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Thinking back on some of German LU that I tasted.

Some are German German, meaning they are of originally German origin.

However, big part of German LU I tasted are biologically purely from or half from other nations like half Arab / half German, half Vietnamese / half German or half black / half German or whatever.

So thinking about this, immigration and refugee policy of German government has contributed a lot to such a diverse of LU we find in German FKK. I mean there are no other place in whole world where we can taste such a diverse LU with different type of beautiful women from all over the world at one spot.

I thought about it during watching the news on current so called refugee crisis in Europe, but what Germany just did in future will contribute quite great extent to LU of German FKK. So from monger point of view, it is in our interest for Germany to accept refugees like this.

What a lucky era we live in, we can taste so many different types of beautiful girls at one spot with such a reasonable price.

[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1830255]Right. But open backdoors are unfortunately very rare, I'd say 10-15% max, and not for everyone.[/QUOTE]This may indicate good LU of GT to my taste.

I do love Anal, but I care more for LU quality, so them not doing anal may means, they are more toward Non pro working girl looking LU with younger age with less tattoo and no silicone, it is a good sign.

On the other hand, I wonder why such a remote club with less rates are attracting good LU. I mean far, get paid less. What is the pros for girls to be there.

[QUOTE=MrHo;1830265]This may indicate good LU of GT to my taste.

I do love Anal, but I care more for LU quality, so them not doing anal may means, they are more toward Non pro working girl looking LU with younger age with less tattoo and no silicone, it is a good sign.

On the other hand, I wonder why such a remote club with less rates are attracting good LU. I mean far, get paid less. What is the pros for girls to be there.[/QUOTE]No. Just means pricing of Anal is half of Hessen. Not at a pricepoint for girls to upsell it. CIM however is much more common at GT.

It's a remote club out in the middle of nowhere, but it is also at a good location for business. It's close to the boarders which draws French, Dutch, and Belgian clientel. And of course Japanese from Duss as well.

What it is not, it's not an Artemis or Hessen city clubs where the club is easily accessible. You got to take a got damn 1.5 HR train, and then a taxi, yeah, it's a pain to get to. That doesn't mean it will not attract a lot of business, lots of drivers from the nearby counties visit.

Also, it's one of the early clubs in the area that drove PHG down after it started. I think PHG was the main club (the oldest in the area) in the area until GT came by.

I prefer the LU at GT over Artemis myself. Artemis is too pro like Palace.

[QUOTE=MrHo;1830256]Thinking back on some of German LU that I tasted.

Some are German German, meaning they are of originally German origin.

However, big part of German LU I tasted are biologically purely from or half from other nations like half Arab / half German, half Vietnamese / half German or half black / half German or whatever.

So thinking about this, immigration and refugee policy of German government has contributed a lot to such a diverse of LU we find in German FKK. I mean there are no other place in whole world where we can taste such a diverse LU with different type of beautiful women from all over the world at one spot.

I thought about it during watching the news on current so called refugee crisis in Europe, but what Germany just did in future will contribute quite great extent to LU of German FKK. So from monger point of view, it is in our interest for Germany to accept refugees like this.

What a lucky era we live in, we can taste so many different types of beautiful girls at one spot with such a reasonable price.[/QUOTE]Right, some of the top girls I've been with were either half German or grew up in Germany. I've been with enough Germans to know, like any nationalities, there are all types. Some down-to-earth, some GND, some hot, stunners, some pro-tattoos-silicones, some GFE.

Lots of so called Germans I've met were, Moroccans, Serbians, Bosnians, Turkish grew up in Germany. You'd be surprised how many are actually half Turkish, but don't look it, but claim De. Even some Poles claim German. Lots of the girls that claim German, but from other lineage are like Poles or Russians of parents of grand parents that migrated to Germany. Immigrants. You tend to see those types more in clubs.

Unlike Cane, I haven't been/met with Ukrainians. Very few Czech met/seen/been with. Russians been with mainly at NRW, although there are quite minority of them seen in Hessen. GT, Artemis, and PHG awhile ago mainly. Mostly Poles I've been with, and seems like there are more of them around next to Germans.

Service wise Poles and Hungarians I had the highest odds in percentage of best sessions. Moroccans although very minor has been very high success.

I think mid-eastern girls are spicy lookin, but don't see them much, very rare I run into them.

My two epitome sessions were a Moroccan raised in Germany and a half-German, both around 20, and born in Germany. Met the Moroccan at Sharks. Half-German-African from Mondial.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1830333]No. Just means pricing of Anal is half of Hessen. Not at a pricepoint for girls to upsell it. CIM however is much more common at GT.

It's a remote club out in the middle of nowhere, but it is also at a good location for business. It's close to the boarders which draws French, Dutch, and Belgian clientel. And of course Japanese from Duss as well.

What it is not, it's not an Artemis or Hessen city clubs where the club is easily accessible. You got to take a got damn 1.5 HR train, and then a taxi, yeah, it's a pain to get to. That doesn't mean it will not attract a lot of business, lots of drivers from the nearby counties visit.

Also, it's one of the early clubs in the area that drove PHG down after it started. I think PHG was the main club (the oldest in the area) in the area until GT came by.

I prefer the LU at GT over Artemis myself. Artemis is too pro like Palace.[/QUOTE]Yeah Artemis could be, but with Artemis you can still dig and find, but Palace. Almost no chance, but have hard negotiation LOL The funny thing about Palace is that manager is very strict when it comes to towel wearing of girls. I always see her telling girls to take off towel the moment they come out from dining room, but when it comes to hardcore upsell, she seems to do nothing about it; But I manage myself just fine LOL I wonder what make one club more sharkier than others though and make FKK sharks LU more easier than other clubs as sharks did not seems so strict on girls at all.

GT has to be done, and I will do it at one point via Hessen. I may take train from Frankfurt to dutch town Venlo which seems to be 2.5 hours and station myself at Venlo and do two or three full days at GT. That is the wise ways of doing it. Other than GT, Dusseldorf seems to be not the place for good LU and most FKK is way far out from city center. This is unlike Berlin or Frankfurt.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1830340]Right, some of the top girls I've been with were either half German or grew up in Germany. I've been with enough Germans to know, like any nationalities, there are all types. Some down-to-earth, some GND, some hot, stunners, some pro-tattoos-silicones, some GFE.

Lots of so called Germans I've met were, Moroccans, Serbians, Bosnians, Turkish grew up in Germany. You'd be surprised how many are actually half Turkish, but don't look it, but claim De. Even some Poles claim German. Lots of the girls that claim German, but from other lineage are like Poles or Russians of parents of grand parents that migrated to Germany. Immigrants. You tend to see those types more in clubs.

Unlike Cane, I haven't been/met with Ukrainians. Very few Czech met/seen/been with. Russians been with mainly at NRW, although there are quite minority of them seen in Hessen. GT, Artemis, and PHG awhile ago mainly. Mostly Poles I've been with, and seems like there are more of them around next to Germans.

Service wise Poles and Hungarians I had the highest odds in percentage of best sessions. Moroccans although very minor has been very high success.

I think mid-eastern girls are spicy lookin, but don't see them much, very rare I run into them.

My two epitome sessions were a Moroccan raised in Germany and a half-German, both around 20, and born in Germany. Met the Moroccan at Sharks. Half-German-African from Mondial.[/QUOTE]We may find more Russians in LU soon as their economy is getting sanctioned quite a bit and once there are enough sugar daddies with in Russia, then girls may end up in FKK to make their own money.

However, this refugee thing is plus to LU of FKK and I am looking forward to see many Mixed nationality German girls. There most likely are economical explanation behind this mixed German girls and it also has synergy affect called mixed back ground of Caucasian white and other nationality often produce good looking girls, so I will expect to see more supply of that type of German raised mixed girls in LU of FKK.

What I fear is less and less of pure younger German girls that I used to find in LU at Artemis, now even I find, they are toward late 20's.

[QUOTE=MrHo;1830349]We may find more Russians in LU soon as their economy is getting sanctioned quite a bit and once there are enough sugar daddies with in Russia, then girls may end up in FKK to make their own money.[/QUOTE]Except unlike the Rumanians they cannot travel free and work in Germany. The last thing the Germans are going to do right now is put a generous visa policy in place for Russians and Ukranians.

[QUOTE=MrHo;1830349]However, this refugee thing is plus to LU of FKK and I am looking forward to see many Mixed nationality German girls.[/QUOTE]You seem to be the only man in Germany to have missed the fact that 98% of refugees are geezers. What you might see is hordes of geezers crowding cheap prostitution venues. That's all you're going to get from this refugee crisis: more men between you and the girls. Unless you're gay refugees are bad news for sex.

[QUOTE=MrHo;1830345]The funny thing about Palace is that manager is very strict when it comes to towel wearing of girls. I always see her telling girls to take off towel the moment they come out from dining room, but when it comes to hardcore upsell, she seems to do nothing about it; But I manage myself just fine LOL [/QUOTE]I was at Palace last year and a girl was over pricing extras and when I casually inquired at the desk, they insisted on finding out which girl did it. They offered me a free drink and her a scolding. The funny thing is how she explained it to them was very clever, she said that for all he want he wouldn't enjoy it unless he extends the time and what I quoted was for extras plus the extended time.

Always working the system, she was sharking the manager, go figure.

[QUOTE=FloridaSun;1830674]Always working the system, she was sharking the manager, go figure.[/QUOTE]So the manager just took her story and let the girl off? If so the manager is a chump to believe that crap.

[QUOTE=XXL;1830653] What you might see is hordes of geezers crowding cheap prostitution venues. That's all you're going to get from this refugee crisis: more men between you and the girls. Unless you're gay refugees are bad news for sex.[/QUOTE]These are my thoughts. I figure the refugees can't afford FKK entry fees but they would be walking around FRA RLD or other very cheap venues like Laufhaus or Das Bordello in Koln. That's what I would do with my 5 euro rather than eating.

[QUOTE=Craiova;1799077]Here at ISG some writers (especially S&S) are very proud that they know so many girls at the clubs and they even show her posts to the girls and make no secret about their nick. Sorry but this is total BS, almost all the girls hate the forum writer they call them "Internet Wichser". And most of them don't even like positive posts. To be known by nick in club brings more drawbacks than advantage. And these guys mix up FKK clubs with Disneyland for adult guys, but it isn't especially behind the walls.

The one S even agreed here on ISG he can't write anymore negative (or even true?) because the girls known him. Fine no more words. And the other S even more a dreamer. He's so stupid writing about personal issues about girls like isn't free, gives money a guy and so on. First of all this guy knows nothing about this. And all the girls I know in clubs only laugh about S&S. But this second new S is so stupid that he doesn't know what that mean what he writes. Just in case he would be right what he's writing (not very realistic but maybe. .) and he has right about that this girl is forced for this job and in case (what he probably still do) he still go in room with this girl than maybe in future after a new law will be in force he's doing a crime and he will end in jail because he's easy to identify. One good thing I hope he isn't allow there to write in internet anymore. LOL.

So of course posts in forums help us but every writer should be smart enough that no one can match his nick with a real person.[/QUOTE]So You are like the American and the Japanese, your best pleasure with girls is to speak about others? You said me at World this summer, I should be careful, I confirm You I m not afraid of anything in FKK, not afraid of WGs, not afraid of other men, not afraid of new law not working at the moment. I never spoke about You with any girl, I never spoke with Madi or Raïssa about other men, I m not interested by other men and have better to do with WGs. I go with the prettiest girls in clubs and most of these girls I choose, repeat many times with me. I asked Madi before naming her and she did agree in March 2015 . I showed only to 1 Sharks girl, my posts, she knew my nickname. Being known is not an advantage for me when some showed my posts to Raïssa or spoke about to Madi. But I don t care, I can have girls I want, Raïssa came to ask me to go to room many times, I had appointments with Madi for months and also other WGs after. I can t even manage to meet too many attractive girls at GT, LR, Aca and Sharks. Stay like a ghost, I prefer to keep on behaving in my way, my respect to girls is how I treat them in room and to never give details as they ask me, but I thank Syzy for informations he gives, not so many give informations, many prefer to speak about others.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1830677]So the manager just took her story and let the girl off? If so the manager is a chump to believe that crap.
[/QUOTE]I didn't see what went down after I walked away. I just thought they treated me right in the incident. I am not a fan of Palace, but I would think it is hard to manage girls with that much dysfunction. I think the whole idea of sticking to agreed pricing is a subject that comes up at all clubs. I remember having a dispute at sharks and they sided with the girl. It was a border line case, but she even wanted more than the gray area and I had to just pay up a reduced amount to avoid further conflict. The receptionist just left it for us to resolve.

There's nothing better than avoiding misunderstandings and I have learned my lesson.

[QUOTE=FloridaSun;1830674]I was at Palace last year and a girl was over pricing extras and when I casually inquired at the desk, they insisted on finding out which girl did it. They offered me a free drink and her a scolding. The funny thing is how she explained it to them was very clever, she said that for all he want he wouldn't enjoy it unless he extends the time and what I quoted was for extras plus the extended time.

Always working the system, she was sharking the manager, go figure.[/QUOTE]I am quite OK with upsell as it goes with territory. What I do not like is even you negotiate with girls and you settle the case and then in room, they act against the promises that they settled on. It only happened once and it was in Oase, in this case, I only pay the standard fee and end the session after 30 min after I cum of course within 30 min LOL.

Some girls think they can hustle all the time in FKK, in that case I just have to be more hustler than them, it is best to hustle the hustlers LOL.

However, it is so stupid of them because if she does what she agreed on, then she would get more money out of me as I do not mind extending session up to 2 hours and even with extras, if I can cum twice in 2 hours. I say 2 hours because I cannot stay longer than 2 hours in room. Some post below say Japanese just like to talk to girls. Me no way! I just want to fuck and do all sort of sexual things with them in room and not talk, straight sex LOL I repeat the same girls over and over, so eventually you get to know them a little bit though, which sometimes excite me more, though it probable all BS LOL.

What I have not done in FKK is natural red hair girl, never seen one and also sisters. Someone mentioned about doing twins and I want to do that, but I did not have luck for bumping into one.

Natural red hair also, I never went with one, so I like to keep my eyes on that, though it got to be young beauties red hair and same goes for twins.

FKK enable to fulfill not just my sexual fantasies and desires, but also diversification of different beauty from different part of world. Just red hair left for biological differences and twins for me that I can think of.

[QUOTE=FloridaSun;1830703]I didn't see what went down after I walked away. I just thought they treated me right in the incident. I am not a fan of Palace, but I would think it is hard to manage girls with that much dysfunction. I think the whole idea of sticking to agreed pricing is a subject that comes up at all clubs. I remember having a dispute at sharks and they sided with the girl. It was a border line case, but she even wanted more than the gray area and I had to just pay up a reduced amount to avoid further conflict. The receptionist just left it for us to resolve.

There's nothing better than avoiding misunderstandings and I have learned my lesson.[/QUOTE]I wonder what makes the difference in clubs for this. Like in Sharks, I find it girls are much less sharky and provide service that club promise their clients.

Globe promise that to clients and deliver it by charging more than double the price. Artemis promise that but do not deliver it by charging 10 euro more per 30 min.

Throughout the years, even though I do get tired of it with new girls sometimes, but I began OK with upsell as I just negotiate, but I wonder what makes the difference with this between the club. It is not just strictness of club as in some club it surely is not working.

All in all, even I am tired sometimes as I said, I prefer strong LU with sharkness and I confront and make deal my self than Bad LU with good service. We men are LOL.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;1830684]So You are like the American and the Japanese, your best pleasure with girls is to speak about others?[/QUOTE]I definitely do not fit into the category LOL I am purely in FKK to fuck girls and I do not trust what girls say as it is mostly BS LOL.

I often meet so may "Spanish" girls and "Italian" girls in German FKK who tend to be fluent at Romanians LOL But they apparently are Spanish or Italian. It is matter of belief LOL.

However, I have met some cool guys in FKK, you know some guys just talk to you because you are sharing sofa at main bar or at dining room and it is nice moment to meet some cool guys for moment of chat, you may even see the guy in different FKK club day after by chance (it happen to me in Hessen) and then never see them ever again in life, it is part of good memory from FKK .

Also some girls too, those who I got along with, when they are gone I think about them in main bar, but I do not most of what they told me, it is all part of the game and comes with territory called Brothel LOL.

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Throughout the years, even though I do get tired of it with new girls sometimes, but I began OK with upsell as I just negotiate, but I wonder what makes the difference with this between the club. It is not just strictness of club as in some club it surely is not working.
[/QUOTE]I think the club culture is controlled by competition or lack there of. The greater the competition the less bad behavior you are going to encounter. Forming gangs to eliminate threats is very common and has been reported widely. So when all the girls want kissing to be extra they will intimidate those that offer it and the clients that want it for free. We all know it should be included but they can twist the rules so it can be an added extra.

Management does not really care until it is a problem and business is lost due to the girls behaving badly. All they can do is bringing them in and giving them a lecture but at the end it's a tug of war.

The Clubs who are relying on transient tourists are less likely to care, this would be the example of Palace and Oase, and those that depend on locals, are more likely to enforce the rules like world used to do in its hay days. I also think that it is the case in most of the NRW clubs, although I do not have personal experience as I have not visited them, but I think it is the case based on my RTFF.

At the end if you are comfortable in navigating the system you will for the most part be exempt from falling for the games girls play, though not from hassle of playing the game, unless you find pleasure in that like Mr Ho indicated that does.

My. 02.