Appreciate this discussion
There is chemistry & game involved. I don't know how else to put it. You take a shot in the dark, you have a chat, and if that chat grows into something more interesting you've sunk the hook. It's a complete mystery and wonder of life. I've had the chemistry with girls that don't speak a word of English (and I don't speak their language either, thank you google) and I've had it with girls that I wouldn't, in my wildest dreams, would have thought they'd ever be interested; money involved or not. If they're interested they'll come to you and let you know it.
Frankly the ones that casually log on and don't check their messages daily are the ones I'm after so it also takes patience. Now that I think about it, that's probably why this site works for many of us. We've traded youth and impatience for experience, money and patience. Not sure it's an even trade but it's not like we had much of a choice either.
[QUOTE=Jbob084;2884772]Also based in a Northern Uni town, and whilst on paper and in theory, the situation you describe should exist, and it should be a land of milk and honey, that has not been my experience, for me at least.
Most active profiles I see here are older pro types and single "council estate" mums. The girl next door, student types seem to not log on very often, and almost always have delusional expectations of 'online' relationships and sending nudes for cash. I have had plenty of successful experiences on Seeking in other countries, but that has been my experience in trying with the student types in northern towns. I do think it's also down to a more puritanical view of sex for money in the UK, as compared to Latinas or Eastern Europeans.
The other methods you describe sound quite interesting, however I do feel like in a society like the UK, things can go a bit awry and one can be exposed as a very creepy type at the least, and much worse, as compared to Seeking where it's a proper platform for such and girls on there know what they're signing up for in a sense.
Just my thoughts, but curious to hear some discussion and feedback on this.
With the few experiences that I have had though, British SB's in the northern towns seem way too casual about barebacking, condom usage doesn't seem to exist, which puts me off a bit and makes me suss the girl out more before proceeding.[/QUOTE]
I wrote this on the Bogota thread but it really belongs here
Someone linked a blog entry in the Bogota forum about a guy playing the role of Captain savaho, [URL]https://inlovelyblue.com/dating-a-venezuelan-prostitute-from-santa-fe-bogota/[/URL].
I mentioned that the woman was certain to be a lousy long term partner being an escort and being Venezuelan where anyone who thought long term in that country got burned.
In the blog post, there was this, The Uber arrived at her 'home' and she typed a message on my phones translator before quickly trying to get it back and delete the message, so I couldn't read it. It was asking for money because she hadn't worked that day and she sends her earnings home to Venezuela, for her family. It was pocket change to me and I chased her as she leapt out of the Uber to gladly give it to her.
I also made the comment that this woman was not looking at this guy as an ATM, and he made a big mistake volunteering to be one. I thought his chance of success was poor. Johnniecash had this response.
[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2884781]but I know some that do think long term, even the street hookers, eg they are regularly exchanging up money to usd and saving that up to buy a house in Venezuela, or another that has a child and invests in his education, taking him up to various extra classes etc. Some, as they approach their 30's and see reduced income enroll in classes then, to try be veterinarians, nurses etc.[/QUOTE]Johnnie, it sounds like you have heard hookers talking long term, but some of the stuff you mention like classes or buying a house, you did not personally see right? I had been in the sugar game a long time, and in the forums everywhere, you will see guys say that turning a stripper / hooker into a long term sugar baby let alone a GF is a losing proposition. Getting them gifts, like this guy did, will not be appreciated unlike with real sugar babies or a GF.
The one successful hooker I knew personally who got out of the biz and ran her own business really was not independent. She had a sugar daddy on the side.
Thing is when I mentioned looking for long term, I was actually thinking this gal was a bad long term partner more because she was Venezuelan than a hooker. The hooker part for me was a given, but your post made me want to look more into the why hookers are bad long term partners.
There was a fascinating video on youtube of a guy who ran a brothel: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9kQuy90OGM[/URL].
I found the guy to be honest, logical, and a straight shooter. He only hired woman new to the business and only kept them in the business for a year. In his book, he described successful hookers who were millionaires but were so addicted to money they could not leave the business even in their 50's.
Then there was this from a woman who really was a hooker. Granted, she had an agenda. [URL]https://psyche.co/ideas/the-reality-of-prostitution-is-not-complex-it-is-simple[/URL].
Prostitution is not sex and it's not work. Its reality is far from complex in fact, it's simple. Trust me, I've done it. The truth is, there was no 'work' involved in what was done to us in prostitution. Prostitution is neither sex nor work.
During my last 10 years campaigning, I have sometimes been asked by women what prostitution 'feels like'. I hit on a way of explaining this some years ago, and have repeated it a few times since. I invite them, the next time they are in a caf or a bar, to take a look around at the male patrons. Old, young, fat, thin, tall, short, handsome, ugly, beautiful, repulsive and imagine that they are obliged to have sex with them. All of them. The women's faces turn to horror because they don't need to imagine; they know full well that they'd have no interest in sleeping with whoever happens to walk through the door. At the most basic level, having our personal space breached by a stranger causes a stress reaction. Sex does not just involve mutuality; it necessitates it. The sex of prostitution is devoid of mutuality, and cash is introduced to fill the breach.
The brothel operator said the same thing: And one year is the time limit where it is not enough time to damage you psychologically for good, you can still reverse the damage, however, you run the risk of irreversible psychological damage if you stayed in this business longer than one year. Making big money is addicting, you do not want to fall into the trap of getting used to making this type of money.
I had never thought of a hooker as damaged goods. That sounds a little judgmental to me, but I found it interesting that both of these two people mentioned it.
I wish I could I say that I went the sugar route because I was concerned for the damage being done to women. There were two main drivers for me. The first and morally worse reason was the sex was better. The other was the feeling of emptiness after paying the hooker and having her leave. Even the rare times when you had this passionate intimate experience, it was like the women put back up this wall and said this was all about the money. I did not feel that emptiness with a sugar baby. With sugar babies, the women were in no hurry to leave, and I did not want them to go.
People make fun of sugaring versus seeing a hooker. They say it is the same thing, sex for money, but I knew it was different. That mutuality the former hooker talks about is intact in a sugar relationship whereas it is not with hookers. I read in a different book that women who are mistresses of married men look for the same qualities in the married man that they do in a partner. So while there is sex for money, like sugaring, it is not all sex for money, and that prevents or more likely lessens the damage.
Anyway, Johnnie, thanks for the post. It made me think, and I wanted clarity on this subject.
Best spots in Asia for Seeking?
Where are the best spots in Asia for seeking? I am going to leave soon for a 2 month trip. I plan on backpacking around and I want to bang as many girls as possible. I am planning on going to your typical Bangkok and Pattaya but I am wondering if there are good cities in Asia for seeking similar to Medellin and CDMX. Or maybe its just bar girls / tinder? I am not sure.
Been curious about this as well
With a massive currency deval recently seems like it'd be an excellent place for a monger of any kind.
[QUOTE=ILolatu69;2885446]Has anybody used SA in Argentina?[/QUOTE]
