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This is a wise post in a sea of "every woman in thailand can be bought" crap.
My big mistake in thailand is assuming girls I met online at TF were all hookers when some were just lonely or bored or unhappy and were sick of thai men. In a country where education is increasingly valued, there are going to be many thai women who despise the general lazy, mooching, cheating thai male and choose to remain single or seek divorces whilst still independent financially.
Honestly punting has messed with me on many levels including my assumptions why a woman would spend time with me. Think thailand is full of hookers, ergo, every woman is available for the right price, ergo everyone needs to be bought.
I'd give one cash for taxis and chocolates and gifts when she didn't want any of that and would empty it out before she left. She only wanted sex and company.
Women in thailand are smart enough to know most thai men are rotten to the core, but don't fancy meeting foreigners in a club.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2773143]That is an absolutely false assumption. If you look for hookers, you will find many. If you look for regular girls, you will find many. Occasionally it isnt easy to tell which is which.
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On a related note, this trip I was looking for non-pro TF ladies and I met two. I hit the jackpot with one lady and spent many days and nights with her. The other lady turned out to be a hooker, though I was half expecting it. She was one of the many who wanted to fake being my girlfriend so I would send monthly money.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Supmam;2773157]This is a wise post in a sea of "every woman in Thailand can be bought" crap.
My big mistake in Thailand is assuming girls I met online at TF were all hookers when some were just lonely or bored or unhappy and were sick of thai men. In a country where education is increasingly valued, there are going to be many Thai women who despise the general lazy, mooching, cheating thai male and choose to remain single or seek divorces whilst still independent financially.
Honestly punting has messed with me on many levels including my assumptions why a woman would spend time with me. Think Thailand is full of hookers, ergo, every woman is available for the right price, ergo everyone needs to be bought.
I'd give one cash for taxis and chocolates and gifts when she didn't want any of that and would empty it out before she left. She only wanted sex and company.
Women in Thailand are smart enough to know most Thai men are rotten to the core, but don't fancy meeting foreigners in a club.[/QUOTE]Most Thai men are not Rotten to the core.
Just the ones we SEe, just the ones on the bottom of the caste system. Think Explorer.
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It seems hard. When I was on tinder in Medellin every girl was a hooker it seemed. Why does every non hooker in Thailand have to be someone that is looking for a husband. It seems there is no middle ground to just meeting a Thai girl and going on a couple dates. You guys assumed I was going to lie to them and pretend I was in love on date one. Is that what they are used too on date one. Meet the family on date 2.
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[QUOTE=Supmam;2773157]This is a wise post in a sea of "every woman in thailand can be bought" crap.
My big mistake in thailand is assuming girls I met online at TF were all hookers when some were just lonely or bored or unhappy and were sick of thai men. In a country where education is increasingly valued, there are going to be many thai women who despise the general lazy, mooching, cheating thai male and choose to remain single or seek divorces whilst still independent financially.
Honestly punting has messed with me on many levels including my assumptions why a woman would spend time with me. Think thailand is full of hookers, ergo, every woman is available for the right price, ergo everyone needs to be bought.
I'd give one cash for taxis and chocolates and gifts when she didn't want any of that and would empty it out before she left. She only wanted sex and company.
Women in thailand are smart enough to know most thai men are rotten to the core, but don't fancy meeting foreigners in a club.[/QUOTE]This article says there are around 1. Jillion sex workers in Thailand when you include independents. Maybe we aren't wrong for thinking everyone is a hooker. [URL]https://www.thailandredcat.com/the-different-types-and-costs-of-hookers-in-thailand/[/URL].
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Thank you!
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2772977]No, but if you're American (SFO in the name), you don't need visa on arrival anyway. You can get a free 30 day (45 day until March) visa-exempt entry stamp each time you arrive.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2773199]This article says there are around 1. Jillion sex workers in Thailand when you include independents. Maybe we aren't wrong for thinking everyone is a hooker. [URL]https://www.thailandredcat.com/the-different-types-and-costs-of-hookers-in-thailand/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Your own source says about 1 million are sex workers, that's out of a population of about 70 million. If you get away from the hooker zones you will find a whole different Thailand.
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[QUOTE=Supmam;2773157]This is a wise post in a sea of "every woman in thailand can be bought" crap.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2773314]Your own source says about 1 million are sex workers, that's out of a population of about 70 million. If you get away from the hooker zones you will find a whole different Thailand.[/QUOTE]So right. The trouble is with those whose Thailand is Nana, Soi Cowboy, Patpong, lower Sukhumvit, Soi 24-1, Pattaya, Youtube videos [S]...[/S] They have such a skewed view. [B]Golds[/B] recently posted [I]"It's also such a fake society, their kindness, there politeness.. it's one big show.[/I]" Yea, in certain parts of Thailand, it is. I'd expect the Pattaya [I]1-hour[/I] 18-19-20 year old bgs to be returning what they get. But outside of those areas [S]...[/S] [B]MY[/B] experience is the politeness, kindness, their hospitality for a stranger is genuine. You have to understand that just because someone is smiling at you doesn't mean they're happy with you. It's all about "khun ji dee" (good heart) and keeping your outward composure. Even WITHIN those areas, I've found some REALLY NICE people.
[B]MY OPINION[/B]: I have NO experience with dating, but it's not a real surprise that a local is not keen on going out on [U]just[/U] dates with a stranger due to the expectations / views of some. Are the local women back home keen on dating a foreign visitor who's only going to be there a short time? As in ANYWHERE, they all have their own lives, their own friends. Sure, 20 years ago, when falangs were somewhat of a rarity, especially outside of lower Sukhumvit, there was probably a curiosity factor. But now, where can you go in BKK WITHOUT seeing falangs. Thong Lo, Ekkamai, even on the sub-sub sois, there they are. So meeting a [I]local[/I] falang wouldn't be all that difficult via their own friends, so why swipe left / right / whatever with an unknown? And given the risk that the falang's definition of a [I]date[/I] might be different than hers [S]...[/S]. Plus, Thailand is actually a very conservative country, so there are those Thais who would view a mixed couple as having a certain [I]financial[/I] connotation, unless it was with a work colleague. Like I say, no practical experience, just conversations with [I]civilian[/I] Thai friends.
There is a certain subset of Thai women that have given up on Thai men for a permanent relationship, IMHO. Those are the single / divorced mothers. One thing I DON'T understand about Thai men, and Asian men in general, is their obsession with [I]blood[/I], not accepting [I]step-[/I]. The single moms I've talked with understand that most all Thai men will never accept her kid as theirs. I know one who has given up, deciding to be independent, enjoy life with friends, have some [I]fun[/I], but accepting that she's not going to have a partner. Another I just met, her goal was to go work in a foreign country, hoping to meet a man who would accept her kid as theirs. Like the stereotyped ghetto kid playing basketball, thinking he'll make it in the NBA. Yea, a few do, but most don't. Sad really, because she is a nice, fun person. Believe me, I'm no white knight, no bleeding heart, I'm not a liferaft. But, for me, those are the type that I RESPECT; when things go south, they don't sit on the curb and cry. They make the hard decision to go out and make money to support their family with what they have. My 2 cents.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2773314]Your own source says about 1 million are sex workers, that's out of a population of about 70 million. If you get away from the hooker zones you will find a whole different Thailand.[/QUOTE]No you won't.
What you will find is a vibrant Bargirl Scene. Just without us.
80% of money spent on Bargirls is by Thais. 20% by us.
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Lucrativeity of Stripchat, etc.
Thai section. 3 ladies. One has 8 viewers, only one viewer is registered, meaning can spend tokens, aka money.
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I found this great you tube channel where the guy goes to what seems like every AMP in Bangkok and records the lineup. I was blown away at how beautiful some of these women are. Some were like the Asian playboy mansion with a solid 15 to choose from in their matching outfits. Do you guys recognize this AMP by the gold outfits. It's at the 14:30 mark. The 6th girl from the left is a 10. This place and a few others seem to put the go go bars to shame. I haven't been impressed with the walking videos in the bar area but these AMP seem amazing. Give me an idea How much 1 HR would be for full service at the place I marked at 14:30 and how much to take out for an all nighter. Thanks.
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uFsM21idrAM[/URL]
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[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2773558]I found this great you tube channel where the guy goes to what seems like every AMP in Bangkok and records the lineup. I was blown away at how beautiful some of these women are. Some were like the Asian playboy mansion with a solid 15 to choose from in their matching outfits. Do you guys recognize this AMP by the gold outfits. It's at the 14:30 mark. The 6th girl from the left is a 10. This place and a few others seem to put the go go bars to shame. I haven't been impressed with the walking videos in the bar area but these AMP seem amazing. Give me an idea How much 1 HR would be for full service at the place I marked at 14:30 and how much to take out for an all nighter. Thanks.
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uFsM21idrAM[/URL][/QUOTE]I agree with you. I would like to know too! Over half of the girls are really doable for me.
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[QUOTE=TomThumbbs;2773436]No you won't.
What you will find is a vibrant Bargirl Scene. Just without us.
80% of money spent on Bargirls is by Thais. 20% by us.[/QUOTE]Care to cite your source?
Not a good start THIS time when your first post is deleted by the admin. But let's see if you can contribute an actual FR with some actual Intel.
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[QUOTE=11Bravo;2773661]Care to cite your source?
Not a good start THIS time when your first post is deleted by the admin. But let's see if you can contribute an actual FR with some actual Intel.[/QUOTE]Just one of a Jillion example. Mid COVID when BKK was in all essence closed to us. Who were caught partying with Thonglor Bargirls. All over the new s.
Hint. It wasn't Mr Tooms or Goatscrit.
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[QUOTE=Dg8787;2773615]I agree with you. I would like to know too! Over half of the girls are really doable for me.[/QUOTE]Sukhumvit soi 24/1. But video is from 2 yrs ago and quite a few of the shops did not make it through covid. Far fewer gals now and not many lookers. Area across from the soi 24 entrance to the emporium is a bit better.
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I read the owner of the famous BJ bar committed suicide. Did any of you guys know him. After reading up on all the sex places and watching ytube videos, I have come to the conclusion that Bangkok is one big *****house. Is it even possible for a local Thai guy to ever be faithful to one women. I can't imagine a regular girl trusting any guy local or tourist. I understand why the US will never legalize prostitution nationwide. Women would literally lose all power. Marriage would collapse. For the veterans of Bangkok, at what point does the whole thing get old, and satiety kicks in long term.