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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2786699]I would say he was nuts for giving a more than likely uneducated third world hooker $100 per day. People in the USA with the same education and skill level do not make that much if they are being paid the $7. 25 per hour minimum wage. Unless his dick was inside of her 24 hours of each day. Otherwise he probably bought food for her and took her places, which made is actual cost more than the $100 that he actually handed her. Definitely relative.
A buddy put this meme up in one of our chats a few weeks back. I pointed out that the guy actually cheated himself if he was not fucking her 24 hours of each day. He was paying her more to wait around than to do what he was actually paying her for.
"but he was not going to be fucking her 24 hours in a row for 6 days. Diminishing returns. Smarter to pay the 100 and be done than 30 times more. Her joy was because she was going to make a lot more to sit around and do nothing. ".[/QUOTE]100 bucks for a smoking hot girl, per day, is a great deal, even in Colombia. Mfs pay 200-300 USD for Gusto girls. Average looking FB chick charges 250 mil + taxi for a couple of hours. A quickie at La Isla is 350-400 mil plus entrance fee. Do your math. And El Centro chicks are too ugly and do not meet my minimum requirements, therefore, I don't care if they charge $10 or $100.
If you think $100 per day in MDE is not a good deal, go ahead and message the hottest girls on Seeking, Tinder, Instagram and offer them less, and see what happens. I'm sure you will be told to fuck off.
And why do you even compare minimum wage in the US to hooker rates in Colombia? Ugly crackheads in Miami, that I would not even touch, charge 200-250 USD for 1 hour.
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[QUOTE=Huacho;2786710]Well, I have 'human relationships' with a lot of black women and a lot of white women, that's for sure.[/QUOTE]What? No doggy?
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[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2787030] If you think $100 per day in MDE is not a good deal, go ahead and message the hottest girls on Seeking, Tinder, Instagram and offer them less, and see what happens. I'm sure you will be told to fuck off. [/QUOTE]That's even if they reply back, they will most likely ignore offers of a 100 or less. At least the "elite" looking ones haha.
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[QUOTE=Cursnoop;2787026]The thing about paying 100 dolar a day or the amount you paid is the minimum montly salary working everyday is around 200 $ depending on currency exchange 180 usd to 220. For you it might be cheap but for non gringos it is not. You paid her work for full month and a half in 3 days.[/QUOTE]Well yes I understand that but you have to consider these minimum salary workers also aren't getting naked and letting someone randomly fuck them (at least not physically) for their salary. The same can be said for usa escorts who charge 8 k or more for overnights, But no one seems to question that.
Just because the average worker might make $10 a day does that mean a girl is only worth paying $10 a day? Of course not right. It's all about service and what you think it's deserving of, if I have the opportunity to bless someone and deserves it, I have no issues doing that whether its a uber driver, a waitress, hell I tipped my barber more than what I was charged because it was 3 times less expensive and better service than what I normally get in the states.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2786980]An example is a chick that I used to mess with 20 years ago. She is a PhD and has money. She wanted a serious relationship with me. She offered to pay my child support if I was in a relationship with her. She also wanted a kid with me and said I would not need to take care of the kid. I turned all that down because she really was not my type but I loved her as a friend because she is smart. We are still friends and speak often and she is still single and still offering to take me on trips [/QUOTE]Sounds like a very desperate individual. Why wasn't she your type?
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[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2786890]I could see your point but just based off looks and chemistry to me she was worth $100 a day. From what I seen in the states, chicks as gorgeous as her, even some less beautiful ask for 1 k plus per day which I would never pay. $100 a day for a drop dead gorgeous playboy model looking girl IMO again "in my opinion" you will never get that in the states, not for $100 especially if you just met & that's only because after the 1st day I told her it was optional if she wanted to stay overnight or not and I wasn't going to pay her more than $100 to stay. But obviously the money, the amazing apartment I was staying at and the nights out was enough to keep her intrigued besides myself. Now I know This chick usually gets recruited with her friends to places like panama for triple what I was paying.
Since I came solo and wanted to try out nice restaurants & clubs / bars to me $100 for that company and unlimited sex, massages in the jacuzzi, not to mention she even cleaned the apartment LOL, all that was more than worth it but yeah after the 3rd day I had to kick her out because I wanted to explore more talent.
Now the problem will be avoiding her on my next visit. I might bring one of my mexico girls that wants to visit next time.[/QUOTE]Here's my free advice:
If you enjoyed it, don't worry about it.
I've never paid a girl to spend multiple days with me. I've never even paid a girl to spend the night with me. That doesn't mean I've never had a girl spend the night, or spend multiple days, it's just not something I'm interested in paying for. Same for a BBBJ. I've never paid extra for it, never will.
If I'm paying a girl, it's to fuck. She might spend the night, but that's her call, extra payment isn't happening. If she starts asking for extra money for this or that, I say no thanks, bust my nut, give her the money and push her out the door.
That's me. It works for me. If paying $100 a day for 3 days works for you, it doesn't matter if it doesn't work for someone else. Could you have got the same for less? Probably. Who cares? If at the end of the day you're smiling about it, then don't worry about it.
However, it's always a good idea to consider the other side. In fact, you already did. You said you might have to hide from her next trip. If you had just fucked her a couple of times and sent her home, different girl each day, then next trip you could easily work her into the rotation without any problems.
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2786806]I have not met anyone in this thread outside of Dramafree, and I described myself as overweight which I am. It went from that to I am a 400 lb whale. Of course, all these losers accepted that.
When it came to dating a beauty queen or an elite 10, they did not believe that. So they completely believe the negative but not the positive and that is the point. My point was that I was overweight and got an elite 10 which is all the more impressive. You have to be really, really skilled to do that, and I wanted to inspire guys, all guys that they could do it because if I could do what it took to get one, they could too. But it took time, work, money, and desire to achieve said goal.
Yeah, well, sorry, I cannot respect anyone who is a hypocritical stupid idiot. Which one helps least with weight loss? Gastric bypass, ozempic, or your choice of exercise? The correct answer is exercise and you do not know that because you are stupid. And it takes zero self discipline to get surgery or take a shot.[/QUOTE]Bear with me. I'm having fun at your expense, again, after a difficult weekend.
Let's start with the 1-10 scale. Although it's not discussed here, doesn't the same scale apply to men? In other words, each man on here, could also be rated from 1-10.
So, in the eyes of women, you walk into the room, they look you over and hold up your score. What do you get? Isn't any woman accepting you just settling for someone fat and ugly because she lacks the game to land a 10? Isn't she just settling because she doesn't want to put in the work it takes to do better? Or putting up with your admitted shortcomings because she needs the money?
If she's in such high demand, isn't it likely there's someone also competing who has money and isn't fat? Otherwise, you're really not competing. Game is useless, unless you fuck them and move on. And a girl from a wealthy family, with a good job and a bright future, shouldn't put money and generosity at a higher value than physical attraction. Well, unless she's got some obvious shortcomings of her own.
Which leaves us with a problem. A woman, without flaw, ranked as among the most beautiful by all who see her, from a family of considerable wealth, with a fine education from a highly respected university, an absolute unicorn, can't attract 1 man of reasonable income who isn't fat and ugly, and thinks she's worth spending a few dollars on.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2786980]It is not impressive. It is stupid. See a person knows right off if they like you. If I do not like a chick from the beginning, she can cook me all the gourmet meals and give me all the massages (use her skills) that she wants. It is not going to make me like her any more.
An example is a chick that I used to mess with 20 years ago. She is a PhD and has money. She wanted a serious relationship with me. She offered to pay my child support if I was in a relationship with her. She also wanted a kid with me and said I would not need to take care of the kid. I turned all that down because she really was not my type but I loved her as a friend because she is smart. We are still friends and speak often and she is still single and still offering to take me on trips and shit.
What you are describing is a person that did not really like you, but after you put in "WORK AND MONEY" they realized it may be beneficial to be with you. In other words it had nothing to do with your skill or you as a person and all of what they could get from you. Not saying fair exchange is a robbery; just saying stop being naive and illusioned. As has been said many times before, stop the money then come back and say how impressive it is. But you will not do that, because deep down inside you already know the truth.[/QUOTE]Nothing is impressive if you're the only 1 claiming it's impressive. It's like making a fake "Man of the Year" Time magazine cover, hanging it on your wall and telling everyone about your incredible accomplishment and then getting offended when they point out it's all bullshit.
That bit reminded me of a PhD girl I met. I could have really fallen for her and I think she could have fallen for me. Just 1 problem. She knew I was still married, and I refused to use any excuses, or to claim we were getting divorced, although we were and eventually did.
First time we just hung out for several hours, purely platonic. Couldn't stop thinking about her. So I called her the next day. She was heading to a beach city for 5 days, the same city I was headed towards and didn't have to be there for 3 days. She had a nice hotel room, Oceanview, paid for by her boyfriend who supposedly was getting a divorce (I eventually met 3 other women with the same boyfriend, who never did get the divorce), but he wouldn't be there until the evening after I had to leave.
She told me I could stay there, 2 beds, but nothing was happening because I was still married and she had a boyfriend. That lasted for about 3 hours. Didn't take money, although I splurged on dinner the first night, didn't take time, or much effort. It didn't even take game. It just took, putting myself in front of her and knowing when to offer her food from my fingers. Although a moonlight stroll on an empty beach, after hand feeding her crab and letting her suck the butter from my fingers, helped to seal the deal.
Impressive? Not especially, but I highly recommend it.
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[QUOTE=Cursnoop;2787026]The thing about paying 100 dolar a day or the amount you paid is the minimum montly salary working everyday is around 200 $ depending on currency exchange 180 usd to 220. For you it might be cheap but for non gringos it is not. You paid her work for full month and a half in 3 days.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but from what I experienced in Medellin, that isn't abnormal for attractive non-pros. Even the best looking pros online will charge 200 K / hour for outcalls. The exchange rate is around 460 K COP to $100 USD last week, so it seems like a good deal for the day or at least most of it.
Personally, I prefer semi-pro women who work normal jobs and come to me because I'm much more relaxed at my own hotel. I wouldn't spend hours with a pro and they charge less because they're fucking multiple dudes a day.
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[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2787089]That's even if they reply back, they will most likely ignore offers of a 100 or less. At least the "elite" looking ones haha.[/QUOTE]There's your problem. Who starts a conversation with a stranger with "I'll pay you $100 to fuck me?" Appeal to her curiosity. Get her interested in who you are. Give her a reason to reply to your message instead of just throwing money until she responds.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2786980]It is not impressive. It is stupid. See a person knows right off if they like you.[/QUOTE]Says who? I liked a girl just fine, thought she was GF material and then learned she was an alcoholic and then no more. You can learn more or less about something all the time. This is the stupidest thing I have heard.
Then you give this example of a girl who liked you. Great.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2786980]IWhat you are describing is a person that did not really like you, but after you put in "WORK AND MONEY" they realized it may be beneficial to be with you. In other words it had nothing to do with your skill or you as a person and all of what they could get from you. Not saying fair exchange is a robbery; just saying stop being naive and illusioned.[/QUOTE]So when a woman likes me, it is for money but when a woman likes you, it is because of you. LOL. God, you are such a blowhard.
Dummy, when a woman is a 10, which you know nothing about because clearly you go for less attractive women, she has guys throwing money at her right and left. I have a female best friend who is super hot used to be married to the lead in a rock band, everyone here knows. She has no problem getting a rich guy, no problem getting guys to buy her drinks, no problem having people wanting to be her friend. Unlike idiots like you, I know what she wants in a guy and it is not money. Nothing would turn her off more than guys throwing cash at her because she was with a guy who used money to control her. She proudly says, "I don't need no man for money. ".
So where did you get the dumb idea I was taking about paying off a woman when I said it takes money?
And you just said a woman likes you or not right away so what is the point of work? So you have no clue what the money is for and no clue what the work is.
And there is no point in talking to my female friend because with your philosophy, all you have to do is say "Hi", and that is it. In 2 seconds, she knows whether she should marry you or not just based on that first impression.
The amazing thing about you and these pile on posts is how fucking stupid they are, and you will go on and on with insults and cheap shots trying to show everyone you are not that stupid when clearly you are. If you are the competition, Mr. E, it is no wonder I have a 10.
And the reason I have dated a beauty queen and landed a 10 is because I paid the money and did the work, and you do not, and you cannot handle it. I have kicked your ass because your game, and the amount of effort you put in, sucks ass.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2787226]Nothing is impressive if you're the only 1 claiming it's impressive. It's like making a fake "Man of the Year" Time magazine cover, hanging it on your wall and telling everyone about your incredible accomplishment and then getting offended when they point out it's all bullshit..[/QUOTE]Here is the definition of impressive: making or tending to make a marked impression: having the power to excite attention, awe, or admiration.
I already said the point of it being impressive was to excite others that they could do likewise dumb shit. Changing words and definitions around to make yourself look good or win an argument is what you do all the time. What was the point of you bragging about your height and body and calling yourself Lebron asshole? You are the egotistical loser looking in the mirror day and night not me.
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Let's start with the 1-10 scale. Although it's not discussed here, doesn't the same scale apply to men? In other words, each man on here, could also be rated from 1-10.[/QUOTE]Well, per you all that matters on the 1 to 10 scale is weight and checking account balance so that is all that is measured.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2787220]Isn't any woman accepting you just settling for someone fat and ugly because she lacks the game to land a 10? Isn't she just settling because she doesn't want to put in the work it takes to do better? Or putting up with your admitted shortcomings because she needs the money?
If she's in such high demand, isn't it likely there's someone also competing who has money and isn't fat? Otherwise, you're really not competing. Game is useless, unless you fuck them and move on. And a girl from a wealthy family, with a good job and a bright future, shouldn't put money and generosity at a higher value than physical attraction. Well, unless she's got some obvious shortcomings of her own.
Which leaves us with a problem. A woman, without flaw, ranked as among the most beautiful by all who see her, from a family of considerable wealth, with a fine education from a highly respected university, an absolute unicorn, can't attract 1 man of reasonable income who isn't fat and ugly, and thinks she's worth spending a few dollars on.[/QUOTE]But you do not know what the game is. The money I spend is for a fake scale and app that multiplies what I have in my bank account by 1000. So I just get on the scale, and it shows my perfect weight and then my checkbook balance, and voila, all the 10's want to fuck me. Aren't you jealous that you did not come up with such an idea?
I also have a machine that automatically says I am 30. It is funny why you missed that age point Lebron. Is that maybe because you think all women want you versus the truth that they think you are an old fart?
I wonder how many guys here have seen Beauty and the Beast because every guy here seems to want to be Gaston. He goes up to Belle the beauty and basically says, "I am hot. You are hot. Let's have a hot life together", and he describes a life that has zero appeal to her. That is you guys with women.
Belle's father is captured by the beast, and Belle tells the beast to imprison her instead. So what was her life real about? Not muscles. Not balance sheets. Her father. Her family.
Oh right, but that is just a fairy tale. We all know women do not give two shits about their parents and family.
Is it any wonder why I have a 10 now and you do not?
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2787226]Nothing is impressive if you're the only 1 claiming it's impressive. It's like making a fake "Man of the Year" Time magazine cover, hanging it on your wall and telling everyone about your incredible accomplishment and then getting offended when they point out it's all bullshit..[/QUOTE]Here is the definition of impressive: making or tending to make a marked impression: having the power to excite attention, awe, or admiration.
I already said the point of it being impressive was to excite others that they could do likewise dumb shit. Changing words and definitions around to make yourself look good or win an argument is what you do all the time. What was the point of you bragging about your height and body and calling yourself Lebron asshole? You are the egotistical loser looking in the mirror day and night not me.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2787220]
Let's start with the 1-10 scale. Although it's not discussed here, doesn't the same scale apply to men? In other words, each man on here, could also be rated from 1-10.[/QUOTE]Well, per you all that matters on the 1 to 10 scale is weight and checking account balance so that is all that is measured.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2787220]Isn't any woman accepting you just settling for someone fat and ugly because she lacks the game to land a 10? Isn't she just settling because she doesn't want to put in the work it takes to do better? Or putting up with your admitted shortcomings because she needs the money?
If she's in such high demand, isn't it likely there's someone also competing who has money and isn't fat? Otherwise, you're really not competing. Game is useless, unless you fuck them and move on. And a girl from a wealthy family, with a good job and a bright future, shouldn't put money and generosity at a higher value than physical attraction. Well, unless she's got some obvious shortcomings of her own.
Which leaves us with a problem. A woman, without flaw, ranked as among the most beautiful by all who see her, from a family of considerable wealth, with a fine education from a highly respected university, an absolute unicorn, can't attract 1 man of reasonable income who isn't fat and ugly, and thinks she's worth spending a few dollars on.[/QUOTE]But you do not know what the game is. The money I spend is for a fake scale and app that multiplies what I have in my bank account by 1000. So I just get on the scale, and it shows my perfect weight and then my checkbook balance, and voila, all the 10's want to fuck me. Aren't you jealous that you did not come up with such an idea?
I also have a machine that automatically says I am 30. It is funny why you missed that age point Lebron. Is that maybe because you think all women want you versus the truth that they think you are an old fart?
I wonder how many guys here have seen Beauty and the Beast because every guy here seems to want to be Gaston. He goes up to Belle the beauty and basically says, "I am hot. You are hot. Let's have a hot life together", and he describes a life that has zero appeal to her. That is you guys with women.
Belle's father is captured by the beast, and Belle tells the beast to imprison her instead. So what was her life real about? Not muscles. Not balance sheets. Her father. Her family.
Oh right, but that is just a fairy tale. You all "know" women do not give two shits about their parents and family.
Is it any wonder why I have a 10 now and you do not?
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2787355]There's your problem. Who starts a conversation with a stranger with "I'll pay you $100 to fuck me?" Appeal to her curiosity. Get her interested in who you are. Give her a reason to reply to your message instead of just throwing money until she responds.[/QUOTE]I never said that's my approach haha, I don't usually talk money, I just say if she is interested in meeting we can make arrangements when that time comes. 3 things usually happen, She will agree and give me her number so I can contact her when it's closer to the date, other's tell me their price right away, and some just don't reply or ever open the message.
I do agree I would have better results if I put more time and effort into messaging these women but I just don't have the time for it.
But like I just mentioned in a comment I just posted about how the older guys tend to put in more work with these girls, I'm sure I could learn a thing or two from older gents like yourself, after all you should have more experience.
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[QUOTE=VoodooJones;2787315] Personally, I prefer semi-pro women who work normal jobs and come to me because I'm much more relaxed at my own hotel. I wouldn't spend hours with a pro and they charge less because they're fucking multiple dudes a day.[/QUOTE]I agree, this is exactly how I ended up with the 19 yr old on my last day. I was trying to decide whether I should see a pro or this chick on fb. I just went with it and said well if she doesn't show ill just go see a pro. But like you said I prefer the comfort of being in your own place and not it being so transactional with someone is has a line of guys coming in and out. Although there is 2 independent pros I wanted to see that guys keep raving about their services and how hot they are but they seemed to always be busy and hard to get in touch with.