Seeking Arrangements

Since others are doing theirs, why not. I'm sure people care about my year right?

The highlights:

Did a girl 3 separate times in Mexico. Longest I ever kept someone. The last time I started to get bored and realized it was the last time. Sad because the first time I thought she was a solid 9. And she is. But familiarity breeds boredom.

Did a girl in OC California. My first black girl. But she was very light skinned like a hotter Rihanna. I kid you not. But then second time she couldn't stay the night so I low balled and never heard from her again. She was 18 and great.

Banged a four foot 6 girl in San Diego. Her breath was bad and she was annoying.

Got taken advantage of by a girl in LA. Scammed me.

Oh actually did a girl in Mexico City for the 3rd time. She is not super hot but she lets me do literally anything and she's a good girl.

Multiple girls in Tijuana. None amazing but so close and so cheap.

Banged a girl in Denver who was a goddamn basket case with daddy issues and wanted to call me daddy.

A crazy year. Some low lights. It ID do it all over again for sure.

Pi reminds me that I did have a couple disappointments and only fair to list those. None were Seeking girls, who uniformly delivered this year (and rare bad experiences in years past).

Bad. Duo at Mystic FKK. They came on strong in the porno room and promised the world. In the room it was tons of restrictions for the most basic stuff. Really bad experience. Managed to get them to work enough to get a shot off but worst experience ever at FKK. Had two other good girls at Mystic.

Bad. Pulled a hottie at Billboard in Bangkok. Got her to the room and she would not BBBJ. She was a real biatch about it and I sent her packing. Unfortunately had paid mamasan ahead. Didn't care about the money but it pissed me off. Went down the street to Kasalong and shot a CIM load with an ugly older lady for $20 or something. Not my finest hour. She was good at her trade tho.

Disappointing. Girl at Casarao in Brazil. AMAZING body. Maybe a 10. But was not doing BBBJ. Got her to do a few licks but that was it and then condom on. Still managed to shoot one she was so hot. Then grabbed a 6. 5 DD girl who promised great BBBJ and she delivered. Over a half hour of BBBJ and then fucking and CIM. A nice recovery.

Disappointing. Cuban duo at Vive Madrid. A bit lazy and tried to call it early. I was having none of their shenanigans and made them work the full time. One of them wasn't so bad. And optics were good all around. Just sharky attitude that kills the mood.

So it's not all roses every day but winning on balance with only 10% in the bad / disappointing column. Not bad.

Midwestern, BlueMoon, DramaFree et al. Do tell. Let's get some more retrospectives in here. I know you are killing it out there!

Year started with a girl I honestly believe to be trophy wife material. Wasn't till it ended did I realize I was in love and the fact she was crying when SHE ended it told me there was something there on her end as well.

Like Steve said previously I like the GFE wining / dining so I'm always looking for a girl up for shows and enough free time to spend at least a long evening if not a whole day or night. Found a girl who was only interested in the deed and 1 or 2 HR short meetings. Despite my criteria her pics were hot as fuck so I figured we'd do the deed until I got bored and move on. Been with her almost as long as my longest seeking relationship, she's since opened up a lot emotionally, and I enjoy the conversations we have now. Still haven't had dinner or anything away from my place but I'm shocked to say it's working for me and I'm content.

Had two losers, one had amazing photos which turned out to be at least 5 years old and was probably the most negative unhappy person I've ever met. Complete waste of my time and the feeling was mutual. Had another girl scam me agreeing to spend the weekend after an amazing first date the night before and some very interesting convo and chemistry. Gave her the money up front because the vibe was so there and mutual and about an hour after climbing into bed (platonically to that point) she gets into a text fight, eye roll, with a friend and wants to be alone. Then doesn't feel well and decides to go home. Honestly I was too pissed to demand the money back but she was a bit of a druggie loser anyway just had that girl next door type I really like so my vision was slightly rose colored.

Only pulled off a couple international trips this year so the results are all local. Keep in mind I'm not sneaking around because I'm divorce and doing whatever whenever at my place is always on the table.

I do owe ya'll a European seeking equivalent experience and I think you won't be disappointed based on the front end work already done. The reality will be a little less exciting, no shows, flakes, etc. All part of this game. Once that all plays out I'll still it all. Happy new year guys, this thread is fun.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2882378]Midwestern, BlueMoon, DramaFree et al. Do tell. Let's get some more retrospectives in here. I know you are killing it out there![/QUOTE]

Hey. I hope everyone is doing good.

I got to say that the first time I heard about the SA movement was around 3 or 4 years ago in this delightful forum.

And after that, I'v been experimenting every time I can in every new city I visit. Mainly in Mexico and USA.

Being an active SA member for around a couple of months every year, allowed me to discover gems and really good experiences with awesome girls and I got to say that time is money is not enough to enjoy all we have in front of us. I really love it, however it's really time consuming when I have the opportunity to try every time.

As you may notice, last year I posted a list of girls in Mexico City that would like to encounter for a short term agreement.

Inside an hotel (if you know what I mean). I also posted prices they may be able to get in exchange of their time. Not the number of personal info, but only the SA member link.

Really Nice! Ha?

I hope that everyone that can share any experience, may have the courtesy to share some general info about girls who would like to meet more gentlemen over here. NOT PERSONAL, but only member link and a reference. Some colleges here doesn't like to share any info at all, only some description about their encounters but not SPECIFIC like allowances, possibilities about the girl and insights (maybe they feel like the lack of exclusivity?, LOL).

I meet with few of them and it was great however, it would be nice to have a little shortcut in order to go directly and realize the real possibilities with girls and of course save time.

Related to other topic: I just found that I love Ugly girls, not exactly with the beauty standard but with a feel of imperfection. It really turns me on.

Got encounters with students, military girl, disabled girl, really fat girl, and so office girls. They sometimes have better time availability and of course: they pamper more that the average.

I hope that everybody have a wonderful new year! And remember: Share more!

Hi everyone!

I am a long time lurker but wanted to share some info about sugar scene in North West UK, and hope it can be helpful to someone!

I currently live and work in Manchester area, and the SA scene here is still affordable and feels very GFEy. If you ever come to UK, ignore London area and move up North. I believe you can have a much nicer experience than sticking to London with its crazy prices.

You can take the late night bus (National Express, Megabus, FlixBus) from London Victoria station for around 35 (return ticket) and in 5 hours you will be in Manchester or Liverpool. You can also take the train (trainpal or trainline are good apps to scout for better prices) from London King's Cross or London Euston for around 80 (return ticket). That will take 2 hours to arrive.

There are numerous universities in this area with fresh first-year students struggling to make ends meet. The costs of living in UK is sky-rocketing, and you can ppm an amazing young British girl for around 150 to 180 in Liverpool, Manchester, Preston, or Blackburn. The thing is, it will not stop there, in even norther cities such as Leeds and York you will find even more fresh students waiting to be lucky and find an arrangement. If you are into quality young white "western"-type girls and have a bit of patience, North of UK is a bargain.

They will usually quote you around 200 per meet, but will honestly not turn down your offer if you are here, serious, and can invite them to a nice dinner tomorrow evening. Before pandemic, you could find SBs for around 130 per meet, but I think 150 is now the minimum.

Beside SA, there are other venues where you can meet British SBs in northern areas. Search for an iPhone / android "language app" (for example hellotalk, but there are many) where you can sign up to learn languages. Many young girls on those apps are "looking for friends" type and open to meetups and dates. Message them, if you feel there is a vibe, move them to WhatsApp / Messenger.

Overall I think it's worth the experience if you are here and looking for young GF type girls. Just don't waste your time and money in London.

Sorry the prices in my previous comments were all in GBP!

[QUOTE=Toni36;2884068]Hi everyone!

I am a long time lurker but wanted to share some info about sugar scene in North West UK, and hope it can be helpful to someone!

I currently live and work in Manchester area, and the SA scene here is still affordable and feels very GFEy. If you ever come to UK, ignore London area and move up North. I believe you can have a much nicer experience than sticking to London with its crazy prices.

You can take the late night bus (National Express, Megabus, FlixBus) from London Victoria station for around 35 (return ticket) and in 5 hours you will be in Manchester or Liverpool. You can also take the train (trainpal or trainline are good apps to scout for better prices) from London King's Cross or London Euston for around 80 (return ticket). That will take 2 hours to arrive.

There are numerous universities in this area with fresh first-year students struggling to make ends meet. The costs of living in UK is sky-rocketing, and you can ppm an amazing young British girl for around 150 to 180 in Liverpool, Manchester, Preston, or Blackburn. The thing is, it will not stop there, in even norther cities such as Leeds and York you will find even more fresh students waiting to be lucky and find an arrangement. If you are into quality young white "western"-type girls and have a bit of patience, North of UK is a bargain.

They will usually quote you around 200 per meet, but will honestly not turn down your offer if you are here, serious, and can invite them to a nice dinner tomorrow evening. Before pandemic, you could find SBs for around 130 per meet, but I think 150 is now the minimum.

Beside SA, there are other venues where you can meet British SBs in northern areas. Search for an iPhone / android "language app" (for example hellotalk, but there are many) where you can sign up to learn languages. Many young girls on those apps are "looking for friends" type and open to meetups and dates. Message them, if you feel there is a vibe, move them to WhatsApp / Messenger.

Overall I think it's worth the experience if you are here and looking for young GF type girls. Just don't waste your time and money in London.[/QUOTE]Thanks. And thanks to the other lurkers now posting. This is valuable stuff. I am often in northern England and never saw anything satisfactory as far as escorts and wondered if SA was a good play. And voila. Now i know. Thanks!

I hear your reasoning. Makes sense from a certain PoV.

Here is a different PoV.

The whole sharing more is ok has a premise that these girls are "tradeable" and / or are in a business looking for more customers.

What if I feel like she is my friend (albeit in a fantasy world where I take break from my real world)? The moment I have a GFE experience, and the girl is non-transactional, I have a certain relation with her which I cherish and keep intact. I can't share my "friends". No?

Likewise, if she is a non-transactional lady, she is not looking for more "customers". So, she may not apprciate me sharing her details. No?

I will definitely not share my top 3 who are creme-de-la-creme. They are my friends with whom I happen to have sex. That equation is not up for trade.

There are these mid-range, on the fringe girls who are really nice to me but I am giving it time to see if they go on to become friends. So, I am on the fence.

Then, there are these golden / platinum pussies who I will never ever meet again and / or want to do anything with them. I don't want to be "transactional" doing tit for tat but I will not be against sharing them like poker chips. But, I don't think that share is going to help anyone in this forum because those are what I call "bad experiences" and I don't want to pass it to you guys.

TL: DR: sharing or not is a personal perspective. I have shared some to some of you who have reached out on I'm. I understand some of them were struggling to break in. I empathize with that because I went through the exact same. Seniors like Steve and Midwestern helped me providing do's and don'ts but we never asked for / gave girls. They taught me to fish rather than give me A fish. To me, that is much worthier than contacts.

[QUOTE=Simplii;2883908]Hey. I hope everyone is doing good.

I got to say that the first time I heard about the SA movement was around 3 or 4 years ago in this delightful forum.

And after that, I'v been experimenting every time I can in every new city I visit. Mainly in Mexico and USA.

Being an active SA member for around a couple of months every year, allowed me to discover gems and really good experiences with awesome girls and I got to say that time is money is not enough to enjoy all we have in front of us. I really love it, however it's really time consuming when I have the opportunity to try every time.

As you may notice, last year I posted a list of girls in Mexico City that would like to encounter for a short term agreement.

Inside an hotel (if you know what I mean). I also posted prices they may be able to get in exchange of their time. Not the number of personal info, but only the SA member link.

Really Nice! Ha?

I hope that everyone that can share any experience, may have the courtesy to share some general info about girls who would like to meet more gentlemen over here. NOT PERSONAL, but only member link and a reference. Some colleges here doesn't like to share any info at all, only some description about their encounters but not SPECIFIC like allowances, possibilities about the girl and insights (maybe they feel like the lack of exclusivity?, LOL).

I meet with few of them and it was great however, it would be nice to have a little shortcut in order to go directly and realize the real possibilities with girls and of course save time.

Related to other topic: I just found that I love Ugly girls, not exactly with the beauty standard but with a feel of imperfection. It really turns me on.

Got encounters with students, military girl, disabled girl, really fat girl, and so office girls. They sometimes have better time availability and of course: they pamper more that the average.

I hope that everybody have a wonderful new year! And remember: Share more![/QUOTE]

I'd never provide details of a girl to anyone for anything. If she's looking she'll find what she wants. She doesn't need or want my help. IMO trading info is really disrespectful unless they ask me to and that conversation has never occurred, ever. The simple fact of the matter is they have tons of options and me handing their info to some anonymous person on the web is beyond sleezy. Kick away soapbox.

[QUOTE=Gfefan;2884305]I hear your reasoning. Makes sense from a certain PoV.

Here is a different PoV.

The whole sharing more is ok has a premise that these girls are "tradeable" and / or are in a business looking for more customers.

What if I feel like she is my friend (albeit in a fantasy world where I take break from my real world)? The moment I have a GFE experience, and the girl is non-transactional, I have a certain relation with her which I cherish and keep intact. I can't share my "friends". No?

Likewise, if she is a non-transactional lady, she is not looking for more "customers". So, she may not apprciate me sharing her details. No?

I will definitely not share my top 3 who are creme-de-la-creme. They are my friends with whom I happen to have sex. That equation is not up for trade.

There are these mid-range, on the fringe girls who are really nice to me but I am giving it time to see if they go on to become friends. So, I am on the fence.

Then, there are these golden / platinum pussies who I will never ever meet again and / or want to do anything with them. I don't want to be "transactional" doing tit for tat but I will not be against sharing them like poker chips. But, I don't think that share is going to help anyone in this forum because those are what I call "bad experiences" and I don't want to pass it to you guys.

TL: DR: sharing or not is a personal perspective. I have shared some to some of you who have reached out on I'm. I understand some of them were struggling to break in. I empathize with that because I went through the exact same. Seniors like Steve and Midwestern helped me providing do's and don'ts but we never asked for / gave girls. They taught me to fish rather than give me A fish. To me, that is much worthier than contacts.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gfefan;2884305]I hear your reasoning. Makes sense from a certain PoV.

Here is a different PoV.

The whole sharing more is ok has a premise that these girls are "tradeable" and / or are in a business looking for more customers.

What if I feel like she is my friend (albeit in a fantasy world where I take break from my real world)? The moment I have a GFE experience, and the girl is non-transactional, I have a certain relation with her which I cherish and keep intact. I can't share my "friends". No?

Likewise, if she is a non-transactional lady, she is not looking for more "customers". So, she may not apprciate me sharing her details. No?

I will definitely not share my top 3 who are creme-de-la-creme. They are my friends with whom I happen to have sex. That equation is not up for trade.

There are these mid-range, on the fringe girls who are really nice to me but I am giving it time to see if they go on to become friends. So, I am on the fence.

Then, there are these golden / platinum pussies who I will never ever meet again and / or want to do anything with them. I don't want to be "transactional" doing tit for tat but I will not be against sharing them like poker chips. But, I don't think that share is going to help anyone in this forum because those are what I call "bad experiences" and I don't want to pass it to you guys.

TL: DR: sharing or not is a personal perspective. I have shared some to some of you who have reached out on I'm. I understand some of them were struggling to break in. I empathize with that because I went through the exact same. Seniors like Steve and Midwestern helped me providing do's and don'ts but we never asked for / gave girls. They taught me to fish rather than give me A fish. To me, that is much worthier than contacts.[/QUOTE]Yeah this is definitely the page I am on. Any girl I really click with on SA becomes a personal relationship. All the doubters will now flame me, but they will be wrong when I say — we actually like each other! Others like GFE Fan and clearly Filthy Beaver after recent post know that it's true. You have a relationship. Yea it's non traditional but it's a form of a relationship and in some ways better than a real girlfriend.

Now Shayla is unusual having been together so long and I am not talking about that level generally. But even Shayla completely understands her role. The other night she was not feeling well. Sort of a headache earache thing. And yet she gave me the most amazing 20 minute BJ prior to some epic sex and CIP. And I know 100% if we had a true GF relationship she woulda said "not tonight honey". But she didn't. She knows the deal. And so this relationship is as I say honestly BETTER than a GF.

Back to sharing contacts which I am not generally fond of for the reasons above. On the one occasion I steered a friend in the right direction to find a favorite girl (did not give her info just some general guidance how to find her.) I wish I hadn't. It kinda hurt knowing he had her the same way as me and pics of them together. Now it's not this way wih pros. Just found out BlueMoon fucked the same hottie as me at Mystic FKK. No big deal. It's different with an SA girl that you connect with tho because it's more than sex.

At least for me.

Probably one of the most useful posts I've seen here in a while. You've just inspired me to head to NW England! Nothing sexier than an English accent. Attached to a 20 yr old college girl that gives my slav fetish a serious run for my money.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2884303]Thanks. And thanks to the other lurkers now posting. This is valuable stuff. I am often in northern England and never saw anything satisfactory as far as escorts and wondered if SA was a good play. And voila. Now i know. Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2884303]Thanks. And thanks to the other lurkers now posting. This is valuable stuff. I am often in northern England and never saw anything satisfactory as far as escorts and wondered if SA was a good play. And voila. Now i know. Thanks![/QUOTE]Hi Steve! Glad this was useful to you and yep definitely try the north west UK. I also had success finding student-type girls with sugardaddymeet (SDM) app. There are both girls that quote you a number and a lot of new girls who will not directly bring up the money subject, although they are sure there will be sex and they will be paid.

Most rich British daddies are concentrated around London, which makes this area really untapped. But as you always mention, it is like a relationship, albeit a sugary one. The more you treat a SB with respect and friendliness, the sweeter the experience will be.

Based on what I'm saying, it's probably not a place I would look at. Let me explain why. But I totally respect that you're having a great experience there.

The way I suss out a city is I go into the seeking app, set my target age range (18-21) , set the number of profiles per page to 60, and then I see how many pages are filled up by people who have visited in the last couple of days. In other words, not old profiles, or inactive ones.

When you do this in London, you get at least a couple of pages. Meaning, there is a high concentration of sugar.

I just tried this for Manchester. Not even a half page. Meaning you've got to go older or less selective to get enough girls actually on the app to find someone. When I've done cities like this, I find that I have to gradually loosen my criteria to get enough responses to have something to work with. It's not super fun that way. For me at least.

[QUOTE=Toni36;2884068]Hi everyone!

I am a long time lurker but wanted to share some info about sugar scene in North West UK, and hope it can be helpful to someone!

I currently live and work in Manchester area, and the SA scene here is still affordable and feels very GFEy. If you ever come to UK, ignore London area and move up North. I believe you can have a much nicer experience than sticking to London with its crazy prices.

You can take the late night bus (National Express, Megabus, FlixBus) from London Victoria station for around 35 (return ticket) and in 5 hours you will be in Manchester or Liverpool. You can also take the train (trainpal or trainline are good apps to scout for better prices) from London King's Cross or London Euston for around 80 (return ticket). That will take 2 hours to arrive..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2884350]Probably one of the most useful posts I've seen here in a while. You've just inspired me to head to NW England! Nothing sexier than an English accent. Attached to a 20 yr old college girl that gives my slav fetish a serious run for my money.[/QUOTE]I am humbled by your nice words. Agreed on the sexiness of a short British girl's accent! There are a lot of pro and semi-pro girls on SA, but if you filter on young girls with no makeup and with amateurish photos, there is still a big selection available.

I mentioned the language apps where you can find POT SBs. There are also other apps where it is possible to hunt for fresh girls. Install a 2nd-hand clothes & fashion app like Depop, Vinted, or Poshmark. Girls sell their old clothes on those apps. Many girls mention "open to decent offers" in their bio. You can't offer these girls straight-up money for sex and need to employ some level of game / rapport. But many of them are very open to an arrangement. I invited a Newcastle girl from one of those apps to dinner to talk about "investing in her business" and it didn't take more than a couple of dates before she wanted to come back to my hotel room. As long as one is not creepy and the communication happens outside the platform on WhatsApp / Messenger / text, there is so much to hunt for.

Also University of Manchester offers (paid) evening courses for general public. Once enrolled, you are entitled to a student card which will open a whole new world to you full of fresh students. You can access university libraries and restaurants / bars. Again some small level of game is required here, but as long as one is not a creep, it's possible to meet young girls.

I think this formula might work from anywhere. Find a desolated town with university presence, and parachute yourself there!