Hong Kong Club Reports

[QUOTE=AnonX69;1887870]Same owners as Cascadas as someone mentioned. All specials are applicable at rizo, you can even get room services from azul to the rooms. I have taken girls from HK to rizo, some girls don't know they can go rizo, but the doorman allows it, no prob. Since the 80% off on mon, tues. i can never get a master suite at cascadas, it's usually sold out by the time i get there in the evening. I have been using rizo when in the zona.

I generally prefer the double master with two beds, one to play in and one to sleep in (3rd, 4th photos) $24 with 80% off. My girl usually toss and turn a lot at night, so I make her sleep in the small bed =: ) . Or you can get their master suite (2nd photo) which is smaller than cascadas master (1st photo) $16 on Mon., Tues. Which is only $5 more than cascadas basic room off. Rizo master suites lack the fridge and safe you will find at cascadas. most importantly, rizo ground floor for their suites are quiet, very quite, no traffic.[/QUOTE]Looks like you might need sunglasses to use that room with the lights on, he he he.

[QUOTE=Jicks;1887872]I recently became VIP member, by mistake provided my full name for the card. Later noticed they use very old outdated OS, easy for someone to hack and post information online in future. I want to warn people to avoid providing full personal details for VIP card. BTW, my entire trip was a blast.

My 2 cents.[/QUOTE]When using the coupons, HK management ask for e-mail address. Not sure why? I have never received any advertisement, spam, or anything on those e-mail accounts. My thinking two years past?

Thanks for the the 2 cents. I will make sure I pass the 2 cents to a chica. He he he.

Where did you pick up this sexy babe? Most definitely you could never find anything that pretty in Playboy.

In Playboy you are more likely to find her toothless great grandma crack ho. Hehe.

[QUOTE=AnonX69;1887262]Yup, this is the toothless ho on crack for you, I enjoy her every weekend. You may recognize the museum and las pulgas in the background. Got me so horny, we got it on with the curtains open.

the other pic is at her condo[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jicks;1887872]I recently became VIP member, by mistake provided my full name for the card. Later noticed they use very old outdated OS, easy for someone to hack and post information online in future. I want to warn people to avoid providing full personal details for VIP card. BTW, my entire trip was a blast.

My 2 cents.[/QUOTE]I bought my first VIP card years ago and they required a valid ID. They misspelled my last name and since then they just copy the incorrect spelling for the next card. Did they stop requiring an ID to purchase VIP card?

[QUOTE=AnonX69;1887870]Same owners as Cascadas as someone mentioned. All specials are applicable at rizo, you can even get room services from azul to the rooms. I have taken girls from HK to rizo, some girls don't know they can go rizo, but the doorman allows it, no prob. Since the 80% off on mon, tues. i can never get a master suite at cascadas, it's usually sold out by the time i get there in the evening. I have been using rizo when in the zona.

I generally prefer the double master with two beds, one to play in and one to sleep in (3rd, 4th photos) $24 with 80% off. My girl usually toss and turn a lot at night, so I make her sleep in the small bed =: ) . Or you can get their master suite (2nd photo) which is smaller than cascadas master (1st photo) $16 on Mon., Tues. Which is only $5 more than Cascadas basic room off. Rizo master suites lack the fridge and safe you will find at cascadas. most importantly, rizo ground floor for their suites are quiet, very quite, no traffic.[/QUOTE]About a year ago I rented the 2-room Master Suite at Rizo de Oro. I think it is room #59. As I recall, it did have an in-room safe. The safe was hidden in one of the nightstands in the smaller alcove room that has the smaller bed.

[QUOTE=Jicks;1887872]I recently became VIP member, by mistake provided my full name for the card. Later noticed they use very old outdated OS, easy for someone to hack and post information online in future. I want to warn people to avoid providing full personal details for VIP card. BTW, my entire trip was a blast.

My 2 cents.[/QUOTE]I did the same thing and provided my actual e-mail address. Within a few days I was getting blasted with a ton of spam that made it through the spam blocker.

It was my last night in Tijuana and I wanted to go out on a positive note. I walked into Hong Kong early (around 7 pm) and met a woman named Emel. She said she was 30, but had me fooled. She had a rock hard body and opted for the premium package in the bolt on department. She was petite and had an obnoxious Fran Drescher type laugh that I quickly learned to like. I was genuinely having a great time with her and bought her a couple drinks. We were talking for a good hour, and I decided to get a lap dance from her. She had already told me 1200 pesos to go arriba for an hour and that she wasn't in a hurry to get back to work.

Those VIP half off lap dance tickets are great in my opinion because they really allow you to get a preview of what's to come if you decide to go arriba. Also, I found out that for VIP members, those free drink and half off lap dance coupons can be printed out once every 12 hours, not once every 24 hours. I confirmed this with Miriam at the front desk. Got a lap dance from Emel and juiced the mesero 100 pesos to lose track of time which I also did frequently during my trip. The dance was great and she was a wild one, very energetic and intense. The only problem was that during her ferocious riding and general pounding to my torso and groin area, she jarred something loose in my fragile gringo stomach after a week of eating street food. I felt an assplosion coming on and I had to get back to my room at Cascadas ASAP while simultaneously assuring Emel that I would be back to get her "after I went and got some money out of the ATM".

I ran up to the room, expelled the demons that were in my stomach, took a quick 5 minute shower and ran back down to HK. I walked from back to front looking for my Emel and was not able to find her. I'm sure she probably thought I was full of shit (no pun intended) and left with the next taker. So I was sitting at a booth alone and distraught similar to Jim Carey in Dumb and Dumber after he got stood up in the bar. I gave up on Emel and met Ole (pronounced Owl-Lee). She was 23, a little thicker, but a really cute face, and said she had only been working there a month. Had a couple drinks and decided based on our physical interactions and conversation, no lap dance would be necessary.

We agreed on 1700 for an hour and were quickly up in the room. As soon as we were in the room her entire demeanor changed. She demanded money immediately (like as soon as the door shut behind us), OK no problem. Gave her 1700, but she said no we agreed on 1800. This was the first red flag and I should have cut her loose right there and then. She became very demanding about how this was all going to go down. She saw my laptop (closed) and cell phone on the nightstand and kept asking if I was recording her. The entire thing was extremely bizarre and a tremendous boner killer. In my entire time in Tijuana, I hadn't experienced anything like this. She put a condom on me and tried saying it was more money for sucker and all I could do was just laugh (and not pay her an extra dime). The entire session was extremely dull and I couldn't even finish because I was so irritated. Ended up cutting her loose, taking my loss, and paying a visit to one of my preferred SG's of the trip. I probably should have done this as soon as I couldn't find Emel again at Hong Kong.

I really don't like leaving negative reviews about anyone because this is their livelihood, but this was the single worst experience I had down there on my last night of all nights. My question to some of the vets on here is, has anyone encountered an off-experience similar to this and how did you handle it?

Thanks

[QUOTE=JohnnyFive;1888298]
We agreed on 1700 for an hour and were quickly up in the room. As soon as we were in the room her entire demeanor changed. She demanded money immediately (like as soon as the door shut behind us), OK no problem. Gave her 1700, but she said no we agreed on 1800. This was the first red flag and I should have cut her loose right there and then. She became very demanding about how this was all going to go down. She saw my laptop (closed) and cell phone on the nightstand and kept asking if I was recording her. The entire thing was extremely bizarre and a tremendous boner killer. In my entire time in Tijuana, I hadn't experienced anything like this. She put a condom on me and tried saying it was more money for sucker and all I could do was just laugh (and not pay her an extra dime). The entire session was extremely dull and I couldn't even finish because I was so irritated. Ended up cutting her loose, taking my loss, and paying a visit to one of my preferred SG's of the trip. I probably should have done this as soon as I couldn't find Emel again at Hong Kong.

I really don't like leaving negative reviews about anyone because this is their livelihood, but this was the single worst experience I had down there on my last night of all nights. My question to some of the vets on here is, has anyone encountered an off-experience similar to this and how did you handle it?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Everybody has experienced it. I'm surprised you went as long as you did before you hit one.

First red flag is when the demeanor changes in the room.

Second red flag is when they demand money up front.

(At this point, if it's a non-negotiable demand you leave or send her packing. The odds are very small that you'll get a good session after paying up front. The Mexicans say "El mariachi pagado no toca bien" and it's generally true).

Third red flag (as if you needed more) was changing the amount.

Fourth red flag (you should have kicked her to the curb at number 2) was trying to upsell.

Lots of pervs want to record the girls without their knowledge. So, some are suspicious. It's best not to leave expensive items in plain view, just to be safe.

Anyway, the rule of thumb is when she changes the deal you walk. Your big head has to be in charge at ALL times. There are plenty of women in Tijuana. Sometimes you have to be a hard-ass. Other times you can kick her a couple hundred pesos. But you NEVER pay for bad behavior and you NEVER pay up front.

Other than that, you did well for your first trip.

[QUOTE=Phordphan;1888361]Anyway, the rule of thumb is when she changes the deal you walk. Your big head has to be in charge at ALL times. There are plenty of women in Tijuana. Sometimes you have to be a hard-ass. Other times you can kick her a couple hundred pesos. But you NEVER pay for bad behavior and you NEVER pay up front.

Other than that, you did well for your first trip.[/QUOTE]Thank you Phordphan, I suppose I was just in disbelief because every encounter had gone so smoothly prior to this one.

Help, I'm looking at the reports and seeing mongors spending 100 us a day and getting 3 pops. I'm at HK two days and I'm dropping 400 a day easy. Starting at 10 am 15 to 20 drinks all day at 5 bucks a pop water beer no difference maybe 10 fichas as well as some tips for the whip cream girls and then 80 arriba for a hk or otherwise then 30 two times for a sg. Not to mention tips grabbing some ass tits etc. If someone has a secret for a budget stay let me know I'm beginning to think I'm a walking ATM. No wonder I'm getting whatapp messages from the girls.

[QUOTE=Striker2;1888667]Help, I'm looking at the reports and seeing mongors spending 100 us a day and getting 3 pops. I'm at HK two days and I'm dropping 400 a day easy. Starting at 10 am 15 to 20 drinks all day at 5 bucks a pop water beer no difference maybe 10 fichas as well as some tips for the whip cream girls and then 80 arriba for a hk or otherwise then 30 two times for a sg. Not to mention tips grabbing some ass tits etc. If someone has a secret for a budget stay let me know I'm beginning to think I'm a walking ATM. No wonder I'm getting whatapp messages from the girls.[/QUOTE]Let me break down your typical day: $50-$100 for 10-20 personal drinks, and another $100 on fichas. $20 on performer tips and an $80 arriba chew up the third $100. Somehow you squeeze out some value with a pair of $30 street girls. Another $60 or more for a room at Cascades and over $400 is spent per day.

Here's an alternative: Stay out of the HK clip joint. Rent an overnight room at the Leyva for $22 to $27. Then concentrate on the Paraditas standing on Coahuila Avenue in front of La Gloria Bar and both sides of Constitution. Pay in pesos, and you can get some of those chicas in these areas vlose to the Leyva to cita with you in your Leyva cuartos for 300 or 400 pesos ($18 to $24). And if they ask for 500 pesos, say OK but insist on a 40 minutes cita.

[QUOTE=Striker2;1888667]Help, I'm looking at the reports and seeing mongors spending 100 us a day and getting 3 pops. I'm at HK two days and I'm dropping 400 a day easy. Starting at 10 am 15 to 20 drinks all day at 5 bucks a pop water beer no difference maybe 10 fichas as well as some tips for the whip cream girls and then 80 arriba for a hk or otherwise then 30 two times for a sg. Not to mention tips grabbing some ass tits etc. If someone has a secret for a budget stay let me know I'm beginning to think I'm a walking ATM. No wonder I'm getting whatapp messages from the girls.[/QUOTE]Honestly, there is no secret. Just experience of negotiating and knowing when to walk away. I know a few mongers who use coupons, coupons and more coupons to cut costs. Everyone goes through this learning experience, getting all excited and want to do everything with everyone. I too used to dropped $1000 a week in Tijuana, but now when I visit these bars, I do a walk around. Buy a bucket of beer, tip once, sit and see what interests you. Same goes with the fichas, buy a bucket, save yourself $1-1. 5 a beer if paid in pesos, tip once saves you a couple more dollars. Don't sit with anyone that is brought to you by the maseros, they are hunting and you are the prey. Once you find someone you like take her, negotiate, and when you are done, walk out. That's the biggest mistake most will make is to linger. Go in, do your deed and leave, just leave, do something else, go eat, get fresh air. If you think about it, you spend more money not having sex than for sex.

[QUOTE=Striker2;1888667]Help, I'm looking at the reports and seeing mongors spending 100 us a day and getting 3 pops. I'm at HK two days and I'm dropping 400 a day easy. Starting at 10 am 15 to 20 drinks all day at 5 bucks a pop water beer no difference maybe 10 fichas as well as some tips for the whip cream girls and then 80 arriba for a hk or otherwise then 30 two times for a sg. Not to mention tips grabbing some ass tits etc. If someone has a secret for a budget stay let me know I'm beginning to think I'm a walking ATM. No wonder I'm getting whatapp messages from the girls.[/QUOTE]Theirs really no way to avoid spending lots of cash in HK if you plan on taking 4-5 HK girls upstairs and buying drinks for you and chicas. I spend over $500 every time I'm in Tijuana / HK. . It just is what it it. . I usually go upstairs 4-6 times. Always have a room at HK and buy drinks for me and my Favs. . I've just been cutting back on my Tijuana trips to save money instead of going to Tijuana and trying to save money. .

[QUOTE=Striker2;1888667]Help, I'm looking at the reports and seeing mongors spending 100 us a day and getting 3 pops. I'm at HK two days and I'm dropping 400 a day easy. Starting at 10 am 15 to 20 drinks all day at 5 bucks a pop water beer no difference maybe 10 fichas as well as some tips for the whip cream girls and then 80 arriba for a hk or otherwise then 30 two times for a sg. Not to mention tips grabbing some ass tits etc. If someone has a secret for a budget stay let me know I'm beginning to think I'm a walking ATM. No wonder I'm getting whatapp messages from the girls.[/QUOTE]It's the drinks for you and the ficha drinks for the chicas that pushes things out of control. That is pretty much the only spending you could control and still have a good time. Once I did that, I was able to bring it down to about $200-250 per trip. Do your really need to have 20 drinks at the bars? If you're that thirsty, consider the XOXO store. Do you really need to buy 10 fichas to get to know a girl? Drop these habits and you're down to a reasonable $200 a day. Me, I generally have 3 drinks at the bar, 1 is free with the VIP card. I buy 3 fichas max.

If you're getting whatapp messages, then you're spending too much. I don't generally give out my phone number. I know, it's great for your ego. But I don't give it out unless I've actually been with a girl 5 times. Hell, I don't even give out my real name to most of the girls. At $400 a day, look for the waiters to start sending you whatapp messages.

[QUOTE=Jackie888;1888721]It's the drinks for you and the ficha drinks for the chicas that pushes things out of control. That is pretty much the only spending you could control and still have a good time. Once I did that, I was able to bring it down to about $200-250 per trip. Do your really need to have 20 drinks at the bars? If you're that thirsty, consider the XOXO store. Do you really need to buy 10 fichas to get to know a girl? Drop these habits and you're down to a reasonable $200 a day. Me, I generally have 3 drinks at the bar, 1 is free with the VIP card. I buy 3 fichas max.

If you're getting whatapp messages, then you're spending too much. I don't generally give out my phone number. I know, it's great for your ego. But I don't give it out unless I've actually been with a girl 5 times. Hell, I don't even give out my real name to most of the girls. At $400 a day, look for the waiters to start sending you whatapp messages.[/QUOTE]HAHA good points Jackie, theirs only 1 girl I have given my real name to. . and my # to a few just for the fuck of it. . 1 of the girls I text all time. . I always fly solo in Tijuana so its a lot more enjoyable to have a sexy spinner sitting on my lap. But the Fichas is really where I'm wasting my money. I don't mind paying 80 bucks to fuck. But the fichas are killing me.