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Thanks guys for all the answers. I think I go with the BBBJ.
Is it rude if I spend time with the girl, let her massage me, touching in both sides and after that I don't take her upstairs and she has done it for nothing? Or does that happen there all the time?
Brazil, Rio is my 'things to do' list and it is easy to recognize me, I have spend a lot of time in gym.
Just back from a long awaited return to Artemis last night. I hope my short review will be small compensation for all the information I have read and tried to use from this forum recently.
I arrived at Artemis quite late actually, around 11pm, via the train. The place was quite busy from what I could see, though from speaking to the girls they said it wasn't too good for them. I took some time to walk around and check out the new outdoor area, which is a useful extension even at that time of night as it provides some fresh air even if you run the risk of someone on the train spotting a few sets of crown jewels as they pass by.
I tried my best not to appear like the relative newbie I was so as to avoid some of the sharks. The main bar was quite full, with most couches with a good view of the bar occupied. I found a space and brushed away a couple of girls who came my way. Eventually a girl called Amina (or Adina?) approached me. My guess is she is 5' 7 as she was close to my height when she had her heels on. Her face had a girl next door look, she had long wavy dark hair and natural C-cups. We chatted for a bit and because I didn't hear her name right I thought it might have actually been Nina who I heard so many good things about from other reports, though I doubted she was her I thought she was hot so we started negotiating. She offered everything except anal which I had no problem with. Off we went to the room and I committed to an hour which involved 20 mins of a back massage followed by some light kissing, BBBJ, FS in usual positions and CIM. She was excellent throughout, I would have preferred DFK but wasn't a big deal and she knew all the tricks to make me finish though in fairness she didn't need many! Afterwards we stayed in the room for about 15 minutes just chatting, she said she had recently come to Artemis from another FKK and that although she was German her parents were Iranian hence her darker looks. Recommended.
After Amina, I spent some time grabbing food, sauna and resting up before I looked for further play. This took some time, because by this point the rooms and girls were busy and you had to go and look for the girl you wanted. It didn't help that there was one group of guys and also an American guy who each occupied 3 of the hotter looking girls for a number of hours. I hung around the stairs for a bit and started talking to Nia from Romania. Nia is around 5' 5 with looks like C-cups and shoulder length straight hair. Though I was aware of the bad rep some Romanian girls have, she seemed friendly and so agreed a plain vanilla session, which was really good. She did everything to please me and in the process seemed to please herself also which helps the ego.
I was wiped at this stage so left at around 3.30am.
2 final pointers I learned from last night:
1. Walking the short distance from Westkreuz station late at night can be a little disconcerting at times, especially when you think everyone knows where you are going when you walk out of the station and also that you have quite a bit of cash in your wallet. I've read here that it is quite safe, however it is a really quiet walk to / from the club, so just be prepared for hearing your own breath as you walk.
2. You can go in with the best of plans on who you will session with first and after etc, but when it is busy it is really difficult if nigh on impossible to find a girl you might have heard good reports here but never seen before in the club unless she has a distinctive tattoo, or some other visible feature. Just play it easy and see how the night goes, if a girl approaches you that you get a good vibe from, go for it and if in the process you happen to hear or see someone you had planned on meeting, then all the better.
Greetings guys,
I was durchgeficken at a sexparty earlier that day, but I couldn't miss / resist Artemis and the girls, so I joined Frej of Asgaard in the evening at Artemis, It was a slow evening many favorites was not there, but still plenty of girls to sample.
There were some stripper / dancing girls performing a basic show, nothing that would excite me, they stripped off their lingerie, this was kind of odd, when the other girls in Artemis were all naked and was better looking! LOL
I wanted to swim in the outdoor pool but the weather was too cold that day so I went inside and grab some food instead.
Frej and I went to the downstairs bar to have some quite time to chat. There I eyes Andrea in the bar she noticed me, but I was chatting with Frej so she didn't wanted to disturb us she told me later, good girl.
Then we when up to the main bar via the secret stairway. There we met up with Kimino and Zimmerbaby.
We chatted for a while then Kimino got horny and went hunting, so did Zimmerbaby and Frej and then me.
We found each our girl and when upstairs to "heaven"
I met Debbie, she was sitting in the bar with her German "girlfriends" we fooled all around with jokes and teasing, but I was most interested in Debbie, she could clearly sense it. After some more chat we agreed to get upstairs and have fun.
Debbie DE, beautiful girly type of girl with nice curly hair, slim, nicely made silli-bobs
She is really nice and smiled when I fucked her and she made these girly sounds too. Very turn-on for me, hehe.
You know the drill, BJ, DATY, CG, Miss, Doggie and then bang!
Later I met up with the guys the "usual" suspect again in the main lounge. I toured around the club and chatted with diff. Girls, usually the main stairways is a good meeting and potting point.
Later in the night I choose Andrea.
Andrea RO, this time she was blond, slim, petite, nice real see-cup bobs. She is nice to chat with and have sex with too, I didn't have more shots in me, but somehow she manage to make me cum, what a good girl. Later I hang out in the main bar and lounge, took a nap on the round platform bed with a big smile on.
There some sharky girls asked if it was my first time and pop the "Zimmer baby" question after 30 sek. Of cause they can't fool me, hehe.
I stayed until closing and went back to my hotel. What a great day, first sexparty and then Artemis, the perfect combo of both worlds. I was durchgeficken!
Cheers to Kimino and Zimmerbaby and Frej, see you around.
[QUOTE=Kimino; 1459733]Yep, that should be version 17. LOL.
Kimino[/QUOTE]As a clever man once said; we don't pay for sex, we pay them to leave.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks; 1459723]If you're a tattooed-lady lover, you'd certainly have loved the line-up.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report ShoesAndSocks. I personally appreciate this style of reports, concise, all names present, no bs but just the info.
Kimino
[QUOTE=The Limey; 1458650]This is a big problem with Artemis. If ever a girl chooses to ruin a session, the manager will basically act as defense attorney for the girl. This makes the sharkier ones believe they can get away with whatever they want.
If ever you are in that situation again, the best thing to do is make it very clear you understood what just happened and you are not returning unless you get a refund. However, Artemis basically has a monopoly on the FKK business in Berlin, and that means service can only get worse with time. If you want real choice follow Ilink's path to Frankfurt or Düsseldorf.[/QUOTE]
And the basic problem is that you can never prove your argument (that is what happened in the room) , unless you have a camera with you!
The best thing to do is to just forget it and go on!
It would be funny to go to the front desk and say "the lady's blowjob was not good" or "I paid for cim, but she let it out as I was cumming".
[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1459957]As a clever man once said; we don't pay for sex, we pay them to leave.[/QUOTE]They don't leave we leave them, they stay at Artemis LOL.
Norwegian 90.
Seriously. Don't trust this girl. She's a prostitute. You paid her for sex. Keep the relationship profesional and don't allow her into your home or your personal life. What if she steals from you or attempts to blackmail you? I may be over cautious but why take the risk?
One of the great things about doing a hooker is you don't have to buy her dinner, take her shopping or meet and pretend to like her mom and her friends.
Pay her. Enjoy the sex. Then walk away. Thats safe sex.
S.
[QUOTE=Norwegian90; 1457252]I think you guys misunderstood me a little on this one, I hope its not my english. As I said I know she is not interested in me in that kind of way, and I am not interested in her neither. So no way in hell I am going to have my heart broken. I know she's not going to sleep with me for free. But she's invited as a "friend". And will ofc not charge me for anything except of sex. The main purpose of the visit is actuly not SEX. The thing is, we had a really nice chemestry so I have no problem inviting her as a friend". And I know I would have to pay for it if I want sex, but I know what to expect from her. I don't seee her as a scammer at all. And she has been the best provider I have ever met in a german fkk Club. I doubt I can find any better. Therefore I think is going to be nice to have her her all by "my self". She is "mine" when she's here, and if I want sex Ill have to pay. I know that. The question is how much she would charge me, I know I should just ask her before having her over. So then I can be able to fuck my all time favourite fkk girl without having to travel to Germany. She is really nice to be wth and I would like to meet her in a non proffesional ambience. SHe is coming her for free, and I have not promised her money for sex. That is of course up t o me. If I don't like her price I will never pay her for having sex with her, if she's going to charge me like a highend escort girl. So I am not going to be scammed, thats not the problem.
Basically I just wanted to know if anyone could share some experiences on this topic or give me some advices.
Thanks.
Norwegian90[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sammyt; 1460030]One of the great things about doing a hooker is you don't have to buy her dinner, take her shopping or meet and pretend to like her mom and her friends.
Pay her. Enjoy the sex. Then walk away. Thats safe sex.[/QUOTE]I wish we had Likes on this forum.
Kimino
[QUOTE=Norwegian90; 1457252]I think you guys misunderstood me a little on this one, I hope its not my English. As I said I know she is not interested in me in that kind of way, and I am not interested in her neither. So no way in hell I am going to have my heart broken. I know she's not going to sleep with me for free. But she's invited as a "friend". And will ofc not charge me for anything except of sex. The main purpose of the visit is actually not SEX. The thing is, we had a really nice chemistry so I have no problem inviting her as a "friend". And I know I would have to pay for it if I want sex, but I know what to expect from her. I don't see her as a scammer at all. And she has been the best provider I have ever met in a German fkk Club. I doubt I can find any better. Therefore I think is going to be nice to have her her all by "m self". She is "mine" when she's here, and if I want sex I'll have to pay. I know that. The question is how much she would charge me, I know I should just ask her before having her over. So then I can be able to fuck my all time favorite fkk girl without having to travel to Germany. She is really nice to be with and I would like to meet her in a non professional ambiance. She is coming her for free, and I have not promised her money for sex. That is of course up to me. If I don't like her price I will never pay her for having sex with her, if she's going to charge me like a high end escort girl. So I am not going to be scammed, that's not the problem.
Basically I just wanted to know if anyone could share some experiences on this topic or give me some advices.
Thanks.
Norwegian90[/QUOTE]So she will visit you (at her own expense) , stay at your place for free, not have sex (unless paid) and generally treat you like her personal tourist guide? It just doesn't add up, either (small) miracles still happen or it is indeed some kind of scam. I like these things more if there are less "uncertainties", so indeed have a clear agreement on how much she will charge you for sex. Remember this saying from the Asian forums: "We do not pay these girls to come to our room, we pay them to leave in the morning".
[QUOTE=Sammyt; 1460030]Norwegian 90.
Seriously. Don't trust this girl. She's a prostitute. You paid her for sex. Keep the relationship professional and don't allow her into your home or your personal life. What if she steals from you or attempts to blackmail you?
S.[/QUOTE]And why would one of these girls do that? Well, as one of them explained to me quite simply, because they can! Most of these girls have nothing to lose in comparison to the monger, who may have everything to lose. That said, it can work but you had better be a good judge of character and make sure you have a solid understanding. In the past, I invited one of my favorite tutes and her sister into my home. The beautiful tute was willing to fuck me for free behind closed doors while her sister slept in the next bedroom over. It can work, but keep your feet on the ground and a level head about it. And know who you're dealing with. I had known this girl for almost four years before I let her and her little sister stay with me at my pad.
I've dated a few "hookers". The thing is that they are all normal girls too. But some are actors and just lie while others are more true. It is up to you to sniff out what you think about a certain girl though, but my own experience is that the true girls (hookers) don't ask me for money. Happened 3 times to me, although all 3 were in Asia. The culture there is a bit different I guess though. I haven't dated a European (hooker) so far, so I'm not sure myself.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1460042]So she will visit you (at her own expense) , stay at your place for free, not have sex (unless paid) and generally treat you like her personal tourist guide? It just doesn't add up, either (small) miracles still happen or it is indeed some kind of scam. I like these things more if there are less "uncertainties", so indeed have a clear agreement on how much she will charge you for sex. Remember this saying from the Asian forums: "We do not pay these girls to come to our room, we pay them to leave in the morning".[/QUOTE]I don't agree. Norwegian should talk frankly with the girl to make sure everything is clear beforehand. Not all FKK girls are bad scammers.
I have had FKK girls stay overnight at my place with no sex included in the deal. If I was horny, I could offer to pay for sex and no obligation on girls part to provide it. It was clear she was staying as a "friend" and it suited her as she wanted to be in that location and I was providing free accommodation and a bed she could sleep in.
I am still good friends with an ex FKK girl even though we have no sex anymore and have met up in other countries.
Okay you guys are highly suspicious but its not an impossible thing at all.
Norwegian should be concerned about whether the girl is running away from someone in Germany, and that Norway is a good hiding place. This is a possible ulterior motive that maybe has not been considered. Would not be the first time. Will the girl be keen to go home or not?
Could be there is nothing suspicious at all, too.
[QUOTE=Sammyt; 1460030]Norwegian 90.
Seriously. Don't trust this girl. She's a prostitute. You paid her for sex. Keep the relationship profesional and don't allow her into your home or your personal life. What if she steals from you or attempts to blackmail you? I may be over cautious but why take the risk?
One of the great things about doing a hooker is you don't have to buy her dinner, take her shopping or meet and pretend to like her mom and her friends.
Pay her. Enjoy the sex. Then walk away. Thats safe sex.
S.[/QUOTE]No one will blackmail me. I am the boss. If I don't like her price quoted for sex I will not pay her for sex. I have not promised her money for sex. I am not going to get blackmailed by a fkk girl. Actually I am the one with power" I have experience negotiate with professional girls. So although I most probably want be able to fuck her for free" I belive I have the power and skills to negotiate a fair price for sex.
Norwegian99
[QUOTE=Sammyt; 1460030]Norwegian 90.
Seriously. Don't trust this girl. She's a prostitute. You paid her for sex. Keep the relationship profesional and don't allow her into your home or your personal life. What if she steals from you or attempts to blackmail you? I may be over cautious but why take the risk?
S. [/QUOTe.
The reason I have that much power" is that if her atitude changes, I have the right to kick her out and shell have to find herself a hotel etc etc. And pay for her own food. I don't think she wants that. And I have several escort girls that I can contact for really good prices if she happens to charge me high end prices. That means I can offer her a prixe abd if I find it way to expensive I can tell her that I can get cheaper sex from my escort friends for example. I am the one in charge here. Do you guys feel me?
Norwegian90