Kyiv

Coming to Kiev in 2 weeks and will be either staying at the Premier Palace or the Hyatt. Are both guest friendly? Any suggestion which may be better?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Chriscooper]Hi stevie69,

Thanks for helping. It's good to reopen this subject since there is too little on this board on streetwalkers in Kiev. It wuld be nice to have some expertise advice from local people. I have experiance in Sevastopol and the best chance is to ask taxi drivers. But always ask for the taxi ride price because they have to drive around and better to set the price before hand then ending up ripped of. My Russian is limited but I can make myself clear and I already know this is enough.

I hope I will get some details and not waist time searching for streetwalkers.

Super[/QUOTE]

2 years ago I saw some in the Kiev’s main street and Mc Donald’s too, was Summer and for sure nice to see the teenies there; however, at that time the prices where in my opinion to high but the girls excellent, therefore not easy to take a decision. If this street is still “where the action is” for SW not sure, any update information? and the current prices with the financial crisis?I have heard near to a hill in Kiev but don’t know where this is & to go there? and how is the action in September when the vacations for the students are over

[QUOTE=Lego Maniac]Coming to Kiev in 2 weeks and will be either staying at the Premier Palace or the Hyatt. Are both guest friendly? Any suggestion which may be better?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

They are both guest friendly, as far as I know, but it's better you bring a girl not dressed as a professional wh0re (they are five stras in any case) a 10/20 USD note will hel a lot!

IT

Chris, those girls standing by the side of the road in Sevastopol aren't looking for a ride to go some place in particular. Also those girls sitting on the benches in the little park across from the hotel aren't getting together for a late night poetry reading.

Lego, the Hyatt is a better hotel. PP has a better location IMHO. Someone mentioned not to bring a girl there dressed like a full blown(ing) *****. Really, in Kyiv how do you tell? No one at either hotel is going to bother you if you have a pro in tow. Also the cafe at the PP has the best pastries I have had in Ukraine - just a little bonus.

AC, just go away.

Hello you sexaholics! I am finally going to be in town from around the 10th. I've been doing some reading and talking to some awesome members/friends, and I'm curious about the following:

1. Apartments: For a 1st timer would the RP area be the best to be in? Also, is it worth getting a russian translator to negotiate on prices? I keep hearing the recession means prices can be dropped.

2. Top places to go- Barsky sounds interesting. Shooters and RP sound very touristy. I really want top notch talent at local prices. Heard massage places are good. I am prob going to avoid top models and Gia and all that they seem overpriced and not a fan of fake pics. Curious if any other recommendations to make the most of a week? Is Odessa/Crimea worth venturing to, or this Sevastropol area or the SWs around Shevcheko?

3. Safety / racism - as an ethnic minority I hear there are lots of issues. Have any ethnic minorities (especially asians) had any trouble out there? As I'll be alone for a portion of the time just want to take all precautions necessary.

Finally drop me a line if any members are around and fancy a drink and meeting some Devushkas...

[QUOTE=Borat69]Hello you sexaholics! I am finally going to be in town from around the 10th. I've been doing some reading and talking to some awesome members/friends, and I'm curious about the following:

1. Apartments: For a 1st timer would the RP area be the best to be in? Also, is it worth getting a russian translator to negotiate on prices? I keep hearing the recession means prices can be dropped.

2. Top places to go- Barsky sounds interesting. Shooters and RP sound very touristy. I really want top notch talent at local prices. Heard massage places are good. I am prob going to avoid top models and Gia and all that they seem overpriced and not a fan of fake pics. Curious if any other recommendations to make the most of a week? Is Odessa/Crimea worth venturing to, or this Sevastropol area or the SWs around Shevcheko?

3. Safety / racism - as an ethnic minority I hear there are lots of issues. Have any ethnic minorities (especially asians) had any trouble out there? As I'll be alone for a portion of the time just want to take all precautions necessary.

Finally drop me a line if any members are around and fancy a drink and meeting some Devushkas...[/QUOTE]Borat,

An awful lot of questions, maybe idea if you read the forum thats what its there for.

[QUOTE=Lego Maniac]Coming to Kiev in 2 weeks and will be either staying at the Premier Palace or the Hyatt. Are both guest friendly? Any suggestion which may be better?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Lego Maniac,

Both them hotels are girlfriendly, are you kiidding? You think anyone gonna question you about who you bring back there for the amount of money you will be paying to stay there, any security ask you about your guest tell them to fuck off, if they see your girls maybe an escort they can try and think your an easy mark for $20. Be sure to visit the bar/restaurant on top floor and take in that great view.

Ok heres the directions for the massage place I found close to Kreshatic that quite a few of you have sent me pms about.

As you come up the escalator and exit metro at Kreshatic, look directly across the main road, the big road, off to the left you will see a street a main street going up a hill, I think its called, pushkinskaya. You walk up the hill maybe 50-75 yards, keep on the right its number 9b, its an archway between to restaurants, go through the archway, into a sort of courtyard, look ahead to the building in front of you, the door at ground level will be open no code required its up one flight of stairs, so its the first floor. Apartment 62 phone number 668243896. Might be idea to call for appointment as it was busy, its 24 hours, student type girls there young tight sexy, 3-4 to choose from, enjoy.

Borat, there are no apartments or residental buildings near RP. However there is a metro stop 100m across the road.

Shooter's isn't very touristy because that is where a lot of long term expats go after they stop going to the tourist spots like Arena.

Safety, I'd be a little concerned about walking around late night/early in the morning due to the large numbers of drunks wander around.

Don't go to the hinterlands like Sevastopol unless you have a guide or a lot of Ukrainian experience.

You won't get top notch talent at local prices unless you speak Russian or are me. :) Besides, top notch talent at local prices mean you are over paying anyway. Take a scouting trip to Decedence and you will see what I mean.

Dice, Borat's questions were on about the same level as the question you ask a few days ago about where to stash one of your GF's. And to be nice, I'll answer it for you. You really don't need to leave town. Keep one girl on the left bank and one on the right.

Hello there friends,

First of all many thanks for the feedback although al little thin. I will try to find out myself and report back to the board. Most likely the taxi drivers will know what the situations is in Kiev concerning SW. I will check the McDonalds (Gidropark (metro stop) area) and on the main street including the hill (Shevcheko Blvd). Since I have not been in Kiev for a long time I will try to find it and I hope I will succeed. As far as Sevastopol the best place and time to begin is around 22:00 and go to the Ushakova Square. On one side you will find a strip club with many beautiful women. Although the prices for a lap dance are high it better to just do some drinking and spend you 1 to 5 grivna's that you have in your wallet and put them in their underwear. After about 1 hour or 2 you need to go to the middle of the square. I think I can say that I am not ugly and still young looking which helped. Within 1 minute of sitting down at the bar in the middle of the square 2 women already came up to me. They asked first $250,. But I told them this was way too expensive and I am not stupid. I got the price down to $100,. For each woman the whole night. This year the grivna is almost double the Euro so I guess that this year I can even get better prices. Although they were not top models (I would say 5.5 to 6) it's still a good deal and no drugs what so ever. After this they took me to a hotel in a taxi.(about 30 grivna) we stopped by a shop for some Vodka and food.

The trick is not to be greedy and do not make hasty decisions. Take a drink first with them and negotiate. Try to find out if they are really interested in you and not just saying because otherwise the sex might be disappointing. Also make clear what for sex you want, Take it easy and let them get hungry instead of you. When you buy an expensive TV or so you also want to know what the features are and what you get for the price. Once you are convinced then buy it. The same works with the SW.

One more tip. Never leave your wallet open or in reach. Also close the door and keep the key but this has been said already many times in this board. I always do and never had any problems.

I hope this will help to guide you around Sevastopol.

If anybody else has information on Kiev SW let me know since my plans have changed and I will leave on Tuesday I. S. O. Tomorrow from Sevastopol to Kiev. (price for a ticket is around $100,. Round trip)

From Dortmund to Kiev with Wizz air a ticket will cost only €75,. Round trip if you book it far in advance.

Chris

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Borat, I second Cruiser's comments and will add a few of my own.

If you don't speak Russian, your chances of top-notch talent will be extremely limited and limiting (except if you are CD!). Be ready for grand disappointment. In fact, don't write off GIA or Top-Models since you may well have to use them as a back-up plan. Of course, there is also RP.

As for safety and racism, the main problem you may have is actually from the police. They do from time to time hassle anyone they see who is non-white. This is mostly a shake-down to get you to pay for not taking you to the local precinct. Also don't carry huge amount of cash late at night. These same cops (or others) will definitely make it worth their while to make sure you leave much lighter.

Odessa and Crimea are not worth the bother unless you are going with someone, preferably female.

Massage places suck and not in the good way. It is very hit or miss and mostly miss for FS or even HJ.

Odd you would want top flight talent and yet ask about SWs. That's about as low on the sex chain as you can go.

The only thing lower and and unfortunately posting from the deepest circle of hell is Acolonizer.

If you want SWs, and I would not recommend it, it is best if you speak Russian and also bring along some retro-viral drugs.

[QUOTE=Acolonizer]I must remind all of you, the perfect blowhard is ME!

I suck bigtime!!

I am the worst of the worst.

Please don't play with me.

Better yet, do not listen to my mindless drivel.[/QUOTE]

Well said. We won't listen to you.

[QUOTE=Uke Boy]Originally Posted by Uke Boy

I must remind all of you, the perfect blowhard is ME!

I suck bigtime!!

I am the worst of the worst.

Please don't play with me.

Better yet, do not listen to my mindless drivel.[/QUOTE]Well said. We won't listen to you.

[QUOTE=Cruiser D]Borat, there are no apartments or residental buildings near RP. However there is a metro stop 100m across the road.

Shooter's isn't very touristy because that is where a lot of long term expats go after they stop going to the tourist spots like Arena.

Safety, I'd be a little concerned about walking around late night/early in the morning due to the large numbers of drunks wander around.

Don't go to the hinterlands like Sevastopol unless you have a guide or a lot of Ukrainian experience.

You won't get top notch talent at local prices unless you speak Russian or are me. :) Besides, top notch talent at local prices mean you are over paying anyway. Take a scouting trip to Decedence and you will see what I mean.

Dice, Borat's questions were on about the same level as the question you ask a few days ago about where to stash one of your GF's. And to be nice, I'll answer it for you. You really don't need to leave town. Keep one girl on the left bank and one on the right.[/QUOTE]

I have been advised by locals not to use the tunnel there in the Metro station in the night, theft criminals etc, Who can give more information?

You can walk, run, dodge across the street. There is a traffic light there. :)

Or you can take a taxi - it's 20-30uah from the center.