Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=GooberMonger; 1469727]Girl company is included, but a tip is always polite at the end of the evening or when your time is up. A lot of KTVs have deals where you buy a case of beer and the room and girls are free for a few hours.

If you see a girl you like you can take her usually for $30 for a short time, I have paid $50 but the girl was a 9/10 and only ever been with one customer before. She sold her virginity for $300 to a Japanese man, so she was still like a virgin. Not a lot of fun because of her lack of experience and had to be gentle with her. Good girl to become a regular with though.

Anyway if I remember correct the bill was $70 for 3 hours, but we had a case of ABC and 6 Angkors, plus lady drinks and food. That's on the high side for most KTVs but the girls were all nice and it was a higher class club.

Anyway whose talking about P for free, it happens but is very rare even if you look like Brad Pitt the girls don't care. 99. 99% are far more interested in the size of your wallet. You may think your getting it for free but you'll be paying one way or another.

Play safe,

GM[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. An update on what happened so first.

First night I go out with the 32 why old. We had a good time. She gome home when we get back. Staying in a boutique hotel which is girl friendly. A reception guy proposed we go together to a lady bar and help me get 1 back. He say he is responsible I am happy custome; my guess it is low season and they would like me to extend as I pay 60$ for the room. With booking. Com its 120$. But as it is more like a big appartement I still find it a good deal. Or he needs a reason to go to. Don't know. 2nd night she pay the khmer style food. I the expensive restaurant. Later in the day I go to the birthday of a friend of her and we go clubbing. Her best friend insist to pay everything. When we drive back it is late and she stay with me. Quite gentle action. Tried it 2 times. 2nd time bit more intense. The plastic and the fact I'm used to much younger made me after 3 hours still not come. She propose we go to clinic for health check so we can do it without the plastic / rubber. Good GFE but no finish so doesn't work. Now she propose she help me to get younger. Don't think she really means it. She still wants to hangout and at the phone she says she's horny and wants more.

Brings me to the inhouse massage. First 9/10 and supercute but not a word english. She seemed to mention she was shy but couldn't keep her eyes of me. Nothing. 2nd massage with oil this time; english; from siem reab; typical good looking bla bla and aks if I have girlfriend. At start we say 1 hour or maybe longer. When finished lay down a bit; I say longer is ok; she says something about small and not big and that she hungry. 2 good massages but nothing. If there is a magical khmer word do let me know!

So on almost 2 days I haven't gotten that far. Great food, excellent massages and good company though. Will take your guys adresses and remarks and do it that way. Bar time when the rain stops.

[QUOTE=PussyFeelsGood; 1470124]Ok,

But saying they love it as much as girls in any other country is complete BS.

The percentage of girls that like sex, want sex, and need sex is far less than other Asian countries I have been to.

Walk down the street in Cambodia and 99% of the attention you get from women will come from taxi girls who will tell you no in the bedroom to just about anything you want to do and just lay there while you do them missionary.

Walk down the street in the Philippines and you will get smiles from 25% of the girls you pass whether they are working girls or not, and when you get them into bed they are active participants not just waiting for your time to be up.

If Calipro is wanting to get girls for free then he should just stick to PI, the old dudes on the PI board keep telling him its not possible there either but thats bollocks any young white guy can find a girl to come home with him there at any time with little effort...[/QUOTE]I agree percentage wise Cambodian girls aren't as horny, but it's because they know nothing about sex and 99% of them have never had an orgasm too and most of them are virgins that aren't taxi girls, but don't count them out they love Caucasian men old and young. I have had several Khmer GFs and they were virgins or never had an orgasm before, but after they have that first big "O" they turn into LBFMs.

I also have no problems picking them up, from Bank Tellers to University students, garment factory works etc. I get good eye contact and big smiles from at least 75% of them.

If I'm out in Cambodia and want just a shag though, you are correct I look for a VN, Chinese or Korean before a Khmer girl and Thai girls have lost that loving feeling it's gone gone gone. Ten years ago Thai girls were number one by far, but today there just ain't no GFE there. Then the Filipinos well by 19 they have the experience of a 30 year old, got to love those Catholic Girls, you know how they go, everyday and all the way. Difficult to find one under 25 that doesn't have a kid, just my personal experience.

It maybe because I live in Cambodia and speak the language that gives me a bigger selection, I don't know, but have had some wild GFs here and still do today.

Cheers,

GM

[QUOTE=Kniom;1470035]But, I remember one girl (years ago. 2005 I guess) who I dated for several years on a "regular" basis. Fixed price. Never had problems. She even called my "Srolang" (Khmer for boyfriend, haha).[/QUOTE]You dated her for years but didn't even learn the meaning of the word she said to you over all that time?

The word you wrote means love. Boyfriend is "song sa pro". I learned those on my 3 weeks in country. But what do I know? I'm obviously an idiot as the legendary "pussyfeelsgood" can tell you.

As the kid has found out, it's absolutely possible to get sex 100% for free, in Cambodia as anywhere else. In fact it's actually a little easier than it is in some other places because the idea of romance is still alive and well.

Note that this doesn't apply if you're fat, old, stinky, alcoholic and incapable of picking up women in your home country. It also doesn't apply to most professional working girls (which are the only women 99% of tourists and expats ever talk to) , though I know for an absolute fact that some of them can be had in off hours free of charge too if they like they guy in question.

[QUOTE=Medanboy; 1470455]Thanks for the reply. An update on what happened so first.

First night I go out with the 32 why old. We had a good time. She gome home when we get back. Staying in a boutique hotel which is girl friendly. A reception guy proposed we go together to a lady bar and help me get 1 back. He say he is responsible I am happy custome; my guess it is low season and they would like me to extend as I pay 60$ for the room. With booking. Com its 120$. But as it is more like a big appartement I still find it a good deal. Or he needs a reason to go to. Don't know. 2nd night she pay the khmer style food. I the expensive restaurant. Later in the day I go to the birthday of a friend of her and we go clubbing. Her best friend insist to pay everything. When we drive back it is late and she stay with me. Quite gentle action. Tried it 2 times. 2nd time bit more intense. The plastic and the fact I'm used to much younger made me after 3 hours still not come. She propose we go to clinic for health check so we can do it without the plastic / rubber. Good GFE but no finish so doesn't work. Now she propose she help me to get younger. Don't think she really means it. She still wants to hangout and at the phone she says she's horny and wants more.

Brings me to the inhouse massage. First 9/10 and supercute but not a word english. She seemed to mention she was shy but couldn't keep her eyes of me. Nothing. 2nd massage with oil this time; english; from siem reab; typical good looking bla bla and aks if I have girlfriend. At start we say 1 hour or maybe longer. When finished lay down a bit; I say longer is ok; she says something about small and not big and that she hungry. 2 good massages but nothing. If there is a magical khmer word do let me know!

So on almost 2 days I haven't gotten that far. Great food, excellent massages and good company though. Will take your guys adresses and remarks and do it that way. Bar time when the rain stops.[/QUOTE]Ok don't take this the wrong way but you missed a couple of obvious ques to me for action here. The first was saying your are hadsome man and this may mean she is open to an invitation to go out later or more depending on the language barrier otherwise you will end up going slow.

The second on small not big and I am hungry Is the line for you to say ok you eat my dick and it will get bigger. Knyum kadoar, Kadoar tom. There was definitely some action on the table here the girls don't want to create embarrassing situations with clients that are not inot that sort of stuff. So you do have to listen and look for any clues that more action will be available.

I was in on massage place which was a total nude type job and too some this may sound wiered but with a mate in the same room he was also with a girl getting massaged. Anyway the girls were complaining in Khmer that they had no money for their phones so we politely pointer out we would be happy to pay for extra services. That occasion it didn't work. But on other later occasions no problem BJ was on the offering.

[QUOTE=Shadow6491; 1470672]Ok don't take this the wrong way but you missed a couple of obvious ques to me for action here. The first was saying your are hadsome man and this may mean she is open to an invitation to go out later or more depending on the language barrier otherwise you will end up going slow.

The second on small not big and I am hungry Is the line for you to say ok you eat my dick and it will get bigger. Knyum kadoar, Kadoar tom. There was definitely some action on the table here the girls don't want to create embarrassing situations with clients that are not inot that sort of stuff. So you do have to listen and look for any clues that more action will be available.

I was in on massage place which was a total nude type job and too some this may sound wiered but with a mate in the same room he was also with a girl getting massaged. Anyway the girls were complaining in Khmer that they had no money for their phones so we politely pointer out we would be happy to pay for extra services. That occasion it didn't work. But on other later occasions no problem BJ was on the offering.[/QUOTE]Oke. Thanks for the input. Perhaps I should show more clear to what I would want. But don't want to be inpolite. In indonesia usually the lady asks abd I can speak the language so more easy. Cambodian khmer language I learn everyday 1 word. Hope I ll get there eventually. Appreciate the remarks.

So to kick off the adventures as I hadn't come in 3 days I decided to go to hotel paris as it seemed a friendly my kind of style place (massage with FS after). Thanks to all of your posts I found it pretty easily with my rented motorbike. It is indeed quite far from central market. About 1 km as posted as in one of the overview links. Straight west. I asked the way 1 block to early. A guy signed ne the way. When I arrived I stayed on my bike and one guy with a green hotel paris tshirt came to me. I showed I wanted to go up 2 floors. He blocked the way to parking and kept saying a khmer word which I now understand to be another hotel. He went inside and by the time another helpfull Cambodian guy came to me he came back with a small card: which was an adress card of hotel paris with another hotel indicated on the backside road map.

Hotel Mean Haur located at the corner of 122 and 221. Which is the 2nd street rigth if you just continue straight west from paris. At paris they indicated the massage was over there and he seemed to make clear no action could be found in paris. I went at 15:30 in the afternoon. Perhaps it was to early or they have closed their activities. I noticed a lot of bikes. Perhaps it was full or they changed to normal hotel style. I don't know.

So at Mean Haur I could park in the back after I asked massage and showed it on my arm. The same whay the green shirt guy had done to me. I asked the parking guy left or right as the building is quite big. I went to the lobby. 2 ladys said 1st floor without lookibg at me. When I get up thecstairs I see a big room on the left with perhaps 30 girls. Many of them curuously peaking at me. The little desk on the left doesn't look up but she says and points. Ladys in room go choose. Alright finally.

I do a fast glimpse and gives them a smile. Most of them seem quite young. Around 20- 26. Nr 4 on the first row was quite smart by smiling from the start and lookingvat me. I was thibking of going for a shy one as I wanted local. The seened to have different colours if numbers and clothes but no idea what it meant. As it was already a few days ago I decuded to play on nr4. Who happily stood up and came with me. She got a ticket and a key. We wenr 2 floors uo to a room. We go in but I noticed thecroom had a transparant window in the door. When I locked it she saw you looked confused. As she could speak a little work related english she looked at me and asjed " you want sek?" After 3 times I realised she asked FS. I said yes please." K We go other room. Room is 6$. That ok. I said 1 time pay room." no 2 times". As the bill went up I asked how much she would like for FS. She saud 50. I said 20 and if good tip. We go up to the highest floor 12. It took her a while to get a new key. U wasnt sure if it was a mandatory fine or just a misunderstanding in intentions so after the 20$ sushi (never ate so much. Love the food in pp) from this afternoon I didn't mind to mmuch. We go up. In elevator she already hits my snall braibs with her nicely formed ass and she seemed happy it worked. We go in roon. She kisses me and we go shower. I get a 25 min gentle and good BJ. Then she asked condom? I start on top. She gets more and mire wet when I rouch her nice nipples. When I touch her ears she moans and want to go on top. Fine by me or I would v come soon. A lot of kissing and afwr 50 mins all is done and she cuttles in my neck and pu her warm body against me and she seems to want to let me sleep a bit. After 5 mins of relaxing in hugging sleeping position we kiss and she looks at me and sits up she notice I'm not ready fore more so she goes toilet. I go in and go shower. Some kiaaes again and we go out.

Everythung from the start in a non pressure we have all the tine kind if way. I pay the 2 rooms as earlier agreed. And give her 20 + 10 as she was a good looker. Very GFE. Alright probably to much including the 2nd room. Perhaps she keeps that although earlier she piinted iyt that ut was me who needed to getbit. She went.

So 6 +6 +20+10= 42. I guess you could do 26. Dunno. Also bo massage as we changed room; didn't realky want or ask for it. Rooms were oke. Got her numbwr and wgen I ask for outhouse service. No problem. Also lt. Would give her a 8/10 for the looks or a big 7 abd another 8 for the GFE. So all inall happy. Only 2nd room stuff was weird. I'm not sure if I picked Cambodian or perhaps vietnam. She was no so dark. She said Cambodia. Television whas kmer music. Didn't matter to me.

Going movie and ll check out matini or naga after

Just a small update for fellow newbies like me.

As I had to many whisky's yesterday I opted for an inhouse massage. I enjoy the company and you never know. Took 2 hours. For this one it seemed oke I threw the towel away after a while as it made her massage more easily. In the end I pleased her more then she me. She obly charged one hour. Khmer girls not seem that easy as indo ones. I learned the word for can not but as usual it means go ahead till a certain point.

At 7pm to martini's I arrived the same time as the first girl. Bought her a drink and tipped the cashier. Put myself at the pooltable between the bar and the ladysroom. Going early has it advantages. After one game a short talk and said her she was not my type (should really look up that word in khmer). She was happy with the drink and smiled all evening politely to me. Did the same for a duo. Said them after a while I only like them a little. The candidates kept coming. Seems to be low season and I seem to have the advantage I'm quite young (no offense) and decent looking. Other brrang were left alone, some even when they offered a drink. Seems the girls can be quite picky. Good for me. Pooltable whole evening for me and good company. All in all costed me 15$ for 3 hours fun. Some rubbing and teasing. After 20:30 the girls asked directly: where you live and lets go. They seem to operate in groups. 15 candidates. Never asking for a drink themselve. No pressure. I like the place. I wanted to go for a 10 or9. None there. I spend some more time with the duo. Let it pass although now I could settle for less. Ll check it out tomorrow again.

Went 1 hour to dalin dalin. Tuk tuk on standby for an hour. I like the ladies there more. More style and recognized a lot of faces from the day before. But they don't seem to come to you if you take a table. I'm not a dancer by myself. Seems other guys make the contact like that or they come in with them already. Could have made contact with a nice 3th weel friend at the table next to me but I was just going.

Tomorrow action day.

Not much info I give but fellow newbies can get an idea of what to expect.

Any of the usuals can give me some advice for dalin dalin?

Hello mongers,

Heading to PP soon. I have RTFF (well some of it. I'm on a 512kb internet connection and there are only so many hours in the day). Which is the best place to go for girls aged 18. 20? And ideally who do anal? I don't mind if it is a brothel or a hostess bar, or a place to pick up freelancers. Is there a specialist anal bar anywhere? And can any residents help with language? I know yum yum and boom boom or whatever it is but how about more specific phrases like 'Can I lick your pussy (yeah I know other guys have been there don't care) ' 'Can I finger you' 'Can I kiss you' and the most important of all 'Will you suck my dick without a condom', 'Can I fuck you in all positions, ' and 'can I fuck your ass. ' I hate it it when I get a chick who sucks your dick with a condom on for thirty seconds then lies on her back, squealing 'finished? ' every minute and won't take it in any other position. I will of course be a gent in the run up to such conversations. I have read some very good advice from Lancelot's awesome posts about maybe buying a few drinks for a few different girls, be charming etc. And I'm a reasonably young tall athletic guy with full head of hair which helps I guess. But after such flirting I want to be sure I'm not taking back a boring fuck and I'll pay a bit more for the right fuck! Oh, and how much is a reasonable amount to pay for such a good fuck, anal included? Any help much appreciated and I'll let you guys know the score when I return. Can't wait yum yum boom boom

[quote]Any of the usuals can give me some advice for dalin dalin?[/quote]Working girls are often found standing at the bar. If you stand there as a single male you should be approached. May want to politely approach them if that doesn't happen, but be aware, plenty of "regular" girls go there. I wouldn't bother with girls at a table unless they are all girls. Girls sitting with guys already would be obviously off limits.

Expect to pay a premium over what you'd find almost anywhere else in the city.

You can also find girls inside the casino proper.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock; 1471542]Working girls are often found standing at the bar. If you stand there as a single male you should be approached. May want to politely approach them if that doesn't happen, but be aware, plenty of "regular" girls go there. I wouldn't bother with girls at a table unless they are all girls. Girls sitting with guys already would be obviously off limits.

Expect to pay a premium over what you'd find almost anywhere else in the city.

You can also find girls inside the casino proper.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Will try that.

After my morning swim I took inroom massage. They seem to send me worse and worse in looks. Wouldn't have touched her; like never. Though very friendly and excellent oil massage.

I went to Mean Haur as no acces to hotel paris again. I noticed in their 2nd part building some pooltables.

And 20 girls sitting at couches. No customers. Perhaps better to play and pick their as when I went to first floor abd picked the girl I liked they sent me to a "massage" transparant room again. Didn't go in and " boom boom" seems the universal word. Ll say that one at the counter next time. I asked "private" room; but they don't look up and are busy with some papers. Alright I only pay one room this time. No english. I show I want to start with a short massage. Alrigt. After 25 mins finished. She sit next to me. I ask boom boom. She say 50. I look really surprised. Perhaps she thoughtbi would take the offer ss I asked forvthe boom boom room. I said no. 20. No. 25. No. Alright I say massage as I don't want to ruin the marketprice. She said lets go. I pointed out a massage takes longer then 30 mins. She continued 10 mins. Go? I say ok. She had skilled hands so was still oke. When I take my clothes no more offers. 3:30 in the afternoon. 30 other girls. I decided to stick to my bargainig price and go home as it is still early. She would have got 40 or 35 after all if she went for it and did a good job. Anyways up to her. Left. 6$ for room. 6$ massage. Gave her 2$ extra (she not seem to expect it) as I might go back tomorrow. And she noticed I had way much more in my pocket. Not sure for who the 6 $ massage was ment. A tip already or not. No other customers around.

So happy I didn't spoil the market way to much and had a good massage. Not sure where the negotiatons stopped. Perhaps the thougt I would give in.

Going to go to a " beer garden" with one of the hotel workers. I haven't paid my hotel bill yet so I guess its safe.

Well beer garden seems to be a local alias of barbecue garden. I went to a barbecue garden next (south) to v20 on natonial assembly street. It the street at the westide of naga complex. I can't recall it exact name but it is an open building with a big roof which moves when it rains so you stay dry. The girls working their have student uniforms in red (red shirt and skirt). There is also one promogirl in black who tries to sell guiness and drinks with you at the table. About 30 tables. I went there to eat with locals. Around 19:00 its full with locals; couples, drinking buddies and families. Enjoyable music on the background. Many people who work together come here for a good barbecue. You get a barbecue plate on which you can cook your meat; fish, vegetables. Abc cans enough. And if you drink to slow your glass doesn't get empty as the girls put ice in it so it stays cold. Some kids sell small stuff. No pressure.

After some of my company left the drinking guys stayed behind. I noticed some nice waitresses. About 10% the typical special eyeextensions. If I could speak khmer this seems a good place to get some normal gf. Said a few times hello in khmer. They thinking I talk to my buddies as my accent is bad. One waitress looks and smiles and say I look good. My new khmer buddies were so kind to translate. Just the guy who wanted to use my phone went silent (the others disapproved and didn't want to give their phone either) No KTV as he wanted after the bbc. After a short conversation with the girl she came regurarely sitting next to me and hit / took my gentle parts a few times to hard under the table. I realized she was into it for the money. She wanted to hangout. Didn't matter where. Preferred a club. I was tired and showed her my place which was only 3 streets away. She didn't seem to get it. Sms seemed also to complicated for her. I took off at 22:00, almost everyone left the place except the personel. They stay open till midnight. I dobt know if many waitresses are up for it or only this one. Best time to pass by is 22:00.

As promised I let the reception call her at midnight if I still was awake. She arrived around 01:20. Changing clorhes. Make up; shower; parfum and a mototaxi who like to overcharge at night while driving blocks. Many people in pp don't seem tobknow streetnames or numbers, even when they work there.

Had a 2 hour very GFE. She wanted to let me come several times. Quite rough at start in the style of handling me and almost forcing to handle her in the way she wanted. She seemed to enjoy. She had nice small breasts nicely in proportion; sometimes I couldn't breath because of the way she wanted me to handle them. Everytime I did something in a rough way (kissing / biting / holding) she liked it and I got it back twice as good in return. I did had to learn her to be more gentle with me which never happened before. Also didn't knew that she licking and kissing my armpits woud be so good. Never had a girl do that before. I wonder if most khmer girls behave in that way. Although my older friend from a few days ago was the opposite. Short time I eat her pussy which I normally never do especially with a small Bush; what can I say she was very gf convincing. Although She put some japanese movies on to make and keep me hard. 3th time she watched some thai khmer dubbed dramashow on her phone for a while which strangely didn't bother me.

She said she was20 years old. My khmer buddies for the evening thought 22 which I believe as she looked 19 to me and I'm always 3 or 4 years off in guessing. No I'd or family card which normally is required for our reception. They take a key or phone as it seems to exist no all khmer take the effort to get an I'd. Got a safe and reception confirmed she was minimum 20 and called me if she could leave or not. Would rate her a n8/10 for the looks, a 10 for the effort and a 9 for GFE.

When my online khmer dictionary showed go home or stay home here she said go home. Not sure if she understood that she had the choice. Gave her 40$. Had planned 30 for ST or 45LT.

So with all the consumption of abc, the midnight close time I think there are some possibilities at this eating / drinking place. Khmer language required unless your body language is excellent.

Medanboy,

Have you been to Pontoon or Heart of Darkness to pickup? How about the dating websites? (DateinAsia and AsianDating)

How old are you mate? I am going to Phnom Penh soon.

[QUOTE=CaliPro; 1471970]Medanboy,

Have you been to Pontoon or Heart of Darkness to pickup? How about the dating websites? (DateinAsia and AsianDating)

How old are you mate? I am going to Phnom Penh soon.[/QUOTE]I got out to ho chi min. I like dating websites but didn't have time to warmup and prepare so can't tell. The clubs I mentionned is for next time.

I'm not sure but perhaps it could be wise to check the local news before going to phnom pehn. I got out when the demonstrations started. As I hear people are getting more and more angry with their government. Thats why almost nobody gets control from the police (if you rent a bike / car / or whatever you do). Perhsps all quite and still safe now. I don't know.

Hey folks,

Can anyone shed light on safety on the ground given the demonstrations etc?

Thinking of adding PP to my itinerary for my upcoming trip but not wanting to get stuck in the country.

[QUOTE=Zeppelin029; 1472732]Hey folks, anyone can shed light on safety on the ground given the demonstrations etc?

Thinking of adding PP to my itinerary for my upcoming trip but not wanting to get stuck in the country.[/QUOTE]A good question. I come to Phnom Penh Monday. Normally, PP a very safe place. Now what? Are the bars open? Can you get around as usual. Can some of the resident expats give us information?

[QUOTE=AskeAske;1472822]A good question. I come to Phnom Penh Monday. Normally, PP a very safe place. Now what? Are the bars open? Can you get around as usual. Can some of the resident expats give us information?[/QUOTE]It's all fine. The main tourist areas including streets 104, 136, etc are all calm and the bars are open.

Plenty of police and military police around to maintain security.

All airports and border crossings open.