on carr. 70.

So it's 1130 pm and I have to salvage the night. Hit up another vennie on mileroticos, 60 k for the hour. Man this is total GFE. Ironically theyre in the same spa place on carr 81. Front door man laughs when he sees me again.

20 year old spinner, Sabrina, DFK, maybe 100 lbs, fat ass. Idk what these venies are eating but man she was so tight. Straight animal fucking for an hour and came really hard. She almost fell asleep laying w / me after.

So far, the vennies are muchhhhhh better than the paisas in terms of service. Maybe they need it more, idk?.[/QUOTE]

Post].

But this girl was insanely tight. When I tried to put it in, it was hard to fit and she started complaining it hurt. She asked if I had lube and I did not so what am I supposed to do. Well if you can probably see where this is going and if you guessed I ate her period pussy out to get it wet, you're right. She wasn't lying about the fact that it was at the end of her period and it was only a little bloody (maybe medium well). Couldn't see any blood but could definitely taste it a little. But I plowed on through cause Mommy didn't raise a quitter (besides on everything else I've quit).

She may have been extremely uptight or high anxiety or something like that. Psychological problems can cause things to tighten up along with.

The dryness too. She needs another occupation if this is the case.

Slow down on your eating habits buddy boy. Finger test first for smell etc.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2413961]Go to 4X4 in Rio then get back to me on that![/QUOTE]Mr. E that gave me a fantastic belly laugh. Haven't been to Rio in 9 years. Pleasant memories of 4 x 4 and planning to go this year after 8 years of marriage and recently divorced.

Best.

Logan.

[QUOTE=PhilLanderr;2414916]
Preferences: think I'm more of a Facebook / Gusto guy vs casas / centro, but I'm sure I'll try it all.
[/QUOTE]El Centro has more than casas. There are places in with setup similar to Gusto. The difference is price, ambiance and some may say quality. You can buy drink or food for street girl if you want. So one way to interpret your preferences is that you like better ambiance and don't mind spending more.

[QUOTE=JayBoy300;2414771]So I have been to Colombia various times and have a blast always. I wanted to know if anyone here has been to Colombia as well as panama. I wanted to visit two spots for my upcoming trip in month.

I am definitely going to Cuba for mainly non-mongering activities. Is Colombia as good as usual? Or is a visit to Panama to get a different change of scenery and ladies there worth it?

Thanks,

J.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't recommend Panama. It's expensive and not much to do other than checking out the Panama canal and old city.

And, Veneto casino closed so Habanos cafe is really only place where action is at night unless you want to visit low end places where short-term sex is available.

If you still want to check it out, do an overnight stay during the visit to Colombia by using Copa airline.

[QUOTE=PhilLanderr;2414916]Gentlemen,

My first post. Truth. I have contributed nothing at this point, but plan to in the near future. I am in absorption mode, trying to soak up as much wisdom as I can before making my first trek to Medellin later this Spring. I can't tell you all how much I appreciate the time and knowledge you all have shared. I've read the last 2 1/2 years of posts and still going. And I feel like I kinda know many of you. And I know many of you I'd like to meet, have a beer, and share war stories. Still, I sometimes wonder more about where you're coming from. I can usually get a bit of an idea of background. Some of you share that in your reports. But it's also a little ambiguous at times. Experience tells me some mongers tend to be very private. Which I totally respect. But we're all sharing here. And knowing just some basics about you would add some great context to the posts you write. As for me, here's some info.[/QUOTE]Bring your money, find chics, bang them write reports, next! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2414965] I didn't see Hopalong last time. The 4 foot tall indigenous woman isn't still hanging out by the casino behind Iglesia Veracruz? If someone would clean her up, I'd give her a try.[/QUOTE]I know exactly who you are talking about. A very short Indian who sells candy on the backstreet besides the Veracruz Church. I've checked her out a few times, and tried to talking to her once, but couldn't understand much. Sounded like she spoke a weird dialect.

Anyways, so that you can expand on you list, if and when and if I sight a midget in El Centro, I will immediately send you a PM so you can get first dibbs on her, unless I go for it, but I do have standards, albeit quite low.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2414981]Post].Slow down on your eating habits buddy boy. Finger test first for smell etc.[/QUOTE]I was surprised by what I read by two of the posters on this thread regarding going down on Chicas while on their period or licking their assholes. Maybe it's a cultural thing for some, I don't know. Regardless I have to respect these posters for posting, albeit I wouldn't do what their doing, however I am not one to judge, and I am sure I do things others wouldn't do either.

[QUOTE=JayBoy300;2414771]So I have been to Colombia various times and have a blast always. I wanted to know if anyone here has been to Colombia as well as panama. I wanted to visit two spots for my upcoming trip in month.

I am definitely going to Cuba for mainly non-mongering activities. Is Colombia as good as usual? Or is a visit to Panama to get a different change of scenery and ladies there worth it?

Thanks,

J.[/QUOTE]Panama has better female quality surprisingly than Colombia, in terms of looks atleast (girls from all over South America go to Panama) but the service is terrible. I'm a strip club + brothel type of guy and in Panama they have Bocatorena (bar with small rooms in the back) which I'd advise to only go in the daytime / early afternoon, chicas are $15 a pop, I think $60 for take out. I went to Club Capri & La Gruta Azul at night and chicas were $25-+ a pop at these places, the gems I found at these places were better looks wise than anything I saw in Colombia, some were funnily enough Colombian but like I said the service was mediocre. Habanos is a bar where the girls charge $100-150/ HR situated in the commercial center but I didn't session as I found what I was looking for at a much cheaper price point at Azul and Capri but from I heard it seems that the girls there are stunners, so yea, I'd say Panama is a good spot to visit for a few days but it gets boring quickly as there isn't much to do in the daytime.

Woke up and decided to go to Veracruz again after breakfast. Man botero is fuckin dead on Sunday, actually all of Colombia is. Went with a 30 year old vennie named nicol, she was standing across from premier plaza. Perfect tits, fat ass, no belly fat, a see section scar but beggars can't be choosers haha. She could easily work in a casa. 35 k, 16 k for hotel. Premier plaza is a looooooot nicer than zona rosa for an extra 3 k. We fucked for like a good 20 min every position, she tried finishing me with a HJ but didn't cum. All good. Decided to check out the casas, bad choice. Barcelona not open, turcos not open, divine women looks shut down casa amigas not open. Went into new life, in the reception were like 7 fucking people mostly foreigners. Saw that and made a quick you turn out of there. Price for 30 m is 55 k. Walked over to trusty old casa Natalia. Dead empty, hidden gem. Went with Vanessa, 23 why. O paisa. 46 k. Face was a 5, but ass and tits are each an 8. I'm talking BAM. So add those up and divide by 3 she's a solid 7. Very sweet GFE, came doggy. Casa Natalia knows what they're doing.

Went to Poblado to see what the hype was about and man it fucking sucks, at least IMO. Like a Spanish Seattle. I felt less safe there than in centro tbh. People see everyone as prey. Took a cab to Santa Fe mall because fuck those hills, had a nice steak. Excellent mall, but tbh I prefer the grittiness of centro. Tho I saw some hot ass paisas. But why to talk to them and pay for food when I can just go pay and fuck one? Lmao.

Around 7 met with Valeria from mileroticos. 70 k the hour. Hot ass chick, 19 years old, perfect tits and ass, solid 8. Total GFE, really into it. I couldn't cum tho lmao. Starting to see a pattern?8232;Went to la carr 70. For food and man it is fucking lit. That is the place to be, talk shit with locals, etc. Went home, regrouped, and met with this vennie off milerotics the same fucking casa on carr 80. Her ad doesn't say her name. I got there and knew I was fucked. Total attitude, I walk in she goes, "how many girls have you been with here". So these girls talk. I say "so how many guys have you been with today?" she doesn't say anything and tells me to get naked. Total mechanical BS, total attitude, I lose my boner during doggy because she is faking moans and doesn't want to put her head down. I say I'm done and get dressed. So I take the proverbial "L" tonight. Oh well that's life it just isn't a straight ride up, it has its ups and downs. But whatever maybe my dick needs a rest after 15? Girls in 3 days.

Now this is some serious sport fucking my friends. Can only do this in MDE. Locals are super chill, not one rude person yet honestly.

Great routine I have going, get worked up with the first girl, cum with the second. Rinse repeat.

I can't imagine paying more than 100 k for a girl tbh, like on photoprepagos they're asking 180 cop or 250 cop like get the fuuuuck out of here lmao. And they don't show face.

Going to report on the casas tomorrow when they're open.

Cheers,

JW.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2414489]Natalia brothel on calle 49 is realllly nice. About 6 girls in the lineup, all fuckable. Got with sofia, 22 year old, hard 8. GFE, 46 k 30 min. 80 k hour..[/QUOTE]Where exactly is Natalia brothel? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2414976]I thought mileroticos was a web-site to find chicas to come over, but it sounds like you are talking about a casa you went to. So, what was it? Was all those encounter at Yakusa?

Keep your funny reports coming![/QUOTE]Mileroticos has both indy's who can come over, or you can go to visit them. Also, groups of girls post ads where they share an apartment and it's basically a casa. I believe those are the places that he was referring to.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2414660]Day 3.

Had a lazy morning this day since I had to check out of the mansion and to an Airbnb in Laureles.[/QUOTE]From what I read you got a room at the Mansion but didn't fuck any Mansion chicks? I get that the Mansion staff helps you, and that's part of the appeal, but the girls there are not bad looking. The two girls you posted, Gomez and Torres earlier, they're below the attractiveness of the average Mansion chick IMO. With the Mansion you also get to see the girls in person.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2414976]I thought mileroticos was a web-site to find chicas to come over, but it sounds like you are talking about a casa you went to. So, what was it? Was all those encounter at Yakusa?

Keep your funny reports coming![/QUOTE]You can do either outcall or incall with mileroticos, depending on what the chica says on her ad. But the site has been dominated lately by "eros spa", which is an apartment with like 20 private rooms and private front door security. Basically the girls are independent escorts as there is no mamasan. You text them off their ad and they give you price and directions. You show up and they tell you the apt number and go up the elevator. You deal with the girl directly. But the best deal on the site, 60 k for an hour with these 18-20 year olds all happen to be at the same apartment building and all these girls talk lmao! I like that the ads show their faces. There are a few of these buildings throughout Laureles, I may have to change it up a bit.

Ex: what I'm talking about [URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/tragona-pollita-de-18-full-ardiente-en-la-70/16728324/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2414936]But as far as El Centro, you most probably be a fish out of water there. You should at least visit the place, hopefully you can hook up with someone who can give you a tour. The Fay Boo girls will be a challenge but others have had success using a translator. [/QUOTE]I don't think Fb girls is a challenge at all, I speak zero Spanish and I just fucked 2-3 fb girls a day for 21 days straight, using google translate, it is as easy as order a pizza. El centro is a bit more difficult, but it can be done using google translate; although the rooms downtown is little less comfortable than my Airbnb.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2414851]Falling into a nice routine here.

Wake up, cig and coffee, bunuelos, empanadas, empty bowels.

Hit Veracruz, man it is hot as fuck. Took this 18 year old Colombian spinner, maybe 100 lbs, behind the iglesia. 30 k rato, 10 k room.

Couldn't cum, these SW are strictly business man. When they fake it, it is really hard to get into it and finish. Still, $13 to fuck hot 18 year olds, she was a solid 8, is a novelty.

Headed over to yakusa again as it was too hot to walk towards the other casas lmao.

Took Natalia, 22 Y. O vennie, perfect ass, no fat, GFE DFK. Came good. 46 k 30 min, gave her 4 k tip cause why not.

Drank some beers with these old paisas next to raudal, they're a riot. Headed over to centro mall next to berrio, nice bandeja paisa for 16 k. Went back to the room, 3 hour nap. Crashed hard.

Met this prepago for 90 k at like 7 pm, I couldn't even get hard. Her body was banging but her face was like a 5. Note to self don't meet up unless they show face online.

I couldn't get hard, fuck my life right.

So to salvage the night took a sidenufilo or the generic Viagra whatever theyre called and went to a mileroticos girl, vennie for 60 k. Total GFE, sweating buckets fucking her in all positions, 69, but I couldn't cum! I think it was the beers earlier. Went to eat some arepas on carr. 70..[/QUOTE]Sounds like your blending right into the El Centro scene and all it has to offer. And you most definitely get more bang for your buck with the Vennies given there are so many of them competing with one another, especially at ground zero (Carrea 52 & Carrea 53). In regards to the mis-fires (not being able to cum) besides the effects of alcohol, at least in my case I find it hard to finish when I am tired. Also for some with the altitude here being similar to Denver, this may be affecting you along with being de-hydrated if your not drinking enough liquids (not beers). In regards to Viagra, I typically only take a 25 MG dose, when I have taken more I have a hard time finishing. I also find spacing out my sessions as much as possible helps as well. At least four to six hours apart for me being an old fart.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2414976]I thought mileroticos was a web-site to find chicas to come over, but it sounds like you are talking about a casa you went to. So, what was it? Was all those encounter at Yakusa?
[/QUOTE]Most of the ladies on mileroticas have their own place (shared with other ladies). Some will do outcalls, and some only do webcam. Facebook is the place to find ladies to come to you.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2415047]Here's the thing gentlemen. These girls do NOT want to sit down and eat a meal with you. This activity is done only with family or close friends in their culture. It is boring, uncomfortable, and just odd to do it with a stranger, a foreigner no less. [/QUOTE]Last time I went to work I had to do this, this, and that if I wanted to get paid. My boss did not ask me what I wanted to do or what I was comfortable doing. If I wanted to get paid, then I had to do what the job required. If not, then I could always pat my feet on the street and look for another. Like anything else, you may be uncomfortable with it at first, but you get used to it. And if you are choosing to be a scort, then get used to escorting.

[QUOTE=Uthred;2415128]Man it's definitely a case of beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In my opinion the female quality was much better in Colombia for sure. The malls, the streets, tinder chicks, etc. All ranked above the Panamanian chicks I saw the last time I was there. I do have to agree that the service is terrible in Panama though. This is why I'm heading back to Colombia this week LOL.

That's some funny fuckin shit right there LOL. The post had me laughing but it also came with some good advice. I wonder what group I fall into??[/QUOTE]Don't misunderstand me, the Panamanian girls are ugly and fat ahahah, I meant the working girls in the casas / bars & strip clubs. The two standout girls I sessioned with in Panama both were Colombian & I think Colombia has the best looking women on planet earth, I just was expecting more going to the mother land of milk and honey with regards specifically to the working girls but maybe my expectations were just too high.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2415038]Now this is some serious sport fucking my friends. Can only do this in MDE.[/QUOTE]Great report, but that is not true. Rio, Pattaya, Angeles City, Tijuana come to mind. Not to mention I was in Santa Fe in Bogota last night and fucked 3 chicks in 4 hours. 60K for one in the club (would come all night for 200K), 35K street girl, and another street girl for 80K because I wanted an hour. Hell, she said she would do all night for 150K. So there are in fact many places that this can be done, not just Medellin.

[QUOTE=TopoChico571;2415065]Where exactly is Natalia brothel? Thanks.[/QUOTE]From San Antonio, go east on calle 49 all the way past the metro tram things until you reach carrera 44. It is between carrera 44 and carr 43, across from the blue and yellow building with bricks. Can't miss it. On the left hand side heading east, #43-68. Great lineup.

Veracruz this am. Did the rounds around iglesia past the museum and back towards carr 52 and calle 52 as WOLF calls "ground zero" . Sitting on the bench was a cute little vennie, I asked her how old she says 18. In my head I'm like" holy shit". Solid 7. 5 in the face, massive tits, dd, and a fat ass. She could easily work in a casa. We go to premier plaza, lady gives me a dirty look at the front desk for some reason, but her ID is good to go. Premier plaza is really nice, towels, hot water etc. 30 k + 16 k for hotel. She was SUPER tight, she couldn't ride on top because it hurt. Did great missionary and doggy, but didn't want to cum with her so early in the am. Her name was Andrea I think, yellow top.

Ate some palitos de questo, cig, tutti frutti drink, walked over to turcos. Approx. 10:20 am. Only one girl, Juana, didn't want to go with her. Figured it's early so went to new life. 5 fucking guys in there! Did a you-turn again, not going there again. Walked to akimas next to bliss motel, locked. Maybe opens later. Divini women, the casa with the white background with red and blue stripes, looks shut down for good if you guys want to update the map. Went north to dulce compania, red painted entrance. Open door.

Mamasan sweet black girl super nice, wow an actual nice mamasan imagine my shock. Prices 30 k 15 m, 50 k 30 m, 80 k 1 hour. Lineup of 6 girls, all fuckable but an old blond granny. I went with salome, she was literally sexy as fuck, 5 ft, pretty thick, her face was a 9, body an 8. Tatted everywhere. Best service ever. Definition of GFE, amazing attitude. Strip tease, every position, came with her screaming "dame tu leche' in missionary. Went over to baclones de Cuba and barcelona, they are both open. I will go there later or tomorrow. Had a great menu del DIA 4 course meal for 8 k near prado.

Casas have been amazing so far, every experience has been great. And I'm lucky every time I've been I'm literally the only guy there! (outside of new life).

Cheers.

Jw.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2415202]P.S. can someone tell me how to cut down a quote?[/QUOTE]After you click reply with quote, you just go in and delete the parts you do not want.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2415144]I don't think Fb girls is a challenge at all, I speak zero Spanish and I just fucked 2-3 fb girls a day for 21 days straight, using google translate, it is as easy as order a pizza. El centro is a bit more difficult, but it can be done using google translate; although the rooms downtown is little less comfortable than my Airbnb.[/QUOTE]I think you may be more of an exception than the rule here. Some guys would not be able to do what you have done in Medellin. A lot of guys need things spoon feed to them or are afraid of their shadow, hence they would most likely will be like a fish out of water at some of the venues around town. I'm not trying to discourage anyone, it's all very entertaining when you hear the things that have transpired with some of the posters like yourself (good things) for those with zero Spanish skills. You have no idea how different things would be if you had them. Yes, the translator helps, but has serious limits, especially when things aren't going well, etc. When your in the room with a girl. I'm sure you had some issues with some of the FB girls at times. I struggle learning Spanish, and the more I learn, the more I realize how much easier it is to navigate here. I know other Spanish speaking posters can attest to what I am trying to convey here. Again, I'm not trying to dissuade anybody here from going after everything under the sun here, your having a blast here, and so can others.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2415258]After you click reply with quote, you just go in and delete the parts you do not want.[/QUOTE]Thanks, too easy. Will do so in the future. Mr. E. you're more than just another pretty face in the crowd. Maybe better to say handsome. No funny business intended.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2414613] Well if you can probably see where this is going and if you guessed I ate her period pussy out to get it wet, you're right. She wasn't lying about the fact that it was at the end of her period and it was only a little bloody (maybe medium well). Couldn't see any blood but could definitely taste it a little. But I plowed on through cause Mommy didn't raise a quitter (besides on everything else I've quit). After 5 minutes of this, I put my dick back in.

TLDR: Had a Bloody Mary for breakfast. Ieraldin Gomez (7/10 session better than strip club experiences). Would recommend but not repeat. Lack of research lead to a wasted night. Emily Torres II (4/10 looks 3/10 service) would not recommend.[/QUOTE]That is just about the most disgusting thing I can imagine. I don't know if I am more amazed that this happened, or that oyu freely admit it. LOL. To each there own, I guess. But, um. No thanks for me! I generally don't eat any hooker pussy.

I do appreciate your candor and thank you for the reviews though. All info like this helps in some way or another.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2415260]I think you may be more of an exception than the rule here. Some guys would not be able to do what you have done in Medellin. A lot of guys need things spoon feed to them or are afraid of their shadow, hence they would most likely will be like a fish out of water at some of the venues around town. I'm not trying to discourage anyone, it's all very entertaining when you hear the things that have transpired with some of the posters like yourself (good things) for those with zero Spanish skills. You have no idea how different things would be if you had them. Yes, the translator helps, but has serious limits, especially when things aren't going well, etc. When your in the room with a girl. I'm sure you had some issues with some of the FB girls at times. I struggle learning Spanish, and the more I learn, the more I realize how much easier it is to navigate here. I know other Spanish speaking posters can attest to what I am trying to convey here. Again, I'm not trying to dissuade anybody here from going after everything under the sun here, your having a blast here, and so can others.[/QUOTE]I have a feeling that some day you will talk me into learning Spanish.

Natalia used to be known as Estambul like 10 years ago before the tranvia. I remember the place having more 30+ year olds in the lineup that the spots nearer to Prado. I also remember appreciating the preserved architecture of the building.

You said a mouthful about New Life. It is a very rare day you will ever be the only guy or one of only a few guys there. It is the Walmart of Medellin casas.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2415249]From San Antonio, go east on calle 49 all the way past the metro tram things until you reach carrera 44. It is between carrera 44 and carr 43, across from the blue and yellow building with bricks. Can't miss it. On the left hand side heading east, #43-68. Great lineup.

Veracruz this am. Did the rounds around iglesia past the museum and back towards carr 52 and calle 52 as WOLF calls "ground zero" . Sitting on the bench was a cute little vennie, I asked her how old she says 18. In my head I'm like" holy shit". Solid 7. 5 in the face, massive tits, dd, and a fat ass. She could easily work in a casa. We go to premier plaza, lady gives me a dirty look at the front desk for some reason, but her ID is good to go. Premier plaza is really nice, towels, hot water etc. 30 k + 16 k for hotel. She was SUPER tight, she couldn't ride on top because it hurt. Did great missionary and doggy, but didn't want to cum with her so early in the am. Her name was Andrea I think, yellow top..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2415260]I know other Spanish speaking posters can attest to what I am trying to convey here.[/QUOTE]You mean like my first time mongering in Rio when I didn't speak Portuguese and the girl was trying to ask me for cocaine and I gave her a sudafed? She kept sniffing so I thought she meant she needed an antihistamine.

There are better ways to boost one's self esteem.

[QUOTE=Queens35;2415069]Who are you to judge these guys? Let them be, they aren't affecting you so no reason to make fun.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2415313]You mean like my first time mongering in Rio when I didn't speak Portuguese and the girl was trying to ask me for cocaine and I gave her a sudafed? She kept sniffing so I thought she meant she needed an antihistamine.[/QUOTE]Now that's funny!

It's true that people can get by without speaking the language. They can have the best time they could imagine without learning any Spanish.

Learning any of the language opens up new experiences. The more you learn, the better. Doesn't mean it's necessary, just beneficial.

In a few years we'll have seamless, instantaneous translation. Then the "I don't need to know the language" guys will discover what they've been missing.

Gentlemen,

Behold the birth of new Centro rat. LOL! Nice report, I really enjoyed reading it.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2415038]Woke up and decided to go to Veracruz again after breakfast. Man botero is fuckin dead on Sunday, actually all of Colombia is. Went with a 30 year old vennie named nicol, she was standing across from premier plaza. Perfect tits, fat ass, no belly fat, a see section scar but beggars can't be choosers haha. She could easily work in a casa. 35 k, 16 k for hotel. Premier plaza is a looooooot nicer than zona rosa for an extra 3 k. We fucked for like a good 20 min every position, she tried finishing me with a HJ but didn't cum. All good. Decided to check out the casas, bad choice. Barcelona not open, turcos not open, divine women looks shut down casa amigas not open. Went into new life, in the reception were like 7 fucking people mostly foreigners. Saw that and made a quick you turn out of there. Price for 30 m is 55 k. Walked over to trusty old casa Natalia. Dead empty, hidden gem. Went with Vanessa, 23 why. O paisa. 46 k. Face was a 5, but ass and tits are each an 8. I'm talking BAM. So add those up and divide by 3 she's a solid 7. Very sweet GFE, came doggy. Casa Natalia knows what they're doing.

Went to Poblado to see what the hype was about and man it fucking sucks, at least IMO. Like a Spanish Seattle. I felt less safe there than in centro tbh. People see everyone as prey. Took a cab to Santa Fe mall because fuck those hills, had a nice steak. Excellent mall, but tbh I prefer the grittiness of centro. Tho I saw some hot ass paisas. But why to talk to them and pay for food when I can just go pay and fuck one? Lmao..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2415369]

... I am still baffled by the fact that guys can be in the land of pussy and all they can come to the board and contribute is how African Guys travel in groups, Chinese guys are stupid, and the fat old guys is repulsed by the girl he takes to the mall for a meal. Contribute guys, contribute, tell us about girls and where they are, the other BS is for the birds. Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]IMO, your best post yet. 👆

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2415313]You mean like my first time mongering in Rio when I didn't speak Portuguese and the girl was trying to ask me for cocaine and I gave her a sudafed? She kept sniffing so I thought she meant she needed an antihistamine.[/QUOTE]That's funny.

My first date in Sao Paulo, Brazil, prior to speaking portugués, I asked a girl what she likes.

She said "hockey", and I was thinking wow, a Brazilian babe digging hockey.

I later found out that pronouncing "hockey" in portugués, is actually spelled, rock, and she was referring to rock music.

Hey guys,

I need some help. I've been to Medellin twice and want to try a different city in Colombia for girls. I'm getting burnt out on mexico and want to go back to Colombia since I love Latinas. Which of the two other countries, Bogota and Cartagena are best.

I didn't like the fact that the cases were so spread out in Medellin, and there was no beach to pick up girls. If you consider price, attractiveness of girls, GFE, convenience of finding girls, and a possible beach scene that is actually rocking. Which of those 2 countries should I try. I also like escorts if it isn't bait and switch.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2415323] If you want a drunk or high girl, go to Club Fahrenheit at 5 am. There will be plenty to choose from, already drunk or high. Or have drinks or drugs available at your apartment. It's cheaper. You remain in control. No risk from other people. Plus, instead of spending money to watch your girl dance with someone else, she can be dancing, naked, for you. [/QUOTE]Great advice. I will give that a try. I normally end up in Paradise at 5 am, it turns into shit around that time; full of tired and sober working girls who is pissed because no one picked them up the entire night.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2415323] If you're not enjoying where you're at, or what you're doing, go somewhere else, do something else. Don't just sit around bitching about other people enjoying themselves.[/QUOTE]+1.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2415326]Now that's funny!

It's true that people can get by without speaking the language. They can have the best time they could imagine without learning any Spanish.

Learning any of the language opens up new experiences. The more you learn, the better. Doesn't mean it's necessary, just beneficial.

In a few years we'll have seamless, instantaneous translation. Then the "I don't need to know the language" guys will discover what they've been missing.[/QUOTE]It's very unlikely that machine translation will get there anytime soon, trust me, I know (it's my field). What exactly did I miss without the knowing language? I know that I overpaid a bit, but besides that, what else? It's not like I'm dating the girl, I'm not going to discuss world politics, Beethoven's symphony, the best novel I've ever read or my interpretation of the origin of the universe with her. Google translate is enough to order food for her, ask her to dance, and making small jokes to make her laugh.

After Salome from dulce compania left me with my heart fluttering (yes I know don't fall for a WG) and that menu del DIA near prado, went to the nice mall next to parque Bolivar. Passed by hotel metropolis and there were only trannies out front LOL. Had some beers, went home and crashed. Back to veracruz at 430. Made rounds and a rail thin morena paisa named daniela was standing adjacent the casino behind the church in tight spandex. Not an ounce of fat. A cups, tight little ass. Went with her for 35 k, 10 k room. Those receptionists at those cheap rooms give you the biggest resting ***** face lmao, but I don't blame them. Daniela was a firecracker, bought her some pollo flavored chips there ,2 k, we got to the room she told me she's 20, has a 2 year old daughter, was taking snapchat selfies on her phones, classic extrovert. Best SW pussy I've had yet, felt so warm, no lube needed. Very tight. Could've cum but held back. She was maintaining eye contact, he knees to her chest in missionary and not looking around like a lot of SW do. For some reason these chicks hate it when you don't cum, they all become sad and detached ahhaha. I just say it's my fault I'm tired.

Head over to carr 47 and go to casa zandlay. 5 local guys in the lobby pounding beers, I made a you turn. Won't go back there again, as I like empty spots. Walked 2 blocks south to club paris, no receptionists, hahaha stuck my head around the right corner and there were three girls on their phones laying down on the couch. They didn't see me, they're probably tired. Ill go back in the morning to check it out. Walked back to turcos on calle 54, it started raining which was pretty refreshing. Tempting to buy weed at parque periodista but it would sketch me out to much to be high late in centro. Turcos 3 girls, all 7. 5 at least. The pimp dude is super chill. Took Naomi, triguena from veneuzela, 27 yo. 50 k 30 min. Ass was a solid 9, be cup tits and nice face. Amazing service, she wrapped her legs around me missionary while I finished as she had her head buried in my shoulder. Every casa has been amazing service, these owners run tight ships. Hung out in botero till like 730, some beers at the bar on the road that takes you past the museum into berrio station. Stores start closing down, I know it's time to head the fuck out.

Headed to estadio for food at carr. 70. Had a bunch of rum at one of the salsa bars. After I leave I pop a sidenofilo and hit up mileroticos as the carr70 brothel there is a street away from the metro station. Knew I wouldn't be able to finish after 4 girls and 2 cums today (boy was I wrong) and rum but whatever, it's the novelty of $17 to fuck a 20 year old, that's what I would pay in NY at a bar for 2 drinks to maybe get laid by some chubby american chick. Met up with this redhead from mileroticos on la 70, idk her name but go on the first three pages you'll see her. 70 k 1 hour. Best session in MDE yet. Massage, DFK GFE every position, finished in missionary with DFK, shower together after. A real sweetheart. Ass was incredible, solid 9 down there. This is where things get complicated because ofc she's going to want me to repeat with her, but like every monger I want to try new girls, but they all talk as they are friends obv and are in the same apartment. Idk lets see what happens. 5 girls, 3 cums today, exhausted.

There is a sense of community here in Medellin that doesn't exist in the states. I guess that's why people fall in love with it. People outside chatting, most businesses are family owned, everyone knows each other, people just hanging out. Reminds me of the Burroughs in New York 20 years ago, pre smartphone, before people went into Starbucks or dunkin donuts with their headphones in, staring at their phones completely isolated. It's like a time warp here.

In centro, give all those annoying 50 or 100 peso coins to the young moms with babies selling lollipops on the sidewalks. Better than having them jingle in your pockets.

And surf, thanks for the advice on hydration. Staying duro now with water, it's just easy to forget with $1 pilsens everywhere.

And mr. Enternational, you're right on sport fucking locations, I was just speaking to my (in hindsight) expensive mongering in Europe. Rio is next.

Cheers,

JW.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2414613]I sadly order rappi and go to bed (cause I had a small dinner but it was fucking up my eating schedule cause that's 2 days in a row I ate at like 11 pm.[/QUOTE]Thanks for posting this report. I'm a little confused, why order two fb girls while staying in the mansion? Why go to sleep at 11 pm if you are staying in the mansion, between 10-2 am is the busiest time in the bar at the mansion, if you are already paying to stay there, why not utilize all its benefits? I normally pay 50 k to go into the bar, because I'm not staying there.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2415202]

P.S. can someone tell me how to cut down a quote? Although in this case it's all good reading.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2415258]After you click reply with quote, you just go in and delete the parts you do not want.[/QUOTE]Like Mr E said, but just be sure that when you highlight and delete the parts you want to take out that you leave the world QUOTE with all the brackets around it. Otherwise it will look like you posted the words yourself.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2415445]Like Mr E said, but just be sure that when you highlight and delete the parts you want to take out that you leave the world QUOTE with all the brackets around it. Otherwise it will look like you posted the words yourself.[/QUOTE]It's easy on a laptop. Just select what you want to delete and hit either backspace or delete. On a smart phone it's slightly more difficult. You can backspace through everything you want to delete, but that can take some time. Or, you can press on a word in the section you want to delete. The word will be highlighted with a circle at each end. Use a finger to drag the circles to highlight the whole section you want to delete, then click on "cut. ".

If you want to cut almost the entire quote, click on a word near the beginning. Click "select all. " Then use your finger on the blue circle at the beginning and end, to unhighlight the parts you want to keep.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2415249]From San Antonio, go east on calle 49 all the way past the metro tram things until you reach carrera 44. It is between carrera 44 and carr 43, across from the blue and yellow building with bricks. Can't miss it. On the left hand side heading east, #43-68. Great lineup.[/QUOTE]Excellent. Thank you. You or anyone have addresses of other casas please?

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2415328]Gentlemen,

Behold the birth of new Centro rat. LOL! [/QUOTE]I am beginning to have second thoughts about posting anymore about my follies in El Centro. More and more Mongers are discovering the secret playground, becoming either entranced with the place and / or converts to this slice of paradise to be beholden.

Another Centro rat has been spawned, which will spawn another, and another. And before you know it there will be a stampede of Mongers on the same scale of the Venezuelans which has taken place over the last three years. Perhaps its the beginning of the end for this slice of paradise. I hope not.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2415448] Have you considered antidepressants? Latina pussy is my antidepressant but it does not seem to be working for you.[/QUOTE]LOL, love your posts and appreciate your insights. Just finished reading the last 100 or so pages of the forum, it's fascinating how wildly different peoples opinions and experiences are of the same areas, strip clubs, casas and even the same chica. Each experience is unique to the the individual. Heading down late February for 3 weeks for my first time. Looking forward to reporting back.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2415047]Although I used to adore the place years ago, I rarely go to Parque Lleras anymore. Either it has changed, my point of view has changed, or the place's warts have become exposed. Probably a combination of all 3. I was bored on Sunday, I ventured over there. It has been at least 18 months since I was there, and probably more than a year before that........[/QUOTE]This whole post is nothing but shameless nonsensical drivel. Pathetic.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2415445]Like Mr E said, but just be sure that when you highlight and delete the parts you want to take out that you leave the world QUOTE with all the brackets around it. Otherwise it will look like you posted the words yourself.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mojo Bandit good extra instructions. You always seem to be helpful and with good advice etc.

I also just read your reply to the original post where I ended up asking how to delete. I re-read that post and your reply. I have to admit that I missed out how offensive it may seem to black guys. I didn't see the offense since I'm not black but can understand. I just saw it as his point of view description. Maybe I should be more sensitive but if we don't let these things bother us we are the stronger better person but I do see your point. I guess I found his description more funny and somewhat true but not in an offensive way. One thing for sure, most of the blacks I've seen are happy and having a good time. We all enjoy the same things. They are not loners like many white guys. I come from a very mixed area and get along with most everyone. Probably better with blacks than whites.

His geezer description does fit many, thank God we aren't in that stereotype. It is a funny one. You obviously are well traveled and a very open minded guy as I am. I just found the description funny. I guess he was being a little too cynical. I'm a people watcher and lots of thoughts go through my mind while watching others. I try to be non judgmental unless they are being an ugly american. Even if they are trying to use the translators they want to communicate and that's a good thing but does look somewhat funny. My Spanish should be fluent but it's not. I'm too old to really get totally fluent.

But I get by pretty well. But the Paisas have their own lingo!

Anyway, good points and thanks again for the extra instructions.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2415449]It's easy on a laptop. Just select what you want to delete and hit either backspace or delete. On a smart phone it's slightly more difficult. You can backspace through everything you want to delete, but that can take some time. Or, you can press on a word in the section you want to delete. The word will be highlighted with a circle at each end. Use a finger to drag the circles to highlight the whole section you want to delete, then click on "cut. ".

If you want to cut almost the entire quote, click on a word near the beginning. Click "select all. " Then use your finger on the blue circle at the beginning and end, to unhighlight the parts you want to keep.[/QUOTE]Thanks JBee62. More good I instructions.

Allow me to add something to MojoBandits post. I agree on the meals too. Some gals really appreciate the company and a good meal. It's also a great way to see how she thinks. If she orders the most expensive items then beware but if no, she is alright and things should pan out fine afterwards.

Thanks again.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2415448]Everyone else was there to have a good time, and they probably were. You were there emitting negative vibes. I think I would much enjoy reading their description of Parque Lleras as opposed to the ramblings of a melancholy mind. Have you considered antidepressants? Latina pussy is my antidepressant but it does not seem to be working for you.[/QUOTE]+1, very well put.

Does anyone know if Uber service is still scheduled to end on January 31st. I will be in Laureles for 2 1/2 weeks and always had an Uber driver wait for me at the airport. Thank you.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2415627]Does anyone know if Uber service is still scheduled to end on January 31st. I will be in Laureles for 2 1/2 weeks and always had an Uber driver wait for me at the airport. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Taxis, Easy Taxis, Didis, etc work fine. Life is all about change. I myself am changing from staying in Centro to staying in Laureles next week. And I am still deciding whether to take my usual bus to downtown then the train to Laureles, or to just taxi a taxi from the airport directly to Laureles. Old habits die hard.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2415627]Does anyone know if Uber service is still scheduled to end on January 31st. I will be in Laureles for 2 1/2 weeks and always had an Uber driver wait for me at the airport. Thank you.[/QUOTE]According to articles I have read it's supposed to be shut down by the end of the month. With that being said, when you arrive at the Airport there will be a line up of taxis which have set prices to take you into the City. Always make sure they are taking you on the route that uses the Tunnel. I think it costs about 5,000 Pesos more and will save you at least 1/2 hour of travel time.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2415637]Taxis, Easy Taxis, Didis, etc work fine. Life is all about change. I myself am changing from staying in Centro to staying in Laureles next week. And I am still deciding whether to take my usual bus to downtown then the train to Laureles, or to just taxi a taxi from the airport directly to Laureles. Old habits die hard.[/QUOTE]Take the bus downtown and hop on the train. You'll save 60 k and you'll probably end up with 6 girl's numbers.

When I was staying at the south end of Poblado, I'd take the bus to San Diego mall, walk across the street and hop on a southbound bus, which would drop me 200 yards from the apartment.

My new preference is to call a Facebook girl with a car. 10 k more than a taxi, but they'll make all the stops you want and then come up to welcome you to the city, for an added fee. Riding along with a woman with her tits out, skirt up, hand in your pants beats Uber.

Don't know why you would take a bus to El Centro and then take all your stuff on a Metro to Laureles? Anyway, I used Uber a lot for day trips to various areas around Medellin. Hopefully I will find one of the driver's contact card

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2415637]Taxis, Easy Taxis, Didis, etc work fine. Life is all about change. I myself am changing from staying in Centro to staying in Laureles next week. And I am still deciding whether to take my usual bus to downtown then the train to Laureles, or to just taxi a taxi from the airport directly to Laureles. Old habits die hard.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2415671]Don't know why you would take a bus to El Centro and then take all your stuff on a Metro to Laureles?[/QUOTE]LOL. Hell I don't either, but the bus is all I have ever done from the airport. I only have a suitcase and a backpack.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2415637] And I am still deciding whether to take my usual bus to downtown then the train to Laureles, or to just taxi a taxi from the airport directly to Laureles. Old habits die hard.[/QUOTE]You can take the airport bus to San Diego mall stop, then take a taxi to Laureles. When you return to airport, do the reverse but have the driver take you to the San Diego terminal, not the stop. They are just a short distance apart.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2415431]Thanks for posting this report. I'm a little confused, why order two fb girls while staying in the mansion? Why go to sleep at 11 pm if you are staying in the mansion, between 10-2 am is the busiest time in the bar at the mansion, if you are already paying to stay there, why not utilize all its benefits? I normally pay 50 k to go into the bar, because I'm not staying there.[/QUOTE]He answered. He went on the bad days (Sunday, Monday) and the selection was poor.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2415661]According to articles I have read it's supposed to be shut down by the end of the month. With that being said, when you arrive at the Airport there will be a line up of taxis which have set prices to take you into the City. Always make sure they are taking you on the route that uses the Tunnel. I think it costs about 5,000 Pesos more and will save you at least 1/2 hour of travel time.[/QUOTE]Uber was never legal in Medellin. If you got an Uber at the airport you had to walk across into the parking lot to get to your Uber and then you had to sit in the front seat, and the diver was scared to be overheard you call them Uber and be seen as an Uber driver. What has changed? Is it an official shutdown from Uber itself this time?

I was in Indonesia earlier this month, everyone is using Uber alternative called Grab and there is also another one, forgot the name. I flagged a taxi on a street once, poor chap, no English, no GPS, I had to help him navigate off my phone using sign language the whole time. I'll never get in a cab in Asia again unless it's via an app. There's just no way to communicate.

Same damn thing in London, greedy bastards taxi drivers fighting technology to their last breath. Step aside and move on, can't hold the progress forever, embrace the change that is inevitable.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2415420]What exactly did I miss without the knowing language?
[/QUOTE]If you are already in paradise, when you hear that it is like there is another level above paradise. It's like your 10 is not really a 10 if you know more. Haha. I don't know.

I know this. If you know how to ski, then it opens up where you can go. If you can jump out of cliff, it opens up even more but that is not for everyone. Same thing can be said about many other activities.

You can do all that or just take a cab to Laureles. I'the rather go a straight line to a destination rather than zigzag and waste time

[QUOTE=Nounce;2415687]You can take the airport bus to San Diego mall stop, then take a taxi to Laureles. When you return to airport, do the reverse but have the driver take you to the San Diego terminal, not the stop. They are just a short distance apart.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2415296]That is just about the most disgusting thing I can imagine. I I generally don't eat any hooker pussy.

.[/QUOTE]Really? The most disgusting. You see I like pussy, no I love pussy, I like to finger pussy, fuck pussy and eat pussy. Hooker pussy is pussy. When I was in college there was a nonwritten but often spoken rule that a person should have a boyfriend / girlfriend until their senoir year so they could play the field bfir as long as possible. I asked many girls about their sex life and average girl said they had a different guy at least once a week. Twelve weeks in a semester for 6 semesters is a lot of guys, the biggest difference I see is more hookers than college girls insist on a condom. Blood is plasma and red and white blood cells, it's not urine or feces. In the army we referred to eating pussy on the rag as earning your red wings. Where is it written that bloody pussy can hurt you. Pussy is pussy and I'll eat any pussy because I'm not about to be a pussy about it. I'm not calling anyone else a pussy, but I am saying. It is written that nonpoisonous garden variety snakes can not really hurt you, but they still freak me out so I get that people can be freaked out for non rational reasons but in my book NormalAsianKid is a man who earned his wings and proved he loves pussy.

I guess you can call me a pussy. Not going to ever do that

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2415704]Really? The most disgusting. You see I like pussy, no I love pussy, I like to finger pussy, fuck pussy and eat pussy. Hooker pussy is pussy. When I was in college there was a nonwritten but often spoken rule that a person should have a boyfriend / girlfriend until their senoir year so they could play the field bfir as long as possible. I asked many girls about their sex life and average girl said they had a different guy at least once a week. Twelve weeks in a semester for 6 semesters is a lot of guys, the biggest difference I see is more hookers than college girls insist on a condom. Blood is plasma and red and white blood cells, it's not urine or feces. In the army we referred to eating pussy on the rag as earning your red wings. Where is it written that bloody pussy can hurt you. Pussy is pussy and I'll eat any pussy because I'm not about to be a pussy about it. I'm not calling anyone else a pussy, but I am saying. It is written that nonpoisonous garden variety snakes can not really hurt you, but they still freak me out so I get that people can be freaked out for non rational reasons but in my book NormalAsianKid is a man who earned his wings and proved he loves pussy.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2414613]Had a Bloody Mary for breakfast. Ieraldin Gomez (7/10 session better than strip club experiences). Would recommend but not repeat..[/QUOTE]I follow her and enjoy the funny stuff she posts twice a day. Her tightness interests me. But why would you not repeat?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2415704]Really? The most disgusting. You see I like pussy, no I love pussy, I like to finger pussy, fuck pussy and eat pussy. Hooker pussy is pussy. When I was in college there was a nonwritten but often spoken rule that a person should have a boyfriend / girlfriend until their senoir year so they could play the field bfir as long as possible. I asked many girls about their sex life and average girl said they had a different guy at least once a week. Twelve weeks in a semester for 6 semesters is a lot of guys, the biggest difference I see is more hookers than college girls insist on a condom. Blood is plasma and red and white blood cells, it's not urine or feces. In the army we referred to eating pussy on the rag as earning your red wings. Where is it written that bloody pussy can hurt you. Pussy is pussy and I'll eat any pussy because I'm not about to be a pussy about it. I'm not calling anyone else a pussy, but I am saying. It is written that nonpoisonous garden variety snakes can not really hurt you, but they still freak me out so I get that people can be freaked out for non rational reasons but in my book NormalAsianKid is a man who earned his wings and proved he loves pussy.[/QUOTE]Blood to blood contact is a sure way to contract a disease or illness, but hey, to each their own. Many same sex guys think that just because they suck a dick and do not allow guys to penetrate them down low that they will not catch any STD's, but guess what, they are dead ass wrong, just like any fool who has a cut on his gums, or tooth or open wound in his mouth and decides to eat a girl out on her period, do whatever floats your boat, but don't ask the Dr why you contracted anything. You are Army guys, college guys, and professional mongers who know everything about sex and how not to catch diseases eating bloody pussy. The nonsense on the this board tickles the hell out of me, if you can catch disease through saliva and body fluids, you damn sure can catch a disease through blood, but hey what the hell do I know? I'm just Pollo Negro and I am out!

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2415704]When I was in college there was a nonwritten but often spoken rule that a person should have a boyfriend / girlfriend until their senoir year so they could play the field bfir as long as possible.[/QUOTE]I guess there's a "not" missing, anyway I wish I'd been to your college!

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2415704]In the army we referred to eating pussy on the rag as earning your red wings. Where is it written that bloody pussy can hurt you. [/QUOTE]I don't mind bloody pussy either although there is a HIV transmission risk if you have cuts etc in your mouth, so maybe not something to do with the most promiscuous chicas unless you know their history well.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2415704]. Pussy is pussy and I'll eat any pussy because I'm not about to be a pussy about it. I'm not calling anyone else a pussy, but I am saying. It is written that nonpoisonous garden variety snakes can not really hurt you, but they still freak me out so I get that people can be freaked out for non rational reasons but in my book NormalAsianKid is a man who earned his wings and proved he loves pussy.[/QUOTE]I think your in the minority on this one. Are you saying that if someone doesn't go down on a woman when she is on her period they don't love pussy. So for the majority of guys that go down on a woman except when there on their period then they don't love pussy. Doesn't make sense, if someone didn't love pussy why would they go down on a woman at all. I think both you and NormalAsiaKid are in a league of your own, but I wouldn't call it the Pussy Lovers club.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2415692]If you are already in paradise, when you hear that it is like there is another level above paradise. It's like your 10 is not really a 10 if you know more. Haha. I don't know.

I know this. If you know how to ski, then it opens up where you can go. If you can jump out of cliff, it opens up even more but that is not for everyone. Same thing can be said about many other activities.[/QUOTE]Your knocking your head against the wall here. After writing two posts myself about this subject, I kind of understand know where SJobs is coming from, or perhaps what his point of reference is. He's had such surreal experiences here, like having bareback threesome sessions that are beyond belief, like nothing he has ever experienced before. So incredible, that he has a hard time imagining how things could be much better if he spoke the language. I can see where he is coming from.

[QUOTE=CunningStunt;2415698]For those who might be interested. My International Punting (mongering) Blog, including my trip to Colombia (Medellin, Bogota and Cartagena) is now completely registration and subscription free for ISG members. The link to the index page is [URL]http://bit.ly/30P6dUE.[/URL] Enjoy.[/QUOTE]I'll pass.

Hello all,

I will be coming to Medellin from Feb 3-9 and then again 14-16 after a brief trip to Cartagena. First of all, many thanks to all that have dropped knowledge on this forum in the past. You guys convinced me to switch my dream mongering trip from Pattaya / BKK to Colombia and it's finally happening. I'm not new to the monger life as I have had a solid rotation of chicks running in and out of my house in Chicago while I get to play daddy warbucks and pay a few cricket bills. I have also have spent time in Tijuana.

Even though I have had most of my questions answered in the last few hundred pages, I do have a few more if anyone can help me out.

What would I expect to pay on seeking arrangement? I understand the facebook pricing to be 150 k-300 k (I know, 300 k is crazy but what if it's Selena Gomez or something) but haven't seen a good number for SA. I'm really into the "semi-pro" where the girl isn't a hardened hooker but could pass as a college girl looking to buy a pair of shoes. You get the idea. Any good place besides tinder / facebook / SA?

Eh maybe I'll stop with just two questions. I think the gummies just kicked in.

I use Uber often here in Medellin and have been asking my drivers who they will be registered with if as expected Uber cannot be used starting Feb. 1. The replacements are Didi, Beat, and Indriver. It's also worth checking the price quote on Cabify because sometimes it's as cheap as the others. I'm not a fan of Indriver because you need to fuck around guessing what is a good price to bid. I'd rather have them tell me the cost. But the chicas like to use it because they can probably get the best rate at a slow time of the night. Last night a chica got her bid of 13 mil accepted to get back to Bello from Pablado.

Woke up. Palitos de queso and bunuelos. Cafe.

Hit Veracruz at 10 am. Walked straight pass the clear glass floor thing adjacent the church, kept going past the casino, cross the street in that same direction (west?) and on the side of the white hotel building a sexy 20 year old vennie named Alejandra. Spinner with a little stomach pouch (no belly overhang but you know), be cups, nice ass, 8 in the face. Def gems here, she was hiding in the stairwell thing behind two fat chicks. Very sweet and talkative. 35 k and 10 k for room. Got her a 2 k Gatorade. Missionary and doggy, super tight. She didn't want to ride. Didn't finish with her. Walk over to Paris club on carr 47. Lineup of 6 girls, only half are fuckable. I take Nicole, solid 8, no fat, tight body. 23 year old Your typical sexy paisa you see on the metro and you're like damn. 50 k 30 min. CBJ, massage, cowgirl, doggy, missionary. Couldn't finish, room was hot, and she had bad breath in missionary. Would not go back to Paris, not really a good lineup, rooms are shit. Sw looking girls mostly.

I get a quick empanada, cig, mango drink. Pop a generic Viagra. I'm guessing these things are just meth because they give me a head buzz like adderall and make me need to shit. Head over to chicos punto com on calle 54 but it looks closed. There is a staircase with a black door but it's locked with a big gold lock. It's around 12:30 pm when I checked. I walk to akimas (next to bliss motel) but theres two guys waiting so then head over to club sexy amigas, the one that's a street over from dulce compania to the east. Empty lobby. Not a bad lineup, 10 girls, mostly 6-7's, 2-3 eights, mamasan really nice, great facility. Looks like a jungle den kind of? Have upgrades in rooms if you like. I didn't do it. 50 k 30 min. Ac, the works. Take maria ange, 22 year old Pale paisa with brown hair and man her ass is the best yet. The ass that makes your turn your head on the street no cellulite. I shower and we start DFK naked. Great personality. She's moaning and playing with her clit in every position. I finish in missionary with her knees to her chest as she's moaning. Great service. Every casa has been great service, no starfish or mechanical so far. Head to centro mall next to parque bolivar and have a bandeja paisa and 3 pilsens. 26 k. Delicious. Go home and crash.

Wake up, empandas outside. Go to centro, it's a downpour. Around 5 pm. Was going to akimis but to avoid room I ended up close to casa Cuba so went there. You go upstairs and it's empty where the balcony is. Keep going down the hall and you find another set of stairs go up that to the 4th floor (2 floors up from receptionist), that is where the pimp dude is. Super chill. You sit on the couch and he knocks on each door. 6 girls, all at least 7's. I take Antonella, 5 ft, 110 lbs, looks like a morena sorority girl. The kind of girl you see working a tigo store and think why the fuck isn't she a model. Choosing girls on how they smile and attitude when they present themselves hasn't let me down yet, let's see. We get naked, she showers, I lie down and her head starts going down. I'm thinking. Wtf? Yes, she starts giving me BBBJ without asking. Amazing, bobbing her head. I tell her to sit up and I go down and give DATY as she pushes my head down. Is there anything better than a universitaria putting you in a ufc leg lock while you eat her out? She puts on the rubber, we go cowgirl, reverse CG, doggy, missionary as she keeps moaning "mas duro". I can't finish so she takes off the condom and starts sucking me off, I tell her it well help if she sits on my face. We 69 as she gives me head and jerks me off, her pussy in my face, dripping wet, till there is a knock on the door. I feel bad I couldn't finish cause she's such a god damn trooper, I tell her I'll do an hour next time tho in reality I don't repeat casa girls usually, scummy of me I know. This is the kicker, 43 k for media hora. Yes 43 k. Casa Cuba is a total win. I think I'm something like 7/7 or 8/8 with casa GFE experiences. As always YMMV. It may help that I look Spanish (Italian) , fluent, and in decent shape.

Head back, on my way back to berrio metro I cut thru parque bolivar to nutibara and by the fruit stands there there is a crowd of 30 people, growing, I get closer and these two police are getting the shit beat out of them by 2 fat guys and 2 girls! Like covering their heads and shit. The buses are honking, the street traffic at a stand still. Out of nowhere 3 or 4 police come running in with their batons and start swinging, one of the fat guys gets trucked into the fruit stand and all the fruit falls over like 10 feet away from me. More police are running in, the crowd is filming and laughing like they are at wwe. I know I shouldn't stay any longer, it's already dark. Got to love centro lmao.

Get home, chill, almost fell asleep but said fuck it I'm in mde, lets go. Got some rum at the corner store. Have some ron viejo caldas by myself. Pop a viagra. This is where things get interesting. Remember my last report how that vennie with an attitude at the brothel on carr 81 with all the 60 mil girls on mileroticos was asking" so how many girls have you been with here?" so naturally I hit up this spinner from the same place, she says 20 min and says some bullshit excuse about food. After 15 min I text another girl from the same place. She goes"20 min amor". What do I do? Text another girl from the same place. I say "I can be there in 5 if you're free". She goes 5 am?" so I text the first girl "haha you girls are fuunny" and she sends me a 25 sec voice message about how I think I'm slick because I can meet up from a different girl every night and they don't like that". So whatever, these teen Colombians tried to troll me, conspire against me if you will. So don't hit up a diff girl from that place everyday lmfao. My viagra was already 30 min in so I hit up the redhead from the carr 70 place and head to estadio, literally the entire hour DFK, I look at the condom at the end and its filled with white cream, I guess she was serious when she said she was cumming during cow girl, and that's a sure sign of a yeast infection. But fuck it, I didn't eat her out so we're golden, pony boy. Got home and going to pass tf out.

Casas:

So far sexy amigas, Natalia, turcos, Cuba, and yakusa (not a good facility but good service for a quick nut) have been fantastic. Paris and zandlay, not recommended. Or new life unless you like waiting with 6 guys in a lobby. Divini women and chicas punto com look closed down. Will check out Barcelona, akimi, and the two donas on calle 61 during my final two days here.

Sorry for the long post, trying to give back after reading 400+ pages of gold on here.

Cheers,

Jw.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2415773]The replacements are Didi, Beat, and Indriver. [/QUOTE]I am curious why Didi and Beat are not being run off the same as Uber, what makes them exempt from the same rules? Do you know?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2415803]I am curious why Didi and Beat are not being run off the same as Uber, what makes them exempt from the same rules? Do you know?[/QUOTE]Uber has a tendency to not work with local governments when it expands to a city. It's part of their growth-at-all-costs model, which also includes them giving deep discounts at a loss in an effort to take market share from other ride share apps. This is why they're facing the consequences in so many places though.

Other apps appear to be more conservative, including Lyft in the US, so they end up taking less heat.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2415773]I use Uber often here in Medellin and have been asking my drivers who they will be registered with if as expected Uber cannot be used starting Feb. 1. The replacements are Didi, Beat, and Indriver. It's also worth checking the price quote on Cabify because sometimes it's as cheap as the others. I'm not a fan of Indriver because you need to fuck around guessing what is a good price to bid. I'd rather have them tell me the cost. But the chicas like to use it because they can probably get the best rate at a slow time of the night. Last night a chica got her bid of 13 mil accepted to get back to Bello from Pablado.[/QUOTE]The price that Chica got of 13 K was probably because the driver lived near Bello and was just trying to get a fare home. Are these other companies regulated in any way, such as insurance, clean records at least with a Cedula check etc. Just curious that's all.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2415803]I am curious why Didi and Beat are not being run off the same as Uber, what makes them exempt from the same rules? Do you know?[/QUOTE]No idea but I don't think they are "exempt". More likely they have been too small to worry about so far.

I should mention the drivers are not convinced the Uber platform will quit working on Feb 1.

[QUOTE=Fassima;2414943]My man were you nervous to go meet these girls at their place? Is the price different if they come meet you at your hotel?[/QUOTE]I actually felt a lot less nervous meeting them at their place of work than at my hotel. At my hotel they know where I live and I think it's easier to cause problems and steal my stuff. Most of the apartments I went to are run by pimps so they are nice enough apartments that one of us might rent on a vacation there. Also I only carry like 300 k on me so if they did rob me, it would end up being the same as if I just had sex at la isla (robbed me). But in my 9 days there, I didn't go to an apartment where I felt unsafe ever.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2414981]Post].

But this girl was insanely tight. When I tried to put it in, it was hard to fit and she started complaining it hurt. She asked if I had lube and I did not so what am I supposed to do. Well if you can probably see where this is going and if you guessed I ate her period pussy out to get it wet, you're right. She wasn't lying about the fact that it was at the end of her period and it was only a little bloody (maybe medium well). Couldn't see any blood but could definitely taste it a little. But I plowed on through cause Mommy didn't raise a quitter (besides on everything else I've quit).

She may have been extremely uptight or high anxiety or something like that. Psychological problems can cause things to tighten up along with.

The dryness too. She needs another occupation if this is the case.

Slow down on your eating habits buddy boy. Finger test first for smell etc.[/QUOTE]Haha well she had already told me about her period before she came over so I knew what I was getting into. I was just thinking with my dick so I went for it anyways. But she definitely didn't seem like she was anxious. She's from the country side so she's definitely been through some shit that's way worse than sex with me LOL. Maybe it was the glue that was making her anxious LOL.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2415030]I was surprised by what I read by two of the posters on this thread regarding going down on Chicas while on their period or licking their assholes. Maybe it's a cultural thing for some, I don't know. Regardless I have to respect these posters for posting, albeit I wouldn't do what their doing, however I am not one to judge, and I am sure I do things others wouldn't do either.[/QUOTE]Haha if you asked me 2 weeks ago if I'd go down on a girl on her period, I would've said fuck no, that's gross. But it's amazing what you'd be willing to do when you're hard and about to have sex and the only other option is to not have sex LOL.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2415038]Woke up and decided to go to Veracruz again after breakfast. Man botero is fuckin dead on Sunday, actually all of Colombia is. Went with a 30 year old vennie named nicol, she was standing across from premier plaza. Perfect tits, fat ass, no belly fat, a see section scar but beggars can't be choosers haha. She could easily work in a casa. 35 k, 16 k for hotel. Premier plaza is a looooooot nicer than zona rosa for an extra 3 k. We fucked for like a good 20 min every position, she tried finishing me with a HJ but didn't cum. All good. Decided to check out the casas, bad choice. Barcelona not open, turcos not open, divine women looks shut down casa amigas not open. Went into new life, in the reception were like 7 fucking people mostly foreigners. Saw that and made a quick you turn out of there. Price for 30 m is 55 k. Walked over to trusty old casa Natalia. Dead empty, hidden gem. Went with Vanessa, 23 why. O paisa. 46 k. Face was a 5, but ass and tits are each an 8. I'm talking BAM. So add those up and divide by 3 she's a solid 7. Very sweet GFE, came doggy. Casa Natalia knows what they're doing.

Went to Poblado to see what the hype was about and man it fucking sucks, at least IMO. Like a Spanish Seattle. I felt less safe there than in centro tbh. People see everyone as prey. Took a cab to Santa Fe mall because fuck those hills, had a nice steak. Excellent mall, but tbh I prefer the grittiness of centro. Tho I saw some hot ass paisas. But why to talk to them and pay for food when I can just go pay and fuck one? Lmao..[/QUOTE]Dang JW, it sounds like Our trips overlapped quite a bit. I wish we could've met up. I definitely didn't fee too comfortable in centro alone but it would've been nice to be there with someone who spoke Spanish. I was also a fan of the 60 mil vennies. Seemed like their service is in general much better than the Paisas. One question I had was I definitely want to try more casas on my next trip but I had a hard time finding them this trip. I tried using the maps / lists but they mostly listed massage places. Didn't see any of these cheap casas with beauts on it. Any advice on this would be nice for my next trip. Feel free to PM me if you don't want to post publicly.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2415083]From what I read you got a room at the Mansion but didn't fuck any Mansion chicks? I get that the Mansion staff helps you, and that's part of the appeal, but the girls there are not bad looking. The two girls you posted, Gomez and Torres earlier, they're below the attractiveness of the average Mansion chick IMO. With the Mansion you also get to see the girls in person.[/QUOTE]Yeah I mean I regret how I handled the mansion. It was my first 2 days so I tried to start early and got tired out by night. But I also apparently stayed on the least popular days. I checked out the bar on Sunday night and it was only 3-4 girls and none of them were hot enough that I wanted to try it. Another bonus for the mansion I heard is that the girls usually service better or they won't be invited back to the mansion. I'll definitely give the mansion another shot but probably on a Thursday or Friday next time.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2415144]I don't think Fb girls is a challenge at all, I speak zero Spanish and I just fucked 2-3 fb girls a day for 21 days straight, using google translate, it is as easy as order a pizza. El centro is a bit more difficult, but it can be done using google translate; although the rooms downtown is little less comfortable than my Airbnb.[/QUOTE]It seems like we are having drastically different experiences with FB girls and we both speak zero Spanish. Do you do 1 pop and they leave after 45 min or an hour? Maybe the issue is me trying to get them to stay for 2-3 hours but I've only had bad experiences with that where they try to bail early every single time (besides Ieraldin).

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2415876]It seems like we are having drastically different experiences with FB girls and we both speak zero Spanish. Do you do 1 pop and they leave after 45 min or an hour? Maybe the issue is me trying to get them to stay for 2-3 hours but I've only had bad experiences with that where they try to bail early every single time (besides Ieraldin).[/QUOTE]Generally, FB girls want to hang out longer, if you have something fun for them to do. Some of the things that may help girls to hangout longer.

Beer and liquor.

Colas and soft drinks.

Fried chicken, chips and munchies.

Music, WiFi.

Party favors. You can tell them to bring their own.

These are girls with short attention spans, so you need to have something that will want them to stay.

I have been with Leraldin, she gave a decent blowjob, but when I met her, I think she had just breastfed her kid, so one of her boobs was smaller than the other. It kinda weird me out. It was me, not her, I cut the visit short, as I knew I couldn't rise to the occasion. LOL.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2415732]I think your in the minority on this one. Are you saying that if someone doesn't go down on a woman when she is on her period they don't love pussy. So for the majority of guys that go down on a woman except when there on their period then they don't love pussy. Doesn't make sense, if someone didn't love pussy why would they go down on a woman at all. I think both you and NormalAsiaKid are in a league of your own, but I wouldn't call it the Pussy Lovers club.[/QUOTE]You don't always know. Sometimes the girl doesn't know either. Ask some women how many times they've thought their period was over and ended up with bloody panties.

I've eaten a lot of pussy. Except with one ex, I never knowingly go down on a bleeder, but if I'm down there and taste blood, I simply focus on the clit and avoid the mess. I might end up with a bloody chin, but I'm not ingesting it.

For me it's the same as banging away and discovering blood on the condom. We'll clean the mess up later. No sense in stopping now.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2415876]It seems like we are having drastically different experiences with FB girls and we both speak zero Spanish. Do you do 1 pop and they leave after 45 min or an hour? Maybe the issue is me trying to get them to stay for 2-3 hours but I've only had bad experiences with that where they try to bail early every single time (besides Ieraldin).[/QUOTE]I've only had a few that were in a big hurry to leave. Most are happy to hang out. However, I pass on the girls who quote an hourly rate. I also don't push things and rush to get straight to work. I.

T helps that I take a lot of the girls to love motels and offer them a drink to start. Comfortable environment, music, hot water, air conditioning. Why would they be in a hurry to leave?

[QUOTE=ChicagoMan;2415753]Hello all,

I will be coming to Medellin from Feb 3-9 and then again 14-16 after a brief trip to Cartagena. First of all, many thanks to all that have dropped knowledge on this forum in the past. You guys convinced me to switch my dream mongering trip from Pattaya / BKK to Colombia and it's finally happening. I'm not new to the monger life as I have had a solid rotation of chicks running in and out of my house in Chicago while I get to play daddy warbucks and pay a few cricket bills. I have also have spent time in Tijuana.

Even though I have had most of my questions answered in the last few hundred pages, I do have a few more if anyone can help me out.

What would I expect to pay on seeking arrangement? I understand the facebook pricing to be 150 k-300 k (I know, 300 k is crazy but what if it's Selena Gomez or something) but haven't seen a good number for SA. I'm really into the "semi-pro" where the girl isn't a hardened hooker but could pass as a college girl looking to buy a pair of shoes. You get the idea. Any good place besides tinder / facebook / SA?

Eh maybe I'll stop with just two questions. I think the gummies just kicked in.[/QUOTE]Semi-pro is just a pro who picked up a second job. The college girls looking to make some extra money are like the guys online who were Navy SEALs. Lots make the claim, most are just making it up.

Not that you can't find what you're looking for, but telling the real from the fake isn't always easy. The one you might think is a hardened pro may be sweet and loving. The college girl might be the biggest hustler out there.

You'll find SA prices all over the place. A lot of guys are convinced SA is the place to find the untainted girls. They end up paying 400-600 k for a girl that happily takes 150-200 k on Facebook or at the Mansion. There probably are some real gems there, but there are also plenty of fakes trying to pass as the real thing.

The type of girl you're looking for can be found anywhere. But it takes time. No matter what you think, any girl who is willing to discuss a price with you, before even meeting you, is just as hardened as the girls hanging out on the streets. She just might not have much experience.

I will be in Medellin for a couple of weeks landing early super bowl Sunday. I obviously want to watch the super bowl. I know there are probably many places in parque lleras but wondering if someone can suggest something in Poblado? Staying in an arbnb in laureles but don't think there are many places to go to watch the game.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2416013]I will be in Medellin for a couple of weeks landing early super bowl Sunday. I obviously want to watch the super bowl. I know there are probably many places in parque lleras but wondering if someone can suggest something in Poblado? Staying in an arbnb in laureles but don't think there are many places to go to watch the game.[/QUOTE]My boy that lives there said there is supposed to be a big to do at the Mansion. I wonder how much they will charge for that. If you find out then let me know. I will be arriving the same time as you and staying in the same area.

Sounds interesting. I'll try to find out what the cost is. Wondering about sports bars in that area as well. I'm a Facebook type of guy and hang around the Laureles area but that Sunday I want to venture out.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2416017]My boy that lives there said there is supposed to be a big to do at the Mansion. I wonder how much they will charge for that. If you find out then let me know. I will be arriving the same time as you and staying in the same area.[/QUOTE].

Chick posted a pic with a dude from NYC and also posted this pic she said was a gift. She said they met at Gustos and hinted he wants to take her to Punta Cana.

Your reports are really informative. Keep them coming. Thanks man. Will be down there in a couple of weeks.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2415782]Woke up. Palitos de queso and bunuelos. Cafe.

Hit Veracruz at 10 am. Walked straight pass the clear glass floor thing adjacent the church, kept going past the casino, cross the street in that same direction (west?) and on the side of the white hotel building a sexy 20 year old vennie named Alejandra. Spinner with a little stomach pouch (no belly overhang but you know), be cups, nice ass, 8 in the face. Def gems here, she was hiding in the stairwell thing behind two fat chicks. Very sweet and talkative. 35 k and 10 k for room. Got her a 2 k Gatorade. Missionary and doggy, super tight. She didn't want to ride. Didn't finish with her. Walk over to Paris club on carr 47. Lineup of 6 girls, only half are fuckable. I take Nicole, solid 8, no fat, tight body. 23 year old Your typical sexy paisa you see on the metro and you're like damn. 50 k 30 min. CBJ, massage, cowgirl, doggy, missionary. Couldn't finish, room was hot, and she had bad breath in missionary. Would not go back to Paris, not really a good lineup, rooms are shit. Sw looking girls mostly..[/QUOTE]

Last year I watched the game here in Medellin in an apartment that had multiple cable stations airing the game. And all of the stations had sportscasters speaking in Spanish calling the game. After flipping thru numerous stations airing the game, I found one that had the sportscaster's who were actually calling the game in English. I was excited when I found this station, and was looking forward to seeing all the crazy commercials, almost as good as the game at times, but was disappointed when there was break, and there were none of the US commercials. This make's sense of course as there is no market in Colombia for what's being advertised in the US.

So the question is, does anybody know of a station on cable carrying the game in English including the US commercials, or a bar or other venue that will have the game including the US commercials.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2416017]My boy that lives there said there is supposed to be a big to do at the Mansion. I wonder how much they will charge for that. If you find out then let me know. I will be arriving the same time as you and staying in the same area.[/QUOTE]Of course there will be a "big to do" at the Mansion, and if they don't have a feed including the US commercials, well half time activities might be be very interesting and profitable for the girls that work that place. I most definitely would be a fish out of water at the "big to do" and wouldn't go even if I got paid to go, however recognize that some guys love the Mansion.

Punta Cana is an interesting choice. The fistful of bank notes seems an unnecessary flex.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2416024]Chick posted a pic with a dude from NYC and also posted this pic she said was a gift. She said they met at Gustos and hinted he wants to take her to Punta Cana.[/QUOTE]

The Hard Rock will probably have it on. Be advised it will likely be the Spanish language edition on ESPN Latin America. Some of the bars in Provenza like Bogota Beer Company show it. I don't know if that is close enough to Poblado central for you.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2416013]I will be in Medellin for a couple of weeks landing early super bowl Sunday. I obviously want to watch the super bowl. I know there are probably many places in parque lleras but wondering if someone can suggest something in Poblado? Staying in an arbnb in laureles but don't think there are many places to go to watch the game.[/QUOTE]

I loved your report, especially the part about the cops catching fade behind the Nutibara. That is classic Centro chaos LOL! Quick question, why didn't you like Zandaly? It's really popular on the Colombian local boards (doncolombia etc.). I'm looking forward to reading more. It's great to hear from another hard core Centro rat.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2415782]Woke up. Palitos de queso and bunuelos. Cafe.

Hit Veracruz at 10 am. Walked straight pass the clear glass floor thing adjacent the church, kept going past the casino, cross the street in that same direction (west?) and on the side of the white hotel building a sexy 20 year old vennie named Alejandra. Spinner with a little stomach pouch (no belly overhang but you know), be cups, nice ass, 8 in the face. Def gems here, she was hiding in the stairwell thing behind two fat chicks. Very sweet and talkative. 35 k and 10 k for room. Got her a 2 k Gatorade. Missionary and doggy, super tight. She didn't want to ride. Didn't finish with her. Walk over to Paris club on carr 47. Lineup of 6 girls, only half are fuckable. I take Nicole, solid 8, no fat, tight body. 23 year old Your typical sexy paisa you see on the metro and you're like damn. 50 k 30 min. CBJ, massage, cowgirl, doggy, missionary. Couldn't finish, room was hot, and she had bad breath in missionary. Would not go back to Paris, not really a good lineup, rooms are shit. Sw looking girls mostly.

I get a quick empanada, cig, mango drink. Pop a generic Viagra. I'm guessing these things are just meth because they give me a head buzz like adderall and make me need to shit. Head over to chicos punto com on calle 54 but it looks closed. There is a staircase with a black door but it's locked with a big gold lock. It's around 12:30 pm when I checked. I walk to akimas (next to bliss motel) but theres two guys waiting so then head over to club sexy amigas, the one that's a street over from dulce compania to the east. Empty lobby. Not a bad lineup, 10 girls, mostly 6-7's, 2-3 eights, mamasan really nice, great facility. Looks like a jungle den kind of? Have upgrades in rooms if you like. I didn't do it. 50 k 30 min. Ac, the works. Take maria ange, 22 year old Pale paisa with brown hair and man her ass is the best yet. The ass that makes your turn your head on the street no cellulite. I shower and we start DFK naked. Great personality. She's moaning and playing with her clit in every position. I finish in missionary with her knees to her chest as she's moaning. Great service. Every casa has been great service, no starfish or mechanical so far. Head to centro mall next to parque bolivar and have a bandeja paisa and 3 pilsens. 26 k. Delicious. Go home and crash..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2416046]Of course there will be a "big to do" at the Mansion[/QUOTE]Never been inside this place. Good to know it's still around incase I decide to go one day.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2416057]I loved your report, especially the part about the cops catching fade behind the Nutibara. That is classic Centro chaos LOL! Quick question, why didn't you like Zandaly? It's really popular on the Colombian local boards (doncolombia etc.). I'm looking forward to reading more. It's great to hear from another hard core Centro rat.[/QUOTE]Anytime man, thanks.

I didn't like it for precisely that reason, let me add more detail for other mongers sake. Both times I went there, there were 4 and 6 locals there, probably 40's and 50's, getting hammered in the lobby area. If you like this kind of environment pre-fucking the pros, then this place is for you. I don't like to hangout in an environment where I'm the odd man out, where those dudes all know each other, in a room that is maybe 12 x 12. An open bar area in Botero or Prado is a different story. Eventhough I speak Spanish, I clearly don't sound Colombian lmao. I also don't like waiting in a lobby with a bunch of other guys, I love empty rooms where I get my pick of the lineup. There is the higher chance ime that I get GFE from the girls, many of them have told me they are "so thankful" for me going with them, as sometimes as you can imagine people pass over the cuties with great personalities for the starfish hottie. This is also why I didn't like new life. I *like* being the foreigner in a place where girls aren't constantly busy, can give them a great backstory, make a connection, the sex is that much better. At a place like new life all the girls have heard every old song and dance. It doesn't do it for me.

Disclaimer: I didn't see the lineup at zandlay or new life. If you don't mind hanging out with guys in the lobby who may or may not be hammered when you're sober (zandlay) or hanging out with a bunch of gringos / foreigners / shooting the shit waiting for your girl (new life) then you should def go to these two casas. I have heard the new life lineup is really good, but it isn't my scene. Out of the (9) ? Casas visits where I stayed and fucked, I've been the only one in the lobby.

Woke up, metro to berrio. Walk to raudaul but it really is a pain in the ass to make rounds with all the blocked sidewalks because of construction. Asked one 30 year old classic paisa how much for 30 min she said 60+10 for room, I didn't like her vibe so declined. Only like 5 girls there, maybe because of the rain. Walked south to botero, did the loop twice, and the second time there was a tall morena vennie, 25 yo, Daniella, straight black hair, light tan, standing in that empty walkway on the museum side. 30 k + 18 k+ at hotel boulevard. I know they upcharged me 5 k but I'm not about to haggle over a dollar fifty. Got her a Gatorade. Really helps with service. She told me she's married and has 3 kids, her husband hates when she works the streets haha. Got here from maracaibo 4 months ago. CBJ, doggy, missionary. She was really into it, another girl who could easily be in a casa. Didn't finish.

Head over to casa Barcelona. Wouldn't walk in this area when it is dark, a lot of glue sniffers and sketchy types especially if you keep going east. Lineup of 7 girls, 6 fuckable, they were on the older side but total milfs. I'm talking american little league baseball milfs on the bleachers. Went with Esmeralda, 45 k 30 min. Paisa, tan, tatted, killer body, sexy face. 33 year old Fingered her, then CBJ, cowgirl, doggy, finished in missionary while she is whispering "quiero to leche amor" she was really wet, didn't need lube or spit or anything. She gave me her whatsapp. Rooms aren't bad, had a shower and TV, would go to Barcelona again. Recommended. Another casa with great service. Had another bandeja paisa near parque Bolivar, beers, nap. Heaven.

430 pm head to go check out akimi, but it's closed for some reason. What a weird ass schedule. Look into dulce compania but there's a wait. Eff that. Go next door to club sexy amigas on carr45 the. Empty. Good lineup, 7 girls, all fuckable. 45 k 30 min. Go with saory (yes that's her name LOL), thick alternative chick. Black hair, white skin typical Colombian. Pretty face, solid 7. Be cups, fat ass, flat stomach. Nipple, chin, nose, piercings. After a massage she gives a great CBJ, then we fuck in literally every position. I tap out and 30 seconds later a knock on the door. Great service, recommend this house, second time here. Good facilities.

Get home to Laureles, street food, rum. Viagra. Hit up this sexy girl on mileroticos, 70 k for the hour, an independent wg with her friend. I say be there in 10 she says ok. I ride the metro and get off at estadio. Then the bullshit starts. She says "amor my roommate has a client I can't meet right now can you give me 20-30 minutes". I think fuck it not again. This is the one con I don't like about Colombia, at night all the casas shut down and you can't really do street girls. Wait, another con is it's really hard to fins somewhere to shit. In the states you can go into any fast food joint and take a dump, here literally no place has toilet paper or the toilet seat. You have to go into a sit down place to find a good shitter. I'm not a strip club guy, can't see the girls in the dark light, and they're pro hustlers. So I stick to escorts. The thing is they are flakey as fuck, so you have to be really flexible. And as I mentioned in my last post, you can't run thru a diff girl in the same brothel every night as they're all friends and talk to each other about you. So I hit up mileroticos while in a salsa bar drinking a beer and hit up 5-6 diff girls in estadio. All respond sporadically. One of them says "amor come now 90 k for the hour" and sends me her address. No picture on whatsapp, who tf did I message? Greaaat.

Anyways I have to bust a nut with this Viagra, the pin she sends me is. 8 miles from la 70. No way I'm taxiing that shit, I'm a cheap fuck, so I say be there in ten. I take off my shirt and speed walk / jog to her location. It's on carr 78 a, the same brothel apt / where I couldn't get hard with the other 90 k girl. I'm trying not to sweat while sending her updates on whatsapp as I speed walk lmao. I catch my breath, she opens the door and it's this 5 ft black hair white vennie, about 150, but man all of it is in tits and ass. No belly. Like a little fuck doll. Super sweet girl. I could care less about GFE at this point, I just want to cum. She gives CBJ, we cowgirl, and I pound her doggy and finish as she's moaning. Think, cartoon ass, all natural. No smell too, which is great. Good service. Worth the 90 k? Hell no, but I needed the nut. Walk back to carr 70, get an arepa and metro home.

Last day tomorrow here, will try to go hard (and stay hard).

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2415876]It seems like we are having drastically different experiences with FB girls and we both speak zero Spanish. Do you do 1 pop and they leave after 45 min or an hour? Maybe the issue is me trying to get them to stay for 2-3 hours but I've only had bad experiences with that where they try to bail early every single time (besides Ieraldin).[/QUOTE]In my first two weeks in Medellin, I didn't know how to handle Facebook girls, they normally come in, have sex, and out of my apartment in 45 minutes. It is mostly a language barrier thing; at the beginning, I didn't use google translate as much as now. The girls I have in my apartment are all between 18-21, they're young, nervous and uncomfortable. This is not a termas in Brazil or a FKK in Germany, these young girls took a taxi for 40 minutes from their home to a strangers' house to have sex, they are definitely out of their comfort zone, adding on top of all these, there is the awkward language barrier.

I slowly learned to be not completely business like. When we talk on fb, I first ask their music preference, if it is something I don't know, I told them I love to learn, and I share my music preference with them (I actually like Bach, Mozart, Beethoven and Chopin, but it helps that I have two sisters, 16 and 22, so I can always find a genre of music that relates to fb girls' taste). Then I ask them what kind food and drink they like, I promise that I will order it for them if we have good chemistry together. Finally, if it is a weekend date, I always ask them whether they like tussi or weed (this is a personal preference, don't do drugs if it is not your thing). My last question is how long will you stay, most will say "a lot of hours". I have done this so many times now, I can almost type the whole sequence in Spanish, all muscle memory. If you get a girl that ignores all these questions or have a lukewarm reaction, who goes directly to money and hourly rate discussion, then you should avoid her if you want a long session for 200 k or less.

When she gets to your place, always prepare a few greeting sentences in Spanish (I just type them out on google translate), try to dress somewhat well, make sure your place is clean and smells nice (it helps if you have a big and beautiful place), fridge is full with Corona, and always have some whiskey handy. Complement her on her look, most of the girls I pick nowadays are an 8+, so it is easy to find nice things to say about them. Have music ready to play, it helps if you like to dance. Tell her to order food, dance and have sex until the food arrives. Watch the sunset after eating, dance more and fuck more. It also helps if you have a good phone with a great camera, they love take selfies with a good camera.

[QUOTE=ChicagoMan;2415753]Hello all,

I will be coming to Medellin from Feb 3-9 and then again 14-16 after a brief trip to Cartagena. First of all, many thanks to all that have dropped knowledge on this forum in the past. You guys convinced me to switch my dream mongering trip from Pattaya / BKK to Colombia and it's finally happening. I'm not new to the monger life as I have had a solid rotation of chicks running in and out of my house in Chicago while I get to play daddy warbucks and pay a few cricket bills. I have also have spent time in Tijuana.

Even though I have had most of my questions answered in the last few hundred pages, I do have a few more if anyone can help me out.

What would I expect to pay on seeking arrangement? I understand the facebook pricing to be 150 k-300 k (I know, 300 k is crazy but what if it's Selena Gomez or something) but haven't seen a good number for SA. I'm really into the "semi-pro" where the girl isn't a hardened hooker but could pass as a college girl looking to buy a pair of shoes. You get the idea. Any good place besides tinder / facebook / SA?

Eh maybe I'll stop with just two questions. I think the gummies just kicked in.[/QUOTE]I think a fb girl, between 18-19, without kids, is your best bet for semi-pro. Checkout their fb profile to make sure they don't have so many monger friends, chat with them a bit on fb to feel them out. One thing to warn you though, these girls use fake ID all the time, make sure you triple check their ID. Put it under focused light at an angle, you should see the water mark reflections.

Thanks all for the reports and the map. It's amazing amount of info.

I am looking for massage places or casas that allow BBBJ.

Or is it not a common thing in Medellin? Any advice will be appreciated.

SexOonMyMind.

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2415727]I follow her and enjoy the funny stuff she posts twice a day. Her tightness interests me. But why would you not repeat?[/QUOTE]She was good for a fb girl but I only really ever repeat if their service is a 9 or 10 or if their looks are a 9 or 10 cause I like fucking new girls. She was cute but I'the definitely call her more of a 7 (small tits, skinny ass that hurts In doggy, sniffs glue, not nearly as into the session as I'the want her to be). So ID by no means call it a bad session (was definitely in the top half of mine) but there are so many girls to be had that I think it's criminal to repeat a 7/10 session.

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2415729]I guess there's a "not" missing, anyway I wish I'd been to your college!

I don't mind bloody pussy either although there is a HIV transmission risk if you have cuts etc in your mouth, so maybe not something to do with the most promiscuous chicas unless you know their history well.[/QUOTE]Obviously I was not thinking about any STDs that I can contract through eating a girl out on her period. Is that actually a thing? And her pussy wasn't bloody LOL. I could just still taste it a little cause it's been bleeding but you guys have scared me enough to go get tested.

Day 4-Wednesday.

Woke up horny after not fucking the previous night so I shot off like 15 messages to milerotic ads seeing who would respond first. The 2 things I searched for were 18 YO (cause I found that it seems like the younger ones who aren't jaded yet perform better instead of the older experienced ones surprisingly) and promotion since a lot of ads were doing 60 mil an hour promos. Seems like there are a lot of mini casas in Laureles near my apartment so I started to form a plan in my head to tour them all. One finally messaged me back around 10 am and I was on my way. I get to her apartment and I'm met at the door by 2 girls that look very similar and I can't tell which one I was talking to LOL. They are older than advertised (maybe mid 20's) but still fairly attractive (maybe 7's). They proceed to tell me that they only do 3 somes (weird) but their 3rd friend who just walked out does solos. I am weary of 3 somes with girls I haven't tried before. I decide to go with their friend who is younger but a little overweight (5. 5-6 ish). I probably would've walked out in normal circumstances but nobody else had responded to me and I was horny that morning from skipping the night before.

This is where things get interesting. She gives me an incredible BJ with condom. Then she proceeds to start making out hardcore with me while riding me. Sucking on my lips so hard I thought I was going to get a lip hickey. Moaning the whole time, she was super into it, made me forget she was a prostitute. After I nut, she cleans me up then tries to "upsell" me. She offers me a BBBJ for another 20 mil. I'm thinking LOL if she thinks she can get me hard and make me cum right now I'll gladly give her an extra 20 mil. Sure enough, she gets to work and sure enough she got me cumming in her mouth like 15 minutes later. We spent the remainder of the time laying there making out. Tipped her an extra 20 k for the great service. Came out to 100 k for 2 shots, BBBJCIM for the second. 9/10 session. Would recommend and as you'll see, would repeat. Also, at one point, I asked to use the bathroom and she opens the door to check for people and I saw another monger come in for the other 2 girls. I'm guessing the other 2 already had a 3 some scheduled with someone so they were going to see if they could double dip with me and make him wait.

This is also the day I found out about menu del Dias. They are basically lunch specials from 12-3 pm. A ton of modern restaurants do a 4-5 course menu with a soup, salad, drink, main course, and dessert for 10-15 mil. It's a great deal and there's a lot of good restaurants that do it. Would highly recommend.

Had session with the girl that canceled on me the night before planned for 8 pm. Surprise surprise, she cancels on me again so I message the 3 some girl from earlier asking if she was free and willing to do solo (figured the only did 3 somes was a lie. Lots of lying WG in Colombia). She said yes so I head over to her place. I get into her apartment and she's not there LOL (guessing she double booked me again and was already with someone) so I decide to repeat with the girl I had earlier. This time she starts with BBBJ and is even more into the sex and making out. Most girls give you a BJ for like 2 minutes and as soon as your dick gets hard enough, they stop. This girl went for like 10 minutes. I was fingering her while she was giving me a BJ and she was soaking through her panties. 2 shots later, I'm laying there exhausted. I pay her 80 mil and leave. Another great session 9/10. At this point, I learned that service is so much important than looks. At one point, she offered me anal for another 50 mil and I passed at the time. Might go back for it since I know she has really good service and I've never done it before. I go back to my apartment and order some Colombian food from rappi and go to sleep. 4/4 nights ordering late night food.

TLDR: I learned that service is more important than looks.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2416043]So the question is, does anybody know of a station on cable carrying the game in English including the US commercials, or a bar or other venue that will have the game including the US commercials.[/QUOTE]Patrick's Irish Pub near Parque Lleaus will probably have a feed from the US, including the commercials. Hooter's and the Medellin Beer Factory (both locations in Poblado) will have the game, but it may be the Spanish version.

I would like to find a place in Laureles that has the game and also has attractive waitresses, but I may have to go to Poblado for that.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2415735]Your knocking your head against the wall here. After writing two posts myself about this subject, I kind of understand know where SJobs is coming from, or perhaps what his point of reference is. He's had such surreal experiences here, like having bareback threesome sessions that are beyond belief, like nothing he has ever experienced before. So incredible, that he has a hard time imagining how things could be much better if he spoke the language. I can see where he is coming from.[/QUOTE]If knowing Spanish can make things 1.5 x better in Medellin, then I don't want to know it. I'm already having a hard time going back to the sad reality in the states, having an even better experience will only make things worse.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2416253]If knowing Spanish can make things 1.5 x better in Medellin, then I don't want to know it. I'm already having a hard time going back to the sad reality in the states, having an even better experience will only make things worse.[/QUOTE]I understand exactly where your coming from, I guess going back to the States is kind of like a Heroin addict quitting cold turkey.

Hopefully you can come back soon.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2416230]Patrick's Irish Pub near Parque Lleaus will probably have a feed from the US, including the commercials. Hooter's and the Medellin Beer Factory (both locations in Poblado) will have the game, but it may be the Spanish version.

I would like to find a place in Laureles that has the game and also has attractive waitresses, but I may have to go to Poblado for that.[/QUOTE]Thanks I might walk buy in the next week to see if the feed is from the US at Patricks, if so I will post either way what I find out.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2416253]If knowing Spanish can make things 1.5 x better in Medellin, then I don't want to know it. I'm already having a hard time going back to the sad reality in the states, having an even better experience will only make things worse.[/QUOTE]Haha, that's funny!

The reality is there is no formula on how much better speaking the language will make your experience.

All depends on you.

For some guys who are personable and like to joke, flirt, bond, etc, the experience would obviously be greatly enhanced speaking the native language.

The electronic translator (google) works great, but really, it cannot replace jiving with a chica on the fly.

Not even close.

For others who just get to the point, maybe the enhanced experience wouldn't be as great.

Speaking the language obviously helps with the variables; getting around, unexpected things, etc, etc.

Keep on truckin amigo!

I remember the sad reality of returning and living far from the "fun".

That's why I now live between Colombia and Brazil and some Miami in between.

Think positive, study some español, you'll return soon!

Hey Johnny Walker,

Loving the report. I will be in Medellin in a couple of weeks. I don't speak Spanish. Should I try visiting El Centro or Veracruz since I don't speak the language. I believe Sjobs or Jjbees mentioned it may be too much for someone who don't speak the language. And how early in the morning are you visiting these areas? Thanks.

I love your routine everyday. Will try the same routine. A little bit of this and a little bit of that.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2416107]Woke up, metro to berrio. Walk to raudaul but it really is a pain in the ass to make rounds with all the blocked sidewalks because of construction. Asked one 30 year old classic paisa how much for 30 min she said 60+10 for room, I didn't like her vibe so declined. Only like 5 girls there, maybe because of the rain. Walked south to botero, did the loop twice, and the second time there was a tall morena vennie, 25 yo, Daniella, straight black hair, light tan, standing in that empty walkway on the museum side. 30 k + 18 k+ at hotel boulevard. I know they upcharged me 5 k but I'm not about to haggle over a dollar fifty. Got her a Gatorade. Really helps with service. She told me she's married and has 3 kids, her husband hates when she works the streets haha. Got here from maracaibo 4 months ago. CBJ, doggy, missionary. She was really into it, another girl who could easily be in a casa. Didn't finish.

Head over to casa Barcelona. Wouldn't walk in this area when it is dark, a lot of glue sniffers and sketchy types especially if you keep going east. Lineup of 7 girls, 6 fuckable, they were on the older side but total milfs. I'm talking american little league baseball milfs on the bleachers. Went with Esmeralda, 45 k 30 min. Paisa, tan, tatted, killer body, sexy face. 33 year old Fingered her, then CBJ, cowgirl, doggy, finished in missionary while she is whispering "quiero to leche amor" she was really wet, didn't need lube or spit or anything. She gave me her whatsapp. Rooms aren't bad, had a shower and TV, would go to Barcelona again. Recommended. Another casa with great service. Had another bandeja paisa near parque Bolivar, beers, nap. Heaven..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2416225] At this point, I learned that service is so much important than looks. At one point, she offered me anal for another 50 mil and I passed at the time. Might go back for it since I know she has really good service and I've never done it before. I go back to my apartment and order some Colombian food from rappi and go to sleep. 4/4 nights ordering late night food.TLDR: I learned that service is more important than looks.[/QUOTE]So I am assuming you won't be licking this girls ass, I think it was another poster who was doing that deed. And for the those that are wiling to lick your ass, they are called Rear Admirals in case you were wondering.

Regardless, your statement that "service is more important than looks", well your preaching to the choir on that one, albeit it's quite different for some with looks trumping everything.

If your an Asian guy, I believe I have seen you in El Centro the last couple of days. I was there around 4 PM on Wednesday afternoon and saw an Asian guy sitting with two other gringos on top of the glass covered walkway besides the Veracruz Church. If that was you, and your around the next couple of days, I will introduce myself.

And please, no posts that you couldn't control yourself and have became a Rear Admiral.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2416108]In my first two weeks in Medellin, I didn't know how to handle Facebook girls, they normally come in, have sex, and out of my apartment in 45 minutes. It is mostly a language barrier thing; at the beginning, I didn't use google translate as much as now. The girls I have in my apartment are all between 18-21, they're young, nervous and uncomfortable. This is not a termas in Brazil or a FKK in Germany, these young girls took a taxi for 40 minutes from their home to a strangers' house to have sex, they are definitely out of their comfort zone, adding on top of all these, there is the awkward language barrier.

I slowly learned to be not completely business like. When we talk on fb, I first ask their music preference, if it is something I don't know, I told them I love to learn, and I share my music preference with them (I actually like Bach, Mozart, Beethoven and Chopin, but it helps that I have two sisters, 16 and 22, so I can always find a genre of music that relates to fb girls' taste). Then I ask them what kind food and drink they like, I promise that I will order it for them if we have good chemistry together. Finally, if it is a weekend date, I always ask them whether they like tussi or weed (this is a personal preference, don't do drugs if it is not your thing). My last question is how long will you stay, most will say "a lot of hours". I have done this so many times now, I can almost type the whole sequence in Spanish, all muscle memory. If you get a girl that ignores all these questions or have a lukewarm reaction, who goes directly to money and hourly rate discussion, then you should avoid her if you want a long session for 200 k or less..[/QUOTE]This. I tried to say it earlier, but much better said here. I am still learning, so I can improve my experience.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2416230]Patrick's Irish Pub near Parque Lleaus will probably have a feed from the US, including the commercials. Hooter's and the Medellin Beer Factory (both locations in Poblado) will have the game, but it may be the Spanish version..[/QUOTE]I just spoke with Patricks Irish Pub. The good news is that they say they will be having the feed from the US including the commercials. And the bad news is, the manger told me that they don't have Guiness beer in Colombia. I was looking forward to some pints and am a bit perplexed as to how you can have an Irish bar with no Guiness, but we are in Colombia.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2416288]The reality is there is no formula on how much better speaking the language will make your experience. All depends on you.

For some guys who are personable and like to joke, flirt, bond, etc, the experience would obviously be greatly enhanced speaking the native language.[/QUOTE]For me, I like normal chicks and doing local stuff, so of course speaking the language makes my experiences much better. If it was just to deal with hookers then maybe I would not go through all the trouble. I am not trying to bond with them, just fuck them.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2415030]I was surprised by what I read by two of the posters on this thread regarding going down on Chicas while on their period or licking their assholes...........[/QUOTE]No way I'm going down on a chica while on her period.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2416020]Sounds interesting. I'll try to find out what the cost is. Wondering about sports bars in that area as well. I'm a Facebook type of guy and hang around the Laureles area but that Sunday I want to venture out..[/QUOTE]I believe Mansion parties are usually 150 k entry fee. The Super Bowl party will probably be the night before the game. Patrick's will have the game on, and Hooters probably will too.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2416024]Chick posted a pic with a dude from NYC and also posted this pic she said was a gift. She said they met at Gustos and hinted he wants to take her to Punta Cana.[/QUOTE]I wonder if he's the guy taking all the Facebook girls to Punta Cana? Seems like every other week someone is posting pics from there.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2416043]Last year I watched the game here in Medellin in an apartment that had multiple cable stations airing the game. And all of the stations had sportscasters speaking in Spanish calling the game. After flipping thru numerous stations airing the game, I found one that had the sportscaster's who were actually calling the game in English. I was excited when I found this station, and was looking forward to seeing all the crazy commercials, almost as good as the game at times, but was disappointed when there was break, and there were none of the US commercials. This make's sense of course as there is no market in Colombia for what's being advertised in the US.

So the question is, does anybody know of a station on cable carrying the game in English including the US commercials, or a bar or other venue that will have the game including the US commercials.[/QUOTE]Patrick's will have the game, probably including the commercials. If you have a laptop and an HDMI cable, you can subscribe to YouTube TV and hook up to your apartment TV. It doesn't technically work in Colombia so there are 2 things you need to do.

First use a VPN and set your location in a US city. Your home city will work. Then you have to set your browser location to GPS coordinates in that city. That's a little more involved.

Use Google maps to find your desired GPS coordinates. You'll get something like this: 35.1383976, -90.0460160, latitude and longitude in that order.

Once you have that, open your Google Chrome browser. Press Ctrl+Shift+I to open the Developer Console. Click on the 3 dots, bottom left of the window. Click "Sensors", click "Geolocation", click "Custom location", then enter in your desired latitude and longitude.

Now all you need to do is log into YouTube TV, choose your location station and watch the game.

By the way, the coordinates above will put you on Beale Street in Memphis.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2416288]Haha, that's funny!

The reality is there is no formula on how much better speaking the language will make your experience.

All depends on you.

For some guys who are personable and like to joke, flirt, bond, etc, the experience would obviously be greatly enhanced speaking the native language.

The electronic translator (google) works great, but really, it cannot replace jiving with a chica on the fly.

Not even close.

For others who just get to the point, maybe the enhanced experience wouldn't be as great.[/QUOTE]I think the biggest advantage of being able to speak the language is the things you don't consider. We all think about enhancing the sessions with the girls, but if you're picking the right girls, there's not much room for improvement.

Elevator conversations. If you stay in a high-rise, you're always bumping into people in the elevator. In Medellin, they'll all greet you and many will be happy to talk to you. Bars and restaurants. Whether with waitresses or other customers, there are plenty of chances to interact. Waitresses are often willing to go out on a date with a friendly foreigner. Street vendors, store clerks, even taxi drivers, all are good sources of information. Getting a taxi driver to show you around his neighborhood is an experience.

Probably the biggest advantage of improving my Spanish was how it increased my confidence. I had no problem going anywhere, but I always had this fear someone would try to talk to me. I didn't want to resort to my memorized phrase: "No entiendo. No hablo Espanol. " Now I can at least tell them I speak some Spanish.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2416328]I believe Mansion parties are usually 150 k entry fee. The Super Bowl party will probably be the night before the game. Patrick's will have the game on, and Hooters probably will too.[/QUOTE]I've never been to a Mansion Super Bowl party, but I don't see any reason it would be the night before, since the game is played at night.

[QUOTE=Jrealyo;2416293]Hey Johnny Walker,

Loving the report. I will be in Medellin in a couple of weeks. I don't speak Spanish. Should I try visiting El Centro or Veracruz since I don't speak the language. I believe Sjobs or Jjbees mentioned it may be too much for someone who don't speak the language. And how early in the morning are you visiting these areas? Thanks.

I love your routine everyday. Will try the same routine. A little bit of this and a little bit of that.[/QUOTE]Veracruz is a small area within El Centro.

Before deciding to walk the streets of El Centro, think about your comfort zone. If you live in a city where there are street girls, are you comfortable talking with them? Or do you slow down, get a good look and then drive off? It's going to be 10 times harder when you're walking among dozens of them and you don't understand a word.

Next, how are you with the worst areas of your city? Do you avoid them and make sure the doors are locked if you have to drive through? Or can you walk down the street relaxed? By Medellin standards, most of El Centro isn't particularly bad and some is quite nice. By US standards El Centro is scary.

I remember my roommate's family and boyfriend came from Bogota for Christmas. They wanted to go downtown to see the lights. They're all upper middle class and they were uncomfortable. We parked right next to Plaza Botero, across from Conejitas, and toured the plaza. The boyfriend never took his eyes off his car, even though 4 cops were standing 10 feet away. He nearly shit himself when we drove west from there to get to the autopista.

It can be intimidating. At times, the crowds are ridiculous. There's noise and garbage and passed out glue sniffers. There are people selling Bibles, beside people selling porn, beside a church. Some of the girls will try to grab you. Some of the trannies will try to grab you. Guys yelling "blue jeanez" will try to guide you into stores. Guys clapping their hands will try to guide you into bars. Guys waving menus will try to guide you into restaurants. Pedestrians do not have the right of way.

Whether or not you speak Spanish isn't the issue. It's whether or not you can handle the whole experience.

Myself? I love it. I don't go for the girls, although I enjoy the view. I go for the ambiance. I go to get plugged in, connected to the life of the city.

[QUOTE=Jrealyo;2416293]Hey Johnny Walker,

Loving the report. I will be in Medellin in a couple of weeks. I don't speak Spanish. Should I try visiting El Centro or Veracruz since I don't speak the language. I believe Sjobs or Jjbees mentioned it may be too much for someone who don't speak the language. And how early in the morning are you visiting these areas? Thanks.

I love your routine everyday. Will try the same routine. A little bit of this and a little bit of that.[/QUOTE]Thanks man,

Personally, I haven't had mindblowing service from a streetwalker. Every amazing sesh I've had has been at a casa. One, they are happy you chose them out of the lineup, two, they probably don't want to be replaced by another girl. The mamasans almost always ask how it was, and I say really good. I do the street walkers just for novelty, to fuck a 19-20 year old for 15 bucks. Like all those times you see a hot college chick walking down the street where you live, you think "damn I just want to take her to a room and bend her over. " well, that's exactly what you're doing in Veracruz. I go around 9-10 am every morning, and sometimes have gone around 4-5 pm. I don't think I have finished with a street girl yet, it just gets the blood flowing down there as a primer for the casa girls or escorts of which 95% I have gotten GFE from. Also, if you're standing in veracruz behind the church with your phone out, and they see you don't speak Spanish, you're putting a target on your back to get robbed or hustled. I think a poster on here got robbed there 3-4 weeks ago as he was looking down at his phone. YMMV.

Cheers.

Jw.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2416328]I believe Mansion parties are usually 150 k entry fee. The Super Bowl party will probably be the night before the game. Patrick's will have the game on, and Hooters probably will too.[/QUOTE]Seems like a rip off unless good food and liquor is included and I have never heard of a Super Bowl party not being on a Sunday the day of the game.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2416017]My boy that lives there said there is supposed to be a big to do at the Mansion. I wonder how much they will charge for that. If you find out then let me know. I will be arriving the same time as you and staying in the same area.[/QUOTE]Just posting this info here since the question was brought up in this thread. Feb 2 is the date. Time 3 PM. Price for guests of the mansion is 240.000 COP and non guests is 260.000 COP. "Cover includes food and open bar until supplies last" with the additional note that they never have run out of liquor. Never been to one of the parties but stayed there a few times years ago and keep up with the newsletter. Hope this helps.

DP.

This is hilarious.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2416307]I just spoke with Patricks Irish Pub. The good news is that they say they will be having the feed from the US including the commercials. And the bad news is, the manger told me that they don't have Guiness beer in Colombia. I was looking forward to some pints and am a bit perplexed as to how you can have an Irish bar with no Guiness, but we are in Colombia.[/QUOTE]

Woke up, ate too much breakfast food. Like 4 bunuelos and 2 palitos de queso, full af. Food is so cheap here, you forget the quantity. Metro to Veracruz. Man it is hot af today. A teen girl was like wobbling on the metro and her eyes were like rolling back, low blood sugar, like 6 people helped her lie down on the seat and gave her sugar and jelly. Cool to see. Did rounds at Veracruz and directly behind the church was this solid 8, I mean even the pickiest of mongers would think she was sexy. She knows it too, quoted me 40 k + 16 room. I said no, I only have 50 k. She said fine. Went upstairs, she has solid fake see cups and a fat ass. Literally no belly fat. Sexy face, paisa. 21 yo. Yessica. Funny her name is Yessica, she had a Jessica rabbit body. Missionary, she rode me, CBJ, doggy. Didn't finish. She showered before on her own accord too.

Thanks to knowledge's recommendation, went to zandlay around 1045 to try again. Only one guy in lobby, he had a girl he was waiting for, lineup was good, all fuckable. All 7-8's. 9 girls. As usual, took the girl who wasnt hottest but the best attitude. Aranca, 24 year old Vennie morena. 5 ft 6, be cups, no belly fat, and I mean fat ass. All natural. Everyday the asses get better. 45 k 30 min. As I was going to the room, 3 local guys walked in. Wew, beat the "rush". The upstairs looks like club amigas sexy, like a jungle den. She showered, CBJ, kisses all over body, cowgirl, doggy, finished in missionary. She was super wet, no lube needed. Great service, would come here again when it's empty in the morning. So far the only casa with shitty lineup and facility is paris. Turcos best room so far, looks like a spa. Unless you need to fuck instagram models everytime, you should have no problem with the selection at casas if you're cool with fucking 20-24 why. O paisas and vennies with killer bodies and cute faces.

After 30-33 girls in just about a week, I'm getting tired of sex tbh. Like it's becoming a chore as weird as that sounds lmao. But it's still great once you finish with the girl, she cuddles and you talk to a college age chick naked in your arms about whatever. At around 4 pm I meet juliana, an escort on mileroticos. Located on transversal 45 b in Laureles. 4-5 girls in an apartment. I get there, she told me she works as a nurse from 6 am - 3 pm everyday and does this on the side. 70 k the hour. An educated vennie, white, blackhair, 7 in the face, 31 years old, looks 27, perfect see cups that are fake but felt natural, literally no belly fat, nice ass. I get there, She gives me a massage. Now this is key, I give her a massage. I have given almost every escort a massage, they are usually thrilled as most guys don't do that. Talk to her, build chemistry, kiss her back, ass, etc. I sit up, she starts kissing my chest, works her way down, and then magic: BBBJ. Probably cause I told her I arrived yesterday and just broke up with my GF, hahahah, that helps. After 5 minutes I tell her to sit on my face, we 69 for a while. Then she rides me, DFK the whole time, I lie her down, finger her with two fingers as we DFK, I'm talking tongues dancing, she's soaking wet, tastes my fingers. Then doggy, she's moaning really loud. Finally for about 15 minutes, primal sex in missionary. I mean we are both sweating buckets, she has me choke her, knees to her chest, I pin her arms down, DFK, the works. Then I give DATY till she cums. By far the best session in mde yet. And I didn't finish! After sweating buckets and 30-40 min of hard sex with my third girl of the day and 31st? Of the week, my little guy went flacid. That's okay, I think I'm visiting my 19 year old little redhead novia tonight from the 70 with help from my friend Viagra.

Come home, chill, get an arepa near my apt. I don't see why locals like them so much, to me they're kind of meh. At this point I'm exhausted, but I got to power thru. My legs feel like jelly going up the metro stairs. I take a full sildenufilo, and visit my little redhead on carr. 70.70 k hour again. DFK the whole time again, shower together, I lost my rod after 15 minutes, so she gave me a massage and cuddled. Tipped her 30 k, she deserved it after being completely GFE everytime with me, after spending the day getting fucked by random dudes. I usually never tip, but you guys know how much those $10 means to them if you get the vibe. Good head on her shoulders. Good thing I'm leaving in the am, I was starting to fall for her, which is no no numero uno. So exhausted, almost fell asleep on the metro back.

And that's it folks. Amazing week, will be back in 2-3 months. If you're on the street or in centro, give any drinks or food you don't finish to the dirty homeless digging thru trash, they appreciate it, and others see that. As PN said, once they see you're just making rounds as a monger, they leave you alone. Not once did I feel unsafe or threatened anywhere in centro, tho I made sure I always was gone before 8 pm and never had my phone on me. 4 times I got asked for directions from tourists in Spanish as I was posted up in Veracruz chilling, if you don't see that happening to you, YMMV in centro.

I memorized the casas routes with google streetview before my trip, that was essential.

31-34 girls in a week, early morning flight. May swing by an escort in the am if I'm up for it. Thanks surf, Pollonegro, Tallman, Wolf, Jjbee, Enternational, and many other legends for your posts.

Cheers,

Jw is out! Hahah.

[QUOTE=Dpilzbo;2416384]Just posting this info here since the question was brought up in this thread. Feb 2 is the date. Time 3 PM. Price for guests of the mansion is 240.000 COP and non guests is 260.000 COP. "Cover includes food and open bar until supplies last" with the additional note that they never have run out of liquor. Never been to one of the parties but stayed there a few times years ago and keep up with the newsletter. Hope this helps.

DP.[/QUOTE]Is there a flyer or anything like that?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2416380]Seems like a rip off unless good food and liquor is included and I have never heard of a Super Bowl party not being on a Sunday the day of the game.[/QUOTE]I doubt if it's good food, but drinks are probably included. One of my email accounts is on their mailing list. The last event they had was a Chiva bus night. 200 k for hotel guests, 220 k for non-guests. Liquor included.

Maybe I'm remembering wrong. I thought they had the party on Saturday night 2 years ago. Or maybe the Super Bowl party I went to was on Saturday night. I need a couple of Club Colombias to jog my memory.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2416307]I just spoke with Patricks Irish Pub. The good news is that they say they will be having the feed from the US including the commercials. And the bad news is, the manger told me that they don't have Guiness beer in Colombia. I was looking forward to some pints and am a bit perplexed as to how you can have an Irish bar with no Guiness, but we are in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Both the Tres Cordilleras and the BBC Negras are drinkable. They're not Guinness, but sacrifices have to be made.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2416288]Haha, that's funny!

The reality is there is no formula on how much better speaking the language will make your experience.

All depends on you.

For some guys who are personable and like to joke, flirt, bond, etc, the experience would obviously be greatly enhanced speaking the native language.

The electronic translator (google) works great, but really, it cannot replace jiving with a chica on the fly.

Not even close.

For others who just get to the point, maybe the enhanced experience wouldn't be as great.

Speaking the language obviously helps with the variables; getting around, unexpected things, etc, etc.

Keep on truckin amigo!

I remember the sad reality of returning and living far from the "fun".

That's why I now live between Colombia and Brazil and some Miami in between.

Think positive, study some espaol, you'll return soon![/QUOTE]What is your opinion about mongering in Brazil compared to Columbia? Are the upscale climbs comparable with girls and prices?

I'm sure for many guys this is fine to pay. But not for me. If it were the States I'd go but this is Colombia. I personally want to have a few beers, watch the game and checkout the women. I'll probably head back to my apartment afterwards and plow into one of my Facebook girlfriends for the night. I will make a travel announcement that I will be available to meet on February 2nd. We can decide where just before?

[QUOTE=Dpilzbo;2416384]Just posting this info here since the question was brought up in this thread. Feb 2 is the date. Time 3 PM. Price for guests of the mansion is 240.000 COP and non guests is 260.000 COP. "Cover includes food and open bar until supplies last" with the additional note that they never have run out of liquor. Never been to one of the parties but stayed there a few times years ago and keep up with the newsletter. Hope this helps.

DP.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2416349]Thanks man,

Personally, I haven't had mindblowing service from a streetwalker. Every amazing sesh I've had has been at a casa. One, they are happy you chose them out of the lineup, two, they probably don't want to be replaced by another girl. The mamasans almost always ask how it was, and I say really good. I do the street walkers just for novelty, to fuck a 19-20 year old for 15 bucks. Like all those times you see a hot college chick walking down the street where you live, you think "damn I just want to take her to a room and bend her over. " well, that's exactly what you're doing in Veracruz. I go around 9-10 am every morning, and sometimes have gone around 4-5 pm. I don't think I have finished with a street girl yet, it just gets the blood flowing down there as a primer for the casa girls or escorts of which 95% I have gotten GFE from. Also, if you're standing in veracruz behind the church with your phone out, and they see you don't speak Spanish, you're putting a target on your back to get robbed or hustled. I think a poster on here got robbed there 3-4 weeks ago as he was looking down at his phone. YMMV.

Cheers.

Jw.[/QUOTE]Finding good performing streetwalkers is a challenge as your dealing with independent's, versus girls in a Casa / Strip Club who have a boss, and if there's a bunch of negative feedback they can get fired. You also are going to have to lower your standards a couple of notches, and speaking Spanish is huge, albeit others don't think so much. The upside of the streetwalker scene is that you have lot's of control, where as your in a controlled atmosphere at the Casas / Strip Clubs. There are some real gems out there and instead of trolling the backside of the Church with all the bars with the 5 K hotel rooms which all the Colombian men use try hanging out more around Botero Plaza at the street signs Carrea 53/ Carrea 53 are at in the afternoon between 4 and 5 PM as you mentioned. There are more girls out at this time than any other time during the day because it's kind of like a shift change. Girls start showing up, especially the Vennies as early as 8 AM in the morning and many leave by around 7 PM, whereas as a different shift of girls will show up later in the afternoon working until later in the evening. I am there typically most days at this time and sometimes find it overwhelming with so many women out. Primarily Venezuelans at this area where as on the backside of the Church with all the bars are mostly Colombians. I don't know what your Spanish level is, but typically I tell the new ones I try that if they provide really good service, they will get a tip above and beyond what is agreed to in the street. I don't make this offer though until I have "unwrapped them" and were into the session a few minutes. I had one a few months ago who told me she had a vibrator with her after we had showered. She turned out to be a nympho and it was fucking wild, and she earned a tip. So what's nice about the SW scene, is if you find a good one, almost anything goes and your in control versus the Chicas in a Casa with a boss on the other side of the door. I know all the other low life predators out there, commonly referred to as "Centro Street Rats", know exactly what I am talking about.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2416393]This is hilarious.[/QUOTE]Patrick is Irish American and a helluva good guy. I don't know why he doesn't carry Guinness but who gives a fuck. He's got sexy Venezuelans working for him.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2416304]So I am assuming you won't be licking this girls ass, I think it was another poster who was doing that deed. And for the those that are wiling to lick your ass, they are called Rear Admirals in case you were wondering.

Regardless, your statement that "service is more important than looks", well your preaching to the choir on that one, albeit it's quite different for some with looks trumping everything.

If your an Asian guy, I believe I have seen you in El Centro the last couple of days. I was there around 4 PM on Wednesday afternoon and saw an Asian guy sitting with two other gringos on top of the glass covered walkway besides the Veracruz Church. If that was you, and your around the next couple of days, I will introduce myself.

And please, no posts that you couldn't control yourself and have became a Rear Admiral.[/QUOTE]Hey,

I'm not against eating ass. I've never done it before but it's 2020 so I'm willing to try it. Definitely not with a 60 mil pros though. But thanks for reminding me, I do want to try having my ass eaten next time I'm there. And unfortunately I think you're thinking of another Asian guy haha. I've been back in the states since Tuesday but would definitely be down to meet up next time I'm in Medellin.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2416107]Woke up, metro to berrio. Walk to raudaul but it really is a pain in the ass to make rounds with all the blocked sidewalks because of construction. Asked one 30 year old classic paisa how much for 30 min she said 60+10 for room, I didn't like her vibe so declined. Only like 5 girls there, maybe because of the rain. Walked south to botero, did the loop twice, and the second time there was a tall morena vennie, 25 yo, Daniella, straight black hair, light tan, standing in that empty walkway on the museum side. 30 k + 18 k+ at hotel boulevard. I know they upcharged me 5 k but I'm not about to haggle over a dollar fifty. Got her a Gatorade. Really helps with service. She told me she's married and has 3 kids, her husband hates when she works the streets haha. Got here from maracaibo 4 months ago. CBJ, doggy, missionary. She was really into it, another girl who could easily be in a casa. Didn't finish.

Head over to casa Barcelona. Wouldn't walk in this area when it is dark, a lot of glue sniffers and sketchy types especially if you keep going east. Lineup of 7 girls, 6 fuckable, they were on the older side but total milfs. I'm talking american little league baseball milfs on the bleachers. Went with Esmeralda, 45 k 30 min. Paisa, tan, tatted, killer body, sexy face. 33 year old Fingered her, then CBJ, cowgirl, doggy, finished in missionary while she is whispering "quiero to leche amor" she was really wet, didn't need lube or spit or anything. She gave me her whatsapp. Rooms aren't bad, had a shower and TV, would go to Barcelona again. Recommended. Another casa with great service. Had another bandeja paisa near parque Bolivar, beers, nap. Heaven.[/QUOTE]Sounds like our trips have been very similar with the exception that you cut out all the fb BS I went through and replaced them with nice casa experiences. That's definitely something I'the want to did for my next trip. If you don't mind, can you pm me some of your favorite casas that you'the recommend?

Also, it seems like you don't finish in a lot of your sessions. Idk if it's personal but if you don't mind me asking, how does this work? How long before you give up and tell her you're done? Does it give you blue balls? Does it affect your next session since you've already been hard and fucked for a while? There have been many times where I'm fucking a girl for like 35 minutes and I'm exhausted but I can't feel my dick really so I can tell it's going to be hard to nut but I find that if I hold my breath and squeeze my leg muscles and hold them like that, it sometimes helps me get over the edge. The downside is obviously it is exhausting and squeezing / flexing my leg muscles like that for 5 minutes leaves my legs feeling like jelly so idk. Maybe it's just a lot easier to cut your losses on 50 k than on 150 k or maybe I just need to not try to get the most value out of everything.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2416108]In my first two weeks in Medellin, I didn't know how to handle Facebook girls, they normally come in, have sex, and out of my apartment in 45 minutes. It is mostly a language barrier thing; at the beginning, I didn't use google translate as much as now.[/QUOTE]Hmm thanks for the advice. I guess I could have been less business like. I guess it was just hard to not be able to speak to them really in Spanish and after a few exchanges, I'm lost for words and decide to just go for it. But good tips. Haven't completely given up on fb girls yet. Will still try 1-2 of them next time I go but think I'm going to stick to establishments mostly.

Woke up and didn't want to let my morning wood go to waste so hit up milerotics again to find a 60 mil girl. Found one in an apartment complex that was a 5 minute uber from mine. This complex turns out to be the one that has at least 4 mini casas but I wouldn't be surprised if every single room in the building were mini casas. Saw a bunch of working girls going up the stairs to a different room as I was going in. I wonder if I would be allowed to just walk up and down knocking on each door asking to see the girls in every room. The hotel should definitely capitalize on this opportunity.

Anyways, onto the session. The girl was tall (maybe 5'10) and skinny which I like. Probably a 7. Smaller breasts but not tiny. I was excited. Unfortunately, I had been spoiled by the service I was getting the day before from the other 60 mil vennie so her service wasn't nearly as good. CBJ, missionary, doggy, cowgirl. It seems like I'm always rotating between these 3 positions or rcg sometimes. Does anyone have any suggestions for other easy positions to try? Anyway, she let me kiss her but wasn't really kissing me back and had some light moaning. Overall a solid session 7/10.

Section about food. Feel free to skip.

Went to check out cafe cliche menu del DIA. Very tasty 5 course meal with salmon for 15 mil. They have WiFi and allow you to bring your laptop too so you can surf the web while you eat / wait which is nice if you don't know any Spanish like me or if you have to work. Got some more weed ice cream after lunch since I was feeling a little bloated and I had a reservation at Barcal restaurant later that night. Fast forward to Barcal (7:30 reservation), 11 course tasting menu that is advertised as traditional Colombian cuisine from across the country. About 200 k all in. I was pumped since this is exactly what I was looking for. I wanted to try classic Colombian food but the servings are always so big that it makes it hard to try everything. Unfortunately, I am going to be disappointed. There were some good and some bad but in the end, it felt like I ate 60 mil worth of food, not 200 mil. The waiter did let me substitute the mushroom dish for a second serving of something else which was nice and the atmosphere / setting is incredible. Right next to the garden, would be great for instagramming food if that's what you're into but I did not leave full. If you can see the foreshadowing, spoiler alert, I'm going to order late night food again.

Since I wasn't too full from the tasting menu, I decide it's a great opportunity to check out a new venue. At 11 pm I decide to head to fase dos. 10 k cover. Sat down, 15-25 girls, well lit, pretty nice club. I sat and watched the dances for an hour and half to check out the talent. Tipped the ones that danced well 2 mil. Most of the girls are 6's or higher with some 8's and even a couple 9's. One of the 9's was a short lightly tanned skinny girl wearing heels and a black shirt. The heels made her ass look amazing, looked like you could stand a beer up on it while she's standing up. I couldn't tell the size of her tits since she was wearing a baggy shirt but right when I was leaving, it was her turn to dance on stage and she took it off, holy shit, big fake bolted on tits. Incredible body. Not a shred of unwanted fat anywhere but still has an incredible ass. Still regret not getting a chance to try her but there was constantly a guy talking to her. Only knock on her was she had shorter hair and I'm prefer long hair. The other 9 was slender, dolled up girl in a blue dress. Tits looked like a be cup but looked so incredibly perky despite her not wearing a bra to hold them up. Beautiful face, long hair. Looked like a high class girl, you wouldn't think she was a prostitute if she wasn't at a strip club. Only problem was that for the hour and half I sat there for, she just sat at different tables with other strippers and talked to them. I got the feeling that she knew she was hot shit and was worried she was going to provide terrible service. But it's 12:30 at this point and I'm getting sleepy so I decide fuck it I'll go talk to her and see if she might be worth it. She was pleasant enough when I talked to her and looked just as good close up. After a little small talk, I ask her to do a little dance for me. And she says no, she will only do that in the room. That led me to think she was going to be just as lazy in the room so I decided to not pursue it. Ended up going with a taller 8 in a red dress. Long black hair, C cup, nice ass, great body (not as good as the 9. Could lose a pound or 2). I think what made me pick her was the fact that she was pretty pale and light skinned compared to everyone else. I'm not racist, I just had fucked so many darker girls this trip that I wanted to try something new. Anyways 210 k for the club, 5 k for the condom. She went to grab her stuff and came back with a cup of tequila and asked if I wanted some. I took a gulp not realize it was straight tequila. Rough. But we get to the room which is actually a separate building right next to the strip club. The rooms are actually pretty nice and clean compared to what else I've been to. There was a speaker / radio to play music. We showered together and danced a little bit to the music. Then we started hooking up. Covered blowjob. Light kissing. Some moaning. 3 positions. Came, then we laid there for like 5 minutes cuddling before I got up to shower and leave. Probably 45-50 minutes altogether including clean up. 8/10 session. Service could've been better but was by no means bad. Still wondering if it was worth it to just try the other 9. Overall pretty happy with the club. Ends up costing around 300 k for the night maybe more if you're drinking a lot but it's by far the hottest chicas I've been able to find besides ones walking through the street. Got food right outside the club while waiting for my Uber. Good night.

TLDR: only above average to good experiences with 60 or 70 mil chicas from milerotics. Fase dos has the hottest girls.

JohnnyWalker.

You are inspiring me as well to explore Centro.

About I am a black Canadian in his mid 40 who usually pass for a late 20 or 30. I speak a fairly good Spanish and I am not shy mingling with the local. I will be in Medellin end of March and would like to explore Centro mainly around Veracruz. You mentioned all the cacophony around this area and I have few questions:

1- Is a no to have your cell phone on you there?

2- when the locals try to push in restaurants or bars do you feel comfortable following them if you like the place or so you decline each time?

3- When you pick up a chica how do you decide where do you go or what motel to pick?

4- At any time do you feel threatened?

5- Where the best time to be there? For sure I am not planning being there night time.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2416349]Thanks man,

Personally, I haven't had mindblowing service from a streetwalker. Every amazing sesh I've had has been at a casa. One, they are happy you chose them out of the lineup, two, they probably don't want to be replaced by another girl. The mamasans almost always ask how it was, and I say really good. I do the street walkers just for novelty, to fuck a 19-20 year old for 15 bucks. Like all those times you see a hot college chick walking down the street where you live, you think "damn I just want to take her to a room and bend her over. " well, that's exactly what you're doing in Veracruz. I go around 9-10 am every morning, and sometimes have gone around 4-5 pm. I don't think I have finished with a street girl yet, it just gets the blood flowing down there as a primer for the casa girls or escorts of which 95% I have gotten GFE from. Also, if you're standing in veracruz behind the church with your phone out, and they see you don't speak Spanish, you're putting a target on your back to get robbed or hustled. I think a poster on here got robbed there 3-4 weeks ago as he was looking down at his phone. YMMV.

Cheers.

Jw.[/QUOTE]

An expert here can shed a light on the difference?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2416380]Seems like a rip off unless good food and liquor is included and I have never heard of a Super Bowl party not being on a Sunday the day of the game.[/QUOTE]It is on Super Bowl Sunday.

I went last year, there were lots of girls and lots of fun!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2416308]For me, I like normal chicks and doing local stuff, so of course speaking the language makes my experiences much better. If it was just to deal with hookers then maybe I would not go through all the trouble. I am not trying to bond with them, just fuck them.[/QUOTE]No big surprise there, LOL.

[QUOTE=Fassima;2416564]An expert here can shed a light on the difference?[/QUOTE]No really an expert, but it doesn't take an expert to answer your question. Vennie = Venezuelan, Paisa is from Medellin area (once I read that because of their being more isolated in their area for centuries Paisa have the highest concentration of Spanish blood / DNA hence their appearance), people / chicas in the Cartagena area called Costeno / Costena spelled in Spanish with the n that has a tilde and thus pronounced roughly like "ny".

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2416603]Paisa is from Medellin area[/QUOTE]People from 6 states are considered Paisas.

"A Paisa is someone from a region in the northwest of Colombia, including the part of the Andes in Colombia. The Paisa region is formed by the departments of Antioquia, Caldas, Risaralda and Quindo. Some regions of Valle del Cauca Department (north) and Tolima Department (west) culturally identify as paisas. The main cities of the Paisa region are Medellin, Pereira, Manizales and Armenia."

[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paisa_Region[/URL]

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2416399]After 30-33 girls in just about a week, I'm getting tired of sex tbh. Like it's becoming a chore as weird as that sounds lmao. But it's still great once you finish with the girl, she cuddles and you talk to a college age chick naked in your arms about whatever.
Jw is out! Hahah.[/QUOTE]Ditto that, just try living here and it catches up to you. Over the past 3 years I have become much more patient and relaxed when it comes to needing sex all the time. I don't think it has to do with me getting older rather just that I know I can have anything I need or want within an hour give or take. This changes your mindset from sex starved USA.

Right now in my apartment on my computer and sitting watching TV like 8 feet from me is something I brought home last night from centro. A cool paisa who may not be an 8 but when it comes to sex she is in my top 10. Got to love Medellin, and I will give her like 130 to 140 mil. Yes she is a repeat for me.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=DCups;2416540]Patrick is Irish American and a helluva good guy. I don't know why he doesn't carry Guinness but who gives a fuck. He's got sexy Venezuelans working for him.[/QUOTE]According to one of his managers that I spoke with she said that there is no "Guiness" in Colombia. So apparently nobody has it, must be an importer issue and / or taxation thing. Anyways there's some good alternatives available for sure. And I plan to be totally leche depleted when I arrive so I can pay attention to the game versus the Venezuelans but will probably get distracted!

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2416542]Hey,

I'm not against eating ass. I've never done it before but it's 2020 so I'm willing to try it. Definitely not with a 60 mil pros though. But thanks for reminding me, I do want to try having my ass eaten next time I'm there. And unfortunately I think you're thinking of another Asian guy haha. I've been back in the states since Tuesday but would definitely be down to meet up next time I'm in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Sorry about the mix up with you and another guy. In regards to getting your ass eaten, well I hate to admit it I have experience with this in India of all places. I forget the name of the City I was in, and I went to an upscale Massage Parlour and said I just a blow job and to fuck. When I was laying down on the table on my stomach naked, the girl started licking my ass which I had not requested nor had any desire to have done to me. It was pretty weird and the thought of what she was doing kind of numbed me from the sensation of it. However, I know gay guys love there assholes being played with and penetrated, so maybe we are all missing something, but at least for me no.

Regardless, you have an open mind, and I'm sure you will soap up real well before partaking in this activity.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2416470]Both the Tres Cordilleras and the BBC Negras are drinkable. They're not Guinness, but sacrifices have to be made.[/QUOTE]Those are good beers, and very drinkable yes indeed.

I will never forget drinking Guiness in Ireland on tap. Almost like a thick chocolate malt and velvety kind of like some of wives, unfortunately when the stuff arrives in kegs outside of the Country, it just doesn't taste the same.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2416611]People from 6 states are considered Paisas.

"A Paisa is someone from a region in the northwest of Colombia, including the part of the Andes in Colombia. The Paisa region is formed by the departments of Antioquia, Caldas, Risaralda and Quindo. Some regions of Valle del Cauca Department (north) and Tolima Department (west) culturally identify as paisas. The main cities of the Paisa region are Medellin, Pereira, Manizales and Armenia."

[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paisa_Region[/URL][/QUOTE]Didn't know that, thanks Mr E.

Thanks guys.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2416652]Didn't know that, thanks Mr E.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fassima;2416562]JohnnyWalker.

You are inspiring me as well to explore Centro.

About I am a black Canadian in his mid 40 who usually pass for a late 20 or 30. I speak a fairly good Spanish and I am not shy mingling with the local. I will be in Medellin end of March and would like to explore Centro mainly around Veracruz. You mentioned all the cacophony around this area and I have few questions:

1- Is a no to have your cell phone on you there?[/QUOTE]I always carry my cell phone. In El Centro, or on the Metro, I carry it in my front pocket. I don't pull out my cellphone while walking around in El Centro. If I need to look at my phone, I step into a business, or put myself out of the pedestrian flow. Having your cellphone in your hand is a good way to lose your phone.

[QUOTE]2- when the locals try to push in restaurants or bars do you feel comfortable following them if you like the place or so you decline each time?[/QUOTE]I never go where someone is trying to push me. I smile and say "no. Gracias" and keep moving. If I decide I want to try the restaurant or bar, I'll turn around, come back and avoid the tout in the street.

[QUOTE]3- When you pick up a chica how do you decide where do you go or what motel to pick?[/QUOTE]The girls all know of a place to go. Or check Surfer500's posts for his favorite short time rooms.

[QUOTE]4- At any time do you feel threatened?[/QUOTE]I occasionally see people to steer away from. I once had 3 guys fail at a poorly planned pickpocket attack. I've seen others get jumped and know people who have been robbed. However, I never actually feel threatened.

On that subject, there are some girls who will try to grab you. It's usually an attempt to pick your pockets. If I see one attempting to get her hands on me, I'll gently catch her by the wrists and tell her no.

[QUOTE]5- Where the best time to be there? For sure I am not planning being there night time.[/QUOTE]There really isn't a best time. After 8 most of the area empties out. After 9 there's no reason to be out unless you're going to the strip clubs, or hanging out in one of the bars.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2416552]... CBJ, missionary, doggy, cowgirl. It seems like I'm always rotating between these 3 positions or rcg sometimes. Does anyone have any suggestions for other easy positions to try? ...[/QUOTE]Try the scissors position. If you don't know that position, think of interlocking two pairs of scissors. Your legs and her legs are the blades of the scissors.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2416451]Is there a flyer or anything like that?[/QUOTE]No flyer for Mansion parties. Just email to former guests. Have not been to Super Bowl party, but always hit the 4th July party. Food is usually burritos, beef or chicken, and some sort of mix of rice, meats, etc. Drinks are all you can drink, jello shots, etc, beer, and they have an endless supply. Parties usually start mid afternoon and go til about 3-4 AM.

Thanks buddy.

So far I have only been to New Life. Had a nice session with Sofia, slim, 20-21 years old, darker skin. She was happy to change positions and not lazy a bit! 1 HR 90 mil. Inflation?

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2416552]Woke up and didn't want to let my morning wood go to waste so hit up milerotics again to find a 60 mil girl. Found one in an apartment complex that was a 5 minute uber from mine. This complex turns out to be the one that has at least 4 mini casas but I wouldn't be surprised if every single room in the building were mini casas. Saw a bunch of working girls going up the stairs to a different room as I was going in. I wonder if I would be allowed to just walk up and down knocking on each door asking to see the girls in every room. The hotel should definitely capitalize on this opportunity.

Anyways, onto the session. The girl was tall (maybe 5'10) and skinny which I like. Probably a 7. Smaller breasts but not tiny. I was excited. Unfortunately, I had been spoiled by the service I was getting the day before from the other 60 mil vennie so her service wasn't nearly as good. CBJ, missionary, doggy, cowgirl. It seems like I'm always rotating between these 3 positions or rcg sometimes. Does anyone have any suggestions for other easy positions to try? Anyway, she let me kiss her but wasn't really kissing me back and had some light moaning. Overall a solid session 7/10.

Section about food. Feel free to skip.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2416663]Try the scissors position. If you don't know that position, think of interlocking two pairs of scissors. Your legs and her legs are the blades of the scissors.[/QUOTE]Or just watch a few lesbian porn videos. It's almost mandatory.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2416651]Those are good beers, and very drinkable yes indeed.

I will never forget drinking Guiness in Ireland on tap. Almost like a thick chocolate malt and velvety kind of like some of wives, unfortunately when the stuff arrives in kegs outside of the Country, it just doesn't taste the same.[/QUOTE]Dammit. Now I want to go to Ireland.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2416662]I always carry my cell phone. In El Centro, or on the Metro, I carry it in my front pocket. I don't pull out my cellphone while walking around in El Centro. If I need to look at my phone, I step into a business, or put myself out of the pedestrian flow. Having your cellphone in your hand is a good way to lose your phone..[/QUOTE]The following are my concerns regarding carrying cell phones around Medellin.

I have two cell phones. One is my USA cell phone, an "I" phone, with Verizon service in the USA. It's my lifeline with my kids, business, and other matters in the USA. If I lose it or it gets stolen, there is no way I can get my number replaced in Colombia. That is what Verizon has told me. Hence it doesn't leave my apartment unless I am going somewhere very specific, etc. And I am grateful that when I got held up by gunpoint with my Chica about a month ago that they didn't go thru my pockets. All of my WhatsApp contacts are on this phone, everything. To further illustrate, when I use my ATM / Credit cards here I sometimes get text messages to confirm transactions. And all kinds of other types of text messages. So without my cell phone I can get blocked out of pulling money out of ATM's and then have to make a whole bunch of time consuming phone calls.

So my other phone is a Nokia Colombian burner phone. Not a smart phone. A lot of my Chicas don't have smart phones, and the Chicas I have that do, I communicate with them thru Whatsapp to arrange meetups, and they also have my Colombian number. I have lost my Colombian cell here in Colombia, and since I registered it, all I had to do was go Claro, pay a small fee, and was given a new Sim card which I pop into another burner phone, and I am ready to go.

I don't know anything about other USA cell phone service providers, and if you have a USA cell phone and can replace the number easily while away from the USA if you lose it, than I concur with you about carrying it around with caution. However, if not, I would think twice about carrying around a USA cell phone, regardless if your in El Centro, or El Poblado, as you could lose your phone anywhere.

So if your in the same situation I am in with a USA cell phone, I suggest you purchase a burner phone for like $ 20 USD, you will be given a number which I believe will be good for thirty days before it will be shut off if not registered, and keep you other phone locked up. I suggest service from Claro as they have offices everywhere while the other providers have very few offices.

I am sure there are other ways around this for the technical savy guy's on this board which I am not.

I don't what other members on this board who are in town this week have noticed, but on Thursday afternoon in El Centro I counted four pregnant Chicas working, and one of them looked like she was ready to pop. I've done a few of them, and it's always a little weird, especially when they are further along as the positions can be limiting. At least in doggie you may not have to put a pillow under them.

I am a big fan of a slightly different version of scissors. It is comfortable for both parties. Gives good pleasure for both. And at least for me, I can pound and pound.

On occasion I also like getting in the spoon position. On our sides and me behind. Also a good way to pound and pound and good friction from her pussy on your tool. You can play with her titties pretty easily from that position also.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2416663]Try the scissors position. If you don't know that position, think of interlocking two pairs of scissors. Your legs and her legs are the blades of the scissors.[/QUOTE]

Mmm, might go there just to pick up a hot Venezuelan? Does Patrick mind customers hitting on his employees?

[QUOTE=DCups;2416540]Patrick is Irish American and a helluva good guy. I don't know why he doesn't carry Guinness but who gives a fuck. He's got sexy Venezuelans working for him.[/QUOTE]

It really feels good to know that tomorrow afternoon, I'll be standing downtown centro. Yep, I have a 3 day weekend and I decided to fly down to see my dentist and check up on the girls in Parque Botero and Vera cruz, I'll be around the parque around 5 pm. Got a real hectic business schedule and will have limited time to socialized but I have about 25 girls lined up, I will only see 8-9 by Monday, to all that are in Centro, lets party, see ya real soon, Pollo Negro is out.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2416547]Sounds like our trips have been very similar with the exception that you cut out all the fb BS I went through and replaced them with nice casa experiences. That's definitely something I'the want to did for my next trip. If you don't mind, can you pm me some of your favorite casas that you'the recommend?[/QUOTE]No offence buddy but your trips don't sound similar at all beyond the fact that you both were in Medellin and got laid LOL.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2416399]Thanks to knowledge's recommendation, went to zandlay around 1045 to try again. Only one guy in lobby, he had a girl he was waiting for, lineup was good, all fuckable. All 7-8's. 9 girls. As usual, took the girl who wasnt hottest but the best attitude. Aranca, 24 year old Vennie morena. 5 ft 6, be cups, no belly fat, and I mean fat ass. All natural. Everyday the asses get better. 45 k 30 min. As I was going to the room, 3 local guys walked in. Wew, beat the "rush". The upstairs looks like club amigas sexy, like a jungle den. She showered, CBJ, kisses all over body, cowgirl, doggy, finished in missionary. She was super wet, no lube needed. Great service, would come here again when it's empty in the morning. So far the only casa with shitty lineup and facility is paris. Turcos best room so far, looks like a spa. Unless you need to fuck instagram models everytime, you should have no problem with the selection at casas if you're cool with fucking 20-24 why. O paisas and vennies with killer bodies and cute faces.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reports so far, JW. They've been great to read and it sounds like you've definitely made the most of your time while in MDE. Especially considering it was your first time!

Quick question regarding the casas: in your experience when was the best time to go? I always try to avoid the lunch break and post-work rush (as well as Saturdays) but was wondering whether there's a specific golden time period. In my experience most casas don't open until 10.30 am and even then the line-up isn't always the best. I seem to understand you love your afternoon naps (then again who doesn't LOL) so I guess you're mostly a morning guy?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2416662]There really isn't a best time. After 8 most of the area empties out. After 9 there's no reason to be out unless you're going to the strip clubs, or hanging out in one of the bars.[/QUOTE]Degreiff doesn't get started until 8!

[QUOTE=Baudelairemod;2416793]Thanks for your reports so far, JW. They've been great to read and it sounds like you've definitely made the most of your time while in MDE. Especially considering it was your first time!

Quick question regarding the casas: in your experience when was the best time to go? I always try to avoid the lunch break and post-work rush (as well as Saturdays) but was wondering whether there's a specific golden time period. In my experience most casas don't open until 10.30 am and even then the line-up isn't always the best. I seem to understand you love your afternoon naps (then again who doesn't LOL) so I guess you're mostly a morning guy?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I found the casas opened usually at 10 am, I would go like clockwork around 1040-11 am. I would usually be the first or second or third guy there, most casas don't get busy until the lunch break. Not to mention, the only casa gringo tourists now are usually new life and akimi, which were always busy. Dulce compania, casa sexy amigas, Barcelona, Natalia, zandlay, Paris (only one I didn't like) all had 7+ girls at 1030 am. Most fuckable. I liked this time because the girls hadn't been fucked yet, especially the ones who aren't the hottest, so they enjoyed the sex alot more imo. (clit rubbing, naturally wet). I also went around 4 pm, before the local got off work. IF there were people in the lobby, I would just walk to one of the other 5-6 casas in the 4 block radius.

Fassima, JJBee answered all 5 of your questions to the tee. I didn't bring my phone because I studied google street view before the trip, I knew how to get around.

Surf, yea totally, I shouldve gone more to botero and 53 and 53, but it was so damn hot that I didn't want to get all sweaty in the sun! I posted up behind the restaurant guys out front along the same wall as the pros hahah.

Normal Asian guy, basically, I just tell them I'm not going to finish (yo no puedo terminar). They don't care, they're getting paid. IE the morning of my departure, almost finished in this SW MILF in doggy, but held back. She didn't care. Then went right over to yakusa, only 4 girls working at 1015, but the mamasan Sofia said she was available! So finished in the mamasan during missionary with her legs wrapped around me after edging with the sw MILF. Really impossible imo to cum 4-5 times a day everyday, so I would save my finishes for the casa girls and escorts who were more GFE imo.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2416861]Degreiff doesn't get started until 8![/QUOTE]Hmmm starts way earlier than that.

[QUOTE=Hobbying;2416502]What is your opinion about mongering in Brazil compared to Columbia? Are the upscale climbs comparable with girls and prices?[/QUOTE]IMO, So Paulo, Brazil is hands down the best for upscale monger clubs.

Bogota in Colombia has upscale clubs as well, however, So Paulo really rocks on the that.

Rio I love for the beautiful negras and mulatas, and the sexy attitude and vibe of the Cariocas (Rio girls), and I'm referring to the ones I find and meet outside the tourist zone.

There are lite skin girls in Rio as well, however, I personally dig the sexy chocolate.

Medellin, Colombia of course is great!

Was better in the years of the past IMO, really only because being a gringo really meant something, something rare and special.

You would enter a Casa and the chicas would be giddy because a gringo was there! LOL.

Nowadays, just another gringo.

Now, being a spanish speaking gringo will set you apart.

Not required obviously, just much better.

Medellin is still great though.

The Venezuelan invasion is incredible. Love them!

There are a couple semi-upscale clubs in Medellin, but not near the level of SP.

Definitely some hot chicas, just not the amount as in SP, and the clubs in SP are bigger and more elegant.

I'm rambling on, LOL.

I could go on and on, however, in short; IMO, nothing in Colombia compares to SP as far as upscale clubs go.

Though in actuality, I'm not a high end club type.

I have been to all of them, however. I just find my type exploring other venues.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Balboa;2416879]IMO, So Paulo, Brazil is hands down the best for upscale monger clubs.

Bogota in Colombia has upscale clubs as well, however, So Paulo really rocks on the that.

Rio I love for the beautiful negras and mulatas, and the sexy attitude and vibe of the Cariocas (Rio girls), and I'm referring to the ones I find and meet outside the tourist zone.

There are lite skin girls in Rio as well, however, I personally dig the sexy chocolate.

Medellin, Colombia of course is great!

Was better in the years of the past IMO, really only because being a gringo really meant something, something rare and special.

You would enter a Casa and the chicas would be giddy because a gringo was there! LOL.[/QUOTE]In terms of girls' service and quality, Brazil is hands down better (on average). Rio is my favorite city, it is prettier than Medellin; especially if you are staying in Ipanema or Copacabana. In my opinion, Portuguese is a much sexier language than Spanish. Medellin is cheaper, paisas are very hot, and you get more of a local community vibe.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2416875]Hmmm starts way earlier than that.[/QUOTE]LOL. I was saying that to say that it does not empty out at 8 pm; not even 11 pm.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2416706]The following are my concerns regarding carrying cell phones around Medellin.

I have two cell phones. One is my USA cell phone, an "I" phone, with Verizon service in the USA. It's my lifeline with my kids, business, and other matters in the USA. If I lose it or it gets stolen, there is no way I can get my number replaced in Colombia. That is what Verizon has told me. Hence it doesn't leave my apartment unless I am going somewhere very specific, etc. And I am grateful that when I got held up by gunpoint with my Chica about a month ago that they didn't go thru my pockets. All of my WhatsApp contacts are on this phone, everything. To further illustrate, when I use my ATM / Credit cards here I sometimes get text messages to confirm transactions. And all kinds of other types of text messages. So without my cell phone I can get blocked out of pulling money out of ATM's and then have to make a whole bunch of time consuming phone calls..[/QUOTE]If you have att as your service provider, then just bring an extra iPhone and an extra att SIM card. Make sure you have a way to check your email (needed for two factor authentication) and make a phone call to att without your phone. I typically have an iPad and a MacBook hidden somewhere, I use Skype to call att. Att can activate your SIM card on your backup iPhone, iCloud will restore all your contents and settings. You will be up and running with your US phone in matter of minutes, like you never lost it.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2416879]IMO, So Paulo, Brazil is hands down the best for upscale monger clubs.

Bogota in Colombia has upscale clubs as well, however, So Paulo really rocks on the that.
There are a couple semi-upscale clubs in Medellin, but not near the level of SP.
Definitely some hot chicas, just not the amount as in SP, and the clubs in SP are bigger and more elegant.
I could go on and on, however, in short; IMO, nothing in Colombia compares to SP as far as upscale clubs go.

Enjoy![/QUOTE]I was on biz trip to SP Brazil 3-4 years ago, stayed in the hotel with round windows and brought girls from the upscale clubs for dinner / drinks on my company dime which helped reduce the overnight allowance I gave them.

While I love your comparison and agree that SP has a large number of high end upscale clubs, I struggled to find student-type, innocent looking, unspoilt girls in the age group that I prefer (18-22). Reminded me of Mayfair in London. Love story is the only place I could find that is where I could find them, and that's seedy and far from upscale. The designated upscale Hi-end clubs in SP most girls were in the 25-35 group in those clubs, and I went to all of them. It's a personal preference, but I don't like girls who've been around the block so to speak, even if they are Gucci-clad.

That's why I prefer seedier Medellin (and where I can avoid places like Gusto filled with fake boobs).

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2416894]LOL. I was saying that to say that it does not empty out at 8 pm; not even 11 pm.[/QUOTE]Yes, but the discussion was about Veracruz.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2416914]While I love your comparison and agree that SP has a large number of high end upscale clubs, I struggled to find student-type, innocent looking, unspoilt girls in the age group that I prefer (18-22).[/QUOTE]Brazil is not like that. School is free if you can pass the test to get in (vestibular), and most chicks that are in school have no reason to hoar themselves out. They do not have kids and live with family. It is the chicks that are not smart that are going to be the hookers.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2416928]Brazil is not like that. School is free if you can pass the test to get in (vestibular), and most chicks that are in school have no reason to hoar themselves out. They do not have kids and live with family. It is the chicks that are not smart that are going to be the hookers.[/QUOTE]You could say same thing about UK and EU and there are plenty of younger girls hoe themselves (as well as in US. Every girl needs an iPhone, I heard it's big in US / Japan also).

Don't get me wrong, Brazil is a wonderful country, certainly more developed than Colombia, it just didn't tick my boxes anymore (it did some 20 years ago when L'Umo and Help were still open).

I have two recommendations for your can't replace the phone number situation:

1. Get your US number transferred to any carrier other than Sprint or Verizon (all the other carriers use SIM cards).

2. Keep a spare SIM card in a secure place like you now keep your US phone.

If your phone and SIM card were lost or stolen, you could activate the spare SIM with your US number within a few minutes. Most of the carriers let you do it from their web sites. The non SIM technology Verizon and Sprint use was all there was in the 80's and 90's. The rest of the world carriers moved on decades ago.

If you want to get really fancy you can go with a dual SIM phone, but you would have to move away from the iphone to do that.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2416706]The following are my concerns regarding carrying cell phones around Medellin.

I have two cell phones. One is my USA cell phone, an "I" phone, with Verizon service in the USA. It's my lifeline with my kids, business, and other matters in the USA. If I lose it or it gets stolen, there is no way I can get my number replaced in Colombia. That is what Verizon has told me. Hence it doesn't leave my apartment unless I am going somewhere very specific, etc. And I am grateful that when I got held up by gunpoint with my Chica about a month ago that they didn't go thru my pockets. All of my WhatsApp contacts are on this phone, everything. To further illustrate, when I use my ATM / Credit cards here I sometimes get text messages to confirm transactions. And all kinds of other types of text messages. So without my cell phone I can get blocked out of pulling money out of ATM's and then have to make a whole bunch of time consuming phone calls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Junior11;2416735]Mmm, might go there just to pick up a hot Venezuelan? Does Patrick mind customers hitting on his employees?[/QUOTE]Employees are off limits to customers in all those type of restaurants. It's possible to hook up with a waitress after working on it for a while, but she will be fired in most restaurants if the manager / owner is aware of it.

Any reason I am seeing so many more women with tattoos in Medellin than other cities like Bogota or Barranquilla? In the USA, I do not mind a tattoo or two but usually when women have gobs of them, they are usually trash. I know that is a stereotype, but is there anything like that in Colombia?

Greetings Fellow Mongers,

My first report to this site. Hope you enjoy and I am open to comments and questions that you may have.

I arrived at Medellin Airport late at night on Saturday. I went to the first ATM that I found near the baggage claim at the airport to have some Colombian pesos on me for the trip. As I was walking through the airport I was constantly asked if I needed a taxi by guys just standing around in the airport. I would ask each of them how much (cuánto cuesta). All of them were saying 80,000 COP (ochenta mil). So, I kept walking until I got to the taxi stand outside where there was a group of taxi drivers. I asked if any of them spoke English and nobody did. So, I asked again, how much to my hotel, and again I was quoted 80,000 COP. So, I agreed to the price, and off we went. I felt comfortable that, even if I was getting the gringo price, I was getting the generally accepted "gringo" price. You guys should also take into consideration that it is a long drive from the airport to the city. On top of that, there is a toll of 18,000 COP for taking the tunnel through the mountain to the city. This route cuts down the driving time from about an hour to less than half an hour. When we arrived at my hotel I gave the taxi drive the agreed price without hassle.

I was staying at the Hotel Ibis was I enjoyed very much and had no issues. As I entered the building I noticed a very attentive security guard sitting at the desk just inside the entrance. The front desk did not speak English but I did not make it complicated for the registration process. I handed them my phone with the reservation confirmation open on it, my passport and my credit card I made the reservation with. I has handed back the phone and credit card. After entering my data from my passport I was handed that back as well as a form to sign (firma or firmar). I was off to my room to grab a quick shower so I could head off to my first club of choice for this Saturday night.

I forgot to mention, the taxi that I took to my hotel, he gave me his Whatsapp number to call if I needed a ride. So, after my shower I gave him a text to see if he was available and he was. He actually was downstairs waiting for me before I could get down the elevator. So, I asked him to take me to an ATM, so I could get more money. Which he did, a place that was empty, well lit, in a safe neighborhood, where I did not feel worried about grabbing a stack of cash. I did like the location of my hotel because it was rather close to my first destination. My first club that I went to was La Isla. The Girls.

So, I am going to try to give you guys as much information as I can from what I can remember of the club. I walked into the entrance of the club where I was greeted by a security guard who motioned for me to be checked. I stood sideways and put my arms up for a cursory search for weapons. They don't care about cell phones. I was told there was a 10,000 COP cover, which I paid and was on my way inside. As of yet, I still have not met a single English speaking person. All of my communication so far has been the result of my retained high school Spanish or figuring it out other ways. I walked inside to see a very open floor plan with a dance stage running along the center. When I was asked where I wanted to sit I set my eyes on the comfortable looking couches next to the stage. I was seated there and was immediately asked what kind of beer I wanted. I explained in my broken Spanish that I didn't like beer but would like a coke. To which the waiter asked if I would pay beer price for the coke. At that point I presumed that having a beer was compulsory or obligated either by being in the establishment or by where I was sitting. So, I agreed to the coke at beer price, which I am having trouble remembering the exact price. Since I can't remember the price I am not going to lie about it. So, I sat comfortably in my couch and enjoyed the view from around me. I saw a beautiful girl dancing on the stage, not really grinding or anything too strip club like. Just kinda slow dancing swaying. As I looked around the club I saw beautiful women everywhere. All of them pretty, although they were not all my type. As I sat in my couch, watching the dancing and admiring the beauty of the girls around me I realized I was in my element. This is exactly what I came to Colombia to experience. Just sitting there in comfort, not being hounded, and enjoying the view (I call it eye candy).

Shortly after I was seated, maybe 10 minutes or so, I was asked to move from the couch at the side of the stage to a couch at the end of the stage. I don't really know the reason for it, but I really don't care. I assume they were making a space for a couple of guys that sat down there. I don't know how much sense that made because the place they moved me to seemed to be as much room. But it was no sweat off of my back. So, I started people watching. Seeing how things were going on in the club. One of the first things you will notice is that the guys do, and can, be handsy with the girls. This doesn't seem to bother the girls at all. From squeezing there ass or tits, to grinding them during a dance. It was everywhere, all the time. The whole time I was taking this in I had some many questions. Like, what is the rundown. How much does it cost for this and that. With nobody their who spoke English I really had no one to ask my questions. But since I was in my element, I enjoyed the view and not being hounded. Eventually another group of guys came to the couch on my left and were funny guys to watch. They way the acted, danced, interacted with the girls, it was hilarious. Later in the night, one of them sat down at my couch and introduced himself to me. I am sure he saw how entertained I was be their behavior.

The first time any girl asked me for anything was shortly after I arrived at the club. It was the girl that just finished dancing on the stage. I could tell she wanted something but was certain what. She motioned to the small bills that were stuck all over her outfit and what she had in her hand. So, I figured she wanted a tip. At the time I didn't have any small bills on me in Colombian pesos. So, I noticed that one of the bills on her was a $1 bill (USA). So, I opened my wallet and grabbed a single and tipped her, to which she seemed very happy. I know I have read in this forum about "Propina". Which is Spanish for tip. The reason I capitalized "Propina" is because of it's importance, not that it was supposed to be. For some reason, the concept of the tip escaped me, maybe I was just overcome by everything I was seeing. When the girls dance on the stage you don't throw bills onto the stage, although it occasionally happened, you wait for them to come around and tip them then. Believe me, they will come around. To every single customer in the place. I call it "trick or treating", because to me, that is what it seems like. After the girls perform their stage show they will go to the back room, get dressed, and make their rounds. As they get to each customer they will ask for their "Propina". Some customers will just give them their tip or make them work for it. They do this by dangling the tip to see what else they do for it. Most of the time the girls will start twerking or giving you a lap dance. As long as you are willing to give them a tip they will keep on giving you a private show. You remember earlier, when I mentioned that I tipped the girl $1 (USA). I quickly realized that the 2,000 COP bills that they had on their bodies was a much more practical way to go. Not that they didn't deserve a $1 bill tip, but to make my money last longer. At current exchange rates, 2,000 COP is the equivalent of just under 60 cents. So, if you ever heard of anyone mentioning the 60 cent lap dance it might be because that is what it is. I kept myself stocked with the 2,000 COP bills for the girls whenever they came around I was ready. Some girls I would just had the tip to their pleasure. Other girls, that I liked a little more, I would get a little more risque about the placement of my tip. Either way, the girls were happy to get a 2,000 COP tip. The girls would definitely get bent out of shape whenever a customer didn't give a tip. I saw it on from their reactions.

As I write this report, I realize that I am kind of bouncing around a little. I apologize for that and how long the report is. But I am just trying to give you the information as I remember it. There were two things that surprised me by the environment at La Isla. First, as I gazed around at all of the girls at La Isla, and there were over 30, probably more. I thought to myself, "Oh, they have some girls that do stage shows and some that don't. " Not true at all. All of these beautiful women perform stage shows. Some more enthusiastically than others. There was this hit couple of girls that performed a stage show that was very hot and seemed choreographed. The other surprise to me is that smoking is not permitted in La Isla, however, vaping is. I was kinda expecting a smoke filled room but was pleasantly surprised to have a well ventilated area with a comfortable, no smell, environment.

I was at La Isla for several hours before a girl asked me if I wanted to do private time. Her words were more precise, "fucky fucky", if memory serves me right. I respectfully declined. As I looked around the room I noticed something different happening. It seemed a lot of girls were hooking up with guys. When I looked and my clock it was almost 3:30 am and the club closes at 4 am. The girls were trying to lock something down before closing. About a minute later a very cute girl asked me if I would like to go with her. I asked her for her price which was 300,000 COP, and I asked for how long, which was 45 minutes. I know, there are guys on this forum that say negotiate this and that. I am sorry to ruin it for you but I either say yes or no to a ladies rate. That is as far as my negotiating skills or strategy will go. As far as I am concerned the lady was well worth every bit of 300,000 COP, which is about $90 (USA). I said yes to her price and then we were on our way to the room. First we stopped by a place for me to pay the fee and then she went to get herself ready. Shortly later we were on the way to the room. I know some guys like a play by play report but I am going to stick to the basics. First, the girl was very attentive and into the session. She made me rise to the occasion when I doubted that would be possible. Eventually going into CBJ with lots of eye contact and lots of suction. I could have lost it there. Then she moved onto Cowgirl. She is very beautiful, very into the session, the service was outstanding and I extremely enjoyed what she was doing for me. As a man, I would like to sit here and tell you that I rocked he world, so to speak, for the full 45 minutes. In all actuality, I would say I lasted for 5 minutes. Yep, 5 minutes, that is about as long as I lasted. I could say it was her rhythm, how tight she was, how beautiful she was, all of the stuff that I seen through the night or all of the above. Truth is, it was everything I had hoped for and I only lasted about 5 minutes. There ain't no shame in my game folks. After I finished she was still insistent on making me happy for the rest of our time asking if I wanted anything else. Suggesting a massage, which I politely declined. I got dressed and asked her to do the same. Usually I would add a tip to the service. But since I was done with the service in half the time I figured I would just let her go on with her day. She also mentioned about just taking her shower at her house instead of at the club. After we were dressed we gave each other a hug and I was on my way. Completely satisfied with the night with no complaints.

I took a taxi back to my hotel. No issues with the taxi. I just watched the meter and paid the amount plus a tip at the end of the trip. I also wait for the taxi to quote me the number for the ride. Sometimes that number is smaller than the meter number, sometimes it is more. I don't know why that is but it has happened both ways. When the meter is running you can keep an eye on the amount you owe, when the trip is finished the taxi pushes a button and then the total appears. Sometimes this number is lower than the amount that appeared before he pushed a button. I also got really bothered by a couple taxi issues but I am going to save that for my Bogota report. When I walked into the doors I, again, noticed a very attentive security guard. Made me feel safer knowing that he was there. I went to the bar of the hotel because I was hungry. Asked if they had anything to eat and they gave me a basket of apples. I selected the one I liked and they gave it to me for free. I know these details are pointless to the forum, so I will wrap it up here real quick. I ended up staying at the bar chatting with a drunk Peruvian, and two Colombians. We communicated through my broken Spanish and the Peruvians broken English. The reason I included this info is this wasn't me. What I mean by that is that I am not a people person. I do not like to socialize. But at this time I did it and I rather enjoyed the interaction. I went to bed a little after 6 am. Which means we were chatting for a little over a couple hours.

Which brings me to day two. I am not going to bore the people of this forum with the details of my mall shopping trip. It was just weird that as I was walking around the mall that I was at I looked out and saw my destination for later that night. I don't think it is that hard for anybody to guess which destination that would be. So, I am looking out from the mall and across the street is Fase Dos. I thought, how funny is that. It was a Sunday and I have been warned on this forum about slow times. I didn't know what to expect on a Sunday evening at Fase Dos, both in quantity and in quality. I noticed, via the maps from this forum, that Fase Dos opens at 9 pm and I arrived shortly after 9 pm. Same thing here as at La Isla. A 10 k cover and a cursory search for weapons. I was also informed ahead of my entrance that the were only three girls there at that time. I agreed to enter but was glad that they told me. This is when I encountered my first complaint for this trip. Fase Dos apparently doesn't care about the comfort of its guests. Your seating choices are all either uncomfortable bar stools, or uncomfortable wooden bar stools. If you sit anywhere other than at the bar they require you to buy a bottle service. Two things that barred me from doing that. First, I don't drink. Second, even if I paid for the service for the seat, the seats weren't comfortable enough for me to want to pay for the bottle service. I want to say that they were charging something like 130 k for a bottle of Aguardiente. I don't know if that included anything other than the table. So, I sat rather uncomfortably at the bar the whole night. I saw one guy fall of off his wooden bar stool from the leaning back in it. I saw it almost happen again. The girls here are just as beautiful as the girls at La Isla. There is a lot of silicon as indicated on multiple reports but to my surprise these were very well done enhancements and not too many looking like barby doll enhancements like I saw with several La Isla girls. I personally do not like enhancements, but these girls it looked pretty good on. Some of them you couldn't tell that they were enhancements until you had the opportunity to squeeze them or see if they defied gravity.

Eventually there were plenty of girls there. There was probably more than 20 girls or so. They were all performing stage shows and coming around for their tip. Something I noticed at Fase Dos in contrast to La Isla is the nude part of their stage show. Fase Dos girls get completely naked for a lot longer than at La Isla. At La Isla, when the girl takes off all of her clothes, she is about 30 seconds to being done with the show. At Fase Dos, the girls strut around in their birthday suit for several minutes showing the crowd their goodies before ending their stage show. A lot of the girls at Fase Dos are Venezuelan as are the two girls that I hooked up with at Fase Dos. I want to say their names are Valentina and Roberta. They appear to be friends and were always hanging around with each other. I noticed them several times through the night and Valentina was making gazing eye contact. I was like putty in her staring gaze. The girls at Fase Dos weren't agressive or hounding. As far as it went was walking by in front of you and maybe sitting at the barstool next to you. I felt at ease the whole night, enjoying the stage dances and paying the "Propina". Eventually that night, Valentina and Roberta made there way over to the bar stools next to me. We started dialogue, mostly translating through the phone. Long story short, I asked Valentina for a Lesbian Show with her friend. They don't do lesbian shows but said that both of them together. The rate for the hour was 210,000 each for both of them. No additional cost for both of them together. I agreed to the price went and paid the fee. The girls went to get ready as I went to hit the bathroom. When I got done I had two beautiful girls waiting for me. Both of the girls were very attentive to me and acted into me. As we undressed in the room I dropped my pants on the floor. (I am laughing right now thinking of Valentina's response) As soon as I did, Valentina quickly picked them up, folded them and placed them up for me. I was thinking of how sweet that was. I eventually tossed something else on the floor, and, as before, Valentina was quick to pick it up for me and put it up. It was so sweet. The girls were dancing and swaying and acted very into me. I didn't have any problem standing at attention and the girls kept it that way the whole time of our session. The girls mainly directed the session of events. It started out with sitting me at the end of the bed and taking turns giving me a lap dance to moving me all the way on the bed completely disrobing me and the performing CBJ. Valentina was the first to perform CBJ. I have to tell you gentlemen, at this point the details of everything start to get a little foggy. I think I was going into sensory overload. As Valentina was performing CBJ, Roberta occupied her time kissing on my body and nipples and rubbing her hands on me. She would also kiss me on my neck and make breathing sounds into my ear. I felt like both of them were actively interested in my pleasure and were genuinely concerned with my happiness. After a while the roles were reversed. The girls were still taking charge of the session and I had not complaints about their performance. Each gave excellent CBJ and I had to try my best to keep from popping during sensory overload. Both girls took turns riding me in cowgirl position and while one was riding me I would be rubbing on the other one. Either playing with their pussy or rubbing their tits and going back and forth from the tits of the girl riding me. Both of the girls were tight and wanted to maintain a fast rhythm, which I had them slow down. Eventually I asked for doggystyle, which is when I was still being ridden by Roberta. So, I switched to doggystyle with Roberta. Again, very pleasurable and Valentina was searching for was to participate and pleasure me while I was going at Roberta. After Roberta, I switched back to Valentina, this time in missionary position. I think that position was her choice. After going at Valentina in missionary for a while a few things were going through my head. First, how much time is left. I actually had no idea had much time had transpired to that point. Second, it is starting to get hot in the room. Thirdly, I was starting to get physically exhausted. So, I knew it was time to wrap things up. I increased the velocity (LOL) with which I was having sex with Valentina and eventually got to the big O. I didn't actually intend to have two girls this night, it just happened that way. Again, another night that I was completely satisfied and no regrets for the events for the day.

I went back to the hotel that night wondering what my plans would be for the rest of the week. My hotel stay at the Hotel Ibis ended the next day. My hotel search for rooms showed an increase room rate during the week. So, I compared room rates in Medellin against room rates in Bogota. I found a good rate for a nice hotel in Bogota so I decided to go with it. My complete trip in Medellin was absolutely amazing with no complaints or regrets. I just can't wait to be able to do it again.

A special shout out and thanks to Mr. E and all forum members for their contributions to this site. Who's valuable research and reports were much appreciated by me and this trip would not have been possible with out it. Again, thanks!

Gentleman, please go easy on me. I am asking you to ask me any questions you may have. Comments are welcome as well. Remember, different strokes for different folks and to each their own. I will also be posting a report about my time in Bogota which did not go off as well as it did in Medellin.

LurkerNoMas.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2416921]Yes, but the discussion was about Veracruz.[/QUOTE]Sorry. In that case I am not familiar with the Veracruz strip clubs. What are they?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2416662]There really isn't a best time. After 8 most of the area empties out. After 9 there's no reason to be out unless you're going to the strip clubs,[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2416953]I have two recommendations for your can't replace the phone number situation:

1. Get your US number transferred to any carrier other than Sprint or Verizon (all the other carriers use SIM cards).

2. Keep a spare SIM card in a secure place like you now keep your US phone.

If your phone and SIM card were lost or stolen, you could activate the spare SIM with your US number within a few minutes. Most of the carriers let you do it from their web sites. The non SIM technology Verizon and Sprint use was all there was in the 80's and 90's. The rest of the world carriers moved on decades ago.

If you want to get really fancy you can go with a dual SIM phone, but you would have to move away from the iphone to do that.[/QUOTE]This is good information, however I am reluctant to change carriers in that the Verizon service internationally has been excellent. I've been all over the world with no problems receiving and making calls when I cannot use Whatsapp.

Any recommendations for another carrier with equal service, and I know Verizon is expensive.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2416910]If you have att as your service provider, then just bring an extra iPhone and an extra att SIM card. Make sure you have a way to check your email (needed for two factor authentication) and make a phone call to att without your phone. I typically have an iPad and a MacBook hidden somewhere, I use Skype to call att. Att can activate your SIM card on your backup iPhone, iCloud will restore all your contents and settings. You will be up and running with your US phone in matter of minutes, like you never lost it.[/QUOTE]This is were I fall down being a old school, technically challenged guy, versus you younger bucks. I can do WhatsApp and am clueless how to back shit up.

Regardless, how is AT&T's service worldwide. Do they offer what Verizon does. As an example, while travelling in Monteverde and Albania (not places to monger) last fall, I switched over to the $ 10 a International day plan and my phone functioned like I was at home in the US.

Arrived at ground zero at 4:30 PM on Saturday looking for one of my street urchins and noticed a large crowd in front of the Veracruz Church with an approximate 100 foot wide area cordoned off by the police. There was quite a crowd, perhaps two hundred people watching while a coroner and helper were processing an older dead Colombian about five feet away from the main entry into the Church. An interesting crowd with the She-males territory being taken over by all the on lookers including lots of hookers. So the guy helping the coroner was going thru the dead guys stuff in his pockets and handing it over to the Coroner and than they finally put the guy on the gurney and carted him off.

I can only imagine that this poor old Colombian was trying to make it inside the Church to repent, but collapsed before he could make it. Just another day in El Centro.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2416972]Employees are off limits to customers in all those type of restaurants. It's possible to hook up with a waitress after working on it for a while, but she will be fired in most restaurants if the manager / owner is aware of it.[/QUOTE]Are you saying that if a waitress elects to hook up with a customer outside of work on their own time they will be fired? Doesn't make sense to me in that you would think that an employee can do whatever they want on their own time, outside of work.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2417030]Sorry. In that case I am not familiar with the Veracruz strip clubs. What are they?[/QUOTE]I think the OP is talking about street girls.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2416953]
If you want to get really fancy you can go with a dual SIM phone, but you would have to move away from the iphone to do that.[/QUOTE]Current iphone is duel sim. You can have more than 2 numbers but only 2 can be active.

My perception, based on many years visiting, is that chicas from the low-end barrios are much more likely to have tatoos, especially larger tatoos that are often not well done. That said, some of the girls I have met with tatoos (even bad ones) can be very sweet. It's just part of their barrio life, I guess. I personally can tolerate a few smaller tatoos, but I do not go with chicas who are covered with them or have large, ugly ones. It's a turn-off for me.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2417020]Any reason I am seeing so many more women with tattoos in Medellin than other cities like Bogota or Barranquilla? In the USA, I do not mind a tattoo or two but usually when women have gobs of them, they are usually trash. I know that is a stereotype, but is there anything like that in Colombia?[/QUOTE]

That is true in Colombia, and in all of the more than 30 other countries where I've been.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2417054]My perception, based on many years visiting, is that chicas from the low-end barrios are much more likely to have tatoos, especially larger tatoos that are often not well done. That said, some of the girls I have met with tatoos (even bad ones) can be very sweet. It's just part of their barrio life, I guess. I personally can tolerate a few smaller tatoos, but I do not go with chicas who are covered with them or have large, ugly ones. It's a turn-off for me.[/QUOTE]

It's an eSIM in the iphone, similar but not quite the same thing. I should have mentioned that people who travel internationally on a regular basis are best served by networked unlocked phones. Network unlocked means the phone will accept any SIM card. The iphone and other phones with eSIMs that also support a physical SIM will work the way I described. You can activate spare SIM cards from the home country from outside the country.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2417053]Current iphone is duel sim. You can have more than 2 numbers but only 2 can be active.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2417030]Sorry. In that case I am not familiar with the Veracruz strip clubs. What are they?[/QUOTE]The post I responded to, the guy said he was considering going to El Centro or Veracruz. You can go to El Centro without going to Veracruz, but not vice versa. If he's going to El Centro to go to Veracruz, after 8 pm he's not going to find much of a selection. If he's going to El Centro after 9 pm, since he doesn't speak Spanish and doesn't know the area, in my opinion, he shouldn't go wandering around looking for action. Which leaves, for him, the strip clubs, as the only destination I'd recommend late night.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2417020]Any reason I am seeing so many more women with tattoos in Medellin than other cities like Bogota or Barranquilla? In the USA, I do not mind a tattoo or two but usually when women have gobs of them, they are usually trash. I know that is a stereotype, but is there anything like that in Colombia?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2417054]My perception, based on many years visiting, is that chicas from the low-end barrios are much more likely to have tatoos, especially larger tatoos that are often not well done. That said, some of the girls I have met with tatoos (even bad ones) can be very sweet. It's just part of their barrio life, I guess. I personally can tolerate a few smaller tatoos, but I do not go with chicas who are covered with them or have large, ugly ones. It's a turn-off for me.[/QUOTE]I agree with ColombianLover, I have been with chicas with tattoos who are very sweet and they come from the poorer barrios. I think after looking at many many FB profiles and the older photos of these chicas that most of them seem to get the tattoos when they are young teens and tweens before they are old enough to know any better.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2416914]I was on biz trip to SP Brazil 3-4 years ago, stayed in the hotel with round windows and brought girls from the upscale clubs for dinner / drinks on my company dime which helped reduce the overnight allowance I gave them.

While I love your comparison and agree that SP has a large number of high end upscale clubs, I struggled to find student-type, innocent looking, unspoilt girls in the age group that I prefer (18-22). Reminded me of Mayfair in London. Love story is the only place I could find that is where I could find them, and that's seedy and far from upscale. The designated upscale Hi-end clubs in SP most girls were in the 25-35 group in those clubs, and I went to all of them. It's a personal preference, but I don't like girls who've been around the block so to speak, even if they are Gucci-clad.

That's why I prefer seedier Medellin (and where I can avoid places like Gusto filled with fake boobs).[/QUOTE]I hear what you're saying, and like I said in my post, I'm not really a high end club type of guy.

For the reason you stated above, plus I can find girls for way less money than in the high end clubs.

I was commenting on the high end clubs because I was asked about them.

Also, trust me, I've been hanging in SP for over 15 years, it can be just as seedy as Medellin, and the younger (18-22) girls are available.

You just have to know where to explore and find them.

And there is way less other gringo competition for them.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2416706]The following are my concerns regarding carrying cell phones around Medellin.

And I am grateful that when I got held up by gunpoint with my Chica about a month ago that they didn't go thru my pockets. All of my WhatsApp contacts are on this phone, everything..[/QUOTE]Surfer500 , can you please tell more about the story of being held by gunpoint. I am going there first time so curious to know.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2417030]Sorry. In that case I am not familiar with the Veracruz strip clubs. What are they?[/QUOTE]Generally speaking when anyone mentions El Centro they are talking about the street scene unless they specifically mentioning the bars or strip clubs. The street scene is mostly done at 8 pm. The chance of you finding an acceptable partner at 1 am is maybe 5% and a hottie at that time is about. 01%. Everyone knows you can do it. But we simpletons are not you. JjBee62 specifically pointed out except strip clubs and should have said bars too. Instead of being destructive try being constructive.

Example:

In El Centro in 80% of the time (always exceptions 20%.

Bars Open X Close Z.

Strip Clubs Open X Close Z.

Street Scene Opens 8 am Closes 8 pm.

Notice I only list the street scene because that is all I know. I do not know when the bars or strip clubs open or close. You could have provided that but chose to try to bash another member with your time instead.

The Tall Man posts much less often that he use to but for what it is worth just wanted to share my experience from yesterday (Saturday January 25,2020) and my visit to 2 casas in Medellin which I have not done in 2 or 3 years.

8 or 9 years ago I frequented the casas but much less in the intertwining years. It has been about 2 plus years since my last visit to New Life and a good 3 plus years since my last visit to Energy.

As you might summarize I am not much of a casas person anymore as I find the off the radar, non-pro or chicas needing financial help more my style here in Medellin, but wanted to see what exactly would I experience and if / how things may have changed over the past 8 or 9 years at these two casas.

So I started at ENERGY, decent line up at about noon on Saturday January 25th, maybe a dozen chicas ranging from 6. 5 to on a good day a 7.5 scale, I choose a costena, 25 yo, slender dark skinned but on hell of a smile, a good choice as she was professional but just enough playfulness to make the 1 hour very enjoyable.

BTW. The cost for ENERGY is now at 145,000 for 45 minutes and 160,000 for 1 hours.

So after my one hour at Energy I made my way over to New Life. Upon entering there were about 8 other guys sitting and waiting for their turn or still making their selection. The parade of chicas made their way around and they had probably 15 give or take in the line up, chicas of all sorts of body type and skin color, I would say they ranged from 6 to a solid 8, I was much more impressed by the selection and overall quality.

Well they had 3 very slender chicas that got my grove so the most difficult part is making the final selection as any one of the 3 were made to order for my style.

I choose the 19 yo Venezuelan Bianca, thin with not an ounce of body fat and the face an angle, kid you not. She is new and very inexperienced, little kissing but with a body and a face she could be a teen model for Abercrombie & Fitch, kid you not, just the thrill of having sex with this beauty is worth the price of admission.

The cost of 1 hour at New Life was 80 mil as I recall, also purchased a Gatorade for the both of us.

So all in all I enjoyed my return to ENERGY and New Life after a 3 plus year haitus.

I must admit that it is a nice change up to my regular centro, non-pro and stable of girls that I usually see. The price is right and I was satisfied with both my chicas at New Life and ENERGY.

Would I return, yes it is what it is. While in both casas I could not help but to reminisce in my mind about some truly unforgettable and absolutely incredible experiences that I had at both places back 8 and 9 years ago.

The Tall Man.

It's even easier than that. In spite of what Apple propaganda promotes, you don't really need their hardware to restore icloud content or iPhone configuration backups. I agree a spare iPhone (or an unlocked one you buy if and when you need it) avoids the need for anything beyond contacting your carrier. Also, you don't have to be an at&t customer, any GSM based carrier (anything other than Sprint or Verizon) can do the same thing.

OK, back to girls. Is Aisha spa really as good as guys are saying??

[QUOTE=SJobs;2416910]If you have att as your service provider, then just bring an extra iPhone and an extra att SIM card. Make sure you have a way to check your email (needed for two factor authentication) and make a phone call to att without your phone. I typically have an iPad and a MacBook hidden somewhere, I use Skype to call att. Att can activate your SIM card on your backup iPhone, iCloud will restore all your contents and settings. You will be up and running with your US phone in matter of minutes, like you never lost it.[/QUOTE]

Google Fi which I have recommended on this forum many times for its low cost international data provides an easy solution. You can check your voicemails and text messages from any internet connection. I dropped my phone on the first day (in the immigration hall) of my last month long MDE trip. While nothing cracked, the screen died. I quickly accessed all my text messages, voice mails and even made and received phone calls from my tablet and backup phone using Google Hangouts. Transferring my whatsapp and other critical apps over took 10 minutes. No time consuming calls. If you phone is stolen, you can wipe the phone with the click of a button. Google also provides a 2nd sim card which I already had in a cheap backup cell phone ($60 Moto G6). I was surprised how well that cheap phone met my needs. Like you I'm concerned about loosing my phone (for all the same reasons) so I travel with a cheap backup. I don't bother with a local Colombian number any more, it is just too convenient to have one number and one main phone. BTW Google replaced my phone under warranty after I returned to the US, it had no cracks or dents on it. There were some limitations with Iphones, which I think could be one of the few negatives with Google if you are an Iphone aficionado. They have information about that on their web site.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2416706]The following are my concerns regarding carrying cell phones around Medellin.

I have two cell phones. One is my USA cell phone, an "I" phone, with Verizon service in the USA. It's my lifeline with my kids, business, and other matters in the USA. If I lose it or it gets stolen, there is no way I can get my number replaced in Colombia. That is what Verizon has told me. Hence it doesn't leave my apartment unless I am going somewhere very specific, etc. And I am grateful that when I got held up by gunpoint with my Chica about a month ago that they didn't go thru my pockets. All of my WhatsApp contacts are on this phone, everything. To further illustrate, when I use my ATM / Credit cards here I sometimes get text messages to confirm transactions. And all kinds of other types of text messages. So without my cell phone I can get blocked out of pulling money out of ATM's and then have to make a whole bunch of time consuming phone calls.

.....

I am sure there are other ways around this for the technical savy guy's on this board which I am not.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2417041]This is were I fall down being a old school, technically challenged guy, versus you younger bucks. I can do WhatsApp and am clueless how to back shit up.
[/QUOTE]If it is only the contacts you are concerned about, it is stored in the phone contact list / address book, nothing to do with WhatsApp backup. If the phone is a smart phone, the contacts likely is stored in the cloud already.

Not sure where to post this but I figured I'd start here.

I'm looking to change up my areas from Africa to the Latin hemisphere and I'm debating where's the best place to check out. In my part of town, DR (Sosua) is the main spot for a quick 4-5 day romp, however, I've heard that scene is slowly dying down.

My question is this which is the best country if I'm looking for latin women but latin women with big / thick assess / booty preferably all natural. Not a fan of silicon at all.

Per the booty size, look up this lady 'Cherokee the'Ass' for reference. I've had good luck finding her types across Africa, I'm wondering if I can find ladies similar to her in a Latin American country. Any help would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2417060]It's an eSIM in the iphone, similar but not quite the same thing. I should have mentioned that people who travel internationally on a regular basis are best served by networked unlocked phones. Network unlocked means the phone will accept any SIM card. The iphone and other phones with eSIMs that also support a physical SIM will work the way I described. You can activate spare SIM cards from the home country from outside the country.[/QUOTE]IPhone accepts an esim and a sim card. There is another version of iPhone not sold is US has two sim cards tray.

[QUOTE=Zakmo;2417275]My question is this which is the best country if I'm looking for latin women but latin women with big / thick assess / booty preferably all natural. Not a fan of silicon at all.

Per the booty size, look up this lady 'Cherokee the'Ass' for reference.[/QUOTE]So why would you give a chick with a fake ass as reference if you are not a fan of that? Go to Brazil.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2417041]This is were I fall down being a old school, technically challenged guy, versus you younger bucks. I can do WhatsApp and am clueless how to back shit up.

Regardless, how is AT&T's service worldwide. Do they offer what Verizon does. As an example, while travelling in Monteverde and Albania (not places to monger) last fall, I switched over to the $ 10 a International day plan and my phone functioned like I was at home in the US.[/QUOTE]AT&T offer the same international plan, for 9. 99 a day you get the "international day pass". You can use your phone and your data plan around the world just as if you are in the USA The coverage in Medellin is great. However, with AT&T, this service is not available in some regions of the world, for example, it is not available in Cuba and the Philippines.

If you have an iPhone, iCloud should have automatically backed up all your data.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2417217]Generally speaking when anyone mentions El Centro they are talking about the street scene unless they specifically mentioning the bars or strip clubs. The street scene is mostly done at 8 pm. The chance of you finding an acceptable partner at 1 am is maybe 5% and a hottie at that time is about. 01%. Everyone knows you can do it. But we simpletons are not you. JjBee62 specifically pointed out except strip clubs and should have said bars too. Instead of being destructive try being constructive.

Example:

In El Centro in 80% of the time (always exceptions 20%.

Bars Open X Close Z.

Strip Clubs Open X Close Z.

Street Scene Opens 8 am Closes 8 pm.

Notice I only list the street scene because that is all I know. I do not know when the bars or strip clubs open or close. You could have provided that but chose to try to bash another member with your time instead.[/QUOTE]If you don't speak Spanish or don't like grimy places, I'm in centro right now having a blast! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Trader911;2417200]Surfer500 , can you please tell more about the story of being held by gunpoint. I am going there first time so curious to know.[/QUOTE]Search threw my previous posts of over a month ago and you will find it.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2417271]If it is only the contacts you are concerned about, it is stored in the phone contact list / address book, nothing to do with WhatsApp backup. If the phone is a smart phone, the contacts likely is stored in the cloud already.[/QUOTE]Thanks Nounce, I think my "I" phone is set up to store shit in the Clouds, at least I think that was what I was told when I bought my "I" phone.

I am a fossil and come from an era when slide rules were just being replaced with calculators.

But I don't feel old pounding Chicas everyday.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2417255]Google Fi which I have recommended on this forum many times for its low cost international data provides an easy solution. You can check your voicemails and text messages from any internet connection. I dropped my phone on the first day (in the immigration hall) of my last month long MDE trip. While nothing cracked, the screen died. I quickly accessed all my text messages, voice mails and even made and received phone calls from my tablet and backup phone using Google Hangouts. Transferring my whatsapp and other critical apps over took 10 minutes. No time consuming calls. If you phone is stolen, you can wipe the phone with the click of a button. Google also provides a 2nd sim card which I already had in a cheap backup cell phone ($60 Moto G6). I was surprised how well that cheap phone met my needs. Like you I'm concerned about loosing my phone (for all the same reasons) so I travel with a cheap backup. I don't bother with a local Colombian number any more, it is just too convenient to have one number and one main phone. BTW Google replaced my phone under warranty after I returned to the US, it had no cracks or dents on it. There were some limitations with Iphones, which I think could be one of the few negatives with Google if you are an Iphone aficionado. They have information about that on their web site.[/QUOTE]Good information for you technically savvy guys, probably which is 99.9 % of the posters here, but to complicated for me.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2417041]Regardless, how is AT&T's service worldwide. Do they offer what Verizon does. As an example, while travelling in Monteverde and Albania (not places to monger) last fall, I switched over to the $ 10 a International day plan and my phone functioned like I was at home in the US.[/QUOTE]I have AT&T on my work phone, but never took it abroad. I'm using TMobile on my personal phone for more than 10 years and had no problems to have service worldwide. TMobile gives you free unlimited data (2 G) almost everywhere and 0. 25/ min for calls. I had no issues with internet connection in 10 European countries, Israel. China, Thailand, Russia, DR, Bahamas, Colombia. It even worked at ski slopes in Alps. It's not the fastest but enough to make WatsApp / Viber / Skype calls, Waze, Google Voice, Google Maps, email even Youtube. And you can make free WIFI calls when you connected to WIFI in hotel / Airbb / restaurant as you're in US. And it's much cheaper than Verizon.

I wonder if there is a board member who fucked more girls in a week than you. You are probably in top 3.

For me personally, if I don't come it doesn't count. If I am to report my numbers, it will be the number of cums. I will surely loose in the number of different chicas.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2416399]Woke up, ate too much breakfast food. Like 4 bunuelos and 2 palitos de queso, full af. Food is so cheap here, you forget the quantity. Metro to Veracruz. Man it is hot af today. A teen girl was like wobbling on the metro and her eyes were like rolling back, low blood sugar, like 6 people helped her lie down on the seat and gave her sugar and jelly. Cool to see. Did rounds at Veracruz and directly behind the church was this solid 8, I mean even the pickiest of mongers would think she was sexy. She knows it too, quoted me 40 k + 16 room. I said no, I only have 50 k. She said fine. Went upstairs, she has solid fake see cups and a fat ass. Literally no belly fat. Sexy face, paisa. 21 yo. Yessica. Funny her name is Yessica, she had a Jessica rabbit body. Missionary, she rode me, CBJ, doggy. Didn't finish. She showered before on her own accord too.

Thanks to knowledge's recommendation, went to zandlay around 1045 to try again. Only one guy in lobby, he had a girl he was waiting for, lineup was good, all fuckable. All 7-8's. 9 girls. As usual, took the girl who wasnt hottest but the best attitude. Aranca, 24 year old Vennie morena. 5 ft 6, be cups, no belly fat, and I mean fat ass. All natural. Everyday the asses get better. 45 k 30 min. As I was going to the room, 3 local guys walked in. Wew, beat the "rush". The upstairs looks like club amigas sexy, like a jungle den. She showered, CBJ, kisses all over body, cowgirl, doggy, finished in missionary. She was super wet, no lube needed. Great service, would come here again when it's empty in the morning. So far the only casa with shitty lineup and facility is paris. Turcos best room so far, looks like a spa. Unless you need to fuck instagram models everytime, you should have no problem with the selection at casas if you're cool with fucking 20-24 why. O paisas and vennies with killer bodies and cute faces..[/QUOTE]

If you want my referral code giving you 10000 pesos, PM me. (new users only!

Disclaimer: I get a kickback from Didi.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2415773] The replacements are Didi, Beat, and Indriver. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zakmo;2417275]Not sure where to post this but I figured I'd start here.

I'm looking to change up my areas from Africa to the Latin hemisphere and I'm debating where's the best place to check out. In my part of town, DR (Sosua) is the main spot for a quick 4-5 day romp, however, I've heard that scene is slowly dying down.

My question is this which is the best country if I'm looking for latin women but latin women with big / thick assess / booty preferably all natural. Not a fan of silicon at all.

Per the booty size, look up this lady 'Cherokee the'Ass' for reference. I've had good luck finding her types across Africa, I'm wondering if I can find ladies similar to her in a Latin American country. Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]I know where you can find dozens of Latin women available everyday from mid-day until early evening with big, I mean really fucking disgusting big asses, and ugly to boot for no more than $ 10 USD per romp. Just get your ass down to Medellin, the Intersection of Carrea 52/ Calle 52 in El Centro at Botero Plaza. The one's your looking for hail from Venezuela and you can get them here without travelling to Venezuela.

I can not even imagine going with some of them because they are so big. I guess you just get on top of them or maybe from behind and just hold on for the ride. That is of course if you can even penetrate them thru all the fat.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2417323]AT&T offer the same international plan, for 9. 99 a day you get the "international day pass". You can use your phone and your data plan around the world just as if you are in the USA The coverage in Medellin is great. However, with AT&T, this service is not available in some regions of the world, for example, it is not available in Cuba and the Philippines.

If you have an iPhone, iCloud should have automatically backed up all your data.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I guess I will just stick with Verizon as they seem to have the best coverage worldwide albeit expensive.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2417338]If you don't speak Spanish or don't like grimy places, I'm in centro right now having a blast! Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]Cool PN your back in la-la land! How long are you here for? We need to meet up and exchange greetings, hell no lets chase some pussy!

I am taking a few days off as I have had my fill and completed my allotment of chicas (too many to count) in the past almost 3 weeks but should be back in action by the end of the week.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Zakmo;2417275]Not sure where to post this but I figured I'd start here.

I'm looking to change up my areas from Africa to the Latin hemisphere and I'm debating where's the best place to check out. In my part of town, DR (Sosua) is the main spot for a quick 4-5 day romp, however, I've heard that scene is slowly dying down.

My question is this which is the best country if I'm looking for latin women but latin women with big / thick assess / booty preferably all natural. Not a fan of silicon at all.

Per the booty size, look up this lady 'Cherokee the'Ass' for reference. I've had good luck finding her types across Africa, I'm wondering if I can find ladies similar to her in a Latin American country. Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Brazil, Venezuela and Colombia have the best asses in the world brother. If you like thick thighs, juicy round booties and a thin waist then nowhere beats Colombian, Brazilian and Venezuelan women. African women are only thicker on average because they're generally fat tbh.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2417278]So why would you give a chick with a fake ass as reference if you are not a fan of that? Go to Brazil.[/QUOTE]The lady I referenced is all natural. I've met her personally in the US.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/B7HfSANFv8O/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/B6vxfdRlsz0/[/URL]

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I'm looking between Colombia and DR from a logistics and costs stand point. From where I'm located, a ticket to Brazil is about 1. 5-2 x the cost of a ticket to Colombia or DR. My next trip I plan for it to be 4-5 days. Brazil would need at least 7-8 days to justify the flight cost hence me looking between Colombia, Brazil or even Panama. Brazil definitely has the type of women I like so I don't think there's any issue there. It's more so between Colombia and DR.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2417051]Are you saying that if a waitress elects to hook up with a customer outside of work on their own time they will be fired? Doesn't make sense to me in that you would think that an employee can do whatever they want on their own time, outside of work.[/QUOTE]That is exactly what I am saying. I know that is the policy at Hooters, and probably at the other gringo oriented restaurants like Patrick's and Medellin Beer Factory.

[QUOTE=Zakmo;2417275]I'm looking to change up my areas from Africa to the Latin hemisphere and I'm debating where's the best place to check out. In my part of town, DR (Sosua) is the main spot for a quick 4-5 day romp, however, I've heard that scene is slowly dying down.[/QUOTE]I've been following the Sosua news and things are too much in flux for my liking. The main strip has been shut down by the powers that be and the action has moved way up to the end of the road away from the beach. There are rumors of the main strip reopening but nothing has really panned out yet.

The big allure of being able to easily enjoy beach, food, weather, and entertainment in a small area is gone.

I'd wait until a couple of weeks after the February elections and see how things shake out before making any plans for Sosua. If Willy becomes mayor, the main strip will probably revert to the old days. If the current mayor stays in power, you can expect more movement towards the outskirts.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2417451]That is exactly what I am saying. I know that is the policy at Hooters, and probably at the other gringo oriented restaurants like Patrick's and Medellin Beer Factory.[/QUOTE]Is that even legal? What gives restaurant owner the right to dictate who their employee date outside of work?

[QUOTE=LurkerNoMas;2417025]Greetings Fellow Mongers,

My first report to this site. Hope you enjoy and I am open to comments and questions that you may have.

I arrived at Medellin Airport late at night on Saturday. I went to the first ATM that I found near the baggage claim at the airport to have some Colombian pesos on me for the trip. As I was walking through the airport I was constantly asked if I needed a taxi by guys just standing around in the airport. I would ask each of them how much (cunto cuesta). All of them were saying 80,000 COP (ochenta mil). So, I kept walking until I got to the taxi stand outside where there was a group of taxi drivers. I asked if any of them spoke English and nobody did. So, I asked again, how much to my hotel, and again I was quoted 80,000 COP. So, I agreed to the price, and off we went. I felt comfortable that, even if I was getting the gringo price, I was getting the generally accepted "gringo" price. You guys should also take into consideration that it is a long drive from the airport to the city. On top of that, there is a toll of 18,000 COP for taking the tunnel through the mountain to the city. This route cuts down the driving time from about an hour to less than half an hour. When we arrived at my hotel I gave the taxi drive the agreed price without hassle.

I was staying at the Hotel Ibis was I enjoyed very much and had no issues. As I entered the building I noticed a very attentive security guard sitting at the desk just inside the entrance. The front desk did not speak English but I did not make it complicated for the registration process. I handed them my phone with the reservation confirmation open on it, my passport and my credit card I made the reservation with. I has handed back the phone and credit card. After entering my data from my passport I was handed that back as well as a form to sign (firma or firmar). I was off to my room to grab a quick shower so I could head off to my first club of choice for this Saturday night.

I forgot to mention, the taxi that I took to my hotel, he gave me his Whatsapp number to call if I needed a ride. So, after my shower I gave him a text to see if he was available and he was. He actually was downstairs waiting for me before I could get down the elevator. So, I asked him to take me to an ATM, so I could get more money. Which he did, a place that was empty, well lit, in a safe neighborhood, where I did not feel worried about grabbing a stack of cash. I did like the location of my hotel because it was rather close to my first destination. My first club that I went to was La Isla. The Girls.

So, I am going to try to give you guys as much information as I can from what I can remember of the club. I walked into the entrance of the club where I was greeted by a security guard who motioned for me to be checked. I stood sideways and put my arms up for a cursory search for weapons. They don't care about cell phones. I was told there was a 10,000 COP cover, which I paid and was on my way inside. As of yet, I still have not met a single English speaking person. All of my communication so far has been the result of my retained high school Spanish or figuring it out other ways. I walked inside to see a very open floor plan with a dance stage running along the center. When I was asked where I wanted to sit I set my eyes on the comfortable looking couches next to the stage. I was seated there and was immediately asked what kind of beer I wanted. I explained in my broken Spanish that I didn't like beer but would like a coke. To which the waiter asked if I would pay beer price for the coke. At that point I presumed that having a beer was compulsory or obligated either by being in the establishment or by where I was sitting. So, I agreed to the coke at beer price, which I am having trouble remembering the exact price. Since I can't remember the price I am not going to lie about it. So, I sat comfortably in my couch and enjoyed the view from around me. I saw a beautiful girl dancing on the stage, not really grinding or anything too strip club like. Just kinda slow dancing swaying. As I looked around the club I saw beautiful women everywhere. All of them pretty, although they were not all my type. As I sat in my couch, watching the dancing and admiring the beauty of the girls around me I realized I was in my element. This is exactly what I came to Colombia to experience. Just sitting there in comfort, not being hounded, and enjoying the view (I call it eye candy).

Shortly after I was seated, maybe 10 minutes or so, I was asked to move from the couch at the side of the stage to a couch at the end of the stage. I don't really know the reason for it, but I really don't care. I assume they were making a space for a couple of guys that sat down there. I don't know how much sense that made because the place they moved me to seemed to be as much room. But it was no sweat off of my back. So, I started people watching. Seeing how things were going on in the club. One of the first things you will notice is that the guys do, and can, be handsy with the girls. This doesn't seem to bother the girls at all. From squeezing there ass or tits, to grinding them during a dance. It was everywhere, all the time. The whole time I was taking this in I had some many questions. Like, what is the rundown. How much does it cost for this and that. With nobody their who spoke English I really had no one to ask my questions. But since I was in my element, I enjoyed the view and not being hounded. Eventually another group of guys came to the couch on my left and were funny guys to watch. They way the acted, danced, interacted with the girls, it was hilarious. Later in the night, one of them sat down at my couch and introduced himself to me. I am sure he saw how entertained I was be their behavior.

The first time any girl asked me for anything was shortly after I arrived at the club. It was the girl that just finished dancing on the stage. I could tell she wanted something but was certain what. She motioned to the small bills that were stuck all over her outfit and what she had in her hand. So, I figured she wanted a tip. At the time I didn't have any small bills on me in Colombian pesos. So, I noticed that one of the bills on her was a $1 bill (USA). So, I opened my wallet and grabbed a single and tipped her, to which she seemed very happy. I know I have read in this forum about "Propina". Which is Spanish for tip. The reason I capitalized "Propina" is because of it's importance, not that it was supposed to be. For some reason, the concept of the tip escaped me, maybe I was just overcome by everything I was seeing. When the girls dance on the stage you don't throw bills onto the stage, although it occasionally happened, you wait for them to come around and tip them then. Believe me, they will come around. To every single customer in the place. I call it "trick or treating", because to me, that is what it seems like. After the girls perform their stage show they will go to the back room, get dressed, and make their rounds. As they get to each customer they will ask for their "Propina". Some customers will just give them their tip or make them work for it. They do this by dangling the tip to see what else they do for it. Most of the time the girls will start twerking or giving you a lap dance. As long as you are willing to give them a tip they will keep on giving you a private show. You remember earlier, when I mentioned that I tipped the girl $1 (USA). I quickly realized that the 2,000 COP bills that they had on their bodies was a much more practical way to go. Not that they didn't deserve a $1 bill tip, but to make my money last longer. At current exchange rates, 2,000 COP is the equivalent of just under 60 cents. So, if you ever heard of anyone mentioning the 60 cent lap dance it might be because that is what it is. I kept myself stocked with the 2,000 COP bills for the girls whenever they came around I was ready. Some girls I would just had the tip to their pleasure. Other girls, that I liked a little more, I would get a little more risque about the placement of my tip. Either way, the girls were happy to get a 2,000 COP tip. The girls would definitely get bent out of shape whenever a customer didn't give a tip. I saw it on from their reactions.

As I write this report, I realize that I am kind of bouncing around a little. I apologize for that and how long the report is. But I am just trying to give you the information as I remember it. There were two things that surprised me by the environment at La Isla. First, as I gazed around at all of the girls at La Isla, and there were over 30, probably more. I thought to myself, "Oh, they have some girls that do stage shows and some that don't. " Not true at all. All of these beautiful women perform stage shows. Some more enthusiastically than others. There was this hit couple of girls that performed a stage show that was very hot and seemed choreographed. The other surprise to me is that smoking is not permitted in La Isla, however, vaping is. I was kinda expecting a smoke filled room but was pleasantly surprised to have a well ventilated area with a comfortable, no smell, environment.

I was at La Isla for several hours before a girl asked me if I wanted to do private time. Her words were more precise, "fucky fucky", if memory serves me right. I respectfully declined. As I looked around the room I noticed something different happening. It seemed a lot of girls were hooking up with guys. When I looked and my clock it was almost 3:30 am and the club closes at 4 am. The girls were trying to lock something down before closing. About a minute later a very cute girl asked me if I would like to go with her. I asked her for her price which was 300,000 COP, and I asked for how long, which was 45 minutes. I know, there are guys on this forum that say negotiate this and that. I am sorry to ruin it for you but I either say yes or no to a ladies rate. That is as far as my negotiating skills or strategy will go. As far as I am concerned the lady was well worth every bit of 300,000 COP, which is about $90 (USA). I said yes to her price and then we were on our way to the room. First we stopped by a place for me to pay the fee and then she went to get herself ready. Shortly later we were on the way to the room. I know some guys like a play by play report but I am going to stick to the basics. First, the girl was very attentive and into the session. She made me rise to the occasion when I doubted that would be possible. Eventually going into CBJ with lots of eye contact and lots of suction. I could have lost it there. Then she moved onto Cowgirl. She is very beautiful, very into the session, the service was outstanding and I extremely enjoyed what she was doing for me. As a man, I would like to sit here and tell you that I rocked he world, so to speak, for the full 45 minutes. In all actuality, I would say I lasted for 5 minutes. Yep, 5 minutes, that is about as long as I lasted. I could say it was her rhythm, how tight she was, how beautiful she was, all of the stuff that I seen through the night or all of the above. Truth is, it was everything I had hoped for and I only lasted about 5 minutes. There ain't no shame in my game folks. After I finished she was still insistent on making me happy for the rest of our time asking if I wanted anything else. Suggesting a massage, which I politely declined. I got dressed and asked her to do the same. Usually I would add a tip to the service. But since I was done with the service in half the time I figured I would just let her go on with her day. She also mentioned about just taking her shower at her house instead of at the club. After we were dressed we gave each other a hug and I was on my way. Completely satisfied with the night with no complaints.

I took a taxi back to my hotel. No issues with the taxi. I just watched the meter and paid the amount plus a tip at the end of the trip. I also wait for the taxi to quote me the number for the ride. Sometimes that number is smaller than the meter number, sometimes it is more. I don't know why that is but it has happened both ways. When the meter is running you can keep an eye on the amount you owe, when the trip is finished the taxi pushes a button and then the total appears. Sometimes this number is lower than the amount that appeared before he pushed a button. I also got really bothered by a couple taxi issues but I am going to save that for my Bogota report. When I walked into the doors I, again, noticed a very attentive security guard. Made me feel safer knowing that he was there. I went to the bar of the hotel because I was hungry. Asked if they had anything to eat and they gave me a basket of apples. I selected the one I liked and they gave it to me for free. I know these details are pointless to the forum, so I will wrap it up here real quick. I ended up staying at the bar chatting with a drunk Peruvian, and two Colombians. We communicated through my broken Spanish and the Peruvians broken English. The reason I included this info is this wasn't me. What I mean by that is that I am not a people person. I do not like to socialize. But at this time I did it and I rather enjoyed the interaction. I went to bed a little after 6 am. Which means we were chatting for a little over a couple hours.

Which brings me to day two. I am not going to bore the people of this forum with the details of my mall shopping trip. It was just weird that as I was walking around the mall that I was at I looked out and saw my destination for later that night. I don't think it is that hard for anybody to guess which destination that would be. So, I am looking out from the mall and across the street is Fase Dos. I thought, how funny is that. It was a Sunday and I have been warned on this forum about slow times. I didn't know what to expect on a Sunday evening at Fase Dos, both in quantity and in quality. I noticed, via the maps from this forum, that Fase Dos opens at 9 pm and I arrived shortly after 9 pm. Same thing here as at La Isla. A 10 k cover and a cursory search for weapons. I was also informed ahead of my entrance that the were only three girls there at that time. I agreed to enter but was glad that they told me. This is when I encountered my first complaint for this trip. Fase Dos apparently doesn't care about the comfort of its guests. Your seating choices are all either uncomfortable bar stools, or uncomfortable wooden bar stools. If you sit anywhere other than at the bar they require you to buy a bottle service. Two things that barred me from doing that. First, I don't drink. Second, even if I paid for the service for the seat, the seats weren't comfortable enough for me to want to pay for the bottle service. I want to say that they were charging something like 130 k for a bottle of Aguardiente. I don't know if that included anything other than the table. So, I sat rather uncomfortably at the bar the whole night. I saw one guy fall of off his wooden bar stool from the leaning back in it. I saw it almost happen again. The girls here are just as beautiful as the girls at La Isla. There is a lot of silicon as indicated on multiple reports but to my surprise these were very well done enhancements and not too many looking like barby doll enhancements like I saw with several La Isla girls. I personally do not like enhancements, but these girls it looked pretty good on. Some of them you couldn't tell that they were enhancements until you had the opportunity to squeeze them or see if they defied gravity.

Eventually there were plenty of girls there. There was probably more than 20 girls or so. They were all performing stage shows and coming around for their tip. Something I noticed at Fase Dos in contrast to La Isla is the nude part of their stage show. Fase Dos girls get completely naked for a lot longer than at La Isla. At La Isla, when the girl takes off all of her clothes, she is about 30 seconds to being done with the show. At Fase Dos, the girls strut around in their birthday suit for several minutes showing the crowd their goodies before ending their stage show. A lot of the girls at Fase Dos are Venezuelan as are the two girls that I hooked up with at Fase Dos. I want to say their names are Valentina and Roberta. They appear to be friends and were always hanging around with each other. I noticed them several times through the night and Valentina was making gazing eye contact. I was like putty in her staring gaze. The girls at Fase Dos weren't agressive or hounding. As far as it went was walking by in front of you and maybe sitting at the barstool next to you. I felt at ease the whole night, enjoying the stage dances and paying the "Propina". Eventually that night, Valentina and Roberta made there way over to the bar stools next to me. We started dialogue, mostly translating through the phone. Long story short, I asked Valentina for a Lesbian Show with her friend. They don't do lesbian shows but said that both of them together. The rate for the hour was 210,000 each for both of them. No additional cost for both of them together. I agreed to the price went and paid the fee. The girls went to get ready as I went to hit the bathroom. When I got done I had two beautiful girls waiting for me. Both of the girls were very attentive to me and acted into me. As we undressed in the room I dropped my pants on the floor. (I am laughing right now thinking of Valentina's response) As soon as I did, Valentina quickly picked them up, folded them and placed them up for me. I was thinking of how sweet that was. I eventually tossed something else on the floor, and, as before, Valentina was quick to pick it up for me and put it up. It was so sweet. The girls were dancing and swaying and acted very into me. I didn't have any problem standing at attention and the girls kept it that way the whole time of our session. The girls mainly directed the session of events. It started out with sitting me at the end of the bed and taking turns giving me a lap dance to moving me all the way on the bed completely disrobing me and the performing CBJ. Valentina was the first to perform CBJ. I have to tell you gentlemen, at this point the details of everything start to get a little foggy. I think I was going into sensory overload. As Valentina was performing CBJ, Roberta occupied her time kissing on my body and nipples and rubbing her hands on me. She would also kiss me on my neck and make breathing sounds into my ear. I felt like both of them were actively interested in my pleasure and were genuinely concerned with my happiness. After a while the roles were reversed. The girls were still taking charge of the session and I had not complaints about their performance. Each gave excellent CBJ and I had to try my best to keep from popping during sensory overload. Both girls took turns riding me in cowgirl position and while one was riding me I would be rubbing on the other one. Either playing with their pussy or rubbing their tits and going back and forth from the tits of the girl riding me. Both of the girls were tight and wanted to maintain a fast rhythm, which I had them slow down. Eventually I asked for doggystyle, which is when I was still being ridden by Roberta. So, I switched to doggystyle with Roberta. Again, very pleasurable and Valentina was searching for was to participate and pleasure me while I was going at Roberta. After Roberta, I switched back to Valentina, this time in missionary position. I think that position was her choice. After going at Valentina in missionary for a while a few things were going through my head. First, how much time is left. I actually had no idea had much time had transpired to that point. Second, it is starting to get hot in the room. Thirdly, I was starting to get physically exhausted. So, I knew it was time to wrap things up. I increased the velocity (LOL) with which I was having sex with Valentina and eventually got to the big O. I didn't actually intend to have two girls this night, it just happened that way. Again, another night that I was completely satisfied and no regrets for the events for the day.

I went back to the hotel that night wondering what my plans would be for the rest of the week. My hotel stay at the Hotel Ibis ended the next day. My hotel search for rooms showed an increase room rate during the week. So, I compared room rates in Medellin against room rates in Bogota. I found a good rate for a nice hotel in Bogota so I decided to go with it. My complete trip in Medellin was absolutely amazing with no complaints or regrets. I just can't wait to be able to do it again.

A special shout out and thanks to Mr. E and all forum members for their contributions to this site. Who's valuable research and reports were much appreciated by me and this trip would not have been possible with out it. Again, thanks!

Gentleman, please go easy on me. I am asking you to ask me any questions you may have. Comments are welcome as well. Remember, different strokes for different folks and to each their own. I will also be posting a report about my time in Bogota which did not go off as well as it did in Medellin.

LurkerNoMas.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the long post, I enjoyed it and took notes, will be in Medellin in March.

BTW I am a fluent spanish speaker since its my first language so I wonder what else I can achieve.

[QUOTE=LurkerNoMas;2417025]Greetings Fellow Mongers,

My first report to this site. Hope you enjoy and I am open to comments and questions that you may have.

I arrived at Medellin Airport late at night on Saturday. ...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detailed report. I appreciate the information about La Isla. Can you get the small bills for the tips at the clubs? I'll offer some information about the taxis. The fare from the airport is a fixed rate set by the government, no gringo pricing. You were smart in bypassing the hawkers and going to a taxi outside. In the city, the minimum fare is 5,500. That may be the reason the fare was more than the meter. If the meter is more than 5,500, you should be charged what the meter reads.

For the guys who go to prepagos houses do you feel safe? How to proof yourself over there?? I noticed that the prepagos almost double the price when you asked them to come over your hotel or airbnb.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2417549] Can you get the small bills for the tips at the clubs?[/QUOTE]You can. You can do it after you enter the club or have the waiter change it, They have a bill counting machine too.

He got lucky with taxi. The club has cars that they want you to use when you leave. Usually the girls can take taxi thru another exit but not the customers.

[QUOTE=MexiMonger;2417504]Thank you for the long post, I enjoyed it and took notes, will be in Medellin in March.

BTW I am a fluent spanish speaker since its my first language so I wonder what else I can achieve.[/QUOTE]If you're young the sky's the limit. You can easily pick up non-pros.

[QUOTE=LurkerNoMas;2417025]Greetings Fellow Mongers,

My first report to this site. Hope you enjoy and I am open to comments and questions that you may have.

LurkerNoMas.[/QUOTE]Nicely done. I'll fill in a few things.

The guys inside the airport aren't taxi drivers. They are freelancers. I made the mistake of taking one my first time in Bogota. Fortunately, the security at my hotel heard how much he tried to charge me and got the price reduced to something more reasonable, but still much too high.

If you exit the terminal at the left end, there's a big sign on the wall (Medellin) with the taxi fees.

There's a minimum taxi charge, currently 5500 pesos. I believe the meter begins at 3300 or 3400. There's no need to tip the taxis. Depending on fee, I'll maybe toss in an extra 200 pesos.

The standard price at La Isla is 300 k. No need to haggle, unless you're trying to get the girl to come to your room after work. Then you might get her cheaper. I believe 210 k is the current standard price at Fase 2. The clubs will happily break a large bill so you'll have tip money.

Stage side seats are usually reserved for bottle service. If you're not buying a bottle expect to be moved to a less desirable seat. I expect La Isla charges the same price for Coke and the cheaper beers.

Glad that you had a good time.

FB chicas, meeting a casa girl outside of casa, non-pro chic all of them do DFK and I didn't even ask or wanted. But how do you say no when a 20 year old Wants to DFK you?! Damn. I personally don't really like doing that with random chicas. You can catch anything from cold to virus like that. P4P girls back home surely won't initiate kissing. I guess this is a South American thing. Sexuality here is not what it is in many parts of the world. I am glad I am exploring it though. Thanks seniors, especially Surfer500, JjBee62, Mojo Bandit, Mr. E, the for all the guidance.

Arrived here 5 days ago from Lima. A little warmer here than in Lima, but both city's it feels great compared to the Northern USA.

I'm staying at ground zero in Centro. I have only seen about 4 or 5 girls in Centro streets that I would take. I have been hitting the Casa's,and of them all I prefer New Life. Before I get any further in this TR let me say I'm surprised on all the comments lately concerning if a man has an orgasimo or not during his time with a chica. Myself if a guy doesn't give leche, I couldn't care less. Also a lot of talk about eating ass, and bloody DATY. Methinks that should be a matter where the man should be paid for that kind of action LOL. Casa prices seem to* be mostly 55 K for 30 minutes. I hit New Life this morning, and there were about 25 girls presented to me. Most were in the 7 to 8 range. I picked one who I did not think she was going to be great, but she had that exotic look I liked. In the room when she disrobed her body was smokin hot. I would say a 10 body with a face of an 8. Funny thing anything I asked her to do she said no, but in such a nice way that it did not bother me. I asked for beso's and BBBJ which she did not want. This girl was a killer in reverse cow girl. What a view while she pounded away.

On a sad note for me while I was walking under the Metro while looking for a spice grinder I fell on the uneven pavement, and sprained my ankle. My case with my 4 debit cards fell out of my pocket. As I was lying no* the ground, and a couple of guys were helping me up then one of them handed me my case which I did not know I lost. I offered him a tip as a reward, but he said no* thanks. Man was I lucky not to lose those cards here. I still have 12 days here so I was very lucky. Now as far as my ankle I can only walk a little as it is very sore. This makes me take taxi's to the casa's. I don't* care about the cost of the taxi. It is the time to go a few blocks in Centro. I always walk day or night in Centro, but now I can't.

As far as how safe Centro is? I feel OK walking around day or night. Of course no dark alleys for me, and I don't flash anything.

I also hear guys saying they don't like New Life as it has to many Gringos. I was there waiting to make the important choice on which Chica to take. I told a guy sitting there that I always forget there names. He told me they also have numbers which I never noticed before. That was a value to having a Gringo there for me.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2417199]
Also, trust me, I've been hanging in SP for over 15 years, it can be just as seedy as Medellin, and the younger (18-22) girls are available.
You just have to know where to explore and find them.
And there is way less other gringo competition for them.[/QUOTE]Makes sense, I wish I knew. I'll PM you.

I know, I know, it happens everywhere, but I want to blame SJobs for the severity of the problem here. I think his addiction to 18-21 year old girls has caused irrational price inflation in that age group on FB and Tinder. Hence, more girls are trying to get into that category.

Everyone, just kidding, nothing against SJobs. I am just surprised that 19 year old Girl says she is 18, and 22, she is 20 etc. In my experience, P4P girls in Europe / Asia usually stopped aging at 21/22.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2417620]If you're young the sky's the limit. You can easily pick up non-pros.[/QUOTE]40 yo but fat, so my chances are not so good. My best resource would be Moneeeey.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2417660]I know, I know, it happens everywhere, but I want to blame SJobs for the severity of the problem here. I think his addiction to 18-21 year old girls has caused irrational price inflation in that age group on FB and Tinder. Hence, more girls are trying to get into that category.

Everyone, just kidding, nothing against SJobs. I am just surprised that 19 year old Girl says she is 18, and 22, she is 20 etc. In my experience, P4P girls in Europe / Asia usually stopped aging at 21/22.[/QUOTE]Man,

Older girls trying to pretend to be younger is the least thing we should worry. What concerns me the most is the other way around. I never explicitly state to the girls I talk to about my preference in age. I simply stop talking to them when I find out they are over 21. If I want a 22-30 year old girl, I can just go back to the dating game. As for price inflation, you flatter me, I wish I can have that much influence.

[QUOTE=LurkerNoMas;2417025]Greetings Fellow Mongers,

My first report to this site. Hope you enjoy and I am open to comments and questions that you may have.



Gentleman, please go easy on me. I am asking you to ask me any questions you may have. Comments are welcome as well. Remember, different strokes for different folks and to each their own. I will also be posting a report about my time in Bogota which did not go off as well as it did in Medellin.

LurkerNoMas.[/QUOTE]Thank you for taking the time to write a detailed report. I do not think that any detail is wasted space, for example I for sure know that if I go to Fase Dos, I will go at a time when there are the most chicas so I have a selection to choose from so I do not have to sit around in the uncomfortable chairs or stools.

Your welcome MexiMonger. I am glad you enjoyed it.

[QUOTE=MexiMonger;2417504]Thank you for the long post, I enjoyed it and took notes, will be in Medellin in March.

BTW I am a fluent spanish speaker since its my first language so I wonder what else I can achieve.[/QUOTE]

Your welcome Fun Luvr. To answer your question. Yes, you can get smalls bills at the clubs. The Medellin clubs I visited had no problems giving me 2 mil bills for my 50 mil bills. I did have a problem at a club in Santa Fe, Bogota though. Stay tuned for that report later. Just count your bills so you know they made correct change.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2417549]Thanks for the detailed report. I appreciate the information about La Isla. Can you get the small bills for the tips at the clubs? I'll offer some information about the taxis. The fare from the airport is a fixed rate set by the government, no gringo pricing. You were smart in bypassing the hawkers and going to a taxi outside. In the city, the minimum fare is 5,500. That may be the reason the fare was more than the meter. If the meter is more than 5,500, you should be charged what the meter reads.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2417620]If you're young the sky's the limit. You can easily pick up non-pros.[/QUOTE]If your young, you shouldn't be on this Site. This site is for those of us in the "Pay Pool".

I saw them. I didn't know they were working. I thought they were just making company to the working ones.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2416709]I don't what other members on this board who are in town this week have noticed, but on Thursday afternoon in El Centro I counted four pregnant Chicas working, and one of them looked like she was ready to pop. I've done a few of them, and it's always a little weird, especially when they are further along as the positions can be limiting. At least in doggie you may not have to put a pillow under them.[/QUOTE]

I'm standing here at the airport getting ready to leave feeling sad and nostalgic. The people at Medellin was so nice to me it was ridiculous. I'm really thinking about moving here and living off my army retirement and VA. Like the prepaid say I'm a prince and prince's don't work. I arrived to Medellin on Saturday morning after trying to destroy my penis in Panama the night prior at bocateria, it was awesome. I arrived and my FB girl pulled up in a taxi to pick me up. I tell you what her name was Daniel Guzman on her profile. She was better than the photos. These girls got the fake love down pack, as long it's in the 2 hours that you rented them for LOL. She got out the car and I was floored. She was way more prettier than the photos. She was fine in the photos but a knockout in real life, lean with a natural fat ads and lips. She got out the car and swallowed my face. The taxi drivers were just staring LOL. We said welcome to Colombia and took me to motel Ibiza. We played in the jacuzzi, gave me BBJ in the tub and banged me in the tub, we ate drinker and she drove me to my hotel. All this for the modest amount of 200 k plus taxi. I spent like 4 hours with her. Then that night trouble came, I had a fb girl I been talking to about a month, chick showed up looking tiny and eating candy, skinny and looked like she was 12. And worse she was high as hell, being loud, I ask for cedula, don't have one, how old, 18. BS. I had to pay her to leave and missed time for the parque Lleras. Sunday am had fb girl come, 18 yo slim chick, came over and had a true GFE. I smashed like she was my long lost girlfriend, full kisses, BBJ, and let me bust in her face. It was actually romantic despite the bust in face. That night Was twin sister number 1, Valentina Gomez, fake love professional, she just me a kissy face just now LOL. I had her meet me at the park Lleras at a bar with my gringo army buddies I met at the Irish sports bar. I love that place. I was at a bar and she walked in, the whole bar just dropped their jaws, mind this was Sunday so no chicas in the parque so all the poor gringos who thought Sunday was going to be Saturday we're so disappointed, she came in lip licked me and hung all over me. She was doing little dances in the middle of the dance floor, played beer pong, and was damn a ball of playful fun. Took her to apartment, the old men across from me who saw chick number 4 were just staring. She went and changed into a outfit and danced and stripped for me then gave me BBJ, she was cute. Best 200 k of my life. Next day Monday I went to el centro, found some fake titty girl from Cali was out there, people stared but took the plunge, 40 k was a crime LOL. I saw twin number 2 suleima Cordoba, had her meet me at the bar in the charlee. She was alot sexier then her sister, and the booty was softer and bigger, no dance but BBJ and and smashed from the back, treated me like her best friend and hung all over me. Met my long gamer there for a few hours she was stunning, she left the early and made me sad to see her go, she was a knockout but wasn't as romantic as I would hope, it was a great trip, as MacArthur said, I will be back.

[QUOTE=Kelso1;2417657]Arrived here 5 days ago from Lima. A little warmer here than in Lima, but both city's it feels great compared to the Northern USA.

I'm staying at ground zero in Centro. I have only seen about 4 or 5 girls in Centro streets that I would take. I have been hitting the Casa's,and of them all I prefer New Life. Before I get any further in this TR let me say I'm surprised on all the comments lately concerning if a man has an orgasimo or not during his time with a chica. Myself if a guy doesn't give leche, I couldn't care less. Also a lot of talk about eating ass, and bloody DATY. Methinks that should be a matter where the man should be paid for that kind of action LOL. Casa prices seem to* be mostly 55 K for 30 minutes. I hit New Life this morning, and there were about 25 girls presented to me. Most were in the 7 to 8 range. I picked one who I did not think she was going to be great, but she had that exotic look I liked. In the room when she disrobed her body was smokin hot. I would say a 10 body with a face of an 8. Funny thing anything I asked her to do she said no, but in such a nice way that it did not bother me. I asked for beso's and BBBJ which she did not want. This girl was a killer in reverse cow girl. What a view while she pounded away.[/QUOTE]I went at 130 am to ATM in Santa Fe to get a chick out my apartment, next morning I can't find my card, I run to the ATM, my card was under the door of the bank. On a Sunday, I luckily found a tree branch and dragged it from under the door. I was damn lucky no one stole it. I believe I left it and a good person slid it under the bank door. Lucky me!

[QUOTE=Junior11;2417660]I know, I know, it happens everywhere, but I want to blame SJobs for the severity of the problem here. I think his addiction to 18-21 year old girls has caused irrational price inflation in that age group on FB and Tinder. Hence, more girls are trying to get into that category.

Everyone, just kidding, nothing against SJobs. I am just surprised that 19 year old Girl says she is 18, and 22, she is 20 etc. In my experience, P4P girls in Europe / Asia usually stopped aging at 21/22.[/QUOTE]And I have even seen some chicas wear braces so they look younger, which it does give the youthful appearance, even though they do not need braces, just a fashion statement.

The Tall Man.

This is the way to go. The only question is, how many sim-cards and cheap spare iPhones to bring. I thought about it only after I arrived. So, hopefully, none of us will need to go through this procedure, and it just stays what it is. A backup plan.

On a different note, walking around with a old iPhone and cheap headphones while your latest greatest gadgets are locked up in the room feels kind of funny. I hate cheap headphones. Another sacrifice we men do for women.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2416910]If you have att as your service provider, then just bring an extra iPhone and an extra att SIM card. Make sure you have a way to check your email (needed for two factor authentication) and make a phone call to att without your phone. I typically have an iPad and a MacBook hidden somewhere, I use Skype to call att. Att can activate your SIM card on your backup iPhone, iCloud will restore all your contents and settings. You will be up and running with your US phone in matter of minutes, like you never lost it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Junior11;2417811]This is the way to go. The only question is, how many sim-cards and cheap spare iPhones to bring. I thought about it only after I arrived. So, hopefully, none of us will need to go through this procedure, and it just stays what it is. A backup plan.

On a different note, walking around with a old iPhone and cheap headphones while your latest greatest gadgets are locked up in the room feels kind of funny. I hate cheap headphones. Another sacrifice we men do for women.[/QUOTE]Depending on the length of my stay, I normally bring two spare phones and sims. One is reasonably new, an IPhone 8, and one is really old, an iPhone 6. I use my primary iPhone 11 Pro Max first, it is insured in every way I can think of, if I lose it, I will activate my back phones. I lost my phone once during my last trip to Medellin, it took me all but 15 minutes to activate my spare iPhone. An iPhone 8 in Medellin is still a respectable phone.

I'm about to go to Medellin next week and have been trying the Facebook game for the last few weeks. I posted once before asking about specific girls. Anyway, I've had a range of experiences interacting with girls and wanted to ask the forum about one of them. I've run into about three girls at this point that I've started talking to and seem like prepagos (gringo friends etc) but then when I ask about rates etc. They insist that they are not prepagos but don't get angry and want to keep talking / see me. I talked to another girl who said she wanted to see me and then got pissed when I asked about her rates and I'd think that would be the typical response from a normal girl. They have also been a lot more chatty / flirty than the average prepago. I've kept talking to a couple of them for the hell of it as much as out of real interest in seeing them. Anyway, for those of you with similar experiences I was wondering what their angle typically is? Are they semi-pros, are they looking for regular "payments" from their long-distance gringo boyfriend, are they looking for money for companionship without sex? Maybe all of the above or something else? I realize it's hard to generalize but I appreciate any insights from those of you who have had similar experiences in the past. Feel free to respond to the thread or PM me (I can share specific profiles over PM for those interested). I appreciate all the information that's been posted on here and the help I got from others via PM the first time I posted.

I use my top of the line dual SIM Android device. If it gets lost or stolen I will buy a newer one and use my spare unlocked phone I keep around for such emergencies. Yes, I keep spare SIM cards so I can activate them over the Internet as needed. I use a local SIM wherever I am traveling to get the cheapest cellular data rates at the highest available speeds.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2417811]This is the way to go. The only question is, how many sim-cards and cheap spare iPhones to bring. I thought about it only after I arrived. So, hopefully, none of us will need to go through this procedure, and it just stays what it is. A backup plan.

On a different note, walking around with a old iPhone and cheap headphones while your latest greatest gadgets are locked up in the room feels kind of funny. I hate cheap headphones. Another sacrifice we men do for women.[/QUOTE]

So I am doing an airbnb in Medellin from Friday to Tuesday in April. If I wanted a bunch of girls to come over for a bachelor party how should I go about setting that up? Should I do it in advance before getting out there or do you think visiting parque Lleras and gustos prior would be good enough?

[QUOTE=Kelso1;2417657]Arrived here 5 days ago from Lima. A little warmer here than in Lima, but both city's it feels great compared to the Northern USA.

I'm staying at ground zero in Centro. I have only seen about 4 or 5 girls in Centro streets that I would take. I have been hitting the Casa's,and of them all I prefer New Life. Before I get any further in this TR let me say I'm surprised on all the comments lately concerning if a man has an orgasimo or not during his time with a chica. Myself if a guy doesn't give leche, I couldn't care less. Also a lot of talk about eating ass, and bloody DATY. Methinks that should be a matter where the man should be paid for that kind of action LOL. Casa prices seem to* be mostly 55 K for 30 minutes. I hit New Life this morning, and there were about 25 girls presented to me. Most were in the 7 to 8 range. I picked one who I did not think she was going to be great, but she had that exotic look I liked. In the room when she disrobed her body was smokin hot. I would say a 10 body with a face of an 8. Funny thing anything I asked her to do she said no, but in such a nice way that it did not bother me. I asked for beso's and BBBJ which she did not want. This girl was a killer in reverse cow girl. What a view while she pounded away.[/QUOTE]I remember telling someone the biggest danger in El Centro is the sidewalks.

Leave your debit cards locked up in your room. Only take one with you when you plan to use it.

Most of the gringos who go to Colombia, go to Medellin, Bogota or Cartagena, because that's where there are the most reports from gringos. Then the same gringos, who went there because of all the gringo reports, complain about too many gringos.

If you're ankle is up to walking a block, when you walk out the door of New Life, turn right. Go to the corner and turn right. About two thirds down the block, stop in at Delicias Al Natural. You'll recognize it by the bakery case and the menus written on blackboards. The food is excellent and cheap and the owner, Juan, speaks excellent English. He's also an incredibly nice guy.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2417811]how many sim-cards and cheap spare iPhones to bring[/QUOTE]I'm doing it a slightly different way. I bought a great condition iPhone 7 plus for $170. I downloaded and logged into all of the apps I need specific to Colombia. Indriver, Rappi, Facebook Messenger, Whatsapp etc. , (plus a very good camera which I plan to use) but it has none of my personal emails or banking apps on it. I'll get a movistar sim when I land and for $20-30 and have enough data to use it for the 3 weeks I'm there. If it gets stolen, not a big deal. The phone is logged into my icloud account and I can wipe it remotely. My US cell will stay at my Airbnb locked in the safe. If you wanted to be extra safe and still cost conscious, you could get (2) iPhone 7's for about $100-120 a piece and have 2 solid backup travel phones.

Oh, that's why most are in braces, makes sense. I was wondering what the reason was. The first thought that crossed my mind was that parents couldn't afford braces for their kids. Naive me.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2417809]And I have even seen some chicas wear braces, which it does give the youthful appearance, even though they do not need braces, just a fashion statement.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]

I enjoy the large open bar and the many wondering low pressure girls in Cali at bar La Veinte. Is there a similar bar in MDE?

Oh yeah, I'll be in MDE Mar 31st to April 11th staying across the street from Hotel Botero next to Yakusa - (hotel Deseo?

The last time I went with 80% Venezula chicas. Best bang for your buck I've had in SO. AM. In 40 years!!

I sit outside the museum Botero and have a coffee from the cafe there. I wait and watch and watch till I see a chica I might like and signal them to come up and have a cup with me. Then off we go. Usually.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2417793]I saw them. I didn't know they were working. I thought they were just making company to the working ones.[/QUOTE]They are working, and are not there to chit chat with the other working girls.

[QUOTE=Recondite;2417842]I'm about to go to Medellin next week and have been trying the Facebook game for the last few weeks. I posted once before asking about specific girls. Anyway, I've had a range of experiences interacting with girls and wanted to ask the forum about one of them. I've run into about three girls at this point that I've started talking to and seem like prepagos (gringo friends etc) but then when I ask about rates etc. They insist that they are not prepagos but don't get angry and want to keep talking / see me. I talked to another girl who said she wanted to see me and then got pissed when I asked about her rates and I'd think that would be the typical response from a normal girl. They have also been a lot more chatty / flirty than the average prepago. I've kept talking to a couple of them for the hell of it as much as out of real interest in seeing them. Anyway, for those of you with similar experiences I was wondering what their angle typically is? Are they semi-pros, are they looking for regular "payments" from their long-distance gringo boyfriend, are they looking for money for companionship without sex? Maybe all of the above or something else? I realize it's hard to generalize but I appreciate any insights from those of you who have had similar experiences in the past. Feel free to respond to the thread or PM me (I can share specific profiles over PM for those interested). I appreciate all the information that's been posted on here and the help I got from others via PM the first time I posted.[/QUOTE]Instead of focusing on what they want, think about what you want. Are you going to Medellin to find a girlfriend you can support from the US? Are you going to find a wife? Are you going to find a girl who wants you to pay her to have dinner with you?

I'm guessing you will answer "no."

Whatever game they are playing doesn't matter unless it's the game you're playing. Keep it simple.

Tell them you like the way they look. Tell them you want to see them. Tell them when you'll arrive. That's all you need to do until you arrive. Once you're on the ground tell them you want to see them, tell them when you want to see them and ask them how much they want, "cuanto quieres?" If they tell you they aren't a prepago tell them you're looking for sex and tell them you usually pay 150 k. If they insist they aren't a prepago, tell them you're sorry and move on.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2417902]Oh, that's why most are in braces, makes sense. I was wondering what the reason was. The first thought that crossed my mind was that parents couldn't afford braces for their kids. Naive me.[/QUOTE]Not as naive as you think. Fashion braces are the in-thing on this planet right now. My girl in Medellin has real ones. She said they cost 1,500,000 but she pays 70,000/month. She said fake ones cost about 300,000 pesos.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2416709]I don't what other members on this board who are in town this week have noticed, but on Thursday afternoon in El Centro I counted four pregnant Chicas working, and one of them looked like she was ready to pop.[/QUOTE]You getting me excited Surf. I am going to try to get 2 at the same time. Are they out there on Sundays? If so, I am heading there as soon as I touchdown. I know downtown is usually a ghost town on Sundays though.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2417949]You getting me excited Surf. I am going to try to get 2 at the same time. Are they out there on Sundays? If so, I am heading there as soon as I touchdown. I know downtown is usually a ghost town on Sundays though.[/QUOTE]You better hurry, I think Junior is lurking around El Centro and is a pregnant girl aficionado, and know that he knows that they are working he may swoop them all up.

And Sunday isn't a bad day in EL Centro for SW's, a lot of part timers who you don't see during the week are out Sunday's as that is their day off from their normal jobs.

Got to meet this Little Gem on my last trip. I was very surprised! She is on the taller side. Very exotic face and fantastic attitude. Has few tattoos but she carries them well. All natural with a really good booty. When I met her she arrived on time! I wasn't ready for that, LOL. Very chill and relaxed. I extended the initial 1 HR to 4 hrs. Gave her extra tip as I had a fantastic time. 250 K HR totally worth in my book. BBBJ, every position you want, loves playing with toys. Very orgasmic. She told me she loves girl and I ended up having a freaky threeway with her later in the week. I am not a big fan of threesomes as they are usually dull and meh. But this one blew me away for sure.

I would very much recommend!

Good luck everyone.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100022027354170[/URL]

[QUOTE=Zhagolo52;2417974]Got to meet this Little Gem on my last trip. I was very surprised! She is on the taller side. Very exotic face and fantastic attitude. Has few tattoos but she carries them well. All natural with a really good booty. When I met her she arrived on time! I wasn't ready for that, LOL. Very chill and relaxed. I extended the initial 1 HR to 4 hrs. Gave her extra tip as I had a fantastic time. 250 K HR totally worth in my book. BBBJ, every position you want, loves playing with toys. Very orgasmic. She told me she loves girl and I ended up having a freaky threeway with her later in the week. I am not a big fan of threesomes as they are usually dull and meh. But this one blew me away for sure.

I would very much recommend!

Good luck everyone.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100022027354170[/URL][/QUOTE]I was with this one about 2 years ago. She is skinny! Like two dimensional. I mean crazy skinny. Nice eyes, great attitude and not a clock watcher. BUT--I fingered her and got my hand just above my bell before I go smell a nasty strong fishy odor! Yuck! I mean her pussy stunk something horrible. So, I washed my hands, took a leak, and told her I only wanted a BBBJ. Which she gave-and it was quite good. She was cool--I just wish she wasn't so dammmmmmmm skinny-and her pussy didn't stink like a fish market gone bad.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2418098]I was with this one about 2 years ago. She is skinny! Like two dimensional. I -I just wish she wasn't so dammmmmmmm skinny-and her pussy didn't stink like a fish market gone bad.[/QUOTE]Fish smell means bacterial imbalance / infection, gets cleared up by antibiotics.

Can anyone point me in the direction of a chica that can take a rough / deep facefucking?

Also, Is that a common thing in Colombia?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2417933]Instead of focusing on what they want, think about what you want. Are you going to Medellin to find a girlfriend you can support from the US? Are you going to find a wife? Are you going to find a girl who wants you to pay her to have dinner with you?

I'm guessing you will answer "no."

Whatever game they are playing doesn't matter unless it's the game you're playing. Keep it simple.

Tell them you like the way they look. Tell them you want to see them. Tell them when you'll arrive. That's all you need to do until you arrive. Once you're on the ground tell them you want to see them, tell them when you want to see them and ask them how much they want, "cuanto quieres?" If they tell you they aren't a prepago tell them you're looking for sex and tell them you usually pay 150 k. If they insist they aren't a prepago, tell them you're sorry and move on.[/QUOTE]This is what worked for me on my first trip. After toftt I was ready. I got my profile going, 300 and three weeks, and started sending out hellos to the ones I really wanted, on this trip I got 3 of the 6 and was not disappointed at all. When I contact them I can feel them out if the are prapaga. Some are easy just by looking at their profile. To be fair one got upset with my cash request and one swears she isn't even though she has crap ton of gringo friends. But that won't stop them from trying to ask for shit. I did like the poster just said I tell him what I want and I tell her how much I want to spend. Regular girl that's kind of doing this but not really into it will agree to the 150. I offer the 150 for two hours and I tell him what I want. I got BJ and came on their faces or on the chess on each girl. Sometimes the part time pros will shock you. I found a girl from another girl hoops that she's only been with like one other American before me and she treated me like a girlfriend. They will counter your offer specially the hot ones most of my counter offers were 200 mill plus taxi. They will also contact you when you tell them that you have landed your Facebook will just go crazy. I probably limit my list of 25 girls I wanted to see and 10 that I had to see and I saw six girls of had to see. They are professionals so they know what the time is when they show Up. If you are upfront in the beginning then you'll know what you're getting when they get there. Don't be afraid to tell him what you want they will take you back if they agree if you want anal they'll tell you yes or no that way you don't get disappointed when she doesn't do it. If it's over amount of money if you're willing to spend take the loss now they look like that hooters girls those big tits and big ass that's at the Hooters then I'm going to pay 300 K if they don't look like they deserve that type of money or is not a girl that you really want do you move on.

Humans are funny. Back in the day, I'm dating myself now, I had a friend who had a business selling fashion pagers, flip phones etc. Just the shell, nothing inside.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2417939]Not as naive as you think. Fashion braces are the in-thing on this planet right now. My girl in Medellin has real ones. She said they cost 1,500,000 but she pays 70,000/month. She said fake ones cost about 300,000 pesos.[/QUOTE].

Hahaha, you got it.

Seriously though, I've been three times (once in the morning, once at lunch, and once after 4:30 pm). Didn't find anyone I liked. I didn't stay long there though. One or 2 laps and I was gone.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2417954]You better hurry, I think Junior is lurking around El Centro and is a pregnant girl aficionado, and know that he knows that they are working he may swoop them all up.

And Sunday isn't a bad day in EL Centro for SW's, a lot of part timers who you don't see during the week are out Sunday's as that is their day off from their normal jobs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChicagoMan;2418208]Can anyone point me in the direction of a chica that can take a rough / deep facefucking?

Also, Is that a common thing in Colombia?[/QUOTE]What exactly is a deep face fucking. Is that where you fuck them in their mouths and do it deeply and hard?

I have zero experience with something like this. Now if it's a a matter of Chica taking it deep while she's blowing you, well that's a different matter, but fucking them as though their mouth is their pussy, I can't help you on this one, but am sure there are other members well versed in this. Besides the guys that eat out Chicas on their period and lick there assholes, this one sounds like another interesting topic of which I am guessing only a few partake in.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2418098]I was with this one about 2 years ago. She is skinny! Like two dimensional. I mean crazy skinny. Nice eyes, great attitude and not a clock watcher. BUT--I fingered her and got my hand just above my bell before I go smell a nasty strong fishy odor! Yuck! I mean her pussy stunk something horrible. So, I washed my hands, took a leak, and told her I only wanted a BBBJ. Which she gave-and it was quite good. She was cool--I just wish she wasn't so dammmmmmmm skinny-and her pussy didn't stink like a fish market gone bad.[/QUOTE]You should of went down on her!

First facebook girl I hit up was Angie Munoz and I thank everyone that recommended her. Her body is on point. And what shocked me the most was her oral skills. Top notch. She wouldn't let me nut in her mouth though. Oh well. After dealing with bitches from Cartagena, Barranquilla, and Santa Marta I had started giving up hope that Colombian bitches can suck any dick. And I have been through a good hundred or so. And a good thing about a girl like her that stays in the gym is that she can actually ride a dick without getting tired after a few minutes. But still got tired of fucking after an HR. But then again not many of these girls are going to let you mash they guts in for 2 straight hours not that I don't try LOL. Overall I had an awesome session with her and would definitely recommend and repeat. Her face isn't all that though. She aint' ugly but she just isn't gorgeous. Paid her 200 k for 3 hrs plus taxi which came to about 250 k since my airbnb is a little far out there.

Second Facebook chick I fucked was LLeraldine. ***** was a little demanding online. Told me to wait till I got here to speak because I guess she gets spammed a lot. And when I finally hit her up to set something up she tried to pressure me to set up something the same day but I called her out on her BS and told her I'm here for a month hit me up if she want to make some money. She immediately agreed to my original request for the following morning. So far I can only speak on 2 facebook girls but she actually surprised me when she showed up like 10 minutes early. Overall the ***** is skinny as fuck. Can't really take any dick. But I would repeat strictly for the head game because that shit was good. Thats two in a row and I hope that trend continues because who doesn't love getting there dick sucked. Plus I like to put them to work and earn they money. I have a few other girls I have on my list a couple I definitely want to try before I leave and will probably be repeating with Angie. Other than that I am still kind of working so I don't have all day to go casa and club hunting so maybe I will do that later on since I am here for while if I get tired of centro. Shout out to PolloNegro for showing me around centro. Shout out to everyone who gave me contacts and recommendations of Facebook girls. But I'm mainly be chilling in centro where you get more bang for your buck. I found one Colombian with a great attitude there who chilled with me the entire day for 150 k.

[QUOTE=ChicagoMan;2418208]Can anyone point me in the direction of a chica that can take a rough / deep facefucking?

Also, Is that a common thing in Colombia?[/QUOTE]Brazil, Brazil, Brazil.

Not stinky at all, the times I saw her. She looked great for me she has put on some weight so she is not skin and bones any more she has some really good curves now. Very nice cuca.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2418098]I was with this one about 2 years ago. She is skinny! Like two dimensional. I mean crazy skinny. Nice eyes, great attitude and not a clock watcher. BUT--I fingered her and got my hand just above my bell before I go smell a nasty strong fishy odor! Yuck! I mean her pussy stunk something horrible. So, I washed my hands, took a leak, and told her I only wanted a BBBJ. Which she gave-and it was quite good. She was cool--I just wish she wasn't so dammmmmmmm skinny-and her pussy didn't stink like a fish market gone bad.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChicagoMan;2418208]Can anyone point me in the direction of a chica that can take a rough / deep facefucking?

Also, Is that a common thing in Colombia?[/QUOTE]"Girls who like it rough"? As far as I know, virtually no girls like it rough, especially deep throat. Most of them nauseate as soon as you try stick it down there. That requires special training. Anal is much easier to get than deep throat. You have to find a girl and either pay her so she learns, or she has to value you for something else to put an effort. IMHO.

I have been looking for such girls for a while all over. They are very rare in my experience. I found one in Ukraine who didn't realize her talent. Again, most of the time though, it requires deliberate effort and training.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2418408]Brazil, Brazil, Brazil.[/QUOTE]Really? Is it common there? Easy to find? Ass and deep throat!! This is paradise. I might be going there next!

[QUOTE=Junior11;2418267]Hahaha, you got it.

Seriously though, I've been three times (once in the morning, once at lunch, and once after 4:30 pm). Didn't find anyone I liked. I didn't stay long there though. One or 2 laps and I was gone.[/QUOTE]Well as your aware, your not really going to get a lot of choices when it comes to the pregnant ones as typically there's no more than one or two out at a time and I think last Thursday was an anomaly.

Now that Mr. E is coming to town this Sunday, you guys may end up fighting over a few of them if your out, and these Chicas may have a good day. Yesterday at 4:30 PM there was a pretty Venezuelan out that looked about six months along at ground zero.

I've done a few in the past and it can just be so limiting what you can do with a pregnant Chica. And for the guys who like it rough, well the thought of hurting their future offspring while pounding on them is something to be considered.

It's sad that these Chicas have to bang guys to survive while their pregnant. And what's even worse are their lazy ass boyfriends who send them out to work while they drink and get high. If you look closely around ground zero and spend a fair amount of time there like I do, you will see the Venezuelans who are working will have their boyfriends come up to them and give them a hug at times and than split. It's a sad plight for the Venezuelans and especially the pregnant ones having to suck cock and take a pounding.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2417873]I remember telling someone the biggest danger in El Centro is the sidewalks.

Leave your debit cards locked up in your room. Only take one with you when you plan to use it.

Most of the gringos who go to Colombia, go to Medellin, Bogota or Cartagena, because that's where there are the most reports from gringos. Then the same gringos, who went there because of all the gringo reports, complain about too many gringos.

If you're ankle is up to walking a block, when you walk out the door of New Life, turn right. Go to the corner and turn right. About two thirds down the block, stop in at Delicias Al Natural. You'll recognize it by the bakery case and the menus written on blackboards. The food is excellent and cheap and the owner, Juan, speaks excellent English. He's also an incredibly nice guy.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great tip. A great find for a veggie restaurant.

Having some luck with getting numbers from casa girls. I had a TLN last night with one for 200 K She said to me (is it not better the second time we make love)? A few nights ago I went in one of the bars at ground zero. Ordered a 5 K beer, and soon I had 4 girls at my table dancing with me. I bought a few bottles of Agua Dente at 55 K. Those girls really know how to grind. Even though I have been here many times in the past I seen to be really learning more about MDE each day.

Before I get blasted for spending time dancing with chica's while not getting pussy well I like to that sometimes.

My ankle is much better. I'm able to walk in Centro now with only a little pain.

[QUOTE=Zhagolo52;2418464]Not stinky at all, the times I saw her. She looked great for me she has put on some weight so she is not skin and bones any more she has some really good curves now. Very nice cuca.[/QUOTE]I would consider seeing her again. If I can get past the smell memory. She as really cool and chill. On. Time, great BJ. I liked her --if she put on a little weight and fixed the odor. I'd def. Recommend!

Casa blue room.

5 girls, 2 look good. Its basic service, massage, CBJ and sex. Happy enough though wouldn't return or recommend. Same service and looks as I got in mezzanines in Bogata but at 100 k hh and 150 k hour so not great value. Girl wouldn't stop asking for a propina and was pissed off when I said no, crazy.

I'm here 10 more days if anyone is around. Will mainly stick to online options though.

[QUOTE=Kelso1;2418564]Thanks for the great tip. A great find for a veggie restaurant.

Having some luck with getting numbers from casa girls. I had a TLN last night with one for 200 K She said to me (is it not better the second time we make love)? A few nights ago I went in one of the bars at ground zero. Ordered a 5 K beer, and soon I had 4 girls at my table dancing with me. I bought a few bottles of Agua Dente at 55 K. Those girls really know how to grind. Even though I have been here many times in the past I seen to be really learning more about MDE each day.

Before I get blasted for spending time dancing with chica's while not getting pussy well I like to that sometimes.

My ankle is much better. I'm able to walk in Centro now with only a little pain.[/QUOTE]Blasted for dancing with the Chicas, I don't think so, your doing what a lot of guys don't do and having a good time besides banging. However, in reality, they were dancing with you to drink the Aquardiente you were buying, and there is nothing wrong with that either. Sounds like your having a great time and that's all that matters.

Try Govinda (calle 51 #51-17 just off Plaza Botero) for vegetarian. It's second floor location overlooks the Veracruz church and the "ground zero" denizens moving through the area.

[QUOTE=Kelso1;2418564]Thanks for the great tip. A great find for a veggie restaurant.

Having some luck with getting numbers from casa girls. I had a TLN last night with one for 200 K She said to me (is it not better the second time we make love)? A few nights ago I went in one of the bars at ground zero. Ordered a 5 K beer, and soon I had 4 girls at my table dancing with me. I bought a few bottles of Agua Dente at 55 K. Those girls really know how to grind. Even though I have been here many times in the past I seen to be really learning more about MDE each day.

Before I get blasted for spending time dancing with chica's while not getting pussy well I like to that sometimes.

My ankle is much better. I'm able to walk in Centro now with only a little pain.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2418558]Well as your aware, your not really going to get a lot of choices when it comes to the pregnant ones as typically there's no more than one or two out at a time and I think last Thursday was an anomaly.

Now that Mr. E is coming to town this Sunday, you guys may end up fighting over a few of them if your out, and these Chicas may have a good day. Yesterday at 4:30 PM there was a pretty Venezuelan out that looked about six months along at ground zero.

I've done a few in the past and it can just be so limiting what you can do with a pregnant Chica. And for the guys who like it rough, well the thought of hurting their future offspring while pounding on them is something to be considered.

It's sad that these Chicas have to bang guys to survive while their pregnant. And what's even worse are their lazy ass boyfriends who send them out to work while they drink and get high. If you look closely around ground zero and spend a fair amount of time there like I do, you will see the Venezuelans who are working will have their boyfriends come up to them and give them a hug at times and than split. It's a sad plight for the Venezuelans and especially the pregnant ones having to suck cock and take a pounding.[/QUOTE]Educate me please. What make a pregnant chick attractive? Wouldn't you rather bang two 18 year olds, who are full of energy and flexibility?

As for guys sending their pregnant girlfriend out to earn money by having sex with strangers, is it really believable? Which girl in their right mind would do that? Does the future father feel any type of guilt? The amount of earning from his pregnant girlfriend is hardly enough to offset that internal guilt which will eat him alive. This arrangement is as unoptimized as it gets. Why not give her an abortion, in the long run, it will increase her earning potential and save both of them a ton of trouble.

Yeah she has put on about 15 lbs maybe more she definitely has more meat than before. She is taller than typical Paisa maybe 5' 8" so yeah she still a flaca and not a traditional round big ass colombiana. I can tell you that she is very clean and she tastes super delish! Just my 2 cents. Had an amazing time the times I have been with her.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2418586]I would consider seeing her again. If I can get past the smell memory. She as really cool and chill. On. Time, great BJ. I liked her --if she put on a little weight and fixed the odor. I'd def. Recommend![/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Zhagolo52;2418784]Yeah she has put on about 15 lbs maybe more she definitely has more meat than before. She is taller than typical Paisa maybe 5' 8" so yeah she still a flaca and not a traditional round big ass colombiana. I can tell you that she is very clean and she tastes super delish! Just my 2 cents. Had an amazing time the times I have been with her..[/QUOTE]I flt bad writing something not so nie about her--but it was true--she was a really cool chick. Showed up on time, smoked out with me for a bit and was compliant. Based on your words, I will see her again when I am back in pussy heaven in a few weeks.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2418639]Educate me please. What make a pregnant chick attractive? Wouldn't you rather bang two 18 year olds, who are full of energy and flexibility?

As for guys sending their pregnant girlfriend out to earn money by having sex with strangers, is it really believable? Which girl in their right mind would do that? Does the future father feel any type of guilt? The amount of earning from his pregnant girlfriend is hardly enough to offset that internal guilt which will eat him alive. This arrangement is as unoptimized as it gets. Why not give her an abortion, in the long run, it will increase her earning potential and save both of them a ton of trouble.[/QUOTE]What makes a fat chica attractive? A skinny one? A young one, old one, blonde one, brunette one, light one, dark one? What makes large breasts and big butts attractive? What makes small ones attractive?

Everyone has a different opinion on what they find attractive. Those opinions change over time. Most of it doesn't have to do with the woman. It has to do with what's going on in our minds.

I'll use you as an example. You're constantly mentioning 18 years old. I know women who are getting close to 30 who look more like an 18 year old than many Medellin 18 year olds. Yet, if I tell you their age, you will immediately lose interest. Because, no matter what your eyes see, your brain is telling you she's too old. Seeing the cedula didn't change her, it changed your perception.

Some guys see pregnancy as very attractive. Culturally, most primitive societies venerated pregnancy. Look at how often the female form is depicted pregnant. It's the ultimate virility symbol.

However, I understand your dislike. The judeo-christian culture values virginity over all else. Pregnancy, especially if the woman is unmarried is a sign of uncleanliness. It's also a sign of ownership. To some that's a turn-on, others a turn-off.

What internal guilt? At the first sign of pregnancy, most of the guys take off like Speedy Gonzalez. Not many are going to accept responsibility. Even if they do, it doesn't put food on the table. If their girl was turning tricks before, nothing has changed. It's her job.

Funny thing about the Catholics and abortion vs. Prostitution. One is a forgivable necessity, the other an unforgivable sin.

Sorry, if that has been mentioned many times. I did a quick forum search, looked at the Medellin map, and PDF, I don't see Ground Zero. I found "Cra 74 # 101 be - 04", but that is too far away from Centro. Is this just a code name for something?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2418558]Now that Mr. E is coming to town this Sunday, you guys may end up fighting over a few of them if your out, and these Chicas may have a good day. Yesterday at 4:30 PM there was a pretty Venezuelan out that looked about six months along at ground zero.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SJobs;2418639]Educate me please. What make a pregnant chick attractive? Wouldn't you rather bang two 18 year olds, who are full of energy and flexibility?[/QUOTE]Education is people like all different things. One day I want to eat chili dogs and the next day I want to eat rotisserie chicken. One day I want to fuck a short dark-skin chick and the next day I want to fuck a tall white chick. One day I want to fuck a chick with really short hair and the next day I want to fuck a chick with really long hair. Why would I want to fuck an 18 year old full of energy and flexibility everyday? Hell, I didn't even like fucking 18 year olds when I was 18! And I don't go around checking IDs to make sure a chick is in a certain age bracket. That makes no sense to me. I go around and see a chick I like and I fuck them. Unless it is a special day, I don't go out hunting for a particular thing. Variety is the spice of life.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2418639]As for guys sending their pregnant girlfriend out to earn money by having sex with strangers, is it really believable? Which girl in their right mind would do that? Does the future father feel any type of guilt? The amount of earning from his pregnant girlfriend is hardly enough to offset that internal guilt which will eat him alive. This arrangement is as unoptimized as it gets. Why not give her an abortion, in the long run, it will increase her earning potential and save both of them a ton of trouble.[/QUOTE]Guilt? We are talking about street shit here. There is no guilt in street shit. Prostitution, tricking off, dope dealing, dope using, scamming. People that feel guilty are hanging in churches, and not out doing street shit. Why do you assume having an abortion will increase earning potential? Maybe she makes way more pregnant than she ever did not being pregnant. And save what kind of trouble?

A couple of weeks ago people were asking who in their right mind would be in Medellin partaking in drugs. People do things. I might not understand the things that you do and you might not understand the things that I do. That is why the phrase to each his own exists.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2413385]Do you worry about STDs? As far as I know, it is much easier to catch from pussy than mouth.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=SJobs;2413709]This is a involved question. I don't think I can answer it with a paragraph or two. I'm in heaven, A. K. A Medellin, right now; enjoying myself to the full extent, I don't feel like writing a long response. Maybe after I return to the sex prison, A. K. a the states, I will find time to share my opinion on this topic.[/QUOTE]If so, do you mind sharing your opinion on this? I can't wait.

Oops, shit. Thanks for this info. I did have a feeling the ID didn't match the girl several days ago. Even under focused lighting, I don't think I can be more than 90% sure.

More importantly, what else can we do besides inspecting it visually? What are the possible negative consequences for mongers, if we did our best to confirm age?

[QUOTE=SJobs;2412759]As I'm getting more and more comfortable with some of my go-to Facebook girls, our conversations started to get deeper and deeper (I'm still using google translate, the only three words of Spanish I know is still "si", "hola" and "gracias" One of my girl reviewed my Facebook chica list and she spotted a few 17 year olds. I was completely shocked. I always triple check IDs and take a picture of them. She told me most of the girls have fake IDs, you need to really examine their ids. You need to put the ID under focused lighting and see the watermark reflection. Just a FYI for mongers who likes girls in the age range of 18-21. Please be careful.[/QUOTE]

Majo alvarez barrios FB entrepreneur. She is HOT in a barrio hoodrat kinda way with much plastic. Wondering if anyone had tried her out yet. If you want just PM me.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2418639]
As for guys sending their pregnant girlfriend out to earn money by having sex with strangers, is it really believable? Which girl in their right mind would do that? Does the future father feel any type of guilt? The amount of earning from his pregnant girlfriend is hardly enough to offset that internal guilt which will eat him alive. This arrangement is as unoptimized as it gets. Why not give her an abortion, in the long run, it will increase her earning potential and save both of them a ton of trouble.[/QUOTE]Sufer mentioned many times that his chicas don't have phone. A good used / stolen smart phone cost about 100 K but many can't afford it. You can see mother pimp daughter out if you are around long enough. I got offer from chica with kid playing nearby. She said her "brother" helps her watch the kid while she is with customer. Most are poor and are doing it for survival

[QUOTE=SJobs;2418639]

As for guys sending their pregnant girlfriend out to earn money by having sex with strangers, is it really believable? Which girl in their right mind would do that? Does the future father feel any type of guilt? The amount of earning from his pregnant girlfriend is hardly enough to offset that internal guilt which will eat him alive. This arrangement is as unoptimized as it gets. Why not give her an abortion, in the long run, it will increase her earning potential and save both of them a ton of trouble.[/QUOTE]You seem to be a cool guy, and you definitely enjoy Colombia, however, you're naive to the culture.

Basically, these dudes from the barrios do not give a f**k.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2418801]Sorry, if that has been mentioned many times. I did a quick forum search, looked at the Medellin map, and PDF, I don't see Ground Zero. I found "Cra 74 # 101 be - 04", but that is too far away from Centro. Is this just a code name for something?[/QUOTE]If you can find Plaza Botero, you're close enough to ground zero.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2418808]Oops, shit. Thanks for this info. I did have a feeling the ID didn't match the girl several days ago. Even under focused lighting, I don't think I can be more than 90% sure.

More importantly, what else can we do besides inspecting it visually? What are the possible negative consequences for mongers, if we did our best to confirm age?[/QUOTE]Doing your best to confirm age doesn't mean anything.

There's really no guarantee on anything. Girls borrow cedulas from sisters, cousins and friends, or they go buy a fake one. It might not even mean they are under the magic age. If a girl has lost her cedula or had it stolen and she has a cita in a building where they check cedulas, she'll borrow one. That's an exception though.

The possible consequences. Search for stories on Colombia Jake. His situation was different from the typical monger, but his fate is one of the possible consequences. Even if the Colombian authorities just decide to kick you out of the country you can be certain someone will be waiting for you when you get off the plane.

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;2418827]Majo alvarez barrios FB entrepreneur. She is HOT in a barrio hoodrat kinda way with much plastic. Wondering if anyone had tried her out yet. If you want just PM me.[/QUOTE]I've seen 2 reports on her. One said she was great, the other called her just average.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2418830]Sufer mentioned many times that his chicas don't have phone. A good used / stolen smart phone cost about 100 K but many can't afford it. You can see mother pimp daughter out if you are around long enough. I got offer from chica with kid playing nearby. She said her "brother" helps her watch the kid while she is with customer. Most are poor and are doing it for survival[/QUOTE]I've seen worse than that. Someone I knew chatted up a grandmother and granddaughter who run a kiosk in El Centro. He bought a 13 k dress from the grandmother, to give to the granddaughter, on the condition he could take the granddaughter back to his apartment for 20 k.

It's not just Colombia, or the third world. Way back when I worked for a San Diego towing company a woman offered up her daughter instead of cash to get her car out of impound.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2418801]Sorry, if that has been mentioned many times. I did a quick forum search, looked at the Medellin map, and PDF, I don't see Ground Zero. I found "Cra 74 # 101 be - 04", but that is too far away from Centro. Is this just a code name for something?[/QUOTE]I was kind of waiting for a Centro regular to answer this because I am curious myself. I am fairly certain that It is Calle 52 and Carrera 52, the southwest corner of Botero Plaza, one block north of Veracruz church (Iglesia De La Veracruz on a map). Ground Zero is not a place you will find listed on a map. It is just the spot that I assume Centro regulars consider the center of the action in Centro. If I am wrong I hope a Centro regular jumps in an corrects me.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2418801]Ground Zero[/QUOTE]Ground zero is obviously on Carrera 53, between Calle 51 and 52.

Ground zero Carrera 53 is a very short street. If you want to chose a corner, it will be one of the street corners listed above (Carrera 53/Calle 51 or Carrera 53/Calle 52).

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2418804]Education is people like all different things. One day I want to eat chili dogs and the next day I want to eat rotisserie chicken. One day I want to fuck a short dark-skin chick and the next day I want to fuck a tall white chick. One day I want to fuck a chick with really short hair and the next day I want to fuck a chick with really long hair. Why would I want to fuck an 18 year old full of energy and flexibility everyday? Hell, I didn't even like fucking 18 year olds when I was 18! And I don't go around checking IDs to make sure a chick is in a certain age bracket. That makes no sense to me. I go around and see a chick I like and I fuck them. Unless it is a special day, I don't go out hunting for a particular thing. Variety is the spice of life. [/QUOTE]Fair enough. I like fucking girls in all varieties too. Depending on my mood, there are days I want short girls, days I want tall girls, some days I crave for dark-skin girls and other days I desire fair-skin girls, as long as they are young and full of energy and flexibility. The evolutionary argument made by Jjbee62 actually made some sense, but it has some inconsistencies. I will reply to his post directly on this topic. Maybe one day I will take a pregnant 18-year-old for a spin, at least I don't have to worry about getting her pregnant while fucking her.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2418804]Guilt? We are talking about street shit here. There is no guilt in street shit. Prostitution, tricking off, dope dealing, dope using, scamming. People that feel guilty are hanging in churches, and not out doing street shit. Why do you assume having an abortion will increase earning potential? Maybe she makes way more pregnant than she ever did not being pregnant. And save what kind of trouble?.[/QUOTE]Really? If you follow the evolutionary train of reasoning, this type of guilt is a desirable feature that evolution will preserve. Regardless, from a pure efficiency standpoint, I'm sure a chick who is not pregnant can work more hours compare to a pregnant chick (especially during and after pregnancy). Rising a child involves more than just a little bit trouble, especially if the family is in financial hardship.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2418872]Doing your best to confirm age doesn't mean anything.

There's really no guarantee on anything. Girls borrow cedulas from sisters, cousins and friends, or they go buy a fake one. It might not even mean they are under the magic age. If a girl has lost her cedula or had it stolen and she has a cita in a building where they check cedulas, she'll borrow one. That's an exception though.

The possible consequences. Search for stories on Colombia Jake. His situation was different from the typical monger, but his fate is one of the possible consequences. Even if the Colombian authorities just decide to kick you out of the country you can be certain someone will be waiting for you when you get off the plane.[/QUOTE]This is my biggest concern mongering in Medellin. I searched for the story on "Colombia Jake" in the forum, but I couldn't find anything. More experienced mongers, please advise on the best way to avoid getting into trouble when all the girls are using fake IDs. As far as I can think of, entrapment is the only way for a monger to get caught. It is almost impossible for cops to randomly show up in your apartment while you are having sex with a girl who is using a fake ID. What happens to the girls if they get caught selling sex while using a fake ID?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2418798]=I'll use you as an example. You're constantly mentioning 18 years old. I know women who are getting close to 30 who look more like an 18 year old than many Medellin 18 year olds. Yet, if I tell you their age, you will immediately lose interest. Because, no matter what your eyes see, your brain is telling you she's too old. Seeing the cedula didn't change her, it changed your perception.

Some guys see pregnancy as very attractive. Culturally, most primitive societies venerated pregnancy. Look at how often the female form is depicted pregnant. It's the ultimate virility symbol. [/QUOTE]Evolution will invariably force us to favor the younger look and healthy body, I believe that's why 18-21-year-olds are so desirable to many of us. I agree the primitive-society can view pregnancy as a symbol of virility; however, from an evolutionary standpoint, I don't think the desire to have sexual intercourse with a pregnant chick is a feature that enhances the survival of our primitive ancestors, and here is why:

One of the key reasons why we are attracted to young and healthy women is because they have a higher likelihood of getting pregnant. Thus, giving us a higher chance to propagate our genes, we are genetically programmed to desire self-extension. In the case of having sex with a pregnant chick, they will certainly not get pregnant again during their pregnancy; therefore, banging a pregnant girl offers zero chance of gene propagation. Evolution will undoubtedly recognize this shortcoming and quickly eliminate the genes that lead to sexual desire towards pregnant women and promote the genes that find them sexually unattractive.

On the contrary, having the desire to ensure the survival of a pregnant girl is unquestionably a desirable feature that evolution will preserve; this is why sending the woman who is carrying one's child to work on a dangerous street produces a deep sense of guilty feeling.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2418798] Funny thing about the Catholics and abortion vs. Prostitution. One is a forgivable necessity, the other an unforgivable sin.[/QUOTE]It took the Catholics church 200 years to admit that Copernicus and Galileo's heliocentric theory isn't heresy. I wonder how long it will take for them to change their opinion on abortion.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2418807]If so, do you mind sharing your opinion on this? I can't wait.[/QUOTE]I have been back in hell for a few weeks. Now I'm too depressed to write anything of length. Why are the girls in America so unattractive and high maintenance? I can no longer go through a bumble date with a borderline attractive girl in her late 20's; her drinks for the night will cost more than a kick-ass 4-hour threesome with two hot Paisas. Man, someday I wish I have never stepped on that plane to Medellin. Anyways, the good news is that I will be back to Medellin in two weeks for another three-week stay. Maybe I will write something right after I get to Medellin before my first Tussi party.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2418903]I was kind of waiting for a Centro regular to answer this because I am curious myself. I am fairly certain that It is Calle 52 and Carrera 52, the southwest corner of Botero Plaza, one block north of Veracruz church (Iglesia De La Veracruz on a map). Ground Zero is not a place you will find listed on a map. It is just the spot that I assume Centro regulars consider the center of the action in Centro. If I am wrong I hope a Centro regular jumps in an corrects me.[/QUOTE]I suppose I am to blame for all this confusion about what is Ground Zero as I have repeatedly identified the Intersection of Callle 52 and Carrea 52 where this is a street sign with signs identifying the location which I have referred to as Ground Zero in my posts. And as you have surmised, I consider it the center of the action in El Centro. In every direction you will find Chicas with easily a few hundred of them within a 500 foot radius of this location around 5 PM in the afternoon. The 500 foot radius would include all of the pedestrian walkway up to including the Veracruz Church and side street, all of the pedestrian walkway in front of the Museum, the entire park directly in front of the Intersection Calle 52 and Carrea 52, and the pedestrian walkway on the side of the Museum.

So over the past few years with the heavy influx of Venezuelans SW's, they basically have taken over the area immediately adjacent to Carrea 52 and Calle 52 by their sheer numbers. They have been congregating there, creating their own space away from the Colombians SW's, because the Colombian SW's are pissed off at them for taking away a lot of their business. They also tend to congregate in groups almost always, where as the Colombians don't congregate in groups much. There are so many of them now that it's almost like your in Venezuela at that intersection, and hence I liken it to a "Little Caracas".

[QUOTE=SJobs;2418639]As for guys sending their pregnant girlfriend out to earn money by having sex with strangers, is it really believable? Which girl in their right mind would do that? Does the future father feel any type of guilt? The amount of earning from his pregnant girlfriend is hardly enough to offset that internal guilt which will eat him alive. This arrangement is as unoptimized as it gets. Why not give her an abortion, in the long run, it will increase her earning potential and save both of them a ton of trouble.[/QUOTE]I think you got a lot of the other posters thinking you were serious on this one.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2418808]Oops, shit. Thanks for this info. I did have a feeling the ID didn't match the girl several days ago. Even under focused lighting, I don't think I can be more than 90% sure.

More importantly, what else can we do besides inspecting it visually? What are the possible negative consequences for mongers, if we did our best to confirm age?[/QUOTE]Something you should consider, at least I do, if someone looks young, meaning under eighteen, I don't even bother asking for an ID and pass. Also another thing to consider are the hotels you are using in El Centro. The cheaper ones on the backside of the Church that charge 5 K are pretty loose as to whom they allow in, where as the higher costing Hotels like the Premium Plaza will check ID' and will have more experience in spotting fake ID's than you will. In regards to consequences, the age of consent in Colombia is 14 where as in the US it is 18 which all US Citizens must abide by anywhere in the World or suffer dire consequences.

Got it, thanks. I've been there. Some hot chicks that sit outside of bars usually by themselves don't make eye contact and kind of look away. I guess they are just bait for folks to walk in, right?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2418903]I was kind of waiting for a Centro regular to answer this because I am curious myself. I am fairly certain that It is Calle 52 and Carrera 52, the southwest corner of Botero Plaza, one block north of Veracruz church (Iglesia De La Veracruz on a map). Ground Zero is not a place you will find listed on a map. It is just the spot that I assume Centro regulars consider the center of the action in Centro. If I am wrong I hope a Centro regular jumps in an corrects me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2418917]Ground zero is obviously on Carrera 53, between Calle 51 and 52.

Ground zero Carrera 53 is a very short street. If you want to chose a corner, it will be one of the street corners listed above (Carrera 53/Calle 51 or Carrera 53/Calle 52).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2418872]Even if the Colombian authorities just decide to kick you out of the country you can be certain someone will be waiting for you when you get off the plane.[/QUOTE]My favorite line.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2418872]The possible consequences. Search for stories on Colombia Jake. His situation was different from the typical monger, but his fate is one of the possible consequences. Even if the Colombian authorities just decide to kick you out of the country you can be certain someone will be waiting for you when you get off the plane.[/QUOTE]Colombia Jake was accused of dealing in girls under 15 years old. The age of consent in Colombia is 15, but it is illegal for anyone under 18 to engage in prostitution. For US citizens, the laws of the state where a person resides dictate the age of consent.

A few years ago, a German, who was a legal resident of Florida while living in Medellin, was pimping underage girls in Colombia. He was arrested when he returned to Florida. He was convicted and send to federal prison. I suppose Colombian authorities worked with US authorities because it was easier to convict him in the US.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2419010]Colombia Jake was accused of dealing in girls under 15 years old. The age of consent in Colombia is 15, but it is illegal for anyone under 18 to engage in prostitution. For US citizens, the laws of the state where a person resides dictate the age of consent.

A few years ago, a German, who was a legal resident of Florida while living in Medellin, was pimping underage girls in Colombia. He was arrested when he returned to Florida. He was convicted and send to federal prison. I suppose Colombian authorities worked with US authorities because it was easier to convict him in the US.[/QUOTE]30 years for paying a person in a foreign country under the age of 18 for sex.

[URL]https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2423[/URL]

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2419010]Colombia Jake was accused of dealing in girls under 15 years old. The age of consent in Colombia is 15, but it is illegal for anyone under 18 to engage in prostitution. For US citizens, the laws of the state where a person resides dictate the age of consent.

A few years ago, a German, who was a legal resident of Florida while living in Medellin, was pimping underage girls in Colombia. He was arrested when he returned to Florida. He was convicted and send to federal prison. I suppose Colombian authorities worked with US authorities because it was easier to convict him in the US.[/QUOTE]That's the difficulty, for foreigners, with the Colombian legal system. Colombia Jake was accused, not convicted. However, in Colombia, at the discretion of the authorities, you go to prison until they decide to send you to trial. As we all know, no trial ended up being needed.

Age of consent, never comes into play for anyone from the US or Canada. Both countries have laws prohibiting travel in order to have sex with minors, regardless of the age of consent in the home state or foreign country.

There's also the potential issue with the guys who take photos and videos, if it turns out the subject is under 18. Each person's potential liability will vary. Here's an extreme example:

[URL]https://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/crime/noblesville-man-sentenced-to-life-in-child-sex-tourism-case[/URL]

[QUOTE=Junior11;2418466]..............Really? Is it common there? Easy to find? Ass and deep throat!! This is paradise. I might be going there next![/QUOTE]Brazil is ass lovers' paradise. Also the best deep throat in the world is to be had there.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2418798]What makes a fat chica attractive? A skinny one? A young one, old one, blonde one, brunette one, light one, dark one? What makes large breasts and big butts attractive? What makes small ones attractive?

Everyone has a different opinion on what they find attractive. Those opinions change over time. Most of it doesn't have to do with the woman. It has to do with what's going on in our minds.

I'll use you as an example. You're constantly mentioning 18 years old. I know women who are getting close to 30 who look more like an 18 year old than many Medellin 18 year olds. Yet, if I tell you their age, you will immediately lose interest. Because, no matter what your eyes see, your brain is telling you she's too old. Seeing the cedula didn't change her, it changed your perception.[/QUOTE]I want to amplify something JjBee62 said, because I think there is some benefit to the community. Many of the guys who visit are absolutely focused on the 18-21 why / o girl. Why is that? We think those girls are the most attractive, have the least mileage, and so on. Is it true? Maybe, but maybe not.

I think you have to ask yourself what do you enjoy the most in sexual terms? Is it the youthful appearance of the girl? Her performance of various activities? Her general demeanor and attitude?

What excites you the most? What turns you off?

Would you rather see that 19 why / o that is f'ing gorgeous, even if she does't want to kiss you, wants to cover you for oral, and once you've enjoyed yourself, she will race you to the shower with a starting speed that would make Usain Bolt jealous. Is that what you want? It's available and in big numbers.

Take a slightly different available experience. Say there is a young woman who is in her early 30's. She is gorgeous, doesn't drink alcohol or beer (although a little wine once in awhile). She doesn't eat fried foods and avoids foods with sugar. She goes to the gym for an hour 5 days a week to maintain her figure, she is impeccably groomed with nails done. If you met her, you would swear she was mid 20's at most. If you allowed yourself to session with her, you would find that she goes out of her way to please you as much as her safety standards will allow. She smothers you with kisses and after you finish (if you want) she will keep hold of you to coax a second pleasure. She'll treat you like a valued friend / lover. She will want a little more than the other girl. Oh and if you can speak a little Spanish, you will find her patient (with the language hiccups) and full of interesting stories about Colombian life.

So, I'm full circle back to JjBee62's point. It is all about perception.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2416107]Anyways I have to bust a nut with this Viagra, the pin she sends me is. 8 miles from la 70. No way I'm taxiing that shit, I'm a cheap fuck, so I say be there in ten. I take off my shirt and speed walk / jog to her location. It's on carr 78 a, the same brothel apt / where I couldn't get hard with the other 90 k girl. I'm trying not to sweat while sending her updates on whatsapp as I speed walk lmao. I catch my breath, she opens the door and it's this 5 ft black hair white vennie, about 150, but man all of it is in tits and ass. No belly. Like a little fuck doll. Super sweet girl. I could care less about GFE at this point, I just want to cum.[/QUOTE]They don't call you Walker for nothing LOL.

Thanks for the tips regarding casa Natalia. Went there in the morning. Was the only customer there. 3 girls, one my type (22-25, looks / experience 8/8). It was good.

The Uber platform is disabled today Feb 1 as expected. Worked fine last night but shut down today. I'll be using Didi. The chicas all use Indriver.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2418950]I have been back in hell for a few weeks. Now I'm too depressed to write anything of length. Why are the girls in America so unattractive and high maintenance? I can no longer go through a bumble date with a borderline attractive girl in her late 20's; her drinks for the night will cost more than a kick-ass 4-hour threesome with two hot Paisas. Man, someday I wish I have never stepped on that plane to Medellin. Anyways, the good news is that I will be back to Medellin in two weeks for another three-week stay. Maybe I will write something right after I get to Medellin before my first Tussi party.[/QUOTE]I don't know why guys bother paying for these girls you take out on dates. Take the ***** out for ice cream and a walk LOL. These girls want equal pay and equal rights so they can pay for their equal share of the bill. FOH. Shit at the very least we can alternate buying rounds. After 3 or 4 rounds if her ass ain't trying to go back to your spot or take you back to hers then you're just wasting your time. Fuck I look like entertaining a ***** all night. Charge these girls to the game and move on to the next.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2418944]Evolution will invariably force us to favor the younger look and healthy body, I believe that's why 18-21-year-olds are so desirable to many of us. I agree the primitive-society can view pregnancy as a symbol of virility; however, from an evolutionary standpoint, I don't think the desire to have sexual intercourse with a pregnant chick is a feature that enhances the survival of our primitive ancestors, and here is why:

One of the key reasons why we are attracted to young and healthy women is because they have a higher likelihood of getting pregnant. Thus, giving us a higher chance to propagate our genes, we are genetically programmed to desire self-extension. In the case of having sex with a pregnant chick, they will certainly not get pregnant again during their pregnancy; therefore, banging a pregnant girl offers zero chance of gene propagation. Evolution will undoubtedly recognize this shortcoming and quickly eliminate the genes that lead to sexual desire towards pregnant women and promote the genes that find them sexually unattractive.

On the contrary, having the desire to ensure the survival of a pregnant girl is unquestionably a desirable feature that evolution will preserve; this is why sending the woman who is carrying one's child to work on a dangerous street produces a deep sense of guilty feeling.

It took the Catholics church 200 years to admit that Copernicus and Galileo's heliocentric theory isn't heresy. I wonder how long it will take for them to change their opinion on abortion.[/QUOTE]I think you're overthinking this. 18 to 21 maybe a few years older depending on the guy is solely based on looks. Their bodies tend to definitely be tighter wrinkle free etc. The older a ***** gets the more make up she needs. Yes it might be different in Colombia where all women keep their body in shape but no matter what she will never be hotter than a girl in her early 20's. And if you spent most of your life in a country like America where [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] let themselves go and truly look their fucking age if not older than obviously your mind is trained to seek that age group that your accustomed to being the hottest. And I'm talking strictly from a looks perspective and not talking about experience and intelligence because let's face it your wasting your time trying to engage in a meaningful conversation with these young bitches. From my experience here so far in Medellin these so called 18 yr [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] look fucking 15 and how many of them got no cédula? The majority. So most likely they are underage and just not worth the risk IMHO.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2419101]Would you rather see that 19 why / o that is f'ing gorgeous, even if she does't want to kiss you, wants to cover you for oral, and once you've enjoyed yourself, she will race you to the shower with a starting speed that would make Usain Bolt jealous. Is that what you want? It's available and in big numbers.

Take a slightly different available experience. Say there is a young woman who is in her early 30's.

So, I'm full circle back to JjBee62's point. It is all about perception.[/QUOTE]But what if the 19 year old is the way you described the 30 year old, and the 30 year old is the way you described the 19 year old?

[QUOTE=Junior11;2418996]Got it, thanks. I've been there. Some hot chicks that sit outside of bars usually by themselves don't make eye contact and kind of look away. I guess they are just bait for folks to walk in, right?[/QUOTE]Why do some guys concern themselves with eye contact? That is like a game a woman would play. Well I was waiting for you to make eye contact, but you didn't. If you like the person, then walk up and talk to them. Fuck the peek-a-boo games.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2418935]What happens to the girls if they get caught selling sex while using a fake ID?[/QUOTE]LOL. There are tons of chicks on Degrieff and Santa Fe that don't even LOOK old enough to get an ID. Ain't shit going to happen to them. (The police is right there in front of them all night and I have not seen them fuck with them yet.) Best to worry about what could happen to you if you fuck with them.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2418923]Really? If you follow the evolutionary train of reasoning, this type of guilt is a desirable feature that evolution will preserve. Regardless, from a pure efficiency standpoint, I'm sure a chick who is not pregnant can work more hours compare to a pregnant chick (especially during and after pregnancy). Rising a child involves more than just a little bit trouble, especially if the family is in financial hardship.[/QUOTE]You are speaking just like a man that is going back to Medellin in two weeks and staying for three weeks. When you are in a different boat, such as not knowing if you will be able to come up with the rent or if you will be able to eat tonight, all that philosophizing goes out of the window. Guilt is a learned behavior; it is not innate as you are ascribing. And it still does not affect half the people that have been taught it. You see that from watching the news everyday. Last year there was a man in Florida that had just bought an $8 million island, yet he was caught stealing from Kmart. Where was his guilt?

I was in the north of Thailand with my mom and my aunts. In the middle of the day there were kids out begging. My mom asked me why those kids were out there instead of in school. I started laughing. Spoken just like someone from a first world country. School is way down the list on the survival scale. Money for food and rent is way up on the scale, no matter how it can be obtained.

How do you know the pregnant chick is not able to charge twice as much as the other chicks because she is a novelty? And pregnant does not mean incapacitated. Maybe all these parking spaces for pregnant chicks have you fooled. Reminds me of Curb Your Enthusiasm the other day when Larry David thought the pregnant woman was going to have problems with the baby because she was at the gym exercising and out doing the same normal shit she would do if she was not pregnant.

Unfortunately, poor people do not think about the financial hardship and time that is involved when they are getting knocked up or knocking people up. The evolutionary train ensures that more people will be made, no matter if the people are filthy rich or dirt poor. Economic position has no bearing in whether more mfs in the animal kingdom will be or can be created. No matter how important we want to make ourselves feel, our only job here is to continue to populate the place.

I was in Medellin from Saturday Jan 25th until Monday the 27th. Clearly there must be 2 centro's or 2 ground zero's because, clearly ground zero is Calle 52 and Carrera 52. Now, this is the infamous pole that all of the vennies use to hang around, but not many vennies can hang around the pole anymore, because many of you board members have impregnated all of the Vennies who use to hang around the pole. I kid you not; I counted over 17 pregnant girls in Centro on my arrival.

The infamous pole was designated for all of the pretty 18-20 yr old Vennies, but I can assure you that many of you Gringos have impregnated these honeys. I absolutely laughed about the entire situation and capitalized on the entire event. I banged 9 chicas on Saturday and 6 on Sunday and I did not have to move an inch. Many of the impregnated chicas that wouldn't give me a second look in August and September were begging me for a no holds barred cita with them on this trip. I thought that was seriously funny. I have an answer for SJobs, on post as well, one of the pregnant chicas was walking with her husband and she spoke to me, I politely spoke back and gave her a hug, then I asked her was she working and she said yes. The husband, her 2 sisters and her cousin went home and left her with me, it was about 8 pm. I took her back to my room in Parque Botero and banged her tight vagina in doggy style until I had a enough, for a really good low rate and she told me that she hadn't had a date all day that's why the husband was not against her having a date, the entire family hadn't eaten all day. Guess it was my lucky day.

Now, I have a bone to pick with Surfer500, LOL, kinda in a funny way, being professional Centro Rats, I accidentally fell into a situation while on my weekend hunt in which, I was at a certain location in Centro and low and behold, I was at a place where all of the girls where located at and after I banged one, she must have left and told another so she knocked on my door and asked me if I wanted a date and dammit man she was hot as hell for 35 mil, so I told her to come on in, after I knocked her off, I dosed off for about 30 minutes and then I heard a knock at the door and Gee Whiz, it was another hot chic, asking me if I wanted a date with her and I asked her how much she wanted and she said, $30 mil, so I banged her as well. I relaxed a little bit and sure enough about 45 minutes later another chic knocked on the door and she asked if I wanted a date and sure enough I banged her too, then a preggo showed up and I banged her too. I feel like Surfer500 has had this little Gem hidden from me, LOL. I had no idea that these kinds of locations could be found in Centro.

I can honestly say that the scene in Parque Botero has changed completely, many of the beautiful girls that were usually around are now pregnant. Me and PunkedLife witness a deranged man damn near stab a female in the park right in front of us. The overall look of the park and the prices show that the situation is damn near desperate, the girls working in the park are much more dangerous and far more brave and willing to play games and attempt to take advantage of Gringos. Allow me to give a great example.

I was in the park on Sunday, and a chic that I had stopped dating brought the tourist police up to me and told them that I had photos on my phone of her and her underage daughter. I was kind of expecting this chic to pull some BS because I would not give her any dates after she screwed me over back in August. I was already upset with the new policy at Hotel Botero, not allowing any Vennies in the building, so when the cops walked up to me and asked me for my passport I gave it to them, but everyone in the park could see that I was truly livid and at my last wits. I told them that I was tired of the woman following me and secretly taking photos of me and other girls who I dated and then threatening them to give her money or she would beat them up as the woman was well over 6 foot tall. I told the police that if it was money that they wanted, tell me an amount, but I wanted this woman to stop f*$king with me every time I arrive in Medellin. I went on to tell the police that I am an American, I do not come to Colombia to have my rights restricted or to receive less human rights than I receive In America. At all times you will treat me as an American and you will respect my rights or we can call your chief and we can go to the embassy and we can resolve the matter there. The asked me several times to calm down and I told them no, I will not lower my voice, I will not calm down, because I am fed up and clearly you think that you can fleece and scare Americans in this park, but you will not scare me or take anything from me today without me raising hell. We finally calmed down, they took me and her to the little green tent and told her to her face after looking through my phone that she was not allowed back in the park for any reason, unless I gave consent for her to be allowed back in the park, guess what? She can wait on that!

Then here is the issue on underage girls in the park, many of you can just type and type and type and type. The girls in the park are of age, if they are not, the cops will run them out of the park, just ask PunkedLife, he can tell you, many of the Hotels, even the short term hotels are cracking down on the Vennies and making it extremely hard for them to find places to date, to eat, or to reside. After my last visit, I have no sympathy for any of the Vennies, the overall behavior of these one's in the park is straight savage and survival mode. If you can tolerate the savagery of the park and the games that the Vennies play, then it's a great place to be, if not then Facebook, Casa's, Stip clubs, Parque LLeras and other options are available. I can honestly tell you, I banged 16 chic for under $700 mil pesos, and that is a first. So now I know where I will be spending my weekends, In a certain location near Parque Botero where all the girls go to hang out. On another note, every girl that I banged at this certain location, I had to pay $10 mil pesos for them entering into my room, so it's like a win win for the location, but worth every $10 mil that I spent.

If you are not really traveling to Medellin, or actually staying in Medellin, at least have the courtesy to no confuse other mongers who rely on this board for up to date information. It is clear that many of the one posting are not in Medellin or have not been to Medellin recently or do not hang in Centro like a few of us do. I sat in the park most of Saturday and Sunday when I wasn't banging chics and clearly if no one else is posting about how poor the girls are looking in Centro, then you have not been to centro recently. The quality of Vennies has dropped dramatically. But to each their own, Pollo Negro is out!

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Step 2 is avoid making a spectacle at any time with any woman.

Step 3 is make deals that the providers agree to in advance and then honor those deals.

An optional 4th step to mitigate risk is to have your sessions at a location where security checks IDs for you.

It isn't any more complicated than that.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2418935]This is my biggest concern mongering in Medellin. I searched for the story on "Colombia Jake" in the forum, but I couldn't find anything. More experienced mongers, please advise on the best way to avoid getting into trouble when all the girls are using fake IDs. As far as I can think of, entrapment is the only way for a monger to get caught. It is almost impossible for cops to randomly show up in your apartment while you are having sex with a girl who is using a fake ID. What happens to the girls if they get caught selling sex while using a fake ID?[/QUOTE][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]: [/b] [blue]This report was edited or deleted because it appeared to be a public effort to [u]discourage members from posting information[/u]. If you have a concern about information posted by another member, then please contact them privately by PM. Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines for further information.[/blue]

[QUOTE=Villainy;2419101]I want to amplify something JjBee62 said, because I think there is some benefit to the community. Many of the guys who visit are absolutely focused on the 18-21 why / o girl. Why is that? We think those girls are the most attractive, have the least mileage, and so on. Is it true? Maybe, but maybe not.

I think you have to ask yourself what do you enjoy the most in sexual terms? Is it the youthful appearance of the girl? Her performance of various activities? Her general demeanor and attitude?

What excites you the most? What turns you off?

Would you rather see that 19 why / o that is f'ing gorgeous, even if she does't want to kiss you, wants to cover you for oral, and once you've enjoyed yourself, she will race you to the shower with a starting speed that would make Usain Bolt jealous. Is that what you want? It's available and in big numbers..[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your opinion. I appreciate it. I would love to bang the older chick you are describing, except I don't like girls who doesn't drink and use drugs. My counter point is this, wouldn't it be better to find an 18 year old who is just as hot, as fit, as patient and as willing as the 30+ year old you are describing? If all attributes match (including personality), in my opinion their skin is tighter, they have more youthful energy, and given the way some people like to party (especially in my case) an older girl simply can't keep up.

Went for a little under a week in late Jan. Some random notes and observations for those interested in my musings.

Cash withdrawls via ATMs is the undisputed way to go. Got an average exchange rate of 3330 over the 5 days there, and that was always pretty darn close to the mastercard daily rate. My ATM card charges no forex fee and davivienda has no ATM fee. Always decline their ATM offered rate, which mostly offered around 3130.

Tunnel saves some time. In the wee hours of the morning while returning to the airport, we went from my poblado Airbnb to the airport in 21 minutes flat.

Facebook chicas continue to be flaky. And most just want to be there 45 minutes get you to nut and be gone and that is essentially what they think 150 gets you. It takes a lot of effort and maybe a multi trip timeline and some language skills to change that scenario. Atleast that is my guess on what others are saying. I also don't do drugs, or speak fluent Spanish, decently fit but mid 40s, so maybe that all works against me. Also more were insisting on 200 plus taxi than I remember from last year. Finally if you tried to negotiate 2 hrs and 2 shots (polvos in slang, a new word I learnt, haha) then they talk ridiculous rates like 300, and will come down to 200-250 plus taxi. I let a couple of hot ones go for that reason. Whatever, my take away was if you are just trying them out for chemistry etc, then just go with a 1 HR plan and see, because many of them may not be worth another go anyway. Its madness to consider TLN on a first cita. Case closed, end of discussion. Atleast you know some things about them after the first round. Since few on this board exchange experiences with Fb chicas, trial and error is the only way, and they will make money off of us on that, thats just the way it is my friends.

I ended up reverting to a couple of my old reliables and that saved my time. Do not get fixated on any one or two chicas. One in particular wasted my time with missed appointment and had all sorts of excuses, and though I did see her once, the session was meh. Her pics look like 9, she is a 7.5 and her performace was 7, but the energy and time I wasted in pursuit made her a 6. A disappointment generated by building my expectations up. I might still session with her in the future, but I ain't giving her no priority.

Quite a few of FB chicas do drugs (I do not), and that can affect their attitude toward you based on when they see you etc. Interestingly my best time was morning 10 am to get them over, no rush, we are both fresh and I still have the rest of the day after noon for a casa run if I want or fine dining or whatever else I want to do.

Many of them from the barrios esp. have pimps / boyfriends / husbands / brothers whatever, and sometimes they may even drop them and wait nearby, hence partly the rush to get out. Thats also a little risky as you never know when they get involved and what scheme they concoct. One particular time, I arrived after the chica came to the building as there was a lot of traffic due to protests that day(yepp intermittently still going on). The chica was waiting in the car with them, and asked me to pay them the agreed taxi fare, that was quite awkward, who was I paying?, which of those titles above, worse yet there were two dudes in the car, then after we went upstairs, she was quite good looking easy an 8. 5/10, but then the restrictions started one by one, only outside kissing, cbj, only light penetration, and so she would't let me do much, then a slight odor, and so we decided to shower, ***** gets out and unwraps all 3 fresh towels, to which I responded by asking her to put one back for me, she gets all upset and about 20-30 minutes in, she wanted to abort the session and insisted on being paid. It was shit awkward all around with language barrier and the disagreement, and with two barrio dudes downstairs. She did all the usual threats and crap. I refused and said I would pay her 50, She then came down to a half session rate, and would not budge, I decided to cut my losses and move on. She then had the audacity to stand at the door and offer to reccomend me other chicas I might like, I nudged he out the door and shut the door behind her. Bad experience.

Casas in laureles were decent. I had good reccomendations from normal asain kid whom I met for lunch on my first day. Those were a couple of good sessions. Went into fantasias energy Tuesday around 2-3 pm and lineup was 10-12 like last time, maybe the better girls were busy, but the lineup was pitiful, lots of cellulite and scars and silicone. There was one mullata that was doable but that was it. Saw nothing I wanted to part with 170k over and unlike during my last trip, I decided to walk out. While waiting there I did see a gringo, looked like close to 70 sitting around waiting, and eventually a solid 8. 5-9 chick came out, greeted him and left with him, obviously some out of casa arrangement. Mamasan asked me to return Friday, so maybe others can go Friday and report back. Sounded like something (maybe selection) may be better Friday. Glad I left, because the apartment casa I went to after was much better, lower price, BBBJ and 2 releases, from a solid 7. 5-8 chica.

I did not go down town this time, as I saw what I needed to last time and decided although the gems do exist, the hunt was not for me. Normal asian kid told me he got the best service from vennies, and I believe him. I did not partake in the mileroticos vennies who can be had for 60k and might upsell to 100k but will treat you well, but I probably should have. Like I said once I got with my old reliables, they kept me happy and got a decent payday, and after all the games and runaround first couple of days, I was not in the mood for dealing with any more crap. Time is a serious commodity for those on short trips. Sometimes you just want a reliable chica under your arm and spend a couple of days that way.

Went to fase dos, note to all, I got there at 9 pm, but it opens at 10 pm but really no point going before 11 pm. Spent an hour at the mall as it was closing. Saw a couple stunners at Fase dos. Called one over chatted a bit and bought her a drink which got me 10 mins of convo but I did not partake. Left around midnight. Went to loutron to check it off the bucket list. Great ambiance, great building and views. You sit at a bar restaurant and the chicas come and present themsleves as available. You should pick on the spot if you like one, cuz odds are if there are other punters she will be gone. The quality of girls is clearly higher here, no question. Price is 320k. Problem is in the room, its all very covered and intimacy is limited, pecks, covered BJ, covered penetration and so on, so really only advantage is the hotness of the girl and the ambiance. 390k with the addition being the beers and water, and taxi back was like 15k. Don't think I will go back. My girl alejandra was a veritable 9 and I don't hand those out easy. So if hotness is your thing and money is no object and covered everything is Ok, its the perfect location.

Stayed at both energy and blux part of the time. Both chica friendly and no issues once they have cedula. They verify everything and take a picture which is a big plus. The security guy told me they check the number on some national database(which if accurate is a big benefit for us). The chica who caused me a bunch of wasted time arrived first time without her cedula and they would not take the iphone image version (I liked that). Big drawback esp. For energy building is the traffic on the road, if you are a light sleeper, you have a problem. Energy roof top pool and views are unparalleled.

I know its moot, but taxis are rip off compared to uber. Price difference was literally 1. 5-2 x. Taxis were con artists, faking getting lost, pretending to be ignorant, and in one case at 950 pm from parque lleras, diverting me into convo and within 2 minutes refusing to turn on the meter saying meters aren't used at night and charging me 20 k for a ride that should have been 8 k-10 k at most. Small potatoes in the larger scheme of things but leaves you feeling ripped off.

Went to the casino once on my last day, and won some money on blackjack. And ended up with like 300 k at the airport. Changed it back at the currency exchange and fully expected to get a rip off rate, but got converted back at like 3282. Weird because day earlier I got 3342 pulling put of the ATM. Checked official rate on my phome and it was still 3334. So whatever, I made a negligible profit going back and forth. LOL.

Tried out a couple of upscale dining options this time and enjoyed the food. Highly reccomended.

Never a dull trip to MDE and will return at some point. Its a great mongering city. Might try Cartagena or some other South american city next time however.

Thank you very much for this enjoyable report. If you don't mind, would you please share the details of the good restaurants you visited?

I am a bit less than neutral on the facebook scene, mostly because of the waiting around it often involves. When I see so many guys mention how much time the facebook girls spend with them I know it's because the girls are doing the old routine of as little sex as they are allowed to get away with interspersed with small talk, boozing, and smoking cripa. Like any independent provider, I find the facebook girls have to be managed to get a fair bang for the buck. Managed as in getting the provider to agree in advance to what you want or move on to another.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2419234]Went for a little under a week in late Jan. Some random notes and observations for those interested in my musings.

Cash withdrawls via ATMs is the undisputed way to go. Got an average exchange rate of 3330 over the 5 days there, and that was always pretty darn close to the mastercard daily rate. My ATM card charges no forex fee and davivienda has no ATM fee. Always decline their ATM offered rate, which mostly offered around 3130.

Tunnel saves some time. In the wee hours of the morning while returning to the airport, we went from my poblado Airbnb to the airport in 21 minutes flat.

Facebook chicas continue to be flaky. And most just want to be there 45 minutes get you to nut and be gone and that is essentially what they think 150 gets you. It takes a lot of effort and maybe a multi trip timeline and some language skills to change that scenario. Atleast that is my guess on what others are saying. I also don't do drugs, or speak fluent Spanish, decently fit but mid 40s, so maybe that all works against me. Also more were insisting on 200 plus taxi than I remember from last year. Finally if you tried to negotiate 2 hrs and 2 shots (polvos in slang, a new word I learnt, haha) then they talk ridiculous rates like 300, and will come down to 200-250 plus taxi. I let a couple of hot ones go for that reason. Whatever, my take away was if you are just trying them out for chemistry etc, then just go with a 1 HR plan and see, because many of them may not be worth another go anyway. Its madness to consider TLN on a first cita. Case closed, end of discussion.d I still have the rest of the day after noon for a casa run if I want or fine dining or whatever else I want to do..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SJobs;2418944] I believe that's why 18-21-year-olds are so desirable to many of us. [/QUOTE]The problem with your approach is that you care more about on what's on the ID than the girl herself.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2419234]Went for a little under a week in late Jan. Some random notes and observations for those interested in my musings.

Cash withdrawls via ATMs is the undisputed way to go. Got an average exchange rate of 3330 over the 5 days there, and that was always pretty darn close to the mastercard daily rate. My ATM card charges no forex fee and davivienda has no ATM fee. Always decline their ATM offered rate, which mostly offered around 3130.

Tunnel saves some time. In the wee hours of the morning while returning to the airport, we went from my poblado Airbnb to the airport in 21 minutes flat.

Facebook chicas continue to be flaky. And most just want to be there 45 minutes get you to nut and be gone and that is essentially what they think 150 gets you. It takes a lot of effort and maybe a multi trip timeline and some language skills to change that scenario. Atleast that is my guess on what others are saying. I also don't do drugs, or speak fluent Spanish, decently fit but mid 40s, so maybe that all works against me. Also more were insisting on 200 plus taxi than I remember from last year. Finally if you tried to negotiate 2 hrs and 2 shots (polvos in slang, a new word I learnt, haha) then they talk ridiculous rates like 300, and will come down to 200-250 plus taxi. I let a couple of hot ones go for that reason. Whatever, my take away was if you are just trying them out for chemistry etc, then just go with a 1 HR plan and see, because many of them may not be worth another go anyway. Its madness to consider TLN on a first cita. Case closed, end of discussion. Atleast you know some things about them after the first round. Since few on this board exchange experiences with Fb chicas, trial and error is the only way, and they will make money off of us on that, thats just the way it is my friends.

I ended up reverting to a couple of my old reliables and that saved my time. Do not get fixated on any one or two chicas. One in particular wasted my time with missed appointment and had all sorts of excuses, and though I did see her once, the session was meh. Her pics look like 9, she is a 7.5 and her performace was 7, but the energy and time I wasted in pursuit made her a 6. A disappointment generated by building my expectations up. I might still session with her in the future, but I ain't giving her no priority.

Quite a few of FB chicas do drugs (I do not), and that can affect their attitude toward you based on when they see you etc. Interestingly my best time was morning 10 am to get them over, no rush, we are both fresh and I still have the rest of the day after noon for a casa run if I want or fine dining or whatever else I want to do...[/QUOTE]Almost sounds like the highlight of your trip was winning at Blackjack.

Interesting that a taxi cab driver pulled that shit on you. Next time that occurs tell the fucker to stop and get out of the taxi and if possible get his vehicle ID number and report the fucker. The cab companies frown on that kind of shit, and I believe they will take notice. Nothing will happen to the driver but he will be called by the company and that should deter him from trying to pull that shit again. My experience with the cabs here as been very positive, however I had one cab tell my I had to pay double what the meter said as I had bought a lot of stuff which filled up the trunk and back seat. This happened with a cab I took from Homecenter one day. After this happened I went to the manager of the store and told them there was a cab driver that was hustling gringos and they contacted the company. I subsequently saw him one day in the taxi line at Homecenter and he was chatting with the other drivers waiting for fares and I came up to him and told him to his face he was a thief. He got all angry and the other drivers were wondering what was up. So that was the payback he got from me, with him explaining to the other drivers why this gringo was calling him a thief. Or it was probably the other way around, with the other drivers wanting to know who was this fucking asshole gringo yelling at a taxi driver like that. Regardless, I unloaded on him, and felt much better regardless of what other's might think.

What happened with you at Parque LLeras is not surprising as I know other drivers will pull that stunt with the gringos to make a few extra bucks, but it is more the exception than the rule, and with it being Lleras and tourists not knowing any better some drivers will exploit the situation. Other than that one experience I had, and I have used the taxis here hundreds of times, and I have found the drivers to be very respectful and professional.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2418944]Evolution will invariably force us to favor the younger look and healthy body, I believe that's why 18-21-year-olds are so desirable to many of us.


Having the desire to ensure the survival of a pregnant girl is unquestionably a desirable feature that evolution will preserve; this is why sending the woman who is carrying one's child to work on a dangerous street produces a deep sense of guilty feeling..[/QUOTE]I have one 21 year old in my stable, and all the rest are around 30 years old. Yes there can be a lot less wear and tear on the younger ones, but in my sole opinion I find the older ones much better performers. Don't get me wrong here, there's nothing like a tight wet silky pussy that hasn't been loosened up and gone thru a bunch of wear and tear, however I find the older ones to be more in their prime and better performers than their younger siblings.

In regards to someone sending their pregnant girlfriend out to work on a dangerous street. Well a couple of things, nobody here doing that is going to feel guilty as they are just trying to survive, they perhaps may be ashamed if that was what you were referring to, but nothing more, again there only doing this to survive.

In regards to it being dangerous for them to work the streets or lets say El Centro, I don't think so, at least not so much for them as this is their turf, and they know the ins and outs of how things can go down where they are working. A perfect example of this would be a guy going with a pregnant Chica that he pulled from "Little Caracas" formerly known as "Ground Zero" located at the Intersection of Carrea 52 and Calle 52. He enters with the Chica into a Hotel nearby, say the Premium Plaza or Zona Rosa. The hotel attendants notice the girl is pregnant, big deal, they go in the room. So if the guy is a wack job, the Chica can start screaming and the attendants will immediately be at the door. So I'm not sure what your alluding to as being dangerous for them other than a customer being a wack job, or potentially getting some type of STD which can happen to anyone, so it would be fair to say the streets are dangerous to all of us including the clients and the Chicas, and they are.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2419234]Went for a little under a week in late Jan. Some random notes and observations for those interested in my musings. ... I know its moot, but taxis are rip off compared to uber. Price difference was literally 1. 5-2 x. Taxis were con artists, faking getting lost, pretending to be ignorant, and in one case at 950 pm from parque lleras, diverting me into convo and within 2 minutes refusing to turn on the meter saying meters aren't used at night and charging me 20 k for a ride that should have been 8 k-10 k at most. Small potatoes in the larger scheme of things but leaves you feeling ripped off.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for your very thorough report. Lots of good information. I have found that flagging down a taxi around Parque Lleras is a crap shoot, some real rip offs. I use the Cabify app and have always, except once, gotten honest operators. Their fares are close to what Uber's were, sometimes lower. Uber is no longer available in Colombia. Their app says Adios Colombia.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2419204]I was in Medellin from Saturday Jan 25th until Monday the 27th. Clearly there must be 2 centro's or 2 ground zero's because, clearly ground zero is Calle 52 and Carrera 52. Now, this is the infamous pole that all of the vennies use to hang around, but not many vennies can hang around the pole anymore, because many of you board members have impregnated all of the Vennies who use to hang around the pole. I kid you not; I counted over 17 pregnant girls in Centro on my arrival.

The infamous pole was designated for all of the pretty 18-20 yr old Vennies, but I can assure you that many of you Gringos have impregnated these honeys. I absolutely laughed about the entire situation and capitalized on the entire event. I banged 9 chicas on Saturday and 6 on Sunday and I did not have to move an inch. Many of the impregnated chicas that wouldn't give me a second look in August and September were begging me for a no holds barred cita with them on this trip. I thought that was seriously funny. I have an answer for SJobs, on post as well, one of the pregnant chicas was walking with her husband and she spoke to me, I politely spoke back and gave her a hug, then I asked her was she working and she said yes. The husband, her 2 sisters and her cousin went home and left her with me, it was about 8 pm. I took her back to my room in Parque Botero and banged her tight vagina in doggy style until I had a enough, for a really good low rate and she told me that she hadn't had a date all day that's why the husband was not against her having a date, the entire family hadn't eaten all day. Guess it was my lucky day..[/QUOTE]PN, from your lips to gods ears, splendid comments and observations.

Man you had a quick visit. The past three or four days I have spent considerable time in and around plaza Botero and yes it has changed dramatically just int he past 2 or so years.

And the pregnant chica looks delicious! Send me her whatsapp if you got it, pleaseeeee!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2415687]You can take the airport bus to San Diego mall stop, then take a taxi to Laureles. When you return to airport, do the reverse but have the driver take you to the San Diego terminal, not the stop. They are just a short distance apart.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Thank you. Thank you brother. I came in from Barranquilla and hopped on the bus to San Diego at 10:26. With that new tunnel it was fast as shit. At 10:55 arrived in San Diego. Paid my 10,500 pesos as I got off the bus. Crosschecked the price to San Peter on Easy Taxi so I would know how much to bid on Indriver. 7,150 pesos and dude would arrive in 3 minutes. I was at San Peter before 11:15. No fuss, no muss.

Easy Taxi was showing from 64k to 96k from the airport to Laureles. I think it is common knowledge to be 80k. I could not even get the Indriver app to work at the airport in order to crosscheck the price.

Since I can not check in to San Peter until 3pm, I left my suitcase with the lady at the desk and headed over to my buddy's apartment in Prado Centro. He pays US$250/month for this place. 3BR 2BA. He said the utilities are in his name except for the cable. You need a cedula for the cable because they do a credit check. He found someone with good credit and gave them 150K to put it in their name. I told him that I was looking at some places in Barranquilla where one of my chicks rent for 800,000 pesos/month. He said well you get one there and we can share both places. So that is an idea.

I also tried to use the Scotia Colpatria ATM upstairs before leaving the airport. It would not give me money. The Davivienda machine was broken. I ended up using the Banco Popular machine that let me take out 1 million. It said there was a 13,200 charge. $297 out of my bank. 1,013,200/297= an exchange of 3411.44. XE is showing 3419.91 right now.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2419148]I don't know why guys bother paying for these girls you take out on dates. Take the ***** out for ice cream and a walk LOL. These girls want equal pay and equal rights so they can pay for their equal share of the bill. FOH. Shit at the very least we can alternate buying rounds. After 3 or 4 rounds if her ass ain't trying to go back to your spot or take you back to hers then you're just wasting your time. Fuck I look like entertaining a ***** all night. Charge these girls to the game and move on to the next.[/QUOTE]I don't know why guys pick girls who are fatter than the ones I like. I don't know why guys pick girls thinner than what I like. I don't know why guys insist on anal with the girls. I don't know why guys do TLN or 20 minute quickies. I don't know why everyone doesn't do everything exactly the same way as I.

I also don't care. It's their dick, their money and their business. If a guy wants to fly a girl away to San Andres for the weekend, that's his problem. If some guy wants to give a girl an iPhone 11 or a 3 ct diamond ring, it's his money, he doesn't need my permission.

If some guy just wants the girls in El Centro, or the girls at La Isla. Who am I to tell him he's doing it wrong?

Myself, I feel no need to call a girl, * If she's acting like una perra, I'll let her know, but I'm not calling her una perra just because she's willing to fuck me for money. I have no need to degrade her just because some woman in the US gets paid more than I do, especially when that girl in Colombia is probably trying to raise a kid on less than $300 per month.

I don't bow and scrape and kiss the girls asses. I just treat them like human beings. Turns out, many of them appreciate that.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2419359]Thanks for your very thorough report. Lots of good information. I have found that flagging down a taxi around Parque Lleras is a crap shoot, some real rip offs. I use the Cabify app and have always, except once, gotten honest operators. Their fares are close to what Uber's were, sometimes lower. Uber is no longer available in Colombia. Their app says Adios Colombia.[/QUOTE]Walk down Calle 9 to Avenida Poblado. Pick the front taxi in line in front of Parque Poblado. I've generally had good luck with them.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2419250]Thank you very much for this enjoyable report. If you don't mind, would you please share the details of the good restaurants you visited?[/QUOTE]I know of many good restaurants in El Poblado, specifically the barrios of Manila, La Linde, Castaprol, Provenza, and Patio Bonito. I have yet to find a good Asian place, I tried the one in the Click Clack Hotel which was a rip off and terrible. There is an Asian place opposite the Orange Suites Hotel in Astorga which is okay, much better than the Click Clack and about half the price. Good seafood in Medellin, forget it, go to either Santa Marta or Cartagena for that. There are no good Thai restaurants, the one by Parque LLeras sucks, don't go there. Mexican food is a challenge, lots of places put pineapple on their tacos, and their interpretation of Mexican food doesn't make sense. One place on the same street as Carmens named Mal Siento Mesa of all things had Chilli Relleno on the menu, yet the ingredients did not include chili, egg, or cheese. It had meat and apples whatever they thought it was. The best Mexican place I have found is Chiliquales in Manila. They have homemade tortillas, homemade black beans, dishes from Oaxca including moles, Cochinta Pubil, Carnitas, which is to die for, and great guacamole.

Anyone else having issues using Didi? Since I've started using it my cards are selective on when they want to accept the payment. Now I can't even use the app and just use cash because I haven't paid for my last trip because the app isn't letting anything through. Already called the banks I use and got everything cleared with them. On another note what are the other ones available? I remember someone mentioning one the girls use. I'll use taxis for the time being though.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2419378]I don't know why guys pick girls who are fatter than the ones I like. I don't know why guys pick girls thinner than what I like. I don't know why guys insist on anal with the girls. I don't know why guys do TLN or 20 minute quickies. I don't know why everyone doesn't do everything exactly the same way as I.

I also don't care. It's their dick, their money and their business. If a guy wants to fly a girl away to San Andres for the weekend, that's his problem. If some guy wants to give a girl an iPhone 11 or a 3 ct diamond ring, it's his money, he doesn't need my permission.

If some guy just wants the girls in El Centro, or the girls at La Isla. Who am I to tell him he's doing it wrong?

Myself, I feel no need to call a girl, * If she's acting like una perra, I'll let her know, but I'm not calling her una perra just because she's willing to fuck me for money. I have no need to degrade her just because some woman in the US gets paid more than I do, especially when that girl in Colombia is probably trying to raise a kid on less than $300 per month.

I don't bow and scrape and kiss the girls asses. I just treat them like human beings. Turns out, many of them appreciate that.[/QUOTE]Yah yah every guy has the right do what he wants. I was just giving my opinion. My point was buying drinks for a girl all night don't guarantee you any pussy back in the states. If a ***** wants to fuck you she will. Period. Point is guys need to stop the Simping. Ya'll can take those words how ya'll want. And this applies to bitches that got they shit together. Doesn't apply to any woman here in Colombia unless your fucking for free. At the end of the day she only with you for the pesos. Don't matter how good she treats you she don't give a fuck if you die the next day as long as she got paid. So although I won't disrespect any girl here unless she deserves it at the same time all her acts are fucking false. I ain't come here for a fake ass novia. I came to beat in some guts and get my money's worth. Ya'll do you and I'll continue to do me.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2419378] I don't bow and scrape and kiss the girls asses. I just treat them like human beings. Turns out, many of them appreciate that.[/QUOTE]That's been my experience as well. We eat, hang out, have sex, repeat, a little conversation. I find after 2-3 times together, they open up, relax, we both feel safer and the experience / sex becomes infinitely better. They do appreciate it and it shows. There's a spectrum from being an asshole all the way to groveling. Both are unattractive and they will want to leave as soon as possible. Treat them like a friend you have sex with, and they're happy to hang around for more time and more rounds.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2419378]I don't know why guys pick girls who are fatter than the ones I like. I don't know why guys pick girls thinner than what I like. I don't know why guys insist on anal with the girls. I don't know why guys do TLN or 20 minute quickies. I don't know why everyone doesn't do everything exactly the same way as I.

I also don't care. It's their dick, their money and their business. If a guy wants to fly a girl away to San Andres for the weekend, that's his problem. If some guy wants to give a girl an iPhone 11 or a 3 ct diamond ring, it's his money, he doesn't need my permission.

If some guy just wants the girls in El Centro, or the girls at La Isla. Who am I to tell him he's doing it wrong?

Myself, I feel no need to call a girl, * If she's acting like una perra, I'll let her know, but I'm not calling her una perra just because she's willing to fuck me for money. I have no need to degrade her just because some woman in the US gets paid more than I do, especially when that girl in Colombia is probably trying to raise a kid on less than $300 per month.

I don't bow and scrape and kiss the girls asses. I just treat them like human beings. Turns out, many of them appreciate that.[/QUOTE]I agree with everything you said. I cannot think of a better experience than when you treat the women with respect, I mean some of the women would even want to spend more time with you without pay if you just treat them nicely. We often forget that they should be treated with respect and that no matter what we should not be judging them.

Right after I finished my last report, a Cupid chick showed up. I went downstairs to get her. The pics that she sent me must have been 80 pounds ago. But I will never look a free horse in the mouth. She said she thought I was lying about coming because that is what guys on the site do.

As we were coming in, my buddy was going out. He traded me the apartment key for the ring that I had that has the key for the downstairs door as well. So we have been locked in the building for the last 2 hours. Good thing is that she was all ready to fuck within 10 minutes of arriving. Now just waiting for my boy to get back so I can go check in San Peter and get some food. I tell people it is just like Rio used to be, you are subject to be in some pussy before you have even had a chance to eat. I have not had a chance to eat nor check in to the hotel and I am already 1 nut into the game.

For you taxi money guys: My girl arrived here on the back of a motorbike. I asked her how far she lives and she said 20 minutes. I asked her how much the motorbike ride cost and she said 5,000 pesos.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2418935]This is my biggest concern mongering in Medellin. I searched for the story on "Colombia Jake" in the forum, but I couldn't find anything. More experienced mongers, please advise on the best way to avoid getting into trouble when all the girls are using fake IDs. As far as I can think of, entrapment is the only way for a monger to get caught. It is almost impossible for cops to randomly show up in your apartment while you are having sex with a girl who is using a fake ID. What happens to the girls if they get caught selling sex while using a fake ID?[/QUOTE]Just stay at a place with security that checks ID-then its on the front desk security not you. They verified the ID they are used to--you can't be expected to be held responsible if the front desk security checked the ID and sent her up. That's what you are paying to be at that hotel for!. Hotel / apartment security is the way to go. Also, have the security call you and check on you if she leaves the room alone. And let the girl know that's how it works. This isn't that complicated.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2419365]PN, from your lips to gods ears, splendid comments and observations.

Man you had a quick visit. The past three or four days I have spent considerable time in and around plaza Botero and yes it has changed dramatically just int he past 2 or so years.

And the pregnant chica looks delicious! Send me her whatsapp if you got it, pleaseeeee!

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]It's unbelievable as you have noticed how things have changed in El Centro over the past months, specifically at the location of the street sign located at Carrea 52 and Calle 52 which I now refer to as "Little Caracas" which I used to refer to as "Ground Zero". There's so many Venezuelans, and with so many of them being impregnated who are now working the streets, the next thing you will know this information will get around the world that Medellin is the place to find pregnant women to bang, and there will be plane loads of "Pregnant Chica Aficionados" showing up, and apparently we have quite a few here already that are coming out of the closet.

Do you really think it would be "on" a poor hotel receptionist and not you the foreigner breaking a very serious law?

I agree with another poster the best policy is if questionable. Pass. In my opinion, of course they can bust guys doing this.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2419418]Just stay at a place with security that checks ID-then its on the front desk security not you. They verified the ID they are used to--you can't be expected to be held responsible if the front desk security checked the ID and sent her up. That's what you are paying to be at that hotel for![/QUOTE]

What do you guys stock up on to ensure the ladies have a good time and don't want to leave?

So far I'm thinking of having Ron, Coca Cola, tussi, éxtasis. What else do you guys recommenced? Food and drink wise, what do the ladies like?

I arrived on Friday and left on Sunday, so it was a quick weekend trip. But I think I've fallen in love with Medellin already. The venues I used to find girls were La Isla, Loutron, and Seeking Arrangements. Read on if that is of interest to you.

Some background. I am a relatively young (30 yo) South Asian gentleman from the US. I speak un poco Spanish, having studied it in high school for 4 years. I would say that at this point, I'm losing my newbie status at mongering (but still making newbie mistakes haha). I've been to Thailand 5 times and Tijuana twice. Some may derisively label me as a "one week millionaire" - I'm not a millionaire by any means but my chief constraint for these type of trips is never cash, but time. PTO is hard to come by in the US, which means that I am trying to maximize my experiences in the limited amount of time available. I am more than willing to pay more for higher quality, both looks and service wise.

I booked the Friday morning Spirit flight from Fort Lauderdale to Medellin. No one would mistake Spirit for luxury travel, but it got the job done (aka it fit my schedule and my budget). 3. 5 hours and a relatively quiet flight. I got my first sight of Medellin as we descended, and I was blown away by how beautiful the verdant mountainous terrain was.

The one thing I really should have done better was planned my phone situation better before arriving. My company usually pays for international data, but apparently the policy had changed sometime last month and I didn't know. So I landed and found out that my phone just did not work without WiFi. I kicked myself for not bringing my unlocked phone from home. Long story short, I actually had to buy a new phone in the Santa Fe mall for about $40 and use that as a WiFi hotspot for my other phone. A real inconvenience, but I was not about to let $40 set me back.

I took an Uber to my hotel (about 50 k COP). I stayed at the Hotel Torre Poblado which is a few blocks from Parque Lleras in Poblado. For the one bedroom suite, I paid $70 per night in Chase Ultimate Rewards points (one of the many perks of travelling for work is racking up points and miles). It was a perfectly serviceable, bordering on nice, hotel. It was not seedy, which I liked. Clean, professional staff, friendly. Two knocks against it. The bathroom was not great. Small, water leaking from the stall, hot water shut off halfway through, fixtures were shabby. And second and more importantly. The WiFi was pretty terrible in the bedroom. It is girl-friendly as far as I can tell. All in all, pretty nice place, can recommend for a solid (but not exceptional) stay. The price point and location are pretty hard to beat though.

I had arranged to meet with my SA chick in the afternoon but I was sorting out my phone problems for the better part of three hours. I told her to instead hold off until Saturday evening and she agreed. I was not of, course, content to stay in for the night. I had La Isla on my the mind.

From what I can read on this forum (and from what the taxi drivers all told me) there are two top strip clubs in Medellin. Fase Dos and La Isla. Of the two La Isla is supposed to have hotter girls, is bigger, and has a more "exclusive" feel due to it's being tucked away high in the mountains. As I said before, I will pay for quality, so La Isla it was.

For the record, I think in the 21st century it should not be hard for a club to market themselves. Yet I had to trawl the web for over an hour to find La Isla on google maps and facebook. There was a vague consensus that it was located somewhere on Via Las Palmas, but each different map service took me to very different areas of the city. Thanks to the help of a map posted in this forum, I was able to triangulate its location. For future reference for newbies, instead of searching for "La Isla" in google, search for "Mirador de las Palmas" - there is not ambiguity about that location, and the nightclub is right next to it. End rant.

So I headed over to La Isla at about 9:30 pm, which I learned was way too early. I was just the second patron at the establishment so it was pretty dead for a while. I would not recommend anyone get here before 11 pm on Fridays, and I assume Saturdays would be similar as well. La Isla is a very expansive club, lounge sofas all around a large central stage with a pole. Girls dance around for a while and when they are done they come around to every single person to ask for a tip. It's generally expected that you tip them at least 2 k COP. It's less than a dollar so don't be a cheap charlie. Beers are about 15 k COP I think, not sure. Lady drinks / fichas are 25 k+, of which the girl gets 10 k. You can of course take a girl to the attached rooms. Room included, standard service is 300 k COP for an hour.

Now for the girls. At its peak there were maybe a few dozen of them. Before I give yall my ratings, keep in mind my tastes. Young, short, slim, natural, and light skinned. Unfortunately, there were not tons of girls that fit this phenotype. Many were tall, full-bodied, big asses, and clearly enhanced. In my opinion, I would say it's 30% <= 6, 60% 7, 5% 8, 5% = 9. For another reference point, I was say the Hong Kong club in Tijuana is 50% <= 6, 30% 7, 10% 8, 10% = 9. And most gogo bars in Thailand I go to would be 70% <= 6, 20% 7, 5% 8, 5% = 9. So in comparison to them, La Isla has a much higher floor. Relatively few fuglies that I wouldn't fuck for free. In contrast, most of the girls in Thai gogo bars are pure filler that I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. But La Isla also had fewer girls that checked all my boxes compared to HK.

Visitors to HK or Thailand will also note how low pressure La Isla is. No one was really pressuring me for drinks, the girls were willing to sit with me for a while before even asking for a drink, and they would sometimes stick around for a bit after finishing theirs.

Over the course of three hours, I probably bought drinks for a half dozen girls. I had my eye on a bombshell blonde Ivanka Trump look alike. I was shocked that she hadn't been taken out yet. I called her down and I realized why. She was a total ice queen. Left a gap between me and her, moved my hands off her, and when asked she refused BJs and besos. Quickly finished her drink and I threw her back into the sea.

I could've gone with a number girls that were "good enough" but I wanted to wait until I found the one. And I'm glad I did, because I met Lucy, a late 20's thin morena with a nice smile and a nice attitude. All natural, tight figure, cuppable breasts, and proportionate ass, etc. We chatted for a bit, and we had some chemistry, so I decided to take her arriba. For 300 k she promised BJ and besos, BB was not offered nor asked for.

The rooms in La Isla were quite functional. Better than most ST rooms in Thailand, about equivalent to Hotel Cascadas but maybe a bit cleaner. My chica offered me a hit of her blunt and I partook. We showered and then got down to business. Good CBJ, eye contact, and passionate. She got on top, and showered me with DFK which was muy rico. She rode me for a while, tried doggy for a few moments, but I finished in missionary (I'm such a romantic LOL). She gave me her Whatsapp, so I may see her again at some point. As we were chatting afterwards, she asked what I was doing the next day. I said I was spending time with a girl I met online. She warned me to be careful with Paisa chicas LOL. She didn't elaborate but I assume it's probably something to do with drugs, robbing, etc. Regardless it stuck with me. With that, I headed back to my room and that marked the end of a fruitful Day 1 in Medellin.

I had two objectives for Day 2, Saturday. Meeting my SA chick that night of course, but in the afternoon I wanted to check out Loutron. I heard good things about this place. I took the long taxi ride up to the beautiful retrofitted Escobar mansion. I reached there at about 2 pm, and again I may have been too early (someone please let me know if there's a better time). The manager chick there explained the pricing (generally 300 k for standard FS). I was seated with a beer, and she called in the chicas one by one. I got to say, I was not impressed. There were none that fit my preferred petite profile. Many of the women appeared quite old. There was one girl Paolina that was approaching my taste, but for $100 I was not willing. I asked the manager if there would be a larger selection later on in the day, and she said not really. IDK if that was just her trying to get me to bite, but regardless I took that as my queue to leave empty handed.

Now for my date with my SA chick. Long story short, it was amazing. I will keep her identity hidden, in an to attempt to keep her all to myself LOL. Let's call her Diana. I would recommend SA wholeheartedly for anyone who has time to vet the girls on the website. It's a lot of work, as most girls rarely check the site. And the demographics I was looking for (18 - 21 yo) are pretty flaky in general. Add to that the difficulty of differentiating between the "real" girls and the prepagos. There was one girl who straight up propositioned me for 250 USD. She was hot but the goal of me using SA was to find a non-pro. Diana did respond though, and we moved the conversation to WhatsApp over which we'd been chatting for about a week or so.

Diana is 22, a real universitaria. She isn't conventionally stunning, but goddamn if she was not cute as a button. Relatively tall, thin and pretty. Smart, talkative (which nicely complemented my naturally quiet personality), and aligned with me with values, ideals, priorities, etc. We chatted for close to an hour and a half just during our meet and greet at the Mi Habana bar.

She said it was her first time on SA, and it was obvious that she was a total non-pro. She was hesitant to discuss anything explicit during our meet and greet (maybe her complete lack of English was a roadblock), and she seemed a bit uncomfortable about it. That threw up some red flags. The risk with non-pros like on SA is that they don't know what they want and might go into it expecting platonic arrangements (no sex). More hardened mongers will no doubt pipe up to say that I should have pressed her during the meet and greet, lest I set myself up for a wasted time. Two things though - 1) I was really enjoying my time with Diana, and 2) worst case scenario she would go home after our platonic data and I could pick someone up in Parque Lleras / Gustos.

She wanted to stop by at an ATM to get cash for her taxi home (another red flag). But I refused to wait in her line (and I wanted her to know that I would be paying for things) so I guided her towards a food cart instead. We got some crepes and headed to Luxury club off Parque Lleras. It was packed, and it was what I was expecting. Loud reggaeton with intoxicated young people grinding on each other. Aka exactly my scene haha.

Diana was not dressed for the occasion (read: slutty), and she was clearly out of her element here. She said she had been there for a birthday with a coworker and she enjoyed it, but I could sense she was not very comfortable. While everyone else was getting hammered, she ordered for us a fruity slushy with candy pieces in it haha. We bounced after an hour and headed to my hotel.

There the "drama" if you will started. She was nervous / shy, and did not reciprocate my overt moves. She talked about it was strange that we would move so quickly after knowing each other for just 5 hours. She started asking me about my last girlfriend and how long it had been since I broke up with her. It felt like she was stalling for time, but I indulged her. I didn't make any more overt moves (like going for her breasts or moving towards a kiss) but we were physical. She had taken off her shoes and were laying next to each other more or less. I was ready to call it and basically told her I was going to sleep (trying to get her to leave so I could move on), but she didn't appear to get my hint. She asked if I normally went to sleep with lights on, and I was like whatever turn off the lights then. I was waiting for her bounce, when finally my autistic-ass brain finally caught up to me. I was the one who wasn't getting the message! She could have left a while ago, but instead she is lying next to me in bed with the lights off. No wonder I suck with girls, if it took me this long to pick up the hint.

Anyways, once I realized what was happening, I leaned over and gave her a kiss, this turned into a deep make-out session as if we were teenagers. The clothes start shedding off, and soon I had in my hands Diana's supple, beautiful body. Perfect little breasts that she enjoyed being sucked, a bare picturesque pussy, and of course those her wonderful kissable lips. We tried missionary but she was super tight and to be honest the alcohol had done a number on my dick. We switched to cowgirl which worked magnificently. She rode me til I cum, and then she leaned over to make out as I grew soft inside her.

All this was done bareback, which I am now very much regretting. She didn't seem high mileage so STDs didn't seem like a huge risk. But that's the small head talking. She seemed smart enough to be on birth control / plan be / whatever. But that's the small head talking. So yeah. Not my proudest moment. Also should mention that there was no BJ whatsoever. I barely cared at the moment, but I've got to work on that if I see her again.

Following that we cuddled and she was very sweet and tender. I didn't get much sleep that night, as I usually don't when sharing a bed. But I was content in having this beautiful creature by my side that evening. In the morning she was gathering her stuff to leave and I gave her 350 k for the night, to which she asked "Why are you giving me so much?" I didn't tell her this, but in my mind the experience I had with Diana was worth well more than $102 - indeed, I have spent more for less. Like, $100 will get you a half hour with a girl in HK, I got Diana for the whole night.

Reading over this it sounds a lot like I'm catching feelings already haha. The Pattaya people are fond of throwing out the 3-day rule, wherein you never see the same girl more than 3 times in a row. I've always thought that was pure garbage. If you're into the girl then enjoy yourself. So we'll see how this goes. Maybe this is what Lucy at La Isla was warning me about. Be careful with las Paisas. I've got another trip planned for the middle of February, also another quick weekend jaunt. I'm laying the groundwork for seeing her already, I'm sure I won't have any trouble convincing her to sync-up again.

Anyways, the rest of the trip went by uneventfully. Had a latte at the nearby Toucan Cafe on Sunday morning, and then a very good empanada at a whole in the wall that is popular with locals. Checked out of my hotel, took a 50 k COP Didi ride to the airport, spent some time at the Priority Pass Lounges (they're quite nice, although the food could be a bit more substantial). Back on the Spirit flight to the US, during which I am writing this report. Te veré pronto, Medellin!

[QUOTE=KillaCam11;2419454]What do you guys stock up on to ensure the ladies have a good time and don't want to leave?

So far I'm thinking of having Ron, Coca Cola, tussi, xtasis. What else do you guys recommenced? Food and drink wise, what do the ladies like?[/QUOTE]That's a very good list. I would add corona, weed, chocolate, and offer to order food for them.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2419350]Almost sounds like the highlight of your trip was winning at Blackjack.

Interesting that a taxi cab driver pulled that shit on you. Next time that occurs tell the fucker to stop and get out of the taxi and if possible get his vehicle ID number and report the fucker. The cab companies frown on that kind of shit, and I believe they will take notice. Nothing will happen to the driver but he will be called by the company and that should deter him from trying to pull that shit again. My experience with the cabs here as been very positive, however I had one cab tell my I had to pay double what the meter said as I had bought a lot of stuff which filled up the trunk and back seat. This happened with a cab I took from Homecenter one day. After this happened I went to the manager of the store and told them there was a cab driver that was hustling gringos and they contacted the company. I subsequently saw him one day in the taxi line at Homecenter and he was chatting with the other drivers waiting for fares and I came up to him and told him to his face he was a thief. He got all angry and the other drivers were wondering what was up. So that was the payback he got from me, with him explaining to the other drivers why this gringo was calling him a thief. Or it was probably the other way around, with the other drivers wanting to know who was this fucking asshole gringo yelling at a taxi driver like that. Regardless, I unloaded on him, and felt much better regardless of what other's might think.

What happened with you at Parque LLeras is not surprising as I know other drivers will pull that stunt with the gringos to make a few extra bucks, but it is more the exception than the rule, and with it being Lleras and tourists not knowing any better some drivers will exploit the situation. Other than that one experience I had, and I have used the taxis here hundreds of times, and I have found the drivers to be very respectful and professional.[/QUOTE]

Overall not bad. I mean I fucked a 9, sessioned with 2 solid 8's, even fucked the one that gave me a hard time that I wanted to, and had 2 great casa sessions. Experienced a few good dining options, had a couple wonderful legit massages, soared like an eagle 9 k feet in the sky (I love paragliding there) and felt nice and relaxed. I could think of a lot worse ways to spend 6 days my friend. LOL.

Yeah I could have had better luck with the new Chicas, yeah there were one to two taxis that ripped me off etc. But seriously I didn't spend more than $100 US on about 20 taxi rides. So it's all about perspective. Yeah had I been more sober and attentive I should have got his cab number and complained, as more of a deterrent like you said, but anyhow, it was my first out and out such rip off experience in a cab and I was just a little pissed and not on my game. It happens sometimes. No big deal.

If I came across as having had a bad trip, not at all. It was quite enjoyable. Like others said, you learn each trip and it gets better each time. My report was more to set a realistic tone and expectations for others that may be planning.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2419250]Thank you very much for this enjoyable report. If you don't mind, would you please share the details of the good restaurants you visited?

I am a bit less than neutral on the facebook scene, mostly because of the waiting around it often involves. When I see so many guys mention how much time the facebook girls spend with them I know it's because the girls are doing the old routine of as little sex as they are allowed to get away with interspersed with small talk, boozing, and smoking cripa. Like any independent provider, I find the facebook girls have to be managed to get a fair bang for the buck. Managed as in getting the provider to agree in advance to what you want or move on to another.[/QUOTE]If you like Colombian food, modongos is actually quite decent. I liked the food and service at Puerto Inka. There is a Sushi house immediately next door that was great if you are into that. Peru con Alma was a nice steakhouse. Even the pizza at Pizza piccolo tasted better with fresher ingredients and made from scratch. If you just want a grab and go or feeling for a shawarma sandwich, there is a place at the exito gas station opposite the energy building. Rappi can even bring it to you, some of the best shawarma I have had anywhere. I am sure I did not even scratch the surface of what is out there.

I use 50,000 peso notes.

[QUOTE=KillaCam11;2419454]What do you guys stock up on to ensure the ladies have a good time and don't want to leave?

So far I'm thinking of having Ron, Coca Cola, tussi, xtasis. What else do you guys recommenced? Food and drink wise, what do the ladies like?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2419378]I don't know why guys pick girls who are fatter than the ones I like. I don't know why guys pick girls thinner than what I like. I don't know why guys insist on anal with the girls. I don't know why guys do TLN or 20 minute quickies. I don't know why everyone doesn't do everything exactly the same way as I.

I also don't care. It's their dick, their money and their business. If a guy wants to fly a girl away to San Andres for the weekend, that's his problem. If some guy wants to give a girl an iPhone 11 or a 3 ct diamond ring, it's his money, he doesn't need my permission.

If some guy just wants the girls in El Centro, or the girls at La Isla. Who am I to tell him he's doing it wrong?

Myself, I feel no need to call a girl, * If she's acting like una perra, I'll let her know, but I'm not calling her una perra just because she's willing to fuck me for money. I have no need to degrade her just because some woman in the US gets paid more than I do, especially when that girl in Colombia is probably trying to raise a kid on less than $300 per month.

I don't bow and scrape and kiss the girls asses. I just treat them like human beings. Turns out, many of them appreciate that.[/QUOTE]Clearly, many of us are from different age groups, and clearly the things that many of you do does not apply to younger guys, none whatsoever. I don't really have to wrestle with these girls or come to the board and proclaim that any of the girls in Medellin are banging me for free. Personally, I have heard all kinds of stories about chics who bang guys for free in Medellin, but I have yet to confirm that it occurs. I have not seen one freebie in Centro, I haven't but hey, maybe I'm just a different guy.

What I do know is that there is a lot of confusion on the board out of sheer spite, and it doesn't have to be that way. I've seen numerous Gringos come to Medellin and get a taste of Centro and wish like hell they had not stayed in Poblado. Why would I pay 3 times the rent and 3 times the amount for a girl when I can get the same or better experience in Centro for less? All I have to do is be patient. For the longest, I have not seen anyone post anything outstanding about the girls that they bang. All I see is, she was a 7.5 nearly an 8. 0 but she wasn't all that. Why in the hell would I follow that route when clearly you didn't like your own experience at the place you were located?

If you are complaining about prices and time, then you either don't speak Spanish and haven't figured out that most Colombian women are always late, at least an hour. If you see your date arrive with her boyfriend or cousin or pimp, you have every right to tell her that you do want to date her, but something inside of your little mind wants to hear the lie that she is willing to tell to secure you $250,00 pesos. Currently that Is $73 usd. So if you're complaining about $73.00 but staying in a $100 a night room maybe you should stay in your lane, because you're clearly over spending and out of your league.

This thread has more, complaints, more consumers, more experimenters than I can shake a stick at. Pick a struggle, either the girls are too difficult, too expensive, rushing you, or you really don't know how to achieve what you want and have not been able to express to the girl what it is that you want. My last trip was the worst trip ever and I still managed to bang 16 chics in 2 days and give an accurate report about Centro.

Here's the tea guys, come to Medellin, find some girls, fuck'them and then go home, it's as simple as that. Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2419404]Yah yah every guy has the right do what he wants. I was just giving my opinion. My point was buying drinks for a girl all night don't guarantee you any pussy back in the states. If a ***** wants to fuck you she will. Period. Point is guys need to stop the Simping. Ya'll can take those words how ya'll want. And this applies to bitches that got they shit together. Doesn't apply to any woman here in Colombia unless your fucking for free. At the end of the day she only with you for the pesos. Don't matter how good she treats you she don't give a fuck if you die the next day as long as she got paid. So although I won't disrespect any girl here unless she deserves it at the same time all her acts are fucking false. I ain't come here for a fake ass novia. I came to beat in some guts and get my money's worth. Ya'll do you and I'll continue to do me.[/QUOTE]"Guys need to stop." Isn't giving your opinion, it's telling everyone how they are required to behave, according to you.

You are so mistaken about the women in Colombia. There are plenty who just want to get paid and never see you again. There are also plenty who will happily spend the day with you, for nothing more than a cheap meal. There are plenty who, for what guys are paying for an hour who'll spend 10-12 hours, give as much sex as you can handle and leave you with a smile. There are girls who will, if you're there over Christmas, invite you to spend the day with their family. There are girls who will.

Some of us enjoy more than just beating in some guts. If it's okay with you, I for one will continue to do things the way I want.

Try Kin BBQ (Avenida 80 No. 34 A - 75), it's not completely authentic but most of the girls I bring there like it. I don't go often because it makes me miss the real Korean barbecue. In Barrio Manila I really like Idilico. It's very innovative and low key. El Trompo is in Provenza and similar to Idilico. Oci. Mde is reliable in Provenza but very crowded on weekend nights. Both emphasize local ingredients. Lleras is well, Lleras, LOL!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2419391]I know of many good restaurants in El Poblado, specifically the barrios of Manila, La Linde, Castaprol, Provenza, and Patio Bonito. I have yet to find a good Asian place, I tried the one in the Click Clack Hotel which was a rip off and terrible. There is an Asian place opposite the Orange Suites Hotel in Astorga which is okay, much better than the Click Clack and about half the price. Good seafood in Medellin, forget it, go to either Santa Marta or Cartagena for that. There are no good Thai restaurants, the one by Parque LLeras sucks, don't go there. Mexican food is a challenge, lots of places put pineapple on their tacos, and their interpretation of Mexican food doesn't make sense. One place on the same street as Carmens named Mal Siento Mesa of all things had Chilli Relleno on the menu, yet the ingredients did not include chili, egg, or cheese. It had meat and apples whatever they thought it was. The best Mexican place I have found is Chiliquales in Manila. They have homemade tortillas, homemade black beans, dishes from Oaxca including moles, Cochinta Pubil, Carnitas, which is to die for, and great guacamole.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Mondongos is OK. In that price range I usually go for Parmessano or Hacienda. Hato Viejo is of comparable quality to Mondongos. Up in the Barrio Buenos Aires the La Estacion barbecue restaurant is good and very inexpensive. It's a couple of doors from the Mercado del Tranvia. In the Mercado there are a dozen or so.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2419482]If you like Colombian food, modongos is actually quite decent. I liked the food and service at Puerto Inka. There is a Sushi house immediately next door that was great if you are into that. Peru con Alma was a nice steakhouse. Even the pizza at Pizza piccolo tasted better with fresher ingredients and made from scratch. If you just want a grab and go or feeling for a shawarma sandwich, there is a place at the exito gas station opposite the energy building. Rappi can even bring it to you, some of the best shawarma I have had anywhere. I am sure I did not even scratch the surface of what is out there.[/QUOTE]

I would be careful confronting people in Medellin. Read this story:

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[QUOTE=Knowledge;2419250]Thank you very much for this enjoyable report. If you don't mind, would you please share the details of the good restaurants you visited?

I am a bit less than neutral on the facebook scene, mostly because of the waiting around it often involves. When I see so many guys mention how much time the facebook girls spend with them I know it's because the girls are doing the old routine of as little sex as they are allowed to get away with interspersed with small talk, boozing, and smoking cripa. Like any independent provider, I find the facebook girls have to be managed to get a fair bang for the buck. Managed as in getting the provider to agree in advance to what you want or move on to another.[/QUOTE]That depends on the guy. If I pay a girl for 3 hrs my dick is going to be in one of her orifices at the minimum of 2 hrs. I don't play with they ass. Obviously when they tell me that they tired we can take a break for a few minutes. But other than that her ass is on the clock. When your working does your employer allow you to just chill for free. No they always want you to find something to do with keep busy. Why should it be any different with these girls. Shit at least give me a massage. Its not like most of these girls can even engage in a stimulating conversion that will intrigue me enough to make up for sex. Stop Simping. That's going to be my new slogan from now on LOL.

Are the problems people have with facebook girls leaving early or doing CBJ not solved by just agreeing everything in advance? If I've agreed a price I'm definitely going to make sure I know exactly what I'm paying for. I've yet to see one from facebook, but have spoken to a few, they universally seem happy with 200 k + taxi but what they do for that differs when I confirm, some say 1 cum but some are fine with multiple over 2 hours.

So far seen one from seeking and one from tinder, with both I agreed everything in advance, BBBJ, DFK, multiple cums over 2 or so hours. Tinder girl had to leave after just over an hour so I gave her half. Both very good sessions though.

Tried the clubs one night also, I think fase dos is terrible, 70% empty but you can't sit on those wooden stools / tables if you just buy the 20 k beer, so have to sit by the bar. A few stand out girls but most average and girls asking for tips a lot, seemed to be more asking than I saw dance, most girls all sat on the side on their phones. So with all that it's boring and can't relax. 10 k entry.

La isla has the best quality of all places I went. 22 k and they have proper tables and couches which you can sit on with a beer even though here is 70% full. Girls hassle for tips just as much, I had a girl asking for a tip before I even got my first beer and didn't like me saying no. Girls are more active here, walking about, saying Hello,. 10 k entry. I wasn't looking to session at the time but there was good options, I think I will return one night.

Gusto, 20 k entry 16 k beer, packed at midnight but quality was disappointing. It may just be my preference but to me the online options seem much better quality than what I see here.

Conejitas bar show, no entry, 6 k beer. General quality poor but some doable. Constant dances and you get less hassle in here so can relax.

[QUOTE=KillaCam11;2419454]What do you guys stock up on to ensure the ladies have a good time and don't want to leave?

So far I'm thinking of having Ron, Coca Cola, tussi, xtasis. What else do you guys recommenced? Food and drink wise, what do the ladies like?[/QUOTE]You already have quite a lot of merchandise as it is. How about stocking up on a pair? Negotiate up front for the time. Of she agrees to 3 hrs ***** is staying for 3 hrs or her pay getting cut. Have everything in writing and you should be good for the most part. It's like paying these bitches 200 k and taking them to a 100 k dinner or having drugs and booze available. I swear these girls in Poblado are living the life fucking with certain gringos. Yah yah every man has the right to do what he pleases with his money. Stop the Simping.

[QUOTE=KillaCam11;2419454]What do you guys stock up on to ensure the ladies have a good time and don't want to leave?

So far I'm thinking of having Ron, Coca Cola, tussi, xtasis. What else do you guys recommenced? Food and drink wise, what do the ladies like?[/QUOTE]Forget all that shit, just bring lots of money and they will never leave.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2419404]Yah yah every guy has the right do what he wants. I was just giving my opinion. My point was buying drinks for a girl all night don't guarantee you any pussy back in the states. If a ***** wants to fuck you she will. Period. Point is guys need to stop the Simping. Ya'll can take those words how ya'll want. And this applies to bitches that got they shit together. Doesn't apply to any woman here in Colombia unless your fucking for free. At the end of the day she only with you for the pesos. Don't matter how good she treats you she don't give a fuck if you die the next day as long as she got paid. So although I won't disrespect any girl here unless she deserves it at the same time all her acts are fucking false. I ain't come here for a fake ass novia. I came to beat in some guts and get my money's worth. Ya'll do you and I'll continue to do me.[/QUOTE]I'm so confused. Are you offering dating advice for the people who live in the states, or are you expressing your opinion on mongering in Medellin? Those two situations are fundamentally different. What you would spend to party in San Francisco in one night will make Gusto look like a thrift store (I'm talking about taking turns to buy drinks). Four out five times you will not go home with a girl, in that 1 out of 5 times you go back with a girl, if you are lucky, she is a San Francisco 7 and Medellin 4; she will be between 24-35. I'm stuck in hell; I have no choice but pay the 20 dollar cover charge, drink the 16 dollar cocktail, and fuck the Medellin 4. If I want to get a Medellin 8+ (an 18 year-old knock out) in the states, it will cost me 800+ an hour. I hope this gives some background on why I love Gusto so much; it is cheap and perfect.

Mongering in Medellin is different, for the price of five or six drinks in a good bar in San Francisco, I can get two 18-year-old, solid San Francisco 9+, for a divine four-hour threesome. I treat them the same way I treat my sisters (I have two sisters, 16 and 22, and I spoil them a lot). We always have a great time together. Sex has gotten better and better as we become friendlier. I agree that their primary objective is to earn pesos, but it doesn't hurt to make them more comfortable and create a relatively enjoyable experience for them; this is a none zero-sum game.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2419404] Don't matter how good she treats you she don't give a fuck if you die the next day as long as she got paid. [/QUOTE]Why would I ever want a girl to give a fuck if I die tomorrow, if anything, I paying her to not give a fuck.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2419501]That depends on the guy. If I pay a girl for 3 hrs my dick is going to be in one of her orifices at the minimum of 2 hrs. I don't play with they ass. Obviously when they tell me that they tired we can take a break for a few minutes. But other than that her ass is on the clock. [/QUOTE]If you want to maximize the number of calories they burn per hour, this a great approach! Thank you for keeping them in good shape for the rest of us. In my book, this is certainly not an excellent way to maximize your overall enjoyment; in fact, it is minimizing it.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2419501]When your working does your employer allow you to just chill for free. No they always want you to find something to do with keep busy. Why should it be any different with these girls. Shit at least give me a massage. Its not like most of these girls can even engage in a stimulating conversion that will intrigue me enough to make up for sex. Stop Simping. That's going to be my new slogan from now on LOL.[/QUOTE]I can see that we must have a different occupation. I always encourage my employees to be more creative than productive. Productivity matters, but creativity generates more value in the long run. It takes some chill time to brew creativity. You are not going to get the best monger experience by being a clock watcher the same way that you are not going to build a successful business by being a clock watcher. Let me enlighten you with some personal experience in Medellin. When I'm with smoking-hot [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] girls in Medellin, what I'm looking for is intimate sex; I want them to become comfortable enough with me that they will lose all their guards, it takes more than a few meetings to achieve this, but once you get there, it is a different world. Here are a few examples:

I had one 18-year-old girl who was super nervous the first time we met, we barely talked, sex was great back then, but it became phenomenal after I took the time to get to know her. She now shows me pictures of her childhood, walks through my Facebook list, and tells stories behind some of FB girls that she knows. She dances naked in a funky style in front of my mirror; she knew that I would not judge her. She even asks me to record a video of her play with herself. She use to come to my place, fuck and leave in 45 minutes, now we typically spend 3-4 hours together, dance, laugh, drink and fuck, for the same price as the 45-minute session. In the beginning, she didn't like DFK that much; now she sallows my tongue every chance she gets. This experience is much more enjoyable than watching my clock for 3 hours and asking her to go through some meaningless mechanical motion.

I had another 19-year-old who didn't want to snore my tussi and drink my whiskey the first time we met, but after I spent the time to show her that I'm a chill guy who respects her, she dropped all her guards [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]. She showed me her favorite dildo and played with her clit while I was fucking her, she squirted a few times too.

I had another 18-year-old who was extremely shy the first time we met, her DFK was barely acceptable, but after meeting her a few time, she said that she started to like me. Now she asks me to fuck her in the doggy style and put a line on her back, snore it while fucking her; she loves to watch me doing this in the mirror. Her weak DFK now turns into violent DFK. She used to be a 45-minute in-and-out girl; now we spend 2 to 3 hours together each time we meet, for the same price.

Just to be clear, I speak absolutely zero Spanish, all this can be done using google translate. I don't know about you, these are the type of sex I'm looking for in Medellin, and you are not going to get them by being a clock watcher.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2419204]I have an answer for SJobs, on post as well, one of the pregnant chicas was walking with her husband and she spoke to me, I politely spoke back and gave her a hug, then I asked her was she working and she said yes. The husband, her 2 sisters and her cousin went home and left her with me, it was about 8 pm. I took her back to my room in Parque Botero and banged her tight vagina in doggy style until I had a enough, for a really good low rate and she told me that she hadn't had a date all day that's why the husband was not against her having a date, the entire family hadn't eaten all day. Guess it was my lucky day.[/QUOTE]If I decide to pop my el centro cherry in my next trip that is coming up in less than a week, I will do it with an 18-year-old pregnant chick, it will be my first time banging a pregnant chick.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2419204]Me and PunkedLife witness a deranged man damn near stab a female in the park right in front of us. The overall look of the park and the prices show that the situation is damn near desperate, the girls working in the park are much more dangerous and far more brave and willing to play games and attempt to take advantage of Gringos.[/QUOTE]This sounds like a pretty dangerous street for a pregnant chick to work at.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2419476]Overall not bad. I mean I fucked a 9, sessioned with 2 solid 8's, even fucked the one that gave me a hard time that I wanted to, and had 2 great casa sessions. Experienced a few good dining options, had a couple wonderful legit massages, soared like an eagle 9 k feet in the sky (I love paragliding there) and felt nice and relaxed. I could think of a lot worse ways to spend 6 days my friend. LOL.[/QUOTE]Great report, thanks for sharing. This sounds like a fantastic trip. I have been through worse shit in terms of getting taxis in Medellin. During my first night in Medellin, I came back from El Fasian at 8 am, piss drunk and high, I paid 100 k for a ride that would have cost less than 20 k. Its all part of the game, I will not make that mistake again. But in general, the taxi drivers in Medellin are pretty legit; they are infinitely better than the Eastern European taxi drivers. Where are some good legit massage places in Medellin, any of them in Poblado?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2419198]How do you know the pregnant chick is not able to charge twice as much as the other chicks because she is a novelty? .[/QUOTE]I don't know, I have never gotten anyone pregnant before, and I have certainly never asked anyone pregnant to go on the street of El Centro to earn money. But I'm pretty sure people on this thread will have a pretty good idea on whether they will pay a pregnant chick twice as much as a knock-out 18-year-old. My guess is the pregnant chick is worth about the same, if not unless than a 9+ 18-year-old who is not pregnant.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2419198]Unfortunately, poor people do not think about the financial hardship and time that is involved when they are getting knocked up or knocking people up. The evolutionary train ensures that more people will be made, no matter if the people are filthy rich or dirt poor. Economic position has no bearing in whether more mfs in the animal kingdom will be or can be created. No matter how important we want to make ourselves feel, our only job here is to continue to populate the place.[/QUOTE]This is a funny argument, the same evolutionary forces that drives us to procreate will also promote the genes that find pregnant chick sexually unattractive.

How far in advance before your trip did you start with SA? Seems a bit time consuming as there are faster cheaper options out there. But the results were fantastic for you. LOL.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2419466]I arrived on Friday and left on Sunday, so it was a quick weekend trip. But I think I've fallen in love with Medellin already. The venues I used to find girls were La Isla, Loutron, and Seeking Arrangements. Read on if that is of interest to you.

Some background. I am a relatively young (30 yo) South Asian gentleman from the US. I speak un poco Spanish, having studied it in high school for 4 years. I would say that at this point, I'm losing my newbie status at mongering (but still making newbie mistakes haha). I've been to Thailand 5 times and Tijuana twice. Some may derisively label me as a "one week millionaire" - I'm not a millionaire by any means but my chief constraint for these type of trips is never cash, but time. PTO is hard to come by in the US, which means that I am trying to maximize my experiences in the limited amount of time available. I am more than willing to pay more for higher quality, both looks and service wise.

I booked the Friday morning Spirit flight from Fort Lauderdale to Medellin. No one would mistake Spirit for luxury travel, but it got the job done (aka it fit my schedule and my budget). 3. 5 hours and a relatively quiet flight. I got my first sight of Medellin as we descended, and I was blown away by how beautiful the verdant mountainous terrain was.

The one thing I really should have done better was planned my phone situation better before arriving. My company usually pays for international data, but apparently the policy had changed sometime last month and I didn't know. So I landed and found out that my phone just did not work without WiFi. I kicked myself for not bringing my unlocked phone from home. Long story short, I actually had to buy a new phone in the Santa Fe mall for about $40 and use that as a WiFi hotspot for my other phone. A real inconvenience, but I was not about to let $40 set me back.

I took an Uber to my hotel (about 50 k COP). I stayed at the Hotel Torre Poblado which is a few blocks from Parque Lleras in Poblado. For the one bedroom suite, I paid $70 per night in Chase Ultimate Rewards points (one of the many perks of travelling for work is racking up points and miles). It was a perfectly serviceable, bordering on nice, hotel. It was not seedy, which I liked. Clean, professional staff, friendly. Two knocks against it. The bathroom was not great. Small, water leaking from the stall, hot water shut off halfway through, fixtures were shabby. And second and more importantly. The WiFi was pretty terrible in the bedroom. It is girl-friendly as far as I can tell. All in all, pretty nice place, can recommend for a solid (but not exceptional) stay. The price point and location are pretty hard to beat though.

I had arranged to meet with my SA chick in the afternoon but I was sorting out my phone problems for the better part of three hours. I told her to instead hold off until Saturday evening and she agreed. I was not of, course, content to stay in for the night. I had La Isla on my the mind.

From what I can read on this forum (and from what the taxi drivers all told me) there are two top strip clubs in Medellin. Fase Dos and La Isla. Of the two La Isla is supposed to have hotter girls, is bigger, and has a more "exclusive" feel due to it's being tucked away high in the mountains. As I said before, I will pay for quality, so La Isla it was.

For the record, I think in the 21st century it should not be hard for a club to market themselves. Yet I had to trawl the web for over an hour to find La Isla on google maps and facebook. There was a vague consensus that it was located somewhere on Via Las Palmas, but each different map service took me to very different areas of the city. Thanks to the help of a map posted in this forum, I was able to triangulate its location. For future reference for newbies, instead of searching for "La Isla" in google, search for "Mirador de las Palmas" - there is not ambiguity about that location, and the nightclub is right next to it. End rant.

So I headed over to La Isla at about 9:30 pm, which I learned was way too early. I was just the second patron at the establishment so it was pretty dead for a while. I would not recommend anyone get here before 11 pm on Fridays, and I assume Saturdays would be similar as well. La Isla is a very expansive club, lounge sofas all around a large central stage with a pole. Girls dance around for a while and when they are done they come around to every single person to ask for a tip. It's generally expected that you tip them at least 2 k COP. It's less than a dollar so don't be a cheap charlie. Beers are about 15 k COP I think, not sure. Lady drinks / fichas are 25 k+, of which the girl gets 10 k. You can of course take a girl to the attached rooms. Room included, standard service is 300 k COP for an hour.

Now for the girls. At its peak there were maybe a few dozen of them. Before I give yall my ratings, keep in mind my tastes. Young, short, slim, natural, and light skinned. Unfortunately, there were not tons of girls that fit this phenotype. Many were tall, full-bodied, big asses, and clearly enhanced. In my opinion, I would say it's 30% <= 6, 60% 7, 5% 8, 5% = 9. For another reference point, I was say the Hong Kong club in Tijuana is 50% <= 6, 30% 7, 10% 8, 10% = 9. And most gogo bars in Thailand I go to would be 70% <= 6, 20% 7, 5% 8, 5% = 9. So in comparison to them, La Isla has a much higher floor. Relatively few fuglies that I wouldn't fuck for free. In contrast, most of the girls in Thai gogo bars are pure filler that I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. But La Isla also had fewer girls that checked all my boxes compared to HK.

Visitors to HK or Thailand will also note how low pressure La Isla is. No one was really pressuring me for drinks, the girls were willing to sit with me for a while before even asking for a drink, and they would sometimes stick around for a bit after finishing theirs.

Over the course of three hours, I probably bought drinks for a half dozen girls. I had my eye on a bombshell blonde Ivanka Trump look alike. I was shocked that she hadn't been taken out yet. I called her down and I realized why. She was a total ice queen. Left a gap between me and her, moved my hands off her, and when asked she refused BJs and besos. Quickly finished her drink and I threw her back into the sea.

I could've gone with a number girls that were "good enough" but I wanted to wait until I found the one. And I'm glad I did, because I met Lucy, a late 20's thin morena with a nice smile and a nice attitude. All natural, tight figure, cuppable breasts, and proportionate ass, etc. We chatted for a bit, and we had some chemistry, so I decided to take her arriba. For 300 k she promised BJ and besos, BB was not offered nor asked for.

The rooms in La Isla were quite functional. Better than most ST rooms in Thailand, about equivalent to Hotel Cascadas but maybe a bit cleaner. My chica offered me a hit of her blunt and I partook. We showered and then got down to business. Good CBJ, eye contact, and passionate. She got on top, and showered me with DFK which was muy rico. She rode me for a while, tried doggy for a few moments, but I finished in missionary (I'm such a romantic LOL). She gave me her Whatsapp, so I may see her again at some point. As we were chatting afterwards, she asked what I was doing the next day. I said I was spending time with a girl I met online. She warned me to be careful with Paisa chicas LOL. She didn't elaborate but I assume it's probably something to do with drugs, robbing, etc. Regardless it stuck with me. With that, I headed back to my room and that marked the end of a fruitful Day 1 in Medellin.

I had two objectives for Day 2, Saturday. Meeting my SA chick that night of course, but in the afternoon I wanted to check out Loutron. I heard good things about this place. I took the long taxi ride up to the beautiful retrofitted Escobar mansion. I reached there at about 2 pm, and again I may have been too early (someone please let me know if there's a better time). The manager chick there explained the pricing (generally 300 k for standard FS). I was seated with a beer, and she called in the chicas one by one. I got to say, I was not impressed. There were none that fit my preferred petite profile. Many of the women appeared quite old. There was one girl Paolina that was approaching my taste, but for $100 I was not willing. I asked the manager if there would be a larger selection later on in the day, and she said not really. IDK if that was just her trying to get me to bite, but regardless I took that as my queue to leave empty handed.

Now for my date with my SA chick. Long story short, it was amazing. I will keep her identity hidden, in an to attempt to keep her all to myself LOL. Let's call her Diana. I would recommend SA wholeheartedly for anyone who has time to vet the girls on the website. It's a lot of work, as most girls rarely check the site. And the demographics I was looking for (18 - 21 yo) are pretty flaky in general. Add to that the difficulty of differentiating between the "real" girls and the prepagos. There was one girl who straight up propositioned me for 250 USD. She was hot but the goal of me using SA was to find a non-pro. Diana did respond though, and we moved the conversation to WhatsApp over which we'd been chatting for about a week or so.

Diana is 22, a real universitaria. She isn't conventionally stunning, but goddamn if she was not cute as a button. Relatively tall, thin and pretty. Smart, talkative (which nicely complemented my naturally quiet personality), and aligned with me with values, ideals, priorities, etc. We chatted for close to an hour and a half just during our meet and greet at the Mi Habana bar.

She said it was her first time on SA, and it was obvious that she was a total non-pro. She was hesitant to discuss anything explicit during our meet and greet (maybe her complete lack of English was a roadblock), and she seemed a bit uncomfortable about it. That threw up some red flags. The risk with non-pros like on SA is that they don't know what they want and might go into it expecting platonic arrangements (no sex). More hardened mongers will no doubt pipe up to say that I should have pressed her during the meet and greet, lest I set myself up for a wasted time. Two things though - 1) I was really enjoying my time with Diana, and 2) worst case scenario she would go home after our platonic data and I could pick someone up in Parque Lleras / Gustos.

She wanted to stop by at an ATM to get cash for her taxi home (another red flag). But I refused to wait in her line (and I wanted her to know that I would be paying for things) so I guided her towards a food cart instead. We got some crepes and headed to Luxury club off Parque Lleras. It was packed, and it was what I was expecting. Loud reggaeton with intoxicated young people grinding on each other. Aka exactly my scene haha.

Diana was not dressed for the occasion (read: slutty), and she was clearly out of her element here. She said she had been there for a birthday with a coworker and she enjoyed it, but I could sense she was not very comfortable. While everyone else was getting hammered, she ordered for us a fruity slushy with candy pieces in it haha. We bounced after an hour and headed to my hotel.

There the "drama" if you will started. She was nervous / shy, and did not reciprocate my overt moves. She talked about it was strange that we would move so quickly after knowing each other for just 5 hours. She started asking me about my last girlfriend and how long it had been since I broke up with her. It felt like she was stalling for time, but I indulged her. I didn't make any more overt moves (like going for her breasts or moving towards a kiss) but we were physical. She had taken off her shoes and were laying next to each other more or less. I was ready to call it and basically told her I was going to sleep (trying to get her to leave so I could move on), but she didn't appear to get my hint. She asked if I normally went to sleep with lights on, and I was like whatever turn off the lights then. I was waiting for her bounce, when finally my autistic-ass brain finally caught up to me. I was the one who wasn't getting the message! She could have left a while ago, but instead she is lying next to me in bed with the lights off. No wonder I suck with girls, if it took me this long to pick up the hint.

Anyways, once I realized what was happening, I leaned over and gave her a kiss, this turned into a deep make-out session as if we were teenagers. The clothes start shedding off, and soon I had in my hands Diana's supple, beautiful body. Perfect little breasts that she enjoyed being sucked, a bare picturesque pussy, and of course those her wonderful kissable lips. We tried missionary but she was super tight and to be honest the alcohol had done a number on my dick. We switched to cowgirl which worked magnificently. She rode me til I cum, and then she leaned over to make out as I grew soft inside her.

All this was done bareback, which I am now very much regretting. She didn't seem high mileage so STDs didn't seem like a huge risk. But that's the small head talking. She seemed smart enough to be on birth control / plan be / whatever. But that's the small head talking. So yeah. Not my proudest moment. Also should mention that there was no BJ whatsoever. I barely cared at the moment, but I've got to work on that if I see her again.

Following that we cuddled and she was very sweet and tender. I didn't get much sleep that night, as I usually don't when sharing a bed. But I was content in having this beautiful creature by my side that evening. In the morning she was gathering her stuff to leave and I gave her 350 k for the night, to which she asked "Why are you giving me so much?" I didn't tell her this, but in my mind the experience I had with Diana was worth well more than $102 - indeed, I have spent more for less. Like, $100 will get you a half hour with a girl in HK, I got Diana for the whole night.

Reading over this it sounds a lot like I'm catching feelings already haha. The Pattaya people are fond of throwing out the 3-day rule, wherein you never see the same girl more than 3 times in a row. I've always thought that was pure garbage. If you're into the girl then enjoy yourself. So we'll see how this goes. Maybe this is what Lucy at La Isla was warning me about. Be careful with las Paisas. I've got another trip planned for the middle of February, also another quick weekend jaunt. I'm laying the groundwork for seeing her already, I'm sure I won't have any trouble convincing her to sync-up again.

Anyways, the rest of the trip went by uneventfully. Had a latte at the nearby Toucan Cafe on Sunday morning, and then a very good empanada at a whole in the wall that is popular with locals. Checked out of my hotel, took a 50 k COP Didi ride to the airport, spent some time at the Priority Pass Lounges (they're quite nice, although the food could be a bit more substantial). Back on the Spirit flight to the US, during which I am writing this report. Te ver pronto, Medellin![/QUOTE]

Saturday in Barranquilla I put my card in a Bancolombia machine to take out 600K. It gave me some kind of message but no money. I know sometimes when machines in third world countries do that you can select a smaller amount and it will work. So I put my card in again and tried 400K. Still the same thing.

When I got to Medellin yesterday and checked my account, it showed I had taken out $181 (600K) and that $122 (400K) was also taken out at the same machine but reversed. I immediately called Schwab and the lady did whatever to file the dispute. My days of using Bancolombia machines are over.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2419484]Clearly, many of us are from different age groups, and clearly the things that many of you do does not apply to younger guys, none whatsoever. I don't really have to wrestle with these girls or come to the board and proclaim that any of the girls in Medellin are banging me for free. Personally, I have heard all kinds of stories about chics who bang guys for free in Medellin, but I have yet to confirm that it occurs. I have not seen one freebie in Centro, I haven't but hey, maybe I'm just a different guy.[/QUOTE]You're probably not going to find any freebies in El Centro. You're not out there trying to cultivate that type of relationship. You're there to find them, fuck them, pay them and send them out the door. And there's nothing wrong with that.

Go find some of the expats who have been living in Medellin for several years. You'll find many of them are getting frequent freebies. I'm sure when you're back home you have the opportunity for lots of freebies. I know I have plenty of options and I'm an old, hunchbacked freak. It's a different dynamic when you live there. Of course, it all depends on how a guy treats others.

[QUOTE]What I do know is that there is a lot of confusion on the board out of sheer spite, and it doesn't have to be that way. I've seen numerous Gringos come to Medellin and get a taste of Centro and wish like hell they had not stayed in Poblado. Why would I pay 3 times the rent and 3 times the amount for a girl when I can get the same or better experience in Centro for less? All I have to do is be patient. For the longest, I have not seen anyone post anything outstanding about the girls that they bang. All I see is, she was a 7.5 nearly an 8. 0 but she wasn't all that. Why in the hell would I follow that route when clearly you didn't like your own experience at the place you were located?[/QUOTE]And I've seen guys who decided to land in El Centro, hid in their hotel room for 1 night and then ran away to Poblado. Everyone has to find their own level. As for paying 3 times as much, last trip the total cost for my 10 nights lodging, in a 3 Bed, 2 Bath apartment with an excellent pool and fitness center came to exactly $0.00 USD (or 0.000 COP). Unfortunately, I'll have to pay for lodging next time.

Also the experience you have doesn't translate to anyone else. Even if someone bangs all the same girls you do, their experience with each will be different.

[QUOTE]If you are complaining about prices and time, then you either don't speak Spanish and haven't figured out that most Colombian women are always late, at least an hour. If you see your date arrive with her boyfriend or cousin or pimp, you have every right to tell her that you do want to date her, but something inside of your little mind wants to hear the lie that she is willing to tell to secure you $250,00 pesos. Currently that Is $73 usd. So if you're complaining about $73.00 but staying in a $100 a night room maybe you should stay in your lane, because you're clearly over spending and out of your league.[/QUOTE]Colombians have the "maana" attitude. The clock isn't a top priority. I try to use that to my favor. Very few women are in a rush to leave and I'm usually in no rush for them to leave.

Who a girl arrives with, or what she does after leaving isn't my problem, neither is what she's going to do with the money. If I hire someone to take care of my lawn, my only concern is they do what they're being paid to do, not what they're having for dinner.

I don't complain about how much I pay, or worry about losing a few dollars. I would never stay in a $100 per night room, not in Medellin. There are too many options for under $35 and I can get around the city better than most.

[QUOTE]This thread has more, complaints, more consumers, more experimenters than I can shake a stick at. Pick a struggle, either the girls are too difficult, too expensive, rushing you, or you really don't know how to achieve what you want and have not been able to express to the girl what it is that you want. My last trip was the worst trip ever and I still managed to bang 16 chics in 2 days and give an accurate report about Centro.[/QUOTE]Everyone is different. We've got guys who say you should only treat the girls like garbage, others want to treat them like queens. There are guys who want to party 24/7 and guys who never touch drugs or alcohol. Some want 6 girls a day, some want 1 girl for 6 days. Some want them chunky, some skinny, some young, some old, some pregnant, some not. Some guys say there's no reason to try and talk with the girls, some enjoy the conversations.

The guys who don't know what they want are the ones hitting your PMs (and mine) wanting contact numbers, wanting pictures and details. They read a report and treat it like a porno. They want to put themselves in the starring role. Most of us already learned to walk our own path and find our own girls. We don't need to worry if everyone else can see we're having a good time.

[QUOTE]Here's the tea guys, come to Medellin, find some girls, fuck'them and then go home, it's as simple as that. Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]See? That wasn't so difficult.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2419494]Yeah, Mondongos is OK. In that price range I usually go for Parmessano or Hacienda. Hato Viejo is of comparable quality to Mondongos. Up in the Barrio Buenos Aires the La Estacion barbecue restaurant is good and very inexpensive. It's a couple of doors from the Mercado del Tranvia. In the Mercado there are a dozen or so.[/QUOTE]Try Bottega de Verde in Ciudad del Rio for Italian. It's near the Museum of Modern Art. El Botaniko in Provenza (not to be confused with La Botanika at Parque Lleras which has a great Burger, or El Botaniko next to New Life) is excellent, but pricey. Bao Bei on Carrera 36, just off Calle 10 for great Asian fusion. Tiny place, so there's always a wait. The Korean BBQ across from the'Andres on Carrera 37 is also quite good. If you want lots of food for a reasonable price, Thaico at Parque Lleras offers everything half price from lunch to (I believe) 6 pm. Easily enough for 2 for about 13 k. Just be sure to tell them spicy. They also have 3 for 1 drink deals.

For breakfast, it's hard to beat the'Andres, although I always enjoy El Desayunero on Calle 10. Hotel DuParc Royal also does a good breakfast buffet. Back in Provenza, Arabe is another I'd recommend (if I'm remembering the right place). Full Arabe in Laureles is another good spot for dinner. El Apache on Carrera 70 used to do a good steak, but looks like they're closed now.

I've found a lot of good places by getting away from the main areas. In Laureles everyone focuses on La 70 or Avenida Nutibara, but there are dozens of nice spots on the surrounding streets. Or, head somewhere, anywhere, flag down a taxi and start asking the driver about restaurants. Found a few excellent spots around Obrero that way.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2419696]Saturday in Barranquilla I put my card in a Bancolombia machine to take out 600K. It gave me some kind of message but no money. I know sometimes when machines in third world countries do that you can select a smaller amount and it will work. So I put my card in again and tried 400K. Still the same thing.

When I got to Medellin yesterday and checked my account, it showed I had taken out $181 (600K) and that $122 (400K) was also taken out at the same machine but reversed. I immediately called Schwab and the lady did whatever to file the dispute. My days of using Bancolombia machines are over.[/QUOTE]I had this happen with servico atms, the green ones that carter to foreigners. Well it turns out that the weekend it happened they banks implemented their switches and if you had an ATM code that was greater then 4 digits, it would charge the bank but not dispess the cash. THe solution, I had to change my pin from 6 to 4 digits. However during that time I had them refund like $600 and it was al cleared and taken care of.

Good catch, these ATMS do mad shady stuff from time to time but it's all good as long as you pay attention.

Wow! I landed last night and I try to use uber and a weird message came up.

Turns out the enforcement of making uber llegal in Colombia was just implemented on the 1st of Febuary.

[URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-01/-adios-colombia-uber-makes-its-first-exit-in-latin-america[/URL]

I can't belive this country just kissed away 40 MIl in tax revenue. What a joke. Easy taxi still works though.

[QUOTE=KillaCam11;2419454]What do you guys stock up on to ensure the ladies have a good time and don't want to leave?

So far I'm thinking of having Ron, Coca Cola, tussi, xtasis. What else do you guys recommenced? Food and drink wise, what do the ladies like?[/QUOTE]And for some the cheap little black plastic bags with a touch of glue to sniff, ahhhh that smells like shit.

The Tall Man.

So I decided to stay at the Mansion on Saturday night and brought along one of Amigas to spend the night with me. Upon arriving around 5 PM we were warmly greeted by the Mansion staff, and upon registering and paying we were taken to our room. Nicely appointed room for the locale, and the bed was very comfortable, which was immediately utilized upon the closing of the door. After we completed our first session I informed my Amiga that I had a bottle of red wine, cheese, and crackers for us to share so we went upstairs to the balcony on the fourth floor, pulled up some chairs, and took in a beautiful sunset. I handed her the bottle of wine and the corkscrew and asked her to un-cork the wine. She was clueless not knowing what a corkscrew was let alone a cork for that matter. Her liquor experience as she told me was limited to Rum, Aquardiente, and Cerveza. Regardless, I opened up the wine, poured it into the plastic cups I had brought and we started munching on the cheese and crackers. After about five minutes two guys came up to the balcony and were drinking beers, followed by another couple of came up and started smoking weed. Directly below us was Parque Perdista, also known as "Stoners Park". The other guests drinking beer and smoking weed were a bit perplexed to see someone with a bottle of wine, cheese, and crackers. Anyways, after we finished the bottle of wine we decided to go to dinner and spent some time in the park. Lot's and lots of people, musical instruments, and everyone had something in common. It was either a drink (beer, rum, aguardiente) in one hand, or a joint in one hand, or one of each in each hand, and / or Coke to snort. Vendors were selling joints of Marijuana for 2,000 Pesos and bags of Coke for 4,000 Pesos. I watched some of the transactions and what people were paying. After spending time in the park we went to a Chinese place around the corner and then came back thru the park and my Amiga purchased a joint. We went back up to the room, and were ready for another session and my Amiga said she wanted to get high so she went up to the balcony, I declined, and when she came back she was like a female dog (Perra) in heat ready to tumble. An amorous nymphomaniac, I was in heaven and after the second session we fell asleep, albeit there was some noise from the street but not really from the other clients in the rooms and I was woken up a few times during the night. And around six in the morning I woke up with morning wood which was easily taken care of by my Amiga. We slept some more after our third session and finally departed around 10:30 AM and I was totally des-leched. So the total damage for this extravaganza was approximately 35 K for the room, 30 K for dinner, 30 K for wine / cheese / crackers, 2 K for my Amigas joint, 6 K for transport, and 150 K for my Amiga. So I spent a whopping 253 K or about $ 75 USD for a romantic evening of sexual debauchery, and my Amiga was thanking me profusely for such a good time and so much money.

So would I recommend the Mansion to others. If you like to get high but don't have to, have a good tolerance for noise, and don't mind a room with the minimum (hot water, flat screen TV, & Fan) and speak some Spanish it could be a lot of fun. I know other gringos frequent the park there, but I don't think so many other gringos actually spend the night there, perhaps some of the other posters have. Way different scene then the "Little Caracas" part of town. I have no problem going back. I'm not there to get high on drugs, but to be devoured by and devour my Amiga when she is in heat.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2419696]When I got to Medellin yesterday and checked my account, it showed I had taken out $181 (600K) and that $122 (400K) was also taken out at the same machine but reversed. I immediately called Schwab and the lady did whatever to file the dispute. My days of using Bancolombia machines are over.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2419718] Well it turns out that the weekend it happened they banks implemented their switches and if you had an ATM code that was greater then 4 digits, it would charge the bank but not dispess the cash. THe solution, I had to change my pin from 6 to 4 digits. However during that time I had them refund like $600 and it was al cleared and taken care of..[/QUOTE]Excuse me?? Anyone can provide some more details about this?

My debit card has a 5-digit PIN. I have always used it without problems in Colombia. Now you are saying that the PIN must be 4-digit, or it will not work but cause that mess? It's incredible to say the least!

What should I do, except changing the PIN to 4 digits? (which is not possible, as my bank wisely does not allow shorter PINs).

Mr. E, what do you mean with "reversed"? That your account lists a withdrawal, but the same amount has been immediately returned because the transaction has been recognized as not happened?

[QUOTE=SJobs;2419654]But I'm pretty sure people on this thread will have a pretty good idea on whether they will pay a pregnant chick twice as much as a knock-out 18-year-old. My guess is the pregnant chick is worth about the same, if not unless than a 9+ 18-year-old who is not pregnant..[/QUOTE]My guess is that the pregnant Chicas are not going to get anymore than the non-pregnant Chicas contrary to what Mr. E might think. Yes they are a novelty for sure, but maybe in a negative way versus a positive way. Or I suppose for the Aficionados, kind of like something rare which they are willing to pay more for. Perhaps in the next few days I will interview a few and find out how much they want, but I would be surprised if they actually get more than the others but could be totally wet on that one.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2419747]Excuse me?? Anyone can provide some more details about this?

My debit card has a 5-digit PIN. I have always used it without problems in Colombia. Now you are saying that the PIN must be 4-digit, or it will not work but cause that mess? It's incredible to say the least!

What should I do, except changing the PIN to 4 digits? (which is not possible, as my bank wisely does not allow shorter PINs).

Mr. E, what do you mean with "reversed"? That your account lists a withdrawal, but the same amount has been immediately returned because the transaction has been recognized as not happened?[/QUOTE]Certain banks and certain ATMS are doing this.

Because I literally had it happen over night with some weird ATM firmware update and it was sooo hard for me to figure ut out.

It's in small print, you got to contact your back and find out. I think it has to do with the switching company thtat the ATM in Colombia and the bank in the US has on the backend.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2419747]Excuse me?? Anyone can provide some more details about this?

My debit card has a 5-digit PIN. I have always used it without problems in Colombia. Now you are saying that the PIN must be 4-digit, or it will not work but cause that mess? It's incredible to say the least!

What should I do, except changing the PIN to 4 digits? (which is not possible, as my bank wisely does not allow shorter PINs).

Mr. E, what do you mean with "reversed"? That your account lists a withdrawal, but the same amount has been immediately returned because the transaction has been recognized as not happened?[/QUOTE]Now I am confused but that's nothing new. A five digit pin number? When I use my Wells Fargo and Bank of America Cards say at Colpatria or BanColombia ATM it always ask for my four digit PIN number. On the screen it shows four lines.

Mind if I ask what bank you use that has a five digit number?

I also have a BanColombia debit card as well, and it onlly has a 4 digit PIN number so something is weird.

Heading down at the end of the month for 3 weeks. This is exactly how I'd like to spend each day. Sounds great.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2419745]So the total damage for this extravaganza was approximately 35 K for the room, 30 K for dinner, 30 K for wine / cheese / crackers, 2 K for my Amigas joint, 6 K for transport, and 150 K for my Amiga. So I spent a whopping 253 K or about $ 75 USD for a romantic evening of sexual debauchery, and my Amiga was thanking me profusely for such a good time and so much money. [/QUOTE]Sounds like you had a great time there, well done! I'm surprised you only paid 35 k for the room at the mansion. Last time I was there, they were asking for 85 dollars a night, I didn't have a reservation at the time and I already have a big Airbnb apartment, so I just paid the 50 K entrance fee to the bar.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2419745]So would I recommend the Mansion to others. If you like to get high but don't have to, have a good tolerance for noise, and don't mind a room with the minimum (hot water, flat screen TV, & Fan) and speak some Spanish it could be a lot of fun. I know other gringos frequent the park there, but I don't think so many other gringos actually spend the night there, perhaps some of the other posters have. Way different scene then the "Little Caracas" part of town. I have no problem going back. I'm not there to get high on drugs, but to be devoured by and devour my Amiga when she is in heat.[/QUOTE]My only complaint about the mansion are the rooms, they are too basic, but I do love the mirrors though. I wish they have better rooms, I know lots of people are happy to pay 50 dollar extra for an upgraded room.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2419747]
Mr. E, what do you mean with "reversed"? That your account lists a withdrawal, but the same amount has been immediately returned because the transaction has been recognized as not happened?[/QUOTE]I had similar experience with Bancolombia. I did repeated withdraws several times in a row but no bills came out. I was charged multiple times but they were reversed back to my account automatically. I only called my bank to confirm the deposits of the failed withdraws. Their ATMs are everywhere but I will avoid using them again.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2419745]So I decided to stay at the Mansion on Saturday night and brought along one of Amigas to spend the night with me. Upon arriving around 5 PM we were warmly greeted by the Mansion staff, and upon registering and paying we were taken to our room. Nicely appointed room for the locale, and the bed was very comfortable, which was immediately utilized upon the closing of the door. After we completed our first session I informed my Amiga that I had a bottle of red wine, cheese, and crackers for us to share so we went upstairs to the balcony on the fourth floor, pulled up some chairs, and took in a beautiful sunset. I handed her the bottle of wine and the corkscrew and asked her to un-cork the wine. She was clueless not knowing what a corkscrew was let alone a cork for that matter. Her liquor experience as she told me was limited to Rum, Aquardiente, and Cerveza. Regardless, I opened up the wine, poured it into the plastic cups I had brought and we started munching on the cheese and crackers. After about five minutes two guys came up to the balcony and were drinking beers, followed by another couple of came up and started smoking weed. Directly below us was Parque Perdista, also known as "Stoners Park". The other guests drinking beer and smoking weed were a bit perplexed to see someone with a bottle of wine, cheese, and crackers. Anyways, after we finished the bottle of wine we decided to go to dinner and spent some time in the park. Lot's and lots of people, musical instruments, and everyone had something in common. It was either a drink (beer, rum, aguardiente) in one hand, or a joint in one hand, or one of each in each hand, and / or Coke to snort. Vendors were selling joints of Marijuana for 2,000 Pesos and bags of Coke for 4,000 Pesos. I watched some of the transactions and what people were paying..[/QUOTE]You're going to have everyone confused. I used to have a picture of that Mansion, even went inside and checked out one of the rooms.

Here's a suggestion for your next romantic get away. It's going to cost a little bit more, but not much.

Hop on the south bound Metro with your current girl. Don't forget the wine and weed. Take it to the Ayura station. From the station walk south along the Autopista for about 2 blocks to Motel Ibiza. Or you could splurge and pay 15 k for the taxi.

The room, depending on what you take from the mini-bar, will cost about 100 k. You'll find real wine glasses, a jacuzzi tub, an incredible shower, a nice sound system, a stripper pole, a love chair and a nice big bed. You have to pay extra after 6 hours, but it's reasonable. Room service is available and I understand the food is good. There are ashtrays in the room, so smoking does happen.

Lacks the culture of Parque de Las periodistas, bit it has it's own charm.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2419649]Where are some good legit massage places in Medellin, any of them in Poblado?[/QUOTE]Go to Centro Comercial Rio Sur on Avenida Poblado. It's across from Oviedo mall. Inside there are 3 legit massage places. OM Spa for men has been reviewed a few times. The Garage Spa, offshoot from the Garage Barber shop is also there, but no reviews that I'm aware of. And then there's Zen Exclusive Spa.

I've been to Zen twice, both times the massage was excellent and both girls were happy with taking care of the little muscle that popped up. Both looked to be early to mid 20's and very attractive.

If I remember correctly, 180 k for the hour, including the happy ending.

Just left my favorite casa. Costs 50 for the girl and 12 for the room. I didn't hit a chick, but arranged for one to come all night. She said 250. I said ok, but you pay your babysitter and transportation. She said okay.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2419436]It's unbelievable as you have noticed how things have changed in El Centro over the past months, specifically at the location of the street sign located at Carrea 52 and Calle 52 which I now refer to as "Little Caracas" which I used to refer to as "Ground Zero". There's so many Venezuelans, and with so many of them being impregnated who are now working the streets, the next thing you will know this information will get around the world that Medellin is the place to find pregnant women to bang, and there will be plane loads of "Pregnant Chica Aficionados" showing up, and apparently we have quite a few here already that are coming out of the closet.[/QUOTE]Mongers have stopped going to Asia. Argentina is no more, Sosua is in decline, Rio is in decline; now everyone is headed to Medellin, what's going to happen to my beloved destination?

I was wondering if anyone could offer some advice for a trip I am planning in the spring. My last trip I stayed in Poblado Plaza which was very nice, but it had a huge fee to check in a guest, 60.00 USD. I am tempted to stay there again because the staff, rooms, location, and convenience were all excellent. Just very pricey compared to many other places in Medellin. I prefer hotels for security, comfort, and amenities while on vacation. I am also very interested in the Dann Carlton Hotel, Energy Apartments, and Blux Apartments. Does anyone know the guest fees for these places. I think I heard Energy and Blux might not have guest fees as they are AIRBNB, but I could be wrong. I noticed Energy is pretty expensive compared to Blux. Is Energy worth the extra money? I also read Energy and Blux can get pretty loud from partying and it can be annoying which would kinda suck. If anyone could offer their opinion on these places that would be really cool. Also if anyone knows of some other hotels in Poblado that they could recommend or comment on, that would be really cool as well. Thanks in advance for responses.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2419788]You're going to have everyone confused. I used to have a picture of that Mansion, even went inside and checked out one of the rooms.[/QUOTE]Yes a few are dazed and confused as evidenced by one of the posts thus far, and should be. But my report was completely factual, and I believe there are actually three Hotels named the Mansion in Medellin.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2419788]Here's a suggestion for your next romantic get away. It's going to cost a little bit more, but not much.

Hop on the south bound Metro with your current girl. Don't forget the wine and weed. Take it to the Ayura station. From the station walk south along the Autopista for about 2 blocks to Motel Ibiza. Or you could splurge and pay 15 k for the taxi.

The room, depending on what you take from the mini-bar, will cost about 100 k. You'll find real wine glasses, a jacuzzi tub, an incredible shower, a nice sound system, a stripper pole, a love chair and a nice big bed. You have to pay extra after 6 hours, but it's reasonable. Room service is available and I understand the food is good. There are ashtrays in the room, so smoking does happen.

Lacks the culture of Parque de Las periodistas, bit it has it's own charm.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your suggestion for my next romantic getaway, but I don't need all the amenities. An amorous nympho, with a sopping silky tight pussy, a vice grip vacuum mouth, and a loving attitude is all I need.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2419721]And for some the cheap little black plastic bags with a touch of glue to sniff, ahhhh that smells like shit.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I saw a sniffer today in El Centro without a black plastic bag, the hallmark of a "Sacalero". Instead this guy had the bottle up to his nostrils and was sniffing. I thought about stopping and talking with him and informing him that he would get a much better buzz using a bag with the Toulene fumes being concentrated within the bag resulting in much a higher dosage and high. However, I don't think he would of understood anything I could of said, and he looked infested with scabies and what appeared to be some open sores so I passed on that.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2419791]Go to Centro Comercial Rio Sur on Avenida Poblado. It's across from Oviedo mall. Inside there are 3 legit massage places. OM Spa for men has been reviewed a few times. The Garage Spa, offshoot from the Garage Barber shop is also there, but no reviews that I'm aware of. And then there's Zen Exclusive Spa.

I've been to Zen twice, both times the massage was excellent and both girls were happy with taking care of the little muscle that popped up. Both looked to be early to mid 20's and very attractive.

If I remember correctly, 180 k for the hour, including the happy ending.[/QUOTE]There last week and there are 4. LOL. Add to your list Dharma massage. There is a veritable 8+/10 there, I will withhold the name, she is a fine masseuse, and a great looker to boot. She is a dancer and does this as her supporting gig. My order if prioritizing the massages is 1) Zen, 2) dharma 3) Om and 4) Garage. They are all around 90-110 range for the hour of legit massage with about 60 extra if you got additional services ie a Handjob. But unless you just got off the plane and want a release, there are better ways to release in Medellin. LOL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2419799]Just left my favorite casa. Costs 50 for the girl and 12 for the room. I didn't hit a chick, but arranged for one to come all night. She said 250. I said ok, but you pay your babysitter and transportation. She said okay.[/QUOTE]Congratulations. You're a shrewd negotiator, LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2419800]Mongers have stopped going to Asia. Argentina is no more, Sosua is in decline, Rio is in decline; now everyone is headed to Medellin, what's going to happen to my beloved destination?[/QUOTE]

You’re no dummy, I think you already know the answer to that.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2419803]I was wondering if anyone could offer some advice for a trip I am planning in the spring. My last trip I stayed in Poblado Plaza which was very nice, but it had a huge fee to check in a guest, 60.00 USD. I am tempted to stay there again because the staff, rooms, location, and convenience were all excellent. Just very pricey compared to many other places in Medellin. I prefer hotels for security, comfort, and amenities while on vacation. I am also very interested in the Dann Carlton Hotel, Energy Apartments, and Blux Apartments. Does anyone know the guest fees for these places. I think I heard Energy and Blux might not have guest fees as they are AIRBNB, but I could be wrong. I noticed Energy is pretty expensive compared to Blux. Is Energy worth the extra money? I also read Energy and Blux can get pretty loud from partying and it can be annoying which would kinda suck. If anyone could offer their opinion on these places that would be really cool. Also if anyone knows of some other hotels in Poblado that they could recommend or comment on, that would be really cool as well. Thanks in advance for responses.[/QUOTE]You should get a forum membership so that you can send and receive private messages, guys are not going to post a lot of details about places to stay because they do not want all the lurkers to see it and there be one dumbass who does some stupid shit at the place and ruins it for everyone.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2419784]Sounds like you had a great time there, well done! I'm surprised you only paid 35 k for the room at the mansion. Last time I was there, they were asking for 85 dollars a night, I didn't have a reservation at the time and I already have a big Airbnb apartment, so I just paid the 50 K entrance fee to the bar.

My only complaint about the mansion are the rooms, they are too basic, but I do love the mirrors though. I wish they have better rooms, I know lots of people are happy to pay 50 dollar extra for an upgraded room.[/QUOTE]I think he is talking about a Mansion downtown, not the one in Poblado where gringos stay. The one in Poblado does not have four floors, and there is no park you can look down on.

[QUOTE=Jrealyo;2419672]How far in advance before your trip did you start with SA? Seems a bit time consuming as there are faster cheaper options out there. But the results were fantastic for you. LOL.[/QUOTE]I was reaching out about 2-3 weeks before my trip. It would have been much easier if I was just looking for a hooker, girls were hitting me up and favoriting me.

But yeah definitely worth it if looking for a non-pro.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2419418]Just stay at a place with security that checks ID-then its on the front desk security not you. They verified the ID they are used to--you can't be expected to be held responsible if the front desk security checked the ID and sent her up. That's what you are paying to be at that hotel for!. Hotel / apartment security is the way to go. Also, have the security call you and check on you if she leaves the room alone. And let the girl know that's how it works. This isn't that complicated.[/QUOTE]Or it can backfire on you and the hotel staff will bribe you. My SA tour guide friend was telling me how she had to help out a gringo in a situation where the chick was caught with fake ID at the hotel. The front desk guy said he was going to call the cops. The way she explained it, if the cops are called you are fucked plain and simple. She said you can pay your way out of having drugs on you but not when there is minor involved. The dude gave the front desk staff 200 K and he was good with that.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2419696]Saturday in Barranquilla I put my card in a Bancolombia machine to take out 600K. It gave me some kind of message but no money. I know sometimes when machines in third world countries do that you can select a smaller amount and it will work. So I put my card in again and tried 400K. Still the same thing.

When I got to Medellin yesterday and checked my account, it showed I had taken out $181 (600K) and that $122 (400K) was also taken out at the same machine but reversed. I immediately called Schwab and the lady did whatever to file the dispute. My days of using Bancolombia machines are over.[/QUOTE]That's messed up right there. It happened once to me but my checking account did not change in balance. But this is good to know if it ever happens again!

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2419867]You should get a forum membership so that you can send and receive private messages, guys are not going to post a lot of details about places to stay because they do not want all the lurkers to see it and there be one dumbass who does some stupid shit at the place and ruins it for everyone.[/QUOTE]Agree. It only took one monger to screw it up for the rest of you LOL. I will share experiences but not contacts or hotel info. Unless I personally know the guy.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2419784]Sounds like you had a great time there, well done! I'm surprised you only paid 35 k for the room at the mansion. Last time I was there, they were asking for 85 dollars a night, I didn't have a reservation at the time and I already have a big Airbnb apartment, so I just paid the 50 K entrance fee to the bar.

My only complaint about the mansion are the rooms, they are too basic, but I do love the mirrors though. I wish they have better rooms, I know lots of people are happy to pay 50 dollar extra for an upgraded room.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2419873]I think he is talking about a Mansion downtown, not the one in Poblado where gringos stay. The one in Poblado does not have four floors, and there is no park you can look down on.[/QUOTE]For sure he is talking about Hotel Mansion downtown on Carrera 43 just northeast of Calle 53 across from Parque del Periodista, Periodista park is a hangout for the local Medellin bohemian crowd, hence his reference to stoners. I have not made it down there yet but it is on my list for next trip. Here is a good Youtube video showing a lively night in Periodista park. This youtube video maker has made some great videos of Medellin from Plaza Botero to Parque Lleras, and some videos showing the talent around the clocktower in Cartagena. I should mention that she does not actually get to Periodista park until about 2:34 in the video.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojQhS9FodCs[/URL]

Awesome trip once again. From RTFF and experiencing Medellin here is what I can tell another newbie. You're going to have to go out there and experiment to see what works for you. And this is true about everything including places to stay, chicas, and even restaurants. I went to many places suggested on here that I just didn't like. Not because they weren't good, but because they weren't for me. On this trip all of my girls came from Facebook, Tinder, and SA. I will spare you the details of every single chick because then this post would take a whole page to write out. I enjoyed myself and only had a few bad meet ups. If you are a guy that hates loud music then don't visit Gustos in Lleras. By the time I left there I had a headache and tinnitus. Another night I stopped by the Mansion in Poblado to see if there was any talent there. No talent and super loud. This was around 11 at night and a girl there told me to come back at 2 am for more action. Well I'm asleep by that time lady LOL. One thing I cannot stand is loud music and trying to talk to chicks while having to yell. Another reason I don't like the strip clubs too much. I did not have time to visit Centro but there WILL be a next time. Did some sightseeing and rode the metro and cable. Some tips mentioned many times before.

1) Try to learn the language. Knowing Spanish went a long way for me during this trip. I can absolutely say for sure that I would not have had the awesome experiences that I had without knowing some Spanish.

2) Use the ATMs for the best rates.

3) Be aware of your surroundings and don't act a fool in public. If you're a guy that acts up when he drinks, you better check yourself.

4) Explore everything the city has to offer and ask locals for they're opinion. By the way I asked about the whole shorts thing to many of the locals. They said that Colombians wear shorts and it's not a gringo thing. Maybe in Poblado it's more common than the other areas. In Santa Fe mall there were lots of short wearing folks.

The mall had lots of fine tail to be had. I prefer the semi pros for whatever reason. I cannot do the bang 10 girls in 10 hours in Centro. My body can only handle 2 nuts daily max. Got a few numbers for the next time. The SA chicks were something else. I am posting a whole separate review of my thoughts on that site. The Facebook and Tinder girls were hit or miss but I had so many lined up it didn't matter. Some for 150 k and some asking for 250 K. Some had bad hygiene and others were so spotless I had my tongue jammed up in their assholes. And please no lecturing here LOL. I mean if a guy wants to eat pussy while on the period let him be. Quit judging on here. Some of these girls were so dirt poor they were shooting messages everyday for business. I carry around Clorox wipes for the counters and one barrio girl had never seen anything like that. She begged me to give them to her. Not a chance! The Angie Munoz chick. Well what can I say that has not been said before? Top notch service and super lovely. Made a video with her and she was super cool. Till next time.

[QUOTE=Uthred;2419892] others were so spotless I had my tongue jammed up in their assholes. And please no lecturing here LOL. [/QUOTE]Back when AIDS became a national scare and people did not understand it and thought you could catch it off a toilet seat, the government decided to put the Surgeon General on TV for a question and answer session. The Surgeon General at the time was named C. Everett Koop, a straight laced outspoken conservative christian (of the variety that do not believe in sex outside of marriage) and vice admiral out of the Navy (photo below). So here this straight lace guy is on TV answering all types of sexual questions (this was entertaining in itself). "Can you get AIDS from kissing?" "Can you get aids from oral sex on a penis?" "Can you get AIDS from oral sex on a vagina?" these questions he answered without hesitation. Then someone asked "Can you get AIDS from oral to anal?" The vice admiral paused, swallowed hard, and said "If you don't get AIDS that might be the last thing you need to worry about". P.S. C. Everett Koop was the father of Safe Sex

I wasn't lecturing you, I was just telling a story.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2419889]For sure he is talking about Hotel Mansion downtown on Carrera 43 just northeast of Calle 53 across from Parque del Periodista, Periodista park is a hangout for the local Medellin bohemian crowd, hence his reference to stoners. I have not made it down there yet but it is on my list for next trip. Here is a good Youtube video showing a lively night in Periodista park. This youtube video maker has made some great videos of Medellin from Plaza Botero to Parque Lleras, and some videos showing the talent around the clocktower in Cartagena. I should mention that she does not actually get to Periodista park until about 2:34 in the video.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojQhS9FodCs[/URL][/QUOTE]Didn't someone report that he got a warning having a beer here recently? It is a very small place and is darker in person.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2419863]There last week and there are 4. LOL. Add to your list Dharma massage. There is a veritable 8+/10 there, I will withhold the name, she is a fine masseuse, and a great looker to boot. She is a dancer and does this as her supporting gig. My order if prioritizing the massages is 1) Zen, 2) dharma 3) Om and 4) Garage. They are all around 90-110 range for the hour of legit massage with about 60 extra if you got additional services ie a Handjob. But unless you just got off the plane and want a release, there are better ways to release in Medellin. LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I love a good massage, I will try the top three places and report back. I will definitely not waste my load on a handjob at a massage place in Medellin, there are infinitely better way to deposit my load in Medellin.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2419889]For sure he is talking about Hotel Mansion downtown on Carrera 43 just northeast of Calle 53 across from Parque del Periodista, Periodista park is a hangout for the local Medellin bohemian crowd, hence his reference to stoners. I have not made it down there yet but it is on my list for next trip. Here is a good Youtube video showing a lively night in Periodista park. This youtube video maker has made some great videos of Medellin from Plaza Botero to Parque Lleras, and some videos showing the talent around the clocktower in Cartagena. I should mention that she does not actually get to Periodista park until about 2:34 in the video.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojQhS9FodCs[/URL][/QUOTE]Man,

I just took a glance of the video, I can't believe it is Medellin. The male and female ratio depicted in the video is as bad as the west coast of the states. On a good Thursday night, Gusto's ratio can reach 7/1, seven chicas per guy.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2419918]Didn't someone report that he got a warning having a beer here recently? It is a very small place and is darker in person.[/QUOTE]Highly unlikely you would get a warning for having a beer here when literally everyone in the park is getting high on weed or cocaine and whatever else they use down here.

Hello everyone!

While I know people enjoy different things. I personally enjoy cannabis alongside sex. Is cannabis use acceptable in Medellin or is it considered shady? I keep hearing about priodista, is this a good place to pick up chicks who are also into that?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2419908]............ "Can you get AIDS from oral to anal?" The vice admiral paused, swallowed hard, and said "If you don't get AIDS that might be the last thing you need to worry about". P.S. C. Everett Koop was the father of Safe Sex............[/QUOTE]C. Everett Koop, American, Surgeon General under Ronald Reagan. Need I say more? US elite are known for moralizing in public to mask dark deeds done in private. I don't take them seriously.

I've read, repeatedly, Medellin is best served for a week or more. I'm a "vet" of Tijuana. Tijuana takes about 12 hours (all told) to get to from my current locale. So MDE will actually be closer. I'm not concerned about travel time. But if I'm flying down Friday morning and flying home Monday afternoon, is that enough time for a first time MDE visitor? Generally, I'm more of a bar guy. So three days of casas and three nights of bars. Will that give me a good enough intro to MDE? I'd much prefer a lengthier stay and likely will do so over the summer. But I'm thinking of a short trip in the upcoming months.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2419918]Didn't someone report that he got a warning having a beer here recently? It is a very small place and is darker in person.[/QUOTE]That may have been me telling about a Sunday evening encounter with a policemen there. It was meant to relay the politeness and common sense of this particular cop vs a perception of bribe taking belligerent Colombian cops. Periodista is normally a drinking allowed and just about everything else too. A year ago, they banned the trans from there for causing problems, not sure if that's still the case. Mostly live and let live atmosphere but I did see a "park security" kick a gum seller unmercifully while the guy was either sleeping or passed out one evening. I've heard Colombians refer to it as an open minded park and it seems to have all types hanging out there. Sometimes it appears to have too many low life types especially late night and the taxistas also seem questionable along the park. I always walk down a few blocks to catch a taxi on the main street.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2419908]...Then someone asked "Can you get AIDS from oral to anal?" The vice admiral paused, swallowed hard, and said "If you don't get AIDS that might be the last thing you need to worry about". P.S. C. Everett Koop was the father of Safe Sex

I wasn't lecturing you, I was just telling a story.[/QUOTE]LOL roger that. It's just annoying when someone posts a review and you have 10 other people telling them you should do this and not do that. Like JB said, you should let me do what makes me happy.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2419918]Didn't someone report that he got a warning having a beer here recently? It is a very small place and is darker in person.[/QUOTE]I thought that it was Parque Lleras where they got the warning. Either way this is another place I have been wanting to check out but just haven't made it there yet.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2419908]Back when AIDS became a national scare and people did not understand it and thought you could catch it off a toilet seat, the government decided to put the Surgeon General on TV for a question and answer session. The Surgeon General at the time was named C. Everett Koop, a straight laced outspoken conservative christian (of the variety that do not believe in sex outside of marriage) and vice admiral out of the Navy (photo below). So here this straight lace guy is on TV answering all types of sexual questions (this was entertaining in itself). "Can you get AIDS from kissing?" "Can you get aids from oral sex on a penis?" "Can you get AIDS from oral sex on a vagina?" these questions he answered without hesitation. Then someone asked "Can you get AIDS from oral to anal?" The vice admiral paused, swallowed hard, and said "If you don't get AIDS that might be the last thing you need to worry about". P.S. C. Everett Koop was the father of Safe Sex

I wasn't lecturing you, I was just telling a story.[/QUOTE]I love the government and safe sex using latex condoms: [URL]https://www.reliasmedia.com/articles/77321-failure-to-detect-latex-allergy-leads-to-death-4-7m-verdict[/URL].

[URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5356959/[/URL]

"Based on these data, the current prevalence of latex allergy and sensitization among healthcare workers worldwide are 9. 7% and 12.4%, respectively. ".

Maybe we should call Koop the father of latex allergies.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2419486]"Guys need to stop." Isn't giving your opinion, it's telling everyone how they are required to behave, according to you.

You are so mistaken about the women in Colombia. There are plenty who just want to get paid and never see you again. There are also plenty who will happily spend the day with you, for nothing more than a cheap meal. There are plenty who, for what guys are paying for an hour who'll spend 10-12 hours, give as much sex as you can handle and leave you with a smile. There are girls who will, if you're there over Christmas, invite you to spend the day with their family. There are girls who will.

Some of us enjoy more than just beating in some guts. If it's okay with you, I for one will continue to do things the way I want.[/QUOTE]Yes you are right. Many different girls regardless of where you are in this world. But none of that your speaking about comes free. It takes a lot of wasted time and money sifting through all the BS until you find the gems. I'll just take each day at a time and if I stumble upon a gem then great but I'm not going go about my day seeking that. This is my second time here although I've been to this country a half dozen times. Plan on going to Brazil soon. I personally am not looking for no amigas because the begging never fucking stops. But what more can you expect from them? Great if some of you get to meet their family. Probably makes ya'll feel extra special but the way I see things is you will always be nothing more than un cajero. Maybe less if you get close to these poblado or Facebook girls who consistently make a months worth of Colombian salary for one or two dates but regular non pro women like you guys call them are always fucking needy. That's just how it is regardless of what country you frequent. And it's not that I don't care or I look down on them I have just tired of the neediness and the games these bitches be playing. So at this point in my life I'm just worried about beating in guts. They can save the games for the rest of ya'll. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

Went walking around the Botero circuit with the fellas last night about 9 before coming in. There were some good ones out. My buddy wanted one but she would not suck his dick without a condom. He found another and he was in the house for 40 K. Me and the other BM were heading towards the metro and the chick on one of those candy carts started eyeing me. I blew her a kiss and she motioned that we could go together. She didn't look all that good and I think she was 32 years old from Venezuela. She came over to talk to me and said we could go to a room for 30 K. I took her whatsapp and told her maybe another day.

Took the metro back to Laureles and walking down La 70 there was a double t-bone accident at one of the intersections. Taxi, car, motorbike. Looked like the taxi must have blown the light and the car and motorbike slammed into his front and rear passenger side.

I forgot that a friend of mine from Venezuela that comes to visit me in the States was in town. Her sister came up from Chile to get that bullshit plastic surgery and she came here to help her recover. She said that clinic was full of chicks from all over this side of the planet. So she endee up coming over to stay last night and we went out on La for about an hour.

San Peter does not play about the ID thing. When my buddies came over yesterday, they let one in because he had a copy of his passport. My buddy that lives here they would not let in because he only had his California drivers license.

Yesterday about 6 we ended up in one of my favorite non-descript strip / fuck clubs. I never knew the name but now I think it is Ovo, because there was a chick working the bar and she had Ovo on a red uniform shirt. She came over to our table bringing the water we ordered and she had a huge ass. I am a hips and ass man. I was actually able to rest my arm on the top of her ass. I told her that I wanted to fuck her.

The other BM that I was with thought her ass was fake, but grabbing on it, I knew it to be real. We went to the room. Total GFE. She was 27 from Caracas. The tits turned out to be fake and looked like somebody put 2 footballs in her chest sideways. I kept telling her how awful that shit was and it was better to be natural. She tried to get a condom to suck my dick, but I wasn't having any of that.

After we finished fucking we just layed there talking until somebody finally came and knocked on the door. We took a shower and I gave her the 70 K then left out. My buddy asked me what was taking so long. I said it was quick to me. He said he took a chick after I left, showered, fucked her, showered again, and came back out and I was still in there. His chick was a superstar and worked the hell out of that pole (dancing).

[QUOTE=Uthred;2420034]
I thought that it was Parque Lleras where they got the warning. [/QUOTE]Parque Lleras was mentioned subsequently. It was the post that started the discussion. I am familiar with the area but maybe I remember wrong.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2420010]But if I'm flying down Friday morning and flying home Monday afternoon, is that enough time for a first time MDE visitor?[/QUOTE]I have never been in Medellin more than 3 days at a time. I got here on the 2nd and I am leaving on the 5th. But I do not only come here. I go all over Colombia.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2420010]I've read, repeatedly, Medellin is best served for a week or more. I'm a "vet" of Tijuana. Tijuana takes about 12 hours (all told) to get to from my current locale. So MDE will actually be closer. I'm not concerned about travel time. But if I'm flying down Friday morning and flying home Monday afternoon, is that enough time for a first time MDE visitor? Generally, I'm more of a bar guy. So three days of casas and three nights of bars. Will that give me a good enough intro to MDE? I'd much prefer a lengthier stay and likely will do so over the summer. But I'm thinking of a short trip in the upcoming months.[/QUOTE]I am a "vet" of Tijuana as well, but no more as it is a fucking dump and here I am. And to answer your question, three days will be perfect for a first time visit if that's all the time you have. What you need to imagine is that you will have at a minimum of 10 times as many bars to visit, let alone all the casa's all over town. And if you can imagine the street scene on Cahuilla behind Adelitas and Hong Kong, think in terms of about 25 times that size in El Centro. So your problem (and it's not a bad one) is going to be deciding where the hell to go with such a short amount of time as there are so many venues. Study this thread and you should get a good idea of which places might appeal to you.

Oh, and I need to warn you that you won't need to worry about anyone knocking on the door after twenty minutes into a session, or girls quoting prices that only include taking off their pants to get banged.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2420091]I have never been in Medellin more than 3 days at a time. I got here on the 2nd and I am leaving on the 5th. But I do not only come here. I go all over Colombia.[/QUOTE]That is talking about you, not a first time visitor nor does anything to answer his question.

3 days is not much time to learn much about or get comfortable with any particular scene be it the casas, Centro street scene, FB girls, etc. But it is plenty of time to have some fun and gain some memories. Half your budget will be spent on your airfare. If you are fine with that then my recommendation is "Come On Down!

Yes and no, depends what do you expect. If you are thinking of going to a single "club" like HK or adelitas then your options are limited in MDE since this is not how is done here. While there is places like this strip clubs and casas. You will be limited to a hand full of girls that may appeal to you. Now if your idea is some good old fashion sport fucking you can go to el centro, in my opinion I have never found a girl there that appeals to me and trust me I am not looking for 9's or 10's. Best I have seen there is a 7. Most of the best low mile action in MDE get done on line via FB usually. I would recommend to stay at the mansion to get your networking action in place and get a feel of the land. While I am not the biggest fan of the mansion it definitely helps for new people to see how things work. There is not really a big "bar" scene in MDE where there is girls for take out. There is some here and there but there is no bars that are filled with decent working girls. Besides Gusto which I DO NOT recommend unless you want to over pay and be disappointed with service.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2420010]I've read, repeatedly, Medellin is best served for a week or more. I'm a "vet" of Tijuana. Tijuana takes about 12 hours (all told) to get to from my current locale. So MDE will actually be closer. I'm not concerned about travel time. But if I'm flying down Friday morning and flying home Monday afternoon, is that enough time for a first time MDE visitor? Generally, I'm more of a bar guy. So three days of casas and three nights of bars. Will that give me a good enough intro to MDE? I'd much prefer a lengthier stay and likely will do so over the summer. But I'm thinking of a short trip in the upcoming months.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zhagolo52;2420272]Yes and no, depends what do you expect. If you are thinking of going to a single "club" like HK or adelitas then your options are limited in MDE since this is not how is done here. While there is places like this strip clubs and casas. You will be limited to a hand full of girls that may appeal to you. Now if your idea is some good old fashion sport fucking you can go to el centro, in my opinion I have never found a girl there that appeals to me and trust me I am not looking for 9's or 10's. Best I have seen there is a 7. Most of the best low mile action in MDE get done on line via FB usually. I would recommend to stay at the mansion to get your networking action in place and get a feel of the land. While I am not the biggest fan of the mansion it definitely helps for new people to see how things work. There is not really a big "bar" scene in MDE where there is girls for take out. There is some here and there but there is no bars that are filled with decent working girls. Besides Gusto which I DO NOT recommend unless you want to over pay and be disappointed with service.[/QUOTE]There are all kinds of bars along the backside of the Veracruz Church, perhaps at least 10 or more, with girls available to be taken upstairs in EL Centro, along with numerous bars in the Avenida La Grief area with girls available. And there are plenty of decent girls to be found. And not to mention the numerous Clubs around town which are similar to a HK or Adelitas on a smaller scale which have been identified and mentioned in this thread. I don't think staying at the Mansion, the one in Poblado, is the way for this Tijuana vet to go. With three days, I would recommend he stays in El Centro. More action including the Casa's within walking distance versus having to travel back and forth from El Poblado.

I left San Peter in Laureles at 11:05 and took Didi to the San Diego office of Ombuses. 5000 pesos. Bus left at 11:32 and went over to the stop in front of San Diego Mall. It is right across the street from where they drop you off coming from the airport. We waited there a while and left for the airport at 11:43. Arrived at the airport at 12:09 and paid the 10,500 when I got off the bus.

So total from San Peter to airport using taxi and bus combo 15,500 pesos and 1 hour 4 minutes. The lady at the front desk at the hotel offered me an 80,000 peso taxi to the airport. For what?

I'm arriving tomorrow and had set up accommodations at Energy Living (through the company Nomad Guru) because 1) the place is chica friendly 2) I could use my chase points and 3) it seemed like a good place to ease in to Medellin since I've never been. Anyway, I just got a message from the host saying that the apartment was extensively damaged by the last tenant and I can't use it (literally this morning). They offered me accommodations in two of their other properties 1) a mansion in Las Palmas and 2) an apartment in Provenza [URL]https://es-l.airbnb.com/rooms/41801471[/URL] and [URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/41732051.[/URL] The house especially is a lot fancier than Energy living but they both have no sex tourism in their airbnb rules. They also offered me my money back. So, does anyone have any experience with either place and know if they enforce their rules? Alternatively does anyone have any last minute hotel or building recommendations that might still have rooms free at this point? Thanks.

A while back someone recommended a cafe for lunch round the corner from new life, I went there today, 10 k for a very good meal. I also recommend.

Tried Loutron, the set up is cool but quality doesn't match, 15 girls but most older, very disappointing, this is midweek early afternoon. Better quality in the massage place I tried in Laureles first day at half the price. There is a 20 k viewing fee, prices there are 290 k 30 minutes for 320 k 1 hour, this is massage, CBJ and sex one time.

More girls here in Colombia expect CBJ or 1 shot than anywhere I've been and plenty don't budge so most people must be paying for that. It takes some work but on tinder, Facebook or seeking can find a few hours of unrestricted sex so DFK, BBBJ and multiple pops, 200-300 k, 300 k being the norm for the better looking ones from my experience so far.

[QUOTE=Recondite;2420443]I'm arriving tomorrow and had set up accommodations at Energy Living (through the company Nomad Guru) because 1) the place is chica friendly 2) I could use my chase points and 3) it seemed like a good place to ease in to Medellin since I've never been. Anyway, I just got a message from the host saying that the apartment was extensively damaged by the last tenant and I can't use it (literally this morning). They offered me accommodations in two of their other properties 1) a mansion in Las Palmas and 2) an apartment in Provenza [URL]https://es-l.airbnb.com/rooms/41801471[/URL] and [URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/41732051.[/URL] The house especially is a lot fancier than Energy living but they both have no sex tourism in their airbnb rules. They also offered me my money back. So, does anyone have any experience with either place and know if they enforce their rules? Alternatively does anyone have any last minute hotel or building recommendations that might still have rooms free at this point? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Could be a scam if they ask the exchange outside of airbnb.

[QUOTE=Uthred;2420034]

I thought that it was Parque Lleras where they got the warning. Either way this is another place I have been wanting to check out but just haven't made it there yet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2420089]Parque Lleras was mentioned subsequently. It was the post that started the discussion. I am familiar with the area but maybe I remember wrong.[/QUOTE]Another poster put this straight a while back but here we are again so I am going to post a source to verify. There was a period of time when it was illegal to drink in the parks in Medellin, a law that was probably passed within the past two years by the new president, but the law was subsequently ruled unconstitutional by the court last summer. Anyone who likes visiting Colombia will like the slightly doctored photo at the beginning of the story.

[URL]https://colombiareports.com/court-squashes-colombias-ban-on-smoking-pot-and-drinking-beer-in-public/[/URL]

Nothing really to report that hasn't been reported. Was in Medellin recently and got my favorite booty pics from girl in Amiga Sexy for 50 k and Club Maracaibo for 70 k 30 minutes each.

[QUOTE=Recondite;2420443]I'm arriving tomorrow and had set up accommodations at Energy Living... Alternatively does anyone have any last minute hotel or building recommendations that might still have rooms free at this point? Thanks.[/QUOTE]You got dealt a bad hand, that sucks. Check your PM, I sent you a message with some recommendations. One apartment available I know is chica friendly and near Energy Living but not in Energy living. If you take that apartment, send me a message and I can give you a lay of the land and the neighborhood.

[QUOTE=Recondite;2420443]I'm arriving tomorrow and had set up accommodations at Energy Living (through the company Nomad Guru) because 1) the place is chica friendly 2) I could use my chase points and 3) it seemed like a good place to ease in to Medellin since I've never been. Anyway, I just got a message from the host saying that the apartment was extensively damaged by the last tenant and I can't use it (literally this morning). They offered me accommodations in two of their other properties 1) a mansion in Las Palmas and 2) an apartment in Provenza [URL]https://es-l.airbnb.com/rooms/41801471[/URL] and [URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/41732051.[/URL] The house especially is a lot fancier than Energy living but they both have no sex tourism in their airbnb rules. They also offered me my money back. So, does anyone have any experience with either place and know if they enforce their rules? Alternatively does anyone have any last minute hotel or building recommendations that might still have rooms free at this point? Thanks.[/QUOTE]You should find out if the property they offered you in Las Palmas has a security guard, if not, who would be there to possibly enforce the rules.

I know the Corona Virus has been affecting mongering in both Thailand and the Philippines, and suspect as a result of this, we will see an increase in Mongers here in Medellin within the next few months. I had a four week trip planned for the middle of the month to Asia visiting four countries including the Philippines and Thailand and just pulled the plug on it. I had flights thru six different countries and would not want to be quarantined because somebody coming off a flight had a temperature or other symptoms.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2420472]Could be a scam if they ask the exchange outside of airbnb.[/QUOTE]I got Chase to call them and get my money back. Luckily after searching the forum I was able to find a couple of girl friendly places to stay. They are a lot cheaper but unfortunately no pool / gym / suite setup. The most important thing is that girls can come over without any issues.

[QUOTE=MtVadose;2420469]A while back someone recommended a cafe for lunch round the corner from new life, I went there today, 10 k for a very good meal. I also recommend.

Tried Loutron, the set up is cool but quality doesn't match, 15 girls but most older, very disappointing, this is midweek early afternoon. Better quality in the massage place I tried in Laureles first day at half the price. There is a 20 k viewing fee, prices there are 290 k 30 minutes for 320 k 1 hour, this is massage, CBJ and sex one time.

More girls here in Colombia expect CBJ or 1 shot than anywhere I've been and plenty don't budge so most people must be paying for that. It takes some work but on tinder, Facebook or seeking can find a few hours of unrestricted sex so DFK, BBBJ and multiple pops, 200-300 k, 300 k being the norm for the better looking ones from my experience so far.[/QUOTE]You have to keep negotiating. I've only had like 3 girls out of about 50 stick to the 300 k range which I refuse to pay unless it's for someone unique for multiple hours. I've even had all night or all day for 300 k. Guys can do what they want with their money but some are just fucking up the game and allowing these girls to charge 1st world prices. No ***** were in Colombia where most people make 300 k a month.

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[QUOTE=MtVadose;2420469]A while back someone recommended a cafe for lunch round the corner from new life, I went there today, 10 k for a very good meal. I also recommend.

Tried Loutron, the set up is cool but quality doesn't match, 15 girls but most older, very disappointing, this is midweek early afternoon. Better quality in the massage place I tried in Laureles first day at half the price. There is a 20 k viewing fee, prices there are 290 k 30 minutes for 320 k 1 hour, this is massage, CBJ and sex one time.

More girls here in Colombia expect CBJ or 1 shot than anywhere I've been and plenty don't budge so most people must be paying for that. It takes some work but on tinder, Facebook or seeking can find a few hours of unrestricted sex so DFK, BBBJ and multiple pops, 200-300 k, 300 k being the norm for the better looking ones from my experience so far.[/QUOTE]Casa is the only place where you can't negotiate service. The only time that I didn't get BBBJ and DFK in Medellin is in a casa. In general, BBBJ and DFK is standard for fb girls and girls from the mansion, but you MUST explicitly make the service request before you agree to the session. I consider BBBJ and DFK basic service in Medellin, and I typically pay 150 k + taxi for them. Any extra service will cost you more, but you should never paid more than 300 k + taxi for a fb or mansion girl. Gusto is a different story, to enjoy gusto, you need to have a party mindset, and don't mind spending a few hundred extra dollars for the night. Gusto girls are hot and crazy, they are a little on the older side, but you can still find some 20-21 year-olds there. With gusto girls, you either need to possess hard negotiation skills or have a higher alcohol and drug tolerance than they do. If done right, gusto is a great place to party.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2420091]I have never been in Medellin more than 3 days at a time. I got here on the 2nd and I am leaving on the 5th. But I do not only come here. I go all over Colombia.[/QUOTE]I have never stayed in Medellin for less than 2 weeks in each of my visits. For me, there is no point of visiting Medellin for only 3 days. I live in hell, a. K. a northern California, every time after I return from Medellin, I'm always miserable and depressed for at least a week (the superior food in California doesn't help). For me, each miserable California day cancels a heavenly Medellin day, I'm looking for a net positive. I'm on my way to Medellin right now, I'm currently soaked by that kids going to Disney land feeling.

Thanks, Surfer. Very helpful. And very motivating. LOL.

Personally, I cannot complain about Tijuana. My worst experience was average. But I have a lot of patience. Haha I'm just looking for a new experience and I'm thinking Medellin fits the bill. Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2420104]I am a "vet" of Tijuana as well, but no more as it is a fucking dump and here I am. And to answer your question, three days will be perfect for a first time visit if that's all the time you have. What you need to imagine is that you will have at a minimum of 10 times as many bars to visit, let alone all the casa's all over town. And if you can imagine the street scene on Cahuilla behind Adelitas and Hong Kong, think in terms of about 25 times that size in El Centro. So your problem (and it's not a bad one) is going to be deciding where the hell to go with such a short amount of time as there are so many venues. Study this thread and you should get a good idea of which places might appeal to you.

Oh, and I need to warn you that you won't need to worry about anyone knocking on the door after twenty minutes into a session, or girls quoting prices that only include taking off their pants to get banged.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2420202]That is talking about you, not a first time visitor nor does anything to answer his question.

3 days is not much time to learn much about or get comfortable with any particular scene be it the casas, Centro street scene, FB girls, etc. But it is plenty of time to have some fun and gain some memories. Half your budget will be spent on your airfare. If you are fine with that then my recommendation is "Come On Down![/QUOTE]Yeah, airfare isn't cheap. And for this trip, I don't have a lot of flexibility on dates and times. So it'll run me about $700 RT. If my schedule would allow, I was going to try to use Viva Air. But I'll save that for next time when I can spend a day or so in Miami.

Thanks for the advice.

[QUOTE=Zhagolo52;2420272]Yes and no, depends what do you expect. If you are thinking of going to a single "club" like HK or adelitas then your options are limited in MDE since this is not how is done here. While there is places like this strip clubs and casas. You will be limited to a hand full of girls that may appeal to you. Now if your idea is some good old fashion sport fucking you can go to el centro, in my opinion I have never found a girl there that appeals to me and trust me I am not looking for 9's or 10's. Best I have seen there is a 7. Most of the best low mile action in MDE get done on line via FB usually. I would recommend to stay at the mansion to get your networking action in place and get a feel of the land. While I am not the biggest fan of the mansion it definitely helps for new people to see how things work. There is not really a big "bar" scene in MDE where there is girls for take out. There is some here and there but there is no bars that are filled with decent working girls. Besides Gusto which I DO NOT recommend unless you want to over pay and be disappointed with service.[/QUOTE]Great advice and that's my quandry. In Tijuana, I've grown fond of the HK game. I enjoy the parties with the hot chicas as much as the takeout. I've started a list of bars and I'm going to come up with a plan. But I've learned to just go with the flow, especially since I have no idea what to expect.

In my mind, I have four options: casas, bars, Centro and Lleras. (I'm not sure how Lleras differs from Centro. Quality?) I'm not usually a SG guy because I want more than the bare minimum mechanical act that usually follows. But I have had a few good sessions with SGs.

I guess my biggest concern is that the bars are scattered throughout the city. If I don't like the vibe of a place, I'd love to be able to walk a block to the next option.

Winding up this 30 day adventure. I spent the first 13 days in Lima, and will finish here in MDE with 17 days. Only a couple of days left, and here are some of my thoughts on MDE. I already did some trip reports on the Lima board.

I'm staying at the Hotel Botero which is right next to the bus stop at what I call ground zero that will take me to the airport for 10500 K. The hotel is good. Reasonable rates, and I have a nice big room. It is girl friendly if she has a ID if Colombian or a passport if she is a Vennie. The maids will get your clothes washed for almost nothing.

Except for spraining my ankle on the on the poor sidewalks in Centro it has been a good trip. Only small problem I had was while doing my bar hopping in Centro I did one night have a issue. I had 4 girls at my table, 3 of them were very good looking. I was dancing with two of them in a crowded spot on the dance floor. A local guy said to me (why do you have so many women. You have too much money. Where did you get it?) I told him in my limited Spanish that I worked for my money. At this point the girls pulled me away from him. About a minute later another local starts with me, but I did not understand his drunking speech. At this point I left the dance floor, and walked out. The girls of course all ran after me to get me back to the bar. I said good night, and I think I learned a lesson. Be careful you don't make the locals jealous of our ways.

I hit 4 different casa's with New Life the most times. I wonder why it bothers some posters here that there are a lot of Gringos in New Life. To me it is OK as I have someone to talk to while trying to remember the girls names or number.

As far as my hunting for girls to put in my rotation it has not been good. In Lima I had 2 that were GFE while in MDE I have not had any luck. Sure I have had some good sexo but not what I have had here in the past. I guess my age (74 this July) is not a help. I can dance all night and keep up with anybody but these girls like younger guys. Of course my money keeps me in deep with fine pussy.

All in all the only thing that does not make Lima my number one spot is the long flight compared to MDE.

I think my next trip will be to an island. I love to swim in warm clear water and hunt for fine pussy.

I wanted to take the bus from San Diego mall but my Didi driver told me that for 17 mil I could share an air-conditioned cab with another 3 people. I agreed because it was a hot day. The cab place somewhere near the San Diego bus station.

Time wise I think it was about the same. So, if the bus has an a / see, there is pretty much no difference.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2420395]I left San Peter in Laureles at 11:05 and took Didi to the San Diego office of Ombuses. 5000 pesos. Bus left at 11:32 and went over to the stop in front of San Diego Mall. It is right across the street from where they drop you off coming from the airport. We waited there a while and left for the airport at 11:43. Arrived at the airport at 12:09 and paid the 10,500 when I got off the bus.

So total from San Peter to airport using taxi and bus combo 15,500 pesos and 1 hour 4 minutes. The lady at the front desk at the hotel offered me an 80,000 peso taxi to the airport. For what?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2420537]You have to keep negotiating. I've only had like 3 girls out of about 50 stick to the 300 k range which I refuse to pay unless it's for someone unique for multiple hours. I've even had all night or all day for 300 k. Guys can do what they want with their money but some are just fucking up the game and allowing these girls to charge 1st world prices. No ***** were in Colombia where most people make 300 k a month.

Stop the Simping.[/QUOTE]Or maybe change your entire attitude.

You keep going on with "stop the simping", while paying 300 k for what is readily available at 150-200 k? And then complain others are screwing it up paying first world prices? Keep negotiating? If you had to keep negotiating to get that, you screwed up from the beginning.

BBBJ is readily available. It's not necessary to negotiate, or pay extra for it. Multiple hour sessions are readily available. There's no need to pay extra, unless you're in a casa or a strip club. Who wants to spend 3 hours in a room at Club Maracaibo? All day or night is not difficult to get for 150-200 k.

Best of all, getting all of the above is easier than getting the cashier to say "Welcome to McDonald's."

1. Stop thinking all women are bitches, putas, etc. They're people. Most are a helluva lot tougher than the tough guys here. They see things every week that would make you need a change of underwear.

2. It's not a dominance game. You're not auditioning for "The Apprentice." You're attempting to arrange a mutually beneficial social engagement. You're trying to get laid, she's trying to get paid. She's not passing up a weekend in the Maldives to be with you. She's giving up sitting at home watching TV. If she believes she'll enjoy your company more than The Simpsons, she'll be more receptive to your offer.

3. Don't be desperate. If the girl isn't enthusiastic, move along. Don't be nasty about it. Just leave her with "maybe another night" and go on to the next one. If you insist on having that girl, either the price is going up, or service is going down, often both.

4. Be nice. You're selling yourself. Most of the girls will go above and beyond for just a bit of respect. They don't get much of it from Colombian men. When some guy comes along, pays more, treats them better and let's them live the "Pretty Woman" fantasy for a few hours, many will respond.

5. Your life doesn't depend on getting a BBBJ in Medellin. Girls charge extra for it, because too many guys act like they're searching for the Holy Grail. If you're clean, if you're treating the girl like a person instead of a sex doll, most will do it without any fuss.

6. It's supposed to be fun. You get to spend a few hours with beautiful, young, naked Colombian women, for about the price of a cheap motel room back home. Why turn it into a chore?

BTW. The current minimum wage in Colombia is 877,803 COP plus a 102,854 COP public transit subsidy, monthly. Not 300 k.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2420613]I have never stayed in Medellin for less than 2 weeks in each of my visits. For me, there is no point of visiting Medellin for only 3 days. I live in hell, a. K. a northern California, every time after I return from Medellin, I'm always miserable and depressed for at least a week (the superior food in California doesn't help). For me, each miserable California day cancels a heavenly Medellin day, I'm looking for a net positive. I'm on my way to Medellin right now, I'm currently soaked by that kids going to Disney land feeling.[/QUOTE]I'm from Cali, lived in both parts. Why is it so miserable for you LOL. For me, the economy is such a downer. I know too many people that work just to put food on the table but can't do much of anything else.

New life. Busy in here early afternoon, 15 or so girls, a lot old, one I liked but decided to see other places. 3 k viewing fee for leaving.

Pamalas. Maybe 7 girls, all looked bad to me. 2 k viewing fee for leaving.

Club amigas sexy - 10 or so girls, 3 I would session. Paid 50 k half hour here and was happy with service and the girl. Good rooms and shower too.

Thank you very much for this post. It is spot on. I encourage guys, especially new guys, to follow it to the letter. I will significantly improve your experiences.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2420664]Or maybe change your entire attitude.

You keep going on with "stop the simping", while paying 300 k for what is readily available at 150-200 k? And then complain others are screwing it up paying first world prices? Keep negotiating? If you had to keep negotiating to get that, you screwed up from the beginning.

BBBJ is readily available. It's not necessary to negotiate, or pay extra for it. Multiple hour sessions are readily available. There's no need to pay extra, unless you're in a casa or a strip club. Who wants to spend 3 hours in a room at Club Maracaibo? All day or night is not difficult to get for 150-200 k.

Best of all, getting all of the above is easier than getting the cashier to say "Welcome to McDonald's."

1. Stop thinking all women are bitches, putas, etc. They're people. Most are a helluva lot tougher than the tough guys here. They see things every week that would make you need a change of underwear.

2. It's not a dominance game. You're not auditioning for "The Apprentice." You're attempting to arrange a mutually beneficial social engagement. You're trying to get laid, she's trying to get paid. She's not passing up a weekend in the Maldives to be with you. She's giving up sitting at home watching TV. If she believes she'll enjoy your company more than The Simpsons, she'll be more receptive to your offer..[/QUOTE]

Very well put! This list should be handed to every gringo at the airport or any port of entry. But then they drink and F it all up.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2420664]Or maybe change your entire attitude.

You keep going on with "stop the simping", while paying 300 k for what is readily available at 150-200 k? And then complain others are screwing it up paying first world prices? Keep negotiating? If you had to keep negotiating to get that, you screwed up from the beginning.

BBBJ is readily available. It's not necessary to negotiate, or pay extra for it. Multiple hour sessions are readily available. There's no need to pay extra, unless you're in a casa or a strip club. Who wants to spend 3 hours in a room at Club Maracaibo? All day or night is not difficult to get for 150-200 k.

Best of all, getting all of the above is easier than getting the cashier to say "Welcome to McDonald's."

1. Stop thinking all women are bitches, putas, etc. They're people. Most are a helluva lot tougher than the tough guys here. They see things every week that would make you need a change of underwear.

2. It's not a dominance game. You're not auditioning for "The Apprentice." You're attempting to arrange a mutually beneficial social engagement. You're trying to get laid, she's trying to get paid. She's not passing up a weekend in the Maldives to be with you. She's giving up sitting at home watching TV. If she believes she'll enjoy your company more than The Simpsons, she'll be more receptive to your offer.

3. Don't be desperate. If the girl isn't enthusiastic, move along. Don't be nasty about it. Just leave her with "maybe another night" and go on to the next one. If you insist on having that girl, either the price is going up, or service is going down, often both.

4. Be nice. You're selling yourself. Most of the girls will go above and beyond for just a bit of respect. They don't get much of it from Colombian men. When some guy comes along, pays more, treats them better and let's them live the "Pretty Woman" fantasy for a few hours, many will respond.

5. Your life doesn't depend on getting a BBBJ in Medellin. Girls charge extra for it, because too many guys act like they're searching for the Holy Grail. If you're clean, if you're treating the girl like a person instead of a sex doll, most will do it without any fuss.

6. It's supposed to be fun. You get to spend a few hours with beautiful, young, naked Colombian women, for about the price of a cheap motel room back home. Why turn it into a chore?

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[QUOTE=SJobs;2420613]I have never stayed in Medellin for less than 2 weeks in each of my visits. For me, there is no point of visiting Medellin for only 3 days. I live in hell, a. K. a northern California, every time after I return from Medellin, I'm always miserable and depressed for at least a week (the superior food in California doesn't help). For me, each miserable California day cancels a heavenly Medellin day, I'm looking for a net positive. I'm on my way to Medellin right now, I'm currently soaked by that kids going to Disney land feeling.[/QUOTE]I could never stay less 2 weeks in Colombia, or maybe at least 10 days in Colombia. However for the guys that live "close" , like Miami, it probably makes sense to go for couple days. Last time I was there 6 weeks and didn't get bored one day.

[QUOTE=Kelso1;2420644]
As far as my hunting for girls to put in my rotation it has not been good. In Lima I had 2 that were GFE while in MDE I have not had any luck. Sure I have had some good sexo but not what I have had here in the past. I guess my age (74 this July) is not a help. I can dance all night and keep up with anybody but these girls like younger guys. Of course my money keeps me in deep with fine pussy.

All in all the only thing that does not make Lima my number one spot is the long flight compared to MDE.

I think my next trip will be to an island. I love to swim in warm clear water and hunt for fine pussy.[/QUOTE]You should get the Monger of the Year award. I don't know how old people are on here but if you're still dancing away and keeping up with the young guys at 74 you should be proud. That's awesome and I commend you for living life to the fullest the way you want. I see guys turn to dust after a specific age number like it really matters. Anyway man you give me hope LOL. Monger on!

[QUOTE=Kelso1;2420644]Winding up this 30 day adventure. I spent the first 13 days in Lima, and will finish here in MDE with 17 days. Only a couple of days left, and here are some of my thoughts on MDE. I already did some trip reports on the Lima board.

I'm staying at the Hotel Botero which is right next to the bus stop at what I call ground zero that will take me to the airport for 10500 K. The hotel is good. Reasonable rates, and I have a nice big room. It is girl friendly if she has a ID if Colombian or a passport if she is a Vennie. The maids will get your clothes washed for almost nothing.

Except for spraining my ankle on the on the poor sidewalks in Centro it has been a good trip. Only small problem I had was while doing my bar hopping in Centro I did one night have a issue. I had 4 girls at my table, 3 of them were very good looking. I was dancing with two of them in a crowded spot on the dance floor. A local guy said to me (why do you have so many women. You have too much money. Where did you get it?) I told him in my limited Spanish that I worked for my money. At this point the girls pulled me away from him. About a minute later another local starts with me, but I did not understand his drunking speech. At this point I left the dance floor, and walked out. The girls of course all ran after me to get me back to the bar. I said good night, and I think I learned a lesson. Be careful you don't make the locals jealous of our ways.[/QUOTE]Your a true inspiration brother! Loved your post about the Colombian dude trying to grill you? Did this happen during the day or night? I don't speak Spanish well, am I crazy to want to hit the bars of Centro up at night alone? From what I have read, it gets very sketchy at night and I would have no business there, but after reading your post I am intrigued. I partied in Parque Lleras for a week and it was fun, but pricey. I am definitely going to try Laurelas out on my next trip. Still in my 30's so to hear about your adventures is fucking awesome. Reminds me of the that movie, "The Mule" LOL.

If you want to be certain that the girl is 18 or older should you just stick to casas and the strip clubs. Since I don't know if the ID is fake or not, is using tinder and SA risky since a underage girl coming to your hotel without your knowledge is not something we all want, or is it risky at casas too. Could those girls also have underage girls and we wouldn't know. Could a veteran explain if Medellin is the wild wild west when it comes to these things. Do these casa owners do what they want.

73 and going strong! This is amazing. I have now evidence that not even half of my mongering life is behind me. Just need to learn what is necessary to stay both mentally and physically healthy like you. Is it hard? How much is it your genes vs. Lifestyle? Please advise those who wish to "hunt for fine pussy" when they are 70+!

[QUOTE=Kelso1;2420644]As far as my hunting for girls to put in my rotation it has not been good. In Lima I had 2 that were GFE while in MDE I have not had any luck. Sure I have had some good sexo but not what I have had here in the past. I guess my age (74 this July) is not a help. I can dance all night and keep up with anybody but these girls like younger guys. Of course my money keeps me in deep with fine pussy.

All in all the only thing that does not make Lima my number one spot is the long flight compared to MDE.

I think my next trip will be to an island. I love to swim in warm clear water and hunt for fine pussy.[/QUOTE]

I had a mediocre experience with Angie Muñoz, who is so highly rated on here. She had a cold or gripe when she came and did not tell me before hand (not cool in my book). I probably should have just paid her taxi and sent her away but I went ahead anyway. By the standards of other destinations like Costa Rica, the session was not bad but it certainly did not live up to her reputation. I certainly didn't ask for or get kisses and you could tell she was feeling the cold. I only had one polvo but I kind of wanted her to leave afterwards anyway since she was sick. I also asked about anal and she confirmed that she makes her decisions based on size. I'm fairly well endowed so she didn't want to try with me (which I had no problem with). Anyway for anyone thinking of a cita with her I'd stay away for the next week or so. Given what I've read and my conversations with others I'm sure she is normally fantastic. If anyone has any suggestions for a freaky more PSE girl (anal, deepthraot etc) please PM me. I've got some ideas from talking to FB girls and looking at the Spanish language sites but would certainly appreciate some suggestions.

[QUOTE=Kelso1;2420644]Winding up this 30 day adventure. I spent the first 13 days in Lima, and will finish here in MDE. age (74 this July). I can dance all night and keep up with anybody but these girls like younger guys. Of course my money keeps me in deep with fine pussy.
I think my next trip will be to an island. I love to swim in warm clear water and hunt for fine pussy[/QUOTE]Hello Mr. Kelso,

What a pleasure to read your fine report. You have ten years on me and maybe I will still be mongering in 10 years because that has been my hobby for the last 20 years. I think I will follow suit and take some bachata or salsa lessons at a nearby ballroom in Sacramento, California until I retire in Philippines in 2022. I know Old Kool is around my age and he still dances with the fine ladies of the Dominican Republic where I also go 2 - 3 times a year. I like Islands, too (obviously) but warm clear water is not always a good mongering destination except maybe Sosua but the ladies there are overly aggressive IMO. And clear water is also not easy to find because third world countries are notorious pollutors. You might want to try Boracay in Philippines or elsewhere there if you like the slimmer Asian girls who speak English. I'm sure other mongers have recommendations, too. Maybe I will try Lima. Macchu Pichu is on the bucket list. Cheers.

Hola all ,

So of course, I left my ATM card in the machine and it ate it. And then I did it AGAIN last night. I am not a smart man.

The problem is that trying to get cash advances on my credit card is like pulling teeth here. Visa and Chase say it shouldn't be an issue at all, go up to a teller with the card and passport and bam cash. But the banco Colombian (and other bank) managers tell me it's not possible without a pin. I don't have a pin for my credit cards unfortunately.

Any advice as to how to get cash using my CCs?

Thanks much. Medellin is amazing. Trip report incoming.

Casas are usually really good at it, that being said it doesn't mean that some may slip through the cracks. If you are staying a hotel that actively polices all guess at the front desk. I wouldn't be worried in that case they have a lot more to loose if the police catches an underage girl. But if you stay at a place that does check them it will be up to you to check every single one, and tell them to bring the actual Cedula not the "paper" they sometimes have that says they are over 18. I forget what they call it. Good luck.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2420809]If you want to be certain that the girl is 18 or older should you just stick to casas and the strip clubs. Since I don't know if the ID is fake or not, is using tinder and SA risky since a underage girl coming to your hotel without your knowledge is not something we all want, or is it risky at casas too. Could those girls also have underage girls and we wouldn't know. Could a veteran explain if Medellin is the wild wild west when it comes to these things. Do these casa owners do what they want.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2420784]Your a true inspiration brother! Loved your post about the Colombian dude trying to grill you? Did this happen during the day or night? I don't speak Spanish well, am I crazy to want to hit the bars of Centro up at night alone? From what I have read, it gets very sketchy at night and I would have no business there, but after reading your post I am intrigued. I partied in Parque Lleras for a week and it was fun, but pricey. I am definitely going to try Laurelas out on my next trip. Still in my 30's so to hear about your adventures is fucking awesome. Reminds me of the that movie, "The Mule" LOL.[/QUOTE]The incident happened at night around 11 PM.

Last night in that area the police showed up in force at a bar I was in. They even had a drug dog. They checked everyone even me the lone Gringo. They had a women officer who really patted down the girls. She was very tall and hot. I was going to ask her to pat me down but thought better if I don't act a fool with police all around me. Anyway they left and then the music played on.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2420662]I wanted to take the bus from San Diego mall but my Didi driver told me that for 17 mil I could share an air-conditioned cab with another 3 people. I agreed because it was a hot day. The cab place somewhere near the San Diego bus station.

Time wise I think it was about the same. So, if the bus has an a / see, there is pretty much no difference.[/QUOTE]The buses do not have air conditioning. As you get up the mountain, the air is cooler. I don't see any advantage to the shared taxis. Unless you get the front seat, you are crammed into the back seat with two other people. If you get the front seat, that means you are the first person, so you will be waiting until they find three other people. Sometimes, I have had to wait a while for the bus, but I get a seat that is more comfortable than the back seat of the taxis. I have used both buses and taxis, I prefer the buses.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2420642]
In my mind, I have four options: casas, bars, Centro and Lleras. (I'm not sure how Lleras differs from Centro. Quality?) I'm not usually a SG guy because I want more than the bare minimum mechanical act that usually follows. But I have had a few good sessions with SGs.

I guess my biggest concern is that the bars are scattered throughout the city. If I don't like the vibe of a place, I'd love to be able to walk a block to the next option.[/QUOTE]The area in El Centro is pretty close to each other, many more bars than Tijuna like Surfer mentioned. They are more like Tripical. You are assuming SG is the same but they are not. You can spend sometime observe and talk to them to find out. Have you considered Bogota?

[QUOTE=ChicagoMan;2420938]Hola all ,

So of course, I left my ATM card in the machine and it ate it. And then I did it AGAIN last night. I am not a smart man.

The problem is that trying to get cash advances on my credit card is like pulling teeth here. Visa and Chase say it shouldn't be an issue at all, go up to a teller with the card and passport and bam cash. But the banco Colombian (and other bank) managers tell me it's not possible without a pin. I don't have a pin for my credit cards unfortunately.

Any advice as to how to get cash using my CCs?

Thanks much. Medellin is amazing. Trip report incoming.[/QUOTE]If you have your ATM card numbers and pins you may be able to wire yourself money thru Western Union and WU may take credit cards.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2420642]Great advice and that's my quandry. In Tijuana, I've grown fond of the HK game. I enjoy the parties with the hot chicas as much as the takeout. I've started a list of bars and I'm going to come up with a plan. But I've learned to just go with the flow, especially since I have no idea what to expect.

In my mind, I have four options: casas, bars, Centro and Lleras. (I'm not sure how Lleras differs from Centro. Quality?) I'm not usually a SG guy because I want more than the bare minimum mechanical act that usually follows. But I have had a few good sessions with SGs.

I guess my biggest concern is that the bars are scattered throughout the city. If I don't like the vibe of a place, I'd love to be able to walk a block to the next option.[/QUOTE]I will make it simple for you. Since you have only three days, stay in El Centro and you will have more pussy than you can handle. And don't discount the Street Girls here, they are not like the Street Girls in Tijuana, not even close. It's like night and day. There's options all over El Centro, no need to leave and go anywhere else if you have only three days.

[QUOTE=Kelso1;2420942]The incident happened at night around 11 PM.

Last night in that area the police showed up in force at a bar I was in. They even had a drug dog. They checked everyone even me the lone Gringo. They had a women officer who really patted down the girls. She was very tall and hot. I was going to ask her to pat me down but thought better if I don't act a fool with police all around me. Anyway they left and then the music played on.[/QUOTE]What exactly were they looking for? Its legal to have small amounts of cocaine on you in Colombia correct? Do you think a person with a small amount of coke would have been arrested?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2420971]The area in El Centro is pretty close to each other, many more bars than Tijuna like Surfer mentioned. They are more like Tripical. You are assuming SG is the same but they are not. You can spend sometime observe and talk to them to find out. Have you considered Bogota?[/QUOTE]I have considered Bogota but the consensus on here seems to be that Medellin has a leg up on Bogota. That said, I am curious if and why you'd recommend it.

Good to know that the SG game is a bit different. I am certainly not opposed to checking out Centro.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2420610]Gusto is a different story, to enjoy gusto, you need to have a party mindset, and don't mind spending a few hundred extra dollars for the night. Gusto girls are hot and crazy, they are a little on the older side, but you can still find some 20-21 year-olds there. With gusto girls, you either need to possess hard negotiation skills or have a higher alcohol and drug tolerance than they do. If done right, gusto is a great place to party.[/QUOTE]Gusto seems to get a lot of negative publicity. But it also sounds like a good party place, albeit overpriced.

This is hard to answer, I know, but what is a reasonable budget for a night? I will spend about $300 a night at Hong Kong in Tijuana. How far will that get me at Gusto? A good party experience with a chica for a couple hours and a session?

[QUOTE=ChicagoMan;2420938]Any advice as to how to get cash using my CCs?[/QUOTE]Send Western Union to yourself.

[QUOTE=Recondite;2420912]I had a mediocre experience with Angie Muoz, who is so highly rated on here. She had a cold or gripe when she came and did not tell me before hand (not cool in my book). I probably should have just paid her taxi and sent her away but I went ahead anyway. By the standards of other destinations like Costa Rica, the session was not bad but it certainly did not live up to her reputation. I certainly didn't ask for or get kisses and you could tell she was feeling the cold. I only had one polvo but I kind of wanted her to leave afterwards anyway since she was sick. I also asked about anal and she confirmed that she makes her decisions based on size. I'm fairly well endowed so she didn't want to try with me (which I had no problem with). Anyway for anyone thinking of a cita with her I'd stay away for the next week or so. Given what I've read and my conversations with others I'm sure she is normally fantastic. If anyone has any suggestions for a freaky more PSE girl (anal, deepthraot etc) please PM me. I've got some ideas from talking to FB girls and looking at the Spanish language sites but would certainly appreciate some suggestions.[/QUOTE]Interesting read. I believe I am the only man in the world that has been with her but had a bad experience with her. She is the most highly regarded woman that I've been with but didn't have a good time with. Thanks for the warning about her illness.

[QUOTE=ChicagoMan;2420938]Hola all ,

So of course, I left my ATM card in the machine and it ate it. And then I did it AGAIN last night. I am not a smart man.

The problem is that trying to get cash advances on my credit card is like pulling teeth here. Visa and Chase say it shouldn't be an issue at all, go up to a teller with the card and passport and bam cash. But the banco Colombian (and other bank) managers tell me it's not possible without a pin. I don't have a pin for my credit cards unfortunately.

Any advice as to how to get cash using my CCs?

Thanks much. Medellin is amazing. Trip report incoming.[/QUOTE]Call your bank and ask for a pin number.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2419800]Mongers have stopped going to Asia. Argentina is no more, Sosua is in decline, Rio is in decline; now everyone is headed to Medellin, what's going to happen to my beloved destination?[/QUOTE]I'm on a few Thai and Philippines boards. Colombia and Medellin are starting to come up a LOT. And those are guys who live in Australia and New Zealand!

Someone mentioned the amount pregnant chicas in Botero and centro, your not kidding, yesterday late afternoon and early evening I counted no less than 7, WTF! All available and I spoke to about 3 or 4 and they are between 2 and 6 months with the statistical average being 3. 5 month, hehehehe, all available and some of them kinda cute if banging a prego is your thing.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=ChicagoMan;2420938]Hola all ,

So of course, I left my ATM card in the machine and it ate it. And then I did it AGAIN last night. I am not a smart man.[/QUOTE]Did you go to the bank where the ATM is that took your card, and ask for it? Assuming the ATM really did swallow it, and not the next customer took it, the bank should not have a reason to keep it.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2421002]...And don't discount the Street Girls here, they are not like the Street Girls in Tijuana, not even close. It's like night and day. There's options all over El Centro, no need to leave and go anywhere else if you have only three days.[/QUOTE]I would like to disagree with you on this. I have been to Tijuana many times, and SGs are my favorite there. Inexpensive, young, and eager to show you a good time.

I am not sure what you mean by "not even close". I personally think the SGs in Tijuana are better looking than the SGs in Medellin.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2421036]Call your bank and ask for a pin number.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately they said they can only mail it and it takes 7-10 business days.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2421049]Did you go to the bank where the ATM is that took your card, and ask for it? Assuming the ATM really did swallow it, and not the next customer took it, the bank should not have a reason to keep it.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately the card is instantly destroyed according to the manager at the bank.

I saw her when she first started and then saw her a few times in 2018, I believe. She is a nice girl who gave me good service at the time (although I hate those ugly tats on her thigh). But once I started to see her name plastered here and saw her fotos of her trips to various places, I realized she was becoming much more commercial. Which I avoid. Eventually, some of these girls get lazy because they get too much attention and think they can get away with it. I am not sure if that's the case with her, but it might be.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2421028]Interesting read. I believe I am the only man in the world that has been with her but had a bad experience with her. She is the most highly regarded woman that I've been with but didn't have a good time with. Thanks for the warning about her illness.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2421007]I have considered Bogota but the consensus on here seems to be that Medellin has a leg up on Bogota. That said, I am curious if and why you'd recommend it.
[/QUOTE]You can walk from bar to bar in Santa Fa. I think the chica quality is higher at these bars compare to Medellin. The only club in Medellin that is close to HK is La Isla.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2421059]I would like to disagree with you on this. I have been to Tijuana many times, and SGs are my favorite there. Inexpensive, young, and eager to show you a good time.

I am not sure what you mean by "not even close". I personally think the SGs in Tijuana are better looking than the SGs in Medellin.[/QUOTE]What I mean by "not even close" is the level of service and the cost. As your aware, the Tijuana street girls will quote from about 200 Pesos up which may only include them taking off their pants and have extra charges for all of their clothes off, a BJ, and more than two positions, along with a 20 minute time limit which is enforced by the hotel where they knock on the door after twenty minutes.

So how about at least an hour versus twenty minutes, all clothes off, BBBJ included, and at about 1/2 the cost versus the Tijuana street girls. Not even close in my book.

As far as the girls looking better, well that's all in the eye's of the beholder, and I have no argument there.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2421043]Someone mentioned the amount pregnant chicas in Botero and centro, your not kidding, yesterday late afternoon and early evening I counted no less than 7, WTF! All available and I spoke to about 3 or 4 and they are between 2 and 6 months with the statistical average being 3. 5 month, hehehehe, all available and some of them kinda cute if banging a prego is your thing.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]You sound tempted to take one of those pregnant Chicas arriba, and I have been so myself. There is a very cute petite one out that I have seen the last few days. Not to far along yet, perhaps within your statistical average.

And there also is a pair of pregnant chicas always hanging out together in front of a statue as well.

My bet is you could get both of them to go upstairs, and I suppose it wouldn't be a three-some but a five-some.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2421028]Interesting read. I believe I am the only man in the world that has been with her but had a bad experience with her. She is the most highly regarded woman that I've been with but didn't have a good time with. Thanks for the warning about her illness.[/QUOTE]Even with her illness guys will flock to her. Honestly I think she should pay the admins on this site a commission for all of the business the site has brought her. I saw her and have absolutely no complaints. But she's human and I'm sure she has bad days just like the rest of us.

I completely agree with you. Some of you have told me in detail about great experiences. I just wanted to warn anyone thinking of seeing her in the near future. At least ask her if she's sick before pulling the trigger.

[QUOTE=Uthred;2421120]Even with her illness guys will flock to her. Honestly I think she should pay the admins on this site a commission for all of the business the site has brought her. I saw her and have absolutely no complaints. But she's human and I'm sure she has bad days just like the rest of us.[/QUOTE]

Any bank will give a chase advance against a credit card in good standing. The interest and fees are insane. Save your money or do whatever else you have to do to be able to make ATM withdrawals from a cash funded savings or checking account.

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2421016]Send Western Union to yourself.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Uthred;2421120]Even with her illness guys will flock to her.[/QUOTE]Hell, he is only talking about a cold. I have known a chick to 100% have STD and warned dudes about her. That didn't stop shit.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2421059]I would like to disagree with you on this. I have been to Tijuana many times, and SGs are my favorite there. Inexpensive, young, and eager to show you a good time.

I am not sure what you mean by "not even close". I personally think the SGs in Tijuana are better looking than the SGs in Medellin.[/QUOTE]The SG in Tijuana, while some are cute, not HK Chicas like some like to boast, Tijuana women compared to Paisas or Vennies is a joke. The service of Tijuana SGs is even more ridiculous. Toilet paper around your cock with a condom?

I'd eat a dirty Vennie Ass before a SG session in Tijuana. I live 2 hours from Tijuana. I have a few "Novias" there. But, a Dios Mio. This year. Many days in Medellin are coming. Tijuana, while it's closer pussy, "not even close" to paisas.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2421011]Gusto seems to get a lot of negative publicity. But it also sounds like a good party place, albeit overpriced.

This is hard to answer, I know, but what is a reasonable budget for a night? I will spend about $300 a night at Hong Kong in Tijuana. How far will that get me at Gusto? A good party experience with a chica for a couple hours and a session?[/QUOTE]When you go to Hong Kong in Tijuana, your dollars are competing with those of every monger within driving distance of the Mexican border. You are not paying third world prices, you are paying "suburb of a the first world" prices. On the other hand, you are saving air fare and hotel costs.

You should not have to pay just-south-of-San-Diego prices in Medellin, but that is what people do in Gustos.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2420809]If you want to be certain that the girl is 18 or older should you just stick to casas and the strip clubs. Since I don't know if the ID is fake or not, is using tinder and SA risky since a underage girl coming to your hotel without your knowledge is not something we all want, or is it risky at casas too. Could those girls also have underage girls and we wouldn't know. Could a veteran explain if Medellin is the wild wild west when it comes to these things. Do these casa owners do what they want.[/QUOTE]Most of the casas are dependable when it comes to providing legal age girls. Same with the strip clubs.

Unless you're actively searching for that, you probably don't need to worry too much.

[URL]https://colombiareports.com/eln-rebels-bomb-electricity-tower-in-medellin-in-retaliation-attack/[/URL]

Not being alarmist just letting you all know this was the first occurrence in over 20 years.

Is a good read that provides some background of the E. L. N. Guerrilla group as well as current political environment just to be informed.

Also to take special care not to venture too far off the beaten path outside MDE, that is where most kidnappings occur.

Stay Safe & Horny my friends!

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2421043]Someone mentioned the amount pregnant chicas in Botero and centro, your not kidding, yesterday late afternoon and early evening I counted no less than 7, WTF! All available and I spoke to about 3 or 4 and they are between 2 and 6 months with the statistical average being 3. 5 month, hehehehe, all available and some of them kinda cute if banging a prego is your thing.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Nice! My next trip down will have to book a week then the first couple days select several and get them all STD checked. .

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2421143]Most of the casas are dependable when it comes to providing legal age girls. Same with the strip clubs.

Unless you're actively searching for that, you probably don't need to worry too much.[/QUOTE]What about using Tinder and SA. Do you guys check the ID when they come and hope its real. Do you let the front desk check it if your not in airbnb.

I took a quick two day trip down to MDE late January. I arrived Saturday mid-day and was leaving Monday Morning.

Saturday.

After taking an uber ride from the airport to my hotel in the Poblado area, I dropped off my bag and headed out to explore the city. Walked around the Poblado area for a bit and got some food before heading to the metro station for plaza Botero. I arrived at plaza Botero around 2 pm. I walked around the plaza for a bit taking it all in. I then started to just walk around the area not really knowing where I was going. I eventually found the street were I started noticing the SG. Made my way to the church and then circled back to see if there was anything that would catch my eye. Unfortunately I didn't see anything I liked. I then just kept exploring the area for a bit, around 4 pm I decided it was time to check out some casas. First place I headed to was new life. So from plaza botero I made way to new life. When I got to new life there was a bunch of people in the waiting area. Most of the guys in there though were just waiting for their friends to finish their sessions. I sat down and ordered a water. Then came the wave of beauties one by one. There must have been about 20 girls that came out to introduce themselves. I really liked the variety of girls they had there, there was something for every ones taste. I took a minute or two to decide who I wanted to session with. I couldn't remember the name of the girl or her number. So I just described what she was wearing to the man and he said " ah la culona". She was tall, white, mid length black hair, small breast and very culona. She led me to a nice room downstairs. She got undressed and started shaking her ass for me on the bed. I then began to stretch her ass open and admire the view. After a bit of this she offered anal for 50 k which I accepted. She could only handle about 5 minutes of anal before she asked if I wanted pussy. I had a great one HR sessions with her (90 K). She gave me her number and said she would do tln for a good price for me. I enjoyed my time with her so I just set something up for later with her. I then made my way to club sexy amigas. There was just a few guys in the waiting area. I ordered a beer and then came the girls to introduce themselves. They probably had about 8 girls. I finished my beer and chose my girl. This time I picked up a light morena with red hair. She had a medium bust and nice round bottom. I took her for just a half HR session (50 k). Another great session, my favorite part of the session was watching her giving me a CBJ and shaking her ass at the same time while I enjoyed the view in the mirror. Overall great girl would repeat again. I gave her 20 k tip and left. I then decided to go try out zandaly. I got lost trying to find it so I gave up plus it was getting dark soon, so I decided it was time to head back to plaza Botero and check out Conejitas. I really enjoyed my time at conejitas. It was packed with locals and about 15 girls. I saw the biggest ass while I was there. This girl musta been about 5'0 feet tall, super thick and all ass from the back. I didn't partake but overall I really liked the joint. Good selection of girls with nice variety between them. I had one beer stayed for about 40 minutes and left. Its was about 730 pm. I took a taxi back to my hotel freshened up got some food and texted the girl from new life. I told her to come over at ten. We settled on 300 k tln. She showed up looking pretty damn sexy too. She was wearing this one piece all black getup with slight cleavage showing. Kinda looked like catwoman. We then headed to a bar over at parque Lleras. We had a few drinks got an appetizer and just hung out. I kinda felt like taking her to dance salsa but fatigue was kicking in. We then headed back to my place. We got in bed cuddled and watched tv for a bit. She then turned on her side so her ass was facing me, man what a view. Had a nice little session and went to bed for the night.

Sunday.

Woke up about 7 am with the girl from new life still in my bed. I got up to use the bathroom and when I came back she was playing with herself. I watched her for a bit, then I jumped in. After our morning session, while she was getting dressed she asked me if I wanted her to spend the day with me. I told her no, but later in the afternoon she could come over. I ordered her an uber ride home and walked her downstairs. Had a quick breakfast at the hotel and headed out for some touristy stuff. While out I texted the girl from new life and told her to meet me at my hotel at 4 pm. Today she showed up more causal looking jeans and a shirt but damn did she still look good. From my hotel we walked around a bit then went to grab some burgers at el corral. Pretty good burgers not bad. On the way back to the hotel it started to rain a bit hard, so we ducked into a coffee shop and waited out the rain. As soon as we got back to the room she got undressed leaving only her thong on. She got in the covers and wanted to cuddle. Which was fine by me. WE sat in bed watching TV while I freely roamed my hands all over her body. We had one more session before she left, I payed her 200 k ordered her another uber ride and walked her downstairs. I then took a walk down to parque Lleras around 9 pm. I walked around for a bit saw a few girls but nothing I liked. I sat down at the beer store had a few beers and did some people watching. I then took a taxi to fase dos. I arrived at fase dos about 11 pm. 10 k entrance fee. Walked in went to the bar and ordered a beer. Most of the patrons here were all sitting at the bar area. In order to sit at one of tables you have to order a bottle. I found a place at the bar leaned up against it and surveyed the area. Place is big inside there were a few girls sitting alone and few girls in groups of threes. Some were on their cellphones whiles other were just chatting. I didn't see any girls that I liked, granted this was a Sunday night so maybe not the best day of the week to be here. I stayed for about 45 minutes and left. I took a taxi back to parque Lleras and decided to check out club gusto. 10 k entrance fee. There was probably about 15 girls inside. I ordered a beer and walked around checking out the talent. Out of all the girls there I was only interested in three but they were all occupied. So I sat at the bar and just enjoyed my beer. Then one of the girls I liked was free but then she went and sat with someone else for a bit then she was free again. I tried to get har attention but she went to sit with someone on the other side of the bar. At this point there was nothing else there that I liked, so I was just going to finish my beer and call it a night. Right before I was about to leave I saw her walking around the bar. SO I gave have her a nice smile, she smiled back and made her way to me. She was a morena, long black hair, large breast and decent back side. The blouse she was wearing could barley contain her breast. We talked for a bit, she did some sexy dancing for me and was grinding her ass on me. She then asked me, if I knew she was working. I told her I knew. Then she told me her price $200. OK so at this point I had seen this girl bounce around three guys at the bar, it was a Sunday night and gusto was about to close in an hour. So I countered with 100 and an uber ride home, which she accepted. I finished my beer and then we left. Back at the room she was doing some more sexy dancing for me. She then began slowly taking her clothes off. I knew her breast were fake, but they felt so good. She then needed help getting her pants off. After getting her pants down we started to make out for bit on the bed while I roamed my hands around her beautiful body. She gave me a nice CBJ, followed by about six different positions. My favorite position was having her on the edge of the bed kinda on her side with one of her legs in the air. While in this position she was super wet and turning me on with this very seductive look in her eyes. I told her I wanted to finish on her breast. So I pulled out took off the jimmy and finished all over her huge breast. I helped clean her up, then she crawled into bed. She wanted to stay till morning but I had an early flight and needed to get some rest. I ordered her an uber ride home, walked her downstairs and waited with her till the uber showed up.

My final thoughts on my quick two day Medellin trip. Overall I really enjoyed myself, so much so I already booked another 3 day trip for the end of February. I had a good time just walking around el centro taking it all in. I never felt unsafe or uneasy walking down there. No one really bothered me much, had a few people wave menus in my face but that's about it. I can't wait to get back to el centro next trip and find these gems I hear some of you guys find out there. I was only able to visit two casas, new life and club de amigas sexy. I really liked the line up they had at new life lots of beautiful woman to choose from. Club de amigas sexy was also a very good place, not as many girls as new life but some good talent there. I wasn't too impressed by fase dos, I thought they would have the type of girls I like there. I was hoping to see lots of super curvy girls there. I much preferred conejitas over fase dos. The atmosphere and the girls were way better at Conejitas in my opinion. Again I did visit fase dos on a Sunday night so maybe Fridays or Saturdays are better days to be there. Pargue lleras was OK, I was there on Saturday night but had a girl with me so really didn't look around much. Was there again Sunday night but not much going on. So next trip I'll have to check it out on a Friday or Saturday. Club Gustos was OK, again was here on a Sunday night. I didn't get to partake on the online scene like mileroticos, photopregaos, tinder or SA. Hoping to dip my toes into the online scene next trip. Also wasn't a member of the site this trip, so didn't have access to the Medellin list. I'm member now and can't wait to try out some of the places on that list. Thanks to all the members that contribute to the site and happy hunting.

[QUOTE=PdSuave;2421131]The SG in Tijuana, while some are cute, not HK Chicas like some like to boast, Tijuana women compared to Paisas or Vennies is a joke. The service of Tijuana SGs is even more ridiculous. Toilet paper around your cock with a condom?

I'd eat a dirty Vennie Ass before a SG session in Tijuana. I live 2 hours from Tijuana. I have a few "Novias" there. But, a Dios Mio. This year. Many days in Medellin are coming. Tijuana, while it's closer pussy, "not even close" to paisas.[/QUOTE]Speaking of Vennie asses, besides the crop of Pregnant Chicas who seem to be multiplying in El Centro like rabbits, there are some Vennies with such big asses (imagine a hippopotamus) I cannot even fathom getting hard and trying to penetrate one of these beasts. And with so many layers of fat, you probably have to have a cock a foot long to make it into their vaginas.

But these beasts must have customers, or they wouldn't be out there. And most probably a bargain, or perhaps there's premium for that, but I wouldn't know. There are Colombians on the backside of the Church with all the bars that will go for 20 K including the room, and they are nothing to write home about so I can easily see a guy into "big butts" having a field day with all the big assed beasts in El Centro.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2421141]When you go to Hong Kong in Tijuana, your dollars are competing with those of every monger within driving distance of the Mexican border. You are not paying third world prices, you are paying "suburb of a the first world" prices. On the other hand, you are saving air fare and hotel costs.

You should not have to pay just-south-of-San-Diego prices in Medellin, but that is what people do in Gustos.[/QUOTE]That's the beautiful thing about Medellin. Nobody needs to pay those prices, but for the guys who are happy to pay those prices there's Gusto, La Isla and Loutron. Three completely different experiences for the big spender.

At the other end of the scale for slightly more than an upsized fast food meal in the US, you can find plenty of girls in El Centro.

And there's everything in between.

The price of a meal, drinks and dessert for 2 in a great restaurant in the US is more than $200. For $200 in Medellin you can get a good meal for 3, with drinks, take a taxi to a nice love motel, spend 4 hours in a 3 some with 2 hot 18-25 year olds, and have enough left over to take them to breakfast.

There seems to be a little interest in my adventures into the Centro bar action. The best bar I found was called either Club Madrid or Madrid. It had by far the best looking girls. If you go there a few times and are not afraid to buy a bottle then you will find the girls almost fighting to get next to you. It is great when you are sitting with a bunch of hot women and when you move around some of the other girls let you know they wish they were with you.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2421082]I saw her when she first started and then saw her a few times in 2018, I believe. She is a nice girl who gave me good service at the time (although I hate those ugly tats on her thigh). But once I started to see her name plastered here and saw her fotos of her trips to various places, I realized she was becoming much more commercial. Which I avoid. Eventually, some of these girls get lazy because they get too much attention and think they can get away with it. I am not sure if that's the case with her, but it might be.[/QUOTE]That was the exact vibe I got from her. Some of the popular ones get their heads swollen and they begin to act like they are Rihanna. To be fair, she was always OK behavior-wise. But just all business. Kinda negative level GFE, but other guys swear by her friendliness so YMMV as always.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2421244]That's the beautiful thing about Medellin. Nobody needs to pay those prices, but for the guys who are happy to pay those prices there's Gusto, La Isla and Loutron. Three completely different experiences for the big spender.
[/QUOTE]I agree with what you say. This is another perspective.

When I go to one of these places it is because they are actually like fast food restaurants. It is usually easier for me to pick someone I like in a setting I like. I spent a lot of time in bars and clubs in El Centrol and it is my favorite area in Medellin. I have to make a conscious decision to spend so much more elsewhere and when I do I have been happy with the decision. It has to do with getting what I want in the short amount of time without preparation, and has nothing to do with how much money I spend.

Uber is still working?

[QUOTE=Vinyl22;2421231]Sunday.

Woke up about 7 am with the girl from new life still in my bed. I got up to use the bathroom and when I came back she was playing with herself. I watched her for a bit, then I jumped in. After our morning session, while she was getting dressed she asked me if I wanted her to spend the day with me. I told her no, but later in the afternoon she could come over. I ordered her an uber ride home and walked her downstairs. Had a quick breakfast at the hotel and headed out for some touristy stuff. While out I texted the girl from new life and told her to meet me at my hotel at 4 pm. Today she showed up more causal looking jeans and a shirt but damn did she still look good. From my hotel we walked around a bit then went to grab some burgers at el corral. Pretty good burgers not bad. On the way back to the hotel it started to rain a bit hard, so we ducked into a coffee shop and waited out the rain. As soon as we got back to the room she got undressed leaving only her thong on. She got in the covers and wanted to cuddle. Which was fine by me. WE sat in bed watching TV while I freely roamed my hands all over her body. We had one more session before she left, I payed her 200 k ordered her another uber ride and walked her downstairs. I then took a walk down to parque Lleras around 9 pm. I walked around for a bit saw a few girls but nothing I liked. I sat down at the beer store had a few beers and did some people watching. I then took a taxi to fase dos. I arrived at fase dos about 11 pm. 10 k entrance fee. Walked in went to the bar and ordered a beer. Most of the patrons here were all sitting at the bar area. In order to sit at one of tables you have to order a bottle. I found a place at the bar leaned up against it and surveyed the area. Place is big inside there were a few girls sitting alone and few girls in groups of threes. Some were on their cellphones whiles other were just chatting. I didn't see any girls that I liked, granted this was a Sunday night so maybe not the best day of the week to be here. I stayed for about 45 minutes and left. I took a taxi back to parque Lleras and decided to check out club gusto. 10 k entrance fee. There was probably about 15 girls inside.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kelso1;2421276]There seems to be a little interest in my adventures into the Centro bar action. The best bar I found was called either Club Madrid or Madrid. It had by far the best looking girls. If you go there a few times and are not afraid to buy a bottle then you will find the girls almost fighting to get next to you. It is great when you are sitting with a bunch of hot women and when you move around some of the other girls let you know they wish they were with you.[/QUOTE]Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is Madrid a working girl bar kinda like a cheap Gustos or a regular bar with working girls sometimes in it? When you say not for everyone, I am assuming you mean its not safe for non locals? Can't wait to hit Centro up, would be great if there was a night time party scene, I have just heard its way to dangerous to party there after dark. Just had a medical procedure and I am sidelined for a few weeks, so this is all interesting stuff to read. Any other cool bars kinda like Gustos in Medellin outside Parque Lleras?

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2421194]What about using Tinder and SA. Do you guys check the ID when they come and hope its real. Do you let the front desk check it if your not in airbnb.[/QUOTE]I've only had 1 show up from SA that looked suspect. In her pictures she looked like a grown ass woman but when she showed up I was a little worried. On the SA site I saw several young looking ones that I did not bother to contact. I saw her ID but I'm not expert and who knows how old she really was. I was at a place where there was no security or doormen. I don't think it's a concern if you're smart about it all.

I'm at the airport for the long flight home.

In the past I would always keep my left over pesos for my next trip to Colombia. I would do this to skip the ATM machines at the airport.

So here I am with plenty of time to catch my flight. What do I do? Do I get ripped by the airport exchange booth or do I keep my pesos for the next visit.

It was a very hard choice but I decided right then and there my trips to Colombia have come to an end. I cashed out.

The problem is I really feel Colombia and certainly MDE is going to be not to my taste anymore. Sure I had a good time but I can see the hand writing on the wall.

I'm sure it will take a while to become another San Jose. Meanwhile I going to go against the tide. I see a lot of guys bailing on the DR. I love to swim and hunt so I'm looking to go there. Good or bad I will find out.

That is a hoot. I have been hearing all these Aussie accents in Medellin and Bogota now. I didn't think they were here for the pussy, but I guess they are.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2421037]I'm on a few Thai and Philippines boards. Colombia and Medellin are starting to come up a LOT. And those are guys who live in Australia and New Zealand![/QUOTE]

New life. The line up always takes a while in here, a couple introduce every so often. Maybe 10 girls free at the time, like last time none for me.

Club amigas sexy. My favourite, 10 or so covering all different types, mostly same girls as the other day.

Yakusa - 3 girls none good.

Chicas punto com. Couldn't find this at first but a tout on the street showed me, go in the building shown on the map and then left up the big stairs maybe 15 girls and some doable.

Energy - 10 or so, quality bit better than the above casas but not much. Sessioned here, was OK, same service I got in club amigas the other day but twice the price. 160 k 1 hour.

Is there any other bar / club like Gusto with freelance girls in Poblado or Laureles. There is definitely some hot ones in there but the general quality is awful, majority old and rough.

Hey all,

I'm currently staying at San peter and they made me leave the damage deposit of 200 k in COP (really annoying). Anyway long story short I don't need COP at home so I figured I might as well go to a casa to spend some of that $$. I know Sunday is probably pretty dead so I thought I'd ask all your advice for the best place to go in terms of selection etc. I already went to New Life. I'm a fluent Spanish speaker and have no problem going local.

[QUOTE=CocrBrotheler;2421150]
Also to take special care not to venture too far off the beaten path outside MDE, that is where most kidnappings occur.
[/QUOTE]Do you have any reliable statistics about kidnappings in Medellin? This is the first time I see a mention of it in this forum. I thought it was all happening in Mexico.

Has anyone had good experiences on SA in Colombia? The 2 or 3 girls I've met asked ridiculous prices; they spoke good English. I thought they were spoiled by some Westerners who think they are always in US / UK.

I see it being mentioned on here often, thought I'd ask.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2421236]Speaking of Vennie asses, besides the crop of Pregnant Chicas who seem to be multiplying in El Centro like rabbits, there are some Vennies with such big asses (imagine a hippopotamus) I cannot even fathom getting hard and trying to penetrate one of these beasts. And with so many layers of fat, you probably have to have a cock a foot long to make it into their vaginas.

But these beasts must have customers, or they wouldn't be out there. And most probably a bargain, or perhaps there's premium for that, but I wouldn't know. There are Colombians on the backside of the Church with all the bars that will go for 20 K including the room, and they are nothing to write home about so I can easily see a guy into "big butts" having a field day with all the big assed beasts in El Centro.[/QUOTE]No doubt there are some serious "Globes" walking around there! I've only been through there once, never partook with any but I will this coming trip. Not saying that all Tijuana SGs are bad, but for the cheap price you get the same cheap service. I just never had that "eager to please" SG yet. If she is out there, no doubt a unicorn!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2421127]Any bank will give a chase advance against a credit card in good standing. The interest and fees are insane. Save your money or do whatever else you have to do to be able to make ATM withdrawals from a cash funded savings or checking account.[/QUOTE]Is $5 fee to get $1000 really "insane"?

I was referring to the cash advance fees. A $1,000 cash advance against a credit card costs quite a bit more than $5. Five dollars is a reasonable fee for the convenience of Western Union. There are many credit unions and brokerage accounts that offer free ATM withdrawals and refunds of the fees the Colombian banks charge. My cost to withdraw $1,000 from any ATM in Colombia is $0. 00. I consider it a further benefit that I can withdraw cash as I need it rather than have $1,000 or more lying around.

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2421430]Is $5 fee to get $1000 really "insane"?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fassima;2421334]Uber is still working?[/QUOTE]Uber no longer works in MDE. My trip took place the last weekend of January. Uber went down in MDE on February 1st.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2421391]Has anyone had good experiences on SA in Colombia? The 2 or 3 girls I've met asked ridiculous prices; they spoke good English. I thought they were spoiled by some Westerners who think they are always in US / UK.
I see it being mentioned on here often, thought I'd ask.[/QUOTE]Great SA review by Uthred post#5401 in General Info [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info&p=2419910&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2419910.

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2421430]Is $5 fee to get $1000 really "insane"?[/QUOTE]I believe he was referring to using a credit card. Not only will you be charges $32 by WU but the cash advance plus any other fees would quickly add up. That's also why he recommended to just use a debit card or instance a bank account since it's a lot less in fees. I Love this Board. Medellin. Loading.

Guys, I am sorry I have to ask.

WTF is SA?

Have done goole search and an ISG search nothing comes up.

Only SA mentions.

Bit of help here please?

When was this done? The going rate is around 3400 pesos to the dollar. Your pic is showing much less than that. Like a 10 pct haircut. You should know where the peso dollar exchange rate is before coming to a transaction

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2421430]Is $5 fee to get $1000 really "insane"?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MexiMonger;2421455]Guys, I am sorry I have to ask.

WTF is SA?

Have done goole search and an ISG search nothing comes up.

Only SA mentions.

Bit of help here please?[/QUOTE]Seeking Arrangement - Google it

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2421457]When was this done? The going rate is around 3400 pesos to the dollar. Your pic is showing much less than that. Like a 10 pct haircut. You should know where the peso dollar exchange rate is before coming to a transaction
[/QUOTE]Should receive in USD as well in order to avoid the shitty exchange. In some countries you are allowed to do that.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2421468]Seeking Arrangement - Google it[/QUOTE]Thanks mate.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2420074]Yesterday about 6 we ended up in one of my favorite non-descript strip / fuck clubs. I never knew the name but now I think it is Ovo, because there was a chick working the bar and she had Ovo on a red uniform shirt. She came over to our table bringing the water we ordered and she had a huge ass. I am a hips and ass man. I was actually able to rest my arm on the top of her ass. I told her that I wanted to fuck her.

The other BM that I was with thought her ass was fake, but grabbing on it, I knew it to be real. We went to the room. Total GFE. She was 27 from Caracas. The tits turned out to be fake and looked like somebody put 2 footballs in her chest sideways. I kept telling her how awful that shit was and it was better to be natural. She tried to get a condom to suck my dick, but I wasn't having any of that.

After we finished fucking we just layed there talking until somebody finally came and knocked on the door. We took a shower and I gave her the 70 K then left out. My buddy asked me what was taking so long. I said it was quick to me. He said he took a chick after I left, showered, fucked her, showered again, and came back out and I was still in there. His chick was a superstar and worked the hell out of that pole (dancing).[/QUOTE]I will be going to Medellin next week. I am staying at the Nutibara because it has a reputation of being chica friendly. This is solely a mongering trip. I monger all over the world but this is my first time visiting Medellin. I've hit tinder pretty hard and got several arrangements lined up just off that but plan on working the clubs and casas also. Anyways I am also a assman. Big natural jiggly booty is why I'm visiting Medellin. What places have the most big asses and curvy voluptuous women. Not a fan of petites. I've read several comments and I'the like to complete my list before I fly out next week.

[QUOTE=Global00;2420477]Nothing really to report that hasn't been reported. Was in Medellin recently and got my favorite booty pics from girl in Amiga Sexy for 50 k and Club Maracaibo for 70 k 30 minutes each.[/QUOTE]Awesome post. Got a couple questions, were the bootys man made, was BBBJ involved, and do you every try to take these chicas back to your room and if so how much.

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2421430]Is $5 fee to get $1000 really "insane"?[/QUOTE]For $1005 you received 3,038,734 COP.

At the current rate you should have received 3,427,821 COP.

You paid $114.09.

Total cost with Western Union runs around 11%.

So I only noticed the exchange rate when another brother mentioned it. That hasn't been a reasonable exchange rate in probably two years. That is a hidden cost. Western Union makes out like a bandit on any transactions at that rate.

I do my best to keep an open mind so I learn new stuff. So far, I am not finding a more convenient and cost effective alternative to ATM withdrawals.

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2421430]Is $5 fee to get $1000 really "insane"?[/QUOTE]

I was chatting with Angie Munoz on Facebook a couple of nights ago. She sent me some recent photos that looked a little chunky with thunder thighs and a big ass. Other photos on her profile she looks fit and tight. So, its hard to tell. I like 'them skinny: not emaciated, but like in the 5'2 to 5'6 range, 100-120 pounds. Bigger than 5'6 115-120 doesn't work for me. Ideal is 5'4 105-110 pounds. I am hoping for a trip coming up to Pussy Heaven aka Medellin in March. I just found out I can take a week or so away, so I am replenishing my lists for Facebook girls, casa runs, etc. Saw a stunningly gorgeous 19 year old on PhotPrepagos but I have never used them--I prefer the girls come to me than I go to some random apartment in some location I have never been to. So, I whatsapped her and am waiting / hoping for a reply: anyone have experience with photoprepagos? Photos real for the most part?

One reason I like the strip clubs like Luna Lunera is you get to meet 'them, try 'them and check 'them out and usually its easy to set up an outside the club date for a great price. The internet searches leave far more up in the air. Its too easy to alter photos or get the shrewd angles to make oneself look hotter than they are-strip clubs let ya check personality and looks, casas just looks--but facebook and other online sites don't let you feel any vibes from the girl. Ahh 1st world problems!

[QUOTE=MtVadose;2421372]Is there any other bar / club like Gusto with freelance girls in Poblado or Laureles. There is definitely some hot ones in there but the general quality is awful, majority old and rough.[/QUOTE]Almost any night club will have freelancers in it, especially on Friday and Saturday night (and Sunday night if Monday is a holiday). They may not be there specifically to work, but some are willing to put in overtime if you show interest. I'm not a big dance club fan, but every club I've been in, at least one woman has let me know she was available.

[QUOTE=Fassima;2421334]Uber is still working?[/QUOTE]No. The OP's report was about what happened in late January.

[QUOTE=ChicagoMan;2421080]Unfortunately the card is instantly destroyed according to the manager at the bank.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2421443]I was referring to the cash advance fees. A $1,000 cash advance against a credit card costs quite a bit more than $5. Five dollars is a reasonable fee for the convenience of Western Union. There are many credit unions and brokerage accounts that offer free ATM withdrawals and refunds of the fees the Colombian banks charge. My cost to withdraw $1,000 from any ATM in Colombia is $0. 00. I consider it a further benefit that I can withdraw cash as I need it rather than have $1,000 or more lying around.[/QUOTE]Knowledge, I totally agree with you about cash advance fees etc, but if you look at the picture the option checked is Pay Online from Bank Account. Sorry I didn't spell it out. Again, I agree with you that debit card is the best way, but his debit card is not available / destroyed, but his bank account still exists, so NO NEED TO USE CREDIT CARD just send WU online from the bank account. Just wanted to let BMs know that this option exists in critical situations. It would be nice to get an update from ChicagoMan.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2421345]Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is Madrid a working girl bar kinda like a cheap Gustos or a regular bar with working girls sometimes in it? When you say not for everyone, I am assuming you mean its not safe for non locals? Can't wait to hit Centro up, would be great if there was a night time party scene, I have just heard its way to dangerous to party there after dark. Just had a medical procedure and I am sidelined for a few weeks, so this is all interesting stuff to read. Any other cool bars kinda like Gustos in Medellin outside Parque Lleras?[/QUOTE]I meant when I said not for every one that some guys would not like to just dance, and flirt. They want to pound the pussy only.

As far as safe I am not a local and I was feeling good there. I would leave sometimes at 1:30 AM and walk to my hotel with no problems.

Now your question of what type of bar it is. Well it is a little hard to say. One of the girls I hanged with wanted me to take here away for some action. The others just wanted to drink and dance. I don't know how my lower area stood up to the grinding it got LOL. I guess if you offered them enough then sure you could bag them. Myself I almost always had a earlier session with a casa girl so I was only interested in a little bar fun.

[QUOTE=TherminMermin;2421614]I will be going to Medellin next week. I am staying at the Nutibara because it has a reputation of being chica friendly. This is solely a mongering trip. I monger all over the world but this is my first time visiting Medellin. I've hit tinder pretty hard and got several arrangements lined up just off that but plan on working the clubs and casas also. Anyways I am also a assman. Big natural jiggly booty is why I'm visiting Medellin. What places have the most big asses and curvy voluptuous women. Not a fan of petites. I've read several comments and I'the like to complete my list before I fly out next week.[/QUOTE]To bring girls back to nutibarra, and a hefty fee after 6 pm. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=TherminMermin;2421614]I will be going to Medellin next week. I am staying at the Nutibara because it has a reputation of being chica friendly. This is solely a mongering trip. I monger all over the world but this is my first time visiting Medellin. I've hit tinder pretty hard and got several arrangements lined up just off that but plan on working the clubs and casas also. Anyways I am also a assman. Big natural jiggly booty is why I'm visiting Medellin. What places have the most big asses and curvy voluptuous women. Not a fan of petites. I've read several comments and I'the like to complete my list before I fly out next week.[/QUOTE]Step right out of the Nutibara Hotel, walk about two minutes to the Intersection of Carrea 52 and Calle 52 and there will be a street sign at this location. At this location, which I refer to as "Little Caracas" because there are so many Venezuelans, you will find what your looking for within a five hundred foot radius, guaranteed. You won't be disappointed, and it will be quite economical for you. So much that you could take up two to three "Hippos" at a time for what you might spend on one in a Club or Casa.

The cat's out of the bag, Medellin is now becoming known for having women with big booty's, numerous pregnant women available, and with the Coronavirus upsetting things in Asia, all kinds of fresh new mongers are showing up here.

Is always good to me! Pollo negro is out!

I'm in a pickle here and need yalls opinion. Met a lot women on tinder and several have agreed on dates and whatnot. When I tell them which hotel I'm in it's a problem. 3 of them asked if I can change hotels LOL. Would why'all roll the dice with the tinder chicks and change hotels or stay at Nutibara in hoe central and put the tinder chicks on the back burner.

[QUOTE=TherminMermin;2421614]I will be going to Medellin next week. I am staying at the Nutibara because it has a reputation of being chica friendly. This is solely a mongering trip. I monger all over the world but this is my first time visiting Medellin. I've hit tinder pretty hard and got several arrangements lined up just off that but plan on working the clubs and casas also. Anyways I am also a assman. Big natural jiggly booty is why I'm visiting Medellin. What places have the most big asses and curvy voluptuous women. Not a fan of petites. I've read several comments and I'the like to complete my list before I fly out next week.[/QUOTE]Sometimes I don't know whether to scream, laugh or cry. You hand someone the menu and they ask "what kind of food do you have here?

"What places have the most big asses and curvy voluptuous women?

Primarily North America. They're not quite as common in Canada as the US, but still plenty of big, natural, jiggly booty everywhere you look. I was just in a restaurant for breakfast and of the 10,18-40 year old women in the place, 6 had big, natural, jiggly booty.

Big, natural, jiggly booty isn't extremely common in Colombia. Colombians eat better and exercise more than North Americans. So big, natural booty isn't likely to be jiggly. It's the result of walking up and down steep hills every day. Really big booty, unless accompanied by a big belly isn't likely to be natural. Medellin is one of the cosmetic surgery capitols of the world.

Yes, there are currently a lot of overweight Venezuelans hanging out in Botero Plaza and I'm sure there are many big, jiggly, natural booties backing up the big, jiggly, natural bellies. You can also usually find a few big booties in most of the casas and strip clubs. They may not be natural, or they may not be jiggly, but that's the risk of visiting countries with low obesity rates and looking for women with traits primarily associated with obesity.

There are no "Reserved only for big, natural, jiggly booty" zones in Medellin. One day you might find 10 and the next day none. Maybe you could get a t-shirt made that says "Cambiaré Salchipapas por Sexo. " It's the Colombian version of walking into a bar a shouting "I've got chocolate!

If you monger all over the world, why are your only 3 posts all full of beginner questions? You're trying to nail down girls who openly advertise BBFS, trying to find out the big booty schedule and asking about takeout from onsite places.

I'm willing to help, but you've got to do some legwork on your own. Anyone who mongers all over the world should know that.

Hotel Nutibara, if I'm not mistaken, doesn't allow guests after 6 pm, unless they are registered, and won't allow the Venezuelans in as guests.

Completing your list before you fly out next week is a great way to really screw up your visit next week. All the setup you've done goes right out the window. You're not dealing with a law firm, or a doctor's office. You can't make an appointment weeks in advance and expect to get right in. A few of the girls, maybe 1 in 30 can keep an appointment 3 days out. Anything longer than that and you're playing the lottery. Anything longer than 24 hours in advance is a sucker's bet.

Until your feet are on the ground in Colombia and you've got pesos in hand, you're nobody. You're just one of the hundreds who say "I want to see you", but never do. You can make a list, and I recommend you do, but at least half the girls won't be available when you want. The other half will require you to renegotiate whatever deal you think they already agreed to. If you're insisting on BBFS, then you'll end up negotiating it a third time after she arrives.

[QUOTE=TherminMermin;2421614]I will be going to Medellin next week. I am staying at the Nutibara because it has a reputation of being chica friendly.[/QUOTE]I am also going this week and staying at the Nutibara. But I didn't get the idea they are too chick friendly. I was thinking IF I had a need to do a TLN or whatever I would just rent another hotel room in the area.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2412776]All the strip clubs double as brothels and have attached rooms for that use, plus you can pay the club a fee to leave with the girl if you want. Prices go from 60 k up to 300 k. (that's peso's so $20 to $100).

Some of the strip clubs.

The upscale ones:

FaseII-Cra. 44 #30-15.

[URL]http://www.clubfasedos.com/[/URL]

Bar La Isla-Las Palmas Medellin.

Grill San Diego-Calle 37 No. 45-15.

Luna Lunera-Calle 33 63 be-215..[/QUOTE]This is what I was looking for! QQ, is there a difference in quality of the girls between the "upscale" vs "cheaper" or is it just a matter of price and location and differentiates between?

[QUOTE=TherminMermin;2421728]I'm in a pickle here and need yalls opinion. Met a lot women on tinder and several have agreed on dates and whatnot. When I tell them which hotel I'm in it's a problem. 3 of them asked if I can change hotels LOL. Would why'all roll the dice with the tinder chicks and change hotels or stay at Nutibara in hoe central and put the tinder chicks on the back burner.[/QUOTE]I don't know how long your staying, but if you want to do Tinder chicks they are looking for guys staying in nicer digs and not in El Centro. If money is not an issue, you should stay somewhere else like Laureles or El Pobaldo and just use the short time hotels for the Centro Chicas. This way all your options are open.

[QUOTE=LeoAiolia;2421777]This is what I was looking for! QQ, is there a difference in quality of the girls between the "upscale" vs "cheaper" or is it just a matter of price and location and differentiates between?[/QUOTE]The more expensive ones will have nicer rooms and more hot girls, so instead of 5 to 10+ ones you like- there may only be 1-5 at the Centro clubs. All depending on time and day and luck of the draw.

Fase II is best Fri / Sat after 11 pm. Although if you want a table near stage 10 p might be better to secure a table. 20+ girls on floor there then (Fri / Sat) and up to 50+ by midnight on a good night. I think the cheapest bottle service you can get (so you can sit at table and not the bar) is 130 k+- for the small bottle of Aguardiente. (which is 16 k at the small liquor store on the corner behind the Nutibara Hotel.) They do a bucket of beer too but I forget how much that was.

On the other hand I found a Fase II top shelf type girl at Conejitas around 6 pm on a Sunday and paid the club the 50 k for take out and kept her for 2 days. Luck has a lot to do with it.

Sometimes I see nobody I want in the Centro Clubs and sometimes I see 5.

[QUOTE=TherminMermin;2421614]I will be going to Medellin next week. I am staying at the Nutibara because it has a reputation of being chica friendly. This is solely a mongering trip. I monger all over the world but this is my first time visiting Medellin. I've hit tinder pretty hard and got several arrangements lined up just off that but plan on working the clubs and casas also. Anyways I am also a assman. Big natural jiggly booty is why I'm visiting Medellin. What places have the most big asses and curvy voluptuous women. Not a fan of petites. I've read several comments and I'the like to complete my list before I fly out next week.[/QUOTE]I stayed there last year and at night it was not guest friendly. In the daytime it was OK but I forget what time they cut the visits off but it was very early in the night.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2421713]

The cat's out of the bag, Medellin is now becoming known for having women with big booty's, numerous pregnant women available, and with the Coronavirus upsetting things in Asia, all kinds of fresh new mongers are showing up here.[/QUOTE]Haha, that's funny.

The cats been out of the bag for a while now in Medellin actually, just a bigger cat now, LOL.

Ohhh the days of Medellin, before the mansion, casa maps, and when you were just happy you made it down the hill from Rio Negro without being robbed or kidnapped, LOL.

Things change though, I know, I know.

I'm allowed to reminisce.

Nowadays, as JjBee posted, there are "Reserved only for big, natural, jiggly booty" zones posted in Medellin, LOL.

As the "world travelers" arrive, they're more than welcome of course, there's no stopping them, however, we all know what happens to places when this happens.

Unfortunately.

Life goes on, however.

I still visit Colombia frequently, because I've made so many contacts and friends, and I know it well, however, my new found paradise, I will keep quiet.

It's nice and easy to be the best looking and coolest gringo in town when I'm the only one, LOL.

Enjoy!

The Nutibara isn't going to let you bring in girls. That's been covered many times on this forum and the girls are backing it up. Change hotels unless you need to hear it from the Nutibara desk clerk. Which hotel should you change to? RTFF.

[QUOTE=TherminMermin;2421728]I'm in a pickle here and need yalls opinion. Met a lot women on tinder and several have agreed on dates and whatnot. When I tell them which hotel I'm in it's a problem. 3 of them asked if I can change hotels LOL. Would why'all roll the dice with the tinder chicks and change hotels or stay at Nutibara in hoe central and put the tinder chicks on the back burner.[/QUOTE]

I keep a backup debit card and I linked an American Express to a checking account. The AMEX fee is $3 or $4 per transaction and I don't get the fee from the bank that owns the ATM reimbursed. I think I've only had to use AMEX once or twice ever.

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2421682]Knowledge, I totally agree with you about cash advance fees etc, but if you look at the picture the option checked is Pay Online from Bank Account. Sorry I didn't spell it out. Again, I agree with you that debit card is the best way, but his debit card is not available / destroyed, but his bank account still exists, so NO NEED TO USE CREDIT CARD just send WU online from the bank account. Just wanted to let BMs know that this option exists in critical situations. It would be nice to get an update from ChicagoMan.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Balboa;2421836]
Ohhh the days of Medellin, before the mansion, casa maps, and when you were just happy you made it down the hill from Rio Negro without being robbed or kidnapped, LOL.

[/QUOTE]Those were great times.

JjBee62,

Your commentary, while constructive, is quite entertaining. You, PN, Mojo, surfer. You guys have a wealth of intel. So grateful.

Everyone else on this board. Brothers til the end.

Can't wait for those big asses in Centro.

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Question about SA. For those that have used it or use it regularly, what percentage of the girls want money for short term dates and which percentage are actually looking for a sugar daddy that aren't interested in short term dates or the one week tourist. I don't want to spend the 90 bucks if most of the girls want a longer term sugar daddies with some sort of monthly allowance.

There are some really attractive girls on there in the 18 to 25 range. I'm getting over 1000 hits when I narrow my search down.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2421735]You can't make an appointment weeks in advance and expect to get right in. A few of the girls, maybe 1 in 30 can keep an appointment 3 days out. Anything longer than that and you're playing the lottery. Anything longer than 24 hours in advance is a sucker's bet.[/QUOTE]24 hours? Shit. The whole game is a sucker's bet. I had a non-pro coming by last week. She was literally on her way then all of a sudden sent me a message that her sister was having a baby and she had to take the clothes to the hospital so she could not come.

Funny how you can talk to a chick for weeks and nothing is going on in her life. Then you show up with boots on the ground and fire alarms are going off everywhere for her. My buddy said I was lucky she even told me that. He said most chicks would not even give the courtesy of an excuse; they just would not show up or say anything about it.

I reported about a casa chick supposed to come by. I sent her a message that night asking if she was ready to come. Nothing. The next day I sent a message asking what happened. A week later, still nothing! The game has gone to shit IMO. At least when you deal in casas and SW you don't get the problem of chicks being late and not showing up because they are already there.

Now here's a thought: if you're banging a big bootied Colombiana in doggy, what size dick do you need to have for her to feel anything? Hahaha.

I imagine all of us here are at least 20 cm or bigger, but realistically, those giant asses (which I adore) must be limiting in terms of different positions.

Some more strip club visits.

Luna Lunera - 10 k entry, not that's full but lots of guys and maybe only 6 girls free at midnight and none of which I liked. The waiter when I asked for a beer, said something about a minimum spend or minimum number of beers you can buy at once couldn't understand, either way said it will be 50 k for 3 beers. I just left.

La Isla. Not really that busy this time, ratio is high though loads of girls free, lots of fake asses, some good looking girls. 10 k entry 22 k beer. I hanged out here a while.

Conejitas Bar and grill. Packed with guys not many girls about only handful free. 6 k beer.

Grill nueva Avenida. I walked in and out, not many guys in here, lots of girls available though, none I liked.

Maracaibo. Also quiet in here, but loads of girls free, one or two doable but most poor. 12 k beer.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2422012]24 hours? Shit. The whole game is a sucker's bet. I had a non-pro coming by last week. She was literally on her way then all of a sudden sent me a message that her sister was having a baby and she had to take the clothes to the hospital so she could not come.

Funny how you can talk to a chick for weeks and nothing is going on in her life. Then you show up with boots on the ground and fire alarms are going off everywhere for her. My buddy said I was lucky she even told me that. He said most chicks would not even give the courtesy of an excuse; they just would not show up or say anything about it.

I reported about a casa chick supposed to come by. I sent her a message that night asking if she was ready to come. Nothing. The next day I sent a message asking what happened. A week later, still nothing! The game has gone to shit IMO. At least when you deal in casas and SW you don't get the problem of chicks being late and not showing up because they are already there.[/QUOTE]I remember a waitress I'd been talking to and hanging out with for about 3 months in Poblado. She kept talking about being my girlfriend. I finally set up a date with her. No show, no responses. Never another message until about 4 months later, 2 months after I was back in the US. She had just found out I wasn't in Medellin and wanted to ***** me out because I never told her I was leaving.

I've found a few who are usually reliable. Part of the problem, every tiny thing becomes a 4 alarm fire. If their cat coughs up a hairball, it's a family emergency. Not only do they have to cancel, but they need money in case the cat needs to go to the vet.

Add on the Colombian national reluctance to say "no", and there's often going to be problems.

For those who don't understand, Colombian culture has an aversion to giving a direct "no" to people. If you ask a girl for a date, she'll often say yes, or at least leave you thinking she said yes, even though the thought of a date with you makes her nauseous. It's throughout the culture. Ask any gringo running a business in Colombia. So if a girl says she wants to see you. It either means she wants to see you or she doesn't want to see you, but doesn't want to come out and say it.

I just got back to the states after a long weekend in Medellin and figured I'd share my experience since several of you have been helpful with me. I figured I'd give some context about myself and what I'm looking for in case there are others in a similar situation. I'm married (lucky to have a wife that is cool with me having occasional adventures), mid 30's, conisder myself fit and decent looking and am a fluent Spanish speaker. I'm also well endowed, which, as I'll detail below can make things complicated. I've had P4P experiences in Costa Rica, Thailand, Mexico, and Peru before. I'm primarily looking for sexual experiences I can't normally have at home so PSE type activities, with looks, also being important but less so than for many. I was with 4 providers (5 sessions) while I was there so this is a small sample. But I did notice some trends.

Anyway, I both took the time to try the Facebook game ahead of time and contact chicas and try casas. I visited Centro but feel like I would have needed more time on the ground to get anything there. I ended up staying both in Poblado and Laurales at Hotel Loyds and San Peter suites. I'll break down some thoughts about general P4 P culture, accommodations, and specific girls below.

P4 P culture observations: Some of this has been said before but here are some of my thoughts based on my experience interacting with chicas. One of my biggest mistakes and misunderstandings at the beginning related to time vs. Leches / polvos. You need to be clear when negotiating with girls in both casas and on FB that you want to have sex with them multiple times (if that is what you are looking for). It's not enough to set up a long date. This is quite different from my experiences in Thailand especially and Peru (with escorts) as well. Generally, you need to be explicit with FB girls about what you want in terms of services and also expect some of them to try to get out of those services. I had little luck with FB girls for anal in particular but as stated above I'm well endowed so there were a couple who said yes online and then no once they saw me. I started to be more explicit that I was well endowed later on. I didn't have too many issues with girls being late. I set up one date with a casa girl who flaked on me because said her boss wouldn't let her leave work early but mostly things went well in terms of timing and logistics. I definitely would not recommend trying to set up a last-minute date at night. Its probably better, in that case, to go to Parque Lleras or a strip club. I was trying to set things up around 8 pm on Saturday after my casa girl couldn't show up and it was hard to a) get girls high up on the list that I really wanted to see and b) I had a couple who were flaky or stopped communicating midway through our chats.

Accommodations: I was originally booked to stay in Energy Living in Poblado but as I wrote about earlier they had an issue and I had to find something else last minute (thanks to those of you who sent me suggestions by the way). I ended up staying at Hotel Loyds the first night and San Peter the second. I liked the accommodations at Hotel Loyds a lot. They had nice room for $35 good breakfast, l and the area was quiet. There were no issues with girls though I only had 1 date over there. I didn't really like that part of poblado much, though. It was nearly too fancy as I could not find closeby convenience stores or groceries and there were mostly offices and fancy restaurants. I staid in San Peter my second and 3rd night. The rooms there are decent. I didn't like the fact that I had to pay in cash and leave cash deposit. The staff also took a really long time to get some batteries to fix my safe. I also found the area to be too noisy for me personally (I brought earplugs but they only help so much). The party / club noise there goes on until 3 or so in the morning on the weekends. I really liked the neighborhood there a lot more, though. There are a load of nice restaurants and bars around and the neighborhood had a good vibe. So for next time, I'd love to find a place a few blocks away that was quieter but was still in Laurales.

Chicas: The fist night I saw Angie Munoz, which I already wrote about. In brief, she was OK but as I said had a cold / flu which was a bit of a turnoff. I didn't ask for and would have been pissed if she'd tried to kiss me. She is hot but her services weren't quite on the PSE level for me. My size as mentioned in the earlier post made anal a no go. She gives decent head but doesn't really do deep throat (at least for me and this may be related to size issues too). She also left after about an hour saying she needed to get some medicine for her cold / flu. Luckily I don't seem to have caught what she had but I was definitely freaking out after she left. I'd give here a be- to be for the experience but I believe that when she is healthy and feeling good she gives good service. As with everyone YMMV.

On the 2nd day, I want to Centro with Punkedlife and afterward we went to New Life. I think casas are the way to go for those of you looking for similar experiences that I am. At New Life after the long lineup, I asked the owner to send back the girls that did anal. He sent a couple and in to our room and I made my choice from there. The girl from my 2nd date was good looking in a girl next door sort of way but no model. However, she gave me great service, anal no problem, BBJ etc a couple of shots in the hour etc. I also took down her contact info via WhatsApp. She was originally going to do a TLN with me but ended up spending a few hours with me before I left. That last session ended up being my best one as it was a great mix of GFE and PSE. I hurt my foot earlier and she was very caring and loving in how she took care of me. But she was also happy to do all the things I wanted and told me she liked anal afterward. When I come back I think I will try the casa / personal contact approach more and possibly also use photoprepagos in combination with Catadores to find good leads on what I'm looking for.

I had my 3rd date with Angie Paola Gomez to come over for a few hours. She is cute, though a bit darker than in her photos (a common theme I noticed). Like Angie Munoz she has some tattoos. She came quickly without issues but is a bit scammy with her "uber" rates. She has a BF who drives her and she asks for 25 mil each way. I tend to chalk those sorts of things up to experience but I'd be very explicit about pricing for transport if you chose to see her. My session with her was interesting. She said she'd done anal before but when she saw my size it was off the table. The sex was OK but not incredible. She also was on her phone every now and then before and after sex, which I found annoying. The most interesting part of the experience with her was that she whipped out her vibrator (without me asking) and played with herself for a good 20 minutes when we were in bed. For those of you who bring or like toys, and like to watch girls masturbate she might be a good choice. She told me she loved Hitachi vibrators and she also said she was bi and had several girlfriends (can't attest to that). I found her to be a bit too distracted with her phone during our time, though, which was a turnoff. She was also not quite what I was looking for service wise but it was an interesting experience.

4 rth date I figured I'd look for a more GFE / girl next door experience for my next session so I set up a session with another FB girl (not sharing details since she seems low volume). She came to my place in the morning for a three-hour session and I told her no phone beforehand. She was a little older (late 20's) and had kids but that is not an issue for me. She was interesting to talk to and quite nice and was also quite affectionate. We had mechanical / physical issues with sex, though as she had a small vagina and mouth. I'd asked for multiple sessions during our time but we ended up only having sex once because she got hurt during sex. I'm pretty sure I bruised her cervix as the condom was bloody when I pulled out to change positions and she was in pain afterward. I don't blame her for stopping at the one session and she was a really nice / cool person who taught me a lot about life in Medellin. Lesson learned from there on out is to be explicit about size (in my case) as well as activities.

So, all in all, it was a good, but short trip. I think Medellin is a multi-trip or long trip destination ideally so you have a chance to repeat with good providers and build up relationships. I really only got exactly what I was looking for with my casa girl but I'd consider the trip a success given my experience with her. I'm sure if I had more time I could find a few girls like her who had no issue with my size, had good personalities and could take care of my specific needs. I don't think Facebook is a particularly good spot for looking for PSE providers either (rather its best for those primarily interested in looks or in more semi-pro types).

[QUOTE=TherminMermin;2421875]Thank you for coming to the rescue SuperMonger! Without your condescending bullshit post I would be totally lost in life. What other morsels of knowledge do you have for my ignorant green ass? I am a member on a few forums like this and I got to appreciate you little dick veterans of the board quick to give the "new guy" a ribbing. Regardless of how you digested my post or how I may sound, I am not a "newby". I am a pervert with disposable income just like your keyboard warrior ass. And who says I was hunting for BBFS? You must be talking about the post where the OP was wondering about BBFS and I shared with him some information that was given to me? Notice how I responded without being a prick and with no condescending tone. Oh I get it you're one of those control freaks huh. You're probably one of those guys whose prick is too small to do any damage BCD so you belittle everyone and torment providers to overcompensate. Since that's the case chew away pencil dick, chew away.[/QUOTE]My goodness! Why do so many guys spend time fantasizing about the size of my penis? Should I open up a website to sell pictures of it?

You are correct on one thing, which I didn't realize until after I posted. You weren't the one asking about women who advertise BBFS you simply responded. I apologise for my error.

You probably should have stuck with the "responded without being a prick" thing. Stooping to the level where you're fantasizing about another man's penis and his sexual interactions with women, on a public forum might misrepresent the sort of person you really are.

Your post was full of errors which an experienced monger should have known to avoid.

1. You want to stay at Hotel Nutibara because it has a reputation for being chica friendly, but it's been reported several times as now charging a chica fee, prohibiting Venezuelans and not allowing overnight visitors.

2. You specifically picked Medellin for "big, jiggly, natural booty. " Plastic surgery is a major industry in Medellin. It's like picking Iowa for the fresh Maine lobster.

3. You specifically picked Medellin for "big, jiggly, natural booty. " There are 4 ways to get big booty; genetics, medically, targeted exercise or obesity. Only obesity consistently results in big, jiggly booty. Genetically, Colombian women have no major advantage in that department. The medical route gives an advantage, but that's not natural. Obesity, except among Venezuelan refugees, isn't common in Colombia. Which leaves exercise, eliminating "jiggly" from the equation.

Medellin is nestled in a series of valleys. The poorest people live on the hillsides. For generations they've been walking up and down steep hills carrying heavy burdens. Which means you'll find a lot of well muscled legs and firm, noticeable asses. Not much in the jiggly department.

4. You asked where was the best place to find those booties. It's frequently reported available talent in any place varies from day to day, often from hour to hour. Asking for the best place and time to find something, in a country where that thing isn't especially common, isn't likely to yield useful information. Surfer500 has pointed out that there are plenty of fat Venezuelans with big butts in Botero Plaza. If you're looking for women who aren't fat, but still have "big, jiggly, natural booty" I'm afraid you're going to have an unproductive trip.

Research is the monger's best friend, whether he's a newby or an old hand. It might not prevent you from making a mistake, but it helps immensely in recognizing and recovering from the mistake.

If you had done some research on me, you would see I'm not:

1. A keyboard warrior. I'll happily meet you and tell you the same stuff and buy you a beer.

2. A control freak. I'm the guy telling people to do whatever works best for them. If I had a tagline it would be "your money, your dick, your business."

3. Someone who torments providers. I'm the guy saying "treat them nice, show respect, don't be an asshole."

4. Belittle everyone. Granted I belittle more than a few. Guys come along with crazy plans or ridiculous expectations. I used to try and reason with them, but those types seldom listen. Now I ridicule them. Not because it will keep them from doing something stupid or dangerous, because it might prevent the next guy from the same mistakes. However, if someone comes along interested in learning, I am always happy to offer advice.

Where, in your worldwide mongering have you found the booties you're searching for in Medellin? What is it about Medellin which makes you think it will be superior? What other comparisons, besides the booty, influenced your decision? Share a little bit and perhaps someone can steer you in a better direction.

Or we can go to the "Stupid Shit in Medellin" thread and argue about my penis.

Man I could not make a chick bleed even if she was on the rag. Size is nothing I ever had to worry about that's for sure. That was a well written review by the way and it looks like you made the most out of your short stay. And luckily you didn't catch anything from Angie. I picked something up my last few days there but not sure from who / where. But it's nice to be able to hit the pharmacy for antibiotics without having to go see a doc first. Thanks for the good post!

[QUOTE=Recondite;2422110] We had mechanical / physical issues with sex, though as she had a small vagina and mouth. I'd asked for multiple sessions during our time but we ended up only having sex once because she got hurt during sex. I'm pretty sure I bruised her cervix as the condom was bloody when I pulled out to change positions and she was in pain afterward...ther (rather its best for those primarily interested in looks or in more semi-pro types).[/QUOTE]

Sara Morales Facebook. Is smaller and bit chubbier than her photos make her look but she did do everything I want over a few hours so was happy enough.

The above girl was the only one I saw on Facebook, I didn't spend too much time on it and only spoke to maybe 10 or so but contrary to what I read here only 2 would do 200 k for 2 hours and no restrictions, lots will say CBJ but if you ignore them they come back and say they will but the biggest problem is multiple cums, even when they agree to 2 hours they say it's 1 cum only, I must be missing something because if you want one pop there are cheaper and easier options. One had been chasing me to meet all week but once I say multiple leche she completely shut down, I asked her out of curiosity what we do for the rest of the time then when I cum after 30 minutes, she said most guys spend the time socializing with her then sex once.

I spent most my time on seeking as I did in every city and found what I want there, which is a few hours unrestricted sex. And when I need a quick session during the day the casas.

Hearing all the recent talks of fellow Ass-men visiting soon to the well-endowed not finding susceptible culitos to penetrate, I just want to say.

There are asses of all shapes and sizes readily available on all the hoe-ing platforms especially easy when it comes to just finding them on the streets of Centro. Anal is like 40 Mil there, just saying. You will find one that can take you in!

[QUOTE=Mlatimudan;2422036]Now here's a thought: if you're banging a big bootied Colombiana in doggy, what size dick do you need to have for her to feel anything? Hahaha.

I imagine all of us here are at least 20 cm or bigger, but realistically, those giant asses (which I adore) must be limiting in terms of different positions.[/QUOTE]I have a 6" at best and the size of the ass has never affected my sexual experience & I've porked a few thick thick women in both Panama and Colombia, I'm talking 45" give or take butt. Btw, backshot is the deepest penetrative position, it's actually perfect for a smaller cock; if a girl isn't feeling anything in that position then your penis is so small she won't feel anything in any position.

[QUOTE=Uthred;2422172]Man I could not make a chick bleed even if she was on the rag. Size is nothing I ever had to worry about that's for sure. That was a well written review by the way and it looks like you made the most out of your short stay. And luckily you didn't catch anything from Angie. I picked something up my last few days there but not sure from who / where. But it's nice to be able to hit the pharmacy for antibiotics without having to go see a doc first. Thanks for the good post![/QUOTE]I didn't get an STD on my trip, but I did get sick for a week right after my trip. Some type of respiratory infection, felt sick for a few days, bad cough, and the lingering effects for a week and a half. I am hoping I don't contract this every time I go mongering.

[QUOTE=Recondite;2422110] I'm primarily looking for sexual experiences I can't normally have at home so PSE type activities, with looks, also being important but less so than for many. I had little luck with FB girls for anal in particular but as stated above I'm well endowed so there were a couple who said yes online and then no once they saw me. I don't think Facebook is a particularly good spot for looking for PSE providers either (rather its best for those primarily interested in looks or in more semi-pro types).[/QUOTE]If you are looking for PSE experience with anal, try Brazil.

Anal is pretty normal there and sure girls wouldn't have issue with bigger package.

From me at least, Colombian girls are more conservative where CBJ is normal and anal / CIM is hard to come by.

On the another side, every chick that I have been with from Brazil offer BBJ, anal and CIM as regular service

I personally prefer CBJ due to my STD phobia and girls looked at me crazy when I ask to put the condom on. Hahaha.

Colombia is still my favorite place to visit but give Brazil a try if you can.

[QUOTE=Mlatimudan;2422036]..I imagine all of us here are at least 20 cm or bigger...[/QUOTE]

I doubt it. Quote from 'Medical News Today'...

"The average erect penis is 13.12 cm (5.17 in) long. Penises longer than 6 inches when erect are rare, with this length of penis falling in the 90th percentile. ".

Probably why most chicks love a big dick, they're not seeing them as many times in their lives as we think they are LOL.

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2421682]Knowledge, I totally agree with you about cash advance fees etc, but if you look at the picture the option checked is Pay Online from Bank Account. Sorry I didn't spell it out. Again, I agree with you that debit card is the best way, but his debit card is not available / destroyed, but his bank account still exists, so NO NEED TO USE CREDIT CARD just send WU online from the bank account. Just wanted to let BMs know that this option exists in critical situations. It would be nice to get an update from ChicagoMan.[/QUOTE]You should have began your post with "If you have lost your debit card and cannot use your credit cards than western union is the next option". Then maybe people would not have read the post out of context. I wonder what ChicagoMan ended up doing also.

As someone with 6 inches as of last measurement, evolution has evolved to where 5 to 6 is most optimum for a woman. The vagina can't take more than about 6 or 7 anyway, so it's a waste to have more. Also, you need more bloodflow, the bigger your dick is, to have an erection, so as you age getting a full erection is harder. To save the best for last, if you are 5 to 6 inches it's easier for a girl to deep throat you. That itself makes me quite happy to be 6 inches.

It was supposed to be a compliment to all you guys. Sheesh.

[QUOTE=HotRockIt;2422301]I doubt it. Quote from 'Medical News Today'...

"The average erect penis is 13.12 cm (5.17 in) long. Penises longer than 6 inches when erect are rare, with this length of penis falling in the 90th percentile. ".

Probably why most chicks love a big dick, they're not seeing them as many times in their lives as we think they are LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HotRockIt;2422301].......... Penises longer than 6 inches when erect are rare...........[/QUOTE]You've got to be kidding me.

[QUOTE=OldBelly69;2422288]If you are looking for PSE experience with anal, try Brazil.

Anal is pretty normal there and sure girls wouldn't have issue with bigger package.

From me at least, Colombian girls are more conservative where CBJ is normal and anal / CIM is hard to come by.

On the another side, every chick that I have been with from Brazil offer BBJ, anal and CIM as regular service

I personally prefer CBJ due to my STD phobia and girls looked at me crazy when I ask to put the condom on. Hahaha.

Colombia is still my favorite place to visit but give Brazil a try if you can.[/QUOTE]During my last visit to Brazil November last year anal, BBBJ, CIM are all readily offered but DFK seems to be more restricted than before, I hope this is not a trend.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2422079]For those who don't understand, Colombian culture has an aversion to giving a direct "no" to people. If you ask a girl for a date, she'll often say yes, or at least leave you thinking she said yes, even though the thought of a date with you makes her nauseous. It's throughout the culture. Ask any gringo running a business in Colombia. So if a girl says she wants to see you. It either means she wants to see you or she doesn't want to see you, but doesn't want to come out and say it.[/QUOTE]Completely agree with what you have said which is something that can be hard to comprehend for many, myself included. In essence, what you are saying is that Colombians are in-direct, meaning they beat around the Bush and are not used to people, such as Gringos being very direct with them. I have experienced this here on numerous occasions, and many times such as in the case of Chicas not saying "no", its to avoid conflict and / or disappointing someone.

A perfect example of this happened to me about two week ago, I ran into one of my El Centro Chicas and asked her if you she wanted to spend the night with me. She said okay and said she was going to get her bag, but after an extended period of time she didn't return. I subsequently ran into her an hour later and asked her why she didn't come back to meet me. She said she couldn't do a TLN and that she didn't want to say "no" to me. After that we did go up to the room for a "rato" and I had a long talk with her explaining that she needed to be direct, and straight up with me, and that if she couldn't do something to just spell it out for me, whatever it is. She seemed to be relieved after our talk, and we had a great session, and since then communication between us has been much better.

I've actually been to Brazil but not for P4P. I did an exchange in Fortaleza when I was 17 (and ended up with a 23 girlfriend while I was there). I'll have to go back some time. I wish they would relax the Visa requirements for the US. Personally I had my best PSE experiences in Thailand at oilies. Those girls took it as a challenge to make my cum as many times as possible, deep throat me, and all did anal. I didn't even bother with gogo's bars or beer halls due to my size. Funnily enough one of my favorite oily girls had more trouble giving me vaginal than anal.

My guess is that as Medellin develops more there will also be more and more PSE options. Certainly there are already a lot of Colombian cam girls that do anal (among other things) online.

[QUOTE=OldBelly69;2422288]If you are looking for PSE experience with anal, try Brazil.

Anal is pretty normal there and sure girls wouldn't have issue with bigger package.

From me at least, Colombian girls are more conservative where CBJ is normal and anal / CIM is hard to come by.

On the another side, every chick that I have been with from Brazil offer BBJ, anal and CIM as regular service.

I personally prefer CBJ due to my STD phobia and girls looked at me crazy when I ask to put the condom on. Hahaha.

Colombia is still my favorite place to visit but give Brazil a try if you can.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2422454]You've got to be kidding me.[/QUOTE]I guess it depends on the population you're considering. The entire planet, a single continent, a country.

When did this forum become Grindr?

[QUOTE=HotRockIt;2422301]I doubt it. Quote from 'Medical News Today'...

"The average erect penis is 13.12 cm (5.17 in) long. Penises longer than 6 inches when erect are rare, with this length of penis falling in the 90th percentile. ".

Probably why most chicks love a big dick, they're not seeing them as many times in their lives as we think they are LOL.[/QUOTE]

Look at the reddit forum "big dick problems" for info on average size. There are a couple members that get into some fairly sophisticated stats based off of the best studies. The forum is mostly full of guys humble bragging and probably lying about size. I go onto there sometimes when I'm bored for a laugh but am not a contributor. I'd also point out that it's really girth more than length that causes issues with some girls (but that other girls also will love you for).

[QUOTE=Mlatimudan;2422572]I guess it depends on the population you're considering. The entire planet, a single continent, a country.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MtVadose;2422212]Sara Morales Facebook. Is smaller and bit chubbier than her photos make her look but she did do everything I want over a few hours so was happy enough.

I spent most my time on seeking as I did in every city and found what I want there, which is a few hours unrestricted sex. And when I need a quick session during the day the casas.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about this one?

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008856006083&lst=100000917381241%3A100008856006083%3A1581447989&sk=photos[/URL]

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2422232]I didn't get an STD on my trip, but I did get sick for a week right after my trip. Some type of respiratory infection, felt sick for a few days, bad cough, and the lingering effects for a week and a half. I am hoping I don't contract this every time I go mongering.[/QUOTE]It was some sort of sinus infection that started to get my throat sore. I hit it hard with the antibiotics at the first signs of symptoms and the trick worked. After about a week I was all back to normal. I was there the last week of January and it seemed like something was going around.

[QUOTE=OldBelly69;2422288]

Colombia is still my favorite place to visit but give Brazil a try if you can.[/QUOTE]What is YOUR reason for choosing Colombia over Brazil? I have been thinking about pulling the trigger on Brazil and the more I hear about it the more I am tempted. And I have a thing for Brazilian women that I cannot explain.

[QUOTE=Mlatimudan;2422572]I guess it depends on the population you're considering. The entire planet, a single continent, a country.[/QUOTE]This topic should go into the general info thread because it can turn into a long winded discussion LOL. I have heard several theories about size and you hit the nail on the head.

[QUOTE=MtVadose;2422212]The above girl was the only one I saw on Facebook, I didn't spend too much time on it and only spoke to maybe 10 or so but contrary to what I read here only 2 would do 200 k for 2 hours and no restrictions, lots will say CBJ but if you ignore them they come back and say they will but the biggest problem is multiple cums, even when they agree to 2 hours they say it's 1 cum only, I must be missing something because if you want one pop there are cheaper and easier options. One had been chasing me to meet all week but once I say multiple leche she completely shut down, I asked her out of curiosity what we do for the rest of the time then when I cum after 30 minutes, she said most guys spend the time socializing with her then sex once. [/QUOTE]In my experience, about 6-7 out of 10 FB girls will offer extra service for 200-250 + taxi, and almost all ten will offer BBBJ and DKF for 150-200+taxi. As for hours of stay, it depends on what you are looking for. If you want a quick fuck, then Casas or the streets of El Centro is an excellent way to achieve this, 200 k can get you at least four girls at ground zero, A. K. A Little Caracas, a. K. a the streets behind the Botero museum, around Calle 52 and 53. You can bang 2-3 girls in a Casa in Centro for less than 200 k. If your goal is to fuck a hot girl for 45 minutes, you can get better quality and service in Brazil and Germany.

What made me fall in love with Medellin is the Fb girls. Exactly as you have described, they will come over and spend multiple hours with you for 200 k; you get completely unrestricted sex. Together, you can smoke, drink, dance, and take whatever substance you desire. If you have a place that has a fantastic speaker system, good view, modern decore, multiple floors, and many bathrooms and bedrooms, the difficult part is getting them to leave.

As for MSOG, be friendly with them and know your limits, they will do it as long as you are reasonable. I had girls asking for 50 extra for each shot; in the end, I cum three times in 4 hours, she happily took 250+taxi. It is arduous work to make a monger cum the second or third time in 1 to 2 hours, especially when many of us fuck 4-8 women a day for 10-20 days straight. When I was in my late 20's, I always look for MSOG, but after a while, it is no longer fun, I prefer getting 5-8 erections, fuck 5-8 times in 3 hours and cum once than fuck and cum twice in two hours (if you can fuck 5-8 times and cum that many times in an hour, then power to you).

Here is an anecdote of my recent weekend. On Saturday night, I met up with two of my favorite 18-year-old FB girl. They agreed to stay for 4 hours, 9 pm-1 am for 200+taxi each. They took me on a trip to their neighborhood, a pleasant 50-minute round-trip drive from Poblado, to buy some Tussi and Ecstasy. We came back around 10 pm, and we partied like no tomorrow. It's like having an upscale FKK club to you and two smoking hot 18 year-olds that you can fuck in any way you want. I fucked them in the upstairs, in the living room, on the balcony, and in the rooms downstairs. They provided an insane lesbian show. We love the same music, the same dance style, and the same type of whiskey (scatch). When I'm tired, they will play with each other while I watch (you got to love those 18-year-olds, they never ran out of energy).

We were having a fantastic time, by the time 1 am rolls around, they wanted to stay longer. In the end, they left at 6 am, telling me they have to sneak back in the house before their parents wake up. I had the most intense fucking that I have ever experienced in my life. The sensation of having a tall, breathtakingly beautiful paisa with a perfect body furiously riding me, and at the same time, having another blonde, with a face that can stop traffic, playing with my balls, is truly unforgettable. The look of my 18-year-old princess while she is riding me reflects pure enjoyment and ferocious sexual appetite. It is a look that can bring a grown man to tears.

Yet, after many rounds of intense fuck, I didn't cum; I have to control it, of course. I give them 350 each for the fantastic time they have given me. As they were in the last shower, I messaged two of my backup 18-year-olds at 6 am, and they agreed to come over in 30 minutes. (for the newcomers who are reading, this type of response rate at this hour is difficult to get, especially for a threesome, it took me two months to establish a reputation and build trust, and there is a lot of luck involved). Right after sending away my two favorite 18-year-old FB princesses, two fresh ones showed up, they give me a double blowjob for a good hour, and with some fucking in between. I ended up cum in their mouth while watching some porn.

We slept together for a few hours, and before I knew it, I woke up with my cock in their mouth again. Morning sex is one of the most pleasurable things in life, without much effort, I cum all over their face. I knew they were happy to see me, and I ordered food for them, I have no doubt that they will offer as many rounds of leches as I want, but I was tired, and I have two more dates on Sunday night, I need to preserve my energy. They left around 2 pm, happily took 350 k + taxi.

What I'm describing is a very typical weekend night in Medellin. I have spent about 500 dollars in total for the night, which is about the cost of drinks and food if you are partying for the weekend in an expensive US city. I believe this is where you get the biggest bang for the buck. As far as I know, you cannot easily find this type of experience anywhere in the world except in Brazil (excluding southeast Asia, I don't dig Asian girls). It took me two months of hard work and persistent effort to find my comfort spot. In my book, Medellin is now neck to neck with Brazil.

What's the deal with tonnes of FB girls posting pictures with suckers / lollipops in their mouths of in their hands.

Also, these seemed to be sold everywhere, there are tonnes of street vendors selling them.

It always puzzled me and thought this might be a good place to ask.

Or, you can just go to a casa. I just got back from one. The chica was just as hot as the FB chicas. BBBJ with CIM, for 43 mil + 25 mil propina. Good to go and ready to get on with my day.

Sincerely,

Judd.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2422597]In my experience, about 6-7 out of 10 FB girls will offer extra service for 200-250 + taxi, and almost all ten will offer BBBJ and DKF for 150-200+taxi. As for hours of stay, it depends on what you are looking for. If you want a quick fuck, then Casas or the streets of El Centro is an excellent way to achieve this, 200 k can get you at least four girls at ground zero, A. K. A Little Caracas, a. K. a the streets behind the Botero museum, around Calle 52 and 53. You can bang 2-3 girls in a Casa in Centro for less than 200 k. If your goal is to fuck a hot girl for 45 minutes, you can get better quality and service in Brazil and Germany.

What made me fall in love with Medellin is the Fb girls. Exactly as you have described, they will come over and spend multiple hours with you for 200 k; you get completely unrestricted sex. Together, you can smoke, drink, dance, and take whatever substance you desire. If you have a place that has a fantastic speaker system, good view, modern decore, multiple floors, and many bathrooms and bedrooms, the difficult part is getting them to leave.

As for MSOG, be friendly with them and know your limits, they will do it as long as you are reasonable. I had girls asking for 50 extra for each shot; in the end, I cum three times in 4 hours, she happily took 250+taxi. It is arduous work to make a monger cum the second or third time in 1 to 2 hours, especially when many of us fuck 4-8 women a day for 10-20 days straight. When I was in my late 20's, I always look for MSOG, but after a while, it is no longer fun, I prefer getting 5-8 erections, fuck 5-8 times in 3 hours and cum once than fuck and cum twice in two hours (if you can fuck 5-8 times and cum that many times in an hour, then power to you)..[/QUOTE]

I didn't know MSOG was that big of a problem for some guys.

I try for MSOG with, like, a third of the ones I'm with and for a bit of a tip they are usually receptive.

I think the issue may be what you are doing to them, LOL. I'm pretty vanilla so, for them, it isn't that big a deal to keep on going.

But I've heard girls talk about some other "friends" who like to get rough (especially porn-style throat assault stuff) and I'm thinking its those guys who are having trouble getting one to stick around after that first pop.

[QUOTE=Judd;2422654]Or, you can just go to a casa. I just got back from one. The chica was just as hot as the FB chicas. BBBJ with CIM, for 43 mil + 25 mil propina. Good to go and ready to get on with my day.

Sincerely,

Judd.[/QUOTE]Apples and oranges.

You probably didn't spend 8 hours in a casa with a girl for 68 mil.

Not that it's a bad thing, it's just a different thing. I know girls who are really only good for 30-60 minutes. That's all it takes and there's no reason to keep them around longer. Then there are girls I can spend 6 hours with and I hate to see them go.

In a perfect world you find the 30 minute girls for 50 k in the casas and the 8 hour girls for 200 k elsewhere.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2421944]Question about SA. For those that have used it or use it regularly, what percentage of the girls want money for short term dates and which percentage are actually looking for a sugar daddy that aren't interested in short term dates or the one week tourist. I don't want to spend the 90 bucks if most of the girls want a longer term sugar daddies with some sort of monthly allowance.

There are some really attractive girls on there in the 18 to 25 range. I'm getting over 1000 hits when I narrow my search down.[/QUOTE]I guess that I will finish my SA visit in Medellin here. Tijuana, read the general info for more on SA, but I will start first off by saying that your thought process for using SA is wrong at least for Colombia.

When you first use SA, all that you put out is some generic, "I am an American going to be in Colombia" type message, and you do not mention price. I got a response of about one in five or ten with the messages. With about half the women, I would get a yes, I would like to meet you, and the other half would want a photo or would ask what type of arrangement do you want.

When the women ask for an arrangement, they want to know how much they are going to get paid if they fuck you. Often, I will turn that around and say, "Well, I am here a short time, so I can only do a short term arrangement, but I would really like a long term arrangement (and I really am looking for that) and if we hit it off, who knows?" About half the time, I say that, they like it, but the prostitute types want a number. With the definite short term types, I will tell them that I will pay them 50 k plus taxi if I see them and 200 to 300 k if we have sex depending on how hot they are. That is the best way to avoid the no-shows because the one negative thing I can say about Colombian women is when it comes to meet and greets, they may be even more flaky than American women.

Unlike in the USA, most of the Colombian women really do not know what SBs and SDs are. Sadly, most American SDs have treated the Colombian women like American women and have spoiled them. Every time I have met a Colombian woman who has had an American SD it has been bad news. I had talked to a civil engineer who told me that she made $600 a month and a bank cashier who made $300 a month, so I laughed my ass off when a SA girl who had a previous American SD asked for $800 for a day. She must have had an American SD who looked at her and compared to a SA girl in LA and paid it. Asshole!

If you just want to get fucked with the hooker types, have at it. My personal favorites are the most hesitant naive ones who haven't had sex in months or years though and just want a little cash.

In Medellin, though, I had three dates the first day. I got laid once, was supposed to be laid the following day by a girl who was from Bucaramanga and could be a member of Mensa, and I turned someone down that night. I would probably have been up for the night time girl, but that morning, a Barranquilla fuck machine took care of me.

So it is my second to last day, and this girl contacts me and is a little gun shy. She does not want to meet at the hotel but in the mall. She and I have a great conversation, and I am impressed with her desire for knowledge, her vivacity, and her ambition. She is well put together and is studying in a health care field. She was cute but got better looking as the day went on. No money is mentioned, but she agrees to see me the last morning at my hotel.

One young one flakes on me, but there is a 20 year old coed coming by. She shows up in short shorts, and she is stunning, a sunny cheerleader type. We go back to the room, and for the third time on the trip, I am making out like a teenager and fucking the girl bareback within minutes. She is totally compliant and says no to nothing. One hour, 250 k, and worth every fucking penny.

Bucaramanga Mensa girl flakes out on me. She lost her phone, was supposed to be there at 3, then 4, then 6 and then mall girl texts me, "Hey, you want to get together tonight? She asks.

One of the things I have learned with SA is that when you have a bird in hand, screw (or don't screw) the bird in the Bush no matter how great you think she may be. So I said yes to mall girl and of course, mensa girl then tries to see me. I pushed mensa girl off to the morning and mall girl comes to my place.

Mall girl asks what I like to eat and she breaks out an amazing spread when she gets to my place. She then warms up some lotion and gives me a killer back massage. We then go at it for hours, and I am trying to recall a time that I had better sex. She stays the night, packs my suitcase, and even cleans the room in the morning. I try to give her a gift of payment and she takes nothing and is even a little insulted. It turns out daddy is loaded, and she just wanted to meet an older man.

She is thrilled with me, texts me dozens of times a day, and even when I return to the sex prison, she does phone sex video chats with me every night. This one is beyond SB material. She is in the wife portal.

That is the thing with SA. It is 90 bucks a month and 90 bucks can get you some decent pussy in Colombia. There are the no shows, the singles, the occasional home run, but it is when you hit a fucking grand slam, that SA and that 90 bucks a month is so worth it.

Can the girls message you if you haven't paid the 90. Also do you put a picture up with your profile. I'm assuming wo a picture you won't get hits. Are the pictures of the girls accurate when in person.

Is there a forum section that lists casas in El Poblado. I will be there on 3/9.

[QUOTE=Judd;2422654]Or, you can just go to a casa. I just got back from one. The chica was just as hot as the FB chicas. BBBJ with CIM, for 43 mil + 25 mil propina. Good to go and ready to get on with my day.

Sincerely,

Judd.[/QUOTE]

Whats the transport scene like now since Uber left the country?

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2422894]Whats the transport scene like now since Uber left the country?[/QUOTE]I see some people mention Didi, because the chicas that visited them told them about it.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2422628]What's the deal with tonnes of FB girls posting pictures with suckers / lollipops in their mouths of in their hands.

Also, these seemed to be sold everywhere, there are tonnes of street vendors selling them.

It always puzzled me and thought this might be a good place to ask.[/QUOTE]The street vendors selling them are just trying to survive.

For the pictures of the girls with lollipops in their mouth's, it's advertising, it makes you think of what it would be like to have them sucking your cock, kind of like a strip tease.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2422692]I didn't know MSOG was that big of a problem for some guys.

I try for MSOG with, like, a third of the ones I'm with and for a bit of a tip they are usually receptive.

I think the issue may be what you are doing to them, LOL. I'm pretty vanilla so, for them, it isn't that big a deal to keep on going.

But I've heard girls talk about some other "friends" who like to get rough (especially porn-style throat assault stuff) and I'm thinking its those guys who are having trouble getting one to stick around after that first pop.[/QUOTE]I think you're onto something.

I'm not normally a MSOG guy. My recharge time wasn't super fast when I was in my 20's and it hasn't gotten better. I enjoy a long build up and a long cool down period afterwards. I'm also not a pure jackhammer guy. Pounding a pussy for 30 minutes straight, like I'm trying to break up a section of sidewalk, isn't my style, although it does depend on the girl.

All this leads to longer sessions, which is why I spend more effort on Facebook. Most of the girls, in my experience, are happy to take the time. It has also, on a few occasions led to the girl initiating a second and even a third round. No discussion, no extra charge, no move on my part. Just the girl taking matters into her own hands (or mouth), literally.

Frankly, I thing some guys are trying to over negotiate. They want a notarized contract, stipulating every action (Party be agrees to provide at least 24 inches of mercury vacuum upon the sexual appendage of Party A, orally, without coverage by any type of prophylactic device, for a period, of not less than 7 minutes and 19 seconds).

Then they're disappointed with the mechanical service.

You're not hiring someone to remodel your kitchen. In my opinion, other than a few details, it's better to be flexible. See what works for each girl. You can get many girls to agree to let you pull their hair and spank their ass, for a price, but it's a helluva lot better when you find a girl who gets off on it. Plus, you don't have to pay extra.

If MSOG is your thing, concentrate on making the girl want more. If you leave her with quivering thighs, she's a lot more likely to want round 2, than if you just pound away. Sure, you can get her to agree to it in advance, for a price. But, if she's not into what you're doing, it's just going to be a chore for you and you're paying extra for service that wasn't worth the original price.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2422541]Completely agree with what you have said which is something that can be hard to comprehend for many, myself included. [/QUOTE]Don't worry. I'm sure you'll soon be cussing me out again.

I don't (at least I try) disagree with a particular person. I disagree with what they've written. Sometimes it gets nasty. We all want to protect our sacred cows. But I really don't take it personal. There's not a guy on here that I wouldn't happily sit down and have a beer, coffee, or fruit juice with. I'll even come to them and buy. Within reason. I'm not flying to Copenhagen to buy someone a beer, but if I'm in Copenhagen, hit me up.

Still figuring out dates for my next visit. Now that I can almost afford to take a trip any time, I can't find any time to take a trip.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2422841]I guess that I will finish my SA visit in Medellin here. Tijuana, read the general info for more on SA, but I will start first off by saying that your thought process for using SA is wrong at least for Colombia.


That is the thing with SA. It is 90 bucks a month and 90 bucks can get you some decent pussy in Colombia. There are the no shows, the singles, the occasional home run, but it is when you hit a fucking grand slam, that SA and that 90 bucks a month is so worth it.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the report. I have seen SA mentioned several times on here but this is the most I have seen anyone report on the details of their experience with it.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2422894]Whats the transport scene like now since Uber left the country?[/QUOTE]In Bogota a lady told me that Colombians use Didi. (There's an app for that! She said the cars were not as new but the price was less. I had somebody pull one in online so I'm sure it's a very viable replacement option.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2422894]Whats the transport scene like now since Uber left the country?[/QUOTE]There are several other apps that we use to replace Uber.

I am looking to book a guest friendly place for the spring. I have noticed almost all the AIRBNB rentals have a strict no prostitution policy. Are these policies heavily enforced? I saw some even warned of a fine and eviction. Is Medellin really cracking down on sex tourism? My last stay I did notice that when checking in a chica / guest that I was kinda getting a dirty look. I never checked in more than one per day. I didn't think much of it at the time, but after looking into so many hotels and rentals that openly state they are not guest friendly, its starting to concern me. If anyone is familiar with the situation and could offer some insight as to how Hotels who allow registered guests view people bringing back working girls, that would be really cool. I just don't want to book a hotel that gets pissed at me for bringing girls back.

Has anyone ever had trouble entering Colombia due to the crackdown on sex tourism? I didn't have trouble entering, but returning to the states the customs guy grilled / interrogated the shit out of me. Is Laurelas or another neighborhood more open to mongers than Poblado?

[QUOTE=Villainy;2423028]In Bogota a lady told me that Colombians use Didi. (There's an app for that! She said the cars were not as new but the price was less. I had somebody pull one in online so I'm sure it's a very viable replacement option.[/QUOTE]Yes, Didi works and is cheaper than Uber. I used in all over Colombia.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2422846]Can the girls message you if you haven't paid the 90. Also do you put a picture up with your profile. I'm assuming wo a picture you won't get hits. Are the pictures of the girls accurate when in person.[/QUOTE]You can't message when you don't pay the money. I don't have a picture up, but I do have one that I can give the women access to if they request it. Maybe a picture would help with my hit rate, but I am not putting one up.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2422894]Whats the transport scene like now since Uber left the country?[/QUOTE]I have been using Uber for almost two months in Medellin. Now I use Didi. I must to say, I'm impressed with this Chinese app. It is better than Uber in Medellin. My USA Credit card works great with didi, I get rides faster compared to Uber (probably because didi now gets all uber's traffic), and it is slightly cheaper. The best part is that they automatically translate Spanish chat to English. I have been using it for more than a week, it surpasses Uber in every way.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2422150]

However, if someone comes along interested in learning, I am always happy to offer advice.
[/QUOTE]I have been reading this forum for years, I have spend most of my trips going to Cartagena but even before I ever went to Medellin I would follow the Medellin Reports thread. It is obvious to me that you have little to learn by reading the thread because you have a very good knowledge of everything already, which means that all you do here is provide information and some very wise advice. So thank you.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2422703]........... Then there are girls I can spend 6 hours with and I hate to see them go..........[/QUOTE]If ever I meet a girl like that I may stop mongering.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2423199]If ever I meet a girl like that I may stop mongering.[/QUOTE]Girls like that are why I started mongering.

Problem was, every time I met a girl like that, when she did leave she'd take a chunk of my heart and a chunk of my money with her. I decided it was cheaper to settle the price in advance.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2423047]Is Medellin really cracking down on sex tourism? My last stay I did notice that when checking in a chica / guest that I was kinda getting a dirty look. I never checked in more than one per day. I didn't think much of it at the time, but after looking into so many hotels and rentals that openly state they are not guest friendly.

I didn't have trouble entering, but returning to the states the customs guy grilled / interrogated the shit out of me.[/QUOTE]Njoean, I think you are to something. When I checked into a hotel in Bogota on my first trip to Bogota, I saw the sign up warning the hotel does not support human trafficking. I was like what the fuck? Here in Colombia too?

Unlike a lot of guys in the USA sex prison, I knew what law enforcement, LE, was up to. LE thinks that any money illegally obtained belongs to them. There was a poor kid names Joseph Rivers who was trying to make it in LA. He took the train from Detroit to LA with his life savings, $16,000, on him. A DEA agent just took it in Albuquerque: no warrant, no criminal intent, nothing. Just fucking took the whole thing. If you have a lot of cash on you, these days you have to prove it wasn't drug money.

The problem with prostitution is that is a victim-less crime, and it is hard to get a prosecution, so the feds invented human trafficking as a way to seize money associated with prostitution. Yes, there are some women trafficked, and it is a tragedy, but when LE sets up a sting, you see like a 1,000 arrests for prostitution for every one for trafficking.

For me, when I saw what LE was doing, I was out of the game in the USA. A lot of guys gave me shit about this when I warned them. Then Robert Kraft got busted, and everybody shut up. The woman Kraft got a hand job from was of Chinese origin but she was American, and she didn't testify against him, so how did LE have a case? LE put in a camera in the massage parlor after evacuating the building with a fake bomb scare! This shows you how desperate LE is to seize the money associated with prostitution. The DA in the case droned on and on about trafficking when there was no trafficking.

The reason I am bringing this up is that the ugly hand of American LE may be extending to Medellin. Unlike in Bogota and Barranquilla, I was charged a guest fee in Medellin. The last half dozen or so times that I have come back from Mexico and South America, customs hasn't asked me a question, not one. It was almost a joke.

Not this last time. The customs guy went on and on with questions. He put my passport in a plastic container, and I had to go to a desk that I hadn't been to before. I didn't go to an interrogation room or anything that like that. I go to a desk out in the open and two agents are there. All I was asked was where did I depart from and if I had anything on me from Colombia. I was given my passport and let go after those two questions. This customs agent asking me this didn't grill me like the first one did. In fact, he looked bored.

Does it mean anything? I think so. I am not sure what American LE can do. I think it is against the law for Americans to go abroad for purposes of solely having a sex vacation and being with someone under 18 is illegal as well, but it would be tough to prove.

In Mexico, one chick I saw got her phone stolen by some gangbanger types. They texted me, claimed she was the girl's mother, and said that she was underage, and tried to blackmail me. I knew she wasn't because the hotel let her up to my room and checked her ID. Eventually, the girl got her phone back and explained to me what happened. She could have been in on the whole scam for all I know but I believed her. Still, it was kind of scary that these gangbangers knew how to blackmail an American tourist, and I made up my mind I was not seeing that chica again.

The age of consent was weird in Mexico. In some areas, it is as low as 14, but where I was, it was 18. I asked a different chica what Mexican LE would do if the girl was 16 or so and filed a complaint about me, and she gave me an honest answer, "Nothing. Police don't care about consensual sex. " is what she told me. It was the same thing I read on line.

The American federal government has a very long arm, and I do think that you are onto something, but I am not sure what to do about it. It seems to me that it may be worth considering staying in hotels that do not have an American presence and maybe buying airline tickets once you are in Colombia versus getting them in advance through an American company like Expedia. I think that is where LE would put the pressure the easiest. It wouldn't surprise me at all for the Feds to get a hold of a list of Americans who paid for guest fees and targeting them.

Maybe I am a little paranoid but being paranoid has kept me out of trouble. Between what you posted and what happened to me, maybe LE is stepping up policing of Americans going abroad, and all of us need to put our heads together and come up with strategies to stay out of trouble.

[QUOTE=FortuneWaffers;2422894]Whats the transport scene like now since Uber left the country?[/QUOTE]I had been using Cabify because they were the only app that let me authenticate via WhatsApp. I am mostly using my cellphone via WiFi so far it works for me (need to plan ahead and ask a lot of places for their Wifi passwords).

I pay in cash so there is no real danger of stolen data. Cabify is one of the rideshare options integrated into Google Maps when you ask for directions to a specific address.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2423146]I have been reading this forum for years, I have spend most of my trips going to Cartagena but even before I ever went to Medellin I would follow the Medellin Reports thread. It is obvious to me that you have little to learn by reading the thread because you have a very good knowledge of everything already, which means that all you do here is provide information and some very wise advice. So thank you.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the thanks.

You're wrong about one thing. I learn something new here every day, often from the most unlikely sources. Even if I'm just sharing information or giving advice, I've either learned or remembered something important.

Since I'm here, I'll take a moment to thank all the guys I've disagreed with over the years. Whether it was a minor thing or a death match, I appreciate each of you. You teach me and inspire me, even if you do say "not another long-winded bunch of bullshit from that asshole", when my name pops up. I occasionally say the same, then I read the post and I learn something.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2422998]I think you're onto something.

I'm not normally a MSOG guy. My recharge time wasn't super fast when I was in my 20's and it hasn't gotten better. I enjoy a long build up and a long cool down period afterwards. I'm also not a pure jackhammer guy. Pounding a pussy for 30 minutes straight, like I'm trying to break up a section of sidewalk, isn't my style, although it does depend on the girl.

All this leads to longer sessions, which is why I spend more effort on Facebook. Most of the girls, in my experience, are happy to take the time. It has also, on a few occasions led to the girl initiating a second and even a third round. No discussion, no extra charge, no move on my part. Just the girl taking matters into her own hands (or mouth), literally.

Frankly, I thing some guys are trying to over negotiate. They want a notarized contract, stipulating every action (Party be agrees to provide at least 24 inches of mercury vacuum upon the sexual appendage of Party A, orally, without coverage by any type of prophylactic device, for a period, of not less than 7 minutes and 19 seconds).

Then they're disappointed with the mechanical service.

You're not hiring someone to remodel your kitchen. In my opinion, other than a few details, it's better to be flexible. See what works for each girl. You can get many girls to agree to let you pull their hair and spank their ass, for a price, but it's a helluva lot better when you find a girl who gets off on it. Plus, you don't have to pay extra.

If MSOG is your thing, concentrate on making the girl want more. If you leave her with quivering thighs, she's a lot more likely to want round 2, than if you just pound away. Sure, you can get her to agree to it in advance, for a price. But, if she's not into what you're doing, it's just going to be a chore for you and you're paying extra for service that wasn't worth the original price.[/QUOTE]You hit the nail on the head.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2423264]The American federal government has a very long arm, and I do think that you are onto something, but I am not sure what to do about it. It seems to me that it may be worth considering staying in hotels that do not have an American presence and maybe buying airline tickets once you are in Colombia versus getting them in advance through an American company like Expedia. I think that is where LE would put the pressure the easiest. It wouldn't surprise me at all for the Feds to get a hold of a list of Americans who paid for guest fees and targeting them.

Maybe I am a little paranoid but being paranoid has kept me out of trouble. Between what you posted and what happened to me, maybe LE is stepping up policing of Americans going abroad, and all of us need to put our heads together and come up with strategies to stay out of trouble.[/QUOTE]Perhaps your a little to paranoid about all this. As long as your not doing anyone under the age of 18, and are not doing anything illegal, or have anything illegal with you when returning to the USA you shouldn't be so paranoid. LE has much bigger fish to fry than tracking gringos travelling to Colombia, like stopping illegal immigration and drugs.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2423264]Njoean, I think you are to something. When I checked into a hotel in Bogota on my first trip to Bogota, I saw the sign up warning the hotel does not support human trafficking. I was like what the fuck? Here in Colombia too?

Unlike a lot of guys in the USA sex prison, I knew what law enforcement, LE, was up to. LE thinks that any money illegally obtained belongs to them. There was a poor kid names Joseph Rivers who was trying to make it in LA. He took the train from Detroit to LA with his life savings, $16,000, on him. A DEA agent just took it in Albuquerque: no warrant, no criminal intent, nothing. Just fucking took the whole thing. If you have a lot of cash on you, these days you have to prove it wasn't drug money.

[/QUOTE]I have known about this government scam for quite a while. No seems to care about this abuse. To get your money back you have to go to court. It takes about six months to get a hearing. Unless you can afford the legal costs you are out of luck. If you win you are still out the legal costs. A lot of local governments use the money they take from innocent people to pad their local budgets.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2423264]Njoean, I think you are to something. When I checked into a hotel in Bogota on my first trip to Bogota, I saw the sign up warning the hotel does not support human trafficking. I was like what the fuck? Here in Colombia too?

The problem with prostitution is that is a victim-less crime, and it is hard to get a prosecution, so the feds invented human trafficking

The reason I am bringing this up is that the ugly hand of American LE may be extending to Medellin. Unlike in Bogota and Barranquilla, I was charged a guest fee in Medellin.[/QUOTE]You are way off. Prostitution may be a victimless crime, but human trafficking does exist and is not something made up by America. Hell, HT is much older than America, so how could it be made up by America. Shit. Europeans built the Americas by human trafficking! So it is definitely not something made up by American law enforcement.

I have met plenty of women around the world that were trafficked. Maybe you are thinking they have been initially kidnapped, but it does not work that way. In many cases women will be told they will be working some other job overseas, but when they get there their passport is taken and they are forced into prostitution. (Keeping in mind that people are not only trafficked for prostitution.) It is so bad that the Filipino government makes it very hard for a single woman to leave the country alone.

In other cases a sponsor foots the bill for chicks to come to a certain country. When they arrive, their passports are taken and they have to hook until the sponsor gets whatever is owed back.

I see those signs in many hotels around the world. I saw one the other day in the Ibis Hotel in Rio de Janeiro. Ibis is owned by Accor, which is a French company. So one of those signs inside of a French hotel in Brazil has shit to do with American law enforcement. Those same signs are all over Asia as well.

I am not sure what a guest fee has to do with anything, but in Bogota a lot of hotels will allow you one guest and start charging you after that. Some places will only charge you if someone stays overnight. This is nothing new and has been happening at least since I started going to Colombia in 2005.

Bogota is the first place I even ever heard of guest fees. And it has nothing to do with women or hookers. Many moons ago me and 2 friends had to stay in Bogota for the night in order to go to Cali the next day. We opted for a room with 3 beds to save money. The next day at checkout we were charged the same as if we would have gotten 3 seperate rooms. This was because they charge by the person (no matter the sex) and not by the room as many of us are used to.

They also operate like this in Cali. I have never experienced these charges in hotels that are American chains. If you suspect American law enforcement is responsible for any of this, then it would make more sense for these practices to be seen in American hotels. But it is the exact opposite. You just have to be clear of the rules of the hotel you are staying in.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2423264]I think it is against the law for Americans to go abroad for purposes of solely having a sex vacation[/QUOTE]No it is not. I have come back into the USA and told immigration that is exactly what I was doing and they told me to have a good day.

I agree completely but I can't help but wonder what legitimate purpose there is in 2020 to be carrying US $10,000+ in cash. We have to admit it looks suspicious.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2423307]I have known about this government scam for quite a while. No seems to care about this abuse. To get your money back you have to go to court. It takes about six months to get a hearing. Unless you can afford the legal costs you are out of luck. If you win you are still out the legal costs. A lot of local governments use the money they take from innocent people to pad their local budgets.[/QUOTE]

You had problems with a USA credit card using uber?

[QUOTE=SJobs;2423142]I have been using Uber for almost two months in Medellin. Now I use Didi. I must to say, I'm impressed with this Chinese app. It is better than Uber in Medellin. My USA Credit card works great with didi, I get rides faster compared to Uber (probably because didi now gets all uber's traffic), and it is slightly cheaper. The best part is that they automatically translate Spanish chat to English. I have been using it for more than a week, it surpasses Uber in every way.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2423309]No it is not. I have come back into the USA and told immigration that is exactly what I was doing and they told me to have a good day.[/QUOTE]You got balls to tell immigration that you were banging hookers in a foreign Country. One day you may run into a "holy roller" who will send you to secondary and give you a bunch of shit and will later let you go.

But I suppose in your case, if you were speaking to the immigration officers like you do in some of your posts, they were probably so "shell shocked" by all the nasty details of your escapades they didn't know what to think, except to give you a funny look and let you go.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2423142] I have been using it for more than a week, it surpasses Uber in every way.[/QUOTE]This true since years ago, and not just this. Have you been to China?

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2423343]You had problems with a USA credit card using uber?[/QUOTE]No more Uber in Columbia, try DiDi when you get there. Can't active it in the states, since no service here.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2423356]You got balls to tell immigration that you were banging hookers in a foreign Country.[/QUOTE]Not really, but he is drawing attention to himself.

Your title implication is incorrect. For the US citizen / resident, it is only illegal to travel to pay for sex only when that person is a minor.

[URL]https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/is-sex-tourism-against-law.htm[/URL]

I've had male immigration officials ask me which countries I've been to. I tell them, but I never mention girls. Sometimes they ask, how are the girls, and then give me an envious smile, and then tell me to have a nice day.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2423343]You had problems with a USA credit card using uber?[/QUOTE]What? Of course not. Uber is an American company and didi is Chinese, I had a ton of issues using my US credit card, debit card and checking account with WeChat. Until this day, I still don't have my bank connected to wechat, the only option to connect to wechat pay is to get a Chinese bank account, and it turned out if you are an US citizen it is hard to open a Chinese bank account.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2423264]. I think it is against the law for Americans to go abroad for purposes of solely having a sex vacation and being with someone under 18 is illegal as well, but it would be tough to prove.
.[/QUOTE]It is only illegal if the person is under the age of 18! Need we be reminded that prostitution is also legal in parts of Nevada. Mr E is correct that trafficking does exist and that many women are doing it against their will, its one of the reasons I never mongered when visiting western europe, because places like Italy and France are awash with women who were trafficked from eastern europe. The legal definition of trafficking though simply requires a third person who is making money off the transaction who is not directly involved in the sex, or when the girl is not of legal age of consent. So when you see on the news that people are charged with trafficking that is just old fashion pimping.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2423468]It is only illegal if the person is under the age of 18![/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, Mojo! I wasn't sure. I did see LE prosecute some companies promoting sex tourism. It must have been sex and minors.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2423468]The legal definition of trafficking though simply requires a third person who is making money off the transaction who is not directly involved in the sex, or when the girl is not of legal age of consent. So when you see on the news that people are charged with trafficking that is just old fashion pimping.[/QUOTE]I know what you mean, and I didn't mean to say there is no human trafficking, but if you look at what LE is doing, they set up stings and net 1 guy trafficking and charge like a 1,000 guys with prostiution, and LE is going after men.

American LE has said that they think the way to stop trafficking is to stop men from paying for sex. Look it up. That is how they got Kraft. If you are paying for sex in the sex prison, LE's attitude is that you are supporting trafficking even if the woman has no pimp and is not trafficked.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2423356]You got balls to tell immigration that you were banging hookers in a foreign Country...........[/QUOTE]Sometimes the balls is just to say so on ISG. Let a gullible reader do the same and see where that leads him. Once I was re-entering the US and stupidly tried to speak Spanish with the Latina immigration officer. It went ok initially then she said something and I had no idea what she said and it did not end well for me. I will not go into details, the less I recall of that encounter the better.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2423489]Sometimes the balls is just to say so on ISG. Let a gullible reader do the same and see where that leads him. Once I was re-entering the US and stupidly tried to speak Spanish with the Latina immigration officer. It went ok initially then she said something and I had no idea what she said and it did not end well for me. I will not go into details, the less I recall of that encounter the better.[/QUOTE]

Just out of curiosity, are you a US citizen?

P.S: With all government officials I only talk on need to know basis. I never talk more than its required.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2423489]Sometimes the balls is just to say so on ISG. Let a gullible reader do the same and see where that leads him. Once I was re-entering the US and stupidly tried to speak Spanish with the Latina immigration officer. It went ok initially then she said something and I had no idea what she said and it did not end well for me. I will not go into details, the less I recall of that encounter the better.[/QUOTE]I believe Mr. E did tell immigration what he was doing, albeit using softer words than saying he was banging hookers.

Regardless, how could speaking Spanish with an immigration officer go badly for you. If you didn't understand something she said I'm assuming you reverted back to English. And why would you speak with a US immigration officer in Spanish to begin with, unless perhaps your a Latino or native speaker.

Sounds like you insulted her somehow, maybe you said something in Spanish not knowing what you said really means, and don't get me wrong, that happens to me a lot. As an example, to say "I don't care" you would say "no importa", however to say "I don't give a fuck" you would say "no me importa".

So I guess you learned your lesson and haven't been practicing your Spanish with US Latina immigration officers anymore, however in speaking with women Colombian immigration officers, they will light up and give you a nice smile for doing so, but perhaps they will be laughing at your Spanish.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2423489]Once I was re-entering the US and stupidly tried to speak Spanish with the Latina immigration officer. It went ok initially then she said something and I had no idea what she said and it did not end well for me. I will not go into details, the less I recall of that encounter the better.[/QUOTE]

You have not elaborated how bad it ended up for you. Plenty of people enter US not knowing English everyday.

What do you think the immigration think what sex vacation is?

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2423533]Just out of curiosity, are you a US citizen?
P.S: With all government officials I only talk on need to know basis. I never talk more than its required.[/QUOTE]Last fall, I went to and came back from Colombia three times within a month-and-a-half. Brief forays. The second time, there were questions. The third time (this was in Nashville) it was back to the small room, with bags open where they tried some chummy talk. The agent (50+ or so) tells me his nephew told him there were lots of girls there, it that true, what's it like? I told him: 'yeah, I don't doubt that's true but that's a mans' game, I'm too old for that. ' hahaha. Right answer.

If you make a cita with a chica for 3 PM, it is reasonable to expect her to arrive at 3:30 PM. If she shows up after 4 PM, turn her sorry ass away without taxi money. After that she will be on time. I have had girls swear they are in the taxi and send me photos with different date stamps or show up in different clothing than they are wearing in the 'look see I'm in the taxi' photo. You can also request girls send you their location via Google Maps and you can track their progress. All my regulars now do this so I can 'be ready for their arrival'. Given the chronic inability of chicas to keep citas I had to assume most guys sit in their apartments with their dicks in their hand for however long it takes her to show. But if most of us didn't. Rant off.

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2423533]Just out of curiosity, are you a US citizen?

P.S: With all government officials I only talk on need to know basis. I never talk more than its required.[/QUOTE]I take a different approach. I'm back at my old job, where I travel in and out of Canada twice a week. I couldn't resist. My old boss offered me a 40% raise to do the same thing I was doing 3 years ago. Cross border traffic is way down from 3 years ago, so I get paid more for less hassle.

That means dealing with 4 border patrol agents (2 Canadian, 2 US) every week. I smile, greet them, and hand over my paperwork and passport card. If there's an opportunity for a few words, I'll toss them in. "Stay warm", "have a good night" or just a quick thanks helps. They're mostly bored, scanning in 50 people per hour, stuck alone in a little booth. In 6 months most will recognize me and look forward to passing me through.

If nothing else, I'm the relaxed, smiling guy with nothing to hide.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2423589]If you make a cita with a chica for 3 PM, it is reasonable to expect her to arrive at 3:30 PM. If she shows up after 4 PM, turn her sorry ass away without taxi money. After that she will be on time. I have had girls swear they are in the taxi and send me photos with different date stamps or show up in different clothing than they are wearing in the 'look see I'm in the taxi' photo. You can also request girls send you their location via Google Maps and you can track their progress. All my regulars now do this so I can 'be ready for their arrival'. Given the chronic inability of chicas to keep citas I had to assume most guys sit in their apartments with their dicks in their hand for however long it takes her to show. But if most of us didn't. Rant off.[/QUOTE]If I want her there by 3, I'm telling her 2. If you know the rules of the game, use them to your advantage. If she's someone I have experience with, I'll cut her some slack. Things happen.

From my end, I'm sitting around picking out a woman to fuck me. From her end? She needs someone to watch the kids. Her hair needs washed. The clothes she wants to wear are dirty and she needs to pick out something else. The friend who'll watch the kids is cooking dinner and needs 15 more minutes, but takes 30, then her boyfriend shows up and she can't. Now she needs to find someone else. She needs someone to loan her 20 k for the taxi. She needs to walk 6 blocks to find a taxi. There's a wreck on the autopista.

After doing all that and spending the 20 k, she has to figure out how to get back to Bello with no money? And what do I get out of it? The satisfaction of spitting on a poor person?

I'm on vacation. I'm drinking cheap beer, eating cheap food and fucking young, beautiful women for less than I spend on a good steak dinner. Why create stress with artificial deadlines? Why punish myself, to flex my muscles at someone? Sure. I taught her a lesson. Now I get to go pick out someone else, wait 2 hours and maybe turn her away too. I could end up wasting 6 hours before having to resort to a trip to a strip club to get what I had knocking at my door.

Some girls lie about being on the way. They need the money and don't want to miss out. Frankly, most are terrible at time management. Their lives are a never ending train wreck, stumbling from one problem to the next.

Instead of screwing them and screwing myself (by turning away the woman who wants to screw me), I try to avoid the problem.

Tell her ahead of time that you need her to be on time. Give her enough time to deal with her home situation. Ask if she's certain she can be on time. "A las 3 o es 4 mejor para ti?" Let her know to keep you updated if any problems come up. Ask where she's coming from. Remind her about the traffic. Give her the opportunity to put it off until tomorrow.

Clearly she's someone you want to fuck, otherwise you wouldn't be talking with her. Find a way to make it happen.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2423595]I take a different approach. I'm back at my old job, where I travel in and out of Canada twice a week. I couldn't resist. My old boss offered me a 40% raise to do the same thing I was doing 3 years ago. Cross border traffic is way down from 3 years ago, so I get paid more for less hassle.

That means dealing with 4 border patrol agents (2 Canadian, 2 US) every week. I smile, greet them, and hand over my paperwork and passport card. If there's an opportunity for a few words, I'll toss them in. "Stay warm", "have a good night" or just a quick thanks helps. They're mostly bored, scanning in 50 people per hour, stuck alone in a little booth. In 6 months most will recognize me and look forward to passing me through.

If nothing else, I'm the relaxed, smiling guy with nothing to hide.[/QUOTE]It never hurts to be nice to people especially when it's sincere. You understand their situation and try to make it a little better in your short interactions with them. How refreshing to see such a positive person. Same thing with police at home and abroad. A little respect as long as it's not overdone. Works with most working girls too.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2422998]I think you're onto something.


Frankly, I think some guys are trying to over negotiate. They want a notarized contract, stipulating every action (Party be agrees to provide at least 24 inches of mercury vacuum upon the sexual appendage of Party A, orally, without coverage by any type of prophylactic device, for a period, of not less than 7 minutes and 19 seconds).

Then they're disappointed with the mechanical service.

You're not hiring someone to remodel your kitchen. In my opinion, other than a few details, it's better to be flexible. See what works for each girl. You can get many girls to agree to let you pull their hair and spank their ass, for a price, but it's a helluva lot better when you find a girl who gets off on it. Plus, you don't have to pay extra.

If MSOG is your thing, concentrate on making the girl want more. If you leave her with quivering thighs, she's a lot more likely to want round 2, than if you just pound away. Sure, you can get her to agree to it in advance, for a price. But, if she's not into what you're doing, it's just going to be a chore for you and you're paying extra for service that wasn't worth the original price.[/QUOTE]I would much rather not try to knock a girl down on price. But rather just have her come over and get her to spend the day or night and just get a lot more out of her after we have met. But that is because I can get a lot more out of them. Some guys can't. Hell as soon as the chicks show up at some guys places they want to leave immediately. And those are the guys that need to negotiate very thing they want for a set price. Or they aren't going to get anything they want without and up-sell and then some.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2423462]and it turned out if you are an US citizen it is hard to open a Chinese bank account.[/QUOTE]It's hard to open a Chinese bank account for all foreigners now. This is a new development for the past three years or so. It has to do with frauds and scams because it is too easy to transfer money in China. You can pay for sex using wechat but these are cash transactions, not credit card.

A person used to be able to bring passport to the bank and be out within 30 minutes with a new account. I was so impressed at the time how efficient it was.

They also limit forefinger usage because I can't use it outside of China.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2423589] You can also request girls send you their location via Google Maps and you can track their progress. .[/QUOTE]You can also track their location using Facebook Messenger, have them click on (touch on a phone I guess) the four blue dots at the bottom left of the screen when their chat is open with you, this reveals a blue circle with a white arrow looking icon, says "location" below it, the push that and it sends you their location. I've used it a couple of times and was even able to guide the chicas taxi away from heavier traffic areas toward faster route by checking traffic on Google Maps while they are sending the location. Many taxi drivers don't use GPS, let alone check traffic on Google Maps, once a chicas taxi was coming from Bello to Energy Living, and he was going to go all the way to Calle 10 which was all bumper to bumper red on Google Maps, do I told her to tell him to take Las Palmas to Transversal Inferior and shave 15 minutes.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2423595]I take a different approach. I'm back at my old job, where I travel in and out of Canada twice a week. I couldn't resist. My old boss offered me a 40% raise to do the same thing I was doing 3 years ago. Cross border traffic is way down from 3 years ago, so I get paid more for less hassle.

That means dealing with 4 border patrol agents (2 Canadian, 2 US) every week. I smile, greet them, and hand over my paperwork and passport card. If there's an opportunity for a few words, I'll toss them in. "Stay warm", "have a good night" or just a quick thanks helps. They're mostly bored, scanning in 50 people per hour, stuck alone in a little booth. In 6 months most will recognize me and look forward to passing me through.

If nothing else, I'm the relaxed, smiling guy with nothing to hide.[/QUOTE]You said earlier I might be cussing you out or perhaps busting your chops so here goes.

Nice story, but what does this have to do with the experiences people are having when returning from Colombia to the US.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2423489]Sometimes the balls is just to say so on ISG. Let a gullible reader do the same and see where that leads him. Once I was re-entering the US and stupidly tried to speak Spanish with the Latina immigration officer. It went ok initially then she said something and I had no idea what she said and it did not end well for me. I will not go into details, the less I recall of that encounter the better.[/QUOTE]I always tell the immigration officers the true purpose of my travels and they clearly appreciate the honesty. Last year one officer told me he had a suspicious guy earlier that day he had to question extensively until the guy finally admitted what I blurted out immediately. Other times they replied "smart man", "keep moving" and "thanks for your honesty". It's definitely not an issue with immigration.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2423661]I always tell the immigration officers the true purpose of my travels and they clearly appreciate the honesty. Last year one officer told me he had a suspicious guy earlier that day he had to question extensively until the guy finally admitted what I blurted out immediately. Other times they replied "smart man", "keep moving" and "thanks for your honesty". It's definitely not an issue with immigration.[/QUOTE]For those with Global Entry and SENTRI, I would be concerned about telling immigration officers about the true purpose of your travels as it might affect your ability to renew into these programs at a later date.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2423656]You said earlier I might be cussing you out or perhaps busting your chops so here goes.

Nice story, but what does this have to do with the experiences people are having when returning from Colombia to the US.[/QUOTE]Customs and Border Patrol. I see the connection.

Last month coming from Asia I was stopped, questioned and had my suitcase emptied out and searched. Of course nothing illegal founded. He went thru my meds and asked what each one was, they were all in compartment plastic box without any script. He came to the blue pills and I said Viagra, he was a little embarrassed and quickly put them all away.

BTW, there were 2 officers doing the search. Possibly a slow night for them.

A few times in the past coming from Manila thru Guam I have been asked “how are the girls?”, I respond “pretty dang good” but never say I paid money for services.

Know your rights as an American returning from overseas.

You have rights.

[URL]https://www.aclunc.org/our-work/know-your-rights/know-your-rights-us-airports-and-ports-entry[/URL]

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2423623]I would much rather not try to knock a girl down on price. But rather just have her come over and get her to spend the day or night and just get a lot more out of her after we have met. But that is because I can get a lot more out of them. Some guys can't. Hell as soon as the chicks show up at some guys places they want to leave immediately. And those are the guys that need to negotiate very thing they want for a set price. Or they aren't going to get anything they want without and up-sell and then some.[/QUOTE]That's exactly right.

Every single guy obviously is different.

Some guys just give off a cool, relaxed, 'me gusta mucho estar aquí con el' , I dig being with this guy, Vibe.

Others, not so much, LOL.

Your comment on how the chica wants to split as soon as she arrives, is true.

Like many of us I imagine, I've befriended many of these girls thru the years.

They tell me some funny stories of mostly gringos.

We all have our strengths and weaknesses; looks, money, personality, health, fitness, spanish, etc.

Just play to your strength.

Enjoy.

Hit Parque Lleras a couple nights last week.

Man has that place gone down hill!

The quality of the chicas walking the park is looooooow! IMO.

Looks like they opened the gates for every barrio rata to show up.

Really.

I was stunned at the lack of any quality really.

It was a gringo fest as well.

Felt like I was in some US city where they allowed ugly Colombian hookers to walk about.

I think of the many chicas I saw, maybe 5 doable for me, maybe.

True, this is all my opinion, but damn it was nasty, and trannies all over as well.

Sad really.

I remember when the park was full of real Colombianas, not working girls, but hot!

Fun to gaze and possibly chat.

Not anymore.

Didn't hit Gustos, just not my thing, though I know some of you guys dig it.

On another note.

On a whim, I got into the FB game.

This one girl and I hit it off online, went to WhatsApp, we met up.

Never talked money, we kinda played the lovey dovey thing online, LOL.

I knew I was going to help her out though, I always do.

It's a tough life there.

She came over and just punished me! LOL.

Like a total nympho, I had to raise the white flag, LOL.

I can see why FB scene has taken off!

Great chance to hit it with semi pro types.

Fun!

Botero was a total winner for me too!

The Vennies Rock!

I speak good Spanish, lived in Caracas a bit, I can speak some Venezuelan smack, LOL.

They laugh and like it.

Waaaay better than the Lleras ratas, Imo.

Enjoy guys!

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2423047]I am looking to book a guest friendly place for the spring. I have noticed almost all the AIRBNB rentals have a strict no prostitution policy. Are these policies heavily enforced? I saw some even warned of a fine and eviction. Is Medellin really cracking down on sex tourism? My last stay I did notice that when checking in a chica / guest that I was kinda getting a dirty look. I never checked in more than one per day. I didn't think much of it at the time, but after looking into so many hotels and rentals that openly state they are not guest friendly, its starting to concern me. If anyone is familiar with the situation and could offer some insight as to how Hotels who allow registered guests view people bringing back working girls, that would be really cool. I just don't want to book a hotel that gets pissed at me for bringing girls back.

Has anyone ever had trouble entering Colombia due to the crackdown on sex tourism? I didn't have trouble entering, but returning to the states the customs guy grilled / interrogated the shit out of me. Is Laurelas or another neighborhood more open to mongers than Poblado?[/QUOTE]Assume most Airbnb's don't want sex tourists. Nothing new. Just they are realizing they have to state it explicitly. Most Airbnb's are in peoples homes or in residential areas. Why would this be surprising.

Hotels. Sure, probably more than in the past. There is a movement to discourage or stop sex tourism. Little posters in some hotels, etc. Again. Not a big surprise due to so many stupid mongers. Sorry, I'm one of them.

So. Basically you have to ask. Airbnb, hotel, whatever. What is your guest policy.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2423656]You said earlier I might be cussing you out or perhaps busting your chops so here goes.

Nice story, but what does this have to do with the experiences people are having when returning from Colombia to the US.[/QUOTE]It's the same game, just a different field.

The CB and P people at the airport are doing the same thing as the people at the border crossings. They have only 2 responsibilities:

1. Make sure you're legal to enter.

2. Make sure you're not bringing in anything illegal.

That's it. They have no legal authority over what you did in the foreign country. The most they can do is hold you and turn you over to the appropriate authorities. They're only asking to decide whether or not you might be bringing in anything illegal.

In your case, the amount of contraband you can bring in is limited by the capacity of your luggage and your ass. Maybe a few kilos. In my case, I could smuggle about 45 tons each week, each direction. That's without sticking anything in my ass.

In either case, if you're relaxed, smiling and open, you're a lot less suspicious than if you're worried about what questions they're going to ask you.

My finest moment:

I got sent around to go through x-ray. Usually they would also send me inside for a paperwork verification, but they didn't mention it. Just to be safe, I went inside to ask if I was cleared to go.

"Can I help you?" "I don't think I need to see you, but I want to make sure." "Did you go through x-ray?" "Yes. " "Did they find anything?" "They said I have 2 cavities. " "What? They're not supposed to x-ray you." "It's part of my health insurance plan.'

At which point the CBP officer said "ah. Obamacare. " The whole place busted up.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2423747]

That's it. They have no legal authority over what you did in the foreign country. The most they can do is hold you and turn you over to the appropriate authorities. They're only asking to decide whether or not you might be bringing in anything illegal.

In your case, the amount of contraband you can bring in is limited by the capacity of your luggage and your ass. Maybe a few kilos. In my case, I could smuggle about 45 tons each week, each direction. That's without sticking anything in my ass.

[/QUOTE]Each time I have returned from Colombia the first stop and so then my Border Patrol / Customs experience is always Miami. I think maybe the third time a BP agent ask me on a return from Cartagena, "why Cartagena?" and I said "its a beautiful city. You should visit" and he said "what about the women?" and I said "just as beautiful". He smiled. I never even suspected that he might have known I was mongering until you guys started this conversation. Other than that time though I have never been questioned more than asking me the purpose of my visit, and I always just say "vacation".

That being said, I remember when leaving Colombia was a whole different show than it is now. I cannot attest to what Medellin was like but ten years ago when I would leave Cartagena, before the airport was as big as it is now, it was like something out of bad movie about a foreign country, guys standing / sitting around in Army uniforms toting machine guns and opening your suitcases on tables and sending me to the conveyor belt x ray machine. It would have done no good to stick it in my ass LOL.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2423712]Hit Parque Lleras a couple nights last week.
Didn't hit Gustos, just not my thing, though I know some of you guys dig it.
On another note.
On a whim, I got into the FB game.
This one girl and I hit it off online, went to WhatsApp, we met up.
Never talked money, we kinda played the lovey dovey thing online, LOL.
I knew I was going to help her out though, I always do.
It's a tough life there.
She came over and just punished me! LOL.
Like a total nympho, I had to raise the white flag, LOL.
I can see why FB scene has taken off!
Great chance to hit it with semi pro types.
Fun!
Botero was a total winner for me too!
The Vennies Rock!
I speak good Spanish, lived in Caracas a bit, I can speak some Venezuelan smack, LOL.
They laugh and like it.
Waaaay better than the Lleras ratas, Imo.
Enjoy guys![/QUOTE]I had a very good time in Parque Lleras. Only complaint was that it was expensive. If I am flying to another country, I don't want to pay near USA rates to party. I too noticed you had to weed out some of the trashier WGs in Lleras, but if you went into some of the clubs, you could find some very decent ones for around 200 k, solid 7's and some 8's. They were fun to party and drink with as well. Gusto had a decent number of 8's, maybe some 9's as well. To me they didn't seem old LOL, but I have noticed on this forum that anything over 24 years old for WGs is considered old, so I guess they were in the mid to late twenties range, but definately some younger ones too. They were asking for 200 USD for all night in Gustos. I made the best of Lleras and compared to local party scene where I live, it was well worth the money I spent. I have no regrets and can't wait for round two.

So, my question is. Your saying Botero Plaza is "Better Than Parque Lleras" in sheer terms of quality of girls and enjoyment?

I understand its definately cheaper, but the girls are hotter and funner to hang with? I never made it out to Botero, but I keep reading better and better things. I am a bigger guy and have no problem in terms of safety in any American city, but obviously I know even in American cities no matter how tough you are there are certain neighborhoods you just don't fuck with. Number 1- theres no reason to go there, no girls, bars, etc. Number 2- Crime and Poverty is rampant. I read on some sources that Botero Plaza / Centro is a crime and poverty ridden neighborhood and other people swear its awesome. I have a high risk tolerance, but I am not stupid. Is it just plain stupid for me to party there at night? Everywhere I read it says once its gets dark, gringos should get out of there.

Are Centro and Lleras the only areas to find quality WGs? What would my chances be of finding a quality WG in Laureles around 70th street nightlife? On my last trip I never made it out of Parque Lleras, but I definately want to explore the city more.

I also really want to give Facebook a try, but I don't have a Facebook account. I also don't want to create a Facebook account and fill it up with Colombian WGs for my family, friends, and co-workers to see LOL. Sorry, never had a Facebook account. Is there a way to create a fake profile, or somehow create a FB profile which is only active in Colombia and hidden to people who would know me in the US?

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2423722]Assume most Airbnb's don't want sex tourists. Nothing new. Just they are realizing they have to state it explicitly. Most Airbnb's are in peoples homes or in residential areas. Why would this be surprising.

Hotels. Sure, probably more than in the past. There is a movement to discourage or stop sex tourism. Little posters in some hotels, etc. Again. Not a big surprise due to so many stupid mongers. Sorry, I'm one of them.

So. Basically you have to ask. Airbnb, hotel, whatever. What is your guest policy.[/QUOTE]I just don't want to stay at a place and bring WGs back and start getting the evil eye from the staff like last time LOL. Narrowing my trip hotel choices down to Poblado Plaza, Lloyds, Maderio, Holiday Inn, or maybe go all out and stay at Dann Carlton if I can catch it at a good sale rate. Sorry for listing hotels, but these are pretty prominent Hotels on any website search, so I figured it won't make too big a difference. Anybody have any experience mongering at any of these places?

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2423817]

I also really want to give Facebook a try, but I don't have a Facebook account. I also don't want to create a Facebook account and fill it up with Colombian WGs for my family, friends, and co-workers to see LOL. Sorry, never had a Facebook account. Is there a way to create a fake profile, or somehow create a FB profile which is only active in Colombia and hidden to people who would know me in the US?[/QUOTE]Everybody makes a fake FB account for their supply of Bello chicas. I just have to warn that after cambridge Analytica scandal FB is actively suspending accounts which feels like a fake account.

My advice is to add the girls slowly, also add some guys to your account, mostly other mongers and give your FB 3 months to have a collection of 200 Bello beauties in your friend list.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2423564]You have not elaborated how bad it ended up for you. Plenty of people enter US not knowing English everyday.

What do you think the immigration think what sex vacation is?[/QUOTE]It was actually quite foolish on my part. I thought my Spanish was improving as I had successfully interacted with some working girls while in Medellin. Landing at the airport and happening upon this Latina immigration officer I thought I'd give my Spanish a try. It went well for the first couple exchanges but then she would have discovered that I was not a Spanish speaker at all and somehow that might have pissed her off. After I left immigration I was met by some officers who ushered me into a room and gave me the third degree obviously at the behest of the immigration officer.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2423661]I always tell the immigration officers the true purpose of my travels and they clearly appreciate the honesty. Last year one officer told me he had a suspicious guy earlier that day he had to question extensively until the guy finally admitted what I blurted out immediately. Other times they replied "smart man", "keep moving" and "thanks for your honesty". It's definitely not an issue with immigration.[/QUOTE]I will never tell the Immigration officer the true purpose of my travels, I'm not that stupid. I have learnt from my previous interactions with immigration officers. Always answer the questions of the officer never volunteer information and speak in your native language. Question: What was the purpose of your trip? Answer: Tourism. To any monger who follows the advice given by posters on this site and answers "having sex with prostitutes', you get what you deserve. Immigration officers are human and action from them varies from one to the other and sometimes on a whim. They have great power over you and at the time you have no recourse. The least that can happen to you is much inconvenience and embarrassment. The worst, your guess is as good as mine.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2423817]I made the best of Lleras and compared to local party scene where I live, it was well worth the money I spent. I have no regrets and can't wait for round two.

So, my question is. Your saying Botero Plaza is "Better Than Parque Lleras" in sheer terms of quality of girls and enjoyment?

I understand its definately cheaper, but the girls are hotter and funner to hang with? I never made it out to Botero, but I keep reading better and better things.[/QUOTE]You probably would not like Botero. It is nothing like Lleras where people go to party and it is nothing like the local party scene where you live. It is just hookers out trying to make some money. There, you have to be in charge of creating your own fun.

Why don't you ever see Colombian guys picking up chicks in Parque Lleras?

After missing my connecting flight in Bogota (not enough time to get through immigration), it was a long day. Made the mistake of getting a freelance taxi driver. I'm sure I paid too much at 80 k, but at least he was honest and delivered me to my hotel. He even paid for the tunnel himself for that price. Arrived at the Nutibara Hotel around 1 pm.

I went out to look for some fruit around 3 pm. I got a pineapple, 4 large avocados and this type of fruit that seems to be like a pear but is pink inside and has lots of hard seeds (didn't like it and threw it away). The pineapple and avocado were really good.

Unpacked and took a nap. Loud noise outside with the fruit sellers calling out on loud speakers so I popped in some ear plugs. Got up around 6:30 pm and walked toward Conjetas. Still lots of people around. Stopped at a restaurant and ordered a chicken dinner and beer 8300 pesos). Went to Conjetas where I was warmly greeted. Drank too much beer. Mostly girls I wasn't attracted to, but also couldn't see anyone taking girls for sexo. Went to a little bar on a side street and bought a girl a drink but my phone had no data so couldn't communicate on google translate. She was trying to break a world record for drinking her beer so I bounced before she could ask for another. I was kind of frustrated by then so I walked over to Botero plaza and grabbed the second SW who approached me. I gave her 50 k and still she kept trying to up-sell me. I know, I should have done a lot of things differently. Not a good experience. Total for all my mistakes yesterday: about $100. We'll let's see if I can do better today!

On the point of safety here, it seems chaotic but there are lots of people and police around even at 10:30 pm on a Friday night. I didn't feel unsafe.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2423665]For those with Global Entry and SENTRI, I would be concerned about telling immigration officers about the true purpose of your travels as it might affect your ability to renew into these programs at a later date.[/QUOTE]I've had Global Entry since 2013 and so had to renew it in 2018. I discussed my hobby with the officer during the interview in Maimi. He asked me what county was best and I told him I like the Paisas in Colombia. He said he has heard the Paisas are beautiful and would love to make a trip to Medellin. Our hobby is definitely not an issue with USA Immigration.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2423874]I will never tell the Immigration officer the true purpose of my travels, I'm not that stupid. I have learnt from my previous interactions with immigration officers. Always answer the questions of the officer never volunteer information and speak in your native language. Question: What was the purpose of your trip? Answer: Tourism. To any monger who follows the advice given by posters on this site and answers "having sex with prostitutes', you get what you deserve. Immigration officers are human and action from them varies from one to the other and sometimes on a whim. They have great power over you and at the time you have no recourse. The least that can happen to you is much inconvenience and embarrassment. The worst, your guess is as good as mine.[/QUOTE]I totally agree.

They are all individuals, mostly cool I've found.

I travel international quite frequently, probably like a lot of us here.

There are some, however, that may or can turn something you say into something else, etc.

I just keep it friendly and simple, no sly remarks, etc.

Why do that?

Like Turgid said, even after everything gets cleared up, you've still most likely been greatly inconvenienced.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2423817]I had a very good time in Parque Lleras. Only complaint was that it was expensive. If I am flying to another country, I don't want to pay near USA rates to party. I too noticed you had to weed out some of the trashier WGs in Lleras, but if you went into some of the clubs, you could find some very decent ones for around 200 k, solid 7's and some 8's. They were fun to party and drink with as well. Gusto had a decent number of 8's, maybe some 9's as well. To me they didn't seem old LOL, but I have noticed on this forum that anything over 24 years old for WGs is considered old, so I guess they were in the mid to late twenties range, but definately some younger ones too. They were asking for 200 USD for all night in Gustos. I made the best of Lleras and compared to local party scene where I live, it was well worth the money I spent. I have no regrets and can't wait for round two.

[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2423896]You probably would not like Botero. It is nothing like Lleras where people go to party and it is nothing like the local party scene where you live. It is just hookers out trying to make some money. There, you have to be in charge of creating your own fun.

Why don't you ever see Colombian guys picking up chicks in Parque Lleras?[/QUOTE]I agree w Mr Ent.

If you like P Lleras and that scene, and those girls there, you most likely won't like Botero.

Go out to Botero and take a look though, there are all shapes and sizes out there.
More of an afternoon to dusk type endeavor and definitely dont expect a P Lleras atmosphere at all.
Keep an eye on your stuff, your pockets, dont flash your phone, wallet, etc.
Doesnt matter how big you are, they just hit quick and run.
Theyre (the lurking thieves) arent there to fight you, just looking for a quick grab and run.

I personally like Botero, but others are definitely better suited by the insulated P Lleras / el Poblado scene.

I cant stand when those Lleras chicas approach and say Hola, fuky fuky, sucky, sucky.
Im not into the chicas who’ve been w lots of gringos.
I have nothing against gringos, Im one as well, Lol.

The girls normally get spoiled and ruined though.
Not my thing.

I like and Im good at the hunt for unspoiled talent.

Also, I have seen Veracruz and Mayorista girls walking Lleras.

Quite a few actually.

They've found where to find the quick peso from the gringo.

Definitely get on FB though.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2423817]I had a very good time in Parque Lleras. Only complaint was that it was expensive. If I am flying to another country, I don't want to pay near USA rates to party. I too noticed you had to weed out some of the trashier WGs in Lleras, but if you went into some of the clubs, you could find some very decent ones for around 200 k, solid 7's and some 8's. They were fun to party and drink with as well. Gusto had a decent number of 8's, maybe some 9's as well. To me they didn't seem old LOL, but I have noticed on this forum that anything over 24 years old for WGs is considered old, so I guess they were in the mid to late twenties range, but definately some younger ones too. They were asking for 200 USD for all night in Gustos. I made the best of Lleras and compared to local party scene where I live, it was well worth the money I spent. I have no regrets and can't wait for round two.

So, my question is. Your saying Botero Plaza is "Better Than Parque Lleras" in sheer terms of quality of girls and enjoyment?

I understand its definately cheaper, but the girls are hotter and funner to hang with? I never made it out to Botero, but I keep reading better and better things. I am a bigger guy and have no problem in terms of safety in any American city, but obviously I know even in American cities no matter how tough you are there are certain neighborhoods you just don't fuck with.[/QUOTE][B]On Botero[/B]

Plaza Botero isn't a party zone. It's a open plaza area full of Fernando Botero's statues. People come from all over the world to take selfies with the statues, often with their hand in an inappropriate place. On one side of the Plaza is the Museum of Antioquia. On the other side is the Palace of Culture. Both are worth a visit.

With the influx of Venezuelan refugees in recent years, the Plaza has become populated with Venezuelan working girls. Not far from the plaza are the main areas where Medellin prostitutes offer their services.

These are daytime activities. After 8 pm, the Plaza empties out and the police go home. After 9 pm there's nothing open except for the strip clubs and bars across the street.

There are night club areas in El Centro similar to Parque Lleras, on a smaller scale. The Tranvia (part of the Metro system, accessible at San Antonio station) will take you to one of them. However, you will find no gringos there. I suspect you may find some working girls. There are nightclub areas all over the city and you're likely to find working girls in any. They like to party. The difference is, when they go to Parque Lleras, they go to work. When they go to La 70 or any other zone, they go to party. I'd tone down my approach and let them come to me. On the plus side, prices will be less and you'll be the only gringo there.

[B]On Facebook [/B]

Create a new email account. Do not use it for anyone associated with friends and family. Use that email to set up a Facebook account. Don't put your phone number into Facebook. Don't let Facebook import your contacts. Don't use pictures of yourself which you have shared with friends and family. Don't put in your home city, place of employment, high school, etc. Use other information.

Once you have set up Facebook, add in some interests. Search for night clubs you've visited in Parque Lleras. Search for restaurants you like. Add a few photos. Travel photos are good. You want Facebook to think you're a normal guy doing normal things.

Now add some "friends. " From the search bar type "happy ending Medellin. " It's an account which was a massage parlor. The friend list can be viewed by anyone. The women on the friend list are almost all prostitutes. Many of the men are gringos who go to Medellin for prostitutes. It's like a LinkedIn for getting laid.

Start requesting to add women as friends. Don't try to add them all at once. Start slow. Here's the method I used:

1. View the girls profile. Look at her "About Info. " Look for a birthday. This is just to get an idea of her age.

2. Look at her pictures. Sexy pictures? Pool pics? Pics in elevators? Look at a few sexy pics. Who commented? Who liked? These are possibly other people you want to friend.

3. Can you see her friend list? Her friends are another source of possible friends. I'll often go 4 levels deep (friend of a friend of a friend of the girl) looking for girls to add.

4. Like what you see? Click add friend. Now back up, pick another girl and repeat. Take your time. Every time you have a few minutes, try to add a few girls. Don't try to add 50 at a time. Paying attention to the whole profile slows you down.

5. Wait for responses. Women will start accepting your friend request. Some will message you.

After that, keep your Facebook active. Add an occasional picture. Share something you see on a girl's Facebook.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2423913]I totally agree. They are all individuals, mostly cool I've found. I travel international quite frequently, probably like a lot of us here. There are some, however, that may or can turn something you say into something else, etc.[/QUOTE]Responding to the post that you responded to: I for one have no need to lie to immigration. I was coming back from Tijuana and the officer asked me what I was doing there. I said fucking them hoes. He said okay have a good day.

Had I said tourism and he looked into the computer and saw that I had been there 100 times, I would look quite the fool. He would then ask well what are you seeing there that you have had to see 100 times? Do you have any souvenirs or pictures from your trip? Allow me to peruse your electronics. Not telling them the truth is what gets you in trouble; not stating you did something that is not illegal.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2423926]Responding to the post that you reaponded to: I for one have no need to lie to immigration. I was coming back from Tijuana and the officer asked me what I was doing there. I said fucking them hoes. He said okay have a good day. Had I said tourism and he looked into the computer and saw that I had been there 100 times, I would look quite the fool. He would then ask well what are you seeing there that you have had to see 100 times? Do you have any souvenirs or pictures from your trip? Allow me to peruse your electronics. Not telling them the truth is what gets you in trouble; not stating you did something that is not illegal.[/QUOTE]Well that's great, and I'm glad that works for you.

I would never ever, say what you said.

Not my technique, and I just don't say, "fucking them hoes".

Not my way.

If I was in your shoes with many trips like that, I may say, “checking out the bars, having fun”, however, I'm glad that line works for you.

I never said to not tell the truth, I said friendly and simple, and I personally dont use sly remarks like you, that could get some officer riled up someday.
Have at it though if it makes you feel good.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2423909]I've had Global Entry since 2013 and so had to renew it in 2018. I discussed my hobby with the officer during the interview in Maimi. He asked me what county was best and I told him I like the Paisas in Colombia. He said he has heard the Paisas are beautiful and would love to make a trip to Medellin. Our hobby is definitely not an issue with USA Immigration.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a "cool" immigration officer who interviewed you. So I suppose based on your opinion that mongering is not an issue with USA immigration and if the officer who interviewed you had been a female, you would of been just as candid? Mongering and sex tourism may not be illegal, but it can raise issues. During your interview you could of have ended up with a "holy roller" officer and things may have went differently.

In addition to Global Entry, I have SENTRI and during my last interview process they went thru my tax returns, and asked me all kinds of personal questions. I was shocked by some of the questions they asked, like about my family, etc. However none of the questions were so tough that I couldn't give straight forward and logical answers short of mentioning any "hobbies".

With you having Global Entry you are aware of the expedited benefits of having it besides TSA Pre-check. I typically fly back from my overseas trips thru LAX and when they see my ticket from the Global Entry kiosk, they just wave me thru, no questions asked. So my point is, I would never do anything to jeopardize having this as I travel a lot, hence as far as any hobbies I have during an interview, "mums" the word. I am sure there are others on this board who will agree with me on this.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2423874]I will never tell the Immigration officer the true purpose of my travels, I'm not that stupid. I have learnt from my previous interactions with immigration officers. Always answer the questions of the officer never volunteer information and speak in your native language. Question: What was the purpose of your trip? Answer: Tourism. To any monger who follows the advice given by posters on this site and answers "having sex with prostitutes', you get what you deserve. Immigration officers are human and action from them varies from one to the other and sometimes on a whim. They have great power over you and at the time you have no recourse. The least that can happen to you is much inconvenience and embarrassment. The worst, your guess is as good as mine.[/QUOTE]Redefine the purpose of your visit and you can be completely open and honest without telling anyone the purpose of your visit.

It's all about perception. Obviously, you enjoy your visits, but you see (or so it appears) your visits as something that might get you into trouble. So change your perception. Instead of seeing your visit as a trip to pay girls for sex, it's a vacation. Having sex is just one of the things you do on vacation. You do other things: eat local food, sightsee (looking for girls to pay for sex), have some adventure (paying girls for sex), embrace the local culture (naked, with the girls you pay for sex), try to improve your Spanish (with girls you pay for sex). You can have sex anywhere. Paying for the sex is just a minor detail, rather than the focus.

Now you have nothing to hide.

"What was the purpose of your trip?" "Vacation. " "You take a lot of trips to Colombia. " "I love it there. " "Why do you love it?" "What's not to love? The climate is almost perfect. Everything is cheap. A hotel room that costs $100 here costs $30 there and the free breakfast is better. The people are super friendly. It's just so easy to relax there. Plus I eat better for almost nothing. Lunch with soup, salad, 2 kinds of veggies, choice of beef, chicken, pork or fish and fresh fruit juice costs $3 including the tip. It's almost cheaper than staying home. " "What about the women?" "They're beautiful."

At that point all they can do is either come out and ask if you have sex with Colombian women, or change the subject. You've been honest, you haven't tried to hide anything and you've answered every question. Are they likely to ask an uncomfortable question? If they do, give an honest answer that makes them more uncomfortable. Remember, nothing about what you did with women in Colombia pertains to their job.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2423918]I agree w Mr Ent.

If you like P Lleras and that scene, and those girls there, you most likely won't like Botero.

Go out to Botero and take a look though, there are all shapes and sizes out there.
More of an afternoon to dusk type endeavor and definitely dont expect a P Lleras atmosphere at all.
Keep an eye on your stuff, your pockets, dont flash your phone, wallet, etc.
Doesnt matter how big you are, they just hit quick and run.
Theyre (the lurking thieves) arent there to fight you, just looking for a quick grab and run.

I personally like Botero, but others are definitely better suited by the insulated P Lleras / el Poblado scene.

I cant stand when those Lleras chicas approach and say Hola, fuky fuky, sucky, sucky.
Im not into the chicas whove been w lots of gringos.
I have nothing against gringos, Im one as well, Lol.

The girls normally get spoiled and ruined though.
Not my thing.

I like and Im good at the hunt for unspoiled talent.

Also, I have seen Veracruz and Mayorista girls walking Lleras.

Quite a few actually.

They've found where to find the quick peso from the gringo.

Definitely get on FB though.[/QUOTE]I ll check it out during the day I guess and see what's up for myself.

When creating a fake FB profile, I just use a fake name but use real pictures correct? Then start messaging girls from Medellin slowly as not to get my profile deleted? And theres no chance someone from my local area will see my profile or find out?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2423926]Responding to the post that you responded to: I for one have no need to lie to immigration. I was coming back from Tijuana and the officer asked me what I was doing there. I said fucking them hoes. He said okay have a good day.

Had I said tourism and he looked into the computer and saw that I had been there 100 times, I would look quite the fool. He would then ask well what are you seeing there that you have had to see 100 times? Do you have any souvenirs or pictures from your trip? Allow me to peruse your electronics. Not telling them the truth is what gets you in trouble; not stating you did something that is not illegal.[/QUOTE]You never cease to amaze me Mr. E, no candy coating anything. I of course would not do what you do, however Tijuana with Coauhilla and its red light district is very well known, and the officers know exactly what guys are doing down there, because I suspect a lot of them go there themselves. So I guess the question is it almost sounds as though your boasting about what your doing there when they already know, so why bother? I've crossed thru that border hundreds of times after spending a long weekend there and when I am asked the question what was I doing there, my answer is, I was hanging out, I go to Caliente, eating tacos, etc. All of it a truthful answer, and they can see on their screens how often I have been there, and they have never pulled me into secondary and gone thru my stuff.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2423938]I ll check it out during the day I guess and see what's up for myself.

When creating a fake FB profile, I just use a fake name but use real pictures correct? Then start messaging girls from Medellin slowly as not to get my profile deleted? And theres no chance someone from my local area will see my profile or find out?[/QUOTE]You don't need anything elaborate.

Just a name and whatever photo you want, fake or not.

Put in the Settings that no one can see your friends on FB but you.

Just an avenue to make initial contact, then go to WhatsApp.

Very simple.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2423874]I will never tell the Immigration officer the true purpose of my travels, I'm not that stupid. I have learnt from my previous interactions with immigration officers. Always answer the questions of the officer never volunteer information and speak in your native language. Question: What was the purpose of your trip? Answer: Tourism. [/QUOTE]I agree. The less you volunteer the better. I also have the added benefit of being retired so I sometimes add I'm snow birding (if the season is appropriate). With the highlight on Human Trafficking you never know when you might get an over zealous idiot. Doesn't matter if 99 times you are waved through or even high-fived. Yes it is not illegal going into the US, but go ahead and try to prove that 19 year old you have a naked photo of on your phone is not under 18. It is good to have a non-sex tourism story available if pressed. If I'm asked if I saw a prostitute I won't lie, but why volunteer? Federal agents can lie to you but if you lie to them you have committed a felony. I have a few pictures of myself and one of my older favoritas in an easily accessible folder on my phone so if pushed I'll say I have a girlfriend there, I was once asked to show those going into Colombia. Was a snippy female immigration officer but once she saw the photos she waved me through. All my sexy pics are encrypted and backed up to the Web. I delete my fakebook account and Whatsapp from my phone before I go through customs. Takes two seconds to add back on. Two years ago I was detained questioned and searched for 3 hours entering New Zealand. They gave me a hard time about the emergency antibiotics I travel with and confiscated my benedryl and sudafed. They also gave me a hard time about one commercial porno movie that I had long forgotten was on my tablet. Fortunately it was commercial with the mandatory age notification at the beginning indicating all the actresses are over 18 and where the record holder an be contacted. I was given the choice of letting them examine my electronics (fortunately sanitized) or being denied entry. I had a very expensive 2 week escorted hiking tour paid for so I was not going to get back on a plane and leave. They were very suspicious because before arrive in NZ I had visited PI, Cambodia, Thailand and Indonesia. They asked me if I had sex with under aged girls and I honestly answered no. After sweating me for three hours (seemed longer) and having 3 different people interview me they allowed me enter. I left the airport at 11:30 PM, no taxis, no buses, no uber and had to walk 2 miles with my luggage to my airbnb. I am very sure if I volunteered my leisure activities in those other countries I would have at best been denied entry.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2423722]Assume most Airbnb's don't want sex tourists. Nothing new. Just they are realizing they have to state it explicitly. Most Airbnb's are in peoples homes or in residential areas. Why would this be surprising.

Hotels. Sure, probably more than in the past. There is a movement to discourage or stop sex tourism. Little posters in some hotels, etc. Again. Not a big surprise due to so many stupid mongers. Sorry, I'm one of them.

So. Basically you have to ask. Airbnb, hotel, whatever. What is your guest policy.[/QUOTE]I would try and avoid places that openly state "No sex tourism" in their policy guidelines. But I have stayed with prepagos even when renting a room in a large penthouse that stated "no sex tourism" . I just added the prepago on to the reservation when I booked the room and the chick just stayed with me while I was there. Obviously guys that want a lot of short time prepagos or don't know many prepagos well enough to book them in your apartment can't do this. But I rented a three bedroom apartment on Airbnb that allowed six registered guests and I added five prepagos that I wanted to see to the reservation. The apartment said 'no sex tourism" but nobody questions registered guests.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2423936]Redefine the purpose of your visit and you can be completely open and honest without telling anyone the purpose of your visit.
It's all about perception.[/QUOTE]Yep, it's all in the answers you give to the immigration officers questions, of which they have no way of verifying or checking the answers you give them when it comes to whether your seeing hookers. I am amazed at how "naive" or perhaps "foolish" some of are other posters have been on this subject. But this is just my opinion.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2423952]I agree. The less you volunteer the better. I also have the added benefit of being retired so I sometimes add I'm snow birding (if the season is appropriate). With the highlight on Human Trafficking you never know when you might get an over zealous idiot. Doesn't matter if 99 times you are waved through or even high-fived. Yes it is not illegal going into the US, but go ahead and try to prove that 19 year old you have a naked photo of on your phone is not under 18. It is good to have a non-sex tourism story available if pressed. If I'm asked if I saw a prostitute I won't lie, but why volunteer? Federal agents can lie to you but if you lie to them you have committed a felony. I have a few pictures of myself and one of my older favoritas in an easily accessible folder on my phone so if pushed I'll say I have a girlfriend there, I was once asked to show those going into Colombia. Was a snippy female immigration officer but once she saw the photos she waved me through. All my sexy pics are encrypted and backed up to the Web. I delete my fakebook account and Whatsapp from my phone before I go through customs. Takes two seconds to add back on. Two years ago I was detained questioned and searched for 3 hours entering New Zealand..[/QUOTE]That's a different situation, but worth knowing about.

My attitude when coming back to the US is "it's my country." I can trace my roots back all the way to the Mayflower. Well, I can't. Genealogy bores me. I leave that crap to my cousin. It's more interesting listening to him talk about family history than listening to him talk about religion.

The point is, I belong here. I pay taxes, vote and open doors for little old ladies. I've broken no rules, no laws. The person I'm standing in front of is just doing their job. They aren't there to give me problems. They're like the greeter at Walmart. I give a cheerful greeting. I show interest. If they ask how I'm doing, I answer and ask how they are doing. When I walk away, I want them to be a little bit happier than when I arrived.

Think about it. Most of you have made dozens, if not hundreds of international trips. You've got a thousand stories to tell, on many different subjects. You're a walking encyclopedia and travel guide and you're standing in front of someone who has probably never left the US. If they even go on vacation, instead of sitting at home, they probably go to some place less than 2 hours from home and do the same crap with the same people, year after year. Have some confidence, some enthusiasm. Leave them thinking "that sounds like a great place. I want to go there."

You can control the situation. In your case, you had paid for an excursion in New Zealand. Bring it up. Be excited about it. Talk about similar excursions in the other countries you've visited. It doesn't matter if you've taken the excursions. Surely you know something about them. Be something more than a collection of passport stamps to them.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2423938]I ll check it out during the day I guess and see what's up for myself.

When creating a fake FB profile, I just use a fake name but use real pictures correct? [/QUOTE]Do not use any photos that you have published online before. I have no idea what the capabilities of FB's confirmation abilities are but I would not underestimate them. You can not say there is "no chance" anyone from your local area will see it but you can certainly make the odds astronomical.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2423938]When creating a fake FB profile, I just use a fake name but use real pictures correct? And theres no chance someone from my local area will see my profile or find out?[/QUOTE]Can 'real' pictures on FB be found on traced? Try here and see. [URL]https://tineye.com/[/URL].

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2423602]After doing all that and spending the 20 k, she has to figure out how to get back to Bello with no money? And what do I get out of it? The satisfaction of spitting on a poor person?

I'm on vacation. I'm drinking cheap beer, eating cheap food and fucking young, beautiful women for less than I spend on a good steak dinner. Why create stress with artificial deadlines? Why punish myself, to flex my muscles at someone? Sure. I taught her a lesson. Now I get to go pick out someone else, wait 2 hours and maybe turn her away too. I could end up wasting 6 hours before having to resort to a trip to a strip club to get what I had knocking at my door..[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more. I use to get annoyed when they show up an hour late, and they know I'm not happy when it happens. But as long as they show up, I always pay for the taxi, for exactly the reason you have described. Sometimes the fucking taxi driver, probably their boyfriend, pimp or brother, asks for 50 k from Bello to Poblado, that's where I get pissed off. She is an hour late and her driver has the audacity to ask for more than double the fair. I use to reasonably explain to them that I'M not new, and I know how things work in Medellin; now I just tell them to fuck off and throw them a 20. For my regulars, they all know I hate when they show up late, and they almost always show up on time now, within 15 minutes of the promised time, and no one has the balls to over charge me on taxi now.

I agree. It's more about how you answer than what you answer. Unless of course you confess to illegal acts. The ICE guys look for signs of nervousness, deception, or irrational responses (E. G. A guy carrying only a small backpack and stating that he was away for six weeks). A common question is "you are a frequent visitor to country X, do you have friends or family there?" Any answer will do. Friends, family, work commitments, but if a guy goes deer in the headlights or is stumped, that's going to be a problem.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2423987]Yep, it's all in the answers you give to the immigration officers questions, of which they have no way of verifying or checking the answers you give them when it comes to whether your seeing hookers. I am amazed at how "naive" or perhaps "foolish" some of are other posters have been on this subject. But this is just my opinion.[/QUOTE]

I started out today trying to get my cell phone a local SIM card and some data. That turned out to be kind of difficult with no Spanish knowledge. I got the card, but no internet. The guy pointed me up the street and indicated that I need to pay 3 mil. I needed to charge the phone. I wandered up the street but didn't see a cell phone store and asked another vender. After some sign language and pointing at my non-working phone they pointed me to a little stand that looked like they were providing financial services of some kind. First it was a no-go because I didn't remember which service provider my SIM card was for and then I didn't know my new phone number. So I was going back and forth down the street and working with the guy who sold me the SIM card to get the answers. After all that it still didn't work until a sequence of symbols and numbers was typed into the phone to activate an amount on the phone.

Now that I got. Working phone I used it to track down a Scotiabank Colapatria ATM to withdraw money. I have a Capital One checking account that doesn't charge international fees etc. And the Scotiabank doesn't charge fees either. Exchange rate: 3385.113.

So off I go looking for trouble and found it. Skinny Vinnie who quoted me 50 k and of course I didn't negotiate down to 30 k like I should have. And when we get to the room she asks for payment up front. Now I should have negotiated all this beforehand but didn't. So I get what is coming to me in spades. I tried the "if you do a great job you get a great tip, not good then no tip. " So she proceeds to ask for another 50 k. Wait, that's not the way this is supposed to go! Anyway that's two for two in Botero Plaza up selling me without Mersey.

After lunch and a rest I walked over to Yakusa. The ladies at reception were nice and asked me to sit down and wait for the introductions. Kind of to my surprise the lady behind the desk got up and introduced herself first. She was seriously pretty and she was flirting with me as the second lady came in to introduce herself. Then I was asked to choose. Yeah only two. Well I picked the receptionist of course. And let me tell you I made the right choice. We started out dancing together. She slowly stripped off her clothes as we continued to dance together. Well the rest of the time was spent not totally GFE but with great enthusiasm. We pretty much finished when I gave her the big O. After that I was too tired to do more although she was willing.

Lesson learned: unless you have great negotiating skills (which I don't) I now think it's better for me to go to the casas. For some reason I have worse luck in Medellin than in Tijuana with SWs.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2423987]Yep, it's all in the answers you give to the immigration officers questions, of which they have no way of verifying or checking the answers you give them when it comes to whether your seeing hookers. I am amazed at how "naive" or perhaps "foolish" some of are other posters have been on this subject. But this is just my opinion.[/QUOTE]I think it's less "all in the answers" and more in judging how you deliver your answers. They are trained to look for deception. I'd say it's foolish to not be honest if you have nothing to hide.

Of course I start with "vacation" but when they ask me why I travel to Colombia so often I tell them I like the ladies in Medellin. At this point the questions end. I've never had an immigration officer ask me if I'm paying money to enjoy these ladies. They have no interest in that and they already know the answer anyhow. Same in my Global Entry interview. You are correct I would have been less forthright with a female officer as I am with my friends' wives. But out of respect. And for no other reason. But if hard questions are asked they will get accurate answers. No deception.

You sound like you feel you're doing something wrong. I don't feel that way. And I know US Immigration has no issue with it. Everyone should be aware that while it's ok to give vague responses to their questions be careful not to outright lie to an immigration officer. That can get you into some trouble.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2423977]I would try and avoid places that openly state "No sex tourism" in their policy guidelines. But I have stayed with prepagos even when renting a room in a large penthouse that stated "no sex tourism" . I just added the prepago on to the reservation when I booked the room and the chick just stayed with me while I was there. Obviously guys that want a lot of short time prepagos or don't know many prepagos well enough to book them in your apartment can't do this. But I rented a three bedroom apartment on Airbnb that allowed six registered guests and I added five prepagos that I wanted to see to the reservation. The apartment said 'no sex tourism" but nobody questions registered guests.[/QUOTE]I'm at Energy Living this week because I changed travel plans at the last minute and my usual apartment building is sold out. After five years in Medellin first time I've ever stayed here. It's gringo and puta central here LOL. How funny that the sign in the elevator states " sex tourism is explicitly prohibited". This place was built for sex tourists. So worry less about the building's sex tourism policy and more about the airbnb host's "guest policy". The building I usually stay at some hosts allow guests and others do not. Same as Energy Living there is a "no prostitution" policy. Wink wink. Just make sure your airbnb host allows you to have guests visit. In other buildings some hosts do not allow guests. I'm guessing all Energy Living hosts allow guests. It's one big fukin' ***** house. Also the only place I've ever stayed where all the front desk employees speak english.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2424050]I'm at Energy Living this week.[/QUOTE]You're living your best life. That is a nice building.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2424055]You're living your best life. That is a nice building.[/QUOTE]If you're here for a party week I agree. It's the place to stay. But I live in Medellin in the winters. This place is full of loud gringos. It's not for me. I prefer being in a quiet building.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2423987]Yep, it's all in the answers you give to the immigration officers questions, of which they have no way of verifying or checking the answers you give them when it comes to whether your seeing hookers. I am amazed at how "naive" or perhaps "foolish" some of are other posters have been on this subject. But this is just my opinion.[/QUOTE]Great thoughts! Lots of truthful things to tell them and no reason to lie but why tell them everything? Seems like bragging about buying pussy?

I grew up in an area where silence was golden. Keeps everyone out of trouble.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2424064]But I live in Medellin in the winters. [/QUOTE]Why only for there winter?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2424074]Why only for there winter?[/QUOTE]Because that's when the weather is bad in northern Michigan where I live. I'm a Yooper.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2423929]Well that's great, and I'm glad that works for you.

I would never ever, say what you said.

Not my technique, and I just don't say, "fucking them hoes".

Not my way.

If I was in your shoes with many trips like that, I may say, checking out the bars, having fun, however, I'm glad that line works for you.

I never said to not tell the truth, I said friendly and simple, and I personally dont use sly remarks like you, that could get some officer riled up someday.
Have at it though if it makes you feel good.[/QUOTE]Agree; isn't it possible that the immigration officer could be some religious freak who thinks fornication is a grievous sin? It is true that the monger is entering his country but that officer has great power over him at the time and could cause him much grief and could even flag him for future problems. Mongers should be well aware to take some posts with a pinch of salt.
In any event, the bottom line - have some couth.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2424156]Agree; isn't it possible that the immigration officer could be some religious freak who thinks fornication is a grievous sin? It is true that the monger is entering his country but that officer has great power over him at the time and could cause him much grief and could even flag him for future problems. Mongers should be well aware to take some posts with a pinch of salt.[/QUOTE]Mongering is not an accepted "hobby" in the USA, with that being said, why would someone even "own" up to it, especially to US Immigration, which I don't understand. Divulging that you are a monger could open up a Pandora's box, but for some members on this board they don't believe it's an issue.

[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2424035]I Lesson learned: unless you have great negotiating skills (which I don't) I now think it's better for me to go to the casas. For some reason I have worse luck in Medellin than in Tijuana with SWs.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't give up on the SW's in Medellin just yet. The reason you think your having worse luck in Medellin with the SW's than in Tijuana is because most of the services in Tijuana are kind of set on a menu with typically includes a base price which includes two positions and their pants or skirt off, and then you have the add ONS, etc. So basically your getting a menu, where as here, it doesn't work that way, and anything goes.

You don't really need any negotiating skills, yet you do need some basic Spanish speaking skills. You can ask the SW's what they want, and after you hear the number, you just tell them what you are willing to pay and what you expect for their services and that they can "take it or leave it". It's that simple, and this is exactly how the Colombians go about it.

And always tell them that you pay afterwards, and make that clear before you go upstairs with them versus after your in the room. I personally don't like the Vennies that much, they seem to have an attitude like they are better than the Colombians and smarter which is a perfect example of what happened to you, however there are some nice ones around.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2424173]Mongering is not an accepted "hobby" in the USA, with that being said, why would someone even "own" up to it, especially to US Immigration, which I don't understand. Divulging that you are a monger could open up a Pandora's box, but for some members on this board they don't believe it's an issue.[/QUOTE]Think about the reaction of the secondary or the boss when all mongers are recorded and sent to secondary. I know they have to be kept busy, but probably not like this. This has nothing to do with border security.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2424000] The person I'm standing in front of is just doing their job. They aren't there to give me problems. They're like the greeter at Walmart. I give a cheerful greeting. I show interest. If they ask how I'm doing, I answer and ask how they are doing. When I walk away, I want them to be a little bit happier than when I arrived.[/QUOTE]Let me state I respect border agents who are doing an important job trying to keep dangerous people out of our country. And as Frank Burns said, its nice to be nice to the nice. But they are not Walmart greeters, they are looking for someone to bust. The more people they catch, the better for their career. Get an asshole or even worse an asshole having a bad day, they can greatly inconvenience you or worse. Be polite, be direct and move on.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2424050]How funny that the sign in the elevator states " sex tourism is explicitly prohibited". This place was built for sex tourists.[/QUOTE]Never been to Energy but similar buildings. In those buildings, the posters in elevator doesn't say "Sex tourism is explicitly prohibited" but "child prostitution is prohibited and should be reported".

Hello,

I have been doing more research on Medellin, and a few girls on the Photoprepagos site caught my attention. A lot of these girls seem to have their own apartments around the city, and are willing to do incall. This feels more convenient for me, since a) I don't have to rent a love motel, and b) I can go to the girl at my own time without having to sit around waiting.

A few posts from a while back mentioned that these incalls are safe, but is it advised to just rent a love motel? Is there a risk of running into anything at the incall location? LOL this is going to be my first time visiting, so just wanted to see what the more experienced mongers think about this.

If the USA Border Folks ask you about the "women in Colombia" simply tell them you are gay then ask politely if you may proceed.

Any tips, advise. I will be in a great location in laureles near la70. Can I find out best way to exchange money. Best taxi app to use at the airport around the town. I exchanged $200 through us bank and lost $30 doing so 580000 pesos. My thought is there must be a better way. Can I get names or address of all the casas in laureles. Also it seems like more foreigners like the hunt in el centro than parque lleras. Can I get feedback.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2424348]If the USA Border Folks ask you about the "women in Colombia" simply tell them you are gay then ask politely if you may proceed.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. Too funny.

[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2424035]So off I go looking for trouble and found it. Skinny Vinnie who quoted me 50 k and of course I didn't negotiate down to 30 k like I should have. And when we get to the room she asks for payment up front. Now I should have negotiated all this beforehand but didn't. So I get what is coming to me in spades. I tried the "if you do a great job you get a great tip, not good then no tip. " So she proceeds to ask for another 50 k. Wait, that's not the way this is supposed to go! Anyway that's two for two in Botero Plaza up selling me without Mersey.[/QUOTE]I started the day taking a trip on the Metro Cable line. I got some good pictures of the city from the height and also some pictures of the Favelas. On the way back I picked up some beer, nuts and cheese at the Exito store on CL. 48 #46-115, Medellin. On the way back I passed the Botero Plaza and didn't see anyone from the day before.

I was thinking of eating something but also wanted to see if the girl from Yakusa was working this Sunday. So instead I popped a Viagra and took a shower. I made sure to shave closely and ensure that every part of me was clean and ready for our date. But to my disappointment; upon reaching the said establishment I was told that there was only one girl there today and she wasn't the one I was looking for. And as I looked a the guy that was waiting his turn; I just knew the right answer was to say "thank you very much. I will come back on Monday."

Immediately after exiting Yakusa I got a text from Skinny Vinnie. I almost decided to put her off, but I had this crazy idea in my head that I could turn a money first clock watcher into a GFE. I looked at that idea and turned it around in my head. On the one point I was very nice to her the day before. I could play up that store of good will and maybe turn it into a nice encounter. So she is texting me devils and lovey stuff and says she is hungry for me. "OK", I said. "Where do we meet?

The biggest cons are possible on people who con. My con? I was thinking about how I could get something that doesn't belong to me. Kind of like the FBers who are trolling FaceBook looking for naive young girls who they hope are going to give them more than they have a right to. They want GFE without paying for the commitment of a family or even the commitment of a boyfriend. That was my con. My con was the gasoline that made her con burn. But when you are feeling the flames it is like sacrificing a pawn in Chess. The pawn has a purpose. It is an acceptable price.

So we agreed to meet at the place where we met the day before. The street near the museum that some have named little Caracas. She asked that we don't go to the short time hotel we went to last time, but go to her hotel room. I thought "that sounds kind of girlfriend." And said "yes that sounds good". We walk quickly up the street; she almost runs.

She asks to buy some beer for the room. The room price was 20 k pesos. I gave her money and something additional to buy some beer. We walked up the stairs to her room. Of course I thought that could be the price to add me for the night. The room was as expected. It was a mess.

As I sat on the bed I noticed that there were crumbs of marijuana on the bed. Empty beer bottles on the dresser. Clothing popped out of drawers and cubbyholes. And I identified a pipe.

Part One of a multiparty post.

To notes for you: (1) ATMs and (2) RTFF.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2424354]Any tips, advise. I will be in a great location in laureles near la70. Can I find out best way to exchange money. Best taxi app to use at the airport around the town. I exchanged $200 through us bank and lost $30 doing so 580000 pesos. My thought is there must be a better way. Can I get names or address of all the casas in laureles. Also it seems like more foreigners like the hunt in el centro than parque lleras. Can I get feedback.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2424354]Any tips, advise. I will be in a great location in laureles near la70. Can I find out best way to exchange money. Best taxi app to use at the airport around the town. I exchanged $200 through us bank and lost $30 doing so 580000 pesos. My thought is there must be a better way. Can I get names or address of all the casas in laureles. Also it seems like more foreigners like the hunt in el centro than parque lleras. Can I get feedback.[/QUOTE]If you are in the situation in which you must exchange money rather than use ATM's, go to the Unicentro shopping center. A place in there named Panacambios had the best rate when I checked last month. The [URL]xe.com[/URL] rate was 3395/$1 and they were giving 3250/$1. DiDi and Beat are the most popular ride-share apps. I think DiDi may have more cars. Cabify is the yellow taxi app. I use the bus from the airport, so I don't know if any of those apps work at the airport. I use Facebook as my source for chicas, thus I don't know much about casas, el centro, or Parque Lleras.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2424354]Any tips, advise. I will be in a great location in laureles near la70. Can I find out best way to exchange money. Best taxi app to use at the airport around the town. I exchanged $200 through us bank and lost $30 doing so 580000 pesos. My thought is there must be a better way. Can I get names or address of all the casas in laureles. Also it seems like more foreigners like the hunt in el centro than parque lleras. Can I get feedback.[/QUOTE]Nothing more to add.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2424348]If the USA Border Folks ask you about the "women in Colombia" simply tell them you are gay then ask politely if you may proceed.[/QUOTE]Border folk will respond "How are the men?".

You can also WU your self the $. I forget what the sweet spot for fees vs $ is.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2424354]Any tips, advise. I will be in a great location in laureles near la70. Can I find out best way to exchange money. Best taxi app to use at the airport around the town. I exchanged $200 through us bank and lost $30 doing so 580000 pesos. My thought is there must be a better way. Can I get names or address of all the casas in laureles. Also it seems like more foreigners like the hunt in el centro than parque lleras. Can I get feedback.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2424297]I wouldn't give up on the SW's in Medellin just yet. The reason you think your having worse luck in Medellin with the SW's than in Tijuana is because most of the services in Tijuana are kind of set on a menu with typically includes a base price which includes two positions and their pants or skirt off, and then you have the add ONS, etc. So basically your getting a menu, where as here, it doesn't work that way, and anything goes.

You don't really need any negotiating skills, yet you do need some basic Spanish speaking skills. You can ask the SW's what they want, and after you hear the number, you just tell them what you are willing to pay and what you expect for their services and that they can "take it or leave it". It's that simple, and this is exactly how the Colombians go about it.

And always tell them that you pay afterwards, and make that clear before you go upstairs with them versus after your in the room. I personally don't like the Vennies that much, they seem to have an attitude like they are better than the Colombians and smarter which is a perfect example of what happened to you, however there are some nice ones around.[/QUOTE]That's great advice. Thank you so much.

I wrote a much longer continuation of my previous post regarding "scam alert", but I'm not sure it got posted or not so I will just conclude it shortly here.

I paid in advance for a TLN and promised services. However right after renting a room for the night I got a threesome pushed on me from a cousin that needed our help. So while I already paid for GFE for the night, we couldn't do that unless I paid for her cousin (in advance) too. So I told both of them to just go away.

So this is perfect advice from Surfer. Pay after only.

[QUOTE=LoganDrills;2424337]Hello,

I have been doing more research on Medellin, and a few girls on the Photoprepagos site caught my attention. A lot of these girls seem to have their own apartments around the city, and are willing to do incall. This feels more convenient for me, since a) I don't have to rent a love motel, and b) I can go to the girl at my own time without having to sit around waiting.

A few posts from a while back mentioned that these incalls are safe, but is it advised to just rent a love motel? Is there a risk of running into anything at the incall location? LOL this is going to be my first time visiting, so just wanted to see what the more experienced mongers think about this.[/QUOTE]They are not 100 % safe. There have been times when the girl drugs the victim or a male shows up after you are in place and then he robs you.

For a new man to MDE your best bet to be on the safe side is to go to a casa. I have never heard of any real problems with safety in a casa.

If you are thinking about not have to wait on a Chica then a casa is also a no waiting game.

For the 1001 time. Use the ATM in MDE. They have them right at the airport and then after that they are all over MDE.

No other method to obtain pesos comes close.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2424485]Border folk will respond "How are the men?".[/QUOTE]ROFL! Turgid, thank you! You made my day.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2424354]Any tips, advise. I will be in a great location in laureles near la70. Can I find out best way to exchange money. Best taxi app to use at the airport around the town. I exchanged $200 through us bank and lost $30 doing so 580000 pesos. My thought is there must be a better way. Can I get names or address of all the casas in laureles. Also it seems like more foreigners like the hunt in el centro than parque lleras. Can I get feedback.[/QUOTE]Normally just using your ATM card is the best way to get cash. Sounds like they charged you 15% yo get currency up front. I have seen steep prices like this before. Your bank gets the best exchange rate when you use the ATM in a foreign country, you still pay international exchange fee of a anywhere from $1 -$3 depending on the percentage your bank is charging you and the amount. Colpatria Scotia ATMs (there are also Colpatria and Scotia but it must say Colpatria -Scotia) have been reported as not having ATM fees but these can be harder to find.

To learn more about casas around Medellin you need to study this thread that I am supplying the link to. There is a map and a list. The list is a downloadable PDF file and the map is a custom made Google Map with the link in post #52 in the Medellin Map and List thread. I noticed that the closest Casas to Laureles seem to be along Avenida 33. Thank World Travel 69 for putting in the research and time on these.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4002-Medellin-Map-and-List[/URL]

The information on the map is always changing so I would suggest looking at specific places and then researching by plugging the name into the search feature of the Medellin Reports thread, you find this toward the top of the page to the right of in the middle gray bar running across the top the thread. Click where is says "Search Thread" then a search box opens.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2424551]For the 1001 time. Use the ATM in MDE. They have them right at the airport and then after that they are all over MDE.

No other method to obtain pesos comes close.[/QUOTE]If they make it that complicated to get money, you can imagine how complicated it will be to get a woman.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2424316]Let me state I respect border agents who are doing an important job trying to keep dangerous people out of our country. And as Frank Burns said, its nice to be nice to the nice. But they are not Walmart greeters, they are looking for someone to bust. The more people they catch, the better for their career. Get an asshole or even worse an asshole having a bad day, they can greatly inconvenience you or worse. Be polite, be direct and move on.[/QUOTE]People will rise to meet your expectations. If you expect them to be nice, they're usually nice. If you expect an asshole, you get an asshole.

I did some figuring a few days ago. Over the past 7 years I've crossed into and out of Canada, in a commercial truck nearly 500 times. That's almost 500 interactions with Canada CBP and almost 500 with US CBP. I've probably been sent to secondary inspection about 40 times. 4 times were in Canada, 3 for paperwork not being registered and 1 for a load inspection.

Most of the trips to secondary on the US side were for X-ray. Between midnight and 2 am they do certification and training for the X-ray equipment. If you cross the border at that time, in a truck, you've got about a 75% chance of getting sent to x-ray. Once I realized that, I changed my schedule and almost never got sent to secondary.

My negative experiences with CBP - 6. The first 2 were on my first trip. Got a bit of flack from both sides. Problem was, I was nervous. I didn't know the routine. I didn't know to shut my truck off at the booth. One time I'd been switched to a rental truck at the last minute and the license plate didn't match the paperwork. That time probably would have been OK, except the woman was training another agent.

Of the other 3, 2 were with the same asshole and 1 was with a guy having a bad day.

My airport entries are few. Nothing like you guys whose passports have more stamps than the post office. My first time, I screwed up using the kiosk, and the photo was only the bottom half of my face. Straight to secondary. Had to wait 20 minutes, then they emptied my luggage, 2 suitcases plus a guitar in a flight case. I've learned to travel lighter. When the officer started with the questions he was rather harsh. By the time he finished, he and 2 other agents were hanging out and laughing with me.

So out of about 1,000 face-to-face dealings with CBP, including about 40 additional interactions in secondary inspection, I've had 7 negative experiences and 4 were my fault. And the worst that happened was a few people were briefly rude to me.

I probably shouldn't count the Canadian CBP interactions, because Canadians are always nice and polite. If they caught you smuggling in 500 guns, they'd ask you if you like to hunt while handcuffing you.

Most of the CBP I encounter are just bored. They look at the same stuff, ask the same questions, hundreds of times a day. You think they're looking for someone to bust? Not in my experience. They're looking to get out of there and go home.

At the airport they're dealing with grumpy, cramped travelers. At the border they're dealing with tired, grumpy (and often stinky) truck drivers. All the time looking for someone who won't make eye contact or who seems nervous. Why be that guy? When I walk up, or drive up, I've got a bounce in my step and a smile on my face. I don't start spouting out all the details of my trip, but I do give them a bit of humanity.

On slow nights I've sat at the booth talking with an officer for 5 minutes, about sports, the product I haul, bad drivers or the crazy stuff they see. The next time I see that officer, they're all smiles.

I don't recommend blurting out the number of hookers you saw, or talking about how cheap cocaine is in Colombia. But I do recommend treating it just like all the other interactions you have every week. Unless you're one of the guys who is rude to everyone.

Waitress: "How are you today?" "I'm great. How are you?

Cashier: "How are you today?" "I'm great. How are you?

CBP: "How are you today?" "I'm great. How are you?

I expect every CBP officer to be a nice person doing a job they frequently complain about. I treat every CBP officer like they're a nice person doing a job they probably complain about. In response, almost every one turns out to be a nice person who is just doing their job.

I can't imagine how difficult my life would be if I treated each one like some asshole who's looking for the chance to ruin my day because he's having a bad day.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2424348]If the USA Border Folks ask you about the "women in Colombia" simply tell them you are gay then ask politely if you may proceed.[/QUOTE]Right idea, but a better response is "if you think the women are hot, you should see the men."

Just got back from a 3 week stint and had a great time. I stayed in Poblado at the Medellin Plaza hotel.

I will start with the the SW of Centro and the casas. Never saw anything that I absolutely had to have among the street walkers, so I passed. Another day, I figured I'd give the centro casas a try. Again, while the price is attractive, I found the few casa I visited (New Life, sexy Amigas and a couple more) did not have the facilities and performance levels that I was looking for. Even a promise of generous tips did not improve the experience.

I had put a lot of faith on my FaceBook game and that too was a bit of a disappointment. The 6 FB connections I had were a bit of a let down. They were as hardened as the regular bar girls and lacking any motivation to perform.

What really made the difference for me was the superbowl party I attended early on my trip. It seems to have brought out the semi-pro girls whose contacts I collected and later used extensively.

I also used Mileriticos quite extensively and lucked out with some really good providers. One stunner claimed that she was in Medical school which I took with a load of salt until she started throwing medical terminology around.

Also, took a trip to Gutape to climb the rock.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2424354]Any tips, advise. I will be in a great location in laureles near la70. Can I find out best way to exchange money. Best taxi app to use at the airport around the town. I exchanged $200 through us bank and lost $30 doing so 580000 pesos. My thought is there must be a better way. Can I get names or address of all the casas in laureles. Also it seems like more foreigners like the hunt in el centro than parque lleras. Can I get feedback.[/QUOTE]Tip #1: Read the forum, or RTFF as they say. There's a search function. It's very useful. There is more information just waiting for you than you can imagine. There are answers to at least 30 questions which you don't know you need to ask.

Tip #2: Follow up your trips with trip reports. If you went to Pattaya, you should have written a report in the Pattaya thread. Even if you spent 28 days sitting in your hotel room, you should have written something. Writing a report helps everyone. Anyone who gave you advice is curious how your trip turned out. Any other first timers want to know what a first timer experienced. It's one thing to read a report from a guy who is now fucking the granddaughters of the first women he fucked in a city. It's a completely different perspective from a new visitor.

Tip #3: Read the forum. Yes. It's that important. There are plenty of guys here with hundreds of trip reports in dozens of countries. They read the forum and most learn something new every week. Can you imagine how much you'll learn?

Advice: Check the rates before exchanging money. A few banks will offer a great exchange rate, most won't. Depending on your bank, using ATMs gets the best rate. Cost is generally between 1% and 6%. If you insist on exchanging dollars, search Google maps for casa de cambio. Some have websites. Check the rates first. They will be posted at the casa de cambio.

Advice: Read the forum. The airport is 30-45 minutes away from Medellin, depending on if you use the new tunnel. There are several ways to get to Laureles from the airport:

1. Airport bus. Get on the one going to Nutibara. It drops you 3 minutes walk away from Parque Berrio Metro station. Take the metro south one stop to San Antonio, switch trains, get off at the 3rd stop, Estadio. Walk south. Cost, under $4.

2. Airport taxi. These are white taxis. Current price is posted on a big sign just outside the airport doors. I think current rate is 80 k. Find the sign. Know the rate. Ask the driver how much. If he says more, tell him the rate.

3. Colectivo, or shared taxi. Also white taxis, but they wait for 4 passengers. Each pays one quarter of the posted rate.

4. Freelance taxi. The drivers will try to grab you inside the airport. They charge whatever they think they can get. Best to avoid them.

5. Rideshare. Didi and Beat apps have been recommended by others.

6. Facebook Uber. There are several working girls with cars who will do airport pickup. The price is comparable to the taxis with the bonus of having 30 minutes of foreplay and your first session in Medellin 5 minutes after checking in to your room. These women tend to be late 20's to early 30's. Read the forum for more information.

Advice: The majority of casas are in El Centro. There are some in Laureles, but they are more expensive. It's quick, easy and cheap to get to El Centro by the Metro.

Feedback: You should have started with reading the forum. The most powerful weapon in the world is knowledge (actually it's an angry honey badger with the coronavirus, but who knows where to find one). This forum is the monger's equivalent to the Library of Congress. Arm yourself.

There are many different options for sex in Medellin. Every guy has their favorite. Without knowing anything about you (like what we could learn from a trip report) nobody knows what way will work best for you.

There are streetwalkers, casas, massage spas (casas with uncomfortable beds), shared apartments (casas without a business license), strip clubs (casas with music and a stripper pole), prepago agencies, Tinder, Colombian Cupid, Seeking Arrangements, Mileroticos, Photoprepagos and Facebook. Read the forum and figure out which one you prefer.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2424297]I wouldn't give up on the SW's in Medellin just yet. The reason you think your having worse luck in Medellin with the SW's than in Tijuana is because most of the services in Tijuana are kind of set on a menu with typically includes a base price which includes two positions and their pants or skirt off, and then you have the add ONS, etc. So basically your getting a menu, where as here, it doesn't work that way, and anything goes.

You don't really need any negotiating skills, yet you do need some basic Spanish speaking skills. You can ask the SW's what they want, and after you hear the number, you just tell them what you are willing to pay and what you expect for their services and that they can "take it or leave it". It's that simple, and this is exactly how the Colombians go about it.

And always tell them that you pay afterwards, and make that clear before you go upstairs with them versus after your in the room. I personally don't like the Vennies that much, they seem to have an attitude like they are better than the Colombians and smarter which is a perfect example of what happened to you, however there are some nice ones around.[/QUOTE]I have been putting this advice to practice today. I started out creating a translation on Google Translate of my "want list". And then I took a screenshot of it so I can show it to the girl without a data connection. Something like this:

Sexo por una hora.

** # sin ropa.

** # chupar con condón.

** # follar con condon.

** # te llamo el coño.

** # Toco tu cuerpo, tus senos y tu coño.

Doy una propina por un buen servicio. No hay propina para el servicio regular.

# todo el dinero se paga después del final de la hora #.

The first girl was OK with everything but I had written that I would pay $40 for the hour and she didn't like that. I think it is working better to leave the dollar figure off and just hold up fingers if I need to negotiate price. It was difficult to find anyone (yet) who would agree to "sin condon services". I am going to follow up with making two sets of images. One for 30 minutes and one for an hour. Each set removes a condition like sin condom services so I can show three possibilities I would agree to.

The first girl was 50 k for the hour, everything covered. She actually offered less and I had written on my list 50. So a little mistake there and she objected to sin condom services. Fine. No problems doing anything with her that was on the list otherwise, it was just that she was a total starfish. She didn't even ask for the tip and none given. 24 k for the hotel.

Second girl quoted me 3 k (and I already took my pricing off the list so that was good) but when we got in the room she up-sold me on touching her breasts for the hour. I didn't blame because 3 is too little for an hour and offered her 50. She was good and I counted the 20 as her tip. 50 for her and 20 room.

Third girl objected to the hour so I agreed to her request of 50 for 30 minutes. I probably should have tried to negotiate down the price for 30 minutes, but didn't. She was OK, not great, but I gave her a 10 k tip anyway because I liked her. 60 k girl and 10 k room.

This is very much the culture here. Create the contract ahead of time and there are no problems. Leave anything off the contract and it's extra money. One of the girls asked to see the "contract" again in the room so she could get things right.

Thanks again Surfer!

Ok guys lets get off the bank business. And on to the women. We all know how to make and save money. OUR MISSION is the beauties, we arent getting in the USA Not the teller machines.

[QUOTE=ElBacano;2424676]Ok guys lets get off the bank business. And on to the women. We all know how to make and save money. OUR MISSION is the beauties, we arent getting in the USA Not the teller machines.[/QUOTE]Fine.

There's this girl I met 2 years ago. Actually met her at the impromptu going away party some Colombian friends threw me on the last night of my year in Medellin. She just recently turned 21 and is cute as can be. We've kept in touch and I planned on hooking up with her last summer. Just never managed to get around to it.

Part of the problem, even though the Colombian friends who invited me over have played the P4P game, I don't think this girl has. We just talked and danced a bit. So, I wasn't sure whether taking her straight to bed was the right approach. I also didn't want any issue with the friend, who wanted a big chunk of my time.

Recently she hit me up and I could tell right away she was going to ask for money. She lost her job as a hairdresser, times are tough, yada, yada, yada. So I switched her onto a different track. She wants to open her own salon. I want to find a woman who will cut my hair wearing next to nothing. Somewhere between a lap dance and a haircut.

For the right girl, if I could find that in the US, I'd pay well for it. I've got a lot of hair. I've always, once I graduated from the local barber, enjoyed having my hair cut. I like a good lap dance. If the whole thing can be followed by a shower together and sex, take my money.

I brought it up to her and she got all excited. Offered her services on my next visit. Got her talking about the whole idea and she completely forgot to ask me if I'd send some money. Now she's thinking about opening a salon for men.

Am I the only one interested in something like this? If not, how much would you pay? The girl is hot (if you like petite flacas), clean, low mileage (doesn't appear to know any other gringos) and sweet. I know how much to pay her for sex. I am certain I can get her to do the whole thing for 150 k, over about 3 hours. I'm just curious what people think about a good price for the haircut, lapdance maybe partial strip tease.

[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2424665]I have been putting this advice to practice today. I started out creating a translation on Google Translate of my "want list". And then I took a screenshot of it so I can show it to the girl without a data connection. Something like this:

Sexo por una hora.

** # sin ropa.

** # chupar con condn.

** # follar con condon.

** # te llamo el coo.

** # Toco tu cuerpo, tus senos y tu coo.

Doy una propina por un buen servicio. No hay propina para el servicio regular.

# todo el dinero se paga despus del final de la hora #..[/QUOTE]Your really making this much more complicated than it needs to be, and these street walkers are not like the one's in Tijuana.

Here's what I suggest you tell the next one that you like.

Quiero tener sexo contigo, chupame sin condon, puedo entregarte 30 Mil, no mas, tomalo o dejalo, voy a pagar por la habitacion.

Don't get into time or anything else with these SW's as it isn't going to matter as nobody will be knocking at the door after 30 or 60 minutes and when you finish the session is over.

Again, you need to realize that this is not Tijuana.

Report back on how it goes, and standby your guns on the price as the majority of the girls will accept this amount. If a girl asks for more, just say "adios" and start walking.

And if you have a good experience with one, and want to repeat with them, give them a tip for sure as the next time you go with them they will most probably will treat you well.

Your in the drivers seat with these girls, so don't waffle with them if they ask for me. They would be lucky to get a Colombian to pay them 30 K as most of the Colombians just make "take it or leave it" offers to these girls at less than 30 K for short time.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2424688]Fine.

There's this girl I met 2 years ago. Actually met her at the impromptu going away party some Colombian friends threw me on the last night of my year in Medellin. She just recently turned 21 and is cute as can be. We've kept in touch and I planned on hooking up with her last summer. Just never managed to get around to it.

Part of the problem, even though the Colombian friends who invited me over have played the P4P game, I don't think this girl has. We just talked and danced a bit. So, I wasn't sure whether taking her straight to bed was the right approach. I also didn't want any issue with the friend, who wanted a big chunk of my time..[/QUOTE]I don't know about the low end of the price scale. I think if she made it more upscale with a nice place with shower and or bathtub and added more service like a sensual shave, manscaping trim, lots of teasing, ball massage and 2 pops by BJ and FS I would pay US $100+. Of course if she was dressed up in lingerie and stiletto with long flowing hair for an unforgettable experience.

Good luck to her.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2424688]Am I the only one interested in something like this? If not, how much would you pay? The girl is hot (if you like petite flacas), clean, low mileage (doesn't appear to know any other gringos) and sweet. I know how much to pay her for sex. I am certain I can get her to do the whole thing for 150 k, over about 3 hours. I'm just curious what people think about a good price for the haircut, lapdance maybe partial strip tease.[/QUOTE]All due respect Jbee, but you sound totally infatuated with this girl. You can get a great haircut in Poblado for 30 K, and I think giving her 150 K is more than generous. In fact, if she has never worked before, and doesn't have any FB girl friends, she might even go for less. But if she is such a turn on for you, ask her if it's okay if you give her 150 K for three hours including the haircut and take it from there. If she jumps on it, then you will know if she's a rookie. If not, you might have to raise the offer.

As far as the lap dance and the strip tease, I have no idea as to what those are worth. If they are naked and sucking my cock, that's enough of a tease for me.