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[quote=econo tech;1231225]or you mean the kind of justice where sometimes, the wrong people get 'trial by media' and proven guilty before even being. like the case in cebu where the wrong couple was accused of murdering a kid? lol[/quote]no, i mean the kind of justice that hurts and sends a clear signal to the society. where society cares and protects the ones that deserves it. these five years in prison is a humiliation to the children, fathers and mothers.

according to news articles i read, both the swedish guys convicted in this mess has similar verdicts from the past. the younger one was even admitted for "treatment" (unfortunately not in the hells angels rehabilitation center for imprisoned ****s). the ones in this network that resided in usa got at least 20-30 years, while this insect got less than maximum (8 years). wtf!

it is bad enough when a scumbag like those molest a child, but to turn it into a media enterprise and take up orders for customized child [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and torture pictures or movies, to make money for the next trip, is just revolting. we are not talking border line teens of 17 years and 364 days with a fake i'd, that is considered of limit on a more principal basis. infants and babies of just a few years age are the victims here. patrick johnsson had over 500 000 pictures and 10 000 movies, many made by himself. if i was allowed, i would beat him to death with a lead pipe, and then sleep as good as ever. and i do not give a rats ass if anyone consider me a barbaric savage. he consumed his rights to breathe.

let us leave this topic. it makes at least me to upset for my own good. sorry if i rant.

if you have the urge to comment or ***** about me hanging out his name here, suppress it! i do not care about your opinion if you think this scumbag deserves to be protected. rules are general but always applied in a specific case. protection of integrity or the right to treatment was long passed in this case.

i come to think of a well known scene.

marsellus: "what now? let me tell you what now. i'm going to call a couple of hard, pipe-hitting niggas to go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. [to zed] you hear me talking, hillbilly boy? i ain't through with you by a damn sight. i'm going to get medieval on your ass."

once again sorry if i spread negativity with these two posts. i should perhaps call someone instead but you pervs are my only true friends. lol.

over and out on this subject.

subaculture, did you read a little bit in the various threads? this is a very general question and the possible answers you are searching, are just a few mouse clicks away, waiting for you to find them. a comment on finding girls on the beaches of davao (the only ones i know anything about) is that this is a long shot. either they are there with family, a man or with friends. all categories are cock blockers. i think this observation can be considered general; hence not totally ot in the general info-thread. bring your own girlfriend to the beach (resort). for specific advice on beach resorts in davao, you will find them named in the davao threads and the philippines rod-section. good luck and do not hesitate to post specific questions after you did some reading and initial planning of your route.

barba

[QUOTE=Subaculture; 1231320]Heading to the phils on Jan 14th for 30 days. Having been caught up in work, I haven't much in the way of any planning. However, having been to AC two times, I would prefer some travel (south) in the rest of the country. I am not a beach person but a day or two in various spots wouldn't be hell. I would prefer to stay in 5-6 various places for 5 days or so before flying back to Manilla. I fly into Manilla, but would prefer to only stay there for 2/3 days.

If ye guys had a wish list for out of the way places to monger or chance freelancers, what cities, towns or beach resorts would you choose!

I. E.

(1) Cebu. 3 days.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions![/QUOTE]2 weeks stick to AC

Cebu needs a week and even then you have to stick to bars as the freelancers are busy this time of year.

[QUOTE=Subaculture; 1231320]Heading to the phils on Jan 14th for 30 days. Having been caught up in work, I haven't much in the way of any planning. However, having been to AC two times, I would prefer some travel (south) in the rest of the country. I am not a beach person but a day or two in various spots wouldn't be hell. I would prefer to stay in 5-6 various places for 5 days or so before flying back to Manilla. I fly into Manilla, but would prefer to only stay there for 2/3 days.

If ye guys had a wish list for out of the way places to monger or chance freelancers, what cities, towns or beach resorts would you choose!

I. E.

(1) Cebu. 3 days.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions![/QUOTE]As Frenzy3 stated stick to manila / ac. You don't have much time and you way over extending yourself. If you want to see the country then perhaps find a girl or two and take them around, a nice girlfriend / s experience. To see 5-6 cities in 2 weeks LOL, you will spend half of your time traveling (keep in mind bigger cities are on different islands so lots of flights) and struggling to find accommodation especially in the provinces unless you are happy to really rough it out. In manila I would do a week, I would split my time between Malate, Makati and QC. Then make my way to AC. Perhaps take in Boracay or another resort for the end depending on your budget. I would bring a girl or two from AC to my final destination. By the way if you are not into the beach I would seriously question what is it that you are trying to see or find in Phils? Unless you are into churches there is not much else to see in most of the smaller towns. Forget hunting for girls there if all you have is 2-3 days in each town.

Rethink you itinerary.

[QUOTE=Subaculture; 1231320][b]Heading to the phils on Jan 14th for 30 days. [/b]

[b]However, having been to AC two times, I would prefer some travel (south) in the rest of the country. [/b][/QUOTE]You guys who responded need to either reread Subacultures post or buy some reading glasses or both! :o

Personally, I would stay in Cebu a week and use it as a base. Decide which islands you want to hop. Most of the neighboring islands can be accessed in less then an hour on a plane or several hours by ferry. Consider Tacloban, Leyte; Tagbilaren, Bohol; Dumaguete or Bacolad Negros and various cities on Mindanao including Cagayan de Oro and Davao. Start working DIA as you will have a friend waiting for you in the locations you pick. If you find your honey ko, each of these cities has beach resorts that you can use on an overnight. Good luck and file a FR!

[QUOTE=Subaculture; 1231320]Heading to the phils on Jan 14th for 30 days.

If ye guys had a wish list for out of the way places to monger or chance freelancers, what cities, towns or beach resorts would you choose![/QUOTE]One problem with your plan will be your visa extention. You are granted a free 21 day tourist visa upon entry into the Philippines. Technically the 21 day visa starts on your first full day in the Philippines (day after arrival) so you get 22 days. You mentioned you will stay for 30 days and you will have to pay anywhere from 3000-4500p for a visa extention based on if you go to the immigration office in person or if you get a visa service to take care of the extention.

If you opt to go yourself expect one whole day waiting in lines but the pain will be over quickly. If you opt to have a visa service do your extention your passport can be in there hands for up to 2-3 days depending on when you drop it off. That means you have to stay in one place for that time period because you can't check into hotels or take flights without your passport.

You can choose to do nothing about the extention and pay the fine and visa extention fees when you leave the Philippines as others have done. Up to you, just something for you to think about.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1231788]One problem with your plan will be your visa extention. You are granted a free 21 day tourist visa upon entry into the Philippines. Technically the 21 day visa starts on your first full day in the Philippines (day after arrival) so you get 22 days. You mentioned you will stay for 30 days and you will have to pay anywhere from 3000-4500p for a visa extention based on if you go to the immigration office in person or if you get a visa service to take care of the extention.

If you opt to go yourself expect one whole day waiting in lines but the pain will be over quickly. If you opt to have a visa service do your extention your passport can be in there hands for up to 2-3 days depending on when you drop it off. That means you have to stay in one place for that time period because you can't check into hotels or take flights without your passport.[/QUOTE]I've always wondered about something. Since many of us know of our trip well in advance, and want to stay longer than 21 days, why not just skip the 21-day Visa-On-Arrival, and mail in a regular 3-month visa application to your nearest Philippine Embassy? You have to send your passport, but the cost is only $30USD. This makes more sense than extending the 21-day thing for a lot more money.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1231796]I've always wondered about something. Since many of us know of our trip well in advance, and want to stay longer than 21 days, why not just skip the 21-day Visa-On-Arrival, and mail in a regular 3-month visa application to your nearest Philippine Embassy? You have to send your passport, but the cost is only $30USD. This makes more sense than extending the 21-day thing for a lot more money.[/QUOTE]Interesting option but do you really want to trust the Philippine Embassy with your passport? Half the time they can't even be bothered to answer the phone so I'm sure there is a better than 50-50 chance it will take longer than a month to get your passport back and if they lose it what then?

I just checked the extention stamps in my passport and the cost was 3030P to the immigration for a 38 day extention and that did not include the fee to the visa service. All in it cost me 4200p. Next time I will go directly to the immigration office and stand in line for a few hours and save some pesos.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1231879]All in it cost me 4200p.[/QUOTE]Should you be in Davao they do (or at least did) it for 3500 in the little office next to immigration, opposite Victoria mall.

The few times I did this, I left my number and went for shopping in Victoria, and then they sent me a text when it was done.

Barba

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1230512]It's interesting that it is always the same handful of posters claiming that the Philippines is safe and free of corruption. They always make personal attacks against any poster with a dissenting opinion. The basis of their argument is always the same. If someone has a different viewpoint or experience of the country that poster must be bitter, sour, on an agenda, never visited the country, etc.[/QUOTE]I agree with most of the points you have made in the rest of your transcript, but which posts have you been reading where members are claiming that the Philippines is free of corruption? Did you throw this extra bit in just to add weight to your argument?

Thanks for all the good advice. I think I will base myself in Cebu for the 38 days (I have extended my holiday) and take some four (3/4 nights) trips to neighboring Islands. Sounds like a plan??

I will get the visa extension at Manilla Airport upon arrival or in Dumaguete (across from the market next to Vintage Inn) because people says its quick and painless. Cost is 3030php, am I right?

Now the penny drops. Smart people are often dyslectic so we all read it as 14 to 30 Jan.

Shit yeah if your staying 30 days do Cebu and island hop from here, you can find the right girl here in Cebu and have a great time. Subaculture Ping me before you are in Cebu I can try help you find the right girl.

1 year multiple entry visa:

It's what I use.

Get it at the Philippine embassy or nearest consulate-

You need your passport, passport photos (2?)

& a form that you can printout online (I'll try to post website later if I can find it).

I think you need a copy of your upcoming airline ticket or itinerary.

You give them $90. (? I think) LEAVE THEM YOUR PASSPORT & COME PICK IT UP WITH THE VISA IN A FEW DAYS.

I never had a problem with them losing my passport.

The visa takes up a whole page in your passport (like the one from Indonesia).

It's good for multiple entries for a period of one year, each entry good for up to 59 days.

Sorry if my details are not accurate, because some one else has been doing it for me as I live 150 miles from the consulate (I give them some kind of notarized form. Also online, I think.) Anyone who knows more about this or has a better mind for detail than old Don, please feel free to correct me or elaborate.

I do know it works. I've used it for years. The one year, multiple-entry. 59 day maximum stay (unless extended in PI) information is accurate.

Happy New Year to All!

[QUOTE=Barba; 1231426]No, I mean the kind of justice that hurts and sends a clear signal to the society. Where society cares and protects the ones that deserves it. These five years in prison is a humiliation to the children, fathers and mothers...[/QUOTE]AMEN. I'll hand you the lead pipe.

I wrote a response to #6268 by Stroker Ace and the recent discussion about cab sames / cultures, in the Cebu thread but it is just to unrelated to Cebu to stay there. Was considering "Other Areas" (as in the area of philosophical speculations) but moved it here to "General Info".

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1232902]-Lurker who has never visited.

-Someone who plans to visit one day (maybe just a fantasy) *

-Someone who spent a few days in the Philippines some years ago.

-Someone who spent a week total in the Philippines.

-Someone who spends a week a year in the Philippines.

-Someone who visits a few times a year but does not stay long.

-Someone who spends 200+ days a year in the Philippines.

-Those who live in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]And then you add the fact that all of these can be anything from a cynical alcoholic or a reborn teenager wannabe (with the associated pathetic ego that needs to try to impress everyone) , to hard core religious fanatics or nihilists, and you can be 100% sure that what one man call culture, or even "the truth", is another mans perception of a culturally conditioned scam that ought to be eradicated. One must not forget that all the guys that was not in the country, actually did something else, that might make them equally or more well equipped to see the true nature of a specific behavior. Humans search flocks or groups (even on ISG) and this need to belong to something (anything will most often do) , can also make us blind for our own contextual interpretation.

I am amazed by how grown up men I meet all over the world want to measure the penis size with the question "is it your first time here". Are people really that stressed over themselves? I often say "yes" only to let this poor man strike his ego in explaining all the "truths" about this place, that embraced his sad person in all it's dented pride. Since pride is a fantasy monster that I want to fight, iIt cost me nothing but some suppressed primitive impulses. And this poor man will feel a momentary relief from his self whipping. So why not?

For some guys it is actually the first time in some place (it normally always is at some point) , and what the competition oriented co-humans seem to forget is that these guys actually where somewhere else, where they also lived and observed. They where not hibernating in some stimulus free coma.

I have friends that lived 20+ years in the Philippines and they are still ignorant, and I have friends that visit for the first time, that sees fundamental psychosocial traits for exactly what they are. Most often we interpret the world as we have to and as we where trained to do and not as it is in a true objective physiological sense. Google "thin slicing" for an interesting concept on patterns, non intellectual decisions / interpretation and "gut feeling".

Many opinions and advice we provide, are most often ourselves reselling decisions to ourselves, over and over again. One guy left and never wish to go back, and he will sell the image that supports this decision. Another guy accepted the compromise it means to live in the Philippines, and from him you will most likely hear anther more sympathetic "truth".

I see a lot of different good strategies on how to spend resources to maximize the total gain, both in terms of transportation and in terms of impressing females so they will be willing to receive our seed. Some even come from people that did not visit the Philippines in person. The good thing is that, per definition, we can never agree and the ISG discussion will never ever terminate on these topics. Everlasting and almost free entertainment.

Thank you Red Kilt for the titles. Reading makes us smarter.

The onion analogy actually won the Nobel prize in literature once (anyone remembers Wislawa Szymborska?). Aren't all societies layered by the way? Isn't in fact all of universe layers that oscillate, and then we just labels things differently as they approach what we consider local maximas? A cultural trait is labeled a scam as the moral standpoint of the viewer changes. Did anyone follow that thought? INSERT SMILEY.

Barba, who strongly fears he will get exactly zero responses on his post once again. LOL

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1231980]Shit yeah if your staying 30 days do Cebu and island hop from here, you can find the right girl here in Cebu and have a great time. Subaculture Ping me before you are in Cebu I can try help you find the right girl.[/QUOTE]Will ping you once I am there and buy you a beer or two . Even in your local bar.