Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2458192]Of course bareback is awesome. I don't really worry the disease part much but what about pregnancy? That would be an awful mess with an SB. Do you have a vasectomy or something that gives you confidence on this aspect?[/QUOTE]One of the main reasons why I joined SA 5 or 6 years ago is because I missed barebacking so much.

I was in SF a lot, and that's a place where AMPS everywhere. I was doing CFS about 3 x per week, but eventually that got boring. First time with an SB, the bareback felt incredible. I got hooked.

But like I said, I quit SA after almost 2 years on it, because it was so time consuming. And so I resume covered action with pros.

But a year later, I was with a retired pro (she now owns a few small businesses and has a BF), and in the heat of the action, she begged that we do it raw, and we did, and it felt amazing. I've been barebacking this retired pro ever since. But she lives in another city, so we only see each other a few times a year.

About a year ago, I was seeing one of my regular incalls, and in the heat of the moment, we start raw dawging and again it was heaven. I started barebacking her on a regular basis, but how fucking stupid is that? To raw dog an active pro? But I couldn't help it, as it felt incredible. But I eventually quit seeing her, because if she is barebacking a disgusting old man like me, then she's probably barebacking a lot of other guys too.

And now, covered action just feels so fucking lame now. On most days, I would rather get a handjob instead of CFS.

This is why I started trying to hook up with with married migrant workers. I started doing this last year. I got the idea from a housekeeper. I heard her on her cell phone talking about her local boyfriend, even though she's married with kids back home. This made me realize that there must be tens of thousands (maybe hundreds of thousands) of horny migrant workers in my city, doing the minimum wage jobs such as waitress, security guard, janitor, etc. I started flirting with so many of them. Sure, most of them laugh at me, but a good portion are flattered by the attention. I've got some good stories on this, but I digress.

I didn't get the snip snip, and so I have swimmers, so I am really, really, really fucking stupid. But what can I do? I cannot live without whoring and drinking, and the whoring part is a hundred times better uncovered. Maybe the coronavirus saved my life, LOL, since I cannot engage in uncovered whoring these days.

With the 2nd wave hitting the USA, and even with Beijing (which may be the strictest place on earth) getting another localized outbreak over the weekend, we may not be able to monger like we used to for a couple of more years. Maybe SBs and mistresses are the only way to go for now. I might have to reopen my SA account.

When you guys did bb with your SBs, did you normally end with CIP or withdraw the last few seconds as they do in porn? I'm curious if you regularly reminded your SBs if they're on birth ctrl? I can only assume you guys did bb when you've already done CFS with your SBs few times first. Right? Otherwise, I can't fathom any SB would allow you to do bb upon the first meet, nor would any SD be crazy enough to do bb without knowing little bit sexual histories of his SB.

I did bareback after a few meets and after making sure of that the baby is on a pill. It takes a lot of due diligence and trust to go bareback.

[QUOTE=MoneySign;2458345]When you guys did bb with your SBs, did you normally end with CIP or withdraw the last few seconds as they do in porn? I'm curious if you regularly reminded your SBs if they're on birth ctrl? I can only assume you guys did bb when you've already done CFS with your SBs few times first. Right? Otherwise, I can't fathom any SB would allow you to do bb upon the first meet, nor would any SD be crazy enough to do bb without knowing little bit sexual histories of his SB.[/QUOTE]

Holly Golightly broke two dates with me this week. She told me that $500 a week does not really change things for her. She still has to work in other words. I also think that the relationship was too close to being a prostitute for her. Since all the restaurants and entertainment venues are closed, it was just her coming over to my house and having sex. I think she was uncomfortable with the idea of it. She imagines it to be more a girlfriend-type arrangement. For me, I am not ready to take that step with her. There is a 46-year age difference. I didn't want to be seen in public places with her around my town. As Mick Jagger sang, "Don't want you out in my world, just be my backstreet girl. ".

It was the my first go at this type of thing. I overpaid but nothing that were really hurts. She was the type that I would enjoy a regular relationship. She was an attractive nerd. Given that she is turning down a reliable $2000 a month, she might have better offers. I have an issue with an alcoholic brother who I support so I have a budget limitations.

She did talk about wanting to travel. She mentioned weekend trips to various venues. She is an Instagram model with 16000 followers. Much of her Instagram is filled with pictures of her trips wearing new clothes. I might keep texting her every three days or so just to keep the irons hot and if I get an idea for a weekend trip as things open up, I might propose one to her. She was the one that brought vacationing together up in the conversation. The sex was good. Like I previously commented, it was equivalent to an hour room at FKK Sharks.

I am glad I did it. It took a bunch of time and money to get her in bed. But in the age of Covid-19, I have time and money.

[QUOTE=MoneySign;2458345]When you guys did bb with your SBs, did you normally end with CIP or withdraw the last few seconds as they do in porn? I'm curious if you regularly reminded your SBs if they're on birth ctrl? I can only assume you guys did bb when you've already done CFS with your SBs few times first. Right? Otherwise, I can't fathom any SB would allow you to do bb upon the first meet, nor would any SD be crazy enough to do bb without knowing little bit sexual histories of his SB.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Midwestern;2458303]I didn't get the snip snip, and so I have swimmers, so I am really, really, really fucking stupid. But what can I do? I cannot live without whoring and drinking, and the whoring part is a hundred times better uncovered. Maybe the coronavirus saved my life, LOL, since I cannot engage in uncovered whoring these days.[/QUOTE]MS, these two posts are both negative towards men. Any guy not checking a STD history is crazy, and any guy whoring around is stupid. We are trained to think that way, and when I was running around at first, I felt the same way. All I know is that getting pussy is the one thing that really made me happy, that made the anger within me be quiet for a while. Then I read the Bible or rather what Jesus is reportedly to have really said, scientific studies, and studied brain chemistry to figure out why I was the way I was. I was really conflicted. I felt like I was an asshole but in my heart, I knew I was not. What I learned was that I was normal and society was crazy.

Look at 1950's TV. The father was hard working, smart, wise. Today, with the exception of government workers who are portrayed as heroes, almost every guy on TV is some knockoff of Homer Simpson. Homer has the job but he just eats donuts and sleeps at his job while the wife, the angel, without a job is busting her ass at home. I worked damned hard to get where I was and I resent it when other people come along and imply that I did not.

Did you know in 1900 cocaine, heroin, and prostitution were all legal in the United States? What changed all that? Women got to vote.

From 1200 to 1400, the Roman Catholic Church ran brothels. The popes and preachers would make us mongers look like pikers. One in seven or 30,000 women were registered prostitutes with the church or one in every seven women in Rome. Monogamy was not born out of the bible but born out of syphilis coming from the new world to the old. Italy saw its first case in 1494, two years after Columbus. In 1550, the Anglican church put in the phrase "forsaking all others" and monogamy was THE way to have state approved sex.

Monogamy is not a big deal in other parts of the world. A man can have four wives in the Arabic world, and men are a lot more free to be men in the Far East.

Then there is brain chemistry. There was this little rat called the prairie vole. Scientists believed it was one of the only monogamous mammals there was. What scientists found is that the chemical reward for these voles was greater with their wives than with a new partner. Think about that for a second. If God is all powerful, why didn't he do that with us? Why are we constantly searching for new pussy and are chemically rewarded for dong so? Because God wants us too!! And it is not just us. Every male species gets tired of old pussy. It turns out there are no monogamous mammals!

So after all this money is spent on what makes this little rat monogamous, scientists did DNA testing on the offspring. It turns out that 25% of the baby rats were illegitimate. Whoops!

When scientists allowed monkeys to use coins for fruit, the monkeys soon learned to engage in prostitution. In fact, and this is the part that cracked me up, scientists demonized and punished monkeys for that behavior.

So you are one of society's planners and you have to get approval from the women, who make up 53% of the votes, right? What do you do? You demonize men right? You would be crucified if you told them men fucking as many and as much new pussy as possible is normal. So you elevate STDs for fear right? To scare them to do what you want? What makes a disease sexual in nature versus another disease? Most of that is politics. I swear I got strep throat from kissing a girl so why are warts a STD but strep is not? Because children get strep throat right? STDs are man made distinctions.

You won't hear about the fact that people who have sex live longer than those who do not. You will not hear that when you expose yourself to another person you are exposing yourself to new antigens and making your immune system smarter. That is what they used to do with measles. Prior to the measles vaccine, Children were told to expose themselves to measles earlier in life so they didn't get later when it was more dangerous.

Meanwhile, condoms, which never were meant for STDs but to prevent pregnancy, were elevated into having safe sex. You do not hear the dangers of latex allergies and condom use though do you? Condom use was said to be safe sex. Is it really if you look at the evidence?

And while it is "well known" that condoms prevent STDs, when you get specific about diseases and percentages, that conventional wisdom about condoms and STDs falls apart. There were studies done on the effectiveness on condoms and STDs. In fact, there was one huge one that changed my mind about condom use, but it was buried because it did not fit the political narrative. So what diseases do condoms prevent and what is the evidence that they do? I am not going to argue about it or try to convince you. Look at up yourself. Maybe I am wrong.

In fact, the whole STD thing gives government power. If someone infects you, then the government can step in. If we accept responsibility for the infection and take care of it on our own, then we do not need the government right?

So what really happened when women got power? It was supposed to be about female empowerment, but it really was not. It was about giving women the ability to deflect responsibility.

It kind of cracks me up about the testing part. Why would you test for HIV and not strep throat when you do testing on women? You know a ton of people who have had strep throat but you don't know anyone who got HIV from heterosexual sex do you?

I am sorry but I do not accept that I am an irresponsible, crazy asshole. I lived with that shame for a long time, and I am done with it.

What you are really saying MS is that you would like to engage in bareback sex but are afraid to do so. I get it. If you educate yourself and get to the bottom of things yourself, you probably won't be. Maybe you feel guilt with seeing working girls. I don't. It is normal. This society is the one that is fucked up.

Hi guys. I've been thinking about trying out SA for a few years now but was mongering on trips to Cuba and Columbia and day trips to Tijuana and the Hong Kong Club (I live very close to Mexico). I am going to register and take a look at the girls now that those activities have been shut down. I have read most of this forum. How important is it to set up a separate email account? I am single and self employed so not concerned with keeping my ID secret. Also in light of the covid, is this a good or bad time for finding SB's. Thanks in advance for any info.

How badly do you need it? Better to bang known chics after making sure that they are safe. Means that you should have known them and had a clear sense of their health.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2458457]Hi guys. I've been thinking about trying out SA for a few years now but was mongering on trips to Cuba and Columbia and day trips to Tijuana and the Hong Kong Club (I live very close to Mexico). I am going to register and take a look at the girls now that those activities have been shut down. I have read most of this forum. How important is it to set up a separate email account? I am single and self employed so not concerned with keeping my ID secret. Also in light of the covid, is this a good or bad time for finding SB's. Thanks in advance for any info.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2458455]MS, t

So you are one of society's planners and you have to get approval from the women, who make up 53% of the votes, right? What do you do? You demonize men right? You would be crucified if you told them men fucking as many and as much new pussy as possible is normal. So you elevate STDs for fear right? To scare them to do what you want? What makes a disease sexual in nature versus another disease? Most of that is politics. I swear I got strep throat from kissing a girl so why are warts a STD but strep is not? Because children get strep throat right? STDs are man made distinctions.

You won't hear about the fact that people who have sex live longer than those who do not. You will not hear that when you expose yourself to another person you are exposing yourself to new antigens and making your immune system smarter. That is what they used to do with measles. Prior to the measles vaccine, Children were told to expose themselves to measles earlier in life so they didn't get later when it was more dangerous.

Meanwhile, condoms, which never were meant for STDs but to prevent pregnancy, were elevated into having safe sex. You do not hear the dangers of latex allergies and condom use though do you? Condom use was said to be safe sex. Is it really if you look at the evidence?

And while it is "well known" that condoms prevent STDs, when you get specific about diseases and percentages, that conventional wisdom about condoms and STDs falls apart. There were studies done on the effectiveness on condoms and STDs. In fact, there was one huge one that changed my mind about condom use, but it was buried because it did not fit the political narrative. So what diseases do condoms prevent and what is the evidence that they do? I am not going to argue about it or try to convince you. Look at up yourself. Maybe I am wrong..[/QUOTE]The feminazi is a bit of a myth that is blamed for everything. Ever wonder why Trump still got all those women votes in 2016 even with his reputation with women? While some women are against prostitution, the ones with good looks knows what they have. They understand the perks that come when you are attractive. These include promotions and preferential treatment by successful men. So, while they are against prostitution on the outside, they do not really oppose it because it benefits them. Sugar babies knows this concept. They just pretend they are not doing for the money.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2458432]Holly Golightly broke two dates with me this week. She told me that $500 a week does not really change things for her. She still has to work in other words. I also think that the relationship was too close to being a prostitute for her. Since all the restaurants and entertainment venues are closed, it was just her coming over to my house and having sex. I think she was uncomfortable with the idea of it. She imagines it to be more a girlfriend-type arrangement. For me, I am not ready to take that step with her. There is a 46-year age difference. I didn't want to be seen in public places with her around my town. As Mick Jagger sang, "Don't want you out in my world, just be my backstreet girl. ".

It was the my first go at this type of thing. I overpaid but nothing that were really hurts. She was the type that I would enjoy a regular relationship. She was an attractive nerd. Given that she is turning down a reliable $2000 a month, she might have better offers. I have an issue with an alcoholic brother who I support so I have a budget limitations.

She did talk about wanting to travel. She mentioned weekend trips to various venues. She is an Instagram model with 16000 followers. Much of her Instagram is filled with pictures of her trips wearing new clothes. I might keep texting her every three days or so just to keep the irons hot and if I get an idea for a weekend trip as things open up, I might propose one to her. She was the one that brought vacationing together up in the conversation. The sex was good. Like I previously commented, it was equivalent to an hour room at FKK Sharks.

I am glad I did it. It took a bunch of time and money to get her in bed. But in the age of Covid-19, I have time and money.[/QUOTE]You are reading the tea leaves wrong. She knows exactly what she is geting into. With 16000 followers, you are not the only person she is seeking. You need to up your game. Instead of 2000 a month, try 3000-3500. Unfortunately, these prima donnas are high maintenance. She is what you call a well-kept woman.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2458457]Hi guys. I've been thinking about trying out SA for a few years now but was mongering on trips to Cuba and Columbia and day trips to Tijuana and the Hong Kong Club (I live very close to Mexico). I am going to register and take a look at the girls now that those activities have been shut down. I have read most of this forum. How important is it to set up a separate email account? I am single and self employed so not concerned with keeping my ID secret. Also in light of the covid, is this a good or bad time for finding SB's. Thanks in advance for any info.[/QUOTE]Truly better to try to stay anonymous. Sure she's fine now. But what if your SB turns south and stalks you or tries to make difficulty? No sense inviting trouble. Girls are used to fake names and contacts. They do the same. So yes set up a "girls" account and pick a name you will go by consistently.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2458303]
This is why I started trying to hook up with with married migrant workers. I started doing this last year. I got the idea from a housekeeper. I heard her on her cell phone talking about her local boyfriend, even though she's married with kids back home. This made me realize that there must be tens of thousands (maybe hundreds of thousands) of horny migrant workers in my city, doing the minimum wage jobs such as waitress, security guard, janitor, etc. I started flirting with so many of them. Sure, most of them laugh at me, but a good portion are flattered by the attention. I've got some good stories on this, but I digress.

[/QUOTE]Would you share some of the stories? I'm curious to see how this has been working for you.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2458432]Holly Golightly broke two dates with me this week. She told me that $500 a week does not really change things for her. She still has to work in other words. I also think that the relationship was too close to being a prostitute for her. Since all the restaurants and entertainment venues are closed, it was just her coming over to my house and having sex. I think she was uncomfortable with the idea of it. She imagines it to be more a girlfriend-type arrangement. For me, I am not ready to take that step with her. There is a 46-year age difference. I didn't want to be seen in public places with her around my town. As Mick Jagger sang, "Don't want you out in my world, just be my backstreet girl. ".

It was the my first go at this type of thing. I overpaid but nothing that were really hurts. She was the type that I would enjoy a regular relationship. She was an attractive nerd. Given that she is turning down a reliable $2000 a month, she might have better offers. I have an issue with an alcoholic brother who I support so I have a budget limitations.

She did talk about wanting to travel. She mentioned weekend trips to various venues. She is an Instagram model with 16000 followers. Much of her Instagram is filled with pictures of her trips wearing new clothes. I might keep texting her every three days or so just to keep the irons hot and if I get an idea for a weekend trip as things open up, I might propose one to her. She was the one that brought vacationing together up in the conversation. The sex was good. Like I previously commented, it was equivalent to an hour room at FKK Sharks.

I am glad I did it. It took a bunch of time and money to get her in bed. But in the age of Covid-19, I have time and money.[/QUOTE]After being stood twice, she calls me this morning saying she can be there in a 30 minutes. I have no plans. Sundays are like every other day under Covid-19. I say okay. So I guess the $500 is enticing enough for her. She asked me if it was okay to hang out at my house while she does her homework. I am thinking it might be okay. One girl during Covid-19 is enough risk. This one is not perfect but she is fun enough. I am willing to keep it going.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2458455] I felt like I was an asshole but in my heart, I knew I was not. What I learned was that I was normal and society was crazy.


What you are really saying MS is that you would like to engage in bareback sex but are afraid to do so. I get it. If you educate yourself and get to the bottom of things yourself, you probably won't be. Maybe you feel guilt with seeing working girls. I don't. It is normal. This society is the one that is fucked up.[/QUOTE]This is one of the best written screeds on this forum that I've ever read. I usually skim long posts, but I read every single word of yours. So, you bareback pros all the time? Because of you, I may go back to barebacking that pro that I used to bareback regularly.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2458457]Hi guys. I've been thinking about trying out SA for a few years now but was mongering on trips to Cuba and Columbia and day trips to Tijuana and the Hong Kong Club (I live very close to Mexico). I am going to register and take a look at the girls now that those activities have been shut down. I have read most of this forum. How important is it to set up a separate email account? I am single and self employed so not concerned with keeping my ID secret.[/QUOTE]For a site like SA, you should definitely use an anonymous email account. Think about the Ashley Madison fiasco. Some hacker uncovered tens of thousands (or was it milllions?) of registered users' email accounts, and threatened to make them all public. Remember that?

Recently, there's this scam: [URL]https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/blog/2020/04/scam-emails-demand-bitcoin-threaten-blackmail[/URL].

I was ALSO a target of the above scam. I got an email to my anonymous email account saying that my password is XYZ (which was correct!) and they said they know that I am a registered user of a sex site. Unless I gave them bitcoins, they were going to send an email to all of my contacts to let them know about my indiscretions.

So, any time you do something that you don't want people to know about, use an anonymous email and a unique password for it.