Medellin Reports

Even though I have nowhere the resources this man has, I understand his point of view. Every human being deserves to be treated with dignity and respect, especially when we travel to their lands. I have seen how disrespectful other people from the U. S. treat people in their lands. Usually, and deservedly in many cases, the locals don't tolerate the abuse. That's how, in many occasions, you hear of people getting their asses kicked. A lot of times, we don't see how our culture may clash with the host's way of living. At the same time, nickeling and diming providers can only result in one thing: Bad service. In all my travels, I've had bad service in 2 occasions; however, if you meet enough providers, you are bound to find an awful one from time to time. From my perspective, it is still not a good practice to complain in public or humiliate anyone for what happened. It is only money. I know for a fact that I will get it back. People are fighting everyday for bread and shelter in these countries, so they will do anything to get it. We are not entitled to dismiss their practices as it is us that are leaving the confines of our society to take advantage of theirs. As long as what you do makes you happy, does not offend anyone, or break the law, go for it. After all, we are all pursuing the same thing, our happiness. There is no need for put downs, accusations of price inflation, nickel and diming providers, etc. We all know our limits, so we need to stick to them and not worry about what the other guy does.

[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]What I am talking about here is RESPECT not how much you guys are actually paying. If you people make an agreement to pay 50,000 pesos then that is a perfectly legitimate deal but there is no reason to act in such a disrespectful manner.

[QUOTE=George0724]What Uncle Jack is basically saying is that he wants us to leave the chicas to the rich like him because we can't or choose not to pay what he can.

Let someone with Bill Gates' money go down and tell Uncle Jack that he's a piker for not giving the girls what Bill can, and I'll bet he would make the same arguments as we do against what he is saying.

Some of the guys on this board don't even make $45k net and even if they wanted to pay what Uncle Jack suggests is appropriate, they wouldn't have the money to eat or even get home.

I am not attacking the man, only his elitist attitude and his attack on we papis pobres.

Not everyone can abandon his family, move to Colombia, and spend his life savings on Colombianas.[/QUOTE]I don't get that from his posts at all. For me, his main point is that it pains him to see gringo low lifes acting stupid in public and routinely disrespectful to the girls. He's just articulating it to the community. Maybe he got fed up with it and just decided to let them have with both barrells. This board is better for it.

I've run into and seen the same types, albeit in many different forms, my whole travelling life. IMO, they should never step outside the US and I avoid them like the plague.

[QUOTE=Dude55]My answer:

Who is disrespecting whom? Whenever there is a transaction that took place both parties are happy, right? Why the name calling about American "scum"?[/QUOTE]Because they are.

Like all of us Uncle Jack is both very insightful and willfully ignorant at the same time.

He is right on when he says that mongers need to treat the paisas with respect. This is a universal truism that doesn't go away just because you change you whole latitude.

However, he is just plain too comfortable in his own income bracket to understand the middle class type of guys who mostly frequent the mansion. Inflation is also a universal truism that Uncle Jack is mostly shielded from by a relatively large financial nestegg and a relatively short remaining life expectancy.

He is swimming in completely different waters than the typical mansion monger and so is basically coming here with an apples to oranges economic argument. Of course the common gringo is concerned about inflation in prices. To fail to recognize this as a real concern is just ignorant.

Secondly, despite what anyone of the "high rollers" here writes, Aussie Greg included, the pool of chicas that the typical mansion style middle class gringo monger is likely to be able to afford absolutely dwarfs the pool of chicas that the high rollers are talking about. By definition there will be more middle class mongers, both gringos and colombians, than there will be high rollers.

However, the paisas who are in the places that mansion mongers normally frequent - Mansion girls, San Diego, Face Dos, and about a dozen parlors - is actually quite small. Without a conscious effort to avoid paying higher prices, over time inflation will ensue.

I have been traveling to Medellin since December of 2003. On my first trip Loutron, the popular parlor, was 80k pesos and the dollar was trading at 2800 to 1. Thats $28.57 a pop gentlemen. Loutron is now 175k and the dollar is hovering around 1800 to 1. Thats $97.22 folks, a 340% increase in 4 1/2 years. Gas hasn't gone up that much.

I'm not arguing that Medellin isn't still a great place to enjoy a great time, but at this rate lots of folks will be getting priced out.

Better recognize.

Shafty7

[QUOTE=Uncle Jack]I retired and moved to Medellin almost 8 years ago. I have been reading this forum for a few months to get the occasional chuckle. But I finally got to jump in here and straighten things out since you guys have no idea what you are talking about.

Gringos do not set the price of pussy in Medellin except in places where gringos all hang out. Indeed, your influence in this area is so small outside of the mansion that it is laughable.

I bet no one on this forum has ever actually met the type of girl the rich Colombians are screwing. These girls would not be seen dead with a tourist gringo. They are getting probably the equivalent of $1000 USD a night from Colombian men.

Yes, that is not a mistake, I am talking 2 million pesos or more for TLN. You guys think you can compete with that?

There are top notch girls in Medellin that can get whatever they want. I am talking genuine models not wannabies. Many of the University students have Colombian Sugar Daddies that pay their entire tuition, books and other expenses. But I assure you that 99. 999% of the University students are not going to be seen in public with a gringo. These girls are very aware of their class position and realize that most of the gringos in Medellin are poor low class scum in the United States. These girls only date Colombians, or in the rare case rich gringos that live in Medellin.

I myself have lots of money and mingle with the upper class Colombians. I also speak perfect Spanish. Almost every wealthy Colombian I know has at least one mistress and they treat them like a princess, money, school, clothes, etc. Etc. Why would these girls want to be with some lowlife gringo who thinks he can give her $50?

One of my Colombian friends introduced me to his mistress. She is a girl that looks better than any of the Mango dancers. She attends the University of Medellin on his dime. Not only is she drop dead gorgeous but she is also smart and speaks English to some degree. She is a real "prepago" not some gringo puta. She will probably be with him until she graduates and gets a real job. She would never be described as a wh0re since she is with only this one guy until he dumps her.

She introduced me to two of her friends that I am now maintaining. The only way these girls agreed to meet a gringo was because of good references from the friend and the fact that I live here and have lots of money. I am seen as an investor here not as a tourist, and that was the big difference that allowed me to meet them.

Here is how things unfolded. The first girl was brought over to my house. I had to take her out for diner and talk to her so she would decide if she wanted to become my prepago. She had no sexual contact the first day. She then called me the next day and said that she would be my "girlfriend". She then came over and fucked my brains out. She never asked for one peso for the first couple of weeks. When it came time to pay her tuition the bill magically appeared in my office. We both understand that this is how it works but there is never any discussion of money. In her eyes she is not a wh0re but just a girl who needs a way to have an education.

The second girl got connected with me in the exact same way and our relationship is almost exactly identical. They know I am with more than one girl, and the occasional puta, but that is ok as long as it is not talked about.

So how much does it end up costing when I do the math? I would say about $2000 USD a month for each girl. I rotate the two girls every night so they are screwing me about 15 times a month. That works out to about $135 USD a night which is really cheap when I do the math like that.

In exchange for $4000 a month I get two girls that worship the ground I walk on. Normally one will come over in the evening about 6:00pm and we will have diner, talk about her school, and then fuck for a couple of hours. In the morning we will fuck again and then she will go off to school. Both of them are drop dead gorgeous teenagers. One is 18 and the other is 19. They could easily be Mango dancers but they would not lower themselves to that. They do not use condoms and have both been tested. They treat me exactly like they would their Colombian boyfriend. When they graduate they will go on to have normal jobs unlike many of the girls in Medellin who aspire to only be putas all their lives.

These girls are pure quality that can demand whatever price they want and get it. You are not going to find them hanging out in Mangos or within 10 miles of the mansion. You might see them in Parque Llerras but they are not going to talk to you. You know the girls you see in Llerras that are "stuck up", well the reason they are like that is they know most of the gringos are lowlifes and that a Colombian man will treat them like a princess.

All you guys who are with 50, 000 pesos girls have no idea what is out there. If you have money, real money, and you live here, then you really can have some of the most beautiful woman on the planet. These are what the Colombians call "prepagos" not the girls that mix with the outsiders.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen

Why is Uncle Jacks point of view shocking to some? He is so spot on its not funny! God Bless him for giving blunt reality in this forum! Bottom line. In society circles anywhere in the world this holds true. Living in Los Angeles especially! When I first arrived and was making my why up the industry ladder. I dating some nice looking women. Now 15 years later at the top of my game in my profession and the money that goes along with it. No more hot waitresses. I've now finally go into the holy grail of "Playboy" type of women. 15 years ago I used to see these women with the older guys and wonder why? And mind you. I'm a decent lookiing educated guy with a good personality and such but couldn't get more than a first date back then. These girls would size you up on that first date. And if they didn't think you were gonna afford them what they needed. That phone would not be picked up again. Is it cristal clear now? . Wealth and position in any part of the world at any time in history always has and will bear the fruit of that. The average guy drives a nice Ford. People in my circles drive nice Mercedes and such. Some men hire maids while other date maids. Bottom line is beautiful women cost money. Alot of it. And not everybody can afford it. Trips, shopping, getting hair and nails done. Nice dinners, entertaiment cost, acting classes etc etc. Hell. A girl I'm dating wanted to see the Lakers. Cost me $1200 for the night. These type of girls arent gonna sit in the 3rd level gentlemen. Buy those tickets. It will be the last time you see her. She'll find the guy that will buy the floor seats in one day having lunch with her friends at Sunset Plaza.

If your looking for love. Go find a nice girl outside of a major city. In the world I and so many in the world run in its all about power, status and money. Love is something that will be there as long as you maintaining the lifesytle. I work may ass off and I'm gonna enjoy the finer things in life. Even when I travel abroad.

In Medellin I'm not ingrained in the upper level of society there like Uncle Jack. But I do have resources that get me the university girls. And it costs. Sometime 2-3 times what the average guy on here pays. I know I know. I'm driving up prices right? No I'm not. As Uncle Jack has pointed out. These girls do this on the side to get ahead. But not with the average tourists paying average prices. As one giirl told me. She just would'nt even bother getting out of bed for those prices. All this holds true with best looking women in Russia, Asia, Canada, Europe etc etc.

And please don't take this post wrong or as any kind of put down gentlmen. It was not meant for that. Only to give another educated point of view of the hobby and lifestyle we live.

Best to all!

Seal85

[QUOTE=BlackSultan]Bog you are one hellified dude with the NASTY pics.[/QUOTE]Hi.

I'm sorry, my vocabulary is too short to understand this word (hellified), and so is my dictionary.

Mind explaining it to me?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Magic2000]Col Bog 1,

As always fabulous photos and movies. I was curious, I understand you prefer smaller lighter girls but did you chose this one again because she has great sex skills and attitude? I ask this because she is slightly heavier, she is still very nice, I am not implying anything disrespectfull towards her but just wondered. Also could I politely ask why the intercourse scenes in general are short but the oral scenes are long, just curious. I really like the long oral scenes. Please do not be offended by my questions in any way, I am a big fan of yours, I really enjoy all your work here and we are really lucky to have the imput of your time and efforts.

Best of luck,

Magic[/QUOTE]Hi Magic2000.

Thanks for your encouragements.

I see no disrespect in your mail and will try to answer you.

1) Why are my intercourse movies always shorter than the oral scenes?

It is mainly due to my poor capacity of screwing keeping the camera focused on the action. I found it very dificult to do and I always move a lot.

I can assure you that I have tried several way to do it, but, so far, I still have the problem. Best thing would be to have a third person taking the camera while I screw, but this is not easy to find neither.

Meanwhile, while on my back, it's much easier to make the movie watching the girl blowing me.

Another thing is that I'm not young anymore and have to remain concentrate to screw or I'll loose stiffness. I have no such problem with oral action and can easily focus on the movie.

2) Paola.

Yes you're right.

She is by no way the kind of girl that attracts me, but she was recommended by Camila (another good girl), and I always try the recommended girls as I have had my best experiences with them (like Karen, recommended by Acuerpado).

I mean, Paola is not young, not thin (as I like), but she loves to fuck and does it very well. I don't like to screw with girls who are telling me all the time to hurry, that I'm too big, that I have to give them more money for this or that. My relation with Paola is a sexual relation with respect, and, I hope, some friendship.

I was with her yesterday all night long till this morning, and we both pushed our sexual experiments a little further than we had never did before...(to be published later).

I have never been able to do this with a quick meeting. I do go with casa's girls and even street girls, but the experiment is always bad to average as it takes time to establish a relation and start to enjoy having sex with a customer. I really love to feel the girl enjoying what I do with them. I'm not stupid enough to think they love me or things like that. But Paola and Karen for example like to have sex with me. Once again, they wouldn't do it for free of course, but I really think they like to do it with me, and this increase my pleasure.

To resume : I prefer to fuck well with a 4 (or even a 3), than badly with a10 as it has happened to me so often.

Thanks

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Was in Medellin recently for business. However, did find time to explore some of the P4P scene on the budget end. Checking the map that has the photos attached (thanks, Dutchman), found out that I was pretty close to New Life (cll. 56, "Bolivia", #43-39, 2nd Fl), so had to check it out. Wound up going back three days in a row.

New Life is a well-run casa. The manager had me sit down in an alcove with some couches, then asked the girls to present themselves. Good line-up; must have been 12-15 girls, most of whom were do-able, with some very attractive ones. After picking the girl, you proceed to a room with a full bathroom for the session. If you want a drink, you can order one and have it added to your tab. Payment is afterwards, at a cashier’s window. Cost quoted was 35, 000/30 min. , 45, 000/45 min. When you pay, they offer you a candy, like as if you were settling the bill at a restaurant. In all of my sessions, the girls enjoyed themselves too or were much better actresses than I deserved for my 45, 000. Also, each time we finished, they were more than happy to spend the rest of the time cuddling and telling me their life stories.

My first choice was "Tatiana" (though she called herself "Veronica" the last day I was there). Tall, leggy blonde, 27-year old, pretty face – though not pretty enough to make her claim about being compared to Julia Roberts plausible. Huge silver dollar nipples, but pretty bad implants, nice figure, especially since she told me she had an 11-year old daughter. She also told me she worked in LDV in Cartagena in the past. It was an excellent session. DFK from the start, good CBJ with some ball licking. When I played with her pussy, she got really wet, and seemed to come – even squirting a little. Several positions for FS.

The next day, I snuck out for another afternoon session. Tatiana was still there, but I decided to go for variety. Picked a pretty morena named Sophia, originally from Cali; another excellent choice. Could have starred in "Big Tits, Round Ass. " What caught my attention was the way she filled out her jeans with her bubble butt. When we were in the room and undressed, I was a little disappointed to see that she had a bit of a belly in front, and thick legs. But that ass was definitely a keeper, and she had a very nice hourglass shape from behind (good hip-waist ratio) that drove me wild when we did FS in doggy. Sophia also claimed to be 27, and she too had a daughter – 9 years old. Sophia gave me a PSE. She didn’t DFK, but made up for it in other ways. She showed off her nice ass as she gave me a great wet, sloppy CBJ, including DT. She fingered herself with her pussy inches from my face, then lowered herself down on me for DATY. She loved to talk dirty during the session. We did FS in several positions, finishing in a very energetic doggy.

On the third day, I took advantage of my last day in the Centro and made my last visit to New Life. Saw both Tatiana and Sophia, but wound up going for the first girl in the line up, blonde Juliet, because I thought she was really pretty. Of the three chicas, the session with Juliet paled in comparison to those with Tatiana and Sophia. When Juliet undressed, she showed the effects of having a kid (3-year old daughter), and had thick legs. She wasn’t too enthusiastic, and didn’t smell very fresh below. She did loosen up after a bit, and we wound up having a good session, but she was the only one of the three that I would not repeat with.

The best thing about New Life that I can say is that, even going three times in three days, there were still lots of girls who intrigued me and who I would have loved to have taken on a trial run.

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Casa Orentia (the casa with the white doors near Las Palmas)

Anywaz I checked out the place, multa is 120K COP, plus what arrangments you can come up with the chica.

Inhouse service is 150K for the chica and 70K for the room, grand total 230K for an hour, I thought it was kinda expensive, but I thought I would share the prices with yall.

Chicas, quality was good, about 10 plus girls, nice big house sofas ect. They offer liqour but not beer, open till 5am.

i moved to medellin about 8 years ago but my first trip was closer to 11 years ago. i was on the board of directors of a philanthropy society. we had historically distributed our money to help the poor in the united states. however, in the nineties there was a feeling amongst our society that too many of the american poor had developed an entitlement complex where they just expected money to be handed to them time and time again. so we began exploring other options which ultimately resulted in about 15 million dollars being spent in latin american countries.

it was my job to travel around south america to see if our work was achieving results. there were no gringos in medellin 11 years ago and it was very dangerous in many places. a church group in colombia had set up a program for a group of displaced people living a few hours from medellin. i was brought into this small village "undercover". a group of about 40 people knew who i was but it was there job to make sure no one else found out. i lived with these people for about a week before returning to medellin. i then spent a couple months in medellin meeting with various charitable groups and other churches. i am not a religious person but we found working with religious groups is often more beneficial for the society than "for profit" ngos.

in medellin i met many, many, many girls from all classes of society that who had never seen a gringo in real life. none of them really asked me for cash flat out. i am not a foolish old man and completely realize that why these girls are attracted to me. however, even though i know the attraction is the money i still always saw a kindness in their hearts that i no longer see in american women. as a rich old geezer there are no shortages of young american woman who will try for a piece of the pie. i have been around gold diggers all my life so if anyone thinks i am driving at night with shades on, you better think again! what i can assure you is that american gold diggers are conniving cold hearted and ruthless. medellin girls are just trying to get ahead in life.

after medellin i traveled to several other places in latin america and often found the same type of kindness in the women that i did not see in the united states. the women i found in latin america reminded me of american woman who lived before the 1960s. they were sincere, loving and sensual beings unlike their modern day american counterparts. i was married for over 30 years until death did us part. i never cheated on my wife and i love her dearly. when she died i felt i would never be attracted to another woman again not because i could not find a gold digger but rather because gold diggers were all that were available. latin america changed everything for me since although i know the girls come with a price tag i also know there is a real human being inside of the body and am not so sure i can say the same thing in the united states. i did not have the opportunity to return to medellin for over a year but when i did i decided i would purchase an apartment and retire here.

over the years i have had every type of girl from every class of society in colombia. i often give them much more money than they are expecting simply because i understand that they need this money much more than i do. i do not spoil them by buying them houses or cars because that will make them just like by grandchildren. my grandchildren and great grandchildren are trust fund "surfer dudes" and wannabe paris hiltons. i have asked them to come to colombia many times because i want them to see how other people live but they are always a little too busy. they think when i die there it is going to be a giant tidal wave of money rolling into their trust funds but i will be laughing last in my coffin when they see the big zero.

some of the girls i have been with are the high society model girls who are largely only with rich colombians. these girls will ask for 2-3 million pesos for the night and colombian men will pay it. some of these women have accumulated a lot of money and some come from fairly well off families. however, they still charge for their services because they know they can. there is one modeling agency that deals exclusively with the high-end girls. they have a catalogue of girls with prices ranges starting at 2 million and ending up over 10 million for one particular woman who is a well known model. i am not going to say her name here but even though she is a rich model she is available and this is commonly known amongst the rich. she would not be seen dead with a tourist so it does not matter much to you guys.

on the other end of the scale i have been with girls directly from the ghetto. i have spent a lot of time in the poorest of poor areas overseeing projects i helped started. nobody knows who i am since i never put my name on anything as that would make my life very complicated. nevertheless, i do go up into some of the worse areas at least once a month.

the poor girls from the ghetto have a ruff life. this often results in them acting too hungry and trying to just grab what they can. however, at the same time some of them have hearts of gold and really appreciate your help. this is why i am so bitter towards these ******* scum americans who i see trying to talk down a girl $5 because they think it is cool. you guys are the lowest of the low and i would love to see some of you start getting what you deserve.

i will tell about one ghetto girl that was really special. about two months ago someone who knows me found a genuine sweetheart in a strata two area. the guy who found her said she had just turned 18, was absolutely beautiful but dirt poor. i have several people who look for these types of girls for me all over medellin.

this girl was told she would get 150, 000 pesos an hour and was very happy with that amount. when i saw her i was shocked at how genuinely beautiful she is. what was nicer though is she treated me with kindness. after sex she held my hand and talked about her life. she said that she wanted to go to school and study tourism. i really thought she was sweet.

if she did a "fuck and run" she would have got the 150, 000 pesos we had agreed on. however, since she made me smile i put a million pesos in an envelope and put it in her purse as she was leaving. she said thanks and left.

the most amazing thing happened about 5 minutes later which is why i am telling this story. she actually came back with the envelope to tell me i made a mistake. she thought i had handed her the wrong envelope and did not want me to think she had stole from me. i gave her another million for her honesty.

i told her then and there to never sell herself to any gringo except me. i told her when she needs money to think of me. she is a poor girl that very much could have ended up on the streets. the idea of some scumbag gringo corrupting her by trying to offer her 50, 000 pesos makes me sick.

so she goes home thinking that gringos are nice generous people. the irony is she will probably now seek out gringos. unfortunately if she does seek out gringos then she is going to run into some of the clowns i saw at the restaurant. she may very well have sex with some of these scumbags for 50, 000. they will probably sit around giving the hi-fives to each other and perhaps one of them will say he only gave her 40, 000. if that happens she will quickly change and her opinion of gringos will be that they are all like the scum that is showing up these days in medellin. she will then become a "fuck and run" girl who takes what she can.

i talk to a very few number of gringos in colombia. the gringos i know are all people who invested money here and are living here. we all agree 100% about what i have been saying about the scum that is showing up. you clowns are starting to make americans in general look bad. there is a lot of talk amongst the colombians about how you idiots are acting. if the clowns continue leading us down the path that we are heading then the colombians will soon grow to hate us. and this is the most important point!

i believe we are almost at the crossroads here in medellin where we will all either continue to be welcome guests or we will be seen as a bunch of lowlifes. every day i hear more and more comments about the stupidity of americans. three or four years ago i never heard one colombian say a bad word about any american but now almost on a daily bases i hear comments.

about a month ago i was in the park with some colombian friends. we eat diner about once a week in parque lleras. a gringo walks by with some dark black wildebeest of a woman with her breasts hanging out and her shorts shoved up her ass. almost everyone at my table started laughing and pointing this out. i noticed that other colombians at other tables were pointing this out as well. i was so embarrassed to be an american at that moment i felt like walking over and whacking this idiot over the head with my cane. i wonder if that piece of trash american is reading this right now? if so you committed a huge faux pas in front of hundreds of people. no colombian man would be seen dead in public with that girl. everyone is saying "look at that lowlife gringo with no shame. " you might as well have put a giant sign over your head saying "look at me i am white trash". if that type of woman is what you desire then enjoy her in your hotel but do not be parading her around strata 6 when people are trying to eat.

so as i said we are soon going to be hated by a lot of people because of the path the scum is setting for us. you clowns are an embarrassment for us all. learn to pay these girls all that you can afford so you set a high standard for gringos. you assholes who cannot afford what the colombians are paying should stay at home rather than bring shame on us all. and remember that these girls are human beings and should be treated as such.

my grandfather was a wealthy man and one thing he always told me was that no matter how much money someone has that if they do not have character then they are equal to a cockroach and deserve to be crushed. i can remember my father and him each morning greeting each worker with a handshake. they would sit and have a coffee with even the gardeners and ask about how their lives were. they never felt they were better than anyone and treated everyone with respect.

i think of them when i see the scum gringos walking around medellin. you guys think you are better then these people because you have a little more money than they do. you think you can treat some poor girl on the street like she is dirt since you were fortunate enough to be born in the united states. i am telling you that you are wrong. these girls are better than you. you are the bottom of the barrel and a complete disgrace to humanity. in short: you have no character. and keep that in mind because some of us have big feet.

i am going to get off my soapbox now. i do not think i will be making many more posts on this site but i will read it. the problem is i have arthritis and cannot type very much. so i have to go over to a friends place to write up these speeches. we spent two hours writing this up and i cannot burden him with these tasks every day.

on my final note, the next time i see you clowns making asses of yourselves in public i may not restrain myself. beware of the cane!

my $2000 a month girl is coming over now. she wants to cook up some cookies for me. bye guys.

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My take out of this whole thread is that no matter what your economic status is, if your in this hobby, try to act like an adult and show you girl, no matter where you got her some respect. I have found that if you treat them nice they will want you to be a repeat customer, treat them as nothing more than a warm hole, and no matter how much money you toss at her your experience will not be the best.

Some of you have raised questions about how much this guy is spending. If you go back to his first post you will see that he figured it out to be about $135 a night. If you read into his post it is also sin condom. A lot of you will pay a premium for that service.

Like Uncle Jack said, don't be talking up your conquests with your buddies in the cafe down the street, you never know who is within earshot and not everybody wants to hear about what you did last night and what you paid for it. Try to show a little class.

Jack. I'm glad your living your life the way you want to. Screw anybody that has an issue with that. I just wish I was in the same tax bracket as you, but I know my "Stimulus check" will be going to help stimulate an economy that Mr. Bush would frown upon. LOL

RG.

I like to speak in facts, things you can prove, things you observe. I realize I don't have the experience that guys like Ricker, Aussie Greg, Uncle Jack, Jackson, Sandman, Relapse, Seal85 ect have. I am only 27 years old, but going to sea these past 5 years and seeing the world I can understand exactly what your talking about, and I mostly agree. I came to Medellin to live when I was 25, not 85, or 45, or 55. I watch you guys, see how you operate ect. But lets get real.

Were all in Colombia because our money buys more, its cheap, nice and we get women we couldn't normally get, or these women treat us especially well becuase of our money, age, profession and class (I don't like the word class, plebe, 1st class, 4th class I thought it was B. S. Then and B. S. Now; but its life).

When I talk about prices here its only to assist mongers so they know what to pay, and don't get taken advantage. Honest business, you pay the set rates and have a good time.

Theres a word I like its called "community" and thats what we are us "gringos" in Medellin are a community like it or not.

Uncle Jack, some of your comments were exactly right on, respect Colombia, respect Colombian women don't treat them badly, don't hit them, pay them what was agreed upon and be gentlmen like and you will go far in Colombia. The essence of your reports was more like I have money and top quality girls so hahaha. That doesnt help anybody. If the point was that there are men with money who pay women lots of money I think everybody learned that lesson, its the reason why WERE ALL IN Colombia, AND READING THIS BOARD.

I agree a puta is a puta, prepago, grill, whatever, I personally find more respect for a women who sells her body to feed her family then a college girl who dates a 80 year old man for nice shoes, tuition and clothes. The only diffrence that matters is attitude, and how they treat you, make you feel. To each his own and it is what it is, but all this talk about class and the difference is stupid, and only serves to make the client feel better about his purchase! But don't kidd yourself or fool yourself becuase it is what it is

Colombia is changing, more gringos are coming in, our dollar is falling everybody needs to chip in with advice, and experience on getting gourgous women, and great service.

[QUOTE=Sailor2006]I like to speak in facts, things you can prove, things you observe. I realize I don't have the experience that guys like Ricker, Aussie Greg, Uncle Jack, Jackson, Sandman, Relapse, Seal85 ect have. I am only 27 years old, but going to sea these past 5 years and seeing the world I can understand exactly what your talking about, and I mostly agree. I came to Medellin to live when I was 25, not 85, or 45, or 55. I watch you guys, see how you operate ect. But lets get real ...
[/QUOTE]Mi amigo Sailor, I dig what your saying!

What's funny to me is, now after Uncle Jack's posts, all these other guys making posts about how rich they are too.

You know as well as I do, the key to really enjoying Colombia and its' beautiful women is being able to talk with them and enjoy their loving nature.

Simply pay them fairly and treat them with kindness. It's very easy and very rewarding actually.

To be honest, most other gringos I meet in Colombia are OK, but the popularity of Medellin has certainly attracted some trash, and that's too bad.

Take care amigo