Stupid shit in Medellin

I'll treat this as something worthy of serious consideration, rather than the inane rambling of an idiot with an unfathomable compulsion to make himself look stupid whenever he encounters my name.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2787443]I don't need to know you, or know her, in order to make a simple conclusion that a 60 yr old gringo truck driver has very little (if anything at all) in common with a 20 yr kid from Colombia. You are being delusional when calling her your girlfriend.[/QUOTE]Actually you do need to know me. If you are rushed to the emergency room with life threatening injuries and the doctor says"I don't know anything about treating your injuries, but I don't need to know anything", you're going to die. Physically die, to match the brain death you long ago succumbed to.

What could I possibly have in common with a 20 year old Colombian girl? Now if you knew both of us, or really anything, you would think we have many possible things in common. Of course that assumes you would suddenly begin to think.

Let's start with music, something most Colombians love. What music does she enjoy? How does that match with my music? Turns out, there's a good intersection. At first I was playing Colombian music which I didn't like because I thought she would like it. She changed it to Colombian music I liked. Then she surprised me by playing and singing Bohemian Rhapsody. Later I started putting on stuff to see if she liked it. The Manhattan Transfer album Brasil was very well received. There were several others.

Movies are a good subject and what young woman doesn't like a good movie? In this area, we were almost 100% in agreement. I pulled up movies from long before her time as well as current hits and she loved them all. Some that she particularly enjoyed were: "Iron Will", "Batteries not Included", "Ready Player One", along with all of the Blade movies. We probably watched 50 movies together and only 1 bored her. It bored me as well. It seemed much better 30 years ago.

On the subject of movies, Netflix and Disney+ are your best choices. All the stuff on Disney can be played with Spanish audio and English subtitles, or vice versa. Everything on Netflix can have Spanish subtitles, plus there's a good selection of Spanish movies and series. For a girl with decent English reading skills Vudu / Fandango has practically everything with English subtitles.

Animated movies, superhero movies and vampire movies were all popular with her, as well as sentimental ones.

What else is there? Food? On this one I blew her away. I introduced her to foods you can't get in Medellin and she loved it. The only thing she was lukewarm on was sashimi. She liked the taste, but not the texture. , although she was fine with all the sushi.

Her top favorite was Thai food. Unlike many Colombians she likes a bit of spice. There were too many things to list, but there were 2 surprises. Bread and butter pickles, she went crazy for. So crazy that I brought her a jar for Christmas and she insisted that everyone try them. She also loved fried dill pickles.

What more is there? Art? Check. Games? Check. Cooking? Check. Love of animals? Check. Social causes? Check. Political views? Check? Helping others? Check. Religious views we differ on, but it's not a huge split. In that area, she and I are closer than I am with any of my family.

Is there anything else? The reason we first began talking more seriously was because I knew where she lived, or knew the area. She grew up a 10 minute walk away from where I lived in Poblado. I had literally walked past her front door dozens of times. Chances are we passed each other on the street 2 or 3 years before we met.

Thinking about it all, I probably have as much or more in common with her than with any of my previous long-term relationships. Most of those were based on our desire to fuck and we made do with everything else.

So what should I call her? Every day I wake up to find a message from her and she checks in with me at least 3 or 4 times daily. She's always sending pictures of what she's doing, pictures with different friends or family members, or her pets. She asks for my advice and opinions and shows concern when I have problems.

For my part, I mostly give her space. I don't make demands, don't try to control her and I treat her with respect. There have been a few problems, but we've worked through them. Sometimes I make her laugh, sometimes I make her horny. Granted, I'm the breadwinner, but that's been the case with every previous relationship.

So, now that you have all that information, what should I call her? Sugar Baby won't work, because that's an arrangement based on sex. We have sex, but it's not a requirement. Give me a word that you feel I should use to refer to her, then explain why that's better than just saying "girlfriend. ".

Maybe I could just call her my Betty. Instead of saying "my girlfriend said the police arrested a gringo who raped 2 girls", I could say "My Betty said. " Of course then everyone would ask who was "My Betty" and why do I call her that? Is she a good cook? Does she look like Betty White? Is she black and did she have a child that went wild?

Then I would have to explain "Mami'sBoy refuses to allow me to refer to my girlfriend as my girlfriend without clogging up the forum with a bunch of whining, so I have to call her my Betty and clog up the forum with a bunch of unnecessary explanations. ".

Sounds good?

The girl who I refer to as my girlfriend, pending guidance from Mami'sBoy on the proper term for a girl involved with me in ways he knows nothing about, sent me a picture today. She had run into her best friend from high school at the University. I've talked a lot with the girl, although we've never met.

Thinking about the 2 of them, I realized something. Both of them are certifiably, undeniably elite. Not in the sense of the most beautiful women in the world, not for immense family wealth or spectacular academic achievements, but in the category of belonging to elite groups through personal achievement.

Before I explain their elite status, there's a backstory that explains the birth of Elvis's "elite" harem. Time to fire up the way back machine.

Elvis first introduced himself to the Colombia forums over 3 years ago, with the sad tale of his Venezuelan ex. He moved her and her parents to Peru, set them all up and then learned his true love no longer had any use for him. Unfortunately, I had just donated my entire collection of sympathy for excessive naivete to Goodwill and had only mockery to aid him in his time of despair. Thus began our battle.

Fast forward to the beginning of the pandemic. While Elvis was jumping onto every inconceivable conspiracy theory about Covid, I was considering changing my approach to Medellin (without neglecting my Elvis mockery).

Facebook had grown a bit stale. I was bored with "cuando nos vemos" and "quiero verte. ". I wanted conversations that didn't mention condoms. It didn't matter if I found working girls or regular girls, but I didn't want to start with the expectation of p4 p sex.

Whether it was good timing, or good luck, I found what I was looking for, girls I could just talk to, and get to know before deciding if we wanted to meet. Some were undoubtedly working girls, but I wasn't approaching them like a customer, so they didn't act like hookers. Others were definitely not interested in p4 p, but were open to meeting. In a few weeks I had 20 or more Whatsapp numbers and began choosing my favorites. Eventually I selected 7 as my targets. The first 6 were my girlfriend, pending, nevermind, her sister, the girlfriend's friend and 3 of her sister's friends. Number 7 had no connection to the others.

To break up the monotony of Blakman's cheap, popcorn eating, table dancing, Mileroticos girls and Slapshot's jacuzzi threesomes, I wrote about my possible new options. To date I've met 5 of the 7. By the time I posted about them, 5 were sending me videos. My girlfriend and 1 of her sister's friends were the only exceptions. That girl is uncrackable. I've met her, she's gorgeous, but she's not that kind of girl.

Although I don't recall my names for all of them, 2 I can't forget. The first was girl number 7, the model. If you knew the Facebook girl Mariana Penagos before the boob job, #7 was comparable, before her boob job. The other girl I named was the cheerleader, my girlfriend (or not girlfriend).

Within a few days of my post clearing the censors, Elvis was posting about his elite harem. Previously his girls had been beautiful, slightly better girls. Overnight they became supermodels and beauty queens. Keep in mind, at that time I hadn't met any of the girls, although I felt I could get 6 of them in my bed. I still feel I could achieve that goal, if it still mattered to me, but I'm content with where I'm at.

Maybe the ascension of Elvis to the ultimate elite girl level was just a coincidence, or maybe he felt it was time to stop being so modest. It doesn't matter.

Now that you're bored to death I'll explain my elite girlfriend and her elite friend.

Both girls have a US B1/ B2 visa. This is a combination business and tourist visa. It's granted for things like business conferences, exhibitions or to participate in sporting events. So how do 2 teens from Medellin get such a visa?

Let's start with the friend. She's a volleyball player. She's a good enough player to make it on a team which competed internationally, including in the US. How many Colombians can make that claim? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but in sports you don't make it to the top if you don't win.

Finally we get to the girl of undefined status who I call my girlfriend. Care to guess how she got her visa? Pat yourself on the back if you said it has something to do with why I called her the cheerleader, in Spanish "porrista. " I was surprised to learn that cheerleading is a big deal in Colombia. If you go to estadio you'll find many teams practicing. When she was 16, she wad chosen to to be one of Colombia's representatives for international competition. Her team made it to the finals in Orlando. They didn't win.

Once again, only a select few make it to that level each year and it's something that can only be achieved through years of dedication and practice. What's more elite than being one of the best cheerleaders in Colombia?

Now to the most important part. None of that matters. We don't sit around talking about cheerleading. She's never done the splits for me (except for 1 short video). She's never even put on her cheerleader outfit for me (hmmm). The flexibility has come into play, but it's not crucial.

My conquest of her didn't require anything special. I doubt if it will be mentioned in my obituary. Nobody has asked me to do a Ted talk. Even Hollywood isn't calling for the movie rights. It all happened through a series of coincidences. No competition, no game. Shit, there's still no competition.

Just one quick thing I forgot. Although physical fitness is required, competitive cheerleading isn't based on beauty. Makeup artists and hair stylists amplify what's there.

If you have a cheerleader fantasy, it might seem incredible. It isn't. Finding an escort who was a cheerleader shouldn't be difficult. And chances are her cheerleader outfit will be a lot sexier.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2787397]Says who? I liked a girl just fine, thought she was GF material and then learned she was an alcoholic and then no more. You can learn more or less about something all the time. This is the stupidest thing I have heard.

Then you give this example of a girl who liked you. Great.

So when a woman likes me, it is for money but when a woman likes you, it is because of you. LOL. God, you are such a blowhard.[/QUOTE]I give up on you learning to read and comprehend. Somehow your comprehension always ends up way different from what the person wrote.

Why are the Medellin threads always filled with constant arguing? I mean, why are you wasting your time arguing with strangers on a forum meant to help others?

The Bogota threads actually have advice that you don't need to scroll through pages to find. Like I wouldn't have tried SA if it wasn't for guys like Elvis recommending it in Bogota and I used it again to great success in Medellin. So much so that I returned to Bogota a month after my first trip and I'm returning to Medellin this Friday after my first trip in December.

[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2787472]But like I just mentioned in a comment I just posted about how the older guys tend to put in more work with these girls, I'm sure I could learn a thing or two from older gents like yourself, after all you should have more experience.[/QUOTE]OMG. Say it ain't so. Let me give you a civilized approach to your question about health then. As for your health question, the answer is that people have a limited amount of willpower in their life. Let me put it this way. Why were you 235 pounds to begin with? And now that you are 180, are you sure you are going to stay there because I am sure whatever happened in you life that got you to 235 will happen again, and my guess is you will be even heavier next time.

And as far as being fit, that just gets you in the door. I was married and seeing SBs having a great time doing so for years while the single guys suffered. Those fools were spending thousands on looking good versus just paying women directly like I was. So I hang out with my single guy friends one night, and there is like a 7 and a 8 or 9 sitting with them. The women mentioned they hang out with the San Antonio Spurs when they are in town. I was shocked and thought "You two?

One friend said that every decent looking woman has been with a pro athlete. I never thought to ask my sugar babies about interactions with themselves and athletes and was stunned at how many they had. Point is while you are all happy with your body, any decent looking woman can get a guy with a better body than yours and probably has already had more than one.

I argue with people when think I am right, but I am not personally cocky about myself. So when I learned this, I was like, "Well, WTF are you doing with me then?" The simple answer is money, but it is more than that. For example, one dancer was sitting with some roided out baseball player at a club. His at bat is being shown on ESPN and he roughly grabs the girl by the face, points it at the TV, and says "Look, I am on TV. ".

When I was with a different SB, she and a friend went through all the guys on a football team and said who they would go out with. I was thinking they would die to be with any of them. Nope, and they rejected most of the guys. Yes, they picked the ones out who had more money and looks and race was an issue too, but I was shocked at how well they knew the character of the players.

With a gal like mine, she could give a shit about men and their muscles outside of a fling. I did not know about my gal's daughter when I went out with her in the beginning and she was sizing me up. Her #1 concern and the concern of most single mothers is the safety of their children. You want a single mom long term that is how you get them.

When I sat back and listened to Colombian women, which so few guys do, I cannot recall meeting one woman I gave a shit about who was not all about her family.

Like I said, most guys strive to be like Gaston from Beauty and the Beast and tell women what they should like instead of listening to what is important to them. The difference with me is I fucking listen.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2787620]Maybe the ascension of Elvis to the ultimate elite girl level was just a coincidence, or maybe he felt it was time to stop being so modest. It doesn't matter.[/QUOTE]As Paulie said, I think you write these War and Peace novels that no one reads to revisit history to recount that you won when you lost.

As for elite, the only thing I mentioned that when guys are looking for a long term relationship even a sugar baby, guys should focus on the higher classes. The poor or those who come from a poor culture have no concept of long term.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2787620]Now that you're bored to death I'll explain my elite girlfriend and her elite friend.[/QUOTE]Nobody cares. I did not set out to find elite dummy. I went for good looking and good in bed. I have had better in bed initially and better looking in Colombia than my current woman. For guys into the one nighters, which is most, they should ignore what I say.

You ex was not your GF. She was a sugar baby. She was cute and upper middle class. The whole elite thing came up because you assholes tried to knock my gal down. Now you are trying to bring your ex SB up. All this and all the other shit shows how insecure you all are.

What guys should learn from my situation is that the USA pushes the oneitis thing like crazy. Fuck that. You do not really know what you want in a woman. Once you have had your fill of strange that will get disappointing, build a harem. Learn what you like and do not like.

If you are a half way nice guy, pleasant company, and dependable on paying out, you are going to get finer women than you have ever dreamed of. Got that? With sugar babies, it was not that I was so great, it is that other guys acted like such idiots. Women did not mind spending time with me and often enjoyed themselves. Yeah, it was really that fucking simple.

When I lost a woman when I was younger, I would say, "I will never find someone as good as her again" and was wrong. There was always a better next one. But when you have a huge sample, when you say, "I will never find someone as good as her again", it probably will be true. IMO it is only then a guy should really even consider to committing to anything.

Paulie told me a lot about you, Lebron, but the one I can share here is you cannot shut up and need to be the center of attention. Well, that may attract a woman early on, but after a while, that gets old, and she tunes you out and what happens then? You move onto the next one who thinks you are great until she gets bored / annoyed with you. Rinse and repeat.

So instead of saying I can have an elite 10 like Elvis, you should be saying I do not want one woman. I want and need a harem. You are not happy until you have it better than the next guy but there is always going to be a next guy who has better.

You see? I know what makes you happy better than you do, and that is why you are a fucking loser. You still have not figured out what makes you happy at age 60.

I was talking with a family member who's almost 60 and I asked her what does she think when she sees a 60 yr old man with a 20 yr old women?

She told me she just feels bad for the girl because she has to put up with that old man's smell for the money LMAO.

I said how so? And she explained to me how it doesn't matter how many products you use on your skin, when you age there's no way to avoid the ph levels in your skin. I said what do you think about men who think women prefer them over younger guys, she laughed and said they are delusional.

[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2787745]I was talking with a family member who's almost 60 and I asked her what does she think when she sees a 60 yr old man with a 20 yr old women?

She told me she just feels bad for the girl because she has to put up with that old man's smell for the money LMAO.

I said how so? And she explained to me how it doesn't matter how many products you use on your skin, when you age there's no way to avoid the ph levels in your skin. I said what do you think about men who think women prefer them over younger guys, she laughed and said they are delusional.[/QUOTE]I don't think your "almost" 60 year old family member is being dishonest with you. (But you know her better than anyone here). BUT she may be expressing an opinion that is based on her life experience and the cultural norms of where she has spent her life.

If there is one thing that I routinely see here in Colombia, it is Americans who expect their values are universal and anyone who thinks or acts differently is odd / strange / wierd etc etc etc.

In Latin America there is a machismo mindset that still exists today. It was pretty universal in the US until the 70's /80's. Let me give you an example. Years ago in anticipation of retirement I started taking Spanish lessons from a well known professor here in Medellin. She told me she graduated from a University with a degree in Engineering. She said she finished 2nd in her class of 35 (I'm generally remembering what she told me). Well the job offers came piling in and she was offered a position with a salary commensurate with the lowest male graduate in her class. She was furious and pursued a career in teaching languages (English to Spanish speakers, Spanish to English speakers and Portuguese to either group).

Women are urged to be very receptive to older successful men. Why? Because it is a cultural norm that dates back many centuries. Even in a world where women are granted much more latitude in their career options. Machismo still dominates. I have gone out to restaurants with many younger women (20's-30's) and I never get as much as a raised eyebrow. One reason may be that my companions have been very judicious in their choice of clothing. If she is dressed provocatively like a street-walker we are absolutely not going out anywhere.

BTW I see many young attractive women eating with Colombian men who are clearly older. That too draws no attention. Many young women are taught to choose a companion who is successful and who can help the family when needed. The thing about older men having a smell is patently ridiculous. There is a modern invention that takes care of that. It is called soap and water.

So just to summarize. If you think that being in your mid to late 30's gives you a big advantage in dating women here, well, not so much. The big factor that will really differentiates someone younger versus someone like me is that I live here. Dating someone who is here for two weeks and then gone makes it a more transactional process.

[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2787745]I was talking with a family member who's almost 60 and I asked her what does she think when she sees a 60 yr old man with a 20 yr old women?

She told me she just feels bad for the girl because she has to put up with that old man's smell for the money LMAO.

I said how so? And she explained to me how it doesn't matter how many products you use on your skin, when you age there's no way to avoid the ph levels in your skin. I said what do you think about men who think women prefer them over younger guys, she laughed and said they are delusional.[/QUOTE]Why not ask your family member who fit that description? You always seem to ask the question that you can find answer easily.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2787664]I give up on you learning to read and comprehend. Somehow your comprehension always ends up way different from what the person wrote.[/QUOTE]I understand perfectly what you said. You thought I was stupidly throwing my time and money at women who were completely uninterested in me. Or did I miss something?

And when I said it costs money to get a 10, I meant subscribing to seeking, buying drinks, staying in nice places, buying and wearing suits. So it is your comprehension that is off.

And when I said it takes time, that means sending PMs back and forth with women, going on bad dates, getting ripped off, getting stood up. The work is having to kiss a lot of frogs before you find a princess, but it is obvious that is not something you do. You are happy with the frogs.

I wrote something and you took the most negative interpretation of it possible. That is nothing new. Your comprehension is the one that is off.

[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2787745]I was talking with a family member who's almost 60 and I asked her what does she think when she sees a 60 yr old man with a 20 yr old women?

She told me she just feels bad for the girl because she has to put up with that old man's smell for the money LMAO.

I said how so? And she explained to me how it doesn't matter how many products you use on your skin, when you age there's no way to avoid the ph levels in your skin. I said what do you think about men who think women prefer them over younger guys, she laughed and said they are delusional.[/QUOTE]Anthony, what do you think the women say to us about guys your age? Do you think they say, "Well, we settle for you because we cannot get younger."

They tell us you are video game playing, lazy, overly sensitive, insecure, cheap, possessive immature twerps.

Do you know how many times I have had sex with a woman and had her young loser boyfriend text or call me? "She is my girlfriend. She is not fucking other guys. Stay away from her. She does not want you to call her" after she just got done sucking my dick? Plenty.

But it is no surprise that you hear only what you want.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2787948]Anthony, what do you think the women say to us about guys your age? Do you think they say, "Well, we settle for you because we cannot get younger."

They tell us you are video game playing, lazy, overly sensitive, insecure, cheap, possessive immature twerps.

Do you know how many times I have had sex with a woman and had her young loser boyfriend text or call me? "She is my girlfriend. She is not fucking other guys. Stay away from her. She does not want you to call her" after she just got done sucking my dick? Plenty.

But it is no surprise that you hear only what you want.[/QUOTE]Elvis. Elvis. Elvis. Oh man I can see why so many pick on you, everytime you comment you say some really dumb irrelevant comments. From beauty and the beast to video game playing, are you drunk when you post?

Anyways cool story bro, that's great those are your observations but like many have told you not everything applies according to you. I don't even remember the last time I played a video game, heck I wish I had the time and patience to play video games.

[QUOTE=VoodooJones;2787674]Why are the Medellin threads always filled with constant arguing? I mean, why are you wasting your time arguing with strangers on a forum meant to help others?

The Bogota threads actually have advice that you don't need to scroll through pages to find. Like I wouldn't have tried SA if it wasn't for guys like Elvis recommending it in Bogota and I used it again to great success in Medellin. So much so that I returned to Bogota a month after my first trip and I'm returning to Medellin this Friday after my first trip in December.[/QUOTE]I agree it's pathetic to see, I guess it's true what they say about older people starting to behave like a babies, worse than housewives gossiping, I thought I would see more people sharing useful information.

[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2787745]I was talking with a family member who's almost 60 and I asked her what does she think when she sees a 60 yr old man with a 20 yr old women?

She told me she just feels bad for the girl because she has to put up with that old man's smell for the money LMAO.

I said how so? And she explained to me how it doesn't matter how many products you use on your skin, when you age there's no way to avoid the ph levels in your skin. I said what do you think about men who think women prefer them over younger guys, she laughed and said they are delusional.[/QUOTE]Ah. So you actually believed that as men age, just touching their skin will burn young people? You do understand pH right? Does it become more acidic, or basic? Do we need to use lye, or hydrochloric acid to prevent our bodies from dissolving?

Now try this one. Get 2 pictures to show your chemist family member. 1 is an aging actor. 70-75 years old. The other of a young actor, 20-25 years old. Make sure both pictures are similar. No shirts. What's her reaction?

[QUOTE=Villainy;2787791]I don't think your "almost" 60 year old family member is being dishonest with you. (But you know her better than anyone here). BUT she may be expressing an opinion that is based on her life experience and the cultural norms of where she has spent her life.

If there is one thing that I routinely see here in Colombia, it is Americans who expect their values are universal and anyone who thinks or acts differently is odd / strange / wierd etc etc etc.

In Latin America there is a machismo mindset that still exists today. It was pretty universal in the US until the 70's /80's. Let me give you an example. Years ago in anticipation of retirement I started taking Spanish lessons from a well known professor here in Medellin. She told me she graduated from a University with a degree in Engineering. She said she finished 2nd in her class of 35 (I'm generally remembering what she told me). Well the job offers came piling in and she was offered a position with a salary commensurate with the lowest male graduate in her class. She was furious and pursued a career in teaching languages (English to Spanish speakers, Spanish to English speakers and Portuguese to either group).

Women are urged to be very receptive to older successful men. Why? Because it is a cultural norm that dates back many centuries. Even in a world where women are granted much more latitude in their career options. Machismo still dominates. I have gone out to restaurants with many younger women (20's-30's) and I never get as much as a raised eyebrow. One reason may be that my companions have been very judicious in their choice of clothing. If she is dressed provocatively like a street-walker we are absolutely not going out anywhere.

BTW I see many young attractive women eating with Colombian men who are clearly older. That too draws no attention. Many young women are taught to choose a companion who is successful and who can help the family when needed. The thing about older men having a smell is patently ridiculous. There is a modern invention that takes care of that. It is called soap and water.

So just to summarize. If you think that being in your mid to late 30's gives you a big advantage in dating women here, well, not so much. The big factor that will really differentiates someone younger versus someone like me is that I live here. Dating someone who is here for two weeks and then gone makes it a more transactional process.[/QUOTE]When I was with the cam studio the owner and her boyfriend took me and my roommate out to eat. A mid 50's man (me), mid 30's man and 2 mid 20's women. This happened once per month. Without fail the waiter would bring me the check, even though the other guy was the one calling over the waiter, placing orders, obviously in charge of the group. It's just the way the culture works.

Of course he forgot to make his questioning fair. Why didn't he ask her what she thinks about him flying to different countries to fuck impoverished prostitutes? Where's her reaction to that one? Why not ask her if the prostitutes he sees are just seeing him because he's only 15 years older than them? Or does it have something to do with the money?

And the ultimate question. Ask her, if she was going to pay someone for sex, would she pay an 80 year old man, or a 40 year old man?

If nothing else, should make Thanksgiving dinner interesting.