Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2429108]So what excuse did Ken Lay and Bernie Madoff have?[/QUOTE]LOL genius level response.

[QUOTE=Zhagolo52;2428809]By airlines refusing you to boarding if you are obviously sick, which they totally can do. Just hasn't gotten there yet in Colombia. Is starting to happen in Asia and Middle east and some cities in EU.

.[/QUOTE]In Colombia it is more likely that they will want you out of the country.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2429148]In Colombia it is more likely that they will want you out of the country.[/QUOTE]Which means you'll end up in quarantine somewhere else.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2429108]So what excuse did Ken Lay and Bernie Madoff have?[/QUOTE]Obviously there are different personalities that are more or less honest. But if you look at the group as a whole I think we can all agree that the number of scammers is higher than the general population. There are certain other forces at work. I do think there are many and poverty is just one. As I said; I am staying far away from the girl in my multi-part post.

[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2429182]I am staying far away from the girl in my multi-part post.[/QUOTE]But she owes you a cita. Why not let her do it on the strict understanding that there is no more money until the following time?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2429103]Maybe I don't understand what you mean...[/QUOTE]We are are all trying to experience life. We seek pleasure and avoid pain. As we move higher on the pyramid we look for more self-actualization and we want things that have more meaning for us. What we got before is not enough now. To obtain truly unique experiences, sometimes that means that we can ignore the scam and chase the thing we want.

I think I have a better chance of finding what I want if I develop a don't care attitude to being scammed in certain instances. Some times it pays off and sometimes not.

Money is more dear for some than others. Just as the poor girl will seek to lay her hands on money through scamming, there are mongers who cannot accept paying more than the lowest price for something.

The girl in my multi-part post was charging me more for just about everything. I knew it, but I ignored it. But in the end I got what I wanted. A memory of a unique girl, unique sex act and a unique church key to remind me.

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2429184]But she owes you a cita. Why not let her do it on the strict understanding that there is no more money until the following time?[/QUOTE]There is no controlling the experience with her. I am thinking she would not be offering to meet me if she didn't have a plan. I don't have any idea what her plan is. But I know it involves my money. It would likely be minimum a waste of time.

It will be very dead, most chicas spend time with family.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2429077]I ll be traveling to Medellin during Holy Week. How dead will Medellin be during April 9th through the 11th, that Thursday through Saturday? Will girls be around Parque Lleras, Will casas and strip clubs be open? Bars and clubs open? If so will they be dead? Anyone who could offer some intel / advice on best way to mongering and party during that weekend would be greatly appreciated![/QUOTE].

Hotel Zona A very close to Park Lleras appears to be girl-friendly.

The hotel policy does not address any fees for guests. Furthermore, in the comments section, someone complained about the noise.

From a guest's room that picked up a street girl.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2429077]I ll be traveling to Medellin during Holy Week. How dead will Medellin be during April 9th through the 11th, that Thursday through Saturday? Will girls be around Parque Lleras, Will casas and strip clubs be open? Bars and clubs open? If so will they be dead? Anyone who could offer some intel / advice on best way to mongering and party during that weekend would be greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]I've been in MDE a few times for Holy Week. The first half of the week will be fine. But starting Wednesday, things will dry up dramatically. If you know girls from previous encounters, you can probably arrange something quick with them. But if you don't have contacts, you'll likely have a hard time finding something.

[QUOTE=Combo;2429235]I've been in MDE a few times for Holy Week. The first half of the week will be fine. But starting Wednesday, things will dry up dramatically. If you know girls from previous encounters, you can probably arrange something quick with them. But if you don't have contacts, you'll likely have a hard time finding something.[/QUOTE]What day will it start to get busy again? Will all bars and clubs in Parque Lleras be closed? Gustos? Would suck to lose out on a whole weekend!

[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2429182]Obviously there are different personalities that are more or less honest. But if you look at the group as a whole I think we can all agree that the number of scammers is higher than the general population. There are certain other forces at work. I do think there are many and poverty is just one. As I said; I am staying far away from the girl in my multi-part post.[/QUOTE]Nah brother. Someone's economic level has zero to do with how honest they are. Liars and scammers are liars and scammers and can be found in all walks of life. Preachers, doctors, lawyers, record execs, welfare queens. The only force at work is the character of the person.

Don't advocate putting up with anyone trying to rip you off because you feel sorry about them being poor. It is like the saying fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, then I need my head examined for staying around you after the first time. You don't just keep entertaining the shit like you think it is cute.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2429251]Nah brother. Someone's economic level has zero to do with how honest they are. Liars and scammers are liars and scammers and can be found in all walks of life. Preachers, doctors, lawyers, record execs, welfare queens. The only force at work is the character of the person.

Don't advocate putting up with anyone trying to rip you off because you feel sorry about them being poor. It is like the saying fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, then I need my head examined for staying around you after the first time. You don't just keep entertaining the shit like you think it is cute.[/QUOTE]I guess this is similar to the Republican / Liberal divide. One side is all about religion, self-sufficiency and zero tolerance. The other side is about compassion, understanding different points of view and tolerance. I like my world view and you like yours.

[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2429187]We are are all trying to experience life. We seek pleasure and avoid pain. As we move higher on the pyramid we look for more self-actualization and we want things that have more meaning for us. What we got before is not enough now. To obtain truly unique experiences, sometimes that means that we can ignore the scam and chase the thing we want.

I think I have a better chance of finding what I want if I develop a don't care attitude to being scammed in certain instances. Some times it pays off and sometimes not.

Money is more dear for some than others. Just as the poor girl will seek to lay her hands on money through scamming, there are mongers who cannot accept paying more than the lowest price for something.

The girl in my multi-part post was charging me more for just about everything. I knew it, but I ignored it. But in the end I got what I wanted. A memory of a unique girl, unique sex act and a unique church key to remind me.[/QUOTE]There's only one problem with your approach, specifically in Colombia. It can get you dead.

I'm not one to fearmonger. However, I was somewhat surprised your episode did not end up with you being drugged and robbed.

You can stumble into an unique sexual experience, or you can plan it and seek it. There's something to be said for spontaneity and the lure of the unexpected, but with a Dom / sub situation you're much safer with planning and preparation.

While I don't know of any women who provide domination services, considering the number of submissive girls and bondage girls, I'm sure you can find one.

[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2429304]I guess this is similar to the Republican / Liberal divide. One side is all about religion, self-sufficiency and zero tolerance. The other side is about compassion, understanding different points of view and tolerance. I like my world view and you like yours.[/QUOTE]I would consider myself more Libertarian than anything, but definitely hold progressive, liberal views, as well as fiscally conservative views. I think the Republican / Democratic divide is complete nonsense. Both sides are full of shit and are corrupt. Behind closed doors, they are elites and do what is best for them, neither party gives a fuck about us.

Anyway, I'm extremely tolerant of many things in life, but I am not tolerant of scammers, con artists, and liars. Allowing that kind of person into your life is not only damaging to your mind and wallet, but it also means you don't know where to draw a line or have healthy boundaries regarding what you consider to be acceptable behavior. You're basically a doormat and are convincing yourself you are helping someone to feel better about being taken for a fool.

I can send you my bank account if you'd like to send me a few hundred every month and I can send you some google images of babies if it makes you feel better.

[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2429304]I guess this is similar to the Republican / Liberal divide. One side is all about religion, self-sufficiency and zero tolerance. The other side is about compassion, understanding different points of view and tolerance. I like my world view and you like yours.[/QUOTE]I really liked your posts and could up to a certain point understood where you were coming from. You spoiled it all by bringing up politics.

Let me coin a new abbreviation. BHL bleeding heart liberal.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2429321]I really liked your posts and could up to a certain point understood where you were coming from. You spoiled it all by bringing up politics.

Let me coin a new abbreviation. BHL bleeding heart liberal.[/QUOTE]You are right. I shouldn't have said Republican / Liberal. Hot button terms. I should have said Literalist / Romantic.

I choose to see the world in more romantic terms. Hence my login: Loverboy. Mr. E. And many others will choose to see the world in more stark terms. Clearly they will not be fans of Monger Romance novels. But let's see how they do on Amazon one day.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2429317]I would consider myself more Libertarian than anything, but definitely hold progressive, liberal views, as well as fiscally conservative views. I think the Republican / Democratic divide is complete nonsense. Both sides are full of shit and are corrupt. Behind closed doors, they are elites and do what is best for them, neither party gives a fuck about us.

Anyway, I'm extremely tolerant of many things in life, but I am not tolerant of scammers, con artists, and liars. Allowing that kind of person into your life is not only damaging to your mind and wallet, but it also means you don't know where to draw a line or have healthy boundaries regarding what you consider to be acceptable behavior. You're basically a doormat and are convincing yourself you are helping someone to feel better about being taken for a fool.

I can send you my bank account if you'd like to send me a few hundred every month and I can send you some google images of babies if it makes you feel better.[/QUOTE]I have a better idea. Buy my novels on Amazon one day. Thank you all for your attention. This has been a valuable experiment for me.

I don't understand these posts I'm reading today. You have members bragging about how they are being scammed, but don't care and keep giving their money away. Don't you guys realize when you send money to people you are probably one of many that are sending them money. They make more money than you. You should only give these girls money when they spend time with you. Never send money when your back home. These girls are laughing at how dumb you are. They sit on their ass and collect thousands a month to do nothing.

If I have a good time with a girl and I know she has a kid to take care of, I tip a little extra to help out, but it's in the context of a sexual relationship. Last time I was in Medellin I hooked up with a 19 yo from a casa. She came to my hotel back to back nights, and we had a great time. I knew she was poor and I tipped her an extra 50 k pesos which is about 15 dollars. She can buy some diapers and baby food with that. She didn't ask me for extra money, but I knew that 15 bucks would help her a lot. But Under no circumstances am I going to send her hundred of dollars a month from the US.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2429251]Nah brother. Someone's economic level has zero to do with how honest they are. Liars and scammers are liars and scammers and can be found in all walks of life. Preachers, doctors, lawyers, record execs, welfare queens. The only force at work is the character of the person.[/QUOTE]The only difference is the amount of money they want.

[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2429304]I guess this is similar to the Republican / Liberal divide. One side is all about religion, self-sufficiency and zero tolerance. The other side is about compassion, understanding different points of view and tolerance. I like my world view and you like yours.[/QUOTE]Not really that much of a divide. Most people are somewhere between -- ie. A moderate blend of the two extremes. Fox / CNN make it seem like everyone is exclusively one or the other.

[QUOTE=Combo;2429362]Not really that much of a divide. Most people are somewhere between -- ie. A moderate blend of the two extremes. Fox / CNN make it seem like everyone is exclusively one or the other.[/QUOTE]I did say "Similar" to the political divide. But obviously I shouldn't have mentioned it in any context. I should have focused on the way people take in information about the world and the people in it. Although even this invites controversy.

Some people are able to look at life from other people's point of view. They can imagine people having a different background, culture, life pressures and motivations, etc. They can see how this creates a complex decision process for each individual. In this environment "good" and "bad" actions are much more difficult to identify because they are based on this complex internal world. Inner worlds are changed by assimilation of new information and can produce different reactions to the same stimulus.

Others are locked into the world created by their own five senses. What they see, hear, feel, taste and smell are the same things that others are also sensing. For them there is only stimulus and reaction. The reaction should flow straight from the stimulus. There are easily seen "good" and "bad" reactions to a set stimulus because the decision process is outwardly focused. In this case the person is immutable. They are either good or bad; producing good or bad reactions.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2429247]What day will it start to get busy again? Will all bars and clubs in Parque Lleras be closed? Gustos? Would suck to lose out on a whole weekend![/QUOTE]Litterally the whole week. Holy week is THE WORST TIME TO BE IN MEDELLIN!.

Not only are all the massage places, closed but also the love hotels, the brothels and EVERYONE leaves to go into the country with their familes. Also they stop selling alcoohl on the weekends as welll. It fucking sucks. Stay clear.

[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2429329]I choose to see the world in more romantic terms. Hence my login: Loverboy. Mr. E. And many others will choose to see the world in more stark terms.[/QUOTE]I come from the streets, so I do not find it at all intriguing, mystical, or romantic for someone to be trying to rip me off.

A little over 6 months ago I ran into a guy in the Lowes parking lot near my house. He said he was an Army veteran (showed me his DD-214 discharge papers). He was down on his luck and needed money for a weekly motel him and his wife were staying in. He even called the motel and the desk clerk confirmed it. I gave the guy $40 and thanked him for serving. Well about 3 weeks ago I saw him in a Kroger parking lot doing the same shit. I hung out at my car a while hoping he would come over and not remember me. After a few minutes he did not come so I left. The other day I was thinking that the next time I see his ass begging in a parking lot he will be giving me my $40 back with interest. My empathy only shows for those that are honestly trying to help themselves.

[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2429375]I did say "Similar" to the political divide. But obviously I shouldn't have mentioned it in any context. I should have focused on the way people take in information about the world and the people in it. Although even this invites controversy.

Some people are able to look at life from other people's point of view. They can imagine people having a different background, culture, life pressures and motivations, etc. They can see how this creates a complex decision process for each individual. In this environment "good" and "bad" actions are much more difficult to identify because they are based on this complex internal world. Inner worlds are changed by assimilation of new information and can produce different reactions to the same stimulus.

Others are locked into the world created by their own five senses. What they see, hear, feel, taste and smell are the same things that others are also sensing. For them there is only stimulus and reaction. The reaction should flow straight from the stimulus. There are easily seen "good" and "bad" reactions to a set stimulus because the decision process is outwardly focused. In this case the person is immutable. They are either good or bad; producing good or bad reactions.[/QUOTE]

Science works similarly. You can't tell who is locked. The only reason you can do what you do in what you wrote is because the expense is nothing to you. Would you play the same game that is going to cost far more?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2429396]I come from the streets, so I do not find it at all intriguing, mystical, or romantic for someone to be trying to rip me off.[/QUOTE]Hence my statement. Some will not have the same money freedom or privilege as I. It is understandable that you have a different outlook on life.

I often think about the children of rich men. They have the expectation to be rich. If they are not rich then they will do whatever it takes to be rich. On the other hand the child of a government worker will rise to the level of government worker and then be content; not needing to rise further. A child of the streets will similarly expect to struggle for money and once obtained a level of expected wealth, will seek to fight to maintain it.

Can you see that I view money differently than you? My life has never been one of lack. If I run low on money I know that a minimal effort will right the balance. I will not worry about $100 ever. It is like a monopoly game to me. I expect to have money and I have it. You expect to fight for money and you fight. It is all down to our expectations.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2429379]Litterally the whole week. Holy week is THE WORST TIME TO BE IN MEDELLIN!.

Not only are all the massage places, closed but also the love hotels, the brothels and EVERYONE leaves to go into the country with their familes. Also they stop selling alcoohl on the weekends as welll. It fucking sucks. Stay clear.[/QUOTE]Fuck! My only vacation I get and I don't want to waste it in the states beating off like a coward when I could be slaying latinas for chump change. Any advice on shit to do those first few days in Medellin during holy week? Could I call putas off milerticos or get dates off online? I know you said its going to be dead, but I already booked a flight a few weeks ago and if I can at least just pick up a good looking street walker for a few nights it would be worth it. So I am guessing there will be no street action in Parque Lleras or Plaza Botero either?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2429396]I come from the streets, so I do not find it at all intriguing, mystical, or romantic for someone to be trying to rip me off.

A little over 6 months ago I ran into a guy in the Lowes parking lot near my house. He said he was an Army veteran (showed me his DD-214 discharge papers). He was down on his luck and needed money for a weekly motel him and his wife were staying in. He even called the motel and the desk clerk confirmed it. I gave the guy $40 and thanked him for serving. Well about 3 weeks ago I saw him in a Kroger parking lot doing the same shit. I hung out at my car a while hoping he would come over and not remember me. After a few minutes he did not come so I left. The other day I was thinking that the next time I see his ass begging in a parking lot he will be giving me my $40 back with interest. My empathy only shows for those that are honestly trying to help themselves.[/QUOTE]By the way, I served in the military with the 3/12 Cav during the Cold War. These guys that stayed in the military have not much to show for it. They risked their lives in defense of the country. Some went on to serve in desert storm and other hot wars. These guys aren't college material in many many cases. When they get out they might be on SSI disability due to injuries on the tank. Or they might be working at other low tech jobs. I don't care if they are begging in parking lots. They deserve gratitude and not derision.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2429430]Fuck! My only vacation I get and I don't want to waste it in the states beating off like a coward when I could be slaying latinas for chump change. Any advice on shit to do those first few days in Medellin during holy week? Could I call putas off milerticos or get dates off online? I know you said its going to be dead, but I already booked a flight a few weeks ago and if I can at least just pick up a good looking street walker for a few nights it would be worth it. So I am guessing there will be no street action in Parque Lleras or Plaza Botero either?[/QUOTE]There will be options available. The pickings will be slim, but you can find girls. If you're locked in, make the best of it.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2429080]Does anyone has any suggestions on the quickest way to learn Spanish? I just want to learn enough to be able to talk to girls without constantly using google translate. I live in the US, but I come to Medellin often, is it possible to find a hot college girl who teaches Spanish and working at the same time?[/QUOTE]There's no quick way. Read The Slight Edge by Jeff Olsen. He talks about how doing something small every day (something that doesn't tax your time and energy too much daily) will build up and give dividends before you know it.

The first thing I'd recommend, though, is to download Anki, a free open source flashcard program, and start adding sentences and words to it. Buy the Frequency book on Spanish which has the top most used 5000 words. When you're at the start of the journey, you don't want to waste time learning less used words.

Listen to youtube channels, like Why Not Spanish, Dreaming in Spanish, Butterfly Spanish (cute little Mexican girl, in a next-door-girl kind of a way). There is also Marie Espanol. Also search for Duo Lingo podcast (not the duo lingo Spanish software. It's a little silly and makes you think you're making progress). The Duo Lingo podcast, on the other hand, are stories told by native Spanish speakers, spoken in intermediate speed, so you have a half way chance of following along. And they provide the transcripts, so you can look at it while listening.

If you want to spend money, buy Rocket Spanish program. I bought the third level (last level) because I had already gained a lot of progress, but you might start the first level. Great program, but a little expensive at 150 a level.

Takes time. But so fucking worth it.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2429430]Fuck! My only vacation I get and I don't want to waste it in the states beating off like a coward when I could be slaying latinas for chump change. Any advice on shit to do those first few days in Medellin during holy week? Could I call putas off milerticos or get dates off online? I know you said its going to be dead, but I already booked a flight a few weeks ago and if I can at least just pick up a good looking street walker for a few nights it would be worth it. So I am guessing there will be no street action in Parque Lleras or Plaza Botero either?[/QUOTE]Trust me, I will have a few chics PM me for your type & contact information. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=SJobs;2429080]Does anyone has any suggestions on the quickest way to learn Spanish? I just want to learn enough to be able to talk to girls without constantly using google translate. I live in the US, but I come to Medellin often, is it possible to find a hot college girl who teaches Spanish and working at the same time?[/QUOTE]As for apps, Duolingo is the best app I have found. It has a free version and an paid that works offline. It is designed for anyone (any idiot like me) it builds you up slowly from simple to complex sentences. Because Spanish and English pronounce vowels and some consonants differently, and because Spanish has some diphthong vowel sounds we don't have etc, trying to memorize written words is useless if you do not know the pronunciation. Duolingo is an app that will pronounce it for you and give you practice pronouncing also by you speaking into the app. Then there is the conjugation of verbs in spanish, once you get the hang of the vowel sounds, and as you come across new verbs you may want to download some conjugation charts off the web so you can memorize the different conjugations. Duolingo is going to go through them but I find it handy to also have the charts. Then use your time in Medellin to practice, I guarantee that once you get a good start on the app and then start practicing in Medellin, every chica you spend time with will be your spanish teacher. I have been doing Duolingo for a few months now, I am by no means fluent, but when in Medellin the chicas do not hesitate to correct me and help me out. I started doing the French on Duolingo first and did a sizable amount of the French but once I jumped over yo the Spanish than it seemed easy after trying the French.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2429334]I don't understand these posts I'm reading today. You have members bragging about how they are being scammed, but don't care and keep giving their money away. Don't you guys realize when you send money to people you are probably one of many that are sending them money. They make more money than you. You should only give these girls money when they spend time with you. Never send money when your back home. These girls are laughing at how dumb you are. They sit on their ass and collect thousands a month to do nothing.

If I have a good time with a girl and I know she has a kid to take care of, I tip a little extra to help out, but it's in the context of a sexual relationship. Last time I was in Medellin I hooked up with a 19 yo from a casa. She came to my hotel back to back nights, and we had a great time. I knew she was poor and I tipped her an extra 50 k pesos which is about 15 dollars. She can buy some diapers and baby food with that. She didn't ask me for extra money, but I knew that 15 bucks would help her a lot. But Under no circumstances am I going to send her hundred of dollars a month from the US.[/QUOTE]My bad. I just get bored with the same old "no relationship" stuff. I do plenty of the short time stuff too though so I will write about that stuff here and leave out the other.

Did I tell you guys about my last day in Medellin? I was planning on maybe hitting a Casa in the morning before my flight, but I ended up making the rounds on Calle 52. So I see this group of girls standing on the corner and there is this blond standing with her back to me wearing these "Daisy Duke" shorts. As I am walking by she sees me checking her out and flags me down. She is really cute, slim and attractive.

While I am talking with her the girl I have been with twice before comes up and interjects herself in my negotiations with the blond. My regular is a classic Medellin beauty and we have hit it off pretty well in the past. Well I don't really want to drop the blond though. So I kind of give her a shrug "uh sorry, oh well. ".

But my regular says "why not both, the blond is my good friend. " I am thinking "well I did have a good time with this girl and the blond is pretty hot, so why not. " We agreed on 100 k each for an hour. I know, maybe too high for a Centro girl and I had no idea if this was going to be a great threesome.

We went to the hotel (don't remember which one but it was on 52) and I paid for an hour. Nice room with porn on the television. There were two girls on the porn channel kissing so I pointed it out to my two girls and that's all they needed to start making out themselves. So these girls really were good friends and somehow I had just fallen into the first truly bi-threesome of my life. We actually ended up staying for two hours.

I love Medellin!

[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2429600]My bad. I just get bored with the same old "no relationship" stuff.[/QUOTE]So why not get a normal girlfriend for that? Why would you go to a fast food restaurant trying to get a home-cooked meal.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2429106]Up early again and had signed up for the free walking tour from Real City Tours of El Centro yesterday. It starts at 10:25 am but decided to show up early as they request it too. The 20 min Uber from Lleras is $2. 30, not worth the metro hassle to me.

The tour starts a few minutes later as they do multiple groups and they had enough people to send us out. We start at about 10:15 am. The tour is extremely informative, not just places but the overall history of Colombia. I highly recommend it because not only did I learn a ton and found it very interesting, it gave me a deeper understanding of the people, culture and why things are the way they are. On top of that, I had a good sense of El Centro, where things were, how to get around. The tour lasted about 3. 5 hours and it is expected to give a tip between 20 k and 50 k. I gave 40 k. More than worth it to learn, see the sights, the major landmarks and know my way around. If you have a good sense of direction, after this tour, you will not need to take your phone out to know where you are..[/QUOTE]I have been in Laureles 4 days. Perfectly located. Many cases 2 minutes away. Entertained one. But my success is with tinder girls. Wanted to know what time to travel to Lleras park and you gave me the answer. Thanks man. Also was interested in accounts of centro and thanks for your piece of advice or story.

Did nothing all day. Need to catch up on rest and wanted to stay out late on Saturday night thinking it would be the best night of the week.

I did walk around Lleras and Provenza for an hour or so just to check them out during the day. I really like this area. There is lots of food, bars, young people, everything is clean and modern. It reminds me of Brooklyn a bit. I had a macchiato at Pergamino. Amazing coffee. I used to own a coffee shop and seriously, amazing coffee and the barista clearly knows what she was doing. Very impressed.

Well around 8 pm I decide to not go out and make a date with one of the chicas I met last night in the park. We confirm for 10 pm, 2 hours, 2 pops, oral natural completo for 250 k. At 10:05 pm I ask if she is close, she says Si. At 10:17 p I ask Donde eres? And she says "Amor, muy cerca" and I ask how many minutes, at 10:21, she responds and says 10 minutos.

At this point I'm already getting dressed to go out. At 10:45 p, I'm ready to head out and tell her I'm leaving and that its not okay to be 45 minutes late and to tell me 3 times you are close when you are not close. She blames it on the taxi being lost but I sent her a pin of the location, so I tell her this and say I don't have a good feeling about spending time together now because the truth is better and she should have told me what was going on. She apologies and sends sad faces and that she doesn't want me to feel that way and she really wants to meet. I say sorry, I already left.

Head down to Lleras. Lleras was noticeably less empty than Friday night with a lot more trannies. Unexpected. They are also annoying as fuck. I hang out for 2 hours til about 1 am and see nothing I'm interested in, not even close, total bust. I hit up a chica from photoprepagos I've been talking to who looks slammin. She says she can be to my place in 20 minutes and I say if not, I'm going to bed. 1. 5 hours, 2 pops, oral natural completo for 300 k. More than I wanted to pay but whatever, at this point I want to release.

She shows up on time which is great and she is gorgeous, good start. Kind of goes down hill from there. Her ad was one of the "we can do any position, garganta profunda, best oral of your life" types, so I have high expectations. Her BJ is like a 1, maybe even a 0 LOL. I think a dog would use less teeth giving a blowjob.

She uses her breasts and mouth and goes back and forth like that and I finish in her mouth but she pulls away half way through, wack, even though we specifically agreed that was okay to do. We chill and chat for ten minutes and go to round two. She does that shit with her legs in missionary where she keeps me from going all the way in, so annoying. Then a bit of that bad odor starts to come up and I can't take it. I take the condom off and jerk off onto her tits. That was the best part of the whole experience. She's super cute so its a real shame her service is trash.

I read a lot of reviews on Catador about many photoprepagos and milerotics girls (she is listed on all these sites under Angela) and it seems real hit or miss. So I knew going in that I was taking a risk but was willing to give the online sites one more shot.

Well two out of two have been mediocre and more or less not worth it. With the other options available, DEFINITELY not worth it. Good to know, won't use the sites again. I'the be pissed if I was only here for a like a week but I still have 16 more days. Chalk it up to a learning experience and still got to nut all over her. Looks like the zinc and lecithin and a one day break actually does work.

Two out of two facebook contacts have been absolutely amazing experiences, not one complaint and exceeded all expectations. I didn't make a facebook date tonight thinking it was Saturday and there must be great talent out, NOPE. From now on I don't care what day it is, Facebook only. Inexpensive lesson in my eyes.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2429699]...At this point I'm already getting dressed to go out. At 10:45 p, I'm ready to head out and tell her I'm leaving and that its not okay to be 45 minutes late and to tell me 3 times you are close when you are not close.

...Well two out of two have been mediocre and more or less not worth it. With the other options available, DEFINITELY not worth it. Good to know, won't use the sites again. I'the be pissed if I was only here for a like a week but I still have 16 more days. Chalk it up to a learning experience and still got to nut all over her. Looks like the zinc and lecithin and a one day break actually does work.

Two out of two facebook contacts have been absolutely amazing experiences, not one complaint and exceeded all expectations. I didn't make a facebook date tonight thinking it was Saturday and there must be great talent out, NOPE. From now on I don't care what day it is, Facebook only. Inexpensive lesson in my eyes.[/QUOTE]Excellent report! Good for you to give her a time limit, and to act on it. Too bad the FL scene did not work for you. I am an FB only monger.

Sunday, expecting another slow day. I went over to the Mercado de Campesino's to see what that was about. Found a honey producer and picked two honeys that I liked a lot. I got large jars and the price was very good for the quantity and quality. Had two beef empanadas that were also delicious and guarapo. Hang out there for an hour just people watching.

Walk over to Exito and pick up some more grocery items for the house and then Uber back home. I start sending out some messages. I have two chicas I've been talking to for months before arriving that I was under the impression are not working girls. There was no indication and the conversations were not sexualized at all. I wanted to have a few citas before seeing them to kind of, get that out of my system before investing time into real dating. I hit up two working girls and Mariana. I didn't hear back from the WG's but Mariana texted me back not too long after. Chit chat for a bit and decide to go to dinner. She picks Delirio in Laureles. Never heard of it but the menu looks good so I agree. She's concerned she doesn't have enough money to get to me, and I tell her of course I am paying, it is my invitation. Now, her social media is extremely private and she has very few photos, so even though I have seen some angles of her, I don't have a complete idea of what she looks like, but my social media is the same, so we're in the same boat.

She shows up a little late to my place, expected, steps out of the taxi and I am floored. This girl is a fucking beautiful. A little shorter than expected but a good surprise as she is my perfect height. I thought she was the same height as me, but she's about 3" shorter. Dressed kind of sexy casual. Flawless skin. Incredible facial features, intoxicating eyes, unreal smile, picture perfect teeth. I'm beside myself.

We head over to Laureles from Poblado, arrive to the restaurant and get seated on the second floor overlooking the street in Laureles. Delirio is a solid date spot, beautiful decor and environment, good service and the food was great. Half our conversation is spoken and the other half using translate. I understand most of what she is saying but have a hard time speaking Spanish and answering her questions in detail. She's very accommodating and is happy to help or correct me. She also wants to learn English so she gets it. Lots of cool aspects of her personality that compliment mine and we get along very well. We both just feel comfortable with each other. The conversation goes pretty deep for the first time meeting, but keep in mind we have talked for probably 3 months, a good amount, before I even arrived.

We each had a drink, two appetizers, and an entree each. More food than we could finish and tip included, the bill was still only $40. God, I love Medellin. This meal would have been $140 in SF Bay. Her uber to me from Itagui, then an Uber to Laureles, and then the reverse, so 4 ubers of more than an hour of driving was still only $15, for all 4 trips.

We just about close down the restaurant and I ask if she wants to come back to my place, it's only 10 pm. She did say earlier in the day that it is Sunday and she doesn't want to stay out too late, and I'm feeling the same as I was pretty tired, but she agrees to come hang out for a little longer. We hang out on the balcony, with an awesome view of Medellin, and the moon was out and clear, and just talked for another hour before she called a car back home. Walk her downstairs, kiss goodbye, and agree to see each other the next day. Definitely the best date I have had in, shit, 3 years?

While I most definitely want to sleep with this woman, I am glad it didn't progress to that, or turn out that she is a working girl and she asks for money. I genuinely like who she is and am excited to see where it goes. I had zero expectations of finding a girlfriend situation here, as I'm very content being single right now, but she really fits everything I would look for if I wanted to date exclusively, so I will continue to entertain this and see where it goes. I'm not going to turn down this potentially amazing opportunity that has presented itself.

Side note: I am doing everything I want here, eating out, not holding back for anything, as many citas as I can take, only using Uber, and I'm still spending half of what I expected, I plan on being very often, potentially even half the year. I've traveled extensively and I think the value for your dollar is the best here of anywhere I have been. I have been to Nepal and Bali etc where things are cheaper, but the quality is also lower which is why I say the Value is the best, it is not the cheapest of anywhere, but Medellin offers the quality I want, in food, women, convenience, familiar grocery items, the things I would need in a place to want to live there, for an incredibly low cost.

[QUOTE=Njoean197;2429430]Fuck! My only vacation I get and I don't want to waste it in the states beating off like a coward when I could be slaying latinas for chump change. Any advice on shit to do those first few days in Medellin during holy week? Could I call putas off milerticos or get dates off online? I know you said its going to be dead, but I already booked a flight a few weeks ago and if I can at least just pick up a good looking street walker for a few nights it would be worth it. So I am guessing there will be no street action in Parque Lleras or Plaza Botero either?[/QUOTE]Good Friday thru Easter Sunday are going to be pretty much "dead" when it comes to the Colombian Chicas, forget Parque Lleras, however El Centro will be overflowing with Venezuelans, so don't despair because the Venezuelans are hard core and desperate, and out as early as 8 AM, at least I have seen some working that early, so look at that specific weekend as where you will find something.

Keep in mind that most of the "locals" who go with these girls, will probably be at home, and you will probably have the "pick of the liter" from the Venezuelans who are out working. If I am around then, I will be out fishing for sure.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2429619]So why not get a normal girlfriend for that? Why would you go to a fast food restaurant trying to get a home-cooked meal.[/QUOTE]I am working on charity or business ideas or helping the kids, not a girlfriend. I have zero romantic interest in the two families I help. One family I am running a sari sari store with. They report the income and expenses to me and I do the accounting. There is more to life than just sex. Sorry, I know there are many that will disagree with that!

I bought the land and built the store for them and now we are just starting to run the store but I have known her and her family for years. Last month was a bit of a loss for the business but I think it's in a good location and will do well. I told her I was going to cover the loss and she objected saying I should keep my money. I just invested in some plastic chairs and a few wooden tables today and was rewarded with pictures of the neighbors sitting in them and eating halo halo.

I understand that some ISGers (all?) subscribe to the philosophy that if you give money to a prostitute you are being an idiot. But Prostitutes (and former Prostitutes) are just people. I will say it again guys: these are just people you are exchanging money for sex with. I am sure (some) of you guys are more than just "disgusting johns". If you have the money you can do more in life than just bang chicks.

[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2429717]I am working on charity or business ideas or helping the kids, not a girlfriend. I have zero romantic interest in the two families I help. One family I am running a sari sari store with. They report the income and expenses to me and I do the accounting. There is more to life than just sex. Sorry, I know there are many that will disagree with that!

I bought the land and built the store for them and now we are just starting to run the store but I have known her and her family for years. Last month was a bit of a loss for the business but I think it's in a good location and will do well. I told her I was going to cover the loss and she objected saying I should keep my money. I just invested in some plastic chairs and a few wooden tables today and was rewarded with pictures of the neighbors sitting in them and eating halo halo.

I understand that some ISGers (all?) subscribe to the philosophy that if you give money to a prostitute you are being an idiot. But Prostitutes (and former Prostitutes) are just people. I will say it again guys: these are just people you are exchanging money for sex with. I am sure (some) of you guys are more than just "disgusting johns". If you have the money you can do more in life than just bang chicks.[/QUOTE]I have the money. You're the one making all these idiotic assumptions about if you have money, we would do what you do, but since we aren't paying for the Sunday Asado's for some random former prostitute and her entire neighborhood, we must not have the money. Really, this is the most stupid shit I have ever heard. I'm sure there are plenty of wealthy people here.

You can read my reports and see I treat these women well, and they end up staying for twice as long as agreed. We have a genuinely fun time, but it ends there, until the next time we hang out, in person. I do not discount the fact that they are just people and I treat them just like that. But I still have personal boundaries.

Look, half my passive income gets re-invested as it is tax sheltered. The other half is for spending. Living here in Medellin, being absolutely insane with spending, I couldn't even spend a quarter of that discretionary amount. So there's extra money every direction you look. I have categories 1. Re-investment 2. Discretionary spending (mostly travel, restaurants, women) 3. Charity of my choice, I have a few I like and know well.

I do not have a category for supporting former prostitutes that have lied to me. I do not care to spend my time building businesses that may or may not work. Its not the money man, its the time and effort, that shit you cannot get back. A photo of some random people I do not know eating food on plastic chairs does not make me feel better about myself. I don't get this. Your intentions are good but the way you go about them is totally wacked out to me.

The more I read your posts and especially about the 3-some in El Centro, I'm getting the feeling that all of this is completely made up, and if it is, I don't get what you are doing here. This forum is to provide value for those who are looking to visit Medellin and learn, and you're not providing that.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2429731]The more I read your posts and especially about the 3-some in El Centro, I'm getting the feeling that all of this is completely made up, and if it is, I don't get what you are doing here. This forum is to provide value for those who are looking to visit Medellin and learn, and you're not providing that.[/QUOTE]I assure you I am not making up anything. You can read my posts from other locations. I get it. ISG has a different purpose. I was just answering Mr E's question.

To answer your post I would offer this. Life is a complex mystery to me. When I am interested in something I explore all aspects of it. Everything. And I am missing a few emotional attachments in my life as far as the kids are concerned. I also want to explode some of the myths and taboos surrounding prostitution. I am interested in business since I have a BSBAM degree but never have run a business. It's so cheap to run a business in the Philippines so why not.

Self actualization: the realization or fulfillment of one's talents and potentialities, especially considered as a drive or need present in everyone. This tendency might be phrased as the desire to become more and more what one is, to become everything that one is capable of becoming. ".

I am not responsible for you, what you spend your money on and who you want to be. Why does it upset you when I do it?

[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2429740]

I am not responsible for you, what you spend your money on and who you want to be. Why does it upset you when I do it?[/QUOTE]Of course you are welcome to do as you please and while I may not agree, if it is what you want to be doing, by all means, do it. It does bother me when someone is being taken advantage of and your beginning posts were clear that was what was going on. Then it escalated into you supporting women and sending them money each month. This had my alarm bells going off. It seems you know full well what's going on and do it anyway, so, have fun I guess. It wouldn't be for me, but don't let that diminish it for you.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2429742]Of course you are welcome to do as you please and while I may not agree, if it is what you want to be doing, by all means, do it. It does bother me when someone is being taken advantage of and your beginning posts were clear that was what was going on. Then it escalated into you supporting women and sending them money each month. This had my alarm bells going off. It seems you know full well what's going on and do it anyway, so, have fun I guess. It wouldn't be for me, but don't let that diminish it for you.[/QUOTE]Just my observation, I think LB is doing it not expecting anything in return so that is different from the usual scenarios.

I completely agree with you about lying.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2429716]Good Friday thru Easter Sunday are going to be pretty much "dead" when it comes to the Colombian Chicas, forget Parque Lleras, however El Centro will be overflowing with Venezuelans, so don't despair because the Venezuelans are hard core and desperate, and out as early as 8 AM, at least I have seen some working that early, so look at that specific weekend as where you will find something.

Keep in mind that most of the "locals" who go with these girls, will probably be at home, and you will probably have the "pick of the liter" from the Venezuelans who are out working. If I am around then, I will be out fishing for sure.[/QUOTE]Hmmmm el Centro will probably be a ghost town on Thursday and Friday.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2429770]Just my observation, I think LB is doing it not expecting anything in return so that is different from the usual scenarios.

I completely agree with you about lying.[/QUOTE]Whatever. I guess I don't care what complete strangers think. But nobody likes being called a liar.

With that I am going to ignore this forum a while. I am going to the Philippines in May. Mexico in June. Philippines again in September. And Panama in October. Look for my posts in those threads.

To steal a little from another member-.

LoverBoy is out!

[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2429781]With that I am going to ignore this forum a while. I am going to the Philippines in May. Mexico in June. Philippines again in September. And Panama in October. Look for my posts in those threads.[/QUOTE]I am in PI now. You want me to swing by to make sure they really bought chairs and tables and not just posed with somebody else's?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2429786]I am in PI now. You want me to swing by to make sure they really bought chairs and tables and not just posed with somebody else's?[/QUOTE]It's in Floridablanca so it is a little out of the way. They have a small farm there. Actually the only two times I have been there a driver who knows the family took me there. I plan on going to see the business in May if the Coronavirus doesn't cancel my trip. Thanks for the offer. I know it was made in the spirit of best intentions.

[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2429779]Whatever. I guess I don't care what complete strangers think. But nobody likes being called a liar.[/QUOTE]I guess you think everyone is out to attack you. There is nowhere in the post I quoted mention it. I agree with what AS said about people who lie. I am not saying you are lying at all.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2429778]Hmmmm el Centro will probably be a ghost town on Thursday and Friday.[/QUOTE]What I do know is that the Venezuelans are so desperate that they will be out there working. They have nothing else to do in that they are in Medellin to make money to send back home. I will be in town on those days, and will report back on what I notice, and yes El Centro will be shut down, but there will still be Venezuelans working.

[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2429781]With that I am going to ignore this forum a while.

LoverBoy is out![/QUOTE]That is probably a good idea, LB.

[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2424035]Now that I got. Working phone I used it to track down a Scotiabank Colapatria ATM to withdraw money. I have a Capital One checking account that doesn't charge international fees etc. And the Scotiabank doesn't charge fees either. Exchange rate: 3385.113.[/QUOTE]Mind if I ask you what app you used to locate that ATM?

Hats off to you buddy. Totally agree with you. There's more to life. Loved your Maslow reference.

[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2429329]You are right. I shouldn't have said Republican / Liberal. Hot button terms. I should have said Literalist / Romantic.

I choose to see the world in more romantic terms. Hence my login: Loverboy. Mr. E. And many others will choose to see the world in more stark terms. Clearly they will not be fans of Monger Romance novels. But let's see how they do on Amazon one day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2429808]What I do know is that the Venezuelans are so desperate that they will be out there working. They have nothing else to do in that they are in Medellin to make money to send back home. I will be in town on those days, and will report back on what I notice, and yes El Centro will be shut down, but there will still be Venezuelans working.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'm sure you're right, there will be some desperate Vennies out.

A couple years ago on Holy Thursday and Friday, el Centro was dead, absolutely nobody except the Zombies out.

I avoid looking for girls those days and hang with known amiguitas.

This year I’ll be chillin in Rio, Brazil. 🇧🇷 😎

[QUOTE=KetoAndKettle;2429855]Mind if I ask you what app you used to locate that ATM?[/QUOTE]Just use Google maps. If you're looking for a specific bank, type in the name. If you're just looking for ATMs you can search for either ATM or Cajero.

I made a date with a chica for 6:30 telling her to message me at 5:45 to confirm she is ready to leave. She does and I give her my address. At 6:20 she messages me to say she finally got a taxi and is on the way. She is 30 minutes away. At 6:50 I ask her to send me her location so I can see where she is. She is still home. I tell her not to come and not to message me again, that I can not trust her. 20 minutes later I get a message from her she is in the taxi 10 minutes away. I tell her to turn around. Then we go through the usually appolgy and begging. She then begs for me to at least pay her taxi. I tell her I am no longer home and blocker her. I tell her not to 'treat the next gringo like an idiot'. Guys here will tell me this is comon. It is comon because Gringos are idiots who let the girls do this to them all the time and wait however long. Gentlemen don't be that idot! I had another girl linds up before she was in her taxi.

On another note, people are getting nervous about the Corona Virus here. There was panic shopping in the markets last weekend even though no reported cases yet in Colombia. With all the tourists here, I'm sure it is here and like Washington state will just take a few weeks to show up. I'm thinking of cutting my month long trip short, I do not want to end up in quarentine somewhere or even worse (though it is unlikely) in a Colombian ICU. Yes I know unlikley scenarios but still many girls to shag and I'm not taking any chances.

[QUOTE=KetoAndKettle;2429855]Mind if I ask you what app you used to locate that ATM?[/QUOTE]I looked up addresses online in advance on the bank website and also closely studied google maps in the area to identify the ATMs. Following that I added the locations to a copy of google maps; my maps. They are stored on google drive.

By using google map; my map you can even create an literary and routes to follow. Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2429925]By using google map; my map you can even create an literary and routes to follow. Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]Itinerary and routes. I really like that you can create a plan for each day. Actually you can copy the google my map available on the forum as a starting point and then modify it to add ATMs and routes.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2429913] On another note, people are getting nervous about the Corona Virus here. There was panic shopping in the markets last weekend even though no reported cases yet in Colombia. With all the tourists here, I'm sure it is here and like Washington state will just take a few weeks to show up. I'm thinking of cutting my month long trip short, I do not want to end up in quarentine somewhere or even worse (though it is unlikely) in a Colombian ICU. Yes I know unlikley scenarios but still many girls to shag and I'm not taking any chances.[/QUOTE]It may be the other way around in that the Colombian Government today announced enhanced screening for the Counties most affected by the Coronavirus including the USA entering the Country.

So until the virus shows up in Colombia it will be easier to leave the Country versus coming into it. So I would not cut your trip short just yet unless all of a sudden there are a bunch of cases putting Colombia on a "no fly list".

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2429913]I made a date with a chica for 6:30 telling her to message me at 5:45 to confirm she is ready to leave. She does and I give her my address. At 6:20 she messages me to say she finally got a taxi and is on the way. She is 30 minutes away. At 6:50 I ask her to send me her location so I can see where she is. She is still home. I tell her not to come and not to message me again, that I can not trust her. 20 minutes later I get a message from her she is in the taxi 10 minutes away. I tell her to turn around. Then we go through the usually appolgy and begging. She then begs for me to at least pay her taxi. I tell her I am no longer home and blocker her. I tell her not to 'treat the next gringo like an idiot'. Guys here will tell me this is comon. It is comon because Gringos are idiots who let the girls do this to them all the time and wait however long. Gentlemen don't be that idot! I had another girl linds up before she was in her taxi.

On another note, people are getting nervous about the Corona Virus here. There was panic shopping in the markets last weekend even though no reported cases yet in Colombia. With all the tourists here, I'm sure it is here and like Washington state will just take a few weeks to show up. I'm thinking of cutting my month long trip short, I do not want to end up in quarentine somewhere or even worse (though it is unlikely) in a Colombian ICU. Yes I know unlikley scenarios but still many girls to shag and I'm not taking any chances.[/QUOTE]Had the same thing happen and did not see the chica. I give a 30 minute window cause I understand things happen but if they haven't even left yet, that's a no go.

I just was at Exito yesterday and everything was totally stocked as normal. But I agree with you that with so many tourists, it is most definitely already here, as I am under the impression it is everywhere at this point honestly. I have two weeks left and am hoping I can finish it out and not leave early but am open to that as a necessary possibility as I have the same concerns.

[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2429930]Itinerary and routes. I really like that you can create a plan for each day. Actually you can copy the google my map available on the forum as a starting point and then modify it to add ATMs and routes.[/QUOTE]Bring a copy of passport and driver's license. A snap. Extra tip. Before you come buy enough Colombian money at the bank to pay the white public service taxi and to last getting to th international bank. No fee charge. But united states bank might hit you up with a loss. That's why just get enough to last til you hit international bank. On another not yellow taxis are fine. It's just a extra dollar cause meter starts at 3600.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2429913]I made a date with a chica for 6:30 telling her to message me at 5:45 to confirm she is ready to leave. She does and I give her my address. At 6:20 she messages me to say she finally got a taxi and is on the way. She is 30 minutes away. At 6:50 I ask her to send me her location so I can see where she is. because Gringos are idiots who let the girls do this to them all the time and wait however long. Gentlemen don't be that idot! I had another girl linds up before she was in her taxi.

With all the tourists here, I'm sure it is here and like Washington state will just take a few weeks to show up. I'm thinking of cutting my month long trip short, I do not want to end up in quarentine somewhere or even worse (though it is unlikely) in a Colombian ICU. Yes I know unlikley scenarios but still many girls to shag and I'm not taking any chances.[/QUOTE]And you say you gave her a whole 20 minutes before you. What do you think happen next, think she got on the Medellin wide prepago group message and spread the word that "these gringos and mad as hell and they aren't going to take it anymore" and every chica in the city decided to fall into line and be on time. If you had seriously read this forum you would know that there are many guys on this forum who have logged many trips over many years in that city, and will tell you time and time again that these chicas have a whole different perception of timing than we do. Promptness is not valued by them. Would I get frustrated if a chica is late, yes, but I also know to expect it. I get frustrated when it gets cold in the winter too, but I expect it. It is not because of idiot gringos, it is the nature of things. She does not live by the same standards of timing because it is not in her to, she most likely thinks that you are just unreasonably impatient. I learned quickly that these chicas lives are not structured in the least, they are more like a tumbleweed caught in a hurricane as JjBee62 describes below. By proving you could cause her to spend money she probably didn't have, all you proved was you could cause her to spend money she did not have. Maybe I am an idiot gringo but I don't think I can change the lifestyle and habits of a bello chica anymore than my last girlfriend who thought she could change me. Could change me.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2423602]If I want her there by 3, I'm telling her 2. If you know the rules of the game, use them to your advantage. If she's someone I have experience with, I'll cut her some slack. Things happen.

From my end, I'm sitting around picking out a woman to fuck me. From her end? She needs someone to watch the kids. Her hair needs washed. The clothes she wants to wear are dirty and she needs to pick out something else. The friend who'll watch the kids is cooking dinner and needs 15 more minutes, but takes 30, then her boyfriend shows up and she can't. Now she needs to find someone else. She needs someone to loan her 20 k for the taxi. She needs to walk 6 blocks to find a taxi. There's a wreck on the autopista.

After doing all that and spending the 20 k, she has to figure out how to get back to Bello with no money? And what do I get out of it? The satisfaction of spitting on a poor person?

I'm on vacation. I'm drinking cheap beer, eating cheap food and fucking young, beautiful women for less than I spend on a good steak dinner. Why create stress with artificial deadlines? Why punish myself, to flex my muscles at someone? Sure. I taught her a lesson. Now I get to go pick out someone else, wait 2 hours and maybe turn her away too. I could end up wasting 6 hours before having to resort to a trip to a strip club to get what I had knocking at my door.

Some girls lie about being on the way. They need the money and don't want to miss out. Frankly, most are terrible at time management. Their lives are a never ending train wreck, stumbling from one problem to the next.

Instead of screwing them and screwing myself (by turning away the woman who wants to screw me), I try to avoid the problem.

Tell her ahead of time that you need her to be on time. Give her enough time to deal with her home situation. Ask if she's certain she can be on time. "A las 3 o es 4 mejor para ti?" Let her know to keep you updated if any problems come up. Ask where she's coming from. Remind her about the traffic. Give her the opportunity to put it off until tomorrow.

Clearly she's someone you want to fuck, otherwise you wouldn't be talking with her. Find a way to make it happen.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2430010]If you had seriously read this forum you would know that there are many guys on this forum who have logged many trips over many years in that city, and will tell you time and time again that these chicas have a whole different perception of timing than we do. Promptness is not valued by them. Would I get frustrated if a chica is late, yes, but I also know to expect it. I get frustrated when it gets cold in the winter too, but I expect it.[/QUOTE]If you do not teach them then they will never learn. You can change someone's way of thinking, but you can't change the weather. You don't think that if not anything else but having to pay that wasted taxi so many times they would learn to be on time? I do. If a chick makes me waste my money I can always get more of that, but if a chick makes me waste my time then I am just ass out on that front. They will learn to be on time when it starts costing them money as in his case.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2429913]I made a date with a chica for 6:30 telling her to message me at 5:45 to confirm she is ready to leave. She does and I give her my address. At 6:20 she messages me to say she finally got a taxi and is on the way. She is 30 minutes away. At 6:50 I ask her to send me her location so I can see where she is. She is still home. I tell her not to come and not to message me again, that I can not trust her. 20 minutes later I get a message from her she is in the taxi 10 minutes away. I tell her to turn around. Then we go through the usually appolgy and begging. She then begs for me to at least pay her taxi. I tell her I am no longer home and blocker her. I tell her not to 'treat the next gringo like an idiot'. Guys here will tell me this is comon. It is comon because Gringos are idiots who let the girls do this to them all the time and wait however long. Gentlemen don't be that idot! I had another girl linds up before she was in her taxi.

.............[/QUOTE]I totally accept this approach. Too many mongers allow shit from the girls leading them to totally have no respect for mongers. The more mongers do like you the less these girls will give us BS. It appears that mongers believe that they must take BS to empty their balls, I disagree; I think my money is good enough.

My definition of Heaven: two 18-year-old smoking hot FB girls from 2 pm until 11:30 pm, Gusto from 12:00 am until 4 am (Thursday. Saturday), another threesome with two 18-year-old FB from 4 - 10 am. What's above heaven? A legit message from a super hot Paisa between 11 am and 2 pm.

Thank you, Jjbee and GeneHackman, for the excellent recommendation of legit massage place in Poblado. As promised, I'm reporting back on my experience in Centro Comercial areío Sur.

To be honest, I had my reservations about massage parlors in Medellin. Latinos are not known to give good messages; furthermore, given that I'm from the you. S, I always have this tinted image of a 40-year-old butt ugly Asian lady who offers an OK massage for 65 dollars an hour and demands a 25 dollar tip. To put things in perspective, in the you. S, if those grandmas in the typical massage parlor are willing to give me 200 dollars so they can give me a handjob, I will turn them down immediately. So far, Medellin has surprised me in every way, so I looked forward to trying the legit massage place.

The areío Sur building is packed with beauty salons and massage palors. The first floor is under renovation right now; you have to walk up to the second floor to take the elevator up to higher levels. A massage place called "El Garage Spa 4 man" is on the third floor, "Om Spa for Man" on the fourth floor, and both Zen and Dharma are on the fifth floor. I have tried all of them, sometimes multiple rounds per day. They are about the same in both concept and style. Based on my experience, Garage has the best decor, and Zen has the prettiest girls. Here is my typical experience:

I walk in with google translate, explain to them I need a strong massage. The girl at the front desk will take me into one of the rooms, and ask me to take off all my clothes. She will offer to bring me a drink; the drink selections are whiskey, wine, beer, and water. I always pick whiskey. At Garage, they pour the whiskey over a shaved spherical ice, which is a nice touch. The facility is clean and comfortable; they always dim the light in the room and light up a candle or two. As I strip down naked, lying face down on the massage table, my masseuse will show up with my whiskey. It is a bit awkward trying to drink the whiskey while naked on a massage table.

After I had my drink of whiskey, my masseuse will proceed with a very decent massage. Most of them give a high-quality massage, definitely not as good as the ones you can find in Thailand or Malaysia. Still, it is a very relaxing and enjoyable experience. All of them tried to give me a happy ending, and some practically begged me to do it.

What made the whole experience divine are the girls! The average look of the girls in Zen must be a Medellin 7; I had a few Medellin 9's wanting to give me a handjob. Despite the number of other options I have in Medellin, I always hopelessly agree. The girls in most of the massage places in the areío Sur building are on the older side, from the mid-20's to mid-40's. However, 60% of them are very hot! They can easily top a super hot girl in a typical strip joint in the USA Even the older masseuse in their 30's and 40's are beautiful. While giving me the handjob, most of them will strip down to their panties, and offer DFK. They let me suck on their tits and squeeze their pussy while worshiping my cock. Hell, most of my massage experience in Rio Sur surpasses the average encounter in the casa Energy.

A one-hour massage cost about 100-120 k, handjob cost another 50 k. It is a bit pricy by Medellin standard, given that I can get an 18-year-old FB girl for 2-3 hours for 200 k, but the experience is worth it. I also tried the four-hand massage in Om; 180 is the base price, I didn't take the four-hand handjob offer, I don't think it is worth it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2430017]If you do not teach them then they will never learn. You can change someone's way of thinking, but you can't change the weather. You don't think that if not anything else but having to pay that wasted taxi so many times they would learn to be on time? I do. If a chick makes me waste my money I can always get more of that, but if a chick makes me waste my time then I am just ass out on that front. They will learn to be on time when it starts costing them money as in his case.[/QUOTE]But they won't learn. It would be great if they did, but it's simply not going to happen. Each instructor I had at EAFIT, for my Spanish classes, joked repeatedly about the Paisa lack of time sense. One, who was originally from Bogota, showed up late one day and made a comment about becoming a Paisa.

This has been their way of life since before they could walk. A few hundred gringos aren't going to change the habits of a few thousand chicas.

I tried it, not only with a few chicas, but with all of the webcam models. All I accomplished was to raise my stress level.

Instead, I changed my attitude. Certainly, the situation is different for the guys who need to nail 4 chicas every day. They're on a tight schedule. They've got deadlines to meet. I can't bear to think of the catastrophe if they only get in 3 girls one day.

Me? I'm on vacation. My only deadline is the time on my ticket home. I've got 15-16 hours each day available. Why spend half my time fretting over something I can't change? I work around their schedule, instead of trying to force them to follow mine. I also, if there's any doubt, pick a place where I can relax and enjoy myself while waiting.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2430039]I totally accept this approach. Too many mongers allow shit from the girls leading them to totally have no respect for mongers. The more mongers do like you the less these girls will give us BS. It appears that mongers believe that they must take BS to empty their balls, I disagree; I think my money is good enough.[/QUOTE]Do you honestly believe that's how you earn respect? For anyone who served in the military, think about the people who you respected the most. Were they the ones who were always yelling about everything? The ones just looking for a chance to chew someone's ass? Or were they the ones who made you feel appreciated?

At least in the Navy, your method of earning respect guaranteed at some point you were going to be drinking urine, from a cup that several guys had rimmed.

You don't have to take BS. Manage the situation. Find out her schedule. Allow some flexibility. Maintain communication. State your scheduling requirements. If you want her there at 7, because you've got someone else coming at 10, let her know.

Works like a charm but make sure they understand the agreement beforehand.

Use the Google Clock as the judge not her phone clock.

Day 7.

Nothing to report here. Woke up with a bad headache, tried to sleep it off. Wasn't working so went to find a masseuse. Stomach becomes a bit upset, may have a slight fever too, not ideal. Just letting you know that something is going around. I think someone mentioned a few days ago they had a stomach flu here.

All the spa's had mixed reviews and I really needed something that was going to be therapeutic, not a rub down. Ended up finding Alexander who is a mobile masseuse. Luckily he had someone pull a no show and he was 5 minutes away. 60 minutes for 70 k. It was a mix between chiropractic, massage and acupressure. Even though there were some moments that were very painful, he didn't shy away from it, apologized and said it needed to be done. Very unique technique and it helped tremendously. I did feel A LOT better after.

Tried to make a cita at night but it was already late and the timing wasn't working out so went to bed early.

Day 8.

Woke up and needed a cita bad. Feeling low energy, and again might have had low grade fever over the night, but it passed quickly. Not sure what I have, but its something and it's also mild, so far. Impossible to tell where I may have picked it up at this point.

First one to respond was Maria. About an 8 in her photos but something about her just got me curious. She gets here in about an hour and a half from when we first spoke which is pretty good. We agree to two hours, two pops, oral natural completo. Same thing I want in every cita. 200 k plus taxi.

She shows up and is taller than I thought, she looked super petite in her photos but she's more like 5'7' and not nearly as pretty as her photos make her look. Well, it is what it is at this point. She takes a shower and lays down on the bed, she has a fantastic butt and perky small tits. I like her assets, but she just could have been more presentable. She's a bit shy and initiates. Turns out her BBBJ is awesome, thank god. Really putting in effort, going deep constantly, good gentle attention to the balls and it doesn't take long for my to explode in her mouth. No rush to pull off, she continues to lick and kiss gently. Solid BJ, I'm happy. This is one of my favorite things.

We lay on the bed and chat for 30 minutes until I'm ready to go again. She's laying on the bed flat with her legs closed and I come in from behind. She can move that ass! Wow, she's not a looker but she knows how to provide service, damn. She rides me for awhile, then we switch to reverse cowgirl and from this position, all I can see is her long hair and her fat fantastic butt riding me hard. Well, at least from the back, I love this view. Super intense orgasm again and she just keeps riding until I have to tell her to chill out.

Not sure how to rate her because I really wasn't attracted and she's not my type but her service is honestly pretty damn good. No complaints whatsoever on the service. I doubt I'll see her again as there are just too many other gorgeous chicas here, and I'm searching to create a small stable of absolute gems that have the full package, she doesn't make the cut for that.

Probably only stayed an hour and a half but totally good by me, no need to stay any longer. Its only 1 pm. Now to figure out what to do with the rest of the day.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2430097]My definition of Heaven: two 18-year-old smoking hot FB girls from 2 pm until 11:30 pm, Gusto from 12:00 am until 4 am (Thursday. Saturday), another threesome with two 18-year-old FB from 4 - 10 am. What's above heaven? A legit message from a super hot Paisa between 11 am and 2 pm. [/QUOTE]So you literally do not sleep when you are here?

This is the third time I have posted this report but its important.

Some years ago I was in Vancouver looking for pussy. I picked up a beautiful blond and off we go to my motel. In my room I pulled out 2 Hams beers from on top of my AC unit and we enjoy a beer and snacks and conversation before the deed. Out of nowhere she stands up and says I just can't do this. Sorry but I must go. I didn't have much of a chance to say anything and out the door she goes. The last thing she says is I will make my own way back to the city. WOW I ask myself what did I do wrong. OK so here me and Spike sit. Then out of no were there she is knocking on my door. I open the door and she says I really need the money, can we finish our beer first. Whats a guy to do. So in she comes and now she is unbuttoning her top. Oh lord, lets finish these drinks. Were right back were we were just a short time ago. We are laughing, joking, having a nice time when out of no were she stands up and says you son of the***** you changed beers with me. She staggers her way to the door, out she goes but don't forget we are on the second floor. So down the steps she staggers banging her nice, pretty butt on both sides as she descends. She almost made it but 2 steps from the bottom down she goes. So with that out of the car parked nearby comes a rather large black guy and hes helping her to the back seat of his car. Once in the car, my pretty blond disappears, or should I say passes out. This may be my first experience with this kind of robbery set up. I spent much time in Europe before it became too expensive. I would love to hear from other members on there experiences or their habits to avoid this situation.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2430017]If you do not teach them then they will never learn. You can change someone's way of thinking, but you can't change the weather. You don't think that if not anything else but having to pay that wasted taxi so many times they would learn to be on time? I do. If a chick makes me waste my money I can always get more of that, but if a chick makes me waste my time then I am just ass out on that front. They will learn to be on time when it starts costing them money as in his case.[/QUOTE]If the weather was a bad analogy then think of it this way, if you yell at her enough times in English, do you think she is going to learn English? Maybe, and I mean maybe, if you try this experiment with the same chica enough times, she might be able to be on time for you, but it's not going to change their nature.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2430176]
Use the Google Clock as the judge not her phone clock.[/QUOTE]What is the Google Clock?

One thing I hate about the tardiness is I never say can you be here in a hour, and then she says yes, and of course she is late because she wanted the date, but knew a hour wasn't enough. The way I do it, when I deal with a girl directly or an agency, is I ask them what time do you want to come tonight, and you hope she gives you a time that gives her enough time to get ready and uber over. After she gives me a time, if she is 10 minutes late I ask her how far away are you, at that point I will leave if it's "I just left sorry". I will cancel right there and tell her come tomorrow night I'm not waiting anymore.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2430141]You don't have to take BS. Manage the situation. Find out her schedule. Allow some flexibility. Maintain communication. State your scheduling requirements. If you want her there at 7, because you've got someone else coming at 10, let her know.[/QUOTE]I agree with Mr. E and Turgid on their thoughts on this matter, and you as well.

Whenever I set up an appointment with one of my El Centro regulars I always inform them that they cannot be late as I will not tolerate it, but I do at times. If they are not on time, and haven't called me with a legitimate excuse and won't be more than 30 minutes late, I tell them I am not available. So after they have missed a pay day, and have been benched, they now pretty much show up on time.

For others, some of which that I schedule a day or too out, I am much more flexible as things come up regarding their kids or whomever (boyfriend).

Guys would have less problems with Chicas being late, especially with regulars who are repeat offenders by, 1) benching them when they are going to be late thereby missing a payday, and 2) communicating your expectations as you have outlined. Whether it be an El Centro Chica, or a FayBoo Chica, missing a payday is huge for them. For a Fayboo Chica who gets say 200 K, that's basically 4 days pay at the minimum wage.

I understand Colombians are typically late, and lot of guys who set up a meeting for 2 PM are thrilled if they show up by 3 PM, but I believe once a Chica has missed a payday, at least with someone who has communicated very clear what their expectations are, they will be more punctual. This is what I have experienced.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2430010]And you say you gave her a whole 20 minutes before you. What do you think happen next, think she got on the Medellin wide prepago group message and spread the word that "these gringos and mad as hell and they aren't going to take it anymore" and every chica in the city decided to fall into line and be on time. If you had seriously read this forum you would know that there are many guys on this forum who have logged many trips over many years in that city, and will tell you time and time again that these chicas have a whole different perception of timing than we do. Promptness is not valued by them. Would I get frustrated if a chica is late, yes, but I also know to expect it. I get frustrated when it gets cold in the winter too, but I expect it. It is not because of idiot gringos, it is the nature of things. She does not live by the same standards of timing because it is not in her to, she most likely thinks that you are just unreasonably impatient. I learned quickly that these chicas lives are not structured in the least, they are more like a tumbleweed caught in a hurricane as JjBee62 describes below. By proving you could cause her to spend money she probably didn't have, all you proved was you could cause her to spend money she did not have. Maybe I am an idiot gringo but I don't think I can change the lifestyle and habits of a bello chica anymore than my last girlfriend who thought she could change me. Could change me.[/QUOTE]Yes time management is something they need to work on but no point in stressing over this. What I can't stand is the fact that they feel like they can waste your time but the minute you waste their time it's the end of the world. I guess that comes with the territory when fucking with the spoiled ones. For example the first time I met Angie Munoz she was like an HR late but I didn't sweat it mainly because that's what I had been told to prepare for plus this is common ni matter what city you visit. But I had a second appointment booked with her and she waited until an HR before our appointment to tell me that she isn't coming. And that's after I texted her. I can imagine that if I didn't text her she probably would have just not shown up. Anyways I set up a third appointment with her the following day and I guess she was on time which I wasn't really expecting. I got caught up in centro and was in a taxi when she asked for my room number. So when I told her that she got all pissed off talking about that's a lack of respect and I'm wasting her time. She even initially blocked me and then unblocked me it seems because one of my messages never reached her but the message immediately after did. And I just thought that was very hypocritical. So I won't be repeating with her. She is good but I've found someone on another level entirely. And I'll be keeping this one around for sure. And that's the thing they don't understand is that they are easily replaceable. But then again someone like her won't be hurting because she seems to be very popular. She had an appointment scheduled before my second appointment with her and several after me. I highly doubt she canceled all her appointments due to a hangover like she told me. I'm sure some other guy offered her more than I was willing to pay.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2430269]I agree with Mr. E and Turgid on their thoughts on this matter, and you as well.

Whenever I set up an appointment with one of my El Centro regulars I always inform them that they cannot be late as I will not tolerate it, but I do at times. If they are not on time, and haven't called me with a legitimate excuse and won't be more than 30 minutes late, I tell them I am not available. So after they have missed a pay day, and have been benched, they now pretty much show up on time.

For others, some of which that I schedule a day or too out, I am much more flexible as things come up regarding their kids or whomever (boyfriend).

Guys would have less problems with Chicas being late, especially with regulars who are repeat offenders by, 1) benching them when they are going to be late thereby missing a payday, and 2) communicating your expectations as you have outlined. Whether it be an El Centro Chica, or a FayBoo Chica, missing a payday is huge for them. For a Fayboo Chica who gets say 200 K, that's basically 4 days pay at the minimum wage.

I understand Colombians are typically late, and lot of guys who set up a meeting for 2 PM are thrilled if they show up by 3 PM, but I believe once a Chica has missed a payday, at least with someone who has communicated very clear what their expectations are, they will be more punctual. This is what I have experienced.[/QUOTE]Certainly. For those of us who have a collection of girls who we regularly see, there's no need to tolerate someone who is chronically late.

For the guys without a stable, or who only want new girls, it doesn't work. She's not going to learn from the experience and the next guy will probably have the same problem. And the monger will likely keep experiencing the same issue.

The goal is supposed to be getting laid. Whatever source you use, maximize your return by controlling the situation. When someone walks away from a session without getting laid, they've lost as much as the girl. We spent money to fly there, money to sleep and eat there, money to leave our car in a parking lot. Now we're spending half our time getting angry? I can go to work and do that.

If you're making an appointment, remember she has a lot more issues to deal with than you. Don't try to set up something last minute. It rarely works with your friends at home, why think it will be any different in another country? Try it sometime. Thursday night, 8:30 pm, call a friend and ask him to meet you at a strip club at 9:15. If he's got a wife, kids, girlfriend, dog, job, etc, he's not going to show.

Plan ahead. Find out when they can be there. If she can be there at 7, tell her 7 is perfect and plan on 8. Hit her up at 6 and see if any issues have come up. Hit her up again at 7. Meanwhile, enjoy your dinner, have a drink, catch up on email and chat up the girls you want for tomorrow. Chances are she'll be at your door between 7:45 and 8:30. You really didn't lose any time and you can enjoy yourself.

Meanwhile she's happy. She gets paid and she doesn't have to deal with an angry confrontation. Happy chicas tend to give better service.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2430242]This is the third time I have posted this report but its important.

We are laughing, joking, having a nice time when out of no were she stands up and says you son of the***** you changed beers with me.

So with that out of the car parked nearby comes a rather large black guy and hes helping her to the back seat of his car. Once in the car, my pretty blond disappears, or should I say passes out. This may be my first experience with this kind of robbery set up. I spent much time in Europe before it became too expensive. I would love to hear from other members on there experiences or their habits to avoid this situation.[/QUOTE]I get that you are saying that you would have gotten robbed if you had drank the beer that was meant for you? But fate had it that she ended up with beer that was spiked with the knock out drug?

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2430278] So when I told her that she got all pissed off talking about that's a lack of respect and I'm wasting her time. She even initially blocked me and then unblocked me it seems because one of my messages never reached her but the message immediately after did. [/QUOTE]I can't argue with you, that is hypocritical.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2430222]So you literally do not sleep when you are here?[/QUOTE]I do sleep, just not alone.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2430242]This is the third time I have posted this report but its important.

Some years ago I was in Vancouver looking for pussy. I picked up a beautiful blond and off we go to my motel. In my room I pulled out 2 Hams beers from on top of my AC unit and we enjoy a beer and snacks and conversation before the deed. Out of nowhere she stands up and says I just can't do this. Sorry but I must go. [/QUOTE]LOL, had to read twice before I got the "robbery" bit. Hopefully, it was a memorable experience for her.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2430242]This is the third time I have posted this report but its important.

Some years ago I was in Vancouver looking for pussy. I picked up a beautiful blond and off we go to my motel. In my room I pulled out 2 Hams beers from on top of my AC unit and we enjoy a beer and snacks and conversation before the deed. Out of nowhere she stands up and says I just can't do this. Sorry but I must go. I didn't have much of a chance to say anything and out the door she goes. The last thing she says is I will make my own way back to the city. WOW I ask myself what did I do wrong. OK so here me and Spike sit. Then out of no were there she is knocking on my door. I open the door and she says I really need the money, can we finish our beer first. Whats a guy to do. So in she comes and now she is unbuttoning her top. Oh lord, lets finish these drinks. Were right back were we were just a short time ago. We are laughing, joking, having a nice time when out of no were she stands up and says you son of the***** you changed beers with me. She staggers her way to the door, out she goes but don't forget we are on the second floor. So down the steps she staggers banging her nice, pretty butt on both sides as she descends. She almost made it but 2 steps from the bottom down she goes. So with that out of the car parked nearby comes a rather large black guy and hes helping her to the back seat of his car. Once in the car, my pretty blond disappears, or should I say passes out. This may be my first experience with this kind of robbery set up. I spent much time in Europe before it became too expensive. I would love to hear from other members on there experiences or their habits to avoid this situation.[/QUOTE]I'm confused. When did she spike the beer. You pulled them out and gave it to her. Did you walk away for a bit and then she spiked it. How did you switch them in front of her.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2430141]Do you honestly believe that's how you earn respect? For anyone who served in the military, think about the people who you respected the most. Were they the ones who were always yelling about everything? The ones just looking for a chance to chew someone's ass? Or were they the ones who made you feel appreciated?

At least in the Navy, your method of earning respect guaranteed at some point you were going to be drinking urine, from a cup that several guys had rimmed.

You don't have to take BS. Manage the situation. Find out her schedule. Allow some flexibility. Maintain communication. State your scheduling requirements. If you want her there at 7, because you've got someone else coming at 10, let her know.[/QUOTE]Americans take a lot of crap from the girls that's why the chicas don't respect them. Why do you think American women are the snottiest in the world? Because American men would eat their shit to try to boink them. Do you think the chicas would do the same thing to Colombian men? Hell no, they'll be on time.

I don't mind a girl being late. If we make an arrangement at 10.00 am to meet at 4. 00 pm and 4. 00 pm comes and you tell me you are in a taxi 20 minutes away, no worries. If half an hour after that I call and you say sorry you are about to leave home I say f..k that BS and have nothing more to do with her. Its a pity that American men accustomed to American women's haughtiness will put their tail between their legs and tell the chicas "okay honey" just because they're hoping get some tail.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2429589]As for apps, Duolingo is the best app I have found. It has a free version and an paid that works offline. It is designed for anyone (any idiot like me) it builds you up slowly from simple to complex sentences. .[/QUOTE]Thanks for the recommendation. Duolingo is incredible, I've downloaded it, and I currently spend about 1.5 hours a day on it. Little did I know, after spending 70+ days in Medellin in the last six months, I picked up quite a bit of Spanish already.

[QUOTE=KetoAndKettle;2429519]If you want to spend money, buy Rocket Spanish program. I bought the third level (last level) because I had already gained a lot of progress, but you might start the first level. Great program, but a little expensive at 150 a level.

Takes time. But so fucking worth it.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much for your advice. I don't mind spending some money to learning Spanish, and I will give Rocket's Spanish program a try, probably start with the trial version. I am debating between getting a private tutor, attend a group class, and assign up for an online tutor program. Regardless of which option I choose, I will keep practice daily on Duolingo.

For the members that say Colombian men don't put up with tardiness from the girls. How do you know this. Seems like a blanket statement. I imagine they are late with everyone. I have Mongered in many countries and girls are always late period. It's not a American guy thing. Do you guys poll Colombian guys to come to this conclusion. I grew up with sisters and they always hogged the bathroom for hours. It's just a girl thing, and you combine the fact they are hookers and want to say yes to whatever time you say makes it worse. When I was in Brazil all the Brazilian guys said Brazilian girls are always late. They would tell me subtract a minimum of 30 minutes from the actual time you want them there.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2430442]Americans take a lot of crap from the girls that's why the chicas don't respect them. Why do you think American women are the snottiest in the world? Because American men would eat their shit to try to boink them. Do you think the chicas would do the same thing to Colombian men? Hell no, they'll be on time.

I don't mind a girl being late. If we make an arrangement at 10.00 am to meet at 4. 00 pm and 4. 00 pm comes and you tell me you are in a taxi 20 minutes away, no worries. If half an hour after that I call and you say sorry you are about to leave home I say f..k that BS and have nothing more to do with her. Its a pity that American men accustomed to American women's haughtiness will put their tail between their legs and tell the chicas "okay honey" just because they're hoping get some tail.[/QUOTE]You have to manage your expectations. I don't think it has anything to do with being an American; it is just common sense. Most of the girls I see are between 18 - 21; there is no way they can think like someone in their 30's. Being punctual and professional is the last thing they care about at that age. If an 18-year-old is overly obsessed about punctuality and professionalism, then I don't want to spend time with her. In my experience, it's much easier to run a quick and simple analysis in your head to predict their actual arrival time than trying to change the behavior of an 18-21-year-old. Open communication helps, talk to them, check their status, you can quickly tell whether they are juggling between multiple guys they are banging or truly stuck in traffic.

If you treat them well and get them to like you, you can let them know that you hate tardiness; next time, they will prioritize you over other things. The older I get, the more I realize that flexing your muscles at an 18-year-old often will not get you what you want. You are on vacation, tranquilo, don't let a few teenage girls push you into stereotyping.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2430242]We are laughing, joking, having a nice time when out of no were she stands up and says you son of the***** you changed beers with me.[/QUOTE]I sure hope you said, Damn right I did!

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2430010]And you say you gave her a whole 20 minutes before you.[/QUOTE]Clearly you have reading comprehension problems. She was over an hour late and lied to me about already being in a taxi for 30 minutes. She sent me several messages saying she was on her way when she had not left yet. I expect the girls to be about 30 minutes late, I plan for that. But more than an hour late combined with lying about being in taxi for 30 minutes is beyond my tolerance. It should be beyond anyones with a shred of self respect. I had a regular who started showing up progressively later. That one was warned. After she arrived to an empty appartment and had to cover her taxi, she was never late again.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2430442]Americans take a lot of crap from the girls that's why the chicas don't respect them. Why do you think American women are the snottiest in the world? Because American men would eat their shit to try to boink them. Do you think the chicas would do the same thing to Colombian men? Hell no, they'll be on time.

I don't mind a girl being late. If we make an arrangement at 10.00 am to meet at 4. 00 pm and 4. 00 pm comes and you tell me you are in a taxi 20 minutes away, no worries. If half an hour after that I call and you say sorry you are about to leave home I say f..k that BS and have nothing more to do with her. Its a pity that American men accustomed to American women's haughtiness will put their tail between their legs and tell the chicas "okay honey" just because they're hoping get some tail.[/QUOTE]It appears you are confused about the meaning of respect. 99% of these girls have no respect for you, me or any other monger. They're showing up to do a job, usually for a complete stranger. You can treat them like shit, or you can treat them like a queen and you'll end up with the same amount of respect. The bottom line is did you pay? If so, then they'll decide whether it's worth seeing you again. Nothing to do with respect, just her evaluation of the work environment.

You honestly think the Colombian girls are showing up on time for the Colombian men? LOL! The Colombian men know that 9:30 means 11:00. Paisas being late has zero to do with gringos. It's the national pasttime. It doesn't matter what type of appointment you're trying to make. They're not going to be on time. Talk to some of the gringos running businesses in Colombia. The clock means almost nothing to them.

I always get some "tail" when I want. No hoping required. I also rarely have any problems with girls being late, even though girls are always late. It's simple. I understand how things work. I don't try to change an entire country to meet my needs. I don't set myself to get pissed off and fail to succeed at the sole reason why I traveled to the country.

I'll repeat it again. Work into their schedule, instead of working them into your schedule. Adjust your expectations to fit their reality. Surely you've been around women at some point in your life. What does it mean when a woman (any nationality) tells you "I'll be ready in 5 minutes?" It means, sit down and get comfortable, you've got at least 20 minutes to kill. If you tell her to meet you at a restaurant at 9 pm, she's not walking in until 9:15. Colombians are no different. Set something up for 4 pm, when a taxi is going to take 30-45 minutes to get to you and she's still not walking out the door until 4:15. Very few of them will ever think about the travel time or traffic.

If you know she's not leaving until 4:15 for your 4 pm appointment, then why hold the unreasonable expectation that she'll be at your door at 4:20 or 4:30? Set your appointment at 3 and she'll be there between 4 and 4:30. Set it for 4 and she'll arrive between 5 and 5:30. Tell her one time and expect the other. Consider it a different time zone, if that helps.

Is your method working? How often do you have an issue with a girl being seriously late, or telling her not to bother coming? How often do you have to resort to a backup plan? What's the average wait time for plan "be" to arrive?

My method works for me over 90% of the time. I don't have to scramble to find a replacement. I don't have to wait for the replacement. I don't have to deal with finding a replacement for the replacement, because she's not going to be on time either.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2430296]For the guys without a stable, or who only want new girls, it doesn't work. She's not going to learn from the experience and the next guy will probably have the same problem. And the monger will likely keep experiencing the same issue.

If you're making an appointment, remember she has a lot more issues to deal with than you. Don't try to set up something last minute. It rarely works with your friends at home, why think it will be any different in another country? Try it sometime. Thursday night, 8:30 pm, call a friend and ask him to meet you at a strip club at 9:15. If he's got a wife, kids, girlfriend, dog, job, etc, he's not going to show.

Plan ahead. Find out when they can be there. If she can be there at 7, tell her 7 is perfect and plan on 8. Hit her up at 6 and see if any issues have come up. Hit her up again at 7. Meanwhile, enjoy your dinner, have a drink, catch up on email and chat up the girls you want for tomorrow. Chances are she'll be at your door between 7:45 and 8:30. You really didn't lose any time and you can enjoy yourself.

Meanwhile she's happy. She gets paid and she doesn't have to deal with an angry confrontation. Happy chicas tend to give better service.[/QUOTE]Everybody rolls different and has a different tolerance level in how they personally deal with Chicas being on time. For some, like yourself, if a Chica arrives an hour or too late, no problem. But for others like myself, that doesn't work for me, and others on this board.

You have a lot of patience, which is commendable, and supports how you roll. Some guys have quotas or so many girls they have to see in a day, so a late Chica is going to effect how they roll, where as for you it's not a problem.

The topic was how to deal with late Chica's for timely encounters, and perhaps there is no simple solution, but I suspect the Mongers with strong Spanish communication skills like yourself being an EAFIT Alumni like myself will be much more successful than those relying on translators in having their Chicas be more punctual.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2430485]Clearly you have reading comprehension problems. She was over an hour late and lied to me about already being in a taxi for 30 minutes. She sent me several messages saying she was on her way when she had not left yet. I expect the girls to be about 30 minutes late, I plan for that. But more than an hour late combined with lying about being in taxi for 30 minutes is beyond my tolerance. It should be beyond anyones with a shred of self respect. I had a regular who started showing up progressively later. That one was warned. After she arrived to an empty appartment and had to cover her taxi, she was never late again.[/QUOTE]Yep, once you bench them and they miss a pay day, guess what, they are like a Swiss Clock.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2430496]Paisas being late has zero to do with gringos. It's the national pasttime. It doesn't matter what type of appointment you're trying to make. They're not going to be on time. Talk to some of the gringos running businesses in Colombia. The clock means almost nothing to them.[/QUOTE]My experience is different, in a professional environment, all of my paisa colleagues are very punctual.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2430496]do you honestly think the Colombian girls are showing up on time for the Colombian men? LOL! The Colombian men know that 9:30 means 11:00. Paisas being late has zero to do with gringos. It's the national pasttime. It doesn't matter what type of appointment you're trying to make. They're not going to be on time. Talk to some of the gringos running businesses in Colombia. The clock means almost nothing to them.

I don't try to change an entire country to meet my needs. I don't set myself to get pissed off and fail to succeed at the sole reason why I traveled to the country.[/QUOTE]You are so right JjBee! It's their way of life and it's not our mission to change their ways. It's hard for short timers to get used to it but after a while you either get used to it or accept it. If we changed them all to our lifestyles, they'd become American Women and nobody wants that.

To each his own but don't think you will or should change what is part of their culture.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2430576]My experience is different, in a professional environment, all of my paisa colleagues are very punctual.[/QUOTE]An over generalization on my part. In your professional environment, you're probably dealing with estrato 5 and 6, with an occasional 4. In the mongering environment we're seeing estrato 1 and 2 with an occasional 3. The estrato 6 webcam model I worked with was quite dependable.

Has anyone stayed here, or heard any positive / negative reviews from a personal friend that has? Specifically, if it is girl-friendly? It looks nice, decent location, price is ok, but I see a lot of women leaving reviews, which leads me to believe there could potentially be issues with guests.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2430452]

If you treat them well and get them to like you, you can let them know that you hate tardiness; next time, they will prioritize you over other things. The older I get, the more I realize that flexing your muscles at an 18-year-old often will not get you what you want. You are on vacation, tranquilo, don't let a few teenage girls push you into stereotyping.[/QUOTE]I agree here with SJobs here.

I've been dealing with Colombianas for over 20 years now.

Whether it's respect for you or if they just like you, they will most definitely try / communicate better as far as their arrival punctuality, and everything else as well.

I disagree with the thought from another post that no matter how well you treat them, they will not respect you.

I've found just the opposite actually.

Don't be a fool of course, but a little empathy goes a long way.

Of course when dealing with a new girl, you can articulate your arrival expectations to her, however, her being an unknown, you just really don't know.

If she exceeds your tolerances or continues to lie, I'm with the guys that just cut it loose and move on.
Depends on as well, your desire to see this particular girl, on how much youll put up with.
Flexibility is good, but there are definitely limits.

Regardless of the culture, after a few missed paydays, she will most likely learn.

Unless of course she's some high demand chica who has multiple guys after her and feels she can do as she pleases, and I really avoid that type anyway.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2429913]I made a date with a chica for 6:30 telling her to message me at 5:45 to confirm she is ready to leave. She does and I give her my address. At 6:20 she messages me to say she finally got a taxi and is on the way. She is 30 minutes away. At 6:50 I ask her to send me her location so I can see where she is. She is still home. I tell her not to come and not to message me again, that I can not trust her. 20 minutes later I get a message from her she is in the taxi 10 minutes away. I tell her to turn around. Then we go through the usually appolgy and begging. She then begs for me to at least pay her taxi. I tell her I am no longer home and blocker her. I tell her not to 'treat the next gringo like an idiot'. Guys here will tell me this is comon. It is comon because Gringos are idiots who let the girls do this to them all the time and wait however long. Gentlemen don't be that idot! I had another girl linds up before she was in her taxi. [/QUOTE]Look back in hindsight. I wonder if it's better to keep the date and get her to agree to accept some form of penalty, like paying for taxi, more time, or a rate reduction. This will achieve the goal of teaching her a lesson if she agrees.

I think she may not get the part about idiot gringo because that is not the reason she was late. She may even think it's a crazy gringo and learn nothing because she does not know you.

Arrived Monday. No problems with immigration. Only asked about hotel accommodations.

ATM machines from banco Colombia are a problem. Deducts from your bank then credits you back. The other Banks work but they deduct six percent from the official rate.

On Tuesday went to new life. Good lineup for 1000 am. Selected a young slim hottie with classic latina looks and nice long black hair.

Average performance. No kissing on the mouth. Decent CBJ. It's more about being in the presence of a young hottie at a small price.

Today went to affire. 3 girls. 2 were good. Selected one that resembles a mulatta. Lack of passion but passion was lacking. Good pse with CBJ. Moves your johnson to different parts of her mouth.

Compared to 5 years ago passion and performance is greatly diminished. Pricing is very cheap.

Sao Paulo, Kuala Lumpur and Thailand have a much better cost / benefit ratio.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2430643]Look back in hindsight. I wonder if it's better to keep the date and get her to agree to accept some form of penalty, like paying for taxi, more time, or a rate reduction. This will achieve the goal of teaching her a lesson if she agrees.

I think she may not get the part about idiot gringo because that is not the reason she was late. She may even think it's a crazy gringo and learn nothing because she does not know you.[/QUOTE]I understand a lot of the comments about not changing Paisa culture. Like I said it is not just that she was late (we all deal with that). I'm much more tolerant of of a girl being late when she sends me a note letting me know. Many times I get a message saying they are coming late and that is fine. The issue here was being told she was in a taxi and almost at my place when she had not left home yet. I draw a firm line there. At that point I just loose interest in seeing her, so no interest in negotiating a penalty. Then again I have a group of girls I see regularly, most of them low volume girls who aren't that busy. I can just see who is online, ask them if they are busy and have many at my door in 60 - 90 minutes.

Someone else mentioned not making last minute appointments. Understand most girls will need an hour to get ready. My experience has been otherwise (for the most part). It is more often the advanced appointments the girls forget or get sidetracked.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2430248]What is the Google Clock?[/QUOTE]I mean just typing "Current Time" into Google for an exact, unbiased time instead of a girl showing you her phone that is two or three minutes off from the real time.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2430392]I do sleep, just not alone.[/QUOTE]Oh ok, got it. I read your last report and was thinking, my man, how do you pull that off?! It read like you literally party 24 hours a day LOL.

I'm not here too toot my own horn to give away my Facebook contacts. Just wanted to speak to a few of the new open-minded users. I like this new school of mongers!! I'm not that guy that argues on here or wants to knock anyone's methods or prices their willing to pay. Facebook has been a huge tool. When I started Mongering Medellin I was blown away by the amount of talent there. My first approach was just boots on the ground gold searching. I never tried SA because I don't want the expensive subscription. I tried Tinder and that works great for when you are there unless you buy the subscription. But Facebook has been the biggest gem ever for me. I have received so many free and paid appointments from there that it's crazy.

I've learned so much by interacting with the girls on there that it is literally my immediate go to when chica hunting. During those odd hours during the day hungover in your hotel. When trying to see where the locals party too. Or just trying to Red Shirt a dime you might not find walking the streets or in a bar. Of course PP and Miller are great. But FB has changed the game for me, if set up correctly. It's so simple and a great foot in the door. I literally have almost 1000 women in MDE on my friends list. I can't keep up with the inbox conversations. Barring fake accounts and a bunch of questionable semi pros. It is an amazing mechanism.

I've posted tips on how to setup the Facebook game but it takes patience to grow. But we'll worth it.

In short for the new mongers. Crate a separate fb from your personal one. Use a decent profile picture. Upload at least 15 pictures of you so they don't think it's a fake account. Or one of their sneaky family members trying to find out their not really working at a restaurant late night. Set your home city to Medellin!! Update your status saying how much you love Medellin in Spanish with Google translate Do a bland search for Latina names like Sarah, Carolina, Vale, Yessica, Nina, in Medellin or Antioquia. And start aggressively friend requesting. Every one that accepts, look at her friends list if available. I've been told by alot of the girls they don't tag their friends in pictures so that they don't lose customers to her hot friends! If her friends list is blocked. Look at her likes! You will see chicas and mongers! Do not overlook the males on her comments and likes. They. We. Are doing it too. Their friends can be a goldmine also. Find a clean cut guy in Medellin or that obviously travels there and look at the girls liking his photos. Friend request her. I personally only look at the guys with some resemblance to me. If they like him, odds are she could like you also. I found one guy that has almost 2000 chicas in Medellin on his friends list. I friend requested the ones I was attracted to. Until FB told me I had too many pending request. Then I went back and deleted all that never accepted my request. Every morning I log in and see 15 to 20 new accepted request and welcome them to my stable with a simple DM. Hola. Cómo estás. And I either get ignored LOL or a hola baby, where are you from! And it's all game from there.

Prices fluctuate. And I have witnessed the craziest shit. One chica quoted me her price at 250.000 pesos. Same chick I saw in a massage parlor and paid 80.000 pesos. Hahaha. That's what you have to be aware of. Facebook is her chance to self market like when she is in the club. But hey. Most of us still pop in to Gustos expecting to pay a heavier bill. Most. Now obviously I know all the Vets here will find something negative to say but this. Kick rocks old school this post isn't for you. Can't teach an old dog new tricks. Especially when you need to maximize your dollars like a ton of posters here do. Some of these guys buy off brand everything. Or are on fixed income. Or just don't want to pay more than the bare minimums. Not my vibe. But to each their own. I also had chicks quote me 150 pesos on Facebook and saw her in front of Gustos on the street chatting up my friend asking for 300.000 pesos. She recognized me when I joined in the combo and all of a sudden we took her and her "cousin" home at a fair price. My guy and board vet Pollo Negro can squeeze blood from a rock and have them working for coins but that's a gift I'm still learning. It's all about timing, LOCATION, AND knowledge of where her bottom line is vs her asking price. Dudes blessed!! Biggups bruv.

Overall create that profile and treat it like a plant. JUST don't SOLEY RELY ON IT!! Find the method that works best for YOU! FB, pp, Miller, SA, street walkers, casas, MPs, or through other girls. Feel free to DM me if you have interest in more granular details but please don't do to try to friend request me and take my golden eggs from fb hahaha I'm stingy at times. Another big thing I learned is I only accept women and that's for a reason. Facebooks algorithm suggested friends is based on who's profile in the suggestion box you view, your city, and who you know as a friend. I accepted a guy and it took days before it stopped suggesting men to me! It's ok to view a guys friends, just don't look at him from the suggested friends list. Otherwise fb will suggest guys like him. If you don't want to scroll a ton of men and women trust me on this. Now my suggested friends is only WOMEN in Medellin or Cartagena. Oddly alot of them have tons of similarities. Fb suggestions is now similar to free Tinder for me. They accept. I assume the swiped right also. Chat them up, get there WhatsApp and get ready to to have a beautiful headache of balancing all the women you have made empty promises to. Nothing better than the day you arrive posting a picture of you flying to Medellin and then by the time you turn off airplane mode having 50 + new dms from girls saying let's meet.

When you agree on a price I reccomend saving her price next to her name to help with filtering who you will fit in. 1000 friends currrntly. All women. All in Colombia. Odds in your favor. Price depends on how you work your magic. I've paid the 300.000 and I've paid the 75.000 pesos also. Been let down from both, been pleasently surprised from both. Just utilize all of your available resources. Next if you have Android look into GB WhatsApp. It kills regular WhatsApp but uses the same system. Only difference is it's cracked so you won't find it in the play store. Google it. It gives you the ability to do sneaky stuff like, not show that you read a message, stop calls from coming in to your phone but to her you did not answer or were on another line, stop her from deleting pictures she once sent to you, and tons of other crazy gadgets that give you a leg up. Enjoy fellas, just don't fall in love or start sending the hot one money once you return. Inbox me if you need me.

Finally got in touch with 5 chicas that were at the top of my list to see. Normal niceties in the beginning and say I'd like 2 hours, 2 pops, they ask how much I offer. I say 200 k mas taxi. All 5 say no way, that is very low money and they will not come. I ask how much they ask for, and they all say between 400 k-500 k mas taxi!!

I say no way, that's way too much and I've never been asked for that much, which is true. I say, lets find something that works for us both, because I would see them 3-4 times over the next 10 days, and they say, no thank you, have a good day. Granted they are stunners, total 10's, but really? Are they getting that much? 5 chicas just turned down 1. 2 m pesos over the next week from me (300 k x 4 times). Hard to believe.

I had Karina come back over because she's easy to communicate and schedule with and we have a great time together. She only has her passport and renuncia, which I guess is something you get when your cedula is stolen. She has been here twice now no problems. The security guard tonight won't let her in, we argue for almost an hour, call the supervisor and they say the renuncia is too old (from February. What? She should get a new one and it will be okay. We're both pissed the fuck off. No answer as to why it was okay two days ago, this particular security guard is just being difficult for no reason.

Karina is super sweet about it, I pay her ubers plus extra because I feel terrible for wasting her time, but she's all good about it and says she will go to the police station and get a new renuncia tomorrow.

Now I have a new chica on the way, will be be here in an hour. Happy about that but still feel terrible for wasting Karina's time, I will make it up to her though. Will report on new chica later tonight.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2430679]Karina is super sweet about it, I pay her ubers plus extra because I feel terrible for wasting her time, but she's all good about it and says she will go to the police station and get a new renuncia tomorrow..[/QUOTE]Next when this happens, consider taking her to a love hotel such as Ibiza. The rooms there are pretty decent.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2430679]Finally got in touch with 5 chicas that were at the top of my list to see. Normal niceties in the beginning and say I'd like 2 hours, 2 pops, they ask how much I offer. I say 200 k mas taxi. All 5 say no way, that is very low money and they will not come. I ask how much they ask for, and they all say between 400 k-500 k mas taxi!!

I say no way, that's way too much and I've never been asked for that much, which is true. I say, lets find something that works for us both, because I would see them 3-4 times over the next 10 days, and they say, no thank you, have a good day. Granted they are stunners, total 10's, but really? Are they getting that much? 5 chicas just turned down 1. 2 m pesos over the next week from me (300 k x 4 times). Hard to believe.

I had Karina come back over because she's easy to communicate and schedule with and we have a great time together. She only has her passport and renuncia, which I guess is something you get when your cedula is stolen. She has been here twice now no problems. The security guard tonight won't let her in, we argue for almost an hour, call the supervisor and they say the renuncia is too old (from February. What? She should get a new one and it will be okay. We're both pissed the fuck off. No answer as to why it was okay two days ago, this particular security guard is just being difficult for no reason.

Karina is super sweet about it, I pay her ubers plus extra because I feel terrible for wasting her time, but she's all good about it and says she will go to the police station and get a new renuncia tomorrow.

Now I have a new chica on the way, will be be here in an hour. Happy about that but still feel terrible for wasting Karina's time, I will make it up to her though. Will report on new chica later tonight.[/QUOTE]The answer is YES. They are getting it from elsewhere. They will come down in price when they are desperate.

But there are different levels of girls. I'm not talking about Vennies or El Centro girls.

I'm talking about the ones that actually have a social circle in medellin and want to remain discreet and only look to foreigners for money while they go back to their barrios to show off to their friends.

Girls are getting 200-300 usd from guys. And unless your Spanish is at almost 100% and can change their minds with your good looks or game or whatever they not going to come down off that price until they absolutely have to.

Girls are using Instagram and seeking and some of them are hitting the jackpot with it.

Girls go to envy rooftop knowing it's 300 usd per night to stay there hoping to catch a client whose staying there for 200-300 usd.

The issue is the guys willing to pay 200 300 400 usd are out there. Maybe not a lot but they are there. And once they pay those numbers the word gets around.

I personally know guys who fell in love with a girl bought her a house and car. He's not even an old or ugly guy mid 30's normal looking.

This board doesn't cover the fact there are many girls who are not available to the average user here.

It's about mongering and cheap hookers.

I been to medellin 12 times in 2 years 10 days at a time.

I'm learning the difference of many of these girls. Some of these girls aren't even attractive to me but they managed to find a guy who took care of them for so long they now think they're worth more than they are.

My advice is once a girl turns you down keep it moving to the next one. This is the land of hot girls. Youll eventually find what you're looking for.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2430583]You are so right JjBee! It's their way of life and it's not our mission to change their ways. [/QUOTE]You are right. But it IS my mission to make sure MY business dealings go smoothly. That includes not accepting mfs that will be late for no apparent reason and wasting my damn time. Any excuse that a chick has, she should be able to tell you well ahead of time, hey this is going on so I will be a little late. It is not the fact that she is rumning late, but it is the "fuck you you do not deserve truthful updates when you are waiting on me" that is the problem.

I don't just pull a time out of my ass and say you better be here at this time or else. Usually I ask them what time they can come. If you give me a time and can't stick to the time YOU gave, wtf? And as I have said in numerous reports, before you arrive a chick goes all day every day doing nothing with all the free time in the world. When you get there and it is time for her to come to you, then Uncle Bob just died, Cousin Shirley just went into labor, the pipes just burst at the neighbor's house and nobody can get in or out of the neighborhood. This stuff never happens last month, last week, or at 12 noon. It only happens when the 4 pm that she is supposed to meet up with you comes around. Any other times you ask what are you doing the answer is always nothing, just in the house bored.

When it is time to go to a normal job the whole staff is not 2 hours late on some culture shit. When it is time to catch a flight they are not 2 hours late on some culture shit. When the delivery man comes with a new refrigerator they are not 2 hours late on some culture shit. When it is time to pick the kid up from school or the sitters they are not 2 hours late on some culture shit. They are only 2 hours late on some culture shit when our rusty asses are waiting for them. That is plain to see.

I have an MBA in International Business and studied cultures around the world. In Latino countries where you will notice tardiness as part of the culture, the people are generally 10 to 30 minutes late for social events. It is in nobody's culture to be 2 and 3 hours late when they are trying to get some money! In other words, the culture knows when it is okay to be late and when it is not. Horny gringo waiting on me? Definitely okay to show up whenever I damn well please; he will still be there with his dick in one hand and his wallet in the other hand ready to overpay me.

When because I am late, I not only am missing out on the money he was going to give me, but I also have to shell out money to this guy that drove me half way over there before the guy finally got tired of waiting and canceled starts to happen, then all of that late culture when dealing with gringos will change. You can beg and plead all you want getting no results, but hitting them in the pocket WILL change their ways.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2430698]... It is in nobody's culture to be 2 and 3 hours late when they are trying to get some money!..[/QUOTE]I worked in the 3rd world for years, mostly Latin America, back in the 70's. I used to have a rule: permanent secretaries (or equivalent) ten minutes, Ministers of government twenty minutes. I never waited a minute longer. No exceptions. As I was generally a dispenser of US largesse, their behavior soon changed. For 'les petits fonctionnaires' making supplicants wait is a passive-aggressive dominance display. I think it somewhat the same for working girls. Making you wait is to demonstrate that you need them more than they need you. Be like Mr. Enternational!

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2430697]The answer is YES. They are getting it from elsewhere. They will come down in price when they are desperate.

Girls are getting 200-300 usd from guys. And unless your Spanish is at almost 100% and can change their minds with your good looks or game or whatever they not going to come down off that price until they absolutely have to.

Girls are using Instagram and seeking and some of them are hitting the jackpot with it.The issue is the guys willing to pay 200 300 400 usd are out there.

I personally know guys who fell in love with a girl bought her a house and car. He's not even an old or ugly guy mid 30's normal looking.

This board doesn't cover the fact there are many girls who are not available to the average user here. [/QUOTE]Thank you, this is super helpful. Many of the girls I am referring to have been "traveling" and just coming back to Medellin the past couple of days. So I'll go ahead and assume that there are guys flying them all around and paying high dollars for their time.

Paying $3-400 USD is crazy enough, buying them a house and a car, they need to get their head checked out ASAP.

I mean sure, I could pay it, but I could over pay for tons of things if that's how I wanted to handle myself. Well, that's a bummer because I really wanted to see a few of these chicas but as you said, there's tons more.

Great, informative report. I didn't think there'd be massage places in Poblado with he available. Will be flying there on Monday, and staying at an apt in Poblado. Thank you.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2430097]My definition of Heaven: two 18-year-old smoking hot FB girls from 2 pm until 11:30 pm, Gusto from 12:00 am until 4 am (Thursday. Saturday), another threesome with two 18-year-old FB from 4 - 10 am. What's above heaven? A legit message from a super hot Paisa between 11 am and 2 pm.

Thank you, Jjbee and GeneHackman, for the excellent recommendation of legit massage place in Poblado. As promised, I'm reporting back on my experience in Centro Comercial areo Sur.

To be honest, I had my reservations about massage parlors in Medellin. Latinos are not known to give good messages; furthermore, given that I'm from the you. S, I always have this tinted image of a 40-year-old butt ugly Asian lady who offers an OK massage for 65 dollars an hour and demands a 25 dollar tip. To put things in perspective, in the you. S, if those grandmas in the typical massage parlor are willing to give me 200 dollars so they can give me a handjob, I will turn them down immediately. So far, Medellin has surprised me in every way, so I looked forward to trying the legit massage place.

The areo Sur building is packed with beauty salons and massage palors. The first floor is under renovation right now; you have to walk up to the second floor to take the elevator up to higher levels. A massage place called "El Garage Spa 4 man" is on the third floor, "Om Spa for Man" on the fourth floor, and both Zen and Dharma are on the fifth floor. I have tried all of them, sometimes multiple rounds per day. They are about the same in both concept and style. Based on my experience, Garage has the best decor, and Zen has the prettiest girls. Here is my typical experience:.[/QUOTE]

Previously posted how the day was frustrating and here is the continuation.

I've been talking to Mariana see on FB for a few days and the timing just never worked out for us. I knew she was getting a bit frustrated because who wouldn't, although she was still super sweet and never said anything. After Karina was denied entry to the building, I texted her and she said she could be here in an hour and that she is very punctual. Ok, cool, come over. She texts me when the car picks her up, and she texts me to let me know there is traffic and she will be a little late. She arrives 20 min late but good communication throughout so all good.

I like petite, fit women and Mariana is the height I like, probably 5'3' ish but thicker than I usually go for but her photos looked like she just had the most amazing tits. She's not big at all, but definitely slim thick. It really came down to the fact that I needed to see her tits in person. She has a very interesting, unique look to her. We had negotiated days ago so we already knew the deal, 2 pops, oral natural and leche en su boca - 200 k mas taxi (40 k since she's coming from Bello). She said one hour only but it really was just to say that when the 2 pops are done, she's out, which is totally fine.

Some girls I get along with great and its nice to go for round one, then order food, hang out, have another drink, go for round two and make an evening of it, and some chicas just want to smash and go, both are fine, just good to know who is who depending on how I feel.

Anyway, she comes up, kisses, holding my hand, caressing, very affectionate and I get the feeling this is going to be fun. Offer her a beer and turn on some music, she strips down and more kisses. Whoa, her tits her awesome and natural and she loves having them played with. Yes! Minutes later she is giving me the best BBBJ I have had in a long time. Isabella was more sensual, slow, building, more erotic. Mariana is just a suck and fuck machine. Super intense finish in her mouth, her eyes widen, kind of chokes a little and then composes herself, a little more sucking and she goes to the bathroom to clean up.

I go into the kitchen for water and look at her ID on the table. Check this shit out, the ID is not her at all, like 100% obviously not her. Plus the security called me and said "Mariana is here" but the ID has a completely different name as well! WHAT THE FUCK. They refused entry to a chica with her real documents but allowed in a chica who used a cedula that is so blatantly obviously not her. I couldn't fucking believe it.

I head back to the bed and Mariana comes back over to put some songs on that she likes and starts dancing for me, always asking "Te gusta" about her dancing, about her breasts, about her BJ. I'm up again for round 2 and we go through different positions, starting in missionary, moving to her on top, and damn, she can ride, this seems to be common here, all these chicks can ride the shit out of you! Some doggy, which they call en cuatro which I find funny, and then back to missionary where I finish looking at her awesome tits again.

We both shower, clean up, she calls an Uber and is off. Probably ended up being here just shy of an hour and a half. Definitely recommend her. Sweet, affectionate, sensual, intense, relatively on time (granted I think she would have been with more notice) Great ending to an off day.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2429913]. At 6:50 I ask her to send me her location so I can see where she is. She is still home. I tell her not to come and not to message me again, that I can not trust her. 20 minutes later I get a message from her she is in the taxi 10 minutes away. I had another girl linds up before she was in her taxi.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2430485]Clearly you have reading comprehension problems. [/QUOTE]No I do not think I have reading comprehension problems, do you have writing comprehension problems. Did you leave something out? You said that she was originally supposed to arrive at 6:30 the blah blah blah at 6;50 blah blah blah, then you said 20 minutes later, she said she was 10 minutes away, and you told her to turn around. Meaning she is in the taxi and has been for some minutes (unless she wasn't but you did not say that) - then you said "I had another girl lined up before she was in her taxi. It is between the 6:50 and 7:10 mark that you lined up the other girl. You say it was before she got in her taxi so it must have been right around 7:00. But it was the 6:50 time that you had told her not to come. That's 20 minutes. I do not know how you can say that she was over an hour late when you claim the last time you talked to her it was 7:10. My reading is just fine.

I never argued that you handled your situation wrong. I was objecting to you saying that these chicas are like this because of "stupid gringos".

Out of about twenty citas I have only had one chica show up more than thirty minutes late on me, she texted me about the time she should have been leaving Bello and told me she had to work longer and she ended up being about 45 minutes late. She was working as a webcam girl at a studio in Bello. I was talking to a different chica later, not even mentioning the chica that was late, and I brought up the webcam business in a conversation. I had previously been talking to a whole different chica on FB who told me she did webcam and was currently working, so out of curiosity I asked her what was the website and I went there while I was talking to her. I did not log in or anything but over facebook messenger I told her I was watching and wanted to see her tits. And she pulled off her top and those tits were beautiful. She had a gorgeous body, So she said she worked there because they gave her a place to live. That's why I brought it up to her to see if chics actually live in the studio. She said yes and gave me the whole rundown. The studios are ran by LOS Pachelly, the local criminal gang and that chicas "disappear" who do not do what the gangs tell them to do. So going back to the chica who was late because she had to work over, if her boss asked her to stay late, she stayed late. I never did find that webcam girl either, her Facebook page stopped showing activity about a week before I made it to Medellin on that trip, and has not had any activity since. Who knows.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2430733]Thank you, this is super helpful. Many of the girls I am referring to have been "traveling" and just coming back to Medellin the past couple of days. So I'll go ahead and assume that there are guys flying them all around and paying high dollars for their time.[/QUOTE]Maybe you can post the FB links to get some opinions. I am curious too.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2430753]No I do not think I have reading comprehension problems, do you have writing comprehension problems. Did you leave something out? [/QUOTE]At 5:45 she told him she was leaving the house.

At 6:20 she told him she just got into a taxi.

At 6:50 she sent her location and she was actually still at home. This was 1 hour 5 minutes after she told him she left the house, she is still in the mf.

At 7:10 she was in the taxi for real this time and 10 minutes (really 30) from his place.

I figure if at 5:45 she had said I am running a bit behind and will arrive at x time instead of lying that she had left the house already, then all may had been okay. But when she told him she was in the taxi and was really still home even 30 minutes after that, well fuck her. I found somebody else already, even if that someone else was just Palmela and her 5 sisters.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/natalia.aguilarlopez.5[/URL]

This girl was flown to miami and around the world made tons of $$. She had her day. And remember she started at the mansion for 150 mil. Now she won't take anything less than 300 mil for one shot one deal.

Many many girls get sponsored by gringos. The very same ones who lurk this board or just refuse to admit that they fell in love with a hooker.

It happens all the time.

Not a big deal. Problem is when they all have a story why their girl is so different than others.

Keep it moving to the next girl.

The reason why boards like this is tough is because they’re are lurkers who think they’re doing girls favors if we write something bad about them or if their name comes up here etc etc. it’s pretty pathetic if you ask me. This is a board for hookers. So let’s keep it real and move onto the next one.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2430733]Thank you, this is super helpful. Many of the girls I am referring to have been "traveling" and just coming back to Medellin the past couple of days. So I'll go ahead and assume that there are guys flying them all around and paying high dollars for their time.

Paying $3-400 USD is crazy enough, buying them a house and a car, they need to get their head checked out ASAP.

I mean sure, I could pay it, but I could over pay for tons of things if that's how I wanted to handle myself. Well, that's a bummer because I really wanted to see a few of these chicas but as you said, there's tons more.[/QUOTE]If they just came back from a trip, they aren't hungry. Give them 2-3 weeks and they'll be snapping at that 200 k. My suggestion is to chat them nicely, keep it on good terms and move along. When that trip money runs out, maybe they'll hit you up for the 200 k. Once they agree to it, it doesn't matter if you won't be back for 6 months, you should still be able to get in at that price.

I wouldn't tell them it's too much, unless I decided to write them off completely. I'd just tell them maybe another day.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2430789]At 5:45 she told him she was leaving the house.

At 6:20 she told him she just got into a taxi.

At 6:50 she sent her location and she was actually still at home. This was 1 hour 5 minutes after she told him she left the house, she is still in the mf.

At 7:10 she was in the taxi for real this time and 10 minutes (really 30) from his place.

I figure if at 5:45 she had said I am running a bit behind and will arrive at x time instead of lying that she had left the house already, then all may had been okay. But when she told him she was in the taxi and was really still home even 30 minutes after that, well fuck her. I found somebody else already, even if that someone else was just Palmela and her 5 sisters.[/QUOTE]I'm not singling you out. Your post is just one of the shorter ones on the subject.

If you're dealing with a specific group of people, on a regular basis, you can alter their behavior, as demonstrated by John Clayton. If you're dealing with a person one time you can't alter their behavior. All you can control is how you deal with it.

Nobody is wrong for either canceling or waiting for a late chica. It's your time, your decision. All I've been saying is that it's not hard to avoid the issue. Which one of us wants to admit we can't outwit a 20 year old Colombiana?

Re: making appointments ahead of time vs. Last minute. You make appointments well in advance (12 hours) for girls you choose to see. Your last minute appointments tend to be with whoever is online looking for a customer. She's less likely to be late, because she's ready and waiting for someone to give her a call. If you've got a list of 5 and you want to see one at 10 pm, if you wait until 9 pm to set something up, you're probably not getting one of those 5. If you do, she's not going to be there by 10.

And I'm 100% behind you on the lying about being on the way. I'm not putting up with that. Next!

I want to make note I have not been to Lleras yet. My plane lands and the process through the airport is swift. Check the cambio at the airport the rate is basically 2600 pesos versus the dollar so it's a big hit if you entertain it. Took the white public service taxi to Laureles no problem. 80000. Driver was very happy with the money. Laureles is like living in New York. High rises and restaurants everywhere. Safe area to me. Nicely centered. I am in a secured building, guest friendly, fingerprint needed to leave apartment so your guest cannot just get up and leave without you. Okay I have fucked everyday. It's not hard to do in Medellin and I want to add I am very cheap. So far I have used tinder mostly, one casa, and Instagram. Laureles has many casas and prepagos. I literally walk 4 blocks to one to get exercise but taxis are everywhere. I have used yellow taxis mainly cause they are readily accessible also cheap, metered operated. And from my estimation probably just a dollar more. So far lots of short Colombian and Venezuelan girls on tinder. I mean under 5 ft. I am a tall girl lover so it's a problem for me. Centro was packed with people, restaurants, fruit vendors, and things to buy, but the street walkers were slim to none in quality. Did not make it to casas, strip clubs in that area. Heard variety of prices. 50 k, 30 k, 25 k. Taxi was $3. The highest amount I have paid so far for sex is $40. Most of my dates I gave cheap gifts and taxi money. English speakers few, English channels on tv few. Paying for the girls taxi is a big thing here. I have rarely done it mongering. But I have done it here. I have only had one bad but not so bad encounter. The girl tried to start the clock at arrival rather than start of intimacy and I asked her specifically when should the clock start. So I lost time my entertaining and socializing but the uncovered blow job was great. Check identification on arrival and show it to security with the girl for your own leverage, clarify if meeting is regular date or business. Most girls who are regular will suck dick without condoms, casas you pay extra. And that's my first week report.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2430496]It appears you are confused about the meaning of respect. 99% of these girls have no respect for you, me or any other monger. They're showing up to do a job, usually for a complete stranger. You can treat them like shit, or you can treat them like a queen and you'll end up with the same amount of respect. The bottom line is did you pay? If so, then they'll decide whether it's worth seeing you again. Nothing to do with respect, just her evaluation of the work environment.

You honestly think the Colombian girls are showing up on time for the Colombian men? LOL! The Colombian men know that 9:30 means 11:00. Paisas being late has zero to do with gringos. It's the national pasttime. It doesn't matter what type of appointment you're trying to make. They're not going to be on time. Talk to some of the gringos running businesses in Colombia. The clock means almost nothing to them.

I always get some "tail" when I want. No hoping required. I also rarely have any problems with girls being late, even though girls are always late. It's simple. I understand how things work. I don't try to change an entire country to meet my needs. I don't set myself to get pissed off and fail to succeed at the sole reason why I traveled to the country.

I'll repeat it again. Work into their schedule, instead of working them into your schedule. Adjust your expectations to fit their reality. Surely you've been around women at some point in your life. What does it mean when a woman (any nationality) tells you "I'll be ready in 5 minutes?" It means, sit down and get comfortable, you've got at least 20 minutes to kill. If you tell her to meet you at a restaurant at 9 pm, she's not walking in until 9:15. Colombians are no different. Set something up for 4 pm, when a taxi is going to take 30-45 minutes to get to you and she's still not walking out the door until 4:15. Very few of them will ever think about the travel time or traffic.

If you know she's not leaving until 4:15 for your 4 pm appointment, then why hold the unreasonable expectation that she'll be at your door at 4:20 or 4:30? Set your appointment at 3 and she'll be there between 4 and 4:30. Set it for 4 and she'll arrive between 5 and 5:30. Tell her one time and expect the other. Consider it a different time zone, if that helps.

Is your method working? How often do you have an issue with a girl being seriously late, or telling her not to bother coming? How often do you have to resort to a backup plan? What's the average wait time for plan "be" to arrive?

My method works for me over 90% of the time. I don't have to scramble to find a replacement. I don't have to wait for the replacement. I don't have to deal with finding a replacement for the replacement, because she's not going to be on time either.[/QUOTE]I am willing to and have had relations with pros and non-pros who have been late, some very late and always make adjustments for that. If a girl tells me that she is in a taxi 20 minutes away and half an hour later she tells me that she is about to leave home that shows she has no respect for me. I'll accept that you think the girl still respects you. We have different levels of what is acceptable.

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2430664]I'm not here too toot my own horn to give away my Facebook contacts. Just wanted to speak to a few of the new open-minded users. I like this new school of mongers!! I'm not that guy that argues on here or wants to knock anyone's methods or prices their willing to pay. Facebook has been a huge tool. When I started Mongering Medellin I was blown away by the amount of talent there. My first approach was just boots on the ground gold searching. I never tried SA because I don't want the expensive subscription. I tried Tinder and that works great for when you are there unless you buy the subscription. But Facebook has been the biggest gem ever for me. I have received so many free and paid appointments from there that it's crazy.

I've learned so much by interacting with the girls on there that it is literally my immediate go to when chica hunting. During those odd hours during the day hungover in your hotel. When trying to see where the locals party too. Or just trying to Red Shirt a dime you might not find walking the streets or in a bar. Of course PP and Miller are great. But FB has changed the game for me, if set up correctly. It's so simple and a great foot in the door. I literally have almost 1000 women in MDE on my friends list. I can't keep up with the inbox conversations. Barring fake accounts and a bunch of questionable semi pros. It is an amazing mechanism.

I've posted tips on how to setup the Facebook game but it takes patience to grow. But we'll worth it.[/QUOTE]I'm heading back for my third trip in two weeks. Staying a week this time. I have about 400 friends on my fake Facebook. I had such a great time in Facebook and I only pay max 200 k. And get everything. I haven't been disappointed yet. All my girls have good attitudes and enjoy my time. I have added my self to toe chica lists where I get updated on girls available. I don't have to ask for photos I point and go. Lau Gomez will send you girls. I have 2 sisters that I enjoy and will take them to San Andres for a night on my next trip. Two 100 dollar plane trips I don't want to repeat but they are the hottest girls in my fb so I will continue to use them. I have a regular 19 why / o novia that is beautiful setting me up for the long game and a model girl but she about to. E dropped for begging to much. I try not to talk to the super hot ones until a week before I get there. I'm going to go to San Andres probably twice on this trip. Once with regular and once with prepay girl. FB is awesome.

I was recently in Medellin in January for a very short stay, and one of my Vennie's that I frequently see tried to pull a fast one over on me. She knew I was coming and she knew what I wanted as we had communicated frequently. Once I arrived in Medellin the BS immediately began. She demanded a super large amount of money from me for a date. I thought it was a joke, but she did not budge. I was not going to pay the amount but she did not know this, so I chose to have dates with other girls who were readily available.

In the process of being in Medellin Saturday to Monday, I ended up banging 16 chics in that time frame and paid less with the 16 chics than I would have paid with seeing her 2 times. The entire experience was weird, strange, and baffled me. I decided to accept that someone had blew her head up or made her think that she could command the type of money she was asking me for, but I was never willing to pay what she was asking.

After I left Medellin and returned to America, she began to contact me nearly every day, but the problem was she had already screwed up in my book. I had helped this girl get dates with other BMs and still she was trying to stiff me while I was in Medellin for the weekend. Here is where everything gets real and the stupidity and boldness emerges, she lost more than $1,200,000 in dates that she would have had with me and she lost many other clients who communicate with me through this board and other social media formats. Another Venny that I established a relationship with explained in great detail about how this Venny only had American Clients and did very little to earn good money.

I immediately blocked my old Venny and communicated through the new Venny contact and the new Venny explained that they all lived in the same community, but the old venny had a better home with many rooms and Wifi, the old venny ended up losing her apartment, and trust me she contacted me several times through random numbers, I politely reminded her that, in America, we treat people the way they treat us, so don't ask for favors and do not ask me for recommendations from my American Friends. Come to find out that the new Venny moved into the old Vennie's apartment and the old vennie is now staying in the new vennie's old apartment, which is just a studio no refrigerator, no microwave, no AC, just a damn box if you ask me. But you have to be extremely Bold to risk losing your guaranteed money, now your home, and now you're back to begging me for help, I will never help her or recommend any of my friends to her. Now you clearly see why many Vennies are in a situation of disparity within Colombia, the choices that you make will define or destroy you! Pollo Negro is out!

Anyone happen to know who she is?

She just favorited me on SA but I'm not down to pay $90 again just to be told 500 k+.

Not sure if you can see her photos without an account (don't have to pay for that) but I attached a photo.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4a454aa4-266b-439b-8b96-f6251be6f24f?&locale=en_US[/URL]

If anyone here knows her or her FB, please PM me and I'll return the favor. Thanks!

I got into Medellin a couple of days ago.

First night I had a Venezuelan girl at my hotel. I wish the hotels weren't so strict for letting girls in. She was tall, 175. Her name is Barbie on SA. She's only in Columbia for a month based on the visa.

Second night I saw Hanna at Escort Fantasia. Amazing experience. First time I came standing, holder her up with my arms as she rode me till I came.

Third night I'm going to go for an SA girl again tonight. We'll see how it goes.

Umm as for the mansion.

I went to house 1 yesterday 'LE bar' for 50 k. Crickets man. Crickets.

You all seem to be paying way too much for companionship here. I'm almost speechless. Get a grip, you're being steam-rolled, just like you have back in your home country. You're clearly unaware of how much these girls are lacking for funds. The competition for female companionship pesos is absolutely fierce.
The problem is that your visits are too short. You get 183 days each calendar year on passport stamps. Use them and get in the flow of life and socialization here. You'll be stunned how far your propinas wlll fall.
Every time you repeat with a particular girl the price should come DOWN until a floor is reached. Create networks. Before you know it beautiful girls will be calling YOU with low ball offers. Or, some just want to come hang out with you for almost nothing, just to escape their reality for a couple of hours.
.. but I have a job, a mortgage, a wife back home... sucks to be you doesn't it ? just kidding, we're all learning how our past creates our present.. and we've been led astray by conventional lifestyle "wisdom"

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2430697]The answer is YES. They are getting it from elsewhere. They will come down in price when they are desperate.

But there are different levels of girls. I'm not talking about Vennies or El Centro girls.

My advice is once a girl turns you down keep it moving to the next one. This is the land of hot girls. Youll eventually find what you're looking for.[/QUOTE]Pure facts bruva!

Here's some Chica insight from the horses mouth:

In my time I have befriended a lot of working girls. I always build a personal relationship with them outside of the pop sessions. To me it increases the sexual connection. But that's because I see them as valuable resources to other things. I find out where they party when not working / semi working and how they operate. It tells me where to find similar women. A lot of these These girls are normal girls stuck in a crazy life of survival. Their looks and sex are their bait to bring in Income. A huge portion of girls in this industry have little to know formal education but they have one very important thing a lot of us lack and that's street smarts. I've had my share of fails in Colombia and I openly share them on this board. No cares of other vets opinions on how I over paid, got stolen from or whatever. But I can promise you. I win 1 million times more than I lose. At least in my opinion, and that's the only one I care about. I recommend you take the same approach. I now smash a lot of the girls guys pay 600 k in Gustos for free or at minimum prices. Maybe not the first night hahaha but down the road I get the right price in my book.

I probe alot of my hottest chicas that work and after the gringo guard goes down for her, they become open books. I build relationships rather than Hi and bye and this is paying off. Here's what I learned for those that might not have experience with them. Their price is based on How you met them, where you met them, their current financial situation at the time you meet them, and how they see you!

Time:

Obviously a chica that received a message from us at 10 am is just starting her day. She is trying to have a successful day and start off on the right foot. So she might go high earlier just to have money to shop with later that afternoon or to buy groceries etc etc. So the 10 am response will be similar to her last night response depending on how last night went. If she spent the night out working or just returned from an expensive all nighter and made great money and isn't desperate at the moment, she might go high on the price. If she had a horrible night and spent hours walking the clubs and streets with no customers. That price will go down. But only to an extent. Every girl has a bottom line price. That number fluctuates depending on how she is feeling at the time your message comes in and the convenience factor. If you are staying in Parque llares And so is she somewhere in Poblado, she might shave 50 k off her number or more. Just to make a quick buck. She will take note of where she met you though and will price similar to that price point of the location you two first engaged. The catch are there are lots of girls that work all the different places ie clubs, casa, massage parlors, photoprepaggos, fb, Gustos, strip clubs etc etc. Those girl prices can be unpredictable. Again the time is everything. If you meet her in a cheap place set that bar. So if you see her else where you have bargaing chips. Don't just let her set the price either. Tell her your price point and let her agree or disagree. If she raised it 100 k. How much is that $30 to you. If she raised it 300 k. How much is that extra $100 dollars to you. I'd personally pass. Or just get her number and friendzone her until she gets desperate later in life. It will happen. She will pretend she has an emergency and knock the head off of the price.

Where:

Same chica. Meets you in Gustos. Again She has a going rate of the club to take in consideration. If she goes to the club say Gustos again. She is aware of her demand in there vs the other girls. If her half decent friend is charging 400 k you better believe she will go higher. If she feels like the hottest chick there and confidence is bubbling and men are tapping her every few seconds she will stay firm at the most expensive price possible until those taps slow down. If she gets enough rejections she will adjust. But don't let Gustos fool you. If she leaves alone because noone bit at her price, I can almost guarantee she will contact one of her customers in her phone that will pay her within her realistic price range. That's when my phone starts dinging hahahaha. That same girl will have a Milleroticos post or PP post with her face blurred out and ask almost half of what she ask in a club environment. She might even work a massage parlor or a casa for even less. So where you meet her has a huge impact. Take a girl street walking in Centro and you might be astonished by her price. But know they know that in their current location, what the other girls charge and she will price accordingly based on where she fits in comparison to her competition there! Street smarts. They have it!

You.

This is where our street smarts have to come in. Just as she has a price, so should we. You know what your budget is per girl. Quoting little Wayne. "it's like as soon as I cum. I come to my senses". Think about that when agreeing to the price. You see her. Like her. The price is what you would expect to pay, I normally agree right away. No haggling. That always dampers the mood, as the lower she drops the price the less interest she has in my opinion. And the more likely she is to flake if it's on a text. Or the less you will get that text that I get after she realizes she needs to seal a deal immediately. If she throws you an obviously fair price and you try to low ball her how do you expect her to go above and beyond for you. 10 minutes in she will be asking you to "leche". Jajaja I recommend knowing the price point of your location and fish in lakes based on your available bait (money). You see a stunner in Gustos but only have 150 k pesos. Bro. Forget about it. Go where your money has its value. Find her twin in a casa or on a site like photoprepaggos. Hell I hear you can even find dimes street walking which I will confirm for myself next week. !If you are in the mood to visit a club knowing the price will be much higher than the chick you banged in Centro for 35 or 80 k expect a night of turn downs until you find a unicorn. If you are wanting to party and drink in the environment of expense expect a higher price point. They do the same. And go where their vaginas have the most value as we should with our spendable dollars.

If they want the ballers they go where the ballers gather. If they want a quick buck, they go to the other places where men pay less. Mps and casas. Get there numbers in the cheap places and tell her "I'd rather pay you the full price they charge here in this place later" because she makes half of what the casa charges you. Half! If you paid 80 k, she made 40 k. You would have never thought that dime in Gustos realistic price point was that low. Well it is depending on time, location, and need. They just don't always need it at that particular moment. Hell some of them never do need it as they have customers lined up back to back. Some struggle to find a customer a week! Depending on where you meet her will give you some insight on what to expect. That's why a lot of peeps avoid the Clubs. I work all of the locations when in hunt mode just like they do.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2430698]You are right. But it IS my mission to make sure MY business dealings go smoothly. That includes not accepting mfs that will be late for no apparent reason and wasting my damn time. Any excuse that a chick has, she should be able to tell you well ahead of time, hey this is going on so I will be a little late. It is not the fact that she is rumning late, but it is the "fuck you you do not deserve truthful updates when you are waiting on me" that is the problem.

When it is time to go to a normal job the whole staff is not 2 hours late on some culture shit. When it is time to catch a flight they are not 2 hours late on some culture shit. When the delivery man comes with a new refrigerator they are not 2 hours late on some culture shit. When it is time to pick the kid up from school or the sitters they are not 2 hours late on some culture shit. They are only 2 hours late on some culture shit when our rusty asses are waiting for them. That is plain to see. [/QUOTE]I agree, a phone call to let you know they are running late would help. I have experienced that as well as being on time from many but those are girls who have learned that gringos expect punctuality and it's good for their business. As far as being normal employees, that's not the case. They are all freelancers. Unless they work for you 8 to 10 hours away, 6 days a week. They are not anybodies employee and do you really expect a freelancer to behave like a real employee?

My experience is different. 1 hour late for even their own birthday party is common. My education is different than yours too so we may see things a little different. I have a BA in International Studies with a minor in Latin American Studies. I'm not so business minded. Maybe I should have been, I could be living a much more lux life in retirement and before but am doing OK as things turned out.

As a kid my family was always late for parties etc and I hated it and it was always an hour late. I still do hate to wait, so I don't. No reason to get upset just move on to the next. Now if a freelancer is on time and performs well, I may call her back for more. But for me the best rule is only once or twice. More than that the games and novia shirt start.

I also had a very interesting class in Commercial Latin America and things are much different. If I remember correctly, 60% of the economy is underground / black market and unregulated. Their history and culture are much different than ours.

Keep it simple and enjoy it in anyway you can but getting pissed is a waste of time.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2430885]Anyone happen to know who she is?

She just favorited me on SA but I'm not down to pay $90 again just to be told 500 k+.

Not sure if you can see her photos without an account (don't have to pay for that) but I attached a photo.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4a454aa4-266b-439b-8b96-f6251be6f24f?&locale=en_US[/URL]

If anyone here knows her or her FB, please PM me and I'll return the favor. Thanks![/QUOTE]I have a non payed account on SA and yes you can see photos, of course you can't see the private photos unless they give you permission but you can still see them without a paid account if they do give you permission.

I did a quick search and did not find a member with the user name "Ani" , is this the whole user name?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2430926]
I did a quick search and did not find a member with the user name "Ani" , is this the whole user name?[/QUOTE]It's anii9009.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2430679]Finally got in touch with 5 chicas that were at the top of my list to see. Normal niceties in the beginning and say I'd like 2 hours, 2 pops, they ask how much I offer. I say 200 k mas taxi. All 5 say no way, that is very low money and they will not come. I ask how much they ask for, and they all say between 400 k-500 k mas taxi!!

I say no way, that's way too much and I've never been asked for that much, which is true. I say, lets find something that works for us both, because I would see them 3-4 times over the next 10 days, and they say, no thank you, have a good day. Granted they are stunners, total 10's, but really? Are they getting that much? 5 chicas just turned down 1. 2 m pesos over the next week from me (300 k x 4 times). Hard to believe.

I had Karina come back over because she's easy to communicate and schedule with and we have a great time together. She only has her passport and renuncia, which I guess is something you get when your cedula is stolen. She has been here twice now no problems. The security guard tonight won't let her in, we argue for almost an hour, call the supervisor and they say the renuncia is too old (from February. What? She should get a new one and it will be okay. We're both pissed the fuck off. No answer as to why it was okay two days ago, this particular security guard is just being difficult for no reason.

Karina is super sweet about it, I pay her ubers plus extra because I feel terrible for wasting her time, but she's all good about it and says she will go to the police station and get a new renuncia tomorrow.

Now I have a new chica on the way, will be be here in an hour. Happy about that but still feel terrible for wasting Karina's time, I will make it up to her though. Will report on new chica later tonight.[/QUOTE]Mind sharing the links to these 5 who were asking for this much money? Maybe they don't ask this from every guy that hits them up. I've spoken to over 50 Facebook girls and the most I've been asked for is 300 k. I've had a girl from la isla quote me 400 k for a date outside the club. It's sad done guys are out here paying these prices. And some are paying this for average looking women in my eyes. I can understand stunners although I don't agree with it but average looking women is just mind boggling. But I guess some guys just got it like that or just aren't used to getting girls back from where they come from. Anyways I left Medellin yesterday but would definitely hit them up to see what they talking about.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2430844]I am willing to and have had relations with pros and non-pros who have been late, some very late and always make adjustments for that. If a girl tells me that she is in a taxi 20 minutes away and half an hour later she tells me that she is about to leave home that shows she has no respect for me. I'll accept that you think the girl still respects you. We have different levels of what is acceptable.[/QUOTE]There you go using that word again. "Respect. ".

I don't think any of the girls in Medellin respect me. I don't go there to get respect. I'm not paying anyone for respect. If I want respect, I'll go sit down in my boss's office and say "we need to talk."

If a girl pulls that crap, dump her. No problem. But she has the same respect for you as the girl who always shows up on time. She's just not bright enough to understand how to make money.

You want to find out how much the girls respect you? Pick out a regular. Set up a date. Two hours before the date message her that you're sick with food poisoning. Does she offer to pick up something from a pharmacy and bring it to you? Does she offer to come help you until you feel better? Without also expecting to be paid? Or is her main concern over when you'll feel good enough to rent her services? Or tell her you were robbed and you won't be able to pay her for 2 days. Think she's still showing up on time?

Nobody is running around sucking dick because they respect the guy face fucking them.

The rate at the airport of 2600 is it for American dollar or Canadian? It seems really low for American dollar.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2430819]I want to make note I have not been to Lleras yet. My plane lands and the process through the airport is swift. Check the cambio at the airport the rate is basically 2600 pesos versus the dollar so it's a big hit if you entertain it. Took the white public service taxi to Laureles no problem. 80000. Driver was very happy with the money. Laureles is like living in New York. High rises and restaurants everywhere. Safe area to me. Nicely centered. I am in a secured building, guest friendly, fingerprint needed to leave apartment so your guest cannot just get up and leave without you. Okay I have fucked everyday. It's not hard to do in Medellin and I want to add I am very cheap. So far I have used tinder mostly, one casa, and Instagram. Laureles has many casas and prepagos. I literally walk 4 blocks to one to get exercise but taxis are everywhere. I have used yellow taxis mainly cause they are readily accessible also cheap, metered operated. And from my estimation probably just a dollar more. So far lots of short Colombian and Venezuelan girls on tinder. I mean under 5 ft. I am a tall girl lover so it's a problem for me. Centro was packed with people, restaurants, fruit vendors, and things to buy, but the street walkers were slim to none in quality. Did not make it to casas, strip clubs in that area. Heard variety of prices. 50 k, 30 k, 25 k. Taxi was $3. The highest amount I have paid so far for sex is $40. Most of my dates I gave cheap gifts and taxi money. English speakers few, English channels on tv few. Paying for the girls taxi is a big thing here. I have rarely done it mongering. But I have done it here. I have only had one bad but not so bad encounter. The girl tried to start the clock at arrival rather than start of intimacy and I asked her specifically when should the clock start. So I lost time my entertaining and socializing but the uncovered blow job was great. Check identification on arrival and show it to security with the girl for your own leverage, clarify if meeting is regular date or business. Most girls who are regular will suck dick without condoms, casas you pay extra. And that's my first week report.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2430789]At 5:45 she told him she was leaving the house.

At 6:20 she told him she just got into a taxi.

At 6:50 she sent her location and she was actually still at home. This was 1 hour 5 minutes after she told him she left the house, she is still in the mf.

At 7:10 she was in the taxi for real this time and 10 minutes (really 30) from his place.

I figure if at 5:45 she had said I am running a bit behind and will arrive at x time instead of lying that she had left the house already, then all may had been okay. But when she told him she was in the taxi and was really still home even 30 minutes after that, well fuck her. I found somebody else already, even if that someone else was just Palmela and her 5 sisters.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=MrEnternational;2430789]At 5:45 she told him she was leaving the house.

At 6:20 she told him she just got into a taxi.

At 6:50 she sent her location and she was actually still at home. This was 1 hour 5 minutes after she told him she left the house, she is still in the mf.

At 7:10 she was in the taxi for real this time and 10 minutes (really 30) from his place.

I figure if at 5:45 she had said I am running a bit behind and will arrive at x time instead of lying that she had left the house already, then all may had been okay. But when she told him she was in the taxi and was really still home even 30 minutes after that, well fuck her. I found somebody else already, even if that someone else was just Palmela and her 5 sisters.[/QUOTE]I see both points.

Very high chance she had another appointment in between the time she was planning on leaving vs the time she left. All it takes is for a regular customer to pop up for a 30 min session and in her head "I have time" now her timing goes to shit. I know this happens because I've done it myself. Chica says I have an appointment at blah blah time. How soon can you get here. Especially the ones that are seeing customers often back to back in those shared apartments they go in on. The fact that she sent you her location while at home is a red flag as a lot try to keep that private unless it's her shared sex cave.

Or she could have plans after him and wanted to get completely ready for the evening of work so she doesn't have to go back home.

Or she could just be a slow dresser and wanted to impress him by getting dolled up to the max to give him an amazing session.

Or. Or. Or. Or. Hahaha we will never know. I'm with you on this one though but can be wrong. Whatever the scenario I doubt she was this honest school girl with what really happened. He had a few lined up and I bet she did too.

I'm certain I never tell my boss the real reason I was late to work. LOL.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2430867]First off I would like to say thanks to Nounce, he helped me to set up a business that allowed me to make US currency while being abroad and I never knew it would be a success, but it has been. So starting real soon, I will be in Medellin for the next 3 months. Then depending on how much money I earn while I am in Medellin, it will determine how long I will stay in Medellin. I can assure you and anyone one the board that money isn't a issue, and now time isn't an issue, so I have the two factors that I needed in order to spend more time in Medellin. With that being said, it does not mean that I will go buckwild and throw parties all over Medellin like I once did.

I hear about guys who know girls who are flown all over the world, but have I ever seen or met these girls? No! Do you know why? There are 2 reasons why, the Guys from the board who do know and see these girls are paying a megaton of money to date these chics and are embarrassed about what they are spending and don't want you and I to judge them, so don't worry, you will always hear about these outrageous stories, but you will more than likely never see them. The second reason that you never see these chics is because they don't exist, its all a made up story. Guys from this board and others create outlandish stories in hopes you'll chime in, but guess what, what another monger eats doesn't make me sh!t.[/QUOTE]I have met some of those "flown all over the world" girls. It really happens. When a girl is posting pics from Paris, Amsterdam, Venice, etc, for 3 weeks straight, I'm pretty sure someone is picking up the tab. Whether it's Punta Cana, or Cancun, or Rome, there are really guys dropping that kind of money.

At any given time 3-5 girls on my Facebook are traveling. Mexico is common, as is the DR. Europe is also not rare. Haven't seen any make it to Asia or Australia yet.

You're correct about not wasting time on them. There are too many other girls who will treat you better.

If you're considering taking classes to extend your Visa, here's some information. If you prepay for 3 months of classes at an accredited school, you qualify for a 6 month student visa. Paying for 6 months will get you a 1 year visa. 5 years of student visas, without a break of more than 6 months qualifies you for a permanent resident visa.

If you're considering spending most of your time in Colombia you can work it like this:

1. Spend the first 3 months on your tourist stamp.

2. Before it runs out apply at a university. Classes run about $100, except the Spanish for foreigners classes which cost about $300. Pay for 3 months of classes to get a 6 month visa.

3. At the end of the 6 month visa, go home for a few days and return for another 3 month tourist visa.

4. Pay for more classes. Repeat as necessary.

Or pay for 6 months at a time and just stay on the student visa year round.

I'll look for you in El Centro around the end of April.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2430885]Anyone happen to know who she is?

She just favorited me on SA but I'm not down to pay $90 again just to be told 500 k+.

Not sure if you can see her photos without an account (don't have to pay for that) but I attached a photo.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4a454aa4-266b-439b-8b96-f6251be6f24f?&locale=en_US[/URL]

If anyone here knows her or her FB, please PM me and I'll return the favor. Thanks![/QUOTE]I don't know who she is but I have seen a million of girls there that look just like her. Her price escalated for a reason. Rather it be she thought she had a desperate gringo that doesn't know better or she wanted to try her luck at a big score. She also might have had a slight bidding war going on where someone offered her more money at the time and whoever paid the most she would go with. Based on her look she is attractive but can easily be found in all the locations for hunting. Same girl different name. I wouldn't have even responded back after the she raised the price.

[QUOTE=Fassima;2430949]The rate at the airport of 2600 is it for American dollar or Canadian? It seems really low for American dollar.[/QUOTE]Yea, I laughed in their face. Don't do that. Its for USD. ATMS are giving over 3400 right now.

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2430846]I'm going to go to San Andres probably twice on this trip. Once with regular and once with prepay girl.[/QUOTE]San Andres is nice, but I don't think it is nice enough to go twice on the same trip. First you have to pay for that damn tourist card. You can go around the entire island in 45 minutes. There are only a couple of sights to see. You can always just be lazy on the beach though. After seeing the big prices on hotels, I was surpised to see the prices of everything else on the island (besides renting a scooter or mule. Better to get the scooter by the way) were pretty reasonable.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2430969]Yea, I laughed in their face. Don't do that. Its for USD. ATMS are giving over 3400 right now.[/QUOTE]I got 3590 at Scotiabank the other day.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2430789]At 5:45 she told him she was leaving the house.

At 6:20 she told him she just got into a taxi.

At 6:50 she sent her location and she was actually still at home. This was 1 hour 5 minutes after she told him she left the house, she is still in the mf.

At 7:10 she was in the taxi for real this time and 10 minutes (really 30) from his place.

I figure if at 5:45 she had said I am running a bit behind and will arrive at x time instead of lying that she had left the house already, then all may had been okay. But when she told him she was in the taxi and was really still home even 30 minutes after that, well fuck her. I found somebody else already, even if that someone else was just Palmela and her 5 sisters.[/QUOTE]I get his point that point that by the time she got there, she would have been an hour late. When I said he gave her 30 minutes, I was referring to how long she was behind at the time he called another chica.

It's his time and money and I have myself, as I have previously posted, blocked chicas for giving me a bullshit story.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2430942]It's anii9009.[/QUOTE]I found her on SA but she only has one photo that is not private and in that photo her phone is blocking her face. I don't recognize her from the photo you posted. I have seen a handful of chicas on SA that I have also seen on FB, I have over 1300 profiles on FB so I obviously can't remember all the photos I have seen. Sorry I can't be more helpful. I requested to see her private photos, if she gives me access and I recognize her I will send you a PM.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2431000]I requested to see her private photos, if she gives me access and I recognize her I will send you a PM.[/QUOTE]AS attached one of her private pictures with face in his original post. Here is another one.

I used up all the data on my local simcard the day before and refilling it through the phone wasn't working. I was told to go to Santa Fe to refill it and to register the phone since the store in Monterrey Mall wasn't able to do it.

Santa Fe Mall is huge, and modern, and beautiful. The view from the foodcourt is awesome. This is a really nice mall! Again, Medellin surprises me. Well, Claro here tells me I need to go to Premium Plaza to get the phone registered but I can re-fill the data. That's fine. 2 gb for 20 k pesos. Done.

I walk around the mall for awhile just to kill time cause it was early around 10:30 am and I had nothing else to do. I saw my perfect woman (gorgeous, megan fox looking, petite, thin, incredible eyes and smile, insane beauty) working at one of the pharmacies and went in, and asked her if I could take her to dinner.

Me: Hola, Como estas?

Her: Bien, why tu?

Me: Puedo llevarte a cenar?

Her: yo?! (she looks surprised).

Me: Si, claro.

Her: No, no gracias (chuckling).

Me: Porque no? No eres interesado o tienes novio? Cualquier lugar quieres.

Her: She pauses, looks like she is about to say yes, and then says a ton of shit I don't understand LOL.

Me: Como? No entiendo, dime.

Her: (She picks up her phone to translate) A customer walks in. The mood gets shot, she says ah lo siento, no gracias.

Me: Ok, dale. Tenga un buen theía.

Her: Igualmente.

I plan to go back in a week and ask again LOL. She seemed really surprised and caught off guard. I'm curious what she was trying to tell me.

Got home and ordered ajiaco from Kokorico. My throats been kind of dry and irritated today but I feel fine, I think its from the poor air quality today. Ajiaco is kind of like Colombian chicken soup and similar to sancocho, it comes with rice, avocado, arepas. $7 delivered and definitely worth it if you're wanting soup.

Working on choosing a date for tonight. Have a couple new options, but it's about time to make a decision. Part 2 coming later tonight post cita.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2430885]Anyone happen to know who she is?

She just favorited me on SA but I'm not down to pay $90 again just to be told 500 k+.

Not sure if you can see her photos without an account (don't have to pay for that) but I attached a photo.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4a454aa4-266b-439b-8b96-f6251be6f24f?&locale=en_US[/URL]

If anyone here knows her or her FB, please PM me and I'll return the favor. Thanks![/QUOTE]I believe she can be had for 200 k. She's available thru a girl that has a deep lineup, and that is the common asking price. Maybe 250 k. Not sure if she would be asking more on SA, though. PM me if you want the number for the plug. I might have her number in my phone, but I can't remember her name, and I deleted the old conversation with the madame.

[QUOTE=Drunkmunky;2430888]I got into Medellin a couple of days ago.

First night I had a Venezuelan girl at my hotel. I wish the hotels weren't so strict for letting girls in. She was tall, 175. Her name is Barbie on SA. She's only in Columbia for a month based on the visa.

Second night I saw Hanna at Escort Fantasia. Amazing experience. First time I came standing, holder her up with my arms as she rode me till I came.

Third night I'm going to go for an SA girl again tonight. We'll see how it goes.

Umm as for the mansion.

I went to house 1 yesterday 'LE bar' for 50 k. Crickets man. Crickets.[/QUOTE]Yeah, "LE Bar" is a total crapshoot.

It can be you and two girls.

It can be you and 20 girls.

It could be you, six other guys and 2 girls.

It could be you, eight other guys and 25 girls.

Usually it depends on a special event like a birthday or some other pre-announced party.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2430965]If you're considering spending most of your time in Colombia you can work it like this:

1. Spend the first 3 months on your tourist stamp.

2. Before it runs out apply at a university. Classes run about $100, except the Spanish for foreigners classes which cost about $300. Pay for 3 months of classes to get a 6 month visa.

3. At the end of the 6 month visa, go home for a few days and return for another 3 month tourist visa.

4. Pay for more classes. Repeat as necessary.

Or pay for 6 months at a time and just stay on the student visa year round.

I'll look for you in El Centro around the end of April.[/QUOTE]Another option is to obtain an "investors visa in Real Estate " which will give you residency in the Country as long as you maintain the investment which can be an apartment, however you have to invest at least $ 175,000 USD. This can be a great option for someone looking to retire here who has the bucks and in essence you end up with the equivalent of a "green card".

[QUOTE=MilkDog08;2430846]I'm heading back for my third trip in two weeks. Staying a week this time. I have about 400 friends on my fake Facebook. I had such a great time in Facebook and I only pay max 200 k. And get everything. I haven't been disappointed yet. All my girls have good attitudes and enjoy my time. I have added my self to toe chica lists where I get updated on girls available. I don't have to ask for photos I point and go. Lau Gomez will send you girls. I have 2 sisters that I enjoy and will take them to San Andres for a night on my next trip. Two 100 dollar plane trips I don't want to repeat but they are the hottest girls in my fb so I will continue to use them. I have a regular 19 why / o novia that is beautiful setting me up for the long game and a model girl but she about to. E dropped for begging to much. I try not to talk to the super hot ones until a week before I get there. I'm going to go to San Andres probably twice on this trip. Once with regular and once with prepay girl. FB is awesome.[/QUOTE]Hey all,

I figured I'd introduce myself and then go back to lurking. Heading to Medellin in November, started pipelining on tinder and facebook and the talent is amazing. I'm 32, ex military, and still in fairly good shape so tinder has been good but I'm wondering if its necessary. I'll be staying Hotel M because I was informed its where my happy ass should go if I can't manage Spanish too well. My last few days I'll be staying at Energy Living. I'm waiting for the $25.00 BTC to settle into coinbase and get behind the pay wall here but tips would be great!

I was confused on what chica list meant and 'Lau Gomez'. Let me know if anyone is going to be in Medellin late Nov. To early December!

Visited on Thursday around 100 pm. Big lineup of chicas. Selected the last one in the lineup. She is from Venezuela.

The price is 160 mil for one hour. Only one pop and massage. The lineup was worse than new life.

The vennie was cute with a nice natural rack. Has a one year old child back home.

No mouth kissing but uncovered BJ. Nice ass with good cowgirl from both sides. Decent massage as well.

Probably will not return. New life is a much better value proposition minus the intimacy and quality of the facility.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2430946]There you go using that word again. "Respect. ".

I don't think any of the girls in Medellin respect me. I don't go there to get respect. I'm not paying anyone for respect. If I want respect, I'll go sit down in my boss's office and say "we need to talk."

If a girl pulls that crap, dump her. No problem. But she has the same respect for you as the girl who always shows up on time. She's just not bright enough to understand how to make money.

You want to find out how much the girls respect you? Pick out a regular. Set up a date. Two hours before the date message her that you're sick with food poisoning. Does she offer to pick up something from a pharmacy and bring it to you? Does she offer to come help you until you feel better? Without also expecting to be paid? Or is her main concern over when you'll feel good enough to rent her services? Or tell her you were robbed and you won't be able to pay her for 2 days. Think she's still showing up on time?

Nobody is running around sucking dick because they respect the guy face fucking them.[/QUOTE]This "Respect" Rant should be a sticky post! Well said. To sum it up, our penises are seeking a wet vagina and a nut, not respect? Done. LOL.

Hey everyone,

First timer in Medellin, does anyone have any general tips? I'm seeing a lot of SA and Facebook links. Do we just go find girls on there? I'm also curious about where I should stay, and the easiest way to pick up women. I'm trying to have a mix between quantity and quality over my days.

Would really, really appreciate some general tips and stuff! I can return the favor should anyone want to visit Kuala Lumpur or Chicago.

These are chicas that ask for higher price on SA. Can anyone identify any of them and know where to meet them under 300 K?

These are not what I am looking for but I am curios about where else they can be found.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2431164]These are chicas that ask for higher price on SA. Can anyone identify any of them and know where to meet them under 300 K?

These are not what I am looking for but I am curios about where else they can be found.[/QUOTE]Red bikini and black top / crimson skirt are maybe (just maybe) worth 300 k /350 k. The others? No way, man. Maybe the ginger one? Although all of those tattoos (sigh).

[QUOTE=Fassima;2430949]The rate at the airport of 2600 is it for American dollar or Canadian? It seems really low for American dollar.[/QUOTE]That would be for US Dollars. And yes, the rate at the airport exchange is really bad.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2430946]There you go using that word again. "Respect. ".

I don't think any of the girls in Medellin respect me. I don't go there to get respect. I'm not paying anyone for respect. If I want respect, I'll go sit down in my boss's office and say "we need to talk."..........[/QUOTE]That's it right there. That's where we differ. I demand respect. I do not deal with anyone who does not show me respect. Girl (working or not), family member, friend, boss, fellow employee. Once I see you do not respect me I have nothing to do with you. I pay women for sex, if a holier than thou knows this and does not respect me because of it we can agree to avoid each other.
I may have sessioned many girls who potentially would disrespect me, perhaps hundreds or more but I never know for sure unless they do something to prove it. When they do I draw the line.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2431164]These are chicas that ask for higher price on SA. Can anyone identify any of them and know where to meet them under 300 K?

These are not what I am looking for but I am curios about where else they can be found.[/QUOTE]Is that price for one pop or two?

The Colombian Government is now requiring all foreigners to submit information to Immigration prior to arriving in Colombia. The online form is available at migracioncolombia in English and must be submitted prior to arrival in the Country. Just a heads up for those with trips planned here in the near future.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2431164]These are chicas that ask for higher price on SA. Can anyone identify any of them and know where to meet them under 300 K?

These are not what I am looking for but I am curios about where else they can be found.[/QUOTE]Newbie here, what's SA?

[QUOTE=Blakman;2430819] . And that's my first week report.[/QUOTE]I just want to take time out to say thank you for your report. I was thinking about going to Medellin sometime this month and your report was a good motivation. Last time we played the tourist area and even though the area was safe I didn't feel completely comfortable with a lot of the asking prices. As a matter fact I didn't take any SW in the area. My friends on the other hand did and their experiences ranged from 2 to 7. I'm considering the area you were in or central. Surf I'm coming your way man.

I think I'll hit some spots next week. Ain't been mongering in months, but reading these reports I think it won't be long until we are talking about the good old days here in Meddy. Might as well enjoy it while it lasts.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2431181]I demand respect. I do not deal with anyone who does not show me respect. ... I may have sessioned many girls who potentially would disrespect me, ...[/QUOTE]There is a middle ground between respect and disrespect. I think at least 90% of the working ladies do not respect the men they are with, but that same number also do not disrespect them.

As an example, I meet people when I am in restaurants around Parque Lleras. Very few of them I disrespect, but I don't respect the others. I just don't have a feeling either way. A causal meeting is enough time to earn disrespect, but usually not enough time to earn respect.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2431221]I just want to take time out to say thank you for your report. I was thinking about going to Medellin sometime this month and your report was a good motivation. Last time we played the tourist area and even though the area was safe I didn't feel completely comfortable with a lot of the asking prices. As a matter fact I didn't take any SW in the area. My friends on the other hand did and their experiences ranged from 2 to 7. I'm considering the area you were in or central. Surf I'm coming your way man.[/QUOTE]Let me let it be known if it isn't already. Parque Lleras is like being in the old Sosua. Totally crazy with beautiful girls, I was stunned and really experienced the hype of Colombia. The asking price ranged from 350000 to 100000 depending on time or can they do a round and come back. Didn't go in Gusto but there's a smaller club Lleras park. The quality is hot in there. Free on Thursday. The park area lit with all types. Went to an after party afterwards call faisin something like that. Hood club, silicon galore, rip off at the bar, but some people like it. Wasn't for me. So now I am looking to score twice a day. One at the casa 81 a 34 -15. And night time at parque Lleras. Colombia is worth it, just research a snatch up a nice non stop flight and your here. I was in Thailand last year which was also great. That's all 4 now. Its Friday.

Once I followed through with a girl that obviously lied. I wasn't happy with the encounter, attitude problems etc etc. Now if I feel an obvious lie, I just move on.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2430789]At 5:45 she told him she was leaving the house.

At 6:20 she told him she just got into a taxi.

At 6:50 she sent her location and she was actually still at home. This was 1 hour 5 minutes after she told him she left the house, she is still in the mf.

At 7:10 she was in the taxi for real this time and 10 minutes (really 30) from his place.

I figure if at 5:45 she had said I am running a bit behind and will arrive at x time instead of lying that she had left the house already, then all may had been okay. But when she told him she was in the taxi and was really still home even 30 minutes after that, well fuck her. I found somebody else already, even if that someone else was just Palmela and her 5 sisters.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2431232]There is a middle ground between respect and disrespect. I think at least 90% of the working ladies do not respect the men they are with, but that same number also do not disrespect them.

As an example, I meet people when I am in restaurants around Parque Lleras. Very few of them I disrespect, but I don't respect the others. I just don't have a feeling either way. A causal meeting is enough time to earn disrespect, but usually not enough time to earn respect.[/QUOTE]Well said. Not reasonable to expect someone to respect you when they don't even know you. But I do expect to not be blatantly disrespected, and lied to, about where she is at the moment. If she says she is 10 min away and she hasn't even left the house. That qualifies for me to cancel, because now I'm thinking she's going to pull some more BS throughout the session. I rather her just say I'm running late and will be there at X time, is that okay with you and I'd be a lot more flexible.

At this point, I have had 1/2 be on time and 1/2 be slightly late (within 30 minutes) with communication along the way. Pretty solid. Only one continually lied (3 times) about where she was and after 45 minutes told her to forget it and I went out, she hadn't even left yet. Then I saw her at Lleras and she was too embarrassed to say Hi. I know she felt bad but I told her via text earlier, listen if you just told me what was going on, I could have re-arranged and been more flexible, but you lied three times and that is not okay, now I have a bad feeling about meeting you. She did understand and apologized profusely. Who knows if that will change anything in the future.

Honestly, I also felt bad cause I know she needed the money but it is what it is. I don't like being lied to like that, the fault was not my own. There is a balance to be found here in knowing what is acceptable and what is not, and also not being a dick about it.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2431164]These are chicas that ask for higher price on SA. Can anyone identify any of them and know where to meet them under 300 K?

These are not what I am looking for but I am curios about where else they can be found.[/QUOTE]A chica friend of mine sent me pictures of the one in the red bikini. She said she was available for 200 K plus taxi, but our timing was never good for me to meet her. My chica friend is named Marii, just in case others may know her.

[QUOTE=Baudelairemod;2431173]Red bikini and black top / crimson skirt are maybe (just maybe) worth 300 k /350 k. The others? No way, man. Maybe the ginger one? Although all of those tattoos (sigh).[/QUOTE]I think how they look has little to do with price. Look at this way. It's more like they belong to a union and the union determines the price. The experiment is to see if they belong to another union that sets a lower price

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2431197]Is that price for one pop or two?[/QUOTE]One.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2431247]A chica friend of mine sent me pictures of the one in the red bikini. She said she was available for 200 K plus taxi.[/QUOTE]That's good to know.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2431249]I think how they look has little to do with price. It's more like they belong to a union and the union determines the price. [/QUOTE]They definitely talk in whatsapp groups together. I had a chica last night show me some texts from a group she is in where they share what we are paying. She was showing me a text from a guy who was looking for her to join him to an event for 250 k, no sex 2 hours, and then another guy who was looking for 12 chicas for 450 k each for 3 hours for a party I assume. So there is all sorts of crazy shit going on here and they're all in the loop.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2431164]These are chicas that ask for higher price on SA. Can anyone identify any of them and know where to meet them under 300 K?

These are not what I am looking for but I am curios about where else they can be found.[/QUOTE]What is the higher price? If the one in the red-top is 18, then she is worth 300-400 k on fb, probably 700+ in gusto.

I uploaded another fb girl who is asking for 300-400 k, depending on the service you demand. I'm debating whether to take her for a spin nor not. It's not about the money, 100 k is only 14 dollars, you can't even get a decent cocktail with 14 bucks. But I don't want to fuck up the pricing system on fb.

Do you know the tax consequences for someone who has earned and investment income?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2431040]Another option is to obtain an "investors visa in Real Estate " which will give you residency in the Country as long as you maintain the investment which can be an apartment, however you have to invest at least $ 175,000 USD. This can be a great option for someone looking to retire here who has the bucks and in essence you end up with the equivalent of a "green card".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheNakedIndian;2431047]Hey all,

I figured I'd introduce myself and then go back to lurking. Heading to Medellin in November, started pipelining on tinder and facebook and the talent is amazing. I'm 32, ex military, and still in fairly good shape so tinder has been good but I'm wondering if its necessary. I'll be staying Hotel M because I was informed its where my happy ass should go if I can't manage Spanish too well. My last few days I'll be staying at Energy Living. I'm waiting for the $25.00 BTC to settle into coinbase and get behind the pay wall here but tips would be great!

I was confused on what chica list meant and 'Lau Gomez'. Let me know if anyone is going to be in Medellin late Nov. To early December![/QUOTE]Lau Gomez is a name. Search on Facebook, she is like a go between. She probaly takes a cut. Reply to her that you want to meet chicks for under 300 k. She will send you pics and you can tell her who you like. Now I only used her once, but the other day she said 350 k and ain't no chick in Medellin with that to me. I got dime pieces that only take 200 k plus taxi.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2431181]That's it right there. That's where we differ. I demand respect. I do not deal with anyone who does not show me respect. Girl (working or not), family member, friend, boss, fellow employee. Once I see you do not respect me I have nothing to do with you. I pay women for sex, if a holier than thou knows this and does not respect me because of it we can agree to avoid each other.
I may have sessioned many girls who potentially would disrespect me, perhaps hundreds or more but I never know for sure unless they do something to prove it. When they do I draw the line.[/QUOTE]I'm assuming you never served in the military, or if you did it was only as an officer. Otherwise, this point wouldn't need to be discussed. Every enlisted man knows the difference between displaying respect and having respect. You're required to display respect to those of superior rank, but that rarely has any connection to respect. It's just a rule to follow if you want to continue to be paid.

I'm with you on a girl treating me with disrespect. She spits on me, she's gone. She tells me an obvious lie, with bad intentions, she's gone. She begs me for money and won't stop when I tell her "no", she's gone. However, just because she follows some basic rules doesn't mean she has any respect for you. I keep harping on this because not knowing the difference between having respect and showing respect can get you in trouble.

Tell me. When you have one of these girls who respect you over, do you put your valuables away, or do you just leave money, credit cards, etc, out in plain sight? Do you leave them unattended with your drink? If they tell you about a family emergency do you give them money? Someone who respects you would never steal from you, drug you or lie to you about something serious.

Or, like one former engineer I served under could tell you, people who respect you would never urinate in your beer after you crashed their party.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2431265]What is the higher price? If the one in the red-top is 18, then she is worth 300-400 k on fb, probably 700+ in gusto.

I uploaded another fb girl who is asking for 300-400 k, depending on the service you demand. I'm debating whether to take her for a spin nor not. It's not about the money, 100 k is only 14 dollars, you can't even get a decent cocktail with 14 bucks. But I don't want to fuck up the pricing system on fb.[/QUOTE]100 k is more like $30 and I just saw her two nights ago. She was more than happy to come for 200 k + taxi for 2 pops and the service was intense. I just reported on her 2 days ago.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2431009]I believe she can be had for 200 k. She's available thru a girl that has a deep lineup, and that is the common asking price. Maybe 250 k. Not sure if she would be asking more on SA, though. PM me if you want the number for the plug. I might have her number in my phone, but I can't remember her name, and I deleted the old conversation with the madame.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the offer. I was able to get in touch with her. Date set. Check PM though when you can. Thanks.

Hello fellow mongers!

I have been reading the forum for a couple of years on and off and I just returned from my first trip to Medellin! I wanted to share my first experience with everyone and help those who have not been before have the best possible time there. First I want to say that I am married, so I don't monger at home. I have to travel for work a lot so that is when I play. I came to Medellin to consult one of the volunteer Organizations that have volunteers teach English, clean parks and many other jobs. I won't go into details about what I did for them because that is not what this forum is for. I want to also note that I do not speak much Spanish.

When I arrived at the airport I looked for a taxi. When I was looking for a taxi I was looking for a male driver between 20-30 years old. In my past experience it is these guys who know the city well and who would be able to help me find the best ways to monger in the city. After about five minutes of looking I found a young man who's name was Marcos. I gave him my address that I would be staying in Pablado. On the way to the Airbnb I found that he spoke decent English so I asked him if he new of any brothels he could take me to. He new many so I told him that my price per day would be around 200 K Cops. Marcos said he can take me to places he frequents which would cost me around 90 k but the women are usually not the type foreigners go for. He said if I was willing to pay 150 k per session he would take me to a high end place called Fantasia Energy (also shortened to Energy). Once I settled in my apartment Marcos and I went to energy and once we arrived I offered to get him a girl. I wanted to make friends with him so that I had someone who had intimate knowledge of the city. He said he could not because he had to work, but he gave me his number so I could call him when I was done. He said the area was relatively safe, but there are some allies where groups of men hang out and decide to trouble gringos on a whim. I'm sure it was just a scare tactic, but I did not know my way back anyways and I did plan on calling him for a ride anyways.

Upon entering energy the mamasan sat me down and communicated in a little English and brought me the line up one by one. All the girls here where 8 and above. I know looks are subjective so if you go there it will be up to you to decide, but I feel like I have pretty high standards. I settled on Carolina for my first visit. She took me in the back and told me to lay down for a massage, but I refused and asked her to get undressed so that I could massage her (I used google translate). She looked a little shocked but put in the translator that I am the client and I can get what I want. I am sex coach here in the United States as a side job so I use Tantra and yoni massage techniques multiple times a week on clients as well as teach husbands how to do it on their wives. I massaged Carolina for about thirty minutes and she orgasmed twice during the yoni massage. I then pulled her off the massage bed and bent her over and put on a condom (they have condoms there but I bring my own). We had sex for around thirty minutes when a knock at the door came and I guess the lady was saying my time was up. Carolina replies and she asked for my phone and translated that I need to finish quickly. I lasted about another five minutes and I was done. We talked another five minutes over translate and I got her number. I told her that if I am going to pay 150 K Cop I would prefer her to get all of it. I came back to energy everyday for my first week because it was very clean and the girls were attractive and I did this method with each girl. I got 4 numbers in total.

The next week Marcos took me to a place he likes to go (I believe it was club de Amigas). This area looked much more shady than energy. The price at this place was 90 k Cop for 45 minutes. They did not offer any longer. The girls here ranged from 4-7. They had 7 girls working each day I went. I tried the normal routine I did at energy, but out of the 7 days I went only 3 girls agreed to let me massage them, but all three gave me their numbers. Something I should mention is when I go to places like this I don't just grab the most attractive girl. When the girls are introduced to me I look for their smile when they are presented. The way they smile at you is a very good hint on how well they are going to service you. The only girls that smiled at me were the three I got numbers from.

During this week I also hit the city with Marcos and told him to take me to bars and restaurants he eats at. I met many of his friends who spoke worse English than he, but Marcos was a very willing translator. He often pointed out the working girls in the bars we hung out in and told me the prices they normally charged if I fancied one. At his bars the girls often asked 50 K for 30 minutes or 70 K for an hour. The times I did take girls I offered 100 k for the whole night and I usually got a yes if it was after 10 pm (not always but a good 70%. I treated these girls the same as the massage girls from energy and got their numbers in the morning after we got breakfast together in Pablado.

My second and last month there I was getting calls about four times a week from the various girls I hired the previous month. I often got these calls around 10 Pm or 11. When I inquired why they called when they arrived it was because things were slow that day and they needed guaranteed money (they also threw in that I treated them well and had fun with me).

The reason I am sharing my experience is because some of these girls go to touristy areas and frequent clubs and they have told me that they usually ask for 300 k minimum in those places for gringos. That price shocked me, but when I asked why they charged me so little the girls who met while I was out with Marcos said because I met her in a place where Colombians meet and I new the going price. The girls at energy that told me they charged that much said I met them at energy and the price for an hour there was much less and they at least made all 150 k if I met with them after hours on the slow day.

Going to a place where prostitution is legal and abundant is great, but don't be afraid to make friends with locals who know the scene. As I stated in the beginning my limit for pay to play was 200 k. The only times I came close to that was on days where I went to 90 k massage parlors and took a girl back for a night after hanging out with Marcos at 100 k. Sure there will be guys who want to be big ballers and will jack the price up for everyone else in the tourist spots, but don't be that idiot. If you went to buy a brand new car from two dealers next to each other. Would you spend more money on the same brand new car if it was cheaper at the location next door. Me personally I say fuck no. Some people out there do pay more though. Remember that women want sex too. If a girl gives us a good time for the right price we will use them again. Well if we as mongers give a girl a good time for the right payment they will want to see us too. I hope this helps anyone planning on heading to Medellin. Have fun and I can't wait to head back and do it again next year.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2431265]What is the higher price? If the one in the red-top is 18, then she is worth 300-400 k on fb, probably 700+ in gusto.
[/QUOTE]She claims to be 18. 500 K is a common price for pro. Non-pro who needs money will ask for much more regardless look

[QUOTE=Junior11;2431268]Do you know the tax consequences for someone who has earned and investment income?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Your question is very vague, what I can tell you though is that if your in Colombia more than six months a year you are considered a tax resident and must file a tax return in Colombia. If you have earned and interest income derived in Colombia, you technically would need to be filing taxes here whether your considered tax resident or not, besides filing if your a USA Citizen, along with filing what's called an F-Bar if you have any money physically in the Country. I hope this helps.

Very important information! Thank you. I'm going in two weeks so this was a major key. If your feeling out the form, it ask you your origin country. United States. America. North America are not on the list. For those that don't know it's buried in the E section titled "Estados United ".

Also while on the subject. Uber is no longer in Colombia and wasn't operating while I was there 2 weeks ago. All the chicas are using an app called En Taxi. Very similar to Uber except you get to name your own price. It pings all the taxi drivers where you are going and how much you are offering. You will then get a list of official taxi drivers that accept that drive and price. It will show all their info, distance, driver photo and car info. Once they accept you, you then get to pick which driver you want from the list. You'll see their car on the map moving just like Uber. It's pretty cool and maybe an upgrade overall.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2431209]The Colombian Government is now requiring all foreigners to submit information to Immigration prior to arriving in Colombia. The online form is available at migracioncolombia in English and must be submitted prior to arrival in the Country. Just a heads up for those with trips planned here in the near future.[/QUOTE]

Very important information! Thank you. I'm going in two weeks so this was a major key. If your feeling out the form, it ask you your origin country. United States. America. North America are not on the list. For those that don't know it's buried in the E section titled "Estados United ".

Also while on the subject. Uber is no longer in Colombia and wasn't operating while I was there 2 weeks ago. All the chicas are using an app called En Taxi. Very similar to Uber except you get to name your own price. It pings all the taxi drivers where you are going and how much you are offering. You will then get a list of official taxi drivers that accept that drive and price. It will show all their info, distance, driver photo and car info. Once they accept you, you then get to pick which driver you want from the list. You'll see their car on the map moving just like Uber. It's pretty cool and maybe an upgrade overall.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2431209]The Colombian Government is now requiring all foreigners to submit information to Immigration prior to arriving in Colombia. The online form is available at migracioncolombia in English and must be submitted prior to arrival in the Country. Just a heads up for those with trips planned here in the near future.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2431259]They definitely talk in whatsapp groups together. I had a chica last night show me some texts from a group she is in...So there is all sorts of crazy shit going on here and they're all in the loop.[/QUOTE]100% accurate! How do I know? Because I saw the group messages. Why? Because my mug shot made the list! Haha as expected it was my Facebook picture. One chica asked the group does anyone know him? And I could see the 5 other replies in the screen shot that said yes! No! Yes I talk to him daily! Yes I was was with him once. That's all I could see in the screen shot. The girl that sent me the screenshot didn't blur out the numbers. She didn't have them all saved so I could see the phone numbers for them.

At the top I could see there were 300+ members in the group and it was titled Parque Llaress. So these hookers have it by neighborhood I presume. I immediately looked up the numbers in my phone an got a hit on one. She was a throw away I never really conversated with nor saw. The other that said she was with me was a girl I met in Gustos but turned down because she asked 600 k. Why she lied not sure. But the girl told me that it's not just Facebook or Whatsapp profiles the share in groups. The also sneak photos of guys while in the taxi together and even while you are together at your house making them a drink or changing the channel. From what she explained they normally ask how much he paid, tipped, hygiene, and to see if you have any issues. It's their version of this website basically. 350+ working girls in a Llaress group. That's a large portion of the working girls in that park sharing info.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2431243]At this point, I have had 1/2 be on time and 1/2 be slightly late (within 30 minutes) with communication along the way. Pretty solid. Only one continually lied (3 times) about where she was and after 45 minutes told her to forget it and I went out, she hadn't even left yet. Then I saw her at Lleras and she was too embarrassed to say Hi. I know she felt bad but I told her via text earlier, listen if you just told me what was going on, I could have re-arranged and been more flexible, but you lied three times and that is not okay, now I have a bad feeling about meeting you. She did understand and apologized profusely. Who knows if that will change anything in the future.

Honestly, I also felt bad cause I know she needed the money but it is what it is. I don't like being lied to like that, the fault was not my own. There is a balance to be found here in knowing what is acceptable and what is not, and also not being a dick about it.[/QUOTE]These women need to be disciplined, meaning benched, and missing a pay day because it works.

This morning I call one of my regulars at 9 AM who I had to bench a few months ago asking her if she can meet at 11 AM in El Centro at my favorite Love Hotel. The answer is yes, however at 10:35 AM I get a call from her, where are you, I'm here at the Hotel. My answer was I'm in route on the METRO and will be there shortly at 11 AM.

This is a perfect example of the way it should be, getting calls that they are early, versus the reverse of what everyone is bitching about.

Wow what a great first report. I liked the way you operate with the massage you give the girls. I do that also, but I don't have your skills. I think I might try to get some sort of help in learning to really be good at it. One way to get GFE is to get the girls relaxed with you. Nothing beats that than a good massage. I love to have them on their stomach, and message their legs and get that great view.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2431280]100 k is more like $30 and I just saw her two nights ago. She was more than happy to come for 200 k + taxi for 2 pops and the service was intense. I just reported on her 2 days ago.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you are right, 100 k is 30 bucks, it is still a steal. I guess I did it right to not buy her 300 K bullshit. Thanks for the info. My guess is that I paid 300 k once for one of her friend, who is hotter and just my type; fucking news travel fast among girls, now everyone in her circle is asking for 300 K. To be fair though, I always ask for services beyond the basic DFK, BBBJ and MSOG.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2431326]Wow what a great first report. I liked the way you operate with the massage you give the girls. I do that also, but I don't have your skills. I think I might try to get some sort of help in learning to really be good at it. One way to get GFE is to get the girls relaxed with you. Nothing beats that than a good massage. I love to have them on their stomach, and message their legs and get that great view.[/QUOTE]Yes sir!

I did not get a GFE until after the second time with the girls. I assumed it was a comfort level thing. Usually on the third meet up on there was lots of making. They also did BBJ since they did not want to interrupt the flow of the session. I also was able to do anal with some of them for no extra charge. I'm not sure if it was just the level of trust we built (pretty sure it wasn't) or if that was just something they normally do if you ask. Only about 4 of the girls let me progress to anal. I prefer just having fun during sex so I did not try and ask for fetish stuff. As for gaining my skills I refer my male clients to Eros tantra and yoni massage in their search engine. They give good close up and narrated instructions as to what each method is used for and what it does to the female body. Just remember that when you perform the massage you instruct your female partner to breathe deep through here nose into the diaphragm and out through the mouth slowly. Physically it makes sure the maximum amount of oxygen is in the blood which in turn makes the areas you are touching more sensitive (especially the labias, nipples and clit). Mentally it makes their body ready to receive pleasure so they don't get ticklish. Lastly while doing the yoni massage make sure you slide your fingers along the roof of her vagina slowly until you reach the pocket in the back (you should feel the roof of her vagina connect to her Cervix. That area is the A spot hook your fingers slightly and drag it lightly until you hit the spongy G spot (it's usually about two inches forward sometimes 3). The A spot is also where the clit ends internally. Just keep massaging between both points slowly and gently and increase pressure as requested. There is much more to! But just start with that and let me know how it works out for you.

What?! I can't believe my eyes. This guy decides to learn Spanish?! What a change! If you find "hot college girl who teaches Spanish and working at the same time", sign me up please!

[QUOTE=SJobs;2429080]Does anyone has any suggestions on the quickest way to learn Spanish? I just want to learn enough to be able to talk to girls without constantly using google translate. I live in the US, but I come to Medellin often, is it possible to find a hot college girl who teaches Spanish and working at the same time?[/QUOTE]

Dude, how do you find so many smoking hot 18 year olds 🙂? I guess guys hold those contacts very well hidden, e. G. Close to their hearts (or dicks) 😃.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2430097]My definition of Heaven: two 18-year-old smoking hot FB girls from 2 pm until 11:30 pm, Gusto from 12:00 am until 4 am (Thursday. Saturday), another threesome with two 18-year-old FB from 4 - 10 am. What's above heaven? A legit message from a super hot Paisa between 11 am and 2 pm.
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Thanks, note taken.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2423602]If I want her there by 3, I'm telling her 2.

Tell her ahead of time that you need her to be on time. Give her enough time to deal with her home situation. Ask if she's certain she can be on time. "A las 3 o es 4 mejor para ti?" Let her know to keep you updated if any problems come up. Ask where she's coming from. Remind her about the traffic. Give her the opportunity to put it off until tomorrow.

Clearly she's someone you want to fuck, otherwise you wouldn't be talking with her. Find a way to make it happen.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SJobs;2431265]I uploaded another fb girl who is asking for 300-400 k, depending on the service you demand.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2431280]100 k is more like $30 and I just saw her two nights ago. She was more than happy to come for 200 k + taxi for 2 pops and the service was intense. I just reported on her 2 days ago.[/QUOTE]AdventureSeekr, are you sure you have seen the same girl? She quoted me the same price range as she quoted SJobs.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2431366]Dude, how do you find so many smoking hot 18 year olds 🙂? I guess guys hold those contacts very well hidden, e. G. Close to their hearts (or dicks) 😃.[/QUOTE]I had some lurkers asking the same question over pm. I don't reply to my pm unless it is from someone who has contributed to the forum frequently. My experience is just the opposite, almost all the girls I reached out to are between 18-21. The biggest issue I have is to screen out the girls who are under 18. You generally just need to find one popular 18-19 year old fb girl and just explore her friend list. The best threesomes with 18 year olds are very rare find. I have spent almost 3 months in Medellin in the last 6 months, on average I had about 3 girls per day and 2-3 threesome per week; out of the hundreds of girls I tried, I only found two threesomes that blew my mind, needless to say, I now see them once or twice per week, and there is no way I will share their info anywhere. If you spend the time RTFF, you will find all the tools you need to mine gold, no one should expect others to do the mining for them. It takes hard work and you have to go through multiple failures, but once you strike gold, the reward is immense.

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2431312]Very important information! Thank you. I'm going in two weeks so this was a major key. If your feeling out the form, it ask you your origin country. United States. America. North America are not on the list. For those that don't know it's buried in the E section titled "Estados United ".

Also while on the subject. Uber is no longer in Colombia and wasn't operating while I was there 2 weeks ago. All the chicas are using an app called En Taxi. Very similar to Uber except you get to name your own price. It pings all the taxi drivers where you are going and how much you are offering. You will then get a list of official taxi drivers that accept that drive and price. It will show all their info, distance, driver photo and car info. Once they accept you, you then get to pick which driver you want from the list. You'll see their car on the map moving just like Uber. It's pretty cool and maybe an upgrade overall.[/QUOTE]Uber still works. I've been using it for the past two weeks. I just used it an hour ago. Also the other app is called InDriver.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2431369]AdventureSeekr, are you sure you have seen the same girl? She quoted me the same price range as she quoted SJobs.[/QUOTE]100%, check my report. You may be asking for more time as I know SJobs likes to have them party for 6 hours LOL She only stayed with me for about 1. 5 hours. You will see I used her name in my report and I am sure it matches her FB you are talking to her on.

Pretty sure I have the girl in red bikini on my FB. Girls ask more on SA than FB in my experience. Though, I have never had a quote from the same exact girl on both platforms. BTW, how much do you think the price depends on customer?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2431164]These are chicas that ask for higher price on SA. Can anyone identify any of them and know where to meet them under 300 K?

These are not what I am looking for but I am curios about where else they can be found.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SJobs;2431341]Yeah, you are right, 100 k is 30 bucks, it is still a steal. I guess I did it right to not buy her 300 K bullshit. Thanks for the info. My guess is that I paid 300 k once for one of her friend, who is hotter and just my type; fucking news travel fast among girls, now everyone in her circle is asking for 300 K. To be fair though, I always ask for services beyond the basic DFK, BBBJ and MSOG.[/QUOTE]Totally makes sense. I know you party hard and want them for a long time so of course they are going to ask for more. But just wanted to let you know that standard GFE services and 2 pops is available for 200 k with her.

I am realizing 90% of this has to do with timing. If they just had a guy pay 350 k, they are not going to take 200 k the next day. If they haven't had a date in 4 days, they will take 200 k. So when you message them and how badly they need cash is going to determine the rate, by A LOT.

And yes, they do all talk and know who is who. These girls are smart, make no mistake.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2431369]AdventureSeekr, are you sure you have seen the same girl? She quoted me the same price range as she quoted SJobs.[/QUOTE]Why are you worrying about what you are quoted? What did you negotiate? I could be quoted $50,000 for a new Cadillac at the stealership, but I guarantee you that I am going home with it having paid less.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2431385]Why are you worrying about what you are quoted? What did you negotiate? I could be quoted $50,000 for a new Cadillac at the stealership, but I guarantee you that I am going home with it having paid less.[/QUOTE]I didn't want her badly enough. She does look like a popular girl. So, I didn't think it would be easy to talk her down, but now with Adventurer's confirmation and positive review, I will surely try.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2431365]What?! I can't believe my eyes. This guy decides to learn Spanish?! What a change! If you find "hot college girl who teaches Spanish and working at the same time", sign me up please![/QUOTE]Yeah, man, I hopelessly fell in love with the city. Its weather puts the California weather to shame, it's people are the nicest I have ever seen anywhere (I have been to more than 40 countries), it's nightlife is fantastic, the best drugs are easily accessible. When it rains in the afternoon, I feel like I'm living in the magical dream of Gabriel Marquez's "One Hundred Years of Solitude."

In terms of music, everyone in Medellin has superb musical taste, and they all dance well. My salsa skill has improved significantly. In terms of food, Carmen and OCI are very satisfying; I even found an excellent omakase sushi place.

I'm life style in Medellin evolved along with my love fair with the city. The need for language arises when I want to take my hottest Fb or Gusto girl to try out the tasting menu at Carmen or get our mind blown away by the most innovative sushi chief in the city. Ordering and eating food from Rappi with FB girls in my apartment is my least favorite part of the entire encounter. My next concern is that when they find out how much a meal costs at Carmen, they might up their price for the night, well, I will cross the bridge when I get there.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2431209]The Colombian Government is now requiring all foreigners to submit information to Immigration prior to arriving in Colombia. The online form is available at migracioncolombia in English and must be submitted prior to arrival in the Country. Just a heads up for those with trips planned here in the near future.[/QUOTE]I have searched that site and I can't find anything about new entry requirements nor any form to fill out before arriving. Can you provide a link to the specific area?

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2428315]Especially in this hobby where there is such a cross over of many different people from different areas, it's high risk. [/QUOTE]I have the same concern. I have been seeing 2 non-pro girls I know, but they don't let me CIM and I want to try some hot pros. I guess I will risk it.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2428482] I'm not sure if I would want to be stuck here and getting sick as a foreigner versus being in the USA, but who knows what it might be like in the USA as well.[/QUOTE]I would prefer to not get it, but if I do, to be back to states. As it stands now, I don't return until April. I am both glad and sad about it 🙂.

It is their version of this website, minus much of the bullshit. Yes, they talk to each other. They find each other on facebook and of course if they are casa girls they shoot the shit all day long.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2431259]They definitely talk in whatsapp groups together. I had a chica last night show me some texts from a group she is in where they share what we are paying. She was showing me a text from a guy who was looking for her to join him to an event for 250 k, no sex 2 hours, and then another guy who was looking for 12 chicas for 450 k each for 3 hours for a party I assume. So there is all sorts of crazy shit going on here and they're all in the loop.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2431209]The Colombian Government is now requiring all foreigners to submit information to Immigration prior to arriving in Colombia. The online form is available at migracioncolombia in English and must be submitted prior to arrival in the Country. Just a heads up for those with trips planned here in the near future.[/QUOTE]This is very import information. Thank you!

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2431398]I have searched that site and I can't find anything about new entry requirements nor any form to fill out before arriving. Can you provide a link to the specific area?[/QUOTE]My flight is on Monday morning, and I couldn't find any specific form there either.

I think I'm simply going to ask the desk agent at the terminal about it while waiting.

Hello everyone,

I've been reading the forums for ages and the information shared here is fantastic. I'm working on getting a full subscription to the site, but had a quick question. I'm planning on going to Medellin in June and have been reading up on how to set a FB up through here. I'm having a hard time searching for Medellin girls as the search when using generic names shows first girls from where I'm currently located, Mexico City, rather than from Medellin, even though my FB profile has Medellin set as its hometown. Any clues or ideas on how to bypass this?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2431164]These are chicas that ask for higher price on SA. Can anyone identify any of them and know where to meet them under 300 K?

These are not what I am looking for but I am curios about where else they can be found.[/QUOTE]I've had the white top and red bikini top. I know their identities. Red top is a Bello girl and turned 18 about 6 months ago. So yeah you can get that for below 300 k probably if you can figure it out. Not a repeat for me, looks better in photos. Girl in the white top - if anyone is getting that below 300 k, good for them. She is I think strata 5. She is the hottest one of that group, great in bed and cool chick for being 19. Last time I talked to her she wasn't hoeing but hooked me up with a friend who was legit hot as well. But yeah all was over 300 k.

I have been in Medellin from Friday morning to Sunday evening. I was sleeping in Laureles.

The scene in El centro is almost permanent, I have been seeing workers until very late at night. The girls are cool, nice attitude, well, most of them. Those in Raudale (to differentiate them from plaza botero) were more often better looking to me, and I have had a very few great encounters there.

The service in the casas like new life, was not really the super GFE type (in comparison to Bogota).

I visited La Isla and Fase Dos, took no service there but the girls were a few level higher in terms of look and the ratio "hot / number of girls" was high there.

I have not managed to meet many FB workers, just one, those facebook meeting do not seem to be my thing. I tried to meet with Ieraldin but she warned me about her period so in the end I passed. .

Places I liked were basically the Conejitas bar (and the ones near) where I encountered two great experiences there, service was just rocking the sky with the ones I had the chance to meet there.

Well, Medellin was cool but I really preferred my time in Bogota.

[QUOTE=BigDegenerate;2431150]Hey everyone,

First timer in Medellin, does anyone have any general tips? I'm seeing a lot of SA and Facebook links. Do we just go find girls on there? I'm also curious about where I should stay, and the easiest way to pick up women. I'm trying to have a mix between quantity and quality over my days.

Would really, really appreciate some general tips and stuff! I can return the favor should anyone want to visit Kuala Lumpur or Chicago.[/QUOTE]Just Facebook. You should also check the Medellin List [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4002-Medellin-Map-and-List[/URL].

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2431398]I have searched that site and I can't find anything about new entry requirements nor any form to fill out before arriving. Can you provide a link to the specific area?[/QUOTE]In Google search type in Immigration Colombia and their website will come up, on the very first page near the top of the page look for the words Prevention CoronaVirus in a rectangular box and click on it and it will take you to a page with the information advisory and a link to fill out the online form. I just did what I am instructing you to do and the information is all there.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2431365]What?! I can't believe my eyes. This guy decides to learn Spanish?! What a change! If you find "hot college girl who teaches Spanish and working at the same time", sign me up please![/QUOTE]The reason he is doing this is so he can better arrange and manage all his threesomes and foursomes as he was having to waste so much time having to translate what he wanted the girls to do and finally came to the conclusion that things would be a lot better with Spanish speaking skills versus the translator.

I've been insanely active in the mornings, scouring Facebook for more contacts, sending messages, adding friends. Getting phone numbers. The ratios are stupid. Search through 5000 people, find 200 I like, request to add all 200, send messages to 40, get 20 friend acceptances get 5 message responses. Fuck me. It's rough and it takes tons of time. I am also being super picky and only adding the ones I really am interested in and would see.

I'm really enjoying my morning routine. Hit Facebook for 2 hours, make breakfast, which is always some combo of eggs, bacon, fruit, OJ, get dressed around 11 am - 12 pm and think about what I feel like doing. I've been lazy af here and haven't done a lot of the tourist stuff like Comuna 13 or Guatape but I've been low energy and my stomach has been off so hopefully next week I'll knock some of that out.

I confirm with Aleja for tonight, we've been talking for a week at least and the timing keeps getting messed up. Then she lost her cedula and says she has the denuncia, but I tell her she needs another form of ID that has the cedula number, like a school ID. She says she has it.

Cool, great. I get bandeja paisa delivered for lunch, its okay, not great. Don't recommend it from Palo Santo Poblado. Wouldn't order again from them.

I'm not much of a coffee drinker anymore but the coffee is just so good here. I decide to go walk around Lleras and Provenza for a couple hours. I get an iced coffee from Pergamino. God damn amazing. Stroll, bullshit around aimlessly, and remember my Monday date says she loves toys. I knew she was going to say the Hitachi and yup that's her favorite. I have a king wand mini vibrator that is well liked but she says she won't use a toy that someone else has used. Ok, fair enough. I pop into the sex store just past Provenza and they have a Hitachi wand for 105 k pesos. Plug it in to check it out, looks solid, grab it for $30. No sweat and it will make Monday even more fun.

I confirm with Aleja round 4 pm and she says she is on her way to get the denuncia. I say ok let me know that you are for sure coming or I am making other plans, it's late to go do that now. At 5 pm she texts and says, you can make other plans, I won't have the denuncia until tomorrow. I tell her how I am upset and disappointed because I kept tonight open for her and want to see her and she should have gone earlier if she knew she needed to get a new denuncia.

She asks for tomorrow and I text my tomorrow date to see if she can switch, but she can't. So I tell Aleja, sorry, I'm not available, we will have to do Tuesday.

I am busy Saturday. Sunday I'm going to take a break for Monday because I am insanely attracted to the Monday chica and we are going to spend a longer time together. I sent her a photo of the new Hitachi just for her and she went ballistic so looking forward to Monday a lot.

My Saturday date offers that she has a friend Daniela who is very beautiful who can come tonight (Friday) since she can't. She gives my number to Daniela who texts me immediately and sends her facebook. I actually requested to friend her a day or two ago. She says she knows where I am and she will come and do the same deal I offered her friend. As I said, they all talk!!

Now, I do want to see Daniela but I'm sitting there thinking, in reality, I would have offered this chica 50 k less because her friend is exactly my type and I offered the friend more because of that. Now I am kind of locked into this price with her and her friends. I thought about saying that for 5 minutes to Daniela but came to the conclusion that you know what, that's not going to go over well and she is cute, so screw it, just pay the same price and make them both happy. This way I will get a good review for tomorrow night with her friend, my initial contact. This is more important to me as I am really into her.

I confirm that the deal is 3 hours, 2 pops, oral natural completo (as always) for 300 k total. No more for taxi, just included in the 300 k.

Something I should mention, I don't know if all of this helps or not but in my mind I think it does. I always offer to order food, if they are here for 3 hours, they always accept. Plus I get hungry too between 8 p-11 p so yea, I want to eat. I have really nice rum, because I like good rum, coca cola, and beers on hand, and we can have a drink or too as well. I brought candles from home cause I can get awesome candles at Marshalls near my house and it just makes the place smell good, and sets a nice ambiance.

It's nerve racking to meet someone new, go to a new place, not know how they are going to treat you. Its the same for both of me and the girl. I do what I can to try to relieve that initial tension. I keep the place clean. I have extra toothbrushes and toothpaste here on the sink if they want it. Sanitary wipes in the bathroom. Whatever I can do to make the mood more relaxed. I brought massage oil with lavender that smells great and offer to give a massage, always goes over well and I've had a lot of massage experience, both giving and receiving with highly trained masseuses, always a good skill to have. I think all of this is just good etiquette with working girls and non working girls alike. I'm always freshly showered when they arrive etc. You get the picture.

Shower, get ready, Daniela arrives 30 minutes later than planned, but I kind of expected it since we made plans very last minute.

She shows up and we order food because we are both hungry. She is a little heavier than her photos and more square shaped. I like flacas with assets. Well, here we are. She looks way better in her photos, what can you do?

Rappi says we have about 45 minutes until it arrives, cool. Pour two rum and cokes and we go sit on the bed, sipping our drinks.

When they are finished, I take her top off and we make out a little. I'm laying down and she pulls my pants off and I'm erect so she gets to work. Wow, super soft mouth and warm. Great tongue action. Now she's showing the balls tons of love, ok nice. So far I've found three girls that give awesome blowjobs, love this! I still haven't found a legit deepthroater but Daniela is showing serious effort to try.

Some girls do this bullshit when you get close where they slow down the intensity and just keep their mouth right at the tip, nope not her, she's going all the way up and down as I'm getting closer. Huge finish and she decides to swallow. Wow, no shit, wasn't expecting that. She comments on how much it was. I'm laughing in my head because I know I'm taking the zinc and lecithin and hydrating a lot, plus I didn't have a cita the day before.

We chat for 20 minutes, food arrives. We ordered wings from Go Wings. Running a special, 18 wings, 2 sauces for 28 k I think. Plus papas and coca cola was 45 k delivered. Super good, really hit the spot. She's happy too. She comments on how the candles smell really nice and she likes them.

Lots of interesting convo on Medellin, the different areas to live. We talk about that because I'm considering living here 4 or so months out of the year. Lots of other small talk. I ask what the local men are like, she tells me here they are the worst, super macho, not loyal, and mean to their woman. Even married men pay to see other women, it is very common. Totally open book and I learn a bunch. She also is happy to help with my Spanish and surprised by how much of it I can speak and understand. I still think my Spanish is terrible but I guess its much better than most of the guys these girls see cause I get this from all of them.

She tells me she is going to go out for a friends birthday after and she asks if I like to party. I tell her not that much but when I live here, I will party more. She says when I live here, I can come party with her friends. Pretty nice to make that offer.

We head back to the bed and are kind of massaging each other, touching each other and she starts stroking me. When I get hard, she starts in on another blowjob, damn, she does this so well, and since I'm not fully attracted to her, I'm just thinking, fuck it, go for the second CIM. She's putting in serious work this time, way more intensity, damn, just so good and decide yea, definitely fuck sex tonight LOL I bust again in her mouth and it was a crazy intense orgasm, she just keeps going hard, swallows again and finally slows down, comes off and goes to the bathroom to clean up.

I'm dead, fuckin' dead. I couldn't move for like 5 minutes LOL She asks what I want to do now, and I say, I'm just going to go to bed, she says okay no problem. Finishes cleaning up and getting dressed. We check out the view from the balcony while she calls an Uber and its just a few minutes away. She says she had a great time and hopes I move here so we can hang out more. I tell her I will probably be back in April. I think she was only here a little over 2 hours instead of the 3 we agreed on, but that was my choice, so all good there. Light kisses goodbye and she's out the door.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2431436]In Google search type in Immigration Colombia and their website will come up, on the very first page near the top of the page look for the words Prevention CoronaVirus in a rectangular box and click on it and it will take you to a page with the information advisory and a link to fill out the online form. I just did what I am instructing you to do and the information is all there.[/QUOTE]It is the first reported case but I would bet my entire life savings on the fact that it is definitely not the first actual case here. I am sure it has been here for at least two weeks. It is what it is, but I am happy to be leaving in 10 days as this is when the "confirmed reported cases" will start to grow exponentially.

[QUOTE=PauliePocket;2431421]Hello everyone,

I've been reading the forums for ages and the information shared here is fantastic. I'm working on getting a full subscription to the site, but had a quick question. I'm planning on going to Medellin in June and have been reading up on how to set a FB up through here. I'm having a hard time searching for Medellin girls as the search when using generic names shows first girls from where I'm currently located, Mexico City, rather than from Medellin, even though my FB profile has Medellin set as its hometown. Any clues or ideas on how to bypass this?[/QUOTE]I don't think you read the forum because this is a topic discussed frequently. You will find profile links if you search for [URL]facebook.com[/URL] on this thread. That is one way you can start your collection.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2431457]I've been low energy and my stomach has been off so hopefully next week I'll knock some of that out.[/QUOTE]This is a good excuse you can use to hit up the pharmacy chica from the other report.

[QUOTE=TimeKeeper281;2431422]I've had the white top and red bikini top. I know their identities. Red top is a Bello girl and turned 18 about 6 months ago. So yeah you can get that for below 300 k probably if you can figure it out. Not a repeat for me, looks better in photos. Girl in the white top - if anyone is getting that below 300 k, good for them. She is I think strata 5. She is the hottest one of that group, great in bed and cool chick for being 19. Last time I talked to her she wasn't hoeing but hooked me up with a friend who was legit hot as well. But yeah all was over 300 k.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I think her photos are professionally done so it's no surprise that she looks better in photos.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2431471]Thanks for the info. I think her photos are professionally done so it's no surprise that she looks better in photos.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah the girl in the white top also speaks perfect English.

[QUOTE=TimeKeeper281;2431474]Oh yeah the girl in the white top also speaks perfect English.[/QUOTE]It is very clear she is in the business. I lost interest because she says too much on her profile but now I think I may have misjudged her. I think I am not the only one that appreciate your feedback.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2431277]I'm assuming you never served in the military, or if you did it was only as an officer. Otherwise, this point wouldn't need to be discussed. Every enlisted man knows the difference between displaying respect and having respect. You're required to display respect to those of superior rank, but that rarely has any connection to respect. It's just a rule to follow if you want to continue to be paid.

I'm with you on a girl treating me with disrespect. She spits on me, she's gone. She tells me an obvious lie, with bad intentions, she's gone. She begs me for money and won't stop when I tell her "no", she's gone. However, just because she follows some basic rules doesn't mean she has any respect for you. I keep harping on this because not knowing the difference between having respect and showing respect can get you in trouble.

Tell me. When you have one of these girls who respect you over, do you put your valuables away, or do you just leave money, credit cards, etc, out in plain sight? Do you leave them unattended with your drink? If they tell you about a family emergency do you give them money? Someone who respects you would never steal from you, drug you or lie to you about something serious.

Or, like one former engineer I served under could tell you, people who respect you would never urinate in your beer after you crashed their party.[/QUOTE]No need to go off on unnecessary tangents here. I'll just quote a recent poster Adventureseekr: "Not reasonable to expect someone to respect you when they don't even know you. But I do expect to not be blatantly disrespected, and lied to, about where she is at the moment. If she says she is 10 min away and she hasn't even left the house. That qualifies for me to cancel, because now I'm thinking she's going to pull some more BS throughout the session. I rather her just say I'm running late and will be there at X time, is that okay with you and I'd be a lot more flexible. ".

[QUOTE=KetoAndKettle;2431411]My flight is on Monday morning, and I couldn't find any specific form there either.

I think I'm simply going to ask the desk agent at the terminal about it while waiting.[/QUOTE]If you take a look at post # 35082 by CarlAnthony he was able to locate the advisory and online form on the immigration website.

I suggest you not wait until arriving at the airport to inquire about this as you never know in that the Colombian Government may not accept getting this information prior to boarding the plane, it's not clear on their website whether this is an option.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2431532]No need to go off on unnecessary tangents here. I'll just quote a recent poster Adventureseekr: "Not reasonable to expect someone to respect you when they don't even know you. But I do expect to not be blatantly disrespected, and lied to, about where she is at the moment. If she says she is 10 min away and she hasn't even left the house. That qualifies for me to cancel, because now I'm thinking she's going to pull some more BS throughout the session. I rather her just say I'm running late and will be there at X time, is that okay with you and I'd be a lot more flexible. ".[/QUOTE]Slugfest in progress! Can't everybody just get along. I think Rodney King said that!

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2431462]It is the first reported case but I would bet my entire life savings on the fact that it is definitely not the first actual case here. I am sure it has been here for at least two weeks. It is what it is, but I am happy to be leaving in 10 days as this is when the "confirmed reported cases" will start to grow exponentially.[/QUOTE]I hope that the cases do not grow exponentially here as the Country would be ill equipped to deal with it. Additionally, the Colombian Government had an advisory that they would be screening all passengers arriving from the USA and other effected Countries like Italy and South Korea beginning on March 2 but I so no evidence of this when I arrived Thursday morning at Rio Negro. Although I was not arriving from the USA but from Argentina, I had a connecting flight on COPA from Panama City which had travelers from different Countries. Upon arriving zipped thru immigration and upon exiting at Customs they had a guy look at my Passport, right down the number, ask me where I was coming from, how much money I had, whether I had anything to declare, and sent me on my way.

There was nobody wearing masks, nobody with thermometers checking people, just one Customs guy and a security guard. And supposedly they were supposed to be screening people coming from the USA but maybe a flight from Panama City didn't qualify versus a flight directly from the USA. You would think they have manifests and they would know who's coming from where, especially on the COPA flights but I suspect it's pretty lax. I am not looking forward to any "reported" cases in Medellin, albeit I'm sure it's here.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2431436]In Google search type in Immigration Colombia and their website will come up, on the very first page near the top of the page look for the words Prevention CoronaVirus in a rectangular box and click on it and it will take you to a page with the information advisory and a link to fill out the online form. I just did what I am instructing you to do and the information is all there.[/QUOTE]Thanks Surfer500, got it. For some reason, I don't think that banner was on that page when I looked yesterday. Also, Google search on Immigration Colombia didn't show a link to the site, but migracioncolombia finds it.

[QUOTE=PauliePocket;2431421]Hello everyone,

I've been reading the forums for ages and the information shared here is fantastic. I'm working on getting a full subscription to the site, but had a quick question. I'm planning on going to Medellin in June and have been reading up on how to set a FB up through here. I'm having a hard time searching for Medellin girls as the search when using generic names shows first girls from where I'm currently located, Mexico City, rather than from Medellin, even though my FB profile has Medellin set as its hometown. Any clues or ideas on how to bypass this?[/QUOTE]Go to the General Info thread. Search for "Facebook" and look for posts I wrote. In one of them I give step by step directions on building a friend list.

You need to clear some messages, the system won't let me respond. Your inbox is full.

I came through immigration a copule of weeks ago. Most of the immigration agents were wearing masks. One of them was also wearing rubber gloves. A friend told me when she left Medellin last week the check in agent asked her if she had been to China during the past 14 days.

The latest information is coronavirus affects otherwise healthy people the way influenza affects them. People with pre-existing conditions such as asthma or other respiratory ailment, people aged 65 and older, and people who are generally frail are at higher risk of death from coronavirus and influenza. Coronavirus is thought to spread the way influenza spreads. The symptoms of coronavirus and influenza are somewhere between very similar and identical. So, the biggest known differences between the flu and coronavirus is the flu vaccine and the way the media are covering them.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2431561]I hope that the cases do not grow exponentially here as the Country would be ill equipped to deal with it. Additionally, the Colombian Government had an advisory that they would be screening all passengers arriving from the USA and other effected Countries like Italy and South Korea beginning on March 2 but I so no evidence of this when I arrived Thursday morning at Rio Negro. Although I was not arriving from the USA but from Argentina, I had a connecting flight on COPA from Panama City which had travelers from different Countries. Upon arriving zipped thru immigration and upon exiting at Customs they had a guy look at my Passport, right down the number, ask me where I was coming from, how much money I had, whether I had anything to declare, and sent me on my way.

There was nobody wearing masks, nobody with thermometers checking people, just one Customs guy and a security guard. And supposedly they were supposed to be screening people coming from the USA but maybe a flight from Panama City didn't qualify versus a flight directly from the USA. You would think they have manifests and they would know who's coming from where, especially on the COPA flights but I suspect it's pretty lax. I am not looking forward to any "reported" cases in Medellin, albeit I'm sure it's here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2431675]I came through immigration a copule of weeks ago. Most of the immigration agents were wearing masks. One of them was also wearing rubber gloves. A friend told me when she left Medellin last week the check in agent asked her if she had been to China during the past 14 days.

The latest information is coronavirus affects otherwise healthy people the way influenza affects them. People with pre-existing conditions such as asthma or other respiratory ailment, people aged 65 and older, and people who are generally frail are at higher risk of death from coronavirus and influenza. Coronavirus is thought to spread the way influenza spreads. The symptoms of coronavirus and influenza are somewhere between very similar and identical. So, the biggest known differences between the flu and coronavirus is the flu vaccine and the way the media are covering them.[/QUOTE]

Way to spread misinformation. Covid is 3 times as infectious as the flu. Flu has a mortality rate of. 1%, Covid is 3. 4% estimated - 34 times greater. Covid leaves 20% hospitalized. Flu stays on surfaces for 24 hours, Covid is up to 7 days. Flu is not infectious with no symptoms and has an incubation period of 2-5 days. Covid is contagious with no symptoms present and the incubation period is 5-27 days. Flu does not cause lethal pneumonia, Covid does. This has nothing to do with the media. There is legitimately an overwhelming amount of data from the scientific community about this. Do countries shut down entire cities for the flu? Do you think they want to do that and cripple their own economy if it weren't necessary? Covid is FAR more similar to the Spanish Flu of 1918 than seasonal influenza if you want to be making comparisons.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2431698]Way to spread misinformation. Covid is 3 times as infectious as the flu. Flu has a mortality rate of. 1%, Covid is 3. 4% estimated - 34 times greater. Covid leaves 20% hospitalized. Flu stays on surfaces for 24 hours, Covid is up to 7 days. Flu is not infectious with no symptoms and has an incubation period of 2-5 days. Covid is contagious with no symptoms present and the incubation period is 5-27 days. Flu does not cause lethal pneumonia, Covid does. This has nothing to do with the media. There is legitimately an overwhelming amount of data from the scientific community about this. Do countries shut down entire cities for the flu? Do you think they want to do that and cripple their own economy if it weren't necessary? Covid is FAR more similar to the Spanish Flu of 1918 than seasonal influenza if you want to be making comparisons.[/QUOTE]I think it's too early to be able to actually compare the Coronavirus to the flu statistically at this point because there has been a lot of under reporting of the actual cases and it is a new disease. So I suspect the mortality rate may actually be a bit lower.

What's disappointing is how ill prepared the USA has been for all of this. When China shutdown an entire City of like 13 million people, and built a Hospital in less than 10 days that should of been a wake up call for USA over a month ago to start getting it's shit together. The whole debacle on the test kits, etc. Is incredible to say the least.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2431462]It is the first reported case but I would bet my entire life savings on the fact that it is definitely not the first actual case here. I am sure it has been here for at least two weeks. It is what it is, but I am happy to be leaving in 10 days as this is when the "confirmed reported cases" will start to grow exponentially.[/QUOTE]Well contrary to you looking forward to leaving in ten days, and I am assuming your going back to the USA, you may be regretting leaving, in that the Coronavirus may be ravaging the USA and not so much yet here.

So far there has been little effect yet in the Southern Hemisphere, and perhaps this thing is like the flu as we know it, and when the seasons have done an about face the Southern Hemisphere might be reeling with it in July and August. I hope not, I can only imagine how poorly India and Africa would fare. Maybe with Medellin being near the Equator it will be spared to some degree.

Nice report, it's enjoyable to read. I must say, 2 hours of facebook research seems like hard work to lazy me.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2431457]I've been insanely active in the mornings, scouring Facebook for more contacts, sending messages, adding friends. Getting phone numbers. The ratios are stupid. Search through 5000 people, find 200 I like, request to add all 200, send messages to 40, get 20 friend acceptances get 5 message responses. Fuck me. It's rough and it takes tons of time. I am also being super picky and only adding the ones I really am interested in and would see.

I'm really enjoying my morning routine. Hit Facebook for 2 hours, make breakfast, which is always some combo of eggs, bacon, fruit, OJ, get dressed around 11 am - 12 pm and think about what I feel like doing. I've been lazy af here and haven't done a lot of the tourist stuff like Comuna 13 or Guatape but I've been low energy and my stomach has been off so hopefully next week I'll knock some of that out.

I confirm with Aleja for tonight, we've been talking for a week at least and the timing keeps getting messed up. Then she lost her cedula and says she has the denuncia, but I tell her she needs another form of ID that has the cedula number, like a school ID. She says she has it.

Cool, great. I get bandeja paisa delivered for lunch, its okay, not great. Don't recommend it from Palo Santo Poblado. Wouldn't order again from them...[/QUOTE]

Is there any correlation between the 20% hospitalization rate you mentioned and the condition of those hospitalized, or is it just random. I read that coronavirus self resolves in 80% of the cases. Is that also misinformation?

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2431698]Way to spread misinformation. Covid is 3 times as infectious as the flu. Flu has a mortality rate of. 1%, Covid is 3. 4% estimated - 34 times greater. Covid leaves 20% hospitalized. Flu stays on surfaces for 24 hours, Covid is up to 7 days. Flu is not infectious with no symptoms and has an incubation period of 2-5 days. Covid is contagious with no symptoms present and the incubation period is 5-27 days. Flu does not cause lethal pneumonia, Covid does. This has nothing to do with the media. There is legitimately an overwhelming amount of data from the scientific community about this. Do countries shut down entire cities for the flu? Do you think they want to do that and cripple their own economy if it weren't necessary? Covid is FAR more similar to the Spanish Flu of 1918 than seasonal influenza if you want to be making comparisons.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2431712]I think it's too early to be able to actually compare the Coronavirus to the flu statistically at this point because there has been a lot of under reporting of the actual cases and it is a new disease. So I suspect the mortality rate may actually be a bit lower.

What's disappointing is how ill prepared the USA has been for all of this. When China shutdown an entire City of like 13 million people, and built a Hospital in less than 10 days that should of been a wake up call for USA over a month ago to start getting it's shit together. The whole debacle on the test kits, etc. Is incredible to say the least.[/QUOTE]Agreed on all points. To your question about leaving in 10 days, it is because I feel more comfortable being in my own home, where I have over 100 days worth of supplies and wouldn't need to leave the house. I live in Puerto Rico, in a penthouse, with a private terrace. The temperature never changes and is always 82-85, a little less at night. I have everything I need there, entertainment, books, and private outdoor space that is no where near anyone else. If it comes down to it, I can easily stay there 90 days and not lose my mind, whereas being here in a 1 bedroom Airbnb with just a few sets of clothes would be tough.

Food for thought as to where someone might want to hunker down if they have a choice.

Italy is getting ready to lock-down a region of ten million people including Venice aka just like the Chinese did. Scary beyond belief, I am contemplating staying in Colombia for the time being, and not returning to the USA as I might get stuck there not being able to leave, either by lock-down or other Countries not excepting people from the USA. This is all so depressing what's going on.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2431721]Agreed on all points. To your question about leaving in 10 days, it is because I feel more comfortable being in my own home, where I have over 100 days worth of supplies and wouldn't need to leave the house. I live in Puerto Rico, in a penthouse, with a private terrace. The temperature never changes and is always 82-85, a little less at night. I have everything I need there, entertainment, books, and private outdoor space that is no where near anyone else. If it comes down to it, I can easily stay there 90 days and not lose my mind, whereas being here in a 1 bedroom Airbnb with just a few sets of clothes would be tough.[/QUOTE]You are very fortunate to be able to hunker down in such nice digs. Imagine staying in such nice digs in Medellin to ride out the storm!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2431715]Nice report, it's enjoyable to read. I must say, 2 hours of facebook research seems like hard work to lazy me.[/QUOTE]

It definitely is, its not hard work but its tedious. BUT, now I have maybe 20 or so chicas I really like, we know each other and have talked a lot. We have already negotiated our deals, its smooth sailing. So its a huge upfront investment but then tapers off. I have only seen maybe 6 of them so far, with another two that didn't make the cut, and hoping to get through another 6-8 this trip. I won't be able to see them all unfortunately.

Of course now I have more like 100 numbers but the 20 I'm referring to are the cream of the crop.

In regards to covid, I did not understand your question about the 20% that are hospitalized. My point was that its a lot more severe than the standard flu by orders of magnitude and I think its a disservice to downplay it so heavily. The impact on the healthcare system is going to be tremendous and the lack of preparedness in the US is going to exacerbate the problem, as well as create significant economic dominoes to fall. It's already happening.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2431724]You are very fortunate to be able to hunker down in such nice digs. Imagine staying in such nice digs in Medellin to ride out the storm![/QUOTE]I'm grateful to be in such a situation. And yes, I am contemplating getting a similar setup here in Medellin for maybe 4 months out of the year. My only concern being here to ride this out is that I would be tempted to have chicas over often, and they are going to end up being pretty big vectors of spread in my opinion. They interact with a ton of people and are in a lot of homes, with foreigners from all over the world. Definitely not ideal. I feel like I am already pushing my luck and may chill out my last week and be a bit less active.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2431698]Way to spread misinformation. Covid is 3 times as infectious as the flu. Flu has a mortality rate of. 1%, Covid is 3. 4% estimated - 34 times greater. Covid leaves 20% hospitalized. Flu stays on surfaces for 24 hours, Covid is up to 7 days. Flu is not infectious with no symptoms and has an incubation period of 2-5 days. Covid is contagious with no symptoms present and the incubation period is 5-27 days. Flu does not cause lethal pneumonia, Covid does. This has nothing to do with the media. There is legitimately an overwhelming amount of data from the scientific community about this. Do countries shut down entire cities for the flu? Do you think they want to do that and cripple their own economy if it weren't necessary? Covid is FAR more similar to the Spanish Flu of 1918 than seasonal influenza if you want to be making comparisons.[/QUOTE]I don't know where you get your information; but according to the WHO Director General, you are spreading misinformation. This is some of what the Director General said on March 3 "First, COVID-19 does not transmit as efficiently as influenza, from the data we have so far.

With influenza, people who are infected but not yet sick are major drivers of transmission, which does not appear to be the case for COVID-19.

Evidence from China is that only 1% of reported cases do not have symptoms, and most of those cases develop symptoms within 2 days. .

Globally, about 3. 4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected. " "Far fewer than 1%" doesn't translate to 0. 1%.

I have checked information from CDC and can not find any stats that correlate to what you posted.

About the disappear this two girls Damina and Jennifer I know now. I like damina very much I was many times with and she is not a expensive girl you can have a romantic girlfriend experience with very nice. The other Jenifer I try before she is too ***** for me in sex not my tipe I am a romantic one but people who like porn experience she is very good a litle expensive but good job. They disappear from last September one day take everything and left without say nothing. I had before Damina number but I think she change now I can't contact anymore to see where she is. But the only thing I know from her is that she must leave because of some problems with H angels. I don't know exactly where is she now but I hope come again. This two virls was very good friends but I hear about Jenifer every boy have Damina something she try to keep. I don't know exactly about this only Asia say to me some things because she is friend with Damina. I hope come again.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2431742]I don't know where you get your information; but according to the WHO Director General, you are spreading misinformation. This is some of what the Director General said on March 3 "First, COVID-19 does not transmit as efficiently as influenza, from the data we have so far.

With influenza, people who are infected but not yet sick are major drivers of transmission, which does not appear to be the case for COVID-19.

Evidence from China is that only 1% of reported cases do not have symptoms, and most of those cases develop symptoms within 2 days. .

Globally, about 3. 4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected. " "Far less than 1%" doesn't translate to 0. 1%.

I have checked information from CDC and can not find any stats that correlate to what you posted.[/QUOTE]

I've just put in 15 minutes finding this for you, I won't be investing more. Each person can draw their own conclusions.

Flu: Top end Stats are 49m infections, 52000 deaths = . 1%.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm[/URL]

"During the 2018-19 flu season, about 35 million people in the US contracted the flu and about 34,000 died, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. This flu season, an estimated 32 million people have gotten the flu, with 310,000 hospitalizations and 18,000 deaths. " That would be around. 05%.

[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-compared-to-flu-mortality-rates-2020-3[/URL]

"Since first identified, the epidemic scale of the recently emerged novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in Wuhan, China, has increased rapidly, with cases arising across China and other countries and regions. Using a transmission model, we estimate a basic reproductive number of 3. 11 (95%CI, 2. 39-4. 13)".

[URL]https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.23.20018549v2[/URL]

Asymptomatic Transmission

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2762028?guestAccessKey=9e4e116a-7ab4-4a98-97b7-9b0bbedb5c6f&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=022120

"Doctors concluded that the woman's incubation period – the time during which she was infectious – was 19 days."

https://www.sciencealert.com/researchers-confirmed-patients-can-transmit-the-coronavirus-without-showing-symptoms

"Chinese health officials previously estimated that the incubation period for the virus ranged from one to 14 days, but recent research suggests it could be as long as 24 days."

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.06.20020974v1

I've just put in 15 minutes finding this for you, I won't be investing more. Each person can draw their own conclusions.

Flu: Top end Stats are 49 m infections, 52000 deaths = . 1%.

"During the 2018-19 flu season, about 35 million people in the US contracted the flu and about 34,000 died, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. This flu season, an estimated 32 million people have gotten the flu, with 310,000 hospitalizations and 18,000 deaths. " That would be around. 05%.

"Since first identified, the epidemic scale of the recently emerged novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in Wuhan, China, has increased rapidly, with cases arising across China and other countries and regions. Using a transmission model, we estimate a basic reproductive number of 3. 11 (95%CI, 2. 39-4. 13)".

The stats I want to see are.

OK 1st lets assume most mongers are between 40-60 yrs old and in general good health? I fit that demo, I will even say excellent health.

Now show me what % die each year in that demographic from the flu each year and what % are dying in that demo from the Chinese Wuhan virus.

Thanks, yes I found it and submitted it. Good point.

To anyone: When you join this forum, via the yearly fee, do you bypass the post moderation?

[blue]No. Only being Senior Member unmoderated.

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Yes, the current statistics can only be based on known cases. Most agree all cases are not known. Among known cases 8 out of 10 self resolve. Of the known cases that don't resolve or end in pneumonia or death, a very high percentage involve the elderly and / or people with pre-existing conditions. For as yet unknown reasons, children don't appear to be vulnerable.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2431712]I think it's too early to be able to actually compare the Coronavirus to the flu statistically at this point because there has been a lot of under reporting of the actual cases and it is a new disease. So I suspect the mortality rate may actually be a bit lower.

What's disappointing is how ill prepared the USA has been for all of this. When China shutdown an entire City of like 13 million people, and built a Hospital in less than 10 days that should of been a wake up call for USA over a month ago to start getting it's shit together. The whole debacle on the test kits, etc. Is incredible to say the least.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2431457]I've been insanely active in the mornings, scouring Facebook for more contacts, sending messages, adding friends. Getting phone numbers. The ratios are stupid. Search through 5000 people, find 200 I like, request to add all 200, send messages to 40, get 20 friend acceptances get 5 message responses. Fuck me. It's rough and it takes tons of time. I am also being super picky and only adding the ones I really am interested in and would see.



Cool, great. I get bandeja paisa delivered for lunch, its okay, not great. Don't recommend it from Palo Santo Poblado. Wouldn't order again from them.

.[/QUOTE]As for being picky and only adding ones you are really interested in, my strategy is a little different. I look at it as playing the long game, if an ugly prepago has over a thousand friends then to me that is a thousand potentially that may have some hotties in the list that I want to connect with, and if I have a mutual friend it can makes things easier.

I can only eat bandeja paisa when I am really hungry, its strange but for me if I am just normally hungry it tastes bland, but if I am really hungry than it is delicious and it really hits the spot.

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2431756]
The stats I want to see are.

OK 1st lets assume most mongers are between 40-60 yrs old and in general good health? I fit that demo, I will even say excellent health.

Now show me what % die each year in that demographic from the flu each year and what % are dying in that demo from the Chinese Wuhan virus.[/QUOTE]This graphic was in one of the links I posted.

I did literally nothing today. Medium grade headache, the air quality has been horrible. I made some new contacts on Facebook and got some more numbers.

I had a date set with Estefania, 2 pops, oral natural, 3 hours, 300 k. I wasn't really feeling into it today, not because of her, just in general, but we had scheduling difficulties like 3 times already so I just said fuck it, I want to check this girl out and I only got 9 days left.

Pollos Mario for lunch which I have probably ordered 5 times now and I really enjoy. They have a few options but I've been going with the rotisserie chicken, potatoes, arepas, rice, beans, plaintain. Its $7 delivered and ends up being two meals. This is typically my go to easy meal at home too. Meat, rice, beans, plaintains.

Watch netflix, argue with people about coronavirus on the forum during the afternoon. Just kill the day away.

Estefania shows up 15 minutes late, no problem at all with that and is super cute. Security didn't call me and we assumed they called the wrong apartment so it was weird when she showed up. Then there was a guy on the floor below in the common area near the elevators saying no, she is for him. We were all like what the fuck is going on right now.

Anyway, she's flaca and petite, which I like, but she does have a little baby damage in her belly, its minor but I really like that fit, toned stomach, which isn't easy to find here. We grab beers and chat for a few minutes and she asks to use the shower.

I've been talking to another girl, Daniela, who I am head over heals about. This girl is gorgeous, fit, unbelievably nice, natural butt. We've been talking for awhile before I even arrived here. There has never been any discussion about pay for play. I am texting with her while Estefania is here on and off. Daniela tells me she's going through a rough time right now and needs to find work. I ask what kind of work, she tells me scooter rentals and a local store, she's not giving me any hints! So she says something about how guys are always asking her for sex for money, and I say, oh and you do not do this? And she responds, No I do. LOL So we move into that conversation and she says she didn't think I would want to talk to her if I knew that. I said well I am okay with being friends, or being closer, and being intimate and helping you. I don't judge, I am open. So finally we're in. We negotiate to my normal terms, at this point, I don't feel like I need to say it, its the same with every chica. We set a date for tomorrow.

Honestly, I'm getting drained after 12 days of smashing, not going to lie LOL I am way more into it when I get a day off but I want to see this girl so bad, I tell her tomorrow is good. I also have a date I am REALLY excited about on Monday and wanted Sunday off, but I am not passing this opportunity up. Fuck it.

Estefa comes out of the bathroom in just her panties, she has absolutely no tits at all, I knew they were small but not non-existent and she barely does any kissing, I can clearly tell she doesn't want to DFK. First girl that's been like that. She moves to the BJ pretty fast and its okay, nothing to write home about, not terrible either, no complaints but she's not wowing me with anything here.

Condom on and she wants to ride me and does go at that pretty hard. Because she's so small, she's tight and it feels great. She has a beautiful face to look at so I am enjoying that. We move to missionary for awhile and I finish in that position. Overall, its not GFE, I would say easily the most mechanical of any of the women I've seen here so far.

She offers to give me a massage which I accept because my shoulder is a little fucked up from sleeping on it weird. It's basically a relaxing rub, nothing more, but feels nice. I'm pretty tired and she can tell, and I'm like half asleep, and I can also tell she's just not really into being a great provider, she'll show up with a smile on her face, but you're not getting much more than that, you know.

So I tell her, look I am really tired so if you want to stay for one more polvo, its all good or you can also go now and I can give you 200 k instead. She thinks about it for a minute and says, ok no problem amor, I can go now and you can rest. Nice. This doesn't deplete me for tomorrow and I save 100 k. Totally happy with this, plus the service wasn't worth spending another hour and a half with her unfortunately.

Throw some laundry in the washer, eating dinner, going to watch netflix and pass out. Kind of an odd day, but got to knock a chica off the list that won't make the final cut into my Hall of Fame.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2431781]As for being picky and only adding ones you are really interested in, my strategy is a little different. I look at it as playing the long game, if an ugly prepago has over a thousand friends then to me that is a thousand potentially that may have some hotties in the list that I want to connect with, and if I have a mutual friend it can makes things easier.

I can only eat bandeja paisa when I am really hungry, its strange but for me if I am just normally hungry it tastes bland, but if I am really hungry than it is delicious and it really hits the spot.[/QUOTE]

At this point, I have at least 1 mutual friend with every chica I find. I don't need any of the ones I don't like for that purpose. Plus I really don't want to see their FB stories and posts, its just more clutter. I strictly want to look at my FB stories feed and use it like a catalog of only women I would see.

According to that chart I am already dead. LOL!

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2431801]This graphic was in one of the links I posted.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2431712]I think it's too early to be able to actually compare the Coronavirus to the flu statistically at this point because there has been a lot of under reporting of the actual cases and it is a new disease. So I suspect the mortality rate may actually be a bit lower.

What's disappointing is how ill prepared the USA has been for all of this. When China shutdown an entire City of like 13 million people, and built a Hospital in less than 10 days that should of been a wake up call for USA over a month ago to start getting it's shit together. The whole debacle on the test kits, etc. Is incredible to say the least.[/QUOTE]Mortality rates will drop, then they'll rebound, although probably end up a bit over 2%. Initially there are many unreported cases, but there are also many undiagnosed deaths.

Personally my only worry is that it will postpone my vacation.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2431742]I don't know where you get your information; but according to the WHO Director General, you are spreading misinformation. This is some of what the Director General said on March 3 "First, COVID-19 does not transmit as efficiently as influenza, from the data we have so far.

With influenza, people who are infected but not yet sick are major drivers of transmission, which does not appear to be the case for COVID-19.

Evidence from China is that only 1% of reported cases do not have symptoms, and most of those cases develop symptoms within 2 days. .

Globally, about 3. 4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected. " "Far fewer than 1%" doesn't translate to 0. 1%.

I have checked information from CDC and can not find any stats that correlate to what you posted.[/QUOTE]On the flu mortality rate: It varies by year, depending on which strain is most prevalent. Based on yearly estimates from the CDC, the mortality rate runs roughly between about 0. 08% and 0. 15%.

Currently it appears the COVID-19 mortality rate is much higher than influenza. One part that seems to be missing, acquired immunity. Most people have acquired at least some immunity to influenza. While this won't prevent everyone from getting the flu, it does reduce the severity for many.

We have no acquired immunity to COVID-19.

Please keep the reports coming. They are enjoyable to read. It's a view into how the other half lives for a Centro rat like me.

I know you didn't mean it that way but I have to say your coronavirus contingency plan to hole up in Puerto Rico gaveme some Zombie Apocalypse vibes with a dash of Idaho survivalism. I am holding out hope that coronavirus will go the way of SARS.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2431807]I did literally nothing today. Medium grade headache, the air quality has been horrible. I made some new contacts on Facebook and got some more numbers.

I had a date set with Estefania, 2 pops, oral natural, 3 hours, 300 k. I wasn't really feeling into it today, not because of her, just in general, but we had scheduling difficulties like 3 times already so I just said fuck it, I want to check this girl out and I only got 9 days left.

Pollos Mario for lunch which I have probably ordered 5 times now and I really enjoy. They have a few options but I've been going with the rotisserie chicken, potatoes, arepas, rice, beans, plaintain. Its $7 delivered and ends up being two meals. This is typically my go to easy meal at home too. Meat, rice, beans, plaintains.

Watch netflix, argue with people about coronavirus on the forum during the afternoon. Just kill the day away.

Estefania shows up 15 minutes late, no problem at all with that and is super cute. Security didn't call me and we assumed they called the wrong apartment so it was weird when she showed up. Then there was a guy on the floor below in the common area near the elevators saying no, she is for him. We were all like what the fuck is going on right now./QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2431772]Yes, the current statistics can only be based on known cases. Most agree all cases are not known. Among known cases 8 out of 10 self resolve. Of the known cases that don't resolve or end in pneumonia or death, a very high percentage involve the elderly and / or people with pre-existing conditions. For as yet unknown reasons, children don't appear to be vulnerable.[/QUOTE]Global Cases by Johns Hopkins updated frequently. You don't see statistics by age but see the whole picture worldwide. Received the link from friend and decided to share with BM's.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2431851] Personally my only worry is that it will postpone my vacation.[/QUOTE]Well I have my own worries as well, but they are somewhat different than yours, but that is nothing new. I would value your opinion and others as I have a flight back to California on the 15th to take care of some business matters, with a return to Medellin on the 19th. I have made arrangements to handle my business matters remotely if necessary, and my concern is two fold, I am concerned that if I leave, there is a chance I might not be able to come back as the news only get's uglier everyday now that the USA is on the radar. The other concern is where would I rather ride out the Storm, in California or Medellin. I have comfortable living arrangements here and there so that is not an issue in the equation. After reading about literally one third of Italy being locked down like what China did, I think it would be horrific if say Los Angeles were quarantined.

I'm also concerned about what things would be like in Medellin if it were to be hit hard like Italy or South Korea and with it being a third world Country it would be ill equipped to deal with things.

My thinking now is to stay in Medellin, and if it starts to get bad, meaning that the Colombia is going to get blackballed, I will just fly somewhere else as I have the resources to do this. So ideally, who wouldn't want to be "stuck" in Medellin, but I'm not sure. The last thing I want to do is get stuck somewhere having no flexibility, and I am very lucky that all options are open for me versus most others. I am curious as to what others think I should do.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2431939]Please keep the reports coming. They are enjoyable to read. It's a view into how the other half lives for a Centro rat like me.

I know you didn't mean it that way but I have to say your coronavirus contingency plan to hole up in Puerto Rico gaveme some Zombie Apocalypse vibes with a dash of Idaho survivalism. I am holding out hope that coronavirus will go the way of SARS. [/QUOTE]I'm glad the reports are appreciated, they definitely take time to write up since I'm including my entire day in them.

In regards to Covid, yea I'm with you 100% I hope it also dies out and goes the way of SARS but that spanned 9 months and only what, 8500 people contracted it? We've surpassed that by 15 x in just 2-3 months and I'd guess FAR more since so many are undiagnosed due to lack of test kits, bla bla we all know the reasons. SARS did have a far higher mortality rate but I think Covid is going to infect WAY more people.

I'm not very concerned for myself, I am young 30's and in good health, but the reality is that I just rather not take the chance. My home is very comfortable and if my worst case scenario is that I stay there for 60-90 days and spare myself a hospital stay, count me in. I generally cook all my own meals, the real only difference is that I will be going to the beach and restaurants less. It's a small price to pay to just avoid the whole thing.

Also recognize Puerto Rico imports over 90% of its food, so stocking up is also because I know how quickly every store sells out of food when people panic. Literally in 2-3 hours. The supply chain is a significant problem there, one that mainlanders will encounter far less.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2432021]Well I have my own worries as well, but they are somewhat different than yours, but that is nothing new. I would value your opinion and others as I have a flight back to California on the 15th to take care of some business matters, with a return to Medellin on the 19th. I have made arrangements to handle my business matters remotely if necessary, and my concern is two fold, I am concerned that if I leave, there is a chance I might not be able to come back as the news only get's uglier everyday now that the USA is on the radar. The other concern is where would I rather ride out the Storm, in California or Medellin. I have comfortable living arrangements here and there so that is not an issue in the equation. After reading about literally one third of Italy being locked down like what China did, I think it would be horrific if say Los Angeles were quarantined.

I'm also concerned about what things would be like in Medellin if it were to be hit hard like Italy or South Korea and with it being a third world Country it would be ill equipped to deal with things.

My thinking now is to stay in Medellin, and if it starts to get bad, meaning that the Colombia is going to get blackballed, I will just fly somewhere else as I have the resources to do this. So ideally, who wouldn't want to be "stuck" in Medellin, but I'm not sure. The last thing I want to do is get stuck somewhere having no flexibility, and I am very lucky that all options are open for me versus most others. I am curious as to what others think I should do.[/QUOTE]Honestly, where ever you're going to feel more comfortable a) being there for 30 days, 60 days, we really don't know how long these quarantines and lockdowns will last and b) god forbid you need it, where you can get quality healthcare and again, be comfortable. Only you can really answer that for you. For me, that's in my own home.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2432021]Well I have my own worries as well, but they are somewhat different than yours, but that is nothing new. I would value your opinion and others as I have a flight back to California on the 15th to take care of some business matters, with a return to Medellin on the 19th. I have made arrangements to handle my business matters remotely if necessary, and my concern is two fold, I am concerned that if I leave, there is a chance I might not be able to come back as the news only get's uglier everyday now that the USA is on the radar. The other concern is where would I rather ride out the Storm, in California or Medellin. I have comfortable living arrangements here and there so that is not an issue in the equation. After reading about literally one third of Italy being locked down like what China did, I think it would be horrific if say Los Angeles were quarantined.

I'm also concerned about what things would be like in Medellin if it were to be hit hard like Italy or South Korea and with it being a third world Country it would be ill equipped to deal with things.

My thinking now is to stay in Medellin, and if it starts to get bad, meaning that the Colombia is going to get blackballed, I will just fly somewhere else as I have the resources to do this. So ideally, who wouldn't want to be "stuck" in Medellin, but I'm not sure. The last thing I want to do is get stuck somewhere having no flexibility, and I am very lucky that all options are open for me versus most others. I am curious as to what others think I should do.[/QUOTE]If I can speak Spanish, get all my work done in Medellin, and afford to stay in there indefinitely (both financially and physically. Getting high and fucking 5 girls everyday is hard work), I would do it in a heart beat. If the world is going to end, I much rather be in the place I love. I don't have girlfriend / wife / kids and my parents are well off, so it is easy for me to make this call.

In terms of infrastructure, I have seen better infrastructure in Medellin than in California; more places in Medellin have strong LTE signal than California, the laundry service is faster, better and cheaper, rappi puts uberEats to shame, the public transportation is better (there is no real metro in California and no WiFi on the Caltrain). In Medellin you can find bars and clubs open until 6 am everyday, it's fucking last call at 1:40 am in every bar in California, Monday-Sunday. Even el centro is cleaner and better organized than the Tenderloin in San Francisco, I feel a lot safer in centro than in the tenderloin, and I speak zero Spanish (well, I have learned more than 100 words now, so I probably speak 0. 1% Spanish now). I can only imagine a better hospital system in Medellin. Only two things that are lacking in Medellin; one, there is no Apple Store in the city, if you crack your phone's screen, you can't use your AppleCare. Two, almost no one drives a Tesla, don't people care about the environment and indirectly supporting spaceX's mars mission?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2432021]Well I have my own worries as well, but they are somewhat different than yours, but that is nothing new. I would value your opinion and others as I have a flight back to California on the 15th to take care of some business matters, with a return to Medellin on the 19th. I have made arrangements to handle my business matters remotely if necessary, and my concern is two fold, I am concerned that if I leave, there is a chance I might not be able to come back as the news only get's uglier everyday now that the USA is on the radar. The other concern is where would I rather ride out the Storm, in California or Medellin. I have comfortable living arrangements here and there so that is not an issue in the equation. After reading about literally one third of Italy being locked down like what China did, I think it would be horrific if say Los Angeles were quarantined.

I'm also concerned about what things would be like in Medellin if it were to be hit hard like Italy or South Korea and with it being a third world Country it would be ill equipped to deal with things.

My thinking now is to stay in Medellin, and if it starts to get bad, meaning that the Colombia is going to get blackballed, I will just fly somewhere else as I have the resources to do this. So ideally, who wouldn't want to be "stuck" in Medellin, but I'm not sure. The last thing I want to do is get stuck somewhere having no flexibility, and I am very lucky that all options are open for me versus most others. I am curious as to what others think I should do.[/QUOTE]Given the choice between LA and Medellin, I'd take Medellin, without a second thought. Personally, I'd have more faith in medical in Medellin than the US.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2432021]
My thinking now is to stay in Medellin, and if it starts to get bad, meaning that the Colombia is going to get blackballed, I will just fly somewhere else as I have the resources to do this. So ideally, who wouldn't want to be "stuck" in Medellin, but I'm not sure. The last thing I want to do is get stuck somewhere having no flexibility, and I am very lucky that all options are open for me versus most others. I am curious as to what others think I should do.[/QUOTE]How important for you is not catching the virus?

I also planned to stay in Medellin, but now I am debating.

I have the following concerns:

1. I think it is much easier to catch it here than in Cali because I am switching girls here almost daily. That doesn't happen back home.

2. And if you catch it here, I don't know how well local healthcare can deal with it.

3. If it spreads here, I am not sure how badly it will affect daily consumables, food supply etc. I think USA supply chain will be affected less.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2432067] Personally, I'd have more faith in medical in Medellin than the US.[/QUOTE]Why? What is it based on? Please elaborate.

Real talk: There is no treatment so it doesn't matter where you are if you get it. What does matter is your current health (I. E. Compromised immunity, old age, pre-existing respiratory ailments). Everybody has to decide for themselves. I don't plan to sequester myself indefinitely because I am in good health. Thank goodness.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2432067]Given the choice between LA and Medellin, I'd take Medellin, without a second thought. Personally, I'd have more faith in medical in Medellin than the US.[/QUOTE]

No Apple store, LMFAO!

[QUOTE=SJobs;2432044]If I can speak Spanish, get all my work done in Medellin, and afford to stay in there indefinitely (both financially and physically. Getting high and fucking 5 girls everyday is hard work), I would do it in a heart beat. If the world is going to end, I much rather be in the place I love. I don't have girlfriend / wife / kids and my parents are well off, so it is easy for me to make this call.

In terms of infrastructure, I have seen better infrastructure in Medellin than in California; more places in Medellin have strong LTE signal than California, the laundry service is faster, better and cheaper, rappi puts uberEats to shame, the public transportation is better (there is no real metro in California and no WiFi on the Caltrain). In Medellin you can find bars and clubs open until 6 am everyday, it's fucking last call at 1:40 am in every bar in California, Monday-Sunday. Even el centro is cleaner and better organized than the Tenderloin in San Francisco, I feel a lot safer in centro than in the tenderloin, and I speak zero Spanish (well, I have learned more than 100 words now, so I probably speak 0. 1% Spanish now). I can only imagine a better hospital system in Medellin. Only two things that are lacking in Medellin; one, there is no Apple Store in the city, if you crack your phone's screen, you can't use your AppleCare. Two, almost no one drives a Tesla, don't people care about the environment and indirectly supporting spaceX's mars mission?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2431398]I have searched that site and I can't find anything about new entry requirements nor any form to fill out before arriving. Can you provide a link to the specific area?[/QUOTE]Here ya go buddy.

[URL]https://www.migracioncolombia.gov.co/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2431781]As for being picky and only adding ones you are really interested in, my strategy is a little different. I look at it as playing the long game, if an ugly prepago has over a thousand friends then to me that is a thousand potentially that may have some hotties in the list that I want to connect with, and if I have a mutual friend it can makes things easier.

I the spot.[/QUOTE]This is my method also. Remember. The key to finding the hotties on Facebook is when you have primed your "suggested friends". Just by being friends with this Chic will help in the Facebook algorithm to suggest you other chicks. Save that method of only adding the hottest of the hot until your suggested friends algorithm is like Tinder swiping. In the build up stage be a bit more lax. You can always delete them later. I now look at my news feed and unfriend ugly girls but that's because my stable is now of high quality IMO and my suggested friends are all Medellin women only. Except I must have requested a few Dominicans because I'm seeing a few of those girls in the suggestions.

I accidentally requested a hot Asian chick that looked Spanish. And I started getting girls from Asia. I went and deleted her and clicked "remove" Every time an Asian girl was suggested. It no longer suggest them. If I ever go to Asia I would create a brand new account for there as to not combine the two.

Headed over to the Mercado de Campesino's again for some empanadas and guarapo around 10 am. So good. Fun spot to just people watch and eat.

After some grocery shopping, I head back to the Airbnb and confirm with Daniela for tonight.

Eat some leftovers and kill a little time before a massage at 1 pm. Alexander again. It's really intense and painful in the areas that need it. My neck and shoulder have been bothering me since I slept on it in a weird way. Hour and a half massage for 100 k and worth it.

Couple hours go by and realize I forgot some things at Exito so I walk down to the Carulla which is close by, about 10 min walk at a slow pace. By the time I get back, its about an hour out from Daniela arriving so I get showered, clean the place up, prep some of the food as I am going to cook dinner for us tonight.

I asked her to come at 8 pm but she wanted to come at 7 pm. I said ok, no problem with that. At 6:45 p I ask if she is on the way and she says she is just finishing getting ready and about to leave LOL She shows up 1. 5 hrs late at 8:30 pm. I expressed that I wasn't happy about this and would have preferred she be honest via text. She said, do you want me to go back home? Let me know. And with that response, I was really considering it, like damn, that's bad customer service.

I told her if we are going to have a good time than come but if something is going on or you're not in a good mood, than please don't. She was already pretty close at this point as she sent her live location.

She shows up and is just an insanely beautiful woman. We talk for a little and she asks if I smoke weed. I do, and I have some here, but I haven't even been smoking it. It's not really that great, even though by Medellin's standards, I guess it's pretty decent. So we roll one up and go to the balcony and she does speak decent English which is cool, but she's giving me her life story and it's a major downer and she's somewhat manic, it's kind of intense energy. We finish the joint and she sits on my lap and we start making out. I do love kissing her.

Into the bedroom and clothes start coming off. She has major baby damage. Which is surprising to me because she is an instagram model and she looks tight AF, so there is some serious photoshopping going on there. I was positive this chick was going to have a banging fit body. She's still thin but major stretch marks, her breasts and butt sag heavily, the typical obvious signs. I decide to just focus on her face because it's one of the nicest faces I've ever seen.

No BJ, right into sex, and she rides hard, like real hard. I'm into that, then we move to doggy and she can take a pounding and loves it. She has a small waist and the view from behind with dim lighting Is great. She also pushes back really hard on me in doggy which I liked a lot too, alright I'll give it to her, the sex was pretty good.

Intense finish and we lay in bed and make out some more before going into the shower to clean up. Seeing this chick was mostly about the fantasy I had blown up in my head since seeing her on IG many months ago. That's also why I tolerated the lateness, because at this point I just wanted to see if she was real and I knew I probably wasn't going to repeat.

We agreed to two hours and two pops but we also talked about me cooking dinner which I still offered to do. With other chicas, they have given way more time when this happens and it isn't an issue that we go over time. So I cook, I teach her some things. I make Fettucine Alfredo with the sauce from scratch and camarones. It's fun getting to do it together and she says its literally the best pasta she has ever had.

We're almost at time and she wants to smoke again so roll another up and I'm thinking we are going to go for round 2 as agreed. After we smoke and talk, she starts getting dressed to go, we are slightly over time. I debated making a thing out of it, and being like, you show up 1. 5 hrs late, and now you're bouncing out after 1 pop when we agreed on 2, but I'm tired, don't feel like starting a problem and now what, I'm going to ask her to stay for round 2 when she doesn't want to, that's not going to be fun, so I just say fuck it in my head, give her the agreed on 300 k and say goodnight.

It's a shame there are numerous negatives with her because she really does have such an insanely gorgeous face but I won't be repeating. I'm surprised that two of my earliest citas here are turning out to have been my best ones. Funny how that is working out.

Please! Stop! Jesus Christ!

Let's just agree to put this issue to bed! And discuss these chicks and trip reports!

OK we know we can catch a virus while traveling. Tons of people have posted statistics on here! Maps!! Links!! It's been discussed! Holy crap! It's a big deal. We get it! Jesus Christ! Thanks for the warning! Now back to the chicas! If anyone knows a chica that has it fuggin share that information ASAP! If not, PM each other about this crap or just Google your Corna questions. Somebody has to draw the line here. Let's get back to discussing trip reports! Sharing chica information! And tips how to navigate this City! This isn't frocking WebMD! This is international sex. Don't come here to do your college research paper on the most recent diseases available! Aids is here too! All sorts of nasty STDs! Robberies! Murder etc etc! I get the danger of the disease but this is overkill! Let's mush forward and back to the real important convos here. Chicas! And new places to find them! And what you paid etc etc! Unless someone has some new solid information that will change the scope of Medellin trip reports forum focused around this frickin virus Move on. I see guys trying to post trip reports! One guy is on Day 12 of his report!! Working his ass off to provide chica in site. And then we got to read 50 frickin post / arguments on the virus that everyone in the world is already discussing! Just to get to another solid trip report / post about tips to enjoy this chica palace. ! Then 50 more post and arguments about who can type the best, stat on the disease progression! Fricking DM each other and have at it! Jesus Christ!! It's OK to get side tracked in conversation but someone had to say it. I'll take the heat for those that silently are agreeing.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2432044]Two, almost no one drives a Tesla, don't people care about the environment and indirectly supporting spaceX's mars mission?[/QUOTE]

I think you may have it reversed. Like you said, Medellin has better public transportation. The equivalent of Metro is how many Teslas? The problem is the pollution from the buses but I read they are going to add a fleet of electric buses.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2432150]Day 13 - Daniela...[/QUOTE]I enjoy reading your report. Out of curiosity, if you want 2 pops, why not just ask for 2 pops, and not mention the number of hours? Why 2 hours with her? I think the other you ask 3 hours.

Heading to Medellin for the first time later this week. I've done a similar trip to Pattaya but I hear Colombia is very different. I have been trying to meet girls on tinder and Colombian Cupid (Which CC feels like a total waste of my money) but after a few texts they seem to vanish. Any experiences you guys can share with tinder or online dating sites?

I have read to avoid el centro after dark or for that matter not to really walk anywhere after dark.

Any decent spots to find people that speak English, like expat bars? I speak a little bit of Spanish but nothing more than a few years at university and would appreciate the reprieve of somewhere that speaks English.

I have read some pricing guides for girls so I think I have a general idea. For those that have been to Thailand is there a bar girl equivalent in Medellin? Like a bar I can just chill at and maybe take a girl home without the pressure of a brothel?.

Lastly with all this Covid stuff going on are locals or girls afraid of Americans? Like being extra cautious with extras like DFK?

I'd appreciate any tips for a first timer. I am only going to be there for like a week and a half but I'm trying to get the most out of it.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2432084]How important for you is not catching the virus?

I also planned to stay in Medellin, but now I am debating.

I have the following concerns:

1. I think it is much easier to catch it here than in Cali because I am switching girls here almost daily. That doesn't happen back home.

2. And if you catch it here, I don't know how well local healthcare can deal with it.

3. If it spreads here, I am not sure how badly it will affect daily consumables, food supply etc. I think USA supply chain will be affected less.

Why? What is it based on? Please elaborate.[/QUOTE]I'll put my reply in the General thread. I don't think it belongs here.

I will be in Medellin for the first time this Wednesday and staying for a week. I did my research and read through the thread. I also am meeting some friends that have been there before. I have mongering experiences in the DR (3 times) Costa Rica twice and Aruba. Due to work reasons I didn't have the time to pregame and make any connections on Facebook, Tinder or Seeking Arrangements.

I know some guys like to keep the gems to themselves and other don't mind sharing, If anyone doesn't mind sharing any high quality talent and their contact info with me it would be appreciated.

I have and am willing to share my All starts from the DR and Costa Rica. I have also befriended a smoking hot chica that loves in Bogota that has about a dozen smoking hot friends that are easily 8-10's.

The problem is they was $200 US. If you don't mind spending that on girls that look like supermodels I'm willing to share her contact info as well as a trade for those that visit Bogota.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2432023]I'm glad the reports are appreciated, they definitely take time to write up since I'm including my entire day in them.[/QUOTE]As someone who doesn't speak any spanish, nor have I ever been to either of the Americas, your report is fantastic and really has me wanting to visit South America for a few months. Keep it up!

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2432150]It's a shame there are numerous negatives with her because she really does have such an insanely gorgeous face but I won't be repeating. I'm surprised that two of my earliest citas here are turning out to have been my best ones. Funny how that is working out.[/QUOTE]I think this situation happens quite often, but most guys won't report it. They go chasing the dream girl, then realize she doesn't live up to the expectations.

If a guy does good research, without trying to plan out every minute, I think he has a better chance of success early on. The average chica is already pretty good. She's probably got at least a good body, probably clean, well kept and friendly. Anyone he starts with is likely to exceed expectations.

After that, he has a benchmark you're trying to beat. Search out prettier girls, better bodies and higher prices. But he ends up replacing service with looks. Plus, in the beginning, it's all fresh and new. First time, it's hard to believe someone looking that good will kiss you like you're her prom date and do everything for such a low price.

On a side note all the world uncertainty is doing good things to the exchange rate. Briefly hit 3599 on Friday. Anyone think it could reach 4 k?

Medellin Casas.

A report on Medellin Casas during a visit in late February.

* Recommended Casa.

Natalia.

Showed up here on a Saturday around 1 pm. They had three girls working at this time. I chose a girl named Dulce. Slim build, perky tits and a nice supple ass. The session with Dulce was okay, I got a nice little massage, CBJ with the routine sex positions (missionary / cowgirl / doggy). Overall I would visit this casa again. The place is clean, nice rooms and a good environment. Damage for thirty minute session was 40 k and 5 k for a bottle of water.

Akami.

After leaving Natalia I made my way here to Akami. First off let me start off by saying this was my least favorite casa. Place was really run-down and really dirty. They had about five girls working. The line-up wasn't too appeasing either. After seeing the first four girls present themselves I was about to just pay the viewing fee and leave. The last girl that presented herself though had me intrigued. Her name was Salome, slim morena with frizzy hair. So I said what the hell lets try this out. Unfortunately though the session was really bad. She did give me a BBBJ though. Thirty minute session 40 k. I personally wouldn't return to this casa.

The Following casas were visited on a Monday.

Yakusa.

I walked into this place about noon. There was a lady sitting at a desk and another girl just sitting about. Sat down in the viewing area, then the mamasan went over the services and prices. Then told me she only had the one girl available and that she was available too. I then asked her about what time she would have more girls available. She told me about 4 pm. Bought a water and said that I would come back later. Unfortunately I never got the chance to return. One thing to note is when she was going over the services offered, she mentioned threesomes could be had for 90 k.

Turcos Paradise.

After being buzzed in, I was met by a guy who led me to the bar area. The lad went over the services and prices and then asked if I wanted something to drink. Ordered a Gatorade and then went to the viewing room to await the girls. They had about six girls available. The girls ranged from slim build to average. Decided to go with a girl named Victoriana. Really pretty girl with long black hair. Had an okay session with her nothing remarkable. Thirty minutes session was about 40 k or 45 k can't remember.

Divini Women.

This place seems to be closed. Passed by Saturday and on Monday and both times the gate was closed. Didn't see any buzzer either by the gate.

New Life.

So I just passed by New Life. Standing right outside the entrance was a large group of gringos. I didn't venture into New life because there's a girl that works there that I met on my last visit. She's my hangout girl when I don't have any night time plans. I don't want to make things awkward going in there and choosing a different girl. I really like hanging out with her and I don't want to mess that up. Besides that I really recommend this casa, they have a good variety of girls to choose from.

Aiffe.

When I got to this place the door was open, I walked inside and didn't see anyone. I stood in the main area for a bit, waiting thinking someone would come out from the back. No one came out and the place was quiet. So I decided to leave and come back later. So I came back later and this time the door was closed and I had to ring the buzzer to get in. They had about five girls available. I took a girl named Andrea, wasn't going to session here but I was tired from walking around all day and needed somewhere to take a quick break. Okay so the sex with Andrea wasn't great. What was good though about Andrea was her massage and the way she kissed my body from my ears down to my groin area. So overall the sex was meh, but the massage was good. Thirty minute session 40 k.

Dulce Compania.

Okay this was one of my favorite casas this trip. Finally some girls with a little more meat on them. I'm into the voluptuous type girls. Great selection of girls here with a good variety to choose from. Saw a line-up of about 15 girls. I took a girl named Salome. Tanned skin, long black hair, nice rack and a medium size bum. Had a great session with this girl, every time we would switch positions she would go down on me before moving on. Man I love when girls squat down for a BJ then look up at you while blowing you away. Great time here and a great session. 40 k for a thirty minute session and 20 k tip for Salome.

Pamela.

This place is located a few feet away from Dulce compania. Walking in there was a girl sleeping on a couch and another girl painting one of the walls. Was greeted by the girl painting and led to the viewing area. Saw a line up of about seven girls. There was only one girl out of the seven that I liked. Her name was Natalie. She was a thick girl, just the way I like them. Had a nice session with her. I think this place is worth a look, since it's just a few feet away from Dulce compania. Thirty minute session 40 k.

Club de Amigas Sexy.

Another one of my favorite casas. This place is just a block away from Dulce compania. Saw a line up of about seven girls. I went with a girl named Cata / Kata something like that. Nice thick girl with an average bust but nice big bum. After a quick rinse in the shower I came out to see her laying face down on the bed butt naked. I knew then this was going to be a great session. This girl was really into the sex. She was very vocal, and seemed to be enjoying herself as much as I was. After several different positions I was worn out and so was she. We laid there for a bit just chatting and then she asked if I wanted a massage. I didn't even say a word I just turned on my stomach and let her do her thing. It was a very relaxing full body massage. I had only booked thirty minutes with her but since things were going so well I extended it to the full hour. While talking with her she said she was twenty years old and had only been in Medellin for five months. I forgot what part of Colombia she said she was from though. Overall the best casa session I had this trip. I can also recommend Sandra from Amigas Sexy, which I sessioned with on a previous trip. Hour session was 70 k or 80 k can't remember.

Safari.

I think this place is closed passed by on my way to Zandaly. Gate is pad locked and there was a for rent sign on the gate.

Zandaly.

This place is just a few blocks from Amigas sexy. Went up stairs and there were a few locals having a drink at the bar. Saw a line up of about eight girls. Picked a girl named Dulce. Unfortunately I picked wrong. After a lousy BJ, she got on top for cowgirl then started waving her fucking arms up and down like she was about to fuckin take off. On top of that she was making these weird facial expressions. I couldn't take it anymore so I asked her to switch to doggy. I couldn't get the vision out of my head of her flapping her god damn arms around. After a bit I just stopped and told her I had to go. Overall nice place, decent line up of girls when I was there. Thirty minute session 40 k.

Barcelona.

Visited this place on a Tuesday around 1 pm. Saw a line up of about seven girls. They had a few MILF looking type girls here. There was only one girl I was interested in but unfortunately she had a bunch of tattoos which is a turn-off for me. I paid the viewing fee and left.

Energy.

Came here on a Wednesday around 2 pm. After being buzzed in by the mamasan, I was led to the viewing room. I was given a piece of paper and a pen, so that I could right down the numbers of the girls I liked. About twenty girls presented themselves. I forgot the girl's name that I chose but her number was one and she was from Venezuela. Was led up stairs to probably the best casa room I had seen so far. It was a giant room with a mattress in the middle of the room and a big window looking out onto the street. The session started off with a nice body to body massage. Then she covered me up for nice BJ. Then followed a few positions. My favorite part of the session was when I had her in doggy and she told me to pull her hair. Man when she said that I got really turned on. Ended up finishing on her nice teardrop breast. Great session with this girl from Venezuela. Hour session was 140 k.

Stayed tuned for my report on El Centro street action.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2432044]If I can speak Spanish, get all my work done in Medellin, and afford to stay in there indefinitely (both financially and physically. Getting high and fucking 5 girls everyday is hard work), I would do it in a heart beat. If the world is going to end, I much rather be in the place I love. I don't have girlfriend / wife / kids and my parents are well off, so it is easy for me to make this call.

In terms of infrastructure, I have seen better infrastructure in Medellin than in California; more places in Medellin have strong LTE signal than California, the laundry service is faster, better and cheaper, rappi puts uberEats to shame, the public transportation is better (there is no real metro in California and no WiFi on the Caltrain). In Medellin you can find bars and clubs open until 6 am everyday, it's fucking last call at 1:40 am in every bar in California, Monday-Sunday. Even el centro is cleaner and better organized than the Tenderloin in San Francisco, I feel a lot safer in centro than in the tenderloin, and I speak zero Spanish (well, I have learned more than 100 words now, so I probably speak 0. 1% Spanish now). I can only imagine a better hospital system in Medellin. Only two things that are lacking in Medellin; one, there is no Apple Store in the city, if you crack your phone's screen, you can't use your AppleCare. Two, almost no one drives a Tesla, don't people care about the environment and indirectly supporting spaceX's mars mission?[/QUOTE]Man you guys are not patriotic, putting Colombia as superior infrastructurally to the US.

Nevertheless, my greatest fear in a tourism dependent third world country is under reporting for fear of loss of foreign revenue. Look at the Philippines and Indonesia with about 10 cases each. Really? With thousands in Italy?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2432163]I enjoy reading your report. Out of curiosity, if you want 2 pops, why not just ask for 2 pops, and not mention the number of hours? Why 2 hours with her? I think the other you ask 3 hours.[/QUOTE]We did confirm 2 pops and I asked for 3 hours but she said only 2. I ask how long they will stay because some will say 1 hour and I don't meet with them typically because I don't like rushing like that.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2432231]Man you guys are not patriotic, putting Colombia as superior infrastructurally to the US.

Nevertheless, my greatest fear in a tourism dependent third world country is under reporting for fear of loss of foreign revenue. Look at the Philippines and Indonesia with about 10 cases each. Really? With thousands in Italy?[/QUOTE]There actually is some validity to what Sjobs was referring to in California not the US as a whole regarding the infrastructure in Medellin being better than some parts of California.

As far cases being under reported, I think it's more a matter of the Countries you mentioned having the capability to test for the virus in great numbers which the USA can't seem to do, but you also have to consider the following.

You mentioned the Philippines and Indonesia, what about Africa and India. Perhaps this virus is like the flu in some ways as we know it, all of the hard hit Countries thus far have been places that are cold in the Winter, and the Southern Hemisphere is next. Maybe Countries close to the Equator will be less effected. I hope so.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2432231]Man you guys are not patriotic, putting Colombia as superior infrastructurally to the US.

Nevertheless, my greatest fear in a tourism dependent third world country is under reporting for fear of loss of foreign revenue. Look at the Philippines and Indonesia with about 10 cases each. Really? With thousands in Italy?[/QUOTE]Being patriotic just means you support your own country. I support the USA, but the reality is that our infrastructure is old and failing. There are many countries that were once far behind the US but because of technological leapfrogging, are now far superior the US. It's an objective fact that many places in Asia have accomplished this. I am surprised by how clean, modern and functional Medellin is. I am amazed at the quality of the architecture, construction and interior design I see on tons of Airbnb's here. The quality and standard of life is quite high, at least in the developed areas of Poblado, Laureles etc. Not to mention that everything Sjobs listed is true and a fraction of the cost of what those same services would be in the US and they work better and faster.

At this point, everywhere except South Korea and potentially Italy are under-reporting to a level we can't really fathom. After that one case in Washington, it was determined by the variant and timeline of that individual, that there are most likely thousands of undetected cases, that was 7-10 days ago. The US has had ridiculously stringent testing requirements to even quality for your sample to go to a lab, many Dr's requested testing and were denied all over the country. Then, when a sample did qualify, it turns out the tests were defective and we are just sending out functional test kits now, over a month later. The US has handled this horribly from the start.

Now we have medical professionals, nurses, ER Dr's saying they literally have 2 boxes of face masks for their entire hospital staff because of shortages and over purchasing by the public, in addition to Asia stopping all export of masks. So the US had 2 months time to prepare and stock supplies since the Wuhan outbreak and didn't and now they do not have even the most basic of items they need to keep their staff from being infected. So to compound the issue, once you have healthcare professionals falling ill for 3-4 weeks, you can see where this goes and it isn't pretty.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2432084]How important for you is not catching the virus?

I also planned to stay in Medellin, but now I am debating.

I have the following concerns:

1. I think it is much easier to catch it here than in Cali because I am switching girls here almost daily. That doesn't happen back home.

2. And if you catch it here, I don't know how well local healthcare can deal with it.

3. If it spreads here, I am not sure how badly it will affect daily consumables, food supply etc. I think USA supply chain will be affected less.

Why? What is it based on? Please elaborate.[/QUOTE]Of course I am concerned about not catching the virus and trying to avoid it, but how to avoid it staying in Medellin is another story in itself.

Your questions are pretty much mine as well in that nobody else has raised them thus far.

In answers to your questions, and I don't completely understand question # 1 in regards to Cali in Colombia or California, but I believe your correct that it might be easier to catch the virus in Medellin versus Cali in Colombia as there are less tourists there than here. And in fact, probably the most dangerous part of Medellin to getting exposed to the virus at least for know until there is community spread would be in El Poblado versus an Estrata 1 barrio in Bello where there are no foreigners.

As far the girls your doing, my bet at least in Medellin the El Centro girls who primarily do locals, versus the FayBoo girls who have lots of foreigners are going to be a safer bet for the time being.

As far as local healthcare providers being able to handle the virus in Colombia. I think if it's just a very limited amount they will be able to handle it, but if it's on the scale of some of the other hard hit Countries it will be a total disaster.

As far as food goes, who knows. If your have a place to hunker down, it would probably best to stock up on supplies to supplement what might not be available.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2431742]I don't know where you get your information; but according to the WHO Director General, you are spreading misinformation. This is some of what the Director General said on March 3 "First, COVID-19 does not transmit as efficiently as influenza, from the data we have so far.

With influenza, people who are infected but not yet sick are major drivers of transmission, which does not appear to be the case for COVID-19.

Evidence from China is that only 1% of reported cases do not have symptoms, and most of those cases develop symptoms within 2 days. .

Globally, about 3. 4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected. " "Far fewer than 1%" doesn't translate to 0. 1%.

I have checked information from CDC and can not find any stats that correlate to what you posted.[/QUOTE]CDC is playing with Data that may or may not have the big picture in mind. It has been established that there are at least 2 strains of it in circulation. The strain from Italy / Iran has proven to be more potent on all aspects in comparison to the South Korea cases. For example, The Jewish Doctor from Westchester NY. About 22 people in his life that has ever lay eyes on this man in the past couple of weeks is not infected with Covid-19. That is a far more explosive transmission rate compared to the seasonal flu. People also fail to realize that we have no proactive treatment for this new virus unlike what its like to combat the seasonal flu. There will be no Thera-Flu to drink nor any Tamiflu pills to pop, the only treatment for these cases are what they call supportive treatment. Essentially, helping you through the storm as your body fights it off (or not).

The current US testing capability is also worst in the western world. The population spreading it asymptomatically might never been able to know if they are indeed a spreader as we aren't even allow to get tested unless you are well on your way to die. There are currently 500 cases and 22 deaths, quickly approaching the CDC's worldwide observed rate of death. This virus is far more aggressive than the seasonal flu, the who really needs to start giving advice based on region and strain.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2432231]Man you guys are not patriotic, putting Colombia as superior infrastructurally to the US.

Nevertheless, my greatest fear in a tourism dependent third world country is under reporting for fear of loss of foreign revenue. Look at the Philippines and Indonesia with about 10 cases each. Really? With thousands in Italy?[/QUOTE]Since when is expressing an opinion about infrastructure anything to do with patriotism. If you mean that you have to say that the US is the best in the world at everything be my guest. But that isn't patriotism. It's just plain wrong.

The danger with the US as far as Covid-19 is that once it gets into the stage of "community transmission" which I believe it already has. The reluctance and inability of many people to get medical help is real. In other words, if you do not have adequate insurance, or your co-pays are too high, or you are poor. You are not going to go to get checked for what seems like a cold or the flu. Hence a rapid spread of the virus. In other countries with better health care this will be far less likely. Hopefully.

As far as under-reporting. I think this is a problem everywhere, and compounded in the US by lack of testing kits.

And there is a faint hope that this virus is a bit like flu. It doesn't survive well on surfaces when humidity and temperatures are higher. As in tropical countries. And the global south in general. So far it is almost looking that way. Very few cases and low transmission in South America, tropics, Africa, etc. Hopefully that is the case.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2432278]Since when is expressing an opinion about infrastructure anything to do with patriotism. If you mean that you have to say that the US is the best in the world at everything be my guest. But that isn't patriotism. It's just plain wrong.

The danger with the US as far as Covid-19 is that once it gets into the stage of "community transmission" which I believe it already has. The reluctance and inability of many people to get medical help is real. In other words, if you do not have adequate insurance, or your co-pays are too high, or you are poor. You are not going to go to get checked for what seems like a cold or the flu. Hence a rapid spread of the virus. In other countries with better health care this will be far less likely. Hopefully.

As far as under-reporting. I think this is a problem everywhere, and compounded in the US by lack of testing kits.

And there is a faint hope that this virus is a bit like flu. It doesn't survive well on surfaces when humidity and temperatures are higher. As in tropical countries. And the global south in general. So far it is almost looking that way. Very few cases and low transmission in South America, tropics, Africa, etc. Hopefully that is the case.[/QUOTE]Damn Canadians! You're making the US look bad! BTW, there was a place in Santa Fe mall that had poutine. Not sure if it's still on the menu or not. Up in the food court. It's a place that just sells potato dishes. Never tried it, but was amazed to see it in Colombia.

Possibly the biggest issue with the US is no paid sick days and no job protection. Too many people don't have the option of staying home when they are sick. Not only will they not get paid, but they'll almost certainly be fired. This applies to almost the entire food service and hospitality industry.

Forget about that $40 copay. Forget about that $3,000 test, which nobody will say who is going to pay. Instead think about the single mother who can't afford to miss a single day of work, let alone 2-3 weeks. Think about the parents who have to send their kids to school, because they can't afford childcare. Think about all the employees who have been told they will lose their jobs if they don't show up. Now enjoy your Happy Meal.

On a mongering note, I think I've found an Airbnb which will work perfectly for me. Just waiting to hear back from the host. It's off the beaten path, down at the south end of Poblado, right around the corner from where I used to live. It's convenient to the metro if I'm going to Laureles or El Centro and right on Avenida Poblado, which means I can always grab a bus to Parque Lleras. Big food court literally steps from the elevator, plus walking distance to some good restaurants in Envigado. Also Euro and Carulla grocery stores plus 3 pharmacies right there.

Now if the host will just get back to me.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2432044] Only two things that are lacking in Medellin; one, there is no Apple Store in the city, if you crack your phone's screen, you can't use your AppleCare. Two, almost no one drives a Tesla, don't people care about the environment and indirectly supporting spaceX's mars mission?[/QUOTE]There is a MAC store that does full repairs in El Tesoro Parque Comercial--a huge fancy pants mall up the hill from Poblado. I have had them work on my Mac--sometimes it takes time to get the parts--but they are full service like in the US. Or at least used to be as of 2017 when I last used them.

Wow, really nice job with the report. Thanks for this. FYI the names of casas change pretty often, it's best to go with the street addresses and the name or just the street addresses. Zandaly, New Life, and Aiffe are some of the few that haven't changed names in years.

[QUOTE=Vinyl22;2432213]Medellin Casas.

A report on Medellin Casas during a visit in late February.

* Recommended Casa.

Natalia.

Showed up here on a Saturday around 1 pm. They had three girls working at this time. I chose a girl named Dulce. Slim build, perky tits and a nice supple ass. The session with Dulce was okay, I got a nice little massage, CBJ with the routine sex positions (missionary / cowgirl / doggy). Overall I would visit this casa again. The place is clean, nice rooms and a good environment. Damage for thirty minute session was 40 k and 5 k for a bottle of water.

Akami..[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I meant California by Cali, not Cali, Columbia. Bad choice of abbreviation on my part.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2432270]Of course I am concerned about not catching the virus and trying to avoid it, but how to avoid it staying in Medellin is another story in itself.

Your questions are pretty much mine as well in that nobody else has raised them thus far.

In answers to your questions, and I don't completely understand question # 1 in regards to Cali in Colombia or California, but I believe your correct that it might be easier to catch the virus in Medellin versus Cali in Colombia as there are less tourists there than here. And in fact, probably the most dangerous part of Medellin to getting exposed to the virus at least for know until there is community spread would be in El Poblado versus an Estrata 1 barrio in Bello where there are no foreigners.

As far the girls your doing, my bet at least in Medellin the El Centro girls who primarily do locals, versus the FayBoo girls who have lots of foreigners are going to be a safer bet for the time being.

As far as local healthcare providers being able to handle the virus in Colombia. I think if it's just a very limited amount they will be able to handle it, but if it's on the scale of some of the other hard hit Countries it will be a total disaster.

As far as food goes, who knows. If your have a place to hunker down, it would probably best to stock up on supplies to supplement what might not be available.[/QUOTE]

What tends to happen is with experience your expectations change. We become more demanding. It's not so unusual for a photogenic girl to not be so hot from the neck down and to also be high maintenance. It's all good, you will have more and more fun. I know I love reading these reports.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2432150]We're almost at time and she wants to smoke again so roll another up and I'm thinking we are going to go for round 2 as agreed. After we smoke and talk, she starts getting dressed to go, we are slightly over time. I debated making a thing out of it, and being like, you show up 1. 5 hrs late, and now you're bouncing out after 1 pop when we agreed on 2, but I'm tired, don't feel like starting a problem and now what, I'm going to ask her to stay for round 2 when she doesn't want to, that's not going to be fun, so I just say fuck it in my head, give her the agreed on 300 k and say goodnight.

It's a shame there are numerous negatives with her because she really does have such an insanely gorgeous face but I won't be repeating. I'm surprised that two of my earliest citas here are turning out to have been my best ones. Funny how that is working out.[/QUOTE]

I don't share your opinion on some items, even if we take only Poblado and Laureles. We can meet in Laureles and I will give you a little tour. You will see trash, people living (sleeping, cooking and doing all the necessities) in unsanitary conditions etc. I guess you haven't been walking around here much or was with a stunning chica and couldn't take your eyes off her.

Regarding the internet, yes, as far as I know, the LTE coverage is pretty good in Laureles and Poblado. What about home internet? So far, I had mostly okay to bad experience. It is pretty bad in the evenings, when locals are back from work. And I mean really bad, sometimes bellow 1 mbps. My cell phone gives me much better speed. Even during the day, speeds often are below 20 mbps. This is pretty horrible by today's standards.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2432268]The quality and standard of life is quite high, at least in the developed areas of Poblado, Laureles etc. Not to mention that everything Sjobs listed is true and a fraction of the cost of what those same services would be in the US and they work better and faster.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2432205]I think this situation happens quite often, but most guys won't report it. They go chasing the dream girl, then realize she doesn't live up to the expectations.

If a guy does good research, without trying to plan out every minute, I think he has a better chance of success early on. The average chica is already pretty good. She's probably got at least a good body, probably clean, well kept and friendly. Anyone he starts with is likely to exceed expectations.

After that, he has a benchmark you're trying to beat. Search out prettier girls, better bodies and higher prices. But he ends up replacing service with looks. Plus, in the beginning, it's all fresh and new. First time, it's hard to believe someone looking that good will kiss you like you're her prom date and do everything for such a low price.

On a side note all the world uncertainty is doing good things to the exchange rate. Briefly hit 3599 on Friday. Anyone think it could reach 4 k?[/QUOTE]Well, her IG being heavily photoshopped was a downer. The sex was good but not the best I've had here.

And yes, I do think 4 k is coming quite soon.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2432386]I don't share your opinion on some items, even if we take only Poblado and Laureles. We can meet in Laureles and I will give you a little tour. You will see trash, people living (sleeping, cooking and doing all the necessities) in unsanitary conditions etc. I guess you haven't been walking around here much or was with a stunning chica and couldn't take your eyes off her.

Regarding the internet, yes, as far as I know, the LTE coverage is pretty good in Laureles and Poblado. What about home internet? So far, I had mostly okay to bad experience. It is pretty bad in the evenings, when locals are back from work. And I mean really bad, sometimes bellow 1 mbps. My cell phone gives me much better speed. Even during the day, speeds often are below 20 mbps. This is pretty horrible by today's standards.[/QUOTE]

I've only been in Laureles for brief periods but didn't see that. I've walked all around Poblado from Monterey Mall beyond Provenza, from Blux, down to Parque La Presidenta. I haven't seen anything like you mention. I still think the quality of life and value one receives here is VERY high for the dollars spent. I'm actually shocked how little I am spending and I know it could be done for even less if I tried.

The wifi at my Airbnb has been solid for over two weeks now, no issues. I can do everything I need, stream Netflix etc, never had a problem. I think it depends on the building and what the landlord pays for.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2432260]We did confirm 2 pops and I asked for 3 hours but she said only 2. I ask how long they will stay because some will say 1 hour and I don't meet with them typically because I don't like rushing like that.[/QUOTE]Can you negotiate price based on the number of pops only? I read your reports that sometimes 3 hours is too much, and in this case, 2 hours is not enough. Defining length of time does not seem to be in your favor.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2432396]Can you negotiate price based on the number of pops only? I read your reports that sometimes 3 hours is too much, and in this case, 2 hours is not enough. Defining length of time does not seem to be in your favor.[/QUOTE]Not entirely. I rather negotiate more time and have them leave early rather than want them to stay longer and they are trying to be out as soon as possible when those 2 pops are up. Last night was the only chica that stuck to the time other than photoprepagos girls which just suck in every aspect.

Every other chica has completely forgotten about the time. If you see the other reports, one wanted 3 hours max, stayed 5. One wanted 1 hour max, stayed 3, etc. They seem to want to agree to that so that they can go if they want to. Another I am seeing this week said if she is enjoying herself, she will stay longer but that her deal is 1 pop, 1 hour, 250 k. If I wanted 2 pops, it was 500 k. I negotiated that to 3 hours, 2 pops, 300 k plus taxi, but it took a couple of days of chatting and taking other dates before hers, and finally she came down closer to where I wanted to be.

The problem with ONLY agreeing to 2 pops is that they try to rush to get those 2 pops in as fast as possible. I have all night, I'm not doing anything else, so for me. I rather have sex, order food or cook, chat, share drinks, get to know them a little, practice spanish and then go for round 2 rather than back to back.

Initially, they want to spend less time (via text) but once they are here, they are down to hang out and spend more time. My speaking decent Spanish definitely helps. This is an assumption but because we have spent more time together and now are more comfortable with each other, rather than a fast 1 hour encounter, literally every FB chica I've seen texts me every other day asking how I am, when can we hang out again, if I am still in Medellin. I have said I am really busy and even the ones who were a bit more expensive have come down in price to meet again.

The short answer is I believe it is in my favor to add a time agreement far more than the one or two times it has not. As I said, its also a filter, because the girls who say 1 hour only, I don't meet with. I know that I will not enjoy my time with a clockwatcher.

[QUOTE=MongerLoids;2432164] For those that have been to Thailand is there a bar girl equivalent in Medellin? Like a bar I can just chill at and maybe take a girl home without the pressure of a brothel?.
[/QUOTE]The closest thing to finding bar girl will be strip clubs. Usually it is sex on site. You can find location, price in this thread.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4002-Medellin-Map-and-List[/URL]

For bars, You should be able to find more information by searching this thread using the words "gusto" or "lleras".

[QUOTE=Junior11;2432386]I don't share your opinion on some items, even if we take only Poblado and Laureles. We can meet in Laureles and I will give you a little tour. You will see trash, people living (sleeping, cooking and doing all the necessities) in unsanitary conditions etc. I guess you haven't been walking around here much or was with a stunning chica and couldn't take your eyes off her.

Regarding the internet, yes, as far as I know, the LTE coverage is pretty good in Laureles and Poblado. What about home internet? So far, I had mostly okay to bad experience. It is pretty bad in the evenings, when locals are back from work. And I mean really bad, sometimes bellow 1 mbps. My cell phone gives me much better speed. Even during the day, speeds often are below 20 mbps. This is pretty horrible by today's standards.[/QUOTE]Internet speeds in Medellin are bad. Struggled to get 3 Mbps upload speed until switched to fiber. Even then, was only hitting 25 Mbps. It will probably be a few more years before they're up to speed.

I'll take your tour in Laureles, or take you on one to some sections of El Centro. But then let me give you a tour of a US city, or worse, a US small town. Let me show you the houses surrounded by so much junk and garbage you can't see the house. Let me show you yards full of broken down cars, old TVs and rotting furniture. Let me show you the garbage strewn along the streets and highways, the vacant buildings and abandoned houses. Then we'll sit down in Flint for a glass of tap water.

Check out the parks in Medellin, or Bogota. First thing in the morning you'll see people out cleaning park benches, picking up trash, raking leaves. Or just walk down the street. Chances are you'll see a city employee tending landscaping, gathering trash or doing something to keep the city looking good.

Check out the streets themselves. Other than in much of El Centro, you'll find tree-lined avenues, with flowers and native plants. Avenida Poblado is gorgeous.

Check out the public transportation while you're at it. I looked into using public transportation in Indianapolis several years ago. To get from home to work required 6 different buses and nearly 4 hours, plus a 20 minute walk. In Medellin I'm rarely more than 30 minutes away from anywhere and the cost is under $1.

Medellin certainly has its share of problems, but in many ways it could teach the US a thing or two.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2432331]There is a MAC store that does full repairs in El Tesoro Parque Comercial--a huge fancy pants mall up the hill from Poblado. I have had them work on my Mac--sometimes it takes time to get the parts--but they are full service like in the US. Or at least used to be as of 2017 when I last used them.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, do they accept AppleCare+? I know a few places in Poblado that do repair, but they don't accept AppleCare, I ended up paying 300 dollars to repair my screen for a phone that is under AppleCare.

Good to know that regarding Poblado. I don't spend much time in Poblado and didn't live there. 90% of my experience in Medellin is based on Laureles.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2432393]I've only been in Laureles for brief periods but didn't see that. I've walked all around Poblado from Monterey Mall beyond Provenza, from Blux, down to Parque La Presidenta. I haven't seen anything like you mention. I still think the quality of life and value one receives here is VERY high for the dollars spent. I'm actually shocked how little I am spending and I know it could be done for even less if I tried.

The wifi at my Airbnb has been solid for over two weeks now, no issues. I can do everything I need, stream Netflix etc, never had a problem. I think it depends on the building and what the landlord pays for.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2432396]Can you negotiate price based on the number of pops only? I read your reports that sometimes 3 hours is too much, and in this case, 2 hours is not enough. Defining length of time does not seem to be in your favor.[/QUOTE]I rarely negotiate a time. There's one girl I know who will try to get me off and get out as quick as possible. With her I'll specify how long I want her there. When she knows I won't let her do that, she's a solid performer. Otherwise, I only make an issue if the girl says 1 hour. I'll tell her it's not worth it if she's only coming for an hour. An hour to get ready, 45 minutes to get to me and another 45 minutes to get home. Tell her it wouldn't be fair to her to spend so much time and only get to have fun for 1 hour. Then offer another day when she can spend 2 or 3 hours. In my experience, most are happy to stick around.

I also don't negotiate multiple pops. Generally I'm 1 and done. Even if I wasn't, I don't see an advantage to negotiating it into the price. Maybe you won't want the 2nd, or maybe she won't want the 2nd. If you both want it, it's going to happen anyway. If you both don't want it, it won't be as satisfying.

[QUOTE=MongerLoids;2432164]Heading to Medellin for the first time later this week. I've done a similar trip to Pattaya but I hear Colombia is very different. I have been trying to meet girls on tinder and Colombian Cupid (Which CC feels like a total waste of my money) but after a few texts they seem to vanish. Any experiences you guys can share with tinder or online dating sites?

I have read to avoid el centro after dark or for that matter not to really walk anywhere after dark.

Any decent spots to find people that speak English, like expat bars? I speak a little bit of Spanish but nothing more than a few years at university and would appreciate the reprieve of somewhere that speaks English.

I have read some pricing guides for girls so I think I have a general idea. For those that have been to Thailand is there a bar girl equivalent in Medellin? Like a bar I can just chill at and maybe take a girl home without the pressure of a brothel?.[/QUOTE]CC you'll find a lot of girls looking for relationships. Probably a waste of time at this point. My advice is to be direct. If they're not interested in coming over for sex, move on.

In most of Poblado you'll probably be okay walking after dark. Same with Laureles. Stay with the crowds. Avoid the deserted streets. If there aren't any people there, there's nothing for you to see.

You can find gringos throughout Parque Lleras. Patrick's Irish Pub and Juan Valdez are common Hangouts.

There is no real bar girl equivalent. Here are some options:

Gusto and other Parque Lleras clubs. You'll find working girls in most of them. They tend to be expensive.

Strip clubs. They run from cheap to expensive. Mostly it's on-site service.

The bar at the Mansion. It's a 50 k cover charge to get in. All the girls are working. Prices will be around 200 k. You'll have to take them off-site.

The El Centro bars. There's an area with dozens of bars, stocked with girls. Most of the girls are just there to get you to buy them overpriced drinks. However, some are available and others will consider coming to see you.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2432406] I'll take your tour in Laureles, or take you on one to some sections of El Centro. [/QUOTE]Totally in agreement with your previous post. I'll take ya up on the Laureles tour Junior if you two want to get together. I do want to see more of that area and get a feel for it. This is my last week here BTW. I'd be down to walk around El Centro again too as I want to grab another couple pairs of shoes one day this week. How is Wednesday or Thursday for you two?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2432413]I rarely negotiate a time. There's one girl I know who will try to get me off and get out as quick as possible. With her I'll specify how long I want her there. When she knows I won't let her do that, she's a solid performer. Otherwise, I only make an issue if the girl says 1 hour. I'll tell her it's not worth it if she's only coming for an hour. An hour to get ready, 45 minutes to get to me and another 45 minutes to get home. Tell her it wouldn't be fair to her to spend so much time and only get to have fun for 1 hour. Then offer another day when she can spend 2 or 3 hours. In my experience, most are happy to stick around.

I also don't negotiate multiple pops. Generally I'm 1 and done. Even if I wasn't, I don't see an advantage to negotiating it into the price. Maybe you won't want the 2nd, or maybe she won't want the 2nd. If you both want it, it's going to happen anyway. If you both don't want it, it won't be as satisfying.[/QUOTE]Interesting, I'll try that approach. I've been more clear with what I want upfront because they are clear that it is only 1 pop for their asking price. The reality is I know I am going to want two. There has only been one time I didn't want it and I offered her less to leave early and she accepted and it wasnt a big deal. She hit me up this morning to hang out again so no hard feelings I guess.

All the other FB chicas have been two pops and enthusiastic performers for both rounds. Actually, the second round has been even better than the first, we've had another drink, we've had some food which has been appreciated universally, or I cooked for them which really took things up a notch. Noticeable increase in performance. Last night was the first time a chica tried to duck out early without honoring the second round, and between her personality and tussi usage (forgot to mention that in my report), I was good with it ending early, so I ate 50-75 k, not a life changer.

Some are going to be like striking gold, most won't be. As this is my first trip here, I'm willing to invest a little more to get more time with these chicas to find the ones I want to see again. As I mentioned, they are hitting me up and offering to come for less now, so I think the initial investment was worth it. I'm not positive on that yet though but it looks that way.

While its a poor comparison, even at 2 hours for 300 k, let alone the 4-5 hour chicas for 300 k, its insane value. I'd be paying $150-200/ HR where I live or $300/ HR mainland. This whole trip being frivolous is costing me less than half of what I expected!

I had no idea local economy depended so much on oil. It probably depends significantly on tourism too.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2432205]
On a side note all the world uncertainty is doing good things to the exchange rate. Briefly hit 3599 on Friday. Anyone think it could reach 4 k?[/QUOTE]

At JjBee62, reading your message I recalled San Francisco and some small towns in West Virginia. You're right. There is plenty of poverty and problems with sanitation in the USA too.

At AdventureSeekr, as of right now, either day is fine with me if it is a morning tour 🙂.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2432406]Internet speeds in Medellin are bad. Struggled to get 3 Mbps upload speed until switched to fiber. Even then, was only hitting 25 Mbps. It will probably be a few more years before they're up to speed.

I'll take your tour in Laureles, or take you on one to some sections of El Centro. But then let me give you a tour of a US city, or worse, a US small town. Let me show you the houses surrounded by so much junk and garbage you can't see the house. Let me show you yards full of broken down cars, old TVs and rotting furniture. Let me show you the garbage strewn along the streets and highways, the vacant buildings and abandoned houses. Then we'll sit down in Flint for a glass of tap water.

Check out the parks in Medellin, or Bogota. First thing in the morning you'll see people out cleaning park benches, picking up trash, raking leaves. Or just walk down the street. Chances are you'll see a city employee tending landscaping, gathering trash or doing something to keep the city looking good.

Check out the streets themselves. Other than in much of El Centro, you'll find tree-lined avenues, with flowers and native plants. Avenida Poblado is gorgeous.

Check out the public transportation while you're at it. I looked into using public transportation in Indianapolis several years ago. To get from home to work required 6 different buses and nearly 4 hours, plus a 20 minute walk. In Medellin I'm rarely more than 30 minutes away from anywhere and the cost is under $1.

Medellin certainly has its share of problems, but in many ways it could teach the US a thing or two.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2432424]Totally in agreement with your previous post. I'll take ya up on the Laureles tour Junior if you two want to get together. I do want to see more of that area and get a feel for it. This is my last week here BTW. I'd be down to walk around El Centro again too as I want to grab another couple pairs of shoes one day this week. How is Wednesday or Thursday for you two?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2432432]Interesting, I'll try that approach. I've been more clear with what I want upfront because they are clear that it is only 1 pop for their asking price. The reality is I know I am going to want two. There has only been one time I didn't want it and I offered her less to leave early and she accepted and it wasnt a big deal. She hit me up this morning to hang out again so no hard feelings I guess.

All the other FB chicas have been two pops and enthusiastic performers for both rounds. ...[/QUOTE]OK, I've been trying to search the forums for this, but it ends up with hundreds of non-informative posts. How does one get started finding chicas on FB?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2432413]I rarely negotiate a time. There's one girl I know who will try to get me off and get out as quick as possible. With her I'll specify how long I want her there. When she knows I won't let her do that, she's a solid performer. Otherwise, I only make an issue if the girl says 1 hour. I'll tell her it's not worth it if she's only coming for an hour. An hour to get ready, 45 minutes to get to me and another 45 minutes to get home. Tell her it wouldn't be fair to her to spend so much time and only get to have fun for 1 hour. Then offer another day when she can spend 2 or 3 hours. In my experience, most are happy to stick around.

I also don't negotiate multiple pops. Generally I'm 1 and done. Even if I wasn't, I don't see an advantage to negotiating it into the price. Maybe you won't want the 2nd, or maybe she won't want the 2nd. If you both want it, it's going to happen anyway. If you both don't want it, it won't be as satisfying.[/QUOTE]This post is spot on. "If you both want it, it's going to happen away. " It's rarely to your advantage to negotiate multiple hours (or TLN) ahead of time, and that goes doubly if you haven't been with the girl before.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2432406]Internet speeds in Medellin are bad. Struggled to get 3 Mbps upload speed until switched to fiber. Even then, was only hitting 25 Mbps. It will probably be a few more years before they're up to speed.[/QUOTE]The LTE coverage is amazing, I just tether through my phone, I never bothered with the local internet connection.

I'm with you. I can't be bothered. One of the advantages of Medellin is if you want another pop or more time, just go get another girl.

[QUOTE=Combo;2432470]This post is spot on. "If you both want it, it's going to happen away. " It's rarely to your advantage to negotiate multiple hours (or TLN) ahead of time, and that goes doubly if you haven't been with the girl before.[/QUOTE]

For much less than $300 you could have shipped the phone to be repaired and then back to you. Yes, you should have a spare to use in case of loss, theft, or damage.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2432409]Thanks for the info, do they accept AppleCare+? I know a few places in Poblado that do repair, but they don't accept AppleCare, I ended up paying 300 dollars to repair my screen for a phone that is under AppleCare.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aramus817;2432445]OK, I've been trying to search the forums for this, but it ends up with hundreds of non-informative posts. How does one get started finding chicas on FB?[/QUOTE]Go to the General Info thread. Search for "Facebook. " Check out my posts on the results. In one of them I gave step by step instructions on getting started on Facebook.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2432436]I had no idea local economy depended so much on oil. It probably depends significantly on tourism too.[/QUOTE]Where are the foreign currency experts? I know we have a few. I just look at the rate from time to time and occasionally some bit of news will catch my eye.

Everything depends on oil. Remember, in 2008 oil prices tumbled just a few weeks before the markets took a dump.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2432409]I know a few places in Poblado that do repair, but they don't accept AppleCare, I ended up paying 300 dollars to repair my screen for a phone[/QUOTE]You should be able to fix it much cheaper at Monterey mall. Or the Centro Commercial near Hotel Botero.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2432432]Interesting, I'll try that approach. I've been more clear with what I want upfront because they are clear that it is only 1 pop for their asking price. The reality is I know I am going to want two. [/QUOTE]I think the dynamic will change if you want 2 pops but don't ask 2 pops in advance.

[QUOTE=Aramus817;2432445]OK, I've been trying to search the forums for this, but it ends up with hundreds of non-informative posts. How does one get started finding chicas on FB?[/QUOTE]This question has been asked so many times, I wish they have a machine learning algorithm to automatically provide an answer. You can search in the general thread for Jjbee's step by step instruction. Or just do the follow:

1. Find a fb chica's link in this thread, if you can't find one, then stop and log off, this approach is not for you.

2. Explore her friend list, look for her gringo friends and explore their friend list. This is hard work, but you got do it.

3. If you see a girl you like, send her a message, tell her you are in Medellin and want to meet, no need to friend her.

4. If she replies, then you can extend the conversation to service and price, it's better to be explicit on service and price, most of the girls will do GFE for 150 - 250+Taxi.

5. Don't bother the girls if your trip is more than a week away.

6. Prepare to send a lot of messages, the typical response rate is low.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2432542]You should be able to fix it much cheaper at Monterey mall. Or the Centro Commercial near Hotel Botero.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information. There is a place in the Santa Fe mall that quoted this insane price, I didn't actually fix my screen, I waited until I got back to the states.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2432549]I think the dynamic will change if you want 2 pops but don't ask 2 pops in advance.[/QUOTE]Definitely will try this out on the next new date I set. Already have plans for the next 3 nights though LOL.

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2430664]I'm not here too toot my own horn to give away my Facebook contacts. Just wanted to speak to a few of the new open-minded users. I like this new school of mongers!! I'm not that guy that argues on here or wants to knock anyone's methods or prices their willing to pay. Facebook has been a huge tool. When I started Mongering Medellin I was blown away by the amount of talent there. My first approach was just boots on the ground gold searching. I never tried SA because I don't want the expensive subscription. I tried Tinder and that works great for when you are there unless you buy the subscription. But Facebook has been the biggest gem ever for me. I have received so many free and paid appointments from there that it's crazy.

I've learned so much by interacting with the girls on there that it is literally my immediate go to when chica hunting. During those odd hours during the day hungover in your hotel. When trying to see where the locals party too. Or just trying to Red Shirt a dime you might not find walking the streets or in a bar. Of course PP and Miller are great. But FB has changed the game for me, if set up correctly. It's so simple and a great foot in the door. I literally have almost 1000 women in MDE on my friends list. I can't keep up with the inbox conversations. Barring fake accounts and a bunch of questionable semi pros. It is an amazing mechanism.[/QUOTE]What is PP and Miller?

[QUOTE=MongerLoids;2432164]'ve done a similar trip to Pattaya but I hear Colombia is very different. I have been trying to meet girls on tinder and Colombian Cupid (Which CC feels like a total waste of my money) but after a few texts they seem to vanish. Any experiences you guys can share with tinder or online dating sites?

I have read to avoid el centro after dark or for that matter not to really walk anywhere after dark.

Any decent spots to find people that speak English, like expat bars? I speak a little bit of Spanish but nothing more than a few years at university and would appreciate the reprieve of somewhere that speaks English.

I have read some pricing guides for girls so I think I have a general idea. For those that have been to Thailand is there a bar girl equivalent in Medellin? Like a bar I can just chill at and maybe take a girl home without the pressure of a brothel?.

Lastly with all this Covid stuff going on are locals or girls afraid of Americans? Like being extra cautious with extras like DFK?

I'd appreciate any tips for a first timer. I am only going to be there for like a week and a half but I'm trying to get the most out of it.[/QUOTE]If you are talking to chicas on Tinder, they are going to fade off until you set a time and a place to meet and possible a price.

You are probably better off hanging out at Parque Lleras Thursday through Sunday night. I am not sure about earlier in the week, Colombia is nothing like Thailand. I have not been to Pattaya but I have been to The red light districts in Bangkok and Phucket. The only bar where you can go to find all hookers is Gusto and it is $200 usd, where as right outside Gusto and just across the street in Lleras Park one can often find a pretty chica for 200 K pesos Colombian - (currently around $52 usd). Medellin is not a city with a lot of English speakers but Poblado and Parque Lleras are the areas that cater to gringos the most. On a busy night you can just about treat the Lleras Park as a bar, I did there are open air liquor stores where you can buy a cold bottle of beer and then walk around the park checking out the locals and sizing them up, I am an overweight balding guy in my fifties, if I a get a look from a chica I can pretty much tell she is a prepago so then I smile real big and if she smiles back, its most likely so then I just ask her "estás trabajando?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2432591]If you are talking to chicas on Tinder, they are going to fade off until you set a time and a place to meet and possible a price.

You are probably better off hanging out at Parque Lleras Thursday through Sunday night. I am not sure about earlier in the week, Colombia is nothing like Thailand. I have not been to Pattaya but I have been to The red light districts in Bangkok and Phucket. The only bar where you can go to find all hookers is Gusto and it is $200 usd, where as right outside Gusto and just across the street in Lleras Park one can often find a pretty chica for 200 K pesos Colombian - (currently around $52 usd). Medellin is not a city with a lot of English speakers but Poblado and Parque Lleras are the areas that cater to gringos the most. On a busy night you can just about treat the Lleras Park as a bar, I did there are open air liquor stores where you can buy a cold bottle of beer and then walk around the park checking out the locals and sizing them up, I am an overweight balding guy in my fifties, if I a get a look from a chica I can pretty much tell she is a prepago so then I smile real big and if she smiles back, its most likely so then I just ask her "ests trabajando?[/QUOTE]Thanks for information.

[QUOTE=GoldenGreek;2432177]I will be in Medellin for the first time this Wednesday and staying for a week. I did my research and read through the thread. I also am meeting some friends that have been there before. I have mongering experiences in the DR (3 times) Costa Rica twice and Aruba. Due to work reasons I didn't have the time to pregame and make any connections on Facebook, Tinder or Seeking Arrangements.

I know some guys like to keep the gems to themselves and other don't mind sharing, If anyone doesn't mind sharing any high quality talent and their contact info with me it would be appreciated.

I have and am willing to share my All starts from the DR and Costa Rica. I have also befriended a smoking hot chica that loves in Bogota that has about a dozen smoking hot friends that are easily 8-10's.

The problem is they was $200 US. If you don't mind spending that on girls that look like supermodels I'm willing to share her contact info as well as a trade for those that visit Bogota.[/QUOTE]Nothing guys? LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2432231]Man you guys are not patriotic, putting Colombia as superior infrastructurally to the US. [/QUOTE]I'm back in hell now, so I can spare the time to write this. In fact, I'm so fucking depressed to be back in California; I'm going to write two versions of response.

Version 1: my train of thoughts after living the depressing life in California for two weeks:

I believe in the principles upheld by the USA Constitution, and I genuinely love America as a country. I relish the intellectual freedom one enjoys in American universities, and I have benefited immensely from the highly evolved entrepreneurial culture in America. When 9/11 took place, I was a poor college freshman who frequently has to choose between buying food or marijuana (needless to say, I chose weed every time), I still donated money to the people in NYC. When Obama was running for president, I gave money to his champing, and when the opportunity to claim more tax return arises, I always turn it down.

In terms of infrastructure, we need to admit that places such as China and Colombia have surpassed us, this is not a unique problem in the USA, most of the older developed countries such as Switzerland and Denmark all have fossilized infrastructures. I was in the FKK Globe in Zurich last summer during the heatwave, that place has no A. C; every room in the Globe is over 100 F.

If there is something I can do to help America build better infrastructure, I will. But pretending the issue doesn't exist will certainly not help.

Version 2: I just spent 15 minutes going over photos I took in Medellin, and I'm projecting a state of mind where I just finished around one of a hot threesome with two of my favorite 18-year-olds. We are taking a break. They are watching some Colombian T. V. Dramas on Netflex; I took one more line of Tussi, refilled my whiskey, walked over to the balcony for some Mozart, in about one hour I will be ready for another divine double blowjob:

Concepts such as patriotism, nationalism, racism, and human-chauvinism are reflections of the immaturity of the human race. Looking at Earth from the perspective of the moon, there would be no sign of humans, not our reworking of the Earth's surface, not our grandest architectural achievements, not ourselves. From this vantage point, our obsession with nationalism is nowhere in evidence, and the idea of patriotism seemed farcical. On the scale of the Earth, not even the scale of stars or galaxies, humans are inconsequential, a thin film of life on an obscure and solitary lump of rock and metal.

Our planet is a pale blue dot in the vast cosmo, a point of light, a lonely pixel, indistinguishable from the many other points of light in the universe. But for us, this is home; this the only world we know. We collectively are responsible for preserving and cherishing this pale blue dot.

Allow me to quote verbatim two of my favorite passages from Carl Segan:

"The pale blue dot we call Earth. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds."

Just came back from 5 days of heaven in Medellin. Big thanks to Vitrea for hooking us up with so many things in Medellin. I can only repay your kindness when you return to Havana, brother! It was my first visit to Colombia and for sure it will not be the last time. I'm already looking at the calendar to plan for my next trip back to Medellin. Having mongering in DR, Panama, Jamaica, Chile and Cuba, IMHO, nothing beats Medellin, price and quality wise. Beautiful girls are just so affordable, you can't brain how it works. I have to admit I overpaid some of them with tips because they were just too good and not being compensated enough. No intention at all to spoil the market. If you're contemplating to visit medellin, I strongly suggest that you visit this place ASAP. You will not regret it.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2432538]Where are the foreign currency experts? I know we have a few. I just look at the rate from time to time and occasionally some bit of news will catch my eye.

Everything depends on oil. Remember, in 2008 oil prices tumbled just a few weeks before the markets took a dump.[/QUOTE]No foreign currency experts needed today as it's a no brainer, I just withdrew about five million pesos, the exchange rate is at an all time high, and if your in Colombia right now, now's a good time to hit the ATM's.

[QUOTE=GoldenGreek;2432586]What is PP and Miller?[/QUOTE]Photoprepagos and mileroticos. But my worst encounters have come from here. I think they are just tired and worked over. Compared to the FB chicas I've seen, I literally will never use those sites again.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2432591]If you are talking to chicas on Tinder, they are going to fade off until you set a time and a place to meet and possible a price.

You are probably better off hanging out at Parque Lleras Thursday through Sunday night. I am not sure about earlier in the week, Colombia is nothing like Thailand. I have not been to Pattaya but I have been to The red light districts in Bangkok and Phucket. The only bar where you can go to find all hookers is Gusto and it is $200 usd, where as right outside Gusto and just across the street in Lleras Park one can often find a pretty chica for 200 K pesos Colombian - (currently around $52 usd). Medellin is not a city with a lot of English speakers but Poblado and Parque Lleras are the areas that cater to gringos the most. On a busy night you can just about treat the Lleras Park as a bar, I did there are open air liquor stores where you can buy a cold bottle of beer and then walk around the park checking out the locals and sizing them up, I am an overweight balding guy in my fifties, if I a get a look from a chica I can pretty much tell she is a prepago so then I smile real big and if she smiles back, its most likely so then I just ask her "ests trabajando?[/QUOTE]Thanks, I took 3 years of Spanish in college so I know a bit and don't really have a problem exploring. I'm a decent looking 29 y / o and I just prefer the style of chatting up a chick in a bar for awhile before I take her home (ideally a holiday girlfriend). Not a big fan of the mechanical lay but not opposed when I need a fix. Any recommendations for gringo bars or places expats hang out? I don't mind speaking Spanish but it can be strenuous since I never use it at home.

I'll be in town Friday if anyone wants to grab a beer.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2432655]In terms of infrastructure, we need to admit that places such as China and Colombia have surpassed us, this is not a unique problem in the USA,[/QUOTE]The infrastructure in US is built for cars. Most of what you mentioned really come down to one thing, that is everything is cheaper, but not better if you don't make price comparison.

Medellin Metro is good for what they can afford but it still lacks many things. It's not handicap friendly for one. It is an inferior system when compare to others around the world.

We can't compare one city to the whole country. Even Medellin is not representative of Colombia, and you are only seeing the more affluent area of Medellin.

I think you are right from your perspective. From my perspective, I think California is the greatest place on Earth because with seasonal changes, there are so many outdoor activities one can do. The only drag is the traffic has become unbearable. I got bored in Medellin if I am here just for vacation.

[QUOTE=GoldenGreek;2432622]Nothing guys? LOL.[/QUOTE]Here's the problem:

Some guys are complete assholes.

I'm not saying that applies to you, or most of the guys here, but it applies to some.

I can't speak for everyone, but my favorites are low volume. One of them flat out won't see anyone else. I've tried. Before I will share contact info, I always ask the girl. I tell her how well I know the guy and what he's like. Then she decides.

That's when the problems start. Some guys get insulting. Some will try to low-ball the price. One guy (fortunately not someone I referred) refused to pay. Whenever that happens all the drama gets dumped in my lap.

It works the other way too. Occasionally a girl will ask if I can send a few guys her way. Just because she always gives me top shelf service doesn't mean everyone will get it. Then somebody is pissed at me for setting up a dud.

Not sure why anyone would want to pay $200 for someone who looks like a supermodel, when you can easily find someone who looks just as good for 200 k, or even much less.

My advice to you is go to the Mansion bar. You can Google Hotel M Medellin to get the address. Pay 50 k to get in. Get the Facebook info from every girl there. Pick one and take her back to your hotel. After she leaves, start searching the friend list of each of those girls. Message the hottest ones.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2432655]I'm back in hell now, so I can spare the time to write this. In fact, I'm so fucking depressed to be back in California; I'm going to write two versions of response.

When 9/11 took place, I was a poor college freshman who frequently has to choose between buying food or marijuana (needless to say, I chose weed every time)..[/QUOTE]"Weed will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through no times of weed" by The Furry Freak Brothers a long time ago.

[QUOTE=GoldenGreek;2432622]Nothing guys? LOL.[/QUOTE]I won't say smoking hot, but pretty and serious girlfriendly experience Valentina and Katerin 81 a 34-15 Laureles. Very safe cool spot in Laureles. Short nice body girls.

Arrival: Saturday, 5:00 pm.

$295 roundtrip on Copa (shit layover in PTY for almost 8 hours, but I took an Uber to Hard Rock Hotel, and used the gym / pool for free. Changing the PTY-MDE flight ahead 4 hours was offered at a lovely $321 fee).

No additional forms, questions, procedures, etc. Upon entry.

Grabbed an Uber, the guy waited 20 minutes for me at Exito, so I could get a SIM card (40.000 COP that will easily handle my 12 days, as the girl upgraded me for some reason). I bought the driver a bottle of wine and a little pajama thing for his 8 mo old daughter (sorry, I don't have kids, please excuse my lack of terminology for baby clothes!

Checked into a fantastic bachelor pad! 1 br /1 ba, full kitchen, balcony, 2nd floor, large jacuzzi in a solarium type room off the master, they brought a big flat screen for the living room for me, secure entry but no porteros to ruin any citas, 1 block from Lleras, but quiet as the bedroom is in the back and balcony faces a side street off CL 10 A. No laundry in the unit, but they allowed me to use a washing machine & dryer in the building every Tuesday. This place was listed on ABnB for $102/ nt, but as I reserved the night before arriving, for 11 nights, I negotiated down to $70/ nt with some additional perks. Hot water, safe, big closet, plenty of hangers, alcohol / beverages on-hand for an additional expense, secured parking available, etc. Etc.

Scooter rental (moto automatico) was over 1. 000.000 for 10 days, compared to much less for 30 days in Nov / Dec. Thus, I am using Uber, which is ridiculously cheap (also could download InDriver or Didi). Electric scooters to get around short distances can be found using Grin app.

SmartFit Tesoro is still amazing; just loads of talent in the mornings, and then you can hit a restaurant or do some shopping, in the mall. It costs less than $2 each way for an Uber. If you are short-term, you can buy a month online, then register when you get to the gym. Cancel before you leave, and it's not too bad. Approx. 150.000 COP. If you are only going to workout a few times, just go to a BodyTech, bring your ID / Passport, and ask for a free trial. If you have multiple IDs, you can go to 2-3 different locations, and do the same thing. Charlee Hotel has a really cool gym that is worth doing a single workout at (expensive).

Ok, now to the meat.

I popped into Hooters on Saturday night to oogle the staff and watch UFC fights. I always sit at the bar, and they are very friendly. Sometimes when it is busy, the service can be lacking, but that's fairly consistent with all Colombian restaurants / bars. I decided to just go to Gusto's, as I didn't pre-plan anything for my first night. I didn't want a repeat, and my trip was booked the day before I left, so I didn't have time to harvest any new targets. It was busy but not the normal talent I have come to see on a weekend. A "student" "semi-pro" asked for $200 USD; she had a cute face, petit body, curly blonde hair. I said no. I've pulled out of there for free, and I like to put up a fight. It would take a stunner for me to have my first drink in my hand, and agree to pay $200 and leave. A negrita was flirting as I got stuck next to her trying to order a drink. She was thick, in a good way, with a cute face, and energetic personality. I stayed awhile, didn't see anything that blew my mind, so I went for the connection. TLN, oral natural, sex con condon, BBBJ in the morning as she waited for an Uber. I THINK it was 300 k, but it definitely wasn't more. I made her shower, prior to wrestling. It was necessary. Just an ok experience.

Sunday, I had some contacts from SA, that I was mining. One made half-ass plans for dinner, then went MIA. I've been down here enough times to know that's a possibility, so 1) I wasn't surprised, and 2) I was prepared. I sent a message at about 6 p, to gauge her response for our 8 p meeting (no money discussed). Radio silence. The next day she said she went out with family for Women's Day. Uh huh. I made plans with an 18 yo cutie from Villa Hermosa. Braces, petite, cute, sent lots of photos for me to review before committing. She said 830 p then messaged she was on her way at 730 p. A little shy at first, but warmed up when we started conversing. I speak decent enough Spanish, ok, probably better than most, unless you are fluent. It definitely helps, but I'm terrible at comprehending when they go off on a tangent. Anyhow, we had some issues with the hot water in the jacuzzi. Management came over, we got it straightened out. A transformer across the street blew and I thought it was some dipshits lighting off fireworks. I could see it straight out the balcony, and felt it in my chest. My building was unaffected. Until it wasn't. We were watching Netflix, later, and the power went out for about 2 hours. Ok, so anyway. She started asking questions about me. She asked about trying drugs. This led to her revealing she had a gram of tusi. I had never tried it. I tried it. It was nothing special, and this 90 lb girl didn't make me feel like I needed to be on-guard. To each his own, I don't need the warnings. I'm not usually that much of a donkey. So, we were listening to music, dancing, did a couple bigger key bumps, and it kicked-in. Interesting high. Definitely had a window of time when I was floating. Went in the jacuzzi, and started kissing, touching. I remove her bikini, fully-shaved, swollen clit, and she just mounts me in the jacuzzi. Sin condon. We go at it for awhile, sucking / fucking, she's leaning back, legs spread, I eventually finish on her back in doggy (shoutout to the boys who inspired my run to GNC the night before my trip to stock-up on vitamins). We continue with the tusi, and order some food from ANKA on Rappi. Turns out, Anka is just around the corner. A ton of food shows up, none of it overly impressive (chicken, steak, chorizo, cerdo, papas.), it made for a good meal for some druggies and a homeless lady with her dog, though. After dinner, while watching a movie, the power went out. We were on the couch, at this point. We start going at it, again. Her petite body was just an amazing sight, in some positions, particularly, doggy. I wasn't sure if I was going to pop again, so I brought her out onto the balcony, in the pitch black darkness, to bang her in the fresh air. I could tell she wasn't a huge fan of this, so I pulled her away from the foliage at the edge of the balcony, to a different bench off to the side. I ended up finishing in her mouth, which she promptly discarded in the bathroom.

We hung out for a bit longer, and then she said she needs to get home because she has an early morning. Reminder, this was an SA girl, just in case that got lost in the story. She asked for a propina (we had not discussed a price). Ya ya ya, it was my 2nd night, she was 18, cute, and I had a grip of pesos. Anyhow, I wanted to see her reaction, so I gave her a little Michael Kors clutch, and 50 k. It was hilarious to watch her squirm. These girls love gifts, but not as a substitute for cash, almost regardless of the sticker price. I ended up slipping 200 k into her new clutch. She only drank half a beer, all night, but she really warmed up, and there was a strong sexual connection. I might repeat. Spinner, a few tattoos, not the best BBBJ but certainly no negatives, from my perspective.

Monday, I was chatting to 2-3 SA girls. The Envigado girl that stood me up the day before wanted to meet. I was messaging with her from the gym, late-morning. She wanted to come over at 130 p. I told her I wanted to go watch a game at 3 p, and that would work. She said 250 k, I said 2 pops, oral natural. She said ok, but add 50 k for a 2nd go-around. I told her I could give her a nice regalito + 250 k. Again, straight cash homey! So, I told her, ok, that's fine, but I'm going to show her the gift, before she leaves. She messages and says she'll be over at 1 p. Perfect. I get a message she's arriving, so I go downstairs to let her in. I watch her skip thru traffic, and I am a very happy boy! She is so f'ing cute. The type of girl that in the US would be dating the starting quarterback. She's petite, brown hair, softest skin, little tattoo on her ass, and another bigger tattoo on her pelvis. She comments how nice the apartment is. We end up going right to town, rather than wait for the jacuzzi to fill. I could tell she had some fine print rules in her mind. She wasn't really DFK but not to the point where it was awkward. BBBJ wasn't anything to write home about (that's a strange metaphor to use). BUT, it sure was fun fucking her! At one point, I had her in doggy, and was loving the view, but then 2 positions later, had her on her side, I was on my knees, and maybe some one can throw out a name for this, but it was like she was in a can-opener position, and I was in the same position as doggy. Her perky little tits and ass bouncing was such a turn on. I finished in the condom, in (enter position here) - which is when they are in doggy, and I push them down flat on the bed, their legs between my knees. The jacuzzi was so hot, so we only stayed in for maybe 10 mins. We checked the clock and had about 30 mins before I wanted to leave. Round 2, fight! Started with oral natural, to get the motor going. Again, multitude of positions, this time including dripping sweat, and laser-focus. I finally threw in the towel, for a BBBJ finish. I taught her some tricks: mas mojado, boca why mano juntos. It worked! Another spitter. I gave her 250 k, and stuck another 50 k in my back pocket. I showed her the Dolce & Gabbana perfume she passed on ($99 in PTY duty free for 2 bottles of women's, and 1 bottle for myself). We had a laugh about it. As we were leaving, her to an Uber & me to a bar, she noticed it was 250 k. I turned around, she spanked me, laughed, and took the 50 k. I got out of the apartment right on time. She was 23 yo, and goes to la you. Great personality, our Round 1 was almost just an explosion during the first 3 second pause in our conversation.

I spent the rest of the afternoon / evening bouncing around between Hooters, Ay Wey, & Patrick's, eventually settling-in at Patrick's, where I chatted with the 3 servers, all night. They were really fun to talk to, as all of them were eager to learn English, and I love bullshitting in Spanish. Finished the night off with a pizza from Sicilia In Bocca (CL 10 & maybe cr 41 or so), and by falling asleep on the couch.

Tesoro was amazing, this morning. Villa Hermosa 18 yo is messaging me as I type this. That repeat might come sooner than expected.

It would appear I'm on the 1 Chick / 2 Pops diet, at least, for now. There are 1-2 other SA girls that want to meet, but I'm just not there, yet. It's too easy, maybe, and there is no negotiation or attraction tied to the negotiation that would give me a chance to break them down.

#coronavirus.

#patriot.

I spoke to a girl working at a hospital yesterday. She told me they don't have enough basic supplies, like medical face masks and sanitizer gels 😐 . She is reusing her own that should have been replaced a while ago.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2432502]The LTE coverage is amazing, I just tether through my phone, I never bothered with the local internet connection.[/QUOTE]
What speeds do you get? On what network?
I don't think I ever get more than 20 Mbps down and 10 up on Claro. I connect to a US server for tests.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2432806]Ok, now to the meat.

Tesoro was amazing, this morning. Villa Hermosa 18 yo is messaging me as I type this. That repeat might come sooner than expected.

It would appear I'm on the 1 Chick / 2 Pops diet, at least, for now. There are 1-2 other SA girls that want to meet, but I'm just not there, yet. It's too easy, maybe, and there is no negotiation or attraction tied to the negotiation that would give me a chance to break them down.
[/QUOTE]Dope report, sounds like you're having a blast and finding some real cute chica's!

[QUOTE=Junior11;2432808]What speeds do you get? On what network?
I don't think I ever get more than 20 Mbps down and 10 up on Claro.[/QUOTE]The apartment I'm at is getting 49 down and 8 up right now, just checked.

Day 14.

Didn't sleep the night before, just couldn't fall asleep for some reason. Decided to stay in and rest. Did nothing today.

Ordered bimbimbap for lunch from Eden Bistro, actually pretty good, I would order again. I got it with chicken and added kimchi. (31 k cop delivered).

Ordered Chicken Tikka Masala and Chickpea Masala and two sides of rice for dinner from Zaaika. Not the best Indian I've had but it hit the spot for what I wanted. Its definitely expensive and gives small portions, basically the complete opposite of every other meal I've had here. It is pretty good, but I'the still only order it if I am really craving Indian food because of price and portion sizes (70 k cop delivered).

Day 15 - Natalia.

I decided it's time to finally try Bunuelos. Did some quick research and found a place called Bunuelos 10 nearby that had good reviews. Uber over, got 2 of them, not impressed LOL Anyone know where to get the best Bunuelos in Poblado or El Centro?

Every morning I wake up, I now have 3-5 texts from different chicas. Unfortunately I'm still hunting for new gems but I know I could easily have one of these women at my place in an hour if I wanted. That is pretty cool. Uber delivers chicas, Rappi delivers everything else. I love this place.

Walked over to Pergamino again and get a pour over. The coffee here is amazing, I don't think I'm ever going to get over that. I remembered I've wanted to try Coca tea and to chew it as well, and read I can find it at a natural food store. I walked all around Poblado about 3 miles, and all the stores on google maps were not there anymore. Well, I got a good walk in at least. I'm going to make a quick stop in El Centro tomorrow for some shoes and I figure I'll be able to find it there. Anyone know where to find Mate de Coca / Coca tea leaves?

Head back to the airbnb, make some eggs and bacon and chill out, trying to confirm my date for tonight. She says she's not feeling well and wants to move to tomorrow. Sounds good, I try to change my Thursday date to tonight but the message hasn't gone through to her phone, so I start messaging other chicas. I have Natalia lined up for 7:30 pm but am still hoping my first choice, Aleja, texts me back and I can see her.

Aleja finally gets back to me and says she can't meet tonight and that Thursday is still good. Confirm with Natalia. I'm taking JJ's advice and I didn't mention pops or time. She just asked how much I offer and I said 150 k plus 20 k for taxi. She asks for 200 k and I respond that I always give 150 k plus 20 k and she says ok amor, send the address. She's easy to communicate with and responds quickly which I like. Some of these chicas respond to two messages, disappear for 45 minutes, come back again. It's annoying when you're trying to lock plans down.

In between talking to Aleja and Natalia, I get into a convo with Heidy. Earlier in the week she seemed totally down, tonight I ask if she's available and she's asking weird questions like "Well what are we going to do together, I want to know concretely" so I say have drinks, order food, have fun. She says "what kind of fun" I say Sex, she says "well why sex?" I'm honestly confused at this point because none of my other convos have gone like this, they know what the deal is, you know.

Her Spanish is weird and she's asking me a question but I'm not understanding what she is getting at and this is over text! Finally, I just say, if you don't do this type of work, sorry for bothering you, I misunderstood. And she keeps talking to me and I honestly don't even understand what she is trying to ask, so I just tell her, Olvidalo amor, no hay problema and stop responding. So beware, there's a weirdo chick named Heidy out there. She's super cute but weirdest conversation I've had here yet. Her Spanish makes no sense and I'm going to go ahead and assume she's not a working girl.

Natalia arrives and has a very cute face. She told me she is 5'3" but she is more like 5'6" which is my height. I really like chicks around 5'1"-5'3" but I love her smile and skin color, she's a bit darker than the typical Paisa I've been seeing.

We chat, share a drink and she takes me to the bedroom pretty early on. Good kisser, super smooth skin. She's 20 with no kids, so no baby damage. I've been tired of seeing that, it's a real turn off for me. No BBBJ, condom only, but actually thank god because there was some teeth action and I had to stop that immediately. She's tight and super warm inside. It's pretty passionate sex and she's big into kissing and having her tits sucked, not deep kissing but a lot of it in general. We move through the typical positions and I finish in doggy while she's twerking on me hard in that position. Props on the sex, it was pretty intense.

At this point she's only been here about 40 minutes, takes a shower and gets dressed to go. We didn't discuss time so that's fine plus she's not much a conversationalist. A lot of these chicas will talk and talk and ask questions, she was pretty quiet. She was out just under an hour but no real reason for her to hang out. I was thinking to tip if there was some reason to do so but I would say the session was just above average, it was better than good but nothing mind blowing that deserved a tip like some of the others I've seen.

I may keep her in the rotation as a quick, inexpensive meet up.

There is a huge thunderstorm at the moment and I'm getting hungry so while I was thinking of having another chica come over around 9:30 p-10 p, I think I'll just chill and go to bed early tonight.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2432808]What speeds do you get? On what network?
I don't think I ever get more than 20 Mbps down and 10 up on Claro. I connect to a US server for tests.[/QUOTE]Never bothered to check, both Netflix and YouTube works fine when I tethered.

If you have time, head down to Sabaneta for breakfast. Uber to Parque Sabaneta, there is a place next to the church called Restaurante El Peregrino that makes fresh buñuelos. You can get some eggs, chorizo, coffee or juice, etc. , then cruise around for a bit. If you want, you can check out Envigado on the way back. I don't know if this place is famous for good buñuelos, but that's where I ended up after researching, a few trips back.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2432868]

I decided it's time to finally try Bunuelos. Did some quick research and found a place called Bunuelos 10 nearby that had good reviews. Uber over, got 2 of them, not impressed LOL Anyone know where to get the best Bunuelos in Poblado or El Centro? [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2432868]Every morning I wake up, I now have 3-5 texts from different chicas. Unfortunately I'm still hunting for new gems but I know I could easily have one of these women at my place in an hour if I wanted. That is pretty cool. Uber delivers chicas, Rappi delivers everything else. I love this place.[/QUOTE]Nice reports! Reading your reports made me miss Medellin so much. I love Medellin for the same reason. Fuck the coronavirus, I'm planning my trip for April, I hope the currency exchange stay at a favorable rate, and people cancel their AirBnb reservations in Poblado. My favorite AirBnbs are booked all the way until August.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2432868]Some of these chicas respond to two messages, disappear for 45 minutes, come back again. It's annoying when you're trying to lock plans down.[/QUOTE]I had similar experience; I'm used to waiting for 40 minutes to reply their text. One suggestion, it seems like you are trying a different girl each day, it is an excellent approach if your time is limited in Medellin, and you can't come back often. It sounded like you have more than 2 weeks in Medellin and you can come back often. In my experience, the best time I've ever had with fb chicas are in our third or fourth date, some of the girls who were complete under performers during our first a few dates turned out to be superstars after they opened up. Once they gotten to know you, they will respond to your text faster. If you can speak Spanish, then you might be able to get them to open up on the second date.

I just returned from 9 nights in Medellin. Stayed in my usual apartment in Laureles. Good bed. A / see in the bedroom (which was important, because it was in the 80's during the day). Jacuzzi on the rooftop. Relatively safe. Quiet.

Having been visiting Medellin for 15 years now, I'm pretty settled in. I think I made it to Lleras to party twice. Didn't even get to the cine to enjoy the mixed popcorn! I was such a homebody. I would go out to get Coke and water and snacks and money and that's it. I relied on Rappi for many of my meals. I prefer Rappi to Domocilio's because it's quicker and you can track the order from preparation to delivery.

At any rate, as I've written before, I like to mix it up between non-pros, semi-pros (occasionals), and pros. And between my go-to girls and new girls. Haven't done casas in years. Almost never do strip clubs (Fase II twice and La Islan once in 15 years). And have never done street walkers. When I go to Lleras, I am going with someone. Highly unlikely I'the ever pick one up from there. One of these days I'll check out the street walkers, try a centro stirp club, and return to a casa, but right now I just don't have time and the extra leche.

Banged 9 girls a total of 15 times. One day I somehow managed to bang 4 girls total, which was surprising to me. In the old days at the Mansion, I could and often would do it. These days, at 54, I usually will do two. I tend to gravitate toward spinners. Not all of them were what I would call spinners, but all were flaca. I really like BBFS (let's avoid the debate on this) and had it with all of them but 1.and she was a new pro (to me), so I thought using a condom was best given I did not know her or trust her. I usually try to mix it up with age, but I did not see either of the older girls I have seen in the past (one of them over-slept for a 6 am Appointment on my last day). So almost all of my chicas were young. Two of them are just 18 and still in colegio. But they don't look anything like the girls I knew in high School!

I do not regret going with any of them. There is only one who I would not repeat with. She was the new pro. Nice girl. Looks good. Good body. Did her best, but you could tell she was not that into it. Other girls were great. I love to give oral sex, so that was fun. A couple of them enjoy ass play, which I like to give. Some were good kissers, which I really like. Had several in the jacuzzi, which was fun.

Of the 9 girls I was with, two were clear pros who many of you will know – Isbel Ateh and Vale Garcia. I have seen both of them many times before and I always have a good time. I also had some drinks with Enlly Florez (also known by many of you and who I have known for 4 years), but nothing else. Some guys swear by her, but she and I never had good chemistry, so I pass on the sex.

Two of the girls I banged are non-pros who I've seen before. Nice to bang someone who just wants to be with you and wants no money in return. It usually only costs me taxi and maybe some food if they are hungry. There was a third non-pro who is really cool. She came over twice and we enjoyed the jacuzzi. She does not have a bikini, so she went naked. Super nice personality and great conversation (I am not fluent in Spanish, but I can get by fine). We kissed, but did not fuck yet. But we talked about what we like sexually and she mentioned she is bi-sexual, so the idea of a pure trio was discussed. I am pretty confident I will get laid next time.

The rest of the girls (4) were what I'the call semi-pro. From what I can tell, none of them work that much, but they have worked in the past to help with bills and school. One of them did not want money from her, so she's the one I'm least certain is a semi-pro.

I did not go to any good restaurants, really. I went to Triada and to El Rojo in Lleras, Both are OK. Actually, the beef I had in Triada this time was good. Otherwise, I bought things like hamburgers (El Corral and Chef Burger), pizza (because the chicas love it), chicken, ribs, and sandwiches. Fine dining is not my objective on these trips.

Finally, for the new guys, where do I find these girls? I do not us SA (at least not since they raised the price a while back to $90/ month) or ColombianCupid. I do check Tinder when I'm there, but rarely get very far. I mostly harvest Facebook. It does take an investment of time and effort when you are looking for non-pros or trying to vet a semi-pro. I find these girls (other than the true pros) like to be treated nice. They are suckers for compliments since so many of them are extremely vain. I only compliment on something I really like (eyes, smile, body). I don't lie about it. They enjoy the attention to some extent. So my biggest problem is usually that I have many more girls I want to see than I have time. This is not for everyone, especially if you do not have a lot of time to invest on the front end. Or only care about fucking. Or want to save money or or do not visit Medellin often. For me, the hunt is a hobby. I visit Medellin once a month, so investing my time in cultivating these contacts is worth it to me.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2432409]Thanks for the info, do they accept AppleCare+? I know a few places in Poblado that do repair, but they don't accept AppleCare, I ended up paying 300 dollars to repair my screen for a phone that is under AppleCare.[/QUOTE]I don't know about apple care, but, they were able to replace my main port where I plug my computer into--the one the plug goes into on my computer. They ordered the part, 10 days later, I returned--they messaged me when it arrived. I dropped off my Mac in the morning, and picked it up at 2 pm. All good.

Cost about 150 bucks or something.

Long lines. Make an appointment-its a very busy store!

[QUOTE=GoldenGreek;2432586]What is PP and Miller?[/QUOTE]Photoprepagos and Mileroticos. Hooker Websites.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2432898] I really like BBFS (let's avoid the debate on this) and had it with all of them but 1.[/QUOTE]Awesome report. I think we all like BBFS LOL, I'm surprised that they all let you hit it raw though. Every chica I've met here has been VERY conscious of playing safe, which I actually appreciate. Do you offer extra $ or is it because you have known them for some time now?

Day 6 - Friday.

Realize this is a lot of time between my posts. Been real busy with work recently but this is from back in January.

Switching hotels again today to hotel Madiero so decided to try out another milerotic chica. Found one in the same apartment complex that was short and not at all overweight but not skinny if that makes sense. Small boobs and had braces but very cute and innocent looking. 7/10. Turns out she was actually 20 but doesn't matter to me. Service was very good (not as good as the 60 mil vennie but still very good). She did this thing where she kept licking / playing with my nipples before during and after that felt awesome. Also very into the DFK which was nice. Rode me for like 15 minutes straight without getting tired or complaining. Finished doggy. Great firm ass. Would repeat and recommend. I'm hoping to try to get her to do a threesome with me. I've heard female condoms are the way to go for these. Any advice? 8/10 session.

Finished the session. Grabbed lunch nearby and went to switch to hotel madiero in Parque lleras. Hotel was is pretty fancy and includes a gym, pool and public jaquzzi although I doubt I'll use any of the amenities. No windows in the rooms which is kinda weird cause you have no idea what time it is when you wake up until you check your phone.

Scheduled a session with a Facebook girl Marianna Pallicios or something who was recommended to me for 6 pm. 150 k + taxi for 2-3 hours, 2 shots. At 6 pm she tells me she is on the way. No problem I'm use to Columbian girls being a little late. 6:30 and I text her, she tells me there is traffic and she'll be another 15 minutes. Ok fine, I keep wait, she sends me a picture of traffic at 6:50. (Who knows when this was taken or where). It's 7 pm now and I'm getting annoyed cause I've just been waiting for her for an hour. She texts me she's so sorry, she'll be here in 10 minutes. The traffic is bad. I think fine, I've heard her service is amazing so I'll wait a little longer. 7:30 rolls around and I'm finally pissed but at this point I've waited an hour and a half for her so I keep waiting. She finally gets to my place at 7:50 pm. Turns out there is a chica fee of 80 mil at my hotel. Apparently chica friendly means that they accept them but you have to pay a fee. Anyways, Tall and super skinny, starting to get into too skinny territory but still solid body. Face is a little manly but I'the say a 7 overall. She takes a shower quick and we get into it. She wouldn't let me kiss her but she had the sniffles so I thought maybe it was because she was sick so I didn't pursue it further. Sucks on my dick for a minute just to get it hard and starts riding me. A couple minutes into it, I notice this thick white ooze dripping out of her vagina. I pull out and the condom is covered in what looks like cum that's crusted over and spoiled. I immediately go to pull off the condom and wash my dick. She washed out her pussy and She says that it was because she is allergic to that type of condom and asked if I had a different one. Luckily (or unluckily) a forum member I met up with on my first day gave me one of his condoms cause we were sure if the strip club provided them. I slap it on and surprisingly, she was telling the truth and it doesn't cause her to secret that gross white ooze anymore. (After googling it and talking to people, sounds like it was either an yeast infection or a bad reaction of her cum to the type of lubricant on the condom). Anyways we fuck in the standard positions for another 15-20 minutes and I pop off for the first time. She goes in the bathroom and showers. While she's in there she texts me asking if I wanted to buy a gram of tussi from her. I tell her I've never done it before and asked if I could try it cause I heard fucking on it was awesome so I'the definitely give it a shot for round 2 if it was going to make the sex better. She pulls out a bag that has maybe 0. 2-0. 3 g in it and gives me 3 little key bumps. (At this point I realize the sniffles are obviously from snorting tussi and not a cold LOL). But wow my first time doing tussi and it hits almost immediately. And what a feeling it was, I can't tell if it was a good feel or a bad feeling. Felt kinda dizzy but also happy but very very much so not sober anymore. As I'm going through this rollercoaster, she gets dressed and gets ready to leave. She asks me to pay her and I told her we agreed to 2-3 hours and sex twice. She says sorry but her grandmother has an emergency and she needs to go. I told her that if she was only going to stay for 30-45 minutes, I'the only give her 80 mil + taxi. She says I need to pay her the 150 mil and that she promises she will come back after (obviously would never come back LOL). I tell her her 2 options are either I give her 80 (which at this point I'm hoping is what happens cause the whole arguing and bad service turned me off) or she could stay for the 2-3 hours we agreed to. We must've argued for like 15 (no idea about actual time cause of the tussi) minutes before she does the craziest thing. Instead of taking the 80 mil + taxi, she just takes 20 mil for taxi and leaves. She starts texting me saying that if I don't pay her, she'll call the police and cause problems. And I told her I offered you 80 mil and I have a text from you offering to sell me tussi from literally 5 minutes ago and she says if you tell the cops I tried to sell you tussi, I'll tell the cops you raped me. And I was like wdf so I just blocked her and that was the end of her (I really hope she was lying about her grandmother and that I wasn't in the wrong here). 100 mil overall including hotel fee. 2/10 session. My guess is she use to be a really good provider but has gone off the deep end with drug use. My guess is that she got to me late because she was double / triple booking and just trying to do this to as many customers as possible. And I'm guessing she had to leave because she was already super late to another appointment she had made.

I laid in bed for a while talking about / figuring out what just happened. At this point, I'm still pretty fucked up off the tussi but also still want to try fucking on it. Despite all the negative reviews, I really wanted to have a gusto experience since I've heard the hottest chicas are there. Kinda a pussy move coming up next but I didn't feel like I could handle the public, let alone a club scene and fase dos also felt a little much. I decide instead to go with my trusty vennie since I know her service is good and she's going to make me feel comfortable while I'm all fucked up. So I head over to her apartment in Laureles and she is ecstatic to see me (probably because I've been tipping her but my ego makes me think she's actually starting to like me). We start by making out for a while, then she gives me a BBBJ for what felt like 20 minutes. At this point I realize what tussi is doing to my dick. My dick feels number except for the head which felt tingly. It definitely made my dick more numb but unsure if it was causing the tingles or her BBBJ. Then she hops on for cowgirl and just grinds away to the music. We were in this position for at least 15 minutes with her just doing all the work grinding front, back, up, down and even left and right while making out with me and kissing my neck. I can't feel a thing We switch to doggy and I pound her out for another 20-30 minutes. She might be a little chubby but she had a fat ass. Still nothing. Missionary. Nothing. Reverse cowgirl. Still nothing. Goes back to cowgirl. Still nothing. She rips off the condom and starts giving me a BBBJ again and tells me to leche in her mouth. 10 minutes go by and still nothing. At this point, I'm starting to feel bad for her. (Well that probably started like 30 minutes ago LOL). So I pull her up and tell her to play with my nipples and make out with me while I jerk off. Finally after another 5-10 minutes of this, I feel it coming and I come all over her breasts. We lay there for a little exhausted and then she showers me. I give her 100 mil and leave. I check my phone and I had been in there for 2 hours. Holy shit tussi is something else. 9/10 session. Wish the girl was better looking and I wish my dick wasn't as numb but wow it made me last forever. I uber back to my hotel, grab a burger for late night and go to bed. Probably won't do tussi again (wasn't for me) but not completely shutting it out.

TLDR: Vennies seem to give better service. Avoid Mariana Pallicios. Tussi is a hell of a drug.

Day 7 - Saturday.

Had a session scheduled with Lisdey Santilla or something for 11 am. Side story, I messaged the customer service for the hotel on WhatsApp asking about the chica fee and that I was told there wasn't one. They told me that it was 60 k and I was like wdf, the guy charged me 80 k last night. So they were like we're so sorry, he's new and doesn't know, we're sending a new front desk guy and we'll give you 20 k off the next girl you bring. Same front desk guy for the rest of my stay so I'm guessing it's just him trying to pocket an extra 20 mil and the hotel is okay with it. 200 k + taxi for 2-3 hours, 2 shots, my standard. She confirmed with me early and only ended up showing up 30 minutes late. Pretty good for a fb girl. Skinny, petite, small firm tits, nice ass, looks very similar to her profile picture. We dance a little bit and her ass grinding on me gets me hard so we get to it. BBBJ but only for a minute before she puts on the condom and we start to fuck. Light kissing and moaning, pretty solid in bed actually. A couple positions and 25 minutes later I cum and we shower together. This is where things turn south. You might start seeing a pattern but she gets dressed and says she has to leave cause her dog is at the vet waiting for her. I told her we had a deal, she shouldn't have agreed to it if she knew she was going to need to get her dog. She says it was an emergency and her sister brought the dog in cause she was vomiting and couldn't. And now the dog is there alone cause her sister had to go to work. I tell her the dog can hang out at the vet for another hour and she says no she has to go now. I tell her that I will give her 150 k if she wants to leave but I'm not giving her 200 + taxi (apparently taxi is 40 mil cause she lives far away?) unless she stays like we agreed. She argues with me for like 20 minutes and I'm thinking fuck not again. We keep arguing and I tell her I'm not budging, I gave her her options. She grabs my laptop and says she's going to steal my laptop if I don't pay her. I get angry and take my laptop from her and then kick her out of my hotel room. She goes downstairs and complains to the front desk guy. He comes up and tells me that she's going to call the police if I don't pay her. I explain to him what happened and he says it's not worth it because the police with charge me a prostitution fee and get me in trouble. I tell him that prostitution is legal in Columbia and show him on google. He tells me that it is legal for Columbians but foreigners signed something when they came into the country saying we won't hire any prostitutes. And that it's promoting prostitution and a "pimping" fee or something. I tell him I'the rather pay the cops for the fee than pay this girl cause I'm still mad fb failed me again and she tried to steal my laptop. He then tells me that the cops would put something on my passport / immigration saying I participated in prostitution and make it harder for me to travel in the future which had me worried. (Is this true? Or was he just making this up because it would be a huge hassle and probably a fine for the hotel if the cops got involved? So I tell the desk clerk, she only stayed for 30 minutes when we agreed to 2-3 hours. I offered her 150 k and if she doesn't want to take it, we can let the police handle it. He says okay she'll take the 150 k so I give it to him and wash my hands if this. Actually fucking was probably a 7/10. The rest made it a 2/10 session. I don't know why I always seem to have this problem with the fb girls but at this point I'm realizing it's probably just not going to happen for me on FB. Maybe it's cause I don't know Spanish or maybe it's because I'm not as assertive that they think they can take advantage of me.

So now that I'm done with fb girls, I decide to go check out a massage parlor in poblado. 160 k for the hour, lineup of 5-7 girls. I see a hot blonde light skinned girl (8) and a tanned red headed Columbian (7). I decide to go with the 7 since I've heard her service is good. A little bit of baby fat, a little old and has a short haircut. But I could tell that she could easily have been a 9 when she was 5 years younger and 10 pounds lighter. She takes me to a small room which just barely fits a mattress on the floor but the good thing is there was AC. Starts off with a quick 5 minute massage, then we start making out, BBBJ for another 5 minutes before we start fucking. Super into the sex, crazy good service, on par with the vennie from earlier. After I nut, I ask her to massage my legs because they are exhausted and I'm planning on climb guatape the next day. Gives me a solid massage, flips me over and starts sucking me off again. She gets me hard easily with her many years of experience sucking and jerking it simultaneously. Then she jumps on me and starts riding me CG while I suck on her tits, rcg while I smack her fat ass, and finished in doggy. I pretty much always finish in the condom. Does anyone rip the condom off and finish onto the girls ass, tits, face? Do you have to tell them you're going to do that or do you just surprise them? And how long before you're going to cum do you pull out and start jerking it if you do? Then we just laid there for a couple minutes cuddling and kissing making out until there's a knock on the door letting us know the hour was up. The only negative thing about the massage parlor was they didn't have a shower to wash off in. 9/10 session. (10/10 service, 7/10 looks) Amazing, made up for Lisdey. Tipped her 10 mil since I didn't have any other small bills. 170 for the hour.

Then I grab a quick lunch at franchyes (10 mil menu del DIA) and go back to my room to chill for a bit. About 3 hours later, I start thinking about the other blonde girl that was at the parlor. However, I've already nutted 3 times that day and I still wanted to check out gustos while it was still the weekend. 10 minutes of back and forth and I'm walking back towards the massage parlor. Get there and the mama San laughs saying I must've really liked the girls. I tell her yes it was amazing but I'the like to try the blonde girl. Mama San gets the blonde girl and she's just as hot as I remembered. An 8, pale skin, skinny, nice tits nice ass awesome, I can't wait to fuck her. She takes me back into the same room I was in, (seems like there's only 2 rooms for customers at this place) and I notice that they definitely didn't change the sheets or clean it up much. Kinda gross with how much I know me and the girl was sweating during our last session but at least it was (hopefully) me that was here last. Anyways, I get naked and she starts massaging me. Clearly not very good at massaging or maybe just a lack of effort but it's more like a light back rub than a massage. Turns me over quickly, I'm hard already because she's definitely my type. She sees this so she skips the BJ and just slaps on the condom and starts riding me. I try to kiss her but she turns her head away. This girl also had the sniffles so not sure if it was cause she had a cold. Wanted to kiss her anyways but she tells me no. Doesn't ride me long before she asks to switch positions. At this point, I can tell this session is going to suck. Put her in mish and fuck her till I'm tired. Then flipped her over and doggy for like 20 more minutes before I finally come. At this point, I don't even want the second shot so I ask her to just massage me. 2 minutes in, she says she has to use the bathroom. Comes back and sits down. I ask her to massage me and she does for another minute. Then asks if I want water so I'm like sure. Goes and gets water, comes back. I ask her to massage my legs so she turns me over and basically touches my leg with her hands but stops every 30 seconds to check her phone. Then she stops the session and says times up (my last session ended cause the mamasan knocked to let us know) but I'm like whatever this girl sucks anyways. Then I get dressed and she asks me for a tip. I laugh and tell her no, I only tip people who perform well. But now that I have more change in my wallet, I called my last girl back out and gave her the 20 mill I was going to give the blonde if she was good. Definitely going to repeat the first massage girl. 5/10 session (8/10 looks, 3/10 service). At this point, I decide I'm too exhausted to fuck again so I decide to bail on gustos. Went to the mall and got dinner and then called it an early night watching basketball. First night I didn't order late night food! Although I fell asleep eating my dinner in bed.

TLDR: Sex with Lisdey was actually good but then she tried to leave and cause a ton of drama ruining the session. I'the recommend to just do 1 shot and done with her if you are planning to. Massage girl in poblado made it much better, one of my best sessions of the trip. Second hotter massage girl was terrible. Lesson learned, too many hot girls just don't try.

Day 8 - Sunday.

Went on the Guatape day tour. Picked up at my hotel at 7:30. Standard tour, only thing I'the recommend that you might not do is when you're actually in guatape, there's an area that will rent out horses that you can ride around town while you're exploring. It was like 6 mill for 15 min and 30 mil for an hour so super cheap and a good way to get around town and while trying out horseback riding. Also, if you're going, I'the recommend going on a week day Cause it can get super packed on weekends.

Got back to my hotel at 6 pm and decided I wanted to fuck even though Sunday was going to be my off day. I decide to try out chicapaisas since they are the only massage / casa that is opened still at 6 pm on a Sunday. However, the mamasan / their policy is so hard to deal with. They won't send you the location of the place until you make an appointment and you have to make an appointment based solely off pictures of the girls with their face blurred out and there's a 10 mil fee to change girls if you decide you don't like the girl. I argue with the mamasan for a bit saying I want a lineup and that I'm just going to leave if the girl doesn't look like her pictures and it's save us both time to just let me do a lineup. Mamasan doesn't budge (I later find out that they might not do a lineup because depending on which girl you make an appointment with, mamasan will send you to a different address). I convince Mamasan to at least send me a face shot that's not blurred out even though I know the girls going to be photoshopped and not as hot. Anyways, I'm horny after seeing pictures of the girls and I want action so I say fuck it and make an appointment with Flor. A gorgeous blonde that would be a 9. 5-10/10 for me based off the pictures. Straight up model like photo. She sends me the address in Laureles and I uber over. Flor opens the door for me and obviously not as hot as the girl in the pictures but still at least an 8/10, easily more if she wore makeup. Amazing body standing up, but maybe 5 pounds of baby fat that you can see if she bends over or sits. Wavy long blonde hair, sort of tall, see cup boobs (starting to sag a tiny bit) 25 years old. From a small town outside of Medellin. Only knock I had on her was that she had a small pimple / mole / bump on her forehead that could be covered up with makeup. She asks if she is okay and I ecstatically say yes she's beautiful. This massage place is enormous but also completely empty besides Flor and from what I can hear, the other girls hiding in a room. She takes me to her room and starts off with a quick massage (actually solid massage skills. Very accommodating when I asked her to massage my legs cause I just climbed guatape. She does legs and I tell her I want to do back later and turn over. She starts sucking me off BBBJ as soon as I roll over and holy shit it was good. Her BJ skills weren't actually as good as the massage girl I had yesterday but she looked so fucking hot bent over my dick with her hair flipped over her face bobbing up and down. Gave me perfect position to play with her breasts and ass. She keeps sucking until I stop her and tell her I need to fuck her now. She grabs the condom and tried to put it on but somehow doesn't seem to know how to put it on? I noticed some girls in Medellin will stretch the condom out and then roll down the inside rather than just putting it on and rolling it down on the outside (weird but ok). She instead just stretches it out and starts pulling it down instead of rolling and it hurt like fuck. I had to stop her and put the condom on myself. The pain made me go soft a little bit so she started sucking me off with the condom on. Then we start fucking, and wow she is amazing. Will ride you indefinitely until you want to switch positions and will make out with you and suck on your ear while she's riding you. She does this for like 10 minutes and I decide to switch to doggy. Within 5 minutes of ducking her from behind, I nut cause she's so hot. We lay there for a minute and then she asks if I want more massage. She starts massaging my back and I tell her to focus on my legs so she does. Actually gives a good massage for Medellin. She flips me over and starts massaging my feet and then my thighs. Seeing her like this gets me hard again and she takes the hint and starts sucking. This time I let her suck me off for longer since I know I'm going to last longer this time. After a long BBBJ, she hands me the condom to put on myself LOL. I slap it on and she hops on and grinds every which way to the music. She real good at staying in rhythm and I think really enjoys the sex. Then we switch to mish and I pound away. Most girls will just lay there when you're fucking them missionary but she would thrust her pelvis upwards to fuck my dick. At one point, we were just using the mattress as a spring and bouncing off it in rhythm. Even though my dick wasn't really moving in / out during this, it felt amazing because during the bounce, she would tighten her pussy and squeeze the head of my dick which felt amazing. Finally, we switch to rcg and wow she can shake her as. She started twerking on my dick and it didn't take long for me to blow my load in this position. We laid there making out for a little and then she asked me if I wanted more massaging (holy shit I can't believe the service) I tell her sure I wouldn't mind another leg massage. Finally the hour is up, and she showers me off. All the girls at chicapaisas are 120 k but apparently Flor is 140 k but she gave me a discount to 130 k since it was Sunday (settled with mamasan at the start, not upsold). Tipped her an extra 20 for the amazing service. 10/10 session. Not sure if her service was better or the first massage girl I had but she was definitely hotter. Not as hot as her WhatsApp picture but still one of the hotter girls I has while I was in Medellin. After we get dressed, I tell her that I would like to come back here again but I wanted to see the other girls while I'm here. She tells me one second and goes out to get the girls to make a lineup (turns out the girls working are way more accommodating than mamasan). Mamasan was also not at the massage parlor so I think she just handles them through text or maybe I was at the smaller of their locations? Not surprisingly, the rest of the girls also looked less attractive than their pictures. None of them were anywhere close to as hot as Flor though. They leave and I tell Flor were alright but she's my favorite.

Then I leave to go to dinner. I decide to check out in Situ a restaurant located inside the botanical garden. I uber there only to find out it's closed on sundays so I sadly uber to la causa. It's a sushi and steakhouse. Finished dinner and was about to order my Uber home when I decide fuck it, I'm going to check out fase dos. I knew I only had 1 day left (Monday) so I wanted to maximize the time. I get to fase dos at 10:15 and it's pretty dead. Not many guys or girls there and nobody's dancing yet. I order a drink and chill for a while. At 10:45, the girls and other people start showing up. I'm looking for the 9's I saw the other night hoping that I'll have a chance with her. I don't see her but I see another girl that is super my type. Super cute looking, looks super young, short, petite, big fake tits, nice nice butt, medium long black hair, great face, perfect body, no unwanted fat anywhere. We make eye contact a couple times so I call her over to talk to me. We talk a little and she asks me to buy her a drink, 22 mill corona. Oh well, she drinks it while we hang out and talk. She's rubbing my dick with one hand and we sit there drinking and talking while we watch the strippers start to dance. I asked her how old she was and I think she said 22 and I was like wow you look younger than that. We keep talking and at one point, she mentions her 16 year old son and I was like WDF, is that even possible. And I ask her and she goes I'm 32. I guess I misunderstood her which doesn't surprise me (my Spanish sucks) but her being 32 shocked me. How could she be that hot still at age 32? We finish our drinks and head towards the room. I'm already hard and we haven't even left the club yet. We get to the room and the speaker wasn't working so I played music on my phone. We danced for a bit and she was grinding her ass on my hard dick. We make out for a while and her makeup gets all over my lips. She points and laughs and I laugh and go wash it off. Then she undress me. And gives me a BBBJ. And if I didn't believe her being 32 before, I did now. She had the skills you only acquire with years and years of prostitution experience. Amazing. She puts on the condom and we fuck. I decide to start in mish so I have more control and don't come too quickly. I start off slowly and she's super into it, moving her hips with mine. Moans into my ears as I'm going. After a while, I feel like I got a handle on myself and I start pounding harder and she cums. Wow that felt great. Switched her to doggy and started pounding away (doggy fires me out the least, not sure why). But her ass looks amazing and she kept doing this thing where she looks back and makes eye contact and squeezes my duck with her pussy. Wow I can tell I'm not going to last long like this so we switch to cowgirl. She is amazing in bed, she rides and rides and never gets tired (perks of being a tiny girl). And she knows how to position her arms while she's riding you so that they aren't in the way of you playing with her amazing tits. Still soft despite being fake and her nipples were very hard. Eventually I can tell I'm close and I grab her ass and start lifting her up and down and we cum together (maybe she's just really good at faking but it was believable enough to me). Wow another 10/10 session. 9/10 looks, 10/10 service. Was my favorite session in Medellin. She gave me her number Incase I wanted to repeat and you can bet I wanted to.

After we clean up (definitely ran over 45 min) we walked back into the club. As soon as we get in, I see the 9 from the other night that I wanted but she's talking to a guy. I get another drink and chill for a little waiting for her. She eventually leaves him but disappears into the changing room to get ready to dance. I watch her dance and damn her body is nice. I want her. I realize I don't have enough cash left on me so I decide to go outside and look for an ATM since there doesn't seem to be one in fase dos. That's where this night takes a turn. I get outside and there's another Asian kid smoking a cig. He sees me and goes, I know you from somewhere. Great, either someone is confusing me for another Asian of I'm running into someone I actually know and might blow my cover. Turns out we went to college together and met one time at a party freshmen year. Crazy how small of a world it was. He says he's been living in Medellin for a bit and invites me to drink at his table with his friends. We drink for a while and he asks me if I want to do some tussi. Eh fuck it why not, I suck at saying no to stuff so we do it in the bathroom. Holy shit, the second time was just as strong as the first. The feeling was awesome mixing with the music and lights at fase dos. Plus, I remember how long I lasted the last time I took it. We keep drinking and I decide that I'm just going to pay the 9 with my credit card. Unfortunately, she ends up going with the first guy she was talking to. So we keep drinking and doing more tuss. And time just fly's and I'm zonked out. Eventually the strip club closes so he recommends we check out the 7. Apparently, after all the clubs / bars shut down at 2 am, all the prostitutes get bused to this after hours club called the 7. We uber over and it's unfortunately closed but at this point, I think I've overdone it on the tuss and there's no way my dick is going to work. Luckily there's a late night disco right next door to 7 so we go there. 30 k cover 240 k for a bottle and mixers and we party. Unfortunately didn't pull any more girls this night but by the time I sobered up enough to check my phone, it turned out to be 5 am. Wow tussi is crazy.

TLDR: Today was a good day. Had 2 of my favorite sessions ever but wish I got to try the 3rd girl at fase dos. Tussi is crazy and I can see how a lot of hoes get addicted to it and go crazy.

Day 9 - Monday.

Went to bed the previous night at 5:30 am. Woke up at 8:30 am and couldn't fall asleep again. Damnit tussi. But I surprisingly didn't feel like shit. Not sure how I wasn't hungover from the alcohol, let alone the bumps of tussi and the lack of sleep but I'm not going to complain about it. Today's my last full day in Medellin so I'm hoping it's a good day. I was planning on checking out the massage parlors so I fired off a bunch of texts checking who was open. Chicapaisas texted me back first but unfortunately I had to deal with the mamasan again. One good thing about them is that they have a 100 mil promotion on mondays (20 mil off). I tell her I want to see Flor or Paulina and we go through the whole thing again. For some reason though, she doesn't seem to remember me despite the conversation history I have. I wonder if they switch mamasan a lot or if their chat history gets cleared pretty often. But we argue about it for a little but I'm thinking I already have the address, I'll just show up and I'm guessing they won't turn away my money. So while the mamasan is tellling me to choose one, I uber over to the address and knock on the door. Flor greats me and looks great as always. She brings me upstairs and just assumes I'm there to see her. I don't know how to tell her I want to see Paulina without hurting her feelings / making it awkward. Then I have this great idea, I tell her I'm thinking of having a threesome with her and I Paulina but I wanted to see what Paulina looked like first. And she tells me Paulina is at a different casa but she can grab one of the other girls. So I give up on that hope and tell her it's okay, I am more than happy with just her. So we get down to business. A lot of the same as the previous session so I won't go into detail too much. I think the tussi after effects made me last longer cause the first shot took like 40 minutes. We lay there cuddling and making out for a while and I realize I'm definitely not going to get a second but off. She asks me if I want a massage but she's been so nice to me that I offer to massage her instead. I've only given out a massage twice before and have never had any training with massaging. But I have gotten a bunch of massages so I like to think I learned it from that. But I think what I mostly learned is that no matter how you're trying to massage someone, it's going to feel good if you're using oil. So I just randomly rub her down, focusing a lot on her butt, boobs and thigh and she loves it. She's gives off soft moans as I massage her and played with her clit. It honestly reminded me of one of those massage porn videos. One of my big regrets is not having had the time to actually play it out that way though. Next time for sure. Anyways, I finish giving her a massage and we shower. Went over the hour but she wasn't going to complain with me spending the last 20 minutes massaging her. 10/10 session. Definitely one of my favorite girls. Just so sweet and I love the long wavy blonde hair. 100 k + 20 mil tip.

I leave and I'm starting to get hungry but eating too much kinda kills my sex drive. I see an old man running a fruit cart so I think perfect, I'll get some mango slices. Pay the man 3 mil and I swear, he gives me more than an entire mango. Ate like 5 slices (like 1/8th of the bag) and then gave the rest to a homeless person. Since energy is a 5 minute walk from the other massage place, I decide to check it out while I'm there. I walk over and the mamasan sits me down and tells me she getting the girls ready for a lineup. I heard that the quality is a lot better on the weekends but even on a Monday, there must've been 25-30 girls. They each come out individually and do a little spin for you and then tell you their name and number. I'the recommend just writing down their number on your phone cause I definitely ended up forgetting a couple I wanted. After all the girls introduce themselves, mama asks who I want. I tell her there's 4 girls I want to see again and she brings them out. I must've gotten one of the numbers wrong because the girl I wanted to see wasn't there. However the other 3 she brought back out were still smokes. 8's and 9's. I pick a shorter darker girl that's tiny, skinny and has huge fake tits and a nice ass (see a pattern in what I like?) and has brownish orange hair that's super curly. Her name was Kelly, number 15 and she was super fucking hot. She takes me up to the room and starts massaging me. Good massage, strong for such a tiny girl. Then she flips me over, blowjob with condom. Still really good despite the condom. We start fucking and she does the classic look away from you that a lot of hookers do. Dang. I try to kiss her and she tells me no, she doesn't do that. Sigh. At least she was super tight. So we get through CG and mish and rcg. She moaned a bunch at the started but I sense that it was fake since it stopped after she realize it was going to take me a while to cum. Finally I flip her over and just pound her ass doggy. Her ass was amazing and the sight with her curly hair was amazing. Also, she was the perfect amount to shortness that I could easily reach / grab her tits while fucking her from behind and keeping rhythm which is really hard with taller girls. After I come, she starts massaging me again (my legs like I told her) for the rest of the session (another 5-10 min). 7/10 session. 9/10 looks, 6/10 service. I'the say her service was about as good as it could've gotten with a girl who was clearly not into the sex and was just trying to get it over with. She asked for a tip at the end and I gave her 10 mil since at least she agreed to massage me the remainder of the time despite being not into the sex at all.

I go to the botanical garden this time to eat lunch and it's actually open. Got the pacific fish fillet. Was real tasty. Then went back to my hotel and take a nap since I only had 3 hours of sleep the night before and I was planning on meeting up with the guys from the night before and checking out la isla. Wake up around 9 and eat dinner and I get to la isla at 11. Immediately I notice 2 gorgeous girls sitting outside. One is a blonde with a stunning body and long wavy blonde hair and big boobs. A 10. I know right then and there that I'm going to want to try her out. I head inside the club, buy a half bottle of brandy (next time get rum, it goes down so much easier) and grab a table while I wait for my friends. They showed up like 30 minutes later. Of course though, within 10 minutes of walking into the club, there's a guy talking to the hot blonde and she leaves with him. Sigh I missed my chance. Anyways, it's a Monday night but la isla still has like 25-40 girls. There was one group of guys who were celebrating MLK day hard. Actually making it rain on the strippers, throwing stacks of 2 mil bills onto the stage at a time. This made basically all the strippers gather around them. We drink and chit chat, and my friend offers me tuss. Ugh I really shouldn't but I'm just so bad with peer pressure so I say fuck it why not. You must build up a tolerance really fast though cause this time I barely felt it. We keep drinking and talking for a while watching the strippers dance. I do another bump of tuss and now I'm feeling it. A hot brunette walks by that I thought was one of the super hot girls I saw dancing earlier so I start talking to her. A little taller, long wavy brown hair, big fake tits and a super ass. She says all the right things, touches me in all the right places and smiles and stares into my eyes. It's past midnight at this point so I realize I need to pick a girl soon instead of hoping that blonde comes back out. I ask if she'll kiss me and she says only in the back room. So I say okay let's do this. Pay the bar 300 k and we go to the back room. I try to dance with her but as soon as we get to the room, she's stand-off ish and I can immediately tell it's going to suck. But what can I do at this point, I've already paid and took her to the room. I go to try to kiss her and she says no, it'll cost 50 mil more for that. I can tell that the 50 mil is going to buy me one small peck so I tell her no. We start fucking but the tuss is also making my dick soft every time I pull out to switch positions. After a bit of fucking, she gets annoyed and tries to just jerk me off. I ask if she can at least do a BJ and she says no, the condom is dirty now because it's been in her pussy and she doesn't have another one. God she is the worst. What a waste of 300 k. She asks me for a tip and I laugh and tell her she was terrible and leave. 3/10 session. 8. 5/10 looks. 2/10 service. Loses a point too cause I couldn't maintain my erection (it's mostly the tussis fault but the girl didn't help). Of course, I see the super hot blonde when I get out. She was so hot that even this horrible experience didn't deter me from wanting to try her out. Unfortunately what did stop me was that I was already going soft multiple times during my first session that night that I knew it was going to be super hard to stay hard. But maybe I should've tried, she was crazy hot. Sigh, now I'll never know. We drink there until 2 am when the club closes and all the girls go to the 7. We consider going but at this point, I know I'm not going to fuck so we decide instead to just get late night food and call it a night.

TLDR: Flor was even better the second time than the first time. Energy had some hot girls but the one I picked wasn't great in terms of service. I always think about complaining to the mamasan but I never do just cause I don't see what purpose it serves since I definitely won't be getting a refund LOL. La isla has the hottest girls in medellin, straight 10's even on a Monday. Unfortunately, hot girls seem to provide terrible service a lot. Bad session but would definitely still go back to try a different girl next time because of the hotties.

Day 10- Tuesday.

Woke up at 8:30 today and was hoping to be able to get 2 final nuts in. I told my 60 mil vennie that I would see her again before I left and she usually wakes up early so I decided to head over around 10. Greeted me at the door in a red dress and took me to her room. This girl loves to kiss so we're making out for the majority of the session while we're fucking. Gave me a great BBBJ to start off while I fingered her. Soaking wet and moaning on my dick made it feel even better. After 10 minutes, she starts teasing me by grinding on my dick. I half consider just sticking it in raw but my big brain prevailed and I resisted until she put a condom on. We start in CG since she loves being on top and kissing my while she shakes her ass on my dick. Then we switch to mish where were fucking so hard the bed actually moves away from the wall. We switch to doggy and I keep pounding away. Then we switched back to CG before I finally nut. Great girl. 8/10 session. 6/10 looks, 10/10 service. We shower, I give her 70 mil and get ready to meet up with the first massage girl. Unfortunately, by the time I got back to my hotel, I barely had time to eat lunch and then head to the airport to catch my plane. Overall a great trip. Not as good as Thailand but it's much closer easier to make happen. Would definitely go back again but really hoping to have a wingman to go with next trip. Until next time medellin.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2432996]
Scheduled a session with a Facebook girl Marianna Pallicios or something who was recommended to me for 6 pm. [/QUOTE]Good timing bro! I was talking to her yesterday. Just saved me from wasting my time and money, thank you! Guys, don't be shy to post the bad reviews and save us all the trouble, appreciate you all!

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2432998]

Had a session scheduled with Lisdey Santilla or something for 11 am. [/QUOTE]This is hilarious. I was also talking with Lisdey about seeing her Friday LOL Awesome reports man, this is super useful info.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2433000]Day 9 - Monday.

Went to bed the previous night at 5:30 am. Woke up at 8:30 am and couldn't fall asleep again. Damnit tussi. But I surprisingly didn't feel like shit. Not sure how I wasn't hungover from the alcohol, let alone the bumps of tussi and the lack of sleep but I'm not going to complain about it. Today's my last full day in Medellin so I'm hoping it's a good day. I was planning on checking out the massage parlors so I fired off a bunch of texts checking who was open. Chicapaisas texted me back first but unfortunately I had to deal with the mamasan again. One good thing about them is that they have a 100 mil promotion on mondays (20 mil off). I tell her I want to see Flor or Paulina and we go through the whole thing again. For some reason though, she doesn't seem to remember me despite the conversation history I have. I wonder if they switch mamasan a lot or if their chat history gets cleared pretty often. But we argue about it for a little but I'm thinking I already have the address, I'll just show up and I'm guessing they won't turn away my money. So while the mamasan is tellling me to choose one, I uber over to the address and knock on the door. Flor greats me and looks great as always. She brings me upstairs and just assumes I'm there to see her. I don't know how to tell her I want to see Paulina without hurting her feelings / making it awkward. Then I have this great idea, I tell her I'm thinking of having a threesome with her and I Paulina but I wanted to see what Paulina looked like first. And she tells me Paulina is at a different casa but she can grab one of the other girls. So I give up on that hope and tell her it's okay, I am more than happy with just her..[/QUOTE]I went into the casa and narrowed my choice of girls to two. Then finally chose a winner. We went to the room and I can feel the girl energy and interest was low, very lacking in affection, even when she got naked, I still felt she was not going to perform up to expectations. Now I had been to this place twice without incident. So my credibility was good. Instead of sticking my dick in, I told the girl get dress we are going to talk to the boss. As we went upstairs to the main room she ask to go in first without me to lend her point of view. The boss comes out says what's the problem. I noted I been there twice without issues, this girl was not trying to do anything. He said get to the point what is it you want. I said I want a new girl. He brought me to the room and had the girls line up again to select a new choice which turned to 10 rating in service. My point is if you feel bad vibes. It will most likely be bad. Turn back around talk to boss for new selection. As long as your spending that money with them they will not be mad with you. That girl might be but who cares about her ass LOL.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2432999]Day 8 - Sunday.

Got back to my hotel at 6 pm and decided I wanted to fuck even though Sunday was going to be my off day. I decide to try out chicapaisas since they are the only massage / casa that is opened still at 6 pm on a Sunday. However, the mamasan / their policy is so hard to deal with. [/QUOTE]Thank you for your detailed reports. I'm a few days from heading to Medellin for the first time and they have provided a lot of useful info.

Do you think your experience with the FB girls was impacted from being Asian (I'm assuming based on your name) and them thinking you were an easy target?

Could you please provide some more details of this chicapaisas massage place? I tried searching the forum and google and came up blank.

Medellin day 1.

Landed at noon, made plans with Laura to pick me up, and took her to hotel Ibiza (thanks jbee for that knowledge in that 2018 post). She was nice, a good girl as people have mentioned. Had a solid session with her which was a win win since I had time to kill between landing and the airbnb check in. Touched base with Facebook girls; Dane didn't confirm, estefania called an audible in terms of what was agreed to, and mariana confirmed. I panic amidst the two I had lined up for 4 and 6 flaking and start going after others. The ones I actually want who answer all push for Tuesday. OK well I guess I have an agenda for then at least.

Check into airbnb at energy Living (don't judge me board, I just wanted a place where I wouldn't have to leave, even though it didn't work out that way) and Dane says she's on her period, great. I hit up estefania and she doesn't reply, great again LOL. Put out the bat signal :a video of the place sent to the girls I actually want to see via Facebook story /whatsapp then run to carulla to get some supplies: baileys as 3 of the facebook girls said they like that, then some tequilla, beer, and water for myself.

Take a power nap and wake up around 6:30 to start getting ready for marianna at 8; nothing, and she has not been active for an hour. I start to panic, can I really go 0 for 3?. 8 pm comes, nothing, I say I'll give it 30 minutes. At 825 I hit up some other lower options but opt to just tell my 11 pm marcela and to come earlier. At 930 marianna hits me up saying she fell asleep and can be here in 20, I say let's do Wednesday as my Tues is already aggressively booked (after what happened today I figured I may as well ancitipafe a cancelation). Marcela shows up at 1030, I ask her if she's hungry and she is so I tell her let's grab a pizza from domino's across the street. Hang out, eat and have a few drinks cuddling and then we get it on. I was so horny that I finished and then went for another round. Was great, she is a sweet girl, not the most attractive but has a tight body and was total GFE. She stays for around 3 hrs then leaves. 150 k + taxi.

Thsi first day was definitely not what I planned, but having some time to relax could be good if no one flakes tomorrow!

Woke up at 1030 and confirmed the 4 appts I made the day prior for 2, 4, 7, and 930, all responsive, all in. A much better sign than yesterday. I decided to go see Centro. Took a taxi and got there around 1145. Planned to get back to airbnb by 145 which gave me 90 minutes to mess around. Me Walked through Plaza botero and the church to scope out the SWs, nothing caught my eye. I'm sure something would have eventually but that game takes time and I don't not have it. Walked over to Bolivar Park, and only saw a few. Decided to go do some casa rounds and started at club de amigas sexi. One with a pretty face caught my eye. Introductions, one other I'd consider but she didn't seem to have much interest in me. Luisa wise bubbly and vibrant so it was a no brainer! Scheduled 45 minutes for 65 k and went up. Chit chat a bit, she gave me a message, then I caught her off guard when I said "tu turno" her back was quite tight and she enjoyed it. When I was working on her legs I said she must go to the gym to which she replied "si, mucho" I like a girl with strong legs haha. We have about 25 minutes left and she knows it's go time. She has some solid tits, a tad saggy due to her being 29 and having a kid, but I still thoroughly enjoyed playing with them. Various positions but we end with her riding me cowgirl for a good 5 minutes (one reason I admire some strong legs). I ask for her number, she doesn't have a phone, ok no problem. I honestly don't need another option to ponder over. 2 pm appt Cristina says she is in the taxi, I hail an uber. After I check out of energy, I'm going to go to laurelles and spend more time as I want to check out more casas.

Wow she makes it there 15 minutes early and is waiting on me, go figure. Well this day is already starting out better than yesterday! Chit chat a bit and have some drinks. She is a pretty smart and genuine girl, I enjoyed the conversation more than the sex haha. If I lived in medellin, she would probably be someone I would hang out with as friends. Has a big real culo (something I'm not a huge fan of but appreciate as all the girls in Tijuana artificially inflate theirs to have what she has). She starts talking about how much of a nymoho she is; I ask what her record is for most times in a day and she says her last BF could go 6 then asks mine. I tell her 10, but I think it might be closer to 12. She is immediately turned on and says I can go as many times as I can to which I accept haha. Sex is going well until I see some blood on the sheet, sob! She is caught of guard and says it is a week early and that she had no idea. I believe her as it is in the preliminary stages but I still went limp. She took the condom off and gave me a BBBJ for a good 15 minutes until I finished in her mouth. Talked a bunch about traveling (solid topic for any of you who struggle with building rapport, all chicks dig it). I work on getting the stains out of the comforter, she is apologetic but they come out so I told her no worries. We talk a bit more, she says she knows many Asians and I am her new favorite. I ask why, and she says because my face and not having a small dick. I tell her I get that all the time LOL. Walk her downstairs and relax for a bit until 4 pm cita with Karen. 200 k mas taxi.

Karen hits me up saying it will be closer to 430 which I am ok with, and ends up arriving at 415. She is pretty hot, and I can't stop staring. Amidst her resting bich face, she breaks it after my intense glare with a pretty smile and asks why I'm staring, to which I reply "gracias por venir". We talk a bit about medellin, her life, and music. She digs tech house and raves which leads me to ask her if she can score some 2 si. She says yeah but maybe tomorrow. I say no problem. We have 2 more rounds of drinks with playful conversation, and while I go to grab her 3rd beer she pulls out her phone. I ask if she changed her mind and is going to try and get me 2 si and she laughs and says si. Awesome it'll be here in an hour. Off to the bedroom for some sex, BJ was better than I'd expect of a girl with her looks. Okamato 001 xl on and she mounts me. After a small time she says cuatro, ahh come on girl. Ok doggie, into Mish, then I have her on top again but facing away so I can stare at her behind. Tell her put her legs up and ride Rev cowgirl and assist her up and down until I finish. Drugs arrive, easy transition. I like how the security at energy will come to your door if there are visitors haha, you literally don't have to leave the room. We do some 4 or 5 bumps, listen to more music and she asks what I am doing later, I say I'm pretty busy but maybe tomorrow or thurs. She says she wants to take me to some real clubs (I mentioned I only visited the ones in lleras LOL). 300 k included taxi.

Ok she leaves at 645, and Vanessa sends me her location. Good girl haha. I run to carulla for more beer and mixers. She arrived a little past 7 and is a looker as well. Sees the 2 si and starts hitting it, I'm already feeling it but continue to partake. Play some tech house that she likes, give her my uber eats account so she can order food, fix her a drink and she gives me an exotic strip show intertwined with some dancing. The food comes after an hour, she eats, and then we dance some more. She strips down fully nude and pulls me to the bedroom. Her BJ skills were decent and I am enjoying her. I also am enjoying her intense eye contact, totally turned on by that. Go in for some dinner at the why which she is enjoying as she is squirming (well either that or she is really ticklish LOL). My phone is still connected to Bluetooth and the music stops twice due to someone calling me on Facebook messe ver, a bit disruptive, but her phone was being pinged nonstop when we were sitting in the living room so it's all good. Just the nature of the business jaja. She mounts me and finishes on top of me, we spoon for a bit and then go back to the living room to check our phones LOL. I see it is my 900 calling for last minute confirmation. I told her yes multiple times, but she says she will be late like 10 which is perfect as it is 9 and vannessa is still here. We shower, get dressed and chill on the couch. A buddy of mine from us calls me to talk about a job and she passes out for 10 minutes, wakes up and then says she will call a taxi. I talk with my buddy for a half hour, then walk Vanessa out downstairs. 300 k included taxi.

Jesse shows up at 1012 and we start ripping more tussi. This cita was strange because we hardly said 2 words to eachother. Nonstop 2 si, smoking, drinks, dancing, then getting it on over the course of 2. 5 hrs I. E. Grind on me, pull away and shake it in front of me, strip a little bit, bump of tussi, shot of tequilla, make out, dance with eachother, repeat. She also has a big natural behind, better shaped than Cristinas. Time flies and we are just communicating on another wavelength. When she can no longer strip off any more clothing in the above sequence, we head to the room. Passionate GFE session that was fueled by the 2 si, but also by the sexual chemistry we had. Had to check message timestamps as had no idea when she left - 1237 am. 250 k included taxi.

Drained, started writing this report but passed out. 5 citas planned for tomorrow. Going to go out big for my last night at energy. No I am not a sport fucker, my libido is supercharged which is both a blessing and a curse.

All of my citas have been in the 2. 5 HR range and could have lasted longer if I didn't have citas immediately following. The ones where I didn't negotiate anything beforehand, I got everything I wanted anyway, so to jbees wisdom, that's my move, just ask for the bare minimum cita knowing that I'll get BBBJ and some kissing at a min, and with rapport building skills will eventually convince them to give me whatever I want. I forget that I am well versed when it comes to convincing someone to do something LOL. So that's the play from here on out, no need to ask for 2 polvos or minimum time, if I was the girl I might have a preconceived notion that this guy is not someone I want to be around. For the most part I am someone who people want to be around, and I know how to treat a woman so I'll admit that I was doing it all wrong explicitly stating everything up front. Sure there may be the risk that the girl will refuse something or try to upcharge, but that is also where true game comes in and who doesn't like a nice challenge? I also think in talking to them online and scoping their Facebook profiles out, one is able to see who is legitimate and who is not. Reports on the forum are also a major help. Hence my report, my attempt at giving back! I'll admit the facebook game was convenient as you could do research up front, and I guess it's no different than me using tinder to strategically collect matches ahead of my visit but there was definitely excessive time spent during the weeks leading up to this trip adding girls and scouring friends list, but I guess technically that is a one time no recurring effort to build the foundation and maintain thereafter, and am not complaining as I've met some great girls, and also other similar like minded dudes who have been fun to talk strategy with.

Cheers, got to prep for my 3 pm.

Lew.

I already had my doubts since she hides her face in her pictures, she hit me up yesterday asking for a cita and I said to send me some face pictures without filters. Not that great by any means, but with the body I thought why not. 200 k with taxi. Anyway I'll touch on more detail in my next report, but her body isn't even the one in the pictures! If you like a skinny girl with a busted face then she could work out but just don't expect anything like her pictures.

Out,

Lew.

[QUOTE=LewAshby;2433136]Woke up at 1030 and confirmed the 4 appts I made the day prior for 2, 4, 7, and 930, all responsive, all in. A much better sign than yesterday. I decided to go see Centro. Took a taxi and got there around 1145. Planned to get back to airbnb by 145 which gave me 90 minutes to mess around. Me Walked through Plaza botero and the church to scope out the SWs, nothing caught my eye. I'm sure something would have eventually but that game takes time and I don't not have it. Walked over to Bolivar Park, [/QUOTE]You're tearing it up there. Good work.

My thoughts on being too specific with Facebook girls is you turn it into a business deal instead of a social engagement. That puts her into the "how can I get the best of this deal" mindset. When you negotiate with someone, they're going to negotiate back. If she can cut the time, miss the 2nd pop, skip the BBBJ, then she wins. Remember, Colombians will seldom give a direct "no. " Most feel it's better to just make up an excuse later.

I keep it informal. Stress taking our time, enjoying things and just move along with the flow. Some girls want to get straight to work, some want to chill. If you're in a nice place, treating them nice, why would they be in a hurry to leave? Contrary to common belief, most of the girls aren't stacking 4 or 5 citas a night. You are probably one of maybe 3 she'll see all week. Unless you're following the crowd and going with the most popular ones, that is.

I have known two of the pros for 5 years. The other pro, I used a condom. The non-pro girls and occasionals are probably accustomed to BBFS, because that's what expect by most Colombianos. And these are the kind of girls who are not fucking gringos every day. Or sometimes ever (non-pros). I do not pay any extra. And of course I am not paying the non-pros at all, other than taxi and maybe some food. Again, this does not happen over night. These girls trust me. I put some time in developing a comfort level.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2432925]Awesome report. I think we all like BBFS LOL, I'm surprised that they all let you hit it raw though. Every chica I've met here has been VERY conscious of playing safe, which I actually appreciate. Do you offer extra $ or is it because you have known them for some time now?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2433153]

I keep it informal. Stress taking our time, enjoying things and just move along with the flow. Some girls want to get straight to work, some want to chill. If you're in a nice place, treating them nice, why would they be in a hurry to leave? Contrary to common belief, most of the girls aren't stacking 4 or 5 citas a night. You are probably one of maybe 3 she'll see all week. Unless you're following the crowd and going with the most popular ones, that is.[/QUOTE]Exactly what I do as well.

Since I've endeavored into the MDE FB scene, I've had 3 of them completely 'enamorarse de mi', fall in love, LOL.

I'm nothing special really, normal dude in his 50's, in pretty good shape, but I do speak fluent spanish or about as fluent as a gringo can get, and I'm really good at 'dando papo' as they say in Brazil, the talk.

I don't do drugs at all, drink a little, but tolerant of any chica that does, in moderation.

I'm not a transaction sex kind of guy.

Nothing wrong with that, and I used to be way more into that.

I've evolved into the hangin out, good loving sex, etc.

For me, I never talk time period, number of pops, positions, etc.

If I'm not feeling a connection online, I move on.

Of course this is not for every guy.

For new guys, more spanish handicapped or just more introverted, etc, of course it may be better to get it all planned and negotiated beforehand.

Hey everyone,

With the whole coronavirus scare, I think it'd be best if I pulled the trigger and visited Medellin for the first time before the inevitable travel bans, policies, and whatever. I have a few questions after RTFF, and I'd love and appreciate a response:

- Do I have to watch out for AirBnbs if I get an apartment? I read somewhere that they check for girls and will ask for a girl fee if the building is managed?

- Is it better to stay a little more south in Medellin, like by the modern art museum?

- I'm not fluent in Spanish at all (Asian dude here), should I try to find places that cater more towards English speakers, or pray for Google Translate to work?

- If I don't want to use Tinder or Facebook, are my options just trying to find someone off the street or going to clubs?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2433153]You're tearing it up there. Good work.

My thoughts on being too specific with Facebook girls is you turn it into a business deal instead of a social engagement. That puts her into the "how can I get the best of this deal" mindset. When you negotiate with someone, they're going to negotiate back. If she can cut the time, miss the 2nd pop, skip the BBBJ, then she wins. Remember, Colombians will seldom give a direct "no. " Most feel it's better to just make up an excuse later.

I keep it informal. Stress taking our time, enjoying things and just move along with the flow. Some girls want to get straight to work, some want to chill. If you're in a nice place, treating them nice, why would they be in a hurry to leave? Contrary to common belief, most of the girls aren't stacking 4 or 5 citas a night. You are probably one of maybe 3 she'll see all week. Unless you're following the crowd and going with the most popular ones, that is.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with everything you said my man, I was totally over thinking it demanding 2 polvos and CIM, my best sessions so far have been with the girls that I haven't talked any details with (go figure). I've always practiced the "treat a working girl like a princess and a princess like a working girl" mantra, and making everything so business like had the makings of a robotic / poor cita. I just spent 3. 5 hrs with a well reviewed girl here just talking about life and the world, and have made plans to go out trying to find the best bandeja paisa in medellin on Friday.

Cheers.

Are you my twin brother separated at birth? Jeez. Never read of someone so similar to me.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2433186]Exactly what I do as well.

Since I've endeavored into the MDE FB scene, I've had 3 of them completely 'enamorarse de mi', fall in love, LOL.

I'm nothing special really, normal dude in his 50's, in pretty good shape, but I do speak fluent spanish or about as fluent as a gringo can get, and I'm really good at 'dando papo' as they say in Brazil, the talk.

I don't do drugs at all, drink a little, but tolerant of any chica that does, in moderation.

I'm not a transaction sex kind of guy.

Nothing wrong with that, and I used to be way more into that.

I've evolved into the hangin out, good loving sex, etc.

For me, I never talk time period, number of pops, positions, etc.

If I'm not feeling a connection online, I move on.

Of course this is not for every guy.

For new guys, more spanish handicapped or just more introverted, etc, of course it may be better to get it all planned and negotiated beforehand.[/QUOTE]

Met up with Junior11 this morning in Laureles to walk around and see more of that area. Got drinks at El Buho Cafe after walking for a couple of hours and just sat there, people watching and shooting the shit. Around 1 pm, we decided to go for lunch and found a cool spot in Sur Americana with a lunch special for 9 k. Meat of choice, rice, beans, plantain, salad and juice. It was really good and the spot we were in was a gold mine of college chica's walking around.

Around 3 pm or so, I wanted to head to El Centro to get some more shoes and do another Little Caracas lap, so we Uber over there. Talent is terrible, not many girls out. I don't get what I'm doing wrong over there. We go over to the shoe place I like and they were low on stock, only had a couple options and not many sizes. Last week they were full up! I shoulda grabbed more then. It's probably about 4:30 p and we decide its time to head home and get our dates set for tonight. We grab some fruit from the local stands and head our separate ways.

I had plans set with Luisa tonight but didn't confirm with her earlier cause well, I'm a *******. I figured I'the wait until later to see what else turned up for the night. At 5 pm, she asks if she can come earlier at 7 pm, and I say yes, and then she disappears. I end up talking to another two chicas and we don't find a deal that works. I text Isabela and she is free and can be here in 1. 5 hours, great, confirmed.

Two minutes later, Luisa texts me and says sorry I fell asleep, I can come now. Oh fuck, seriously. I tell her I'm sorry I made other plans now I didn't hear back, you said you needed to be here at 7 pm, and then disappeared on me, its 7 pm now and I thought you wouldn't be free. She says, no you are the one who disappeared on me all day, I texted you in the morning. OK, she got me there. I said you are right, I am sorry, I was out with a friend all day and wasn't sure when I would be home. I texted right when I got home and didn't hear back for 2 hours. Don't be mad at me, I am free Saturday because Thursday and Friday are booked. She says no problem and definitely confirmed for Saturday.

Hop on Rappi and order wings, chicken tenders, and fries from Sport Wings and get in the shower to clean up. I get out and Isabela texts that she is on the way. Damn, this girl is punctual.

She shows up about 10 minutes early, eat a little bit, I have her put on some of her favorite music and she chooses a group that she says is very romantic and her favorite. Ok, interesting choice. We have a couple drinks and she goes to the bathroom to freshen up. I'm laying on the bed when she comes out and we starting making out. She must really love kissing because we go at this for awhile, clothes come off, back to making out while she is grinding on me and I can feel her getting wet. She positions herself and thrusts down on me raw. Holy crap she feels amazing and I didn't want to kill the vibe but I pull myself out and say, we need to talk about that if we are having sex sin condom. We talk about it for a minute and she says no problem if you want to use condom but I trust you and think its okay without condom. I think about it for about 10 seconds and am just like, nah it aint worth it, damnit!!

Condom on and we fuck hard, I see why she chose this music, it really sets the tone to be girlfriend experience. I could swear this chick is my girlfriend the way she behaves, I honestly can't tell if this chick loves me or just deserves a damn Oscar.

I am in missionary going away on her and thinking this time is way more intense than the first time we met. I can feel her wetness dripping down my balls and am almost positive she is ovulating. Thank god I put the condom on. I finish HARD with her riding me and kissing at the same time, she knows I came, and just keeps riding me and moaning until she starts to slow and lays on top of me exhausted for a few minutes. We both shower, pour another drink and just lay in bed cuddling, caressing each other, she's lightly scratching my back and we chat, joke, kiss.

I ask her where the best Sancocho is and she says at her house and I can come over tomorrow around 1 pm. I'm honestly not sure if she is serious or not. I ask if she's serious and she's telling me to come, its okay. I still think she must be joking LOL I still don't know for sure.

Seriously, are we getting married soon, I don't get what's happening here (of course I know its not real, I'm just painting the picture of how real she is able to make it) I'm actually confused LOL.

After awhile goes by, she says she has class early and should go soon. I tell her, hey, I thought we were going to go twice, and her eyes light up big, huge smile on her face and she says, oh I thought you didn't want to, okay, lets go!

More intense kissing, lots of kissing my body as she moves down for a BBBJ. Her technique is flawless. Inner thigh kisses and licks, absolutely perfect attention to the balls, intense use of her tongue, she has a PhD from an Ivy League in blowjobs. I'm thinking to just let her finish with the blowjob but she wants to fuck again. We're in missionary, first legs wide open, and then later move her legs together and her knees bent kind of against my chest. She's super petite so in this position I can hold her torso and pull her into me while I am thrusting into her.

While I assume 99% of the time, a working chick is faking an orgasm, tonight, there was no faking anything. She's moaning intensely, her eyes show me she is close, I pick up the intensity and she's saying "SI, SI, SI" and she comes hard, she tightens up on me really hard as she is coming, grabs my neck and pulls me in so our foreheads are against each other and I come right after. While I have decently intense orgasms, this was ridiculous, It must have lasted 30 seconds and had a couple of waves to it.

I'm dead, straight dead. Got my cardio in for the day. Takes me a couple minutes to recover, we're both laying in the bed, spread out. She moves over, and lays her head on my chest and gives me light kisses on my body. A few minutes later, back in the shower to clean up, she gets dressed, I tell her it's sad to see her go and she jumps back on the bed for more kissing until the Uber arrives.

10/10. She holds the number one spot of all the chica's I have seen her yet. She was a contender in the top 3 for sure, but tonight took it to another level.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2433235]Are you my twin brother separated at birth? Jeez. Never read of someone so similar to me.[/QUOTE]We should start a club.

I don't think it's me being Asian so much as not being able to speak Spanish. But hard to say. Maybe it is the mechanical thing but the sessions are usually pretty good until after the first pop. Then they want to leave and that's usually the issue.

Try googling chica Paisas. They should show up as a massage agency.

[QUOTE=Striker699;2433047]Thank you for your detailed reports. I'm a few days from heading to Medellin for the first time and they have provided a lot of useful info.

Do you think your experience with the FB girls was impacted from being Asian (I'm assuming based on your name) and them thinking you were an easy target?

Could you please provide some more details of this chicapaisas massage place? I tried searching the forum and google and came up blank.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2433305]I don't think it's me being Asian so much as not being able to speak Spanish. But hard to say. Maybe it is the mechanical thing but the sessions are usually pretty good until after the first pop. Then they want to leave and that's usually the issue.

Try googling chica Paisas. They should show up as a massage agency.[/QUOTE]After the first pop they are looking for the next client and a chance to get more money in less time. They want to be efficient for Capital Gains. Don't take it personal, it's business for them and should be only a service for you unless your pursue is beyond that. Explore more and expand your options With the Chino thing, use it to your advantage and peak their interest about you and you're ethnicity. A rare commodity for them.

Wow Lew, I am pretty jealous of your skills / luck with the fb girls. I need you to teach me your ways haha. Do you speak Spanish? I'm also Asian and I'the say I'm pretty decent looking so I've always used my lack of Spanish as a crutch for my failures but maybe it's just that I'm making it too much of a business. I'll definitely try your method next time I go. Any chance you could PM me a couple fb contacts that you would recommend?

I had alcohol on hand before but none of the girls would ever both to drink it. We'the always go straight to sex but I'll try having some weed and 2 si available for the girls too. Maybe that'll help.

Also, do you normally eat with the girl before you have sex? What do you do for the 45 minutes while you're waiting for food? Also, I find that eating will sometimes make it harder for me to get hard (which weed and 2 si also happen to do but I'll fight past that LOL).

[QUOTE=LewAshby;2433136]Woke up at 1030 and confirmed the 4 appts I made the day prior for 2, 4, 7, and 930, all responsive, all in. A much better sign than yesterday. I decided to go see Centro. Took a taxi and got there around 1145. Planned to get back to airbnb by 145 which gave me 90 minutes to mess around. Me Walked through Plaza botero and the church to scope out the SWs, nothing caught my eye. I'm sure something would have eventually but that game takes time and I don't not have it. Walked over to Bolivar Park, and only saw a few. Decided to go do some casa rounds and started at club de amigas sexi. One with a pretty face caught my eye. Introductions, one other I'd consider but she didn't seem to have much interest in me. Luisa wise bubbly and vibrant so it was a no brainer! Scheduled 45 minutes for 65 k and went up. Chit chat a bit, she gave me a message, then I caught her off guard when I said "tu turno" her back was quite tight and she enjoyed it. When I was working on her legs I said she must go to the gym to which she replied "si, mucho" I like a girl with strong legs haha. We have about 25 minutes left and she knows it's go time. She has some solid tits, a tad saggy due to her being 29 and having a kid, but I still thoroughly enjoyed playing with them. Various positions but we end with her riding me cowgirl for a good 5 minutes (one reason I admire some strong legs). I ask for her number, she doesn't have a phone, ok no problem. I honestly don't need another option to ponder over. 2 pm appt Cristina says she is in the taxi, I hail an uber. After I check out of energy, I'm going to go to laurelles and spend more time as I want to check out more casas.

Wow she makes it there 15 minutes early and is waiting on me, go figure. Well this day is already starting out better than yesterday! Chit chat a bit and have some drinks. She is a pretty smart and genuine girl, I enjoyed the conversation more than the sex haha. If I lived in medellin, she would probably be someone I would hang out with as friends. Has a big real culo (something I'm not a huge fan of but appreciate as all the girls in Tijuana artificially inflate theirs to have what she has). She starts talking about how much of a nymoho she is; I ask what her record is for most times in a day and she says her last BF could go 6 then asks mine. I tell her 10, but I think it might be closer to 12. She is immediately turned on and says I can go as many times as I can to which I accept haha. Sex is going well until I see some blood on the sheet, sob! She is caught of guard and says it is a week early and that she had no idea. I believe her as it is in the preliminary stages but I still went limp. She took the condom off and gave me a BBBJ for a good 15 minutes until I finished in her mouth. Talked a bunch about traveling (solid topic for any of you who struggle with building rapport, all chicks dig it). I work on getting the stains out of the comforter, she is apologetic but they come out so I told her no worries. We talk a bit more, she says she knows many Asians and I am her new favorite. I ask why, and she says because my face and not having a small dick. I tell her I get that all the time LOL. Walk her downstairs and relax for a bit until 4 pm cita with Karen. 200 k mas taxi.

Karen hits me up saying it will be closer to 430 which I am ok with, and ends up arriving at 415. She is pretty hot, and I can't stop staring. Amidst her resting bich face, she breaks it after my intense glare with a pretty smile and asks why I'm staring, to which I reply "gracias por venir". We talk a bit about medellin, her life, and music. She digs tech house and raves which leads me to ask her if she can score some 2 si. She says yeah but maybe tomorrow. I say no problem. We have 2 more rounds of drinks with playful conversation, and while I go to grab her 3rd beer she pulls out her phone. I ask if she changed her mind and is going to try and get me 2 si and she laughs and says si. Awesome it'll be here in an hour. Off to the bedroom for some sex, BJ was better than I'd expect of a girl with her looks. Okamato 001 xl on and she mounts me. After a small time she says cuatro, ahh come on girl. Ok doggie, into Mish, then I have her on top again but facing away so I can stare at her behind. Tell her put her legs up and ride Rev cowgirl and assist her up and down until I finish. Drugs arrive, easy transition. I like how the security at energy will come to your door if there are visitors haha, you literally don't have to leave the room. We do some 4 or 5 bumps, listen to more music and she asks what I am doing later, I say I'm pretty busy but maybe tomorrow or thurs. She says she wants to take me to some real clubs (I mentioned I only visited the ones in lleras LOL). 300 k included taxi.

Ok she leaves at 645, and Vanessa sends me her location. Good girl haha. I run to carulla for more beer and mixers. She arrived a little past 7 and is a looker as well. Sees the 2 si and starts hitting it, I'm already feeling it but continue to partake. Play some tech house that she likes, give her my uber eats account so she can order food, fix her a drink and she gives me an exotic strip show intertwined with some dancing. The food comes after an hour, she eats, and then we dance some more. She strips down fully nude and pulls me to the bedroom. Her BJ skills were decent and I am enjoying her. I also am enjoying her intense eye contact, totally turned on by that. Go in for some dinner at the why which she is enjoying as she is squirming (well either that or she is really ticklish LOL). My phone is still connected to Bluetooth and the music stops twice due to someone calling me on Facebook messe ver, a bit disruptive, but her phone was being pinged nonstop when we were sitting in the living room so it's all good. Just the nature of the business jaja. She mounts me and finishes on top of me, we spoon for a bit and then go back to the living room to check our phones LOL. I see it is my 900 calling for last minute confirmation. I told her yes multiple times, but she says she will be late like 10 which is perfect as it is 9 and vannessa is still here. We shower, get dressed and chill on the couch. A buddy of mine from us calls me to talk about a job and she passes out for 10 minutes, wakes up and then says she will call a taxi. I talk with my buddy for a half hour, then walk Vanessa out downstairs. 300 k included taxi.

Jesse shows up at 1012 and we start ripping more tussi. This cita was strange because we hardly said 2 words to eachother. Nonstop 2 si, smoking, drinks, dancing, then getting it on over the course of 2. 5 hrs I. E. Grind on me, pull away and shake it in front of me, strip a little bit, bump of tussi, shot of tequilla, make out, dance with eachother, repeat. She also has a big natural behind, better shaped than Cristinas. Time flies and we are just communicating on another wavelength. When she can no longer strip off any more clothing in the above sequence, we head to the room. Passionate GFE session that was fueled by the 2 si, but also by the sexual chemistry we had. Had to check message timestamps as had no idea when she left - 1237 am. 250 k included taxi.

Drained, started writing this report but passed out. 5 citas planned for tomorrow. Going to go out big for my last night at energy. No I am not a sport fucker, my libido is supercharged which is both a blessing and a curse.

All of my citas have been in the 2. 5 HR range and could have lasted longer if I didn't have citas immediately following. The ones where I didn't negotiate anything beforehand, I got everything I wanted anyway, so to jbees wisdom, that's my move, just ask for the bare minimum cita knowing that I'll get BBBJ and some kissing at a min, and with rapport building skills will eventually convince them to give me whatever I want. I forget that I am well versed when it comes to convincing someone to do something LOL. So that's the play from here on out, no need to ask for 2 polvos or minimum time, if I was the girl I might have a preconceived notion that this guy is not someone I want to be around. For the most part I am someone who people want to be around, and I know how to treat a woman so I'll admit that I was doing it all wrong explicitly stating everything up front. Sure there may be the risk that the girl will refuse something or try to upcharge, but that is also where true game comes in and who doesn't like a nice challenge? I also think in talking to them online and scoping their Facebook profiles out, one is able to see who is legitimate and who is not. Reports on the forum are also a major help. Hence my report, my attempt at giving back! I'll admit the facebook game was convenient as you could do research up front, and I guess it's no different than me using tinder to strategically collect matches ahead of my visit but there was definitely excessive time spent during the weeks leading up to this trip adding girls and scouring friends list, but I guess technically that is a one time no recurring effort to build the foundation and maintain thereafter, and am not complaining as I've met some great girls, and also other similar like minded dudes who have been fun to talk strategy with.

Cheers, got to prep for my 3 pm.

Lew.[/QUOTE]

El Centro Street Action.

So this was where I would normally start off my days after breakfast. I would usually get to el centro around 1130 am. My daily routine was doing a few laps around plaza Botero, Veracruz and the raudal area before going for a casa visit. Let's start off with plaza Botero.

Plaza Botero.

So this is usually where I would start things off. There are plenty of girls hanging about in this area. Unfortunately I never saw any girls here to my liking. Sometimes I would just go have a seat in the cafe outside the museum overlooking the plaza. I saw one tourist guy here take out his phone and approach a group of girls standing next to one of the statues in the plaza. At first the girls thought he wanted a picture of them but then they realized he wanted one of them to take a picture for him. One girl sprang forward and took his phone, I for sure thought this girl was just going to run off with the mans phone. Luckily for him she just seemed really excited to take his picture. He also just left his backpack on the ground, while he walked away to have his picture taken. This is something I wouldn't suggest doing, unless you want your stuff to get stolen. I also visited the plaza in the afternoon and even at night. At those times I still didn't see anything I liked either.

Veracruz Street Action.

This street area is a just a few minutes walk from plaza botero. You take calle 52 from the plaza headed towards the back of the museum then take a left on avenida Cundinamarca and this is the Veracruz area. It's one block of street action on both sides of the street. When you get to calle 51 make a left turn. Calle 51 has some street action, it's also where most of the trans hangout. From calle 51 once you past the white church make a left turn and that will lead you back to plaza Botero.

You will find most girls hanging out in front of the short time motels. Some will be outside with a few hanging out in the staircases leading up to the short time rooms. You'll also see some girls hanging out in the bars and the small slot machine casinos along this area.

I would walk this area at different times throughout the day. Except for calle 51 at night, it was just too dimly lit and I wouldn't recommend walking down that path after dark. The latest I strolled through this area was no later than 10 pm. At night on avenida Cundinamarca there was always a big police presence on both sides of the block.

During the day there were only two girls that I was interested in. The first girl I was interested in was hanging out by a bar just before calle 51. The bar was all red decor with a pilsen signage out front. She was wearing a blue dress with a low v line cut showing off some nice cleavage. She had a cute face and a very busty chest. She quoted me 35 k for a session with her. I said ok and we headed up some stairs right next to the bar. When we got upstairs there were a few girls standing around and one tall trans girl. The room was 10 k for thirty minutes. The rooms here were small with very low ceilings. Also the door didn't seem to lock properly. She gave me a nice CBJ followed by cowgirl, mish and doggy. It was an ok session, probably wouldn't repeat though. I also probably wouldn't use this place to session again. I didn't like that the door seemed like someone could just give it a push and it would open and there seemed to be a lot of foot traffic coming and going from the place. The name of the girl was Hermina. All the days that I walked through the Veracruz area, she was always wearing the same blue dress.

Okay so the second girl I was interested in was hanging out by a short time motel by the corner of calle 52 and avenida Cundinamarca. She was wearing a red dress and had a very nice bubble butt. Unfortunately though I did not get the chance to session with this girl. I messed up, I had seen her and wanted to go talk to her but I decided that I wanted to do one lap around the veracruz area first and then come back to her. When I came back though she was gone and I never saw her again the next few days I was in the area.

So I walked the veracruz area at night as well to see what type of talent came out. I walked around this area between about 8 pm to 10 pm. Like I said earlier there was a big police presence both nights I was in the area. Also at night I only walked on ave Cundinamarca and around plaza botero and always stayed in well lit areas. There's also still police in plaza Botero area at night, but it seemed about 930 pm they started to leave that area.

I thought for sure there was going to be some good talent here for the night shift. I didn't see anything I liked though.

Raudal Street Action.

Okay so here is where the fun begins. This was my favorite area for street action in el centro. The girls here were more to my liking. If you're an ass and boobs guy, this is a place to check out. The girls in this area are a bit older, when I say that they are about late twenties to early thirties. There were a few under twenty five looking ones.

To get to the raudal area, from plaza Botero square head towards avenida de greiff it's the street conejitas bar is located on right across from plaza Botero. Cross avenida de greiff towards conejitas and make a left then walk two blocks. Once you pass casino Excalibur, you will start to see some of the street girls hanging out by a short time motel on the corner of avenida de greiff and cr. 54. In the corner adjacent there is a white building with a bar. There are girls hanging out in the bar area and also outside the bar. If you turn right from avenida de greiff onto cr. 54 there are also girls hanging about on this street as well. Most of the girls will be on the left side of the street. Also there are only girls about halfway down the block on cr. 54 from what I saw.

Girl # 1 Tatiana (session #1).

I saw this girl as soon as I passed by casino Excalibur. She was wearing black tight leggings showing off a delicious big booty and a white mesh top exposing her big breast with pasties covering her nipples. I didn't pay too much attention to her face, I was more focused on her body. Upon getting closer her face was about a 5, she had this very sluttty MILF look though. Since I'm an ass / boobs guy I decided to go for it. We walked up stairs to the short time rooms. Room was 10 k /15 k for thirty minutes. This place was much better than the Veracruz short time place. Once in the room she immediately started getting undressed, I could tell her boobs were fake but I didn't care. She got into the doggy position on the bed and started blowing me while I stood up watching her give me a very sloppy CBJ. Then she got up and put one leg up on the nightstand and I started going in from behind. Then she went to her knees and started blowing me again. After we did it in mish, then doggy on the bed and in between some nice BJ action. Man what a great pse session this girl gave me. Session was 50 k with a generous tip.

Tatiana (session # 2).

So since I had a great session with her the first time I had to come back for seconds. This time she gave me a BBBJ. Oh man did it feel so good. She also offered me anal and to cum anywhere I wanted on her body including face. I asked her how much, and she quoted me a ridiculous price 200 k. I declined and then she said OK 100 k. I told her I would give her 50 k for anal and she agreed. So most girls I've paid extra for anal, usually only last a few minutes before they start to complain that it hurts. This girl wasn't one of them though. The session was going so well that I paid for another thirty minutes for the room. We ended up only doing anal the rest of session and taking breaks for her to give me a nice sloppy BBBJ. If you don't mind this girls face, she is a beast in the sack and can take a good pounding both pussy / anal. One thing I forgot to mention about her fake boobs. They are not soft to the touch, very tuff. Other than that if you're looking for pse this girl will deliver. Session was 50 k plus 50 k for anal and another generous tip. She also charged me 10 k for all the condoms we used.

Girl # 2 Carolina.

OK so I first saw this girl after my first session with Tatiana, she was standing in the lobby area of the motel I had my sessioned with Tatiana. This girl had a banging body, total Jessica rabbit type. I wanted to take this girl so bad but I was tired and needed a break.

So after some lunch, I headed back to raudal to find Ms Jessica rabbit. She was sitting down right outside the same short time hotel just past the excalibur casino, the same place I found Tatiana. In fact these two girls were friends. She looked so good sitting there, she even had these sexy looking glasses. I walked up to her, and said let's go. As we were walking up to the room, she told me she recognized me from earlier. I laughed and told her I needed to come back for her. This girl was all natural, if not I couldn't tell. Her breasts / ass were huge and so soft just an amazing body. This girl was wild, she kept teasing me with kisses to the mouth and biting on my nipples. Oh man and the sex was just incredible with her. She was very vocal and likes to be in charge. This girl delivered an amazing pse. Session was 50 k with a generous tip.

Carolina (session # 2).

There was no way I was leaving Medellin without seeing this girl again. I almost missed out on seeing her too. It was my last night in Medellin and I was coming from a session at zandaly. When I got to the raudal area it was about 7 pm. Be careful in this area at night time, not much lighting at night. So I passed by where she usually stands. She wasn't there. So I walked over to plaza Botero and there was some kinda big protest going on. The protesters were walking down avenida carabobo. I stayed and watched for a while but was unsure what they were protesting about. I then headed back to see if Carolina was back. Nope, no sign of her. I headed back to plaza botero to get a taxi back to my hotel. While in the taxi back to my hotel we passed by the raudal area and then I saw her standing in the entrance to the short time motel. I told the taxi to pull over and drop me off. Took her upstairs for another amazing pse. Also got to blow my load all over her sexy big tits. While getting dressed I found out she is from Bucaramanga, Colombia but lives in Bogota. Told me she was leaving the next day back to Bogota. Forgot to ask where she works while in Bogota but I'm assuming the Sante Fe area. So if you see a chick with a Jessica rabbit body and sexy glasses in Bogota or in Medellin raudal area, do yourself a favor and session with this girl. If you're a fan of big tits and ass and want pse look no further.

Girl # 3 Karen (Two sessions with this girl).

This girl can be found standing around outside or inside the bar on the corner of avenida de greiff and cra. 54 the white building.

So let me start by saying this girl is thick. Thick in all the right places though. Super thick booty and hips. Nice soft teardrop breast as well. This girl is basically naked out there, you can't miss her or her ass. She wears this sheer lingerie that is fence net, a g-string and no bra. I would say in the face department she is about 6. 5/7. We sessioned in a short time motel that is right next door to the bar she hangs out at. The room was 10 k /15 k for thirty minutes. I really enjoyed myself with this one. She started off with a nice CBJ. Then we proceeded to the mish position for a bit. For a thick girl she is very flexible with her legs. We then moved onto doggy. Oh man what a view of that ass smacking against my hips. She then asked if I liked anal sex and I told her yes. She told me 50 k and I agreed. She laid on her back with a pillow under her lower back to prop herself up a bit. She then lubed up and I entered her nice and slow and then gradually picked up the pace. What a sight to see, I had this girls legs spread far apart holding her by the ankles and just watching myself go in and out of her ass while her delicious pussy glistened. She was really into the anal as well, seemed to enjoy it more than when I was fucking her pussy. This girl was fantastic and took the anal sex like a champ. Session was 50 k plus 50 k extra for anal and a generous tip.

So the next day I came by to have another session with Karen. There she was standing with another sheer lingerie outfit on. I really liked this girl's body and she liked showing it off as well. When we got into the room she asked if I wanted anal sex again and I enthusiastically said yes. She started off the session this time with a BBBJ and some good deep throat skills. For this session we did anal sex only. She took a good pounding and never complained or asked me to stop. In Fact she encouraged me to go deeper and harder. After the sessioned ended we chatted for a bit. Told me she was from Cali, Colombia. She was also catching an overnight bus that night to Cali to be back home for ash Wednesday. Said she was going to stay in Cali until late March then come back to work in Medellin. She gave me her number and told me to keep in touch with her and let her know when I would be back in Colombia. If you like thick girls you need to try this girl out. She was very nice and super chill.

So for me I really enjoyed hunting in the raudal area. This area was the best for me because of the girls being more of the body type I liked. Many voluptuous girls in the area. I can't wait to return, there were other girls here that I liked but didn't have the chance to try out.

Check your PM.

Oh, wow man, I almost got an erection from reading this! I think you have a talent at writing this. Later I'm going to write my first proper review about my chica from yesterday. I'm sure it's not going to be as exciting to read as yours, but I will try.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2433247]Met up with Junior11 this morning in Laureles to walk around and see more of that area. Got drinks at El Buho Cafe after walking for a couple of hours and just sat there, people watching and shooting the shit. Around 1 pm, we decided to go for lunch and found a cool spot in Sur Americana with a lunch special for 9 k. Meat of choice, rice, beans, plantain, salad and juice. It was really good and the spot we were in was a gold mine of college chica's walking around.

Around 3 pm or so, I wanted to head to El Centro to get some more shoes and do another Little Caracas lap, so we Uber over there. Talent is terrible, not many girls out. I don't get what I'm doing wrong over there. We go over to the shoe place I like and they were low on stock, only had a couple options and not many sizes. Last week they were full up! I shoulda grabbed more then. It's probably about 4:30 p and we decide its time to head home and get our dates set for tonight. We grab some fruit from the local stands and head our separate ways.

I had plans set with Luisa tonight but didn't confirm with her earlier cause well, I'm a *******. I figured I'the wait until later to see what else turned up for the night. At 5 pm, she asks if she can come earlier at 7 pm, and I say yes, and then she disappears. I end up talking to another two chicas and we don't find a deal that works. I text Isabela and she is free and can be here in 1. 5 hours, great, confirmed.

Two minutes later, Luisa texts me and says sorry I fell asleep, I can come now. Oh fuck, seriously. I tell her I'm sorry I made other plans now I didn't hear back, you said you needed to be here at 7 pm, and then disappeared on me, its 7 pm now and I thought you wouldn't be free. She says, no you are the one who disappeared on me all day, I texted you in the morning. OK, she got me there. I said you are right, I am sorry, I was out with a friend all day and wasn't sure when I would be home. I texted right when I got home and didn't hear back for 2 hours. Don't be mad at me, I am free Saturday because Thursday and Friday are booked. She says no problem and definitely confirmed for Saturday.

Hop on Rappi and order wings, chicken tenders, and fries from Sport Wings and get in the shower to clean up. I get out and Isabela texts that she is on the way. Damn, this girl is punctual.

She shows up about 10 minutes early, eat a little bit, I have her put on some of her favorite music and she chooses a group that she says is very romantic and her favorite. Ok, interesting choice. We have a couple drinks and she goes to the bathroom to freshen up. I'm laying on the bed when she comes out and we starting making out. She must really love kissing because we go at this for awhile, clothes come off, back to making out while she is grinding on me and I can feel her getting wet. She positions herself and thrusts down on me raw. Holy crap she feels amazing and I didn't want to kill the vibe but I pull myself out and say, we need to talk about that if we are having sex sin condom. We talk about it for a minute and she says no problem if you want to use condom but I trust you and think its okay without condom. I think about it for about 10 seconds and am just like, nah it aint worth it, damnit!!

Condom on and we fuck hard, I see why she chose this music, it really sets the tone to be girlfriend experience. I could swear this chick is my girlfriend the way she behaves, I honestly can't tell if this chick loves me or just deserves a damn Oscar.

I am in missionary going away on her and thinking this time is way more intense than the first time we met. I can feel her wetness dripping down my balls and am almost positive she is ovulating. Thank god I put the condom on. I finish HARD with her riding me and kissing at the same time, she knows I came, and just keeps riding me and moaning until she starts to slow and lays on top of me exhausted for a few minutes. We both shower, pour another drink and just lay in bed cuddling, caressing each other, she's lightly scratching my back and we chat, joke, kiss.

I ask her where the best Sancocho is and she says at her house and I can come over tomorrow around 1 pm. I'm honestly not sure if she is serious or not. I ask if she's serious and she's telling me to come, its okay. I still think she must be joking LOL I still don't know for sure.

Seriously, are we getting married soon, I don't get what's happening here (of course I know its not real, I'm just painting the picture of how real she is able to make it) I'm actually confused LOL.

After awhile goes by, she says she has class early and should go soon. I tell her, hey, I thought we were going to go twice, and her eyes light up big, huge smile on her face and she says, oh I thought you didn't want to, okay, lets go!

More intense kissing, lots of kissing my body as she moves down for a BBBJ. Her technique is flawless. Inner thigh kisses and licks, absolutely perfect attention to the balls, intense use of her tongue, she has a PhD from an Ivy League in blowjobs. I'm thinking to just let her finish with the blowjob but she wants to fuck again. We're in missionary, first legs wide open, and then later move her legs together and her knees bent kind of against my chest. She's super petite so in this position I can hold her torso and pull her into me while I am thrusting into her.

While I assume 99% of the time, a working chick is faking an orgasm, tonight, there was no faking anything. She's moaning intensely, her eyes show me she is close, I pick up the intensity and she's saying "SI, SI, SI" and she comes hard, she tightens up on me really hard as she is coming, grabs my neck and pulls me in so our foreheads are against each other and I come right after. While I have decently intense orgasms, this was ridiculous, It must have lasted 30 seconds and had a couple of waves to it.

I'm dead, straight dead. Got my cardio in for the day. Takes me a couple minutes to recover, we're both laying in the bed, spread out. She moves over, and lays her head on my chest and gives me light kisses on my body. A few minutes later, back in the shower to clean up, she gets dressed, I tell her it's sad to see her go and she jumps back on the bed for more kissing until the Uber arrives.

10/10. She holds the number one spot of all the chica's I have seen her yet. She was a contender in the top 3 for sure, but tonight took it to another level.[/QUOTE]

My view is if a session leaves you wanting, go have another. But I am a Centro rat so it's much easier to take 2 or 3 turns on the provider wheel of fortune for the cost of one facebook go.

[QUOTE=LewAshby;2433231]Totally agree with everything you said my man, I was totally over thinking it demanding 2 polvos and CIM, my best sessions so far have been with the girls that I haven't talked any details with (go figure). I've always practiced the "treat a working girl like a princess and a princess like a working girl" mantra, and making everything so business like had the makings of a robotic / poor cita. I just spent 3. 5 hrs with a well reviewed girl here just talking about life and the world, and have made plans to go out trying to find the best bandeja paisa in medellin on Friday.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2433033]I went into the casa and narrowed my choice of girls to two. Then finally chose a winner. We went to the room and I can feel the girl energy and interest was low, very lacking in affection[/QUOTE]This is the problem with casas with line-ups. It makes it difficult for the girl to decline the session beforehand.

Compare that to street or bars or FB, if the girl isn't in the mood or doesn't like the guy, she can easily avoid the session, and it's easier to gauge her enthusiasm.

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2433371]This is the problem with casas with line-ups. It makes it difficult for the girl to decline the session beforehand.

Compare that to street or bars or FB, if the girl isn't in the mood or doesn't like the guy, she can easily avoid the session, and it's easier to gauge her enthusiasm.[/QUOTE]Or compare that to the casas that I go to where there is no lineup; everybody is just sitting in the common areas mingling.

So, Trump just banned europe flights to USA, and I have a flight to medellin (first time) from March 18 to March 23. Should I take it? Whats going on there about it?

I assume we have experts in this forum that could advise me. I am more worried about not being able to come back to the country due to flight restrictions.

Thanks.

Ok woke up around 1030. Made some breakfast and started checking in with the days citas, they all confirm.

First up is Maria, walks in and I am thinking I got catfished. But I'm civil and willing to live with my mistake as I had my doubts but was willing to roll the dice. Offer her a drink and we talk a little and I put on some music that she likes and she dances on me for a couple minutes then pushes me into the bedroom, felt a little forced but ok I go with it. She strips down, and starts with the BBBJ. About a minute into it she disappears into the bathroom, I wait. Then she comes back, continues for another minute and then says condon. I point to my nightstand and she grabs one of the okamotos, rips open the package, looks at it as if she is confused and throws it in the garbage and grabs another. I ask her why she did that and she says because it was too thin. She runs to the bathroom again and at this point I am over it. I saw no mas no quiero, and she doesn't say anything. Throwing my prized $3 condoms into the trash was the last straw. I tried but was just agitated. She goes to the living room and changes and I hold up my phone with her profile picture and ask her if that is her, to which she doesn't say anything. I open the door and she doesn't put up a fight at all, I am assuming this isn't the first time this has happened. I give her 100 k as she walks out the door. Looking back on this there were numerous ways to handle it more professionally, who knows why she kept running to the bathroom, I could've asked if everything was alright. Anyway, drank her semi full beer and wrote a report advising against her if you are going off the pictures. My fault, lessons learned.

315 Michel arrives, she definitely photographs well and can hide the extra pounds. She is bubbly and has a great personality. We take some pictures and video of her dancing on the balcony. She asks if she can smoke her joint, and I say go ahead. She dances for me a bit and then we move to the bedroom. As she takes off her clothes I am not digging it as much but am horny. BBBJ, rubber on, a small amount of riding where she then says cuanto, to which I reply no, and she grins and climbs back on. There's just something off about her, not to sound like a douche but she smelt funny, I think it was a combination of the stale weed breath and her hair extensions. Anyway, went to cuatro and pounder away until finish. I dig her arm tat, it's dope. She called her taxi just in time as security came to inform me that Marcela had arrived. 200 mas taxi.

452 pm marcela arrives, the one who the board has debated regarding whether or not she is worth 250, I'll say she is. I fix her a drink and she's pretty shy at first, pull out some jokes to get her laughing and she mentions that one of the girls I saw yesterday is a good friend of hers and went to her house when she was finished with me and had good things to say. I was wondering why all of a sudden Marcela was more responsive as I tried to get ahold of her Sunday to see her Mon. , them Mon. For Tues to no avail. She asked why I liked Colombia and I just touched on the food, how I still haven't been able to find a better bandeja paisa here than the one I've had in Florida. I ask her where her favorite is, she said her mother's, I ask what about Mondongo and say you better not say your mother, she cackles and says her mother. I insist on meeting her and get her to lose her shit when I say her mom would probably tell me to go away because I have Corona virus, to which I would reply, it's too late your daughter already has it! Haha. Everything flowed natural, into the bedroom for more love making than sex. Once finished we are lying next to eachother and I start to caress her skin, she said it feels good, and I ask if she likes harder massages (el dolor), she says yes so I give her my best impression of a Thai Massage to which she enjoys thoroughly. She asks what I'm doing tonight, I say I'm busy, but what about tomorrow, she said she'll be busy with class, but is free Friday afternoon. I say then we will have to find the second best bandeja paisa in medellin and she seems excited. She leaves just past 830. Solid girl, smaller than her pictures let on, 300 k includes taxi.

(Oh side note the pt that jbee and others have been driving home, she showed me her Facebook messenger and all of the unanswered messages and said she is turnt off when people randomly ask her for specific sexual acts or a cita. Good to know, technically I got lucky as I had 2 canned messages I'd send out. One for girls that I wasn't sure if they were wg or higher class type girls and another for those that I knew were wgs.).

I clean up a bit and refuel the drinks, marianna (the one who allegedly slept through our date Monday) is expected at 10, and shows up closer to 1045. She is a pretty girl, a bit on the party side as she gets right after the 2 si and reminds me of Jesse, just high energy all over the place dancing, drinking, grinding, kissing, stripping, I love it. We do that for an hour then she says she's cold and I don't blame her as she's in her bra and panties on the balcony. Goto the room dance, hit the 2 si, drink, then she begins a 30 min blowjob that is in sync with the tech house music we have playing. Amazing. Bang her doggie, Mish and CIM finish. Start caressing her skin which turns into another full blown massage. The. She returns the favor and even though she has no idea what she's doing, I like it hard so her elbow pressed into my muscles is enjoyable. Fix her another drink, eat some chips, hot the 2 si and she starts giving me another BJ. (Best BJ of the trip by far). Leads into round to which is more of her riding me this time, from super fast to super slow, I dig it and am feeling her. We finish, shower, and asks if I'm tired wo which I reply, si un poco. She would've stayed until the 2 si was gone, I've had my fill for the day in both that and sex so I tell her I'm going to bed. She wants to take the 2 si, I laugh and say I need it for tomorrow. Asks if she can take the rest of the tequila because she likes the bottle, I say yeah no problem as I am planning on checking out tomorrow. 250 k mas taxi. I pass out with minimal appts made as I am planning on going to laurelles. Didn't hit all the girls on my list but it was a solid 2. 5 days.

Spoke with a WG friend of mine this morning.

She said the police and military guys came in and shut down Parque Lleras last night at about 11 pm.

The park itself and all the clubs.

She obviously doesn't know if this will go on going forward, however, it's not an encouraging sign for the Parque Lleras / Gustos crowd.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2433468]Spoke with a WG friend of mine this morning.

She said the police and military guys came in and shut down Parque Lleras last night at about 11 pm.

The park itself and all the clubs.

She obviously doesn't know if this will go on going forward, however, it's not an encouraging sign for the Parque Lleras / Gustos crowd.[/QUOTE]Is related to COVID-19 (Coronavirus) ? Cause it would make sense to close Lleras since that's where the foreign people hang, and so most likely to spread anything to large groups.

[QUOTE=MexiMonger;2433439]So, Trump just banned europe flights to USA, and I have a flight to medellin (first time) from March 18 to March 23. Should I take it? Whats going on there about it?

I assume we have experts in this forum that could advise me. I am more worried about not being able to come back to the country due to flight restrictions.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]On the local news today the Colombian President outlined measures they are starting to take to limit crowd sizes, sporting events, etc. By the time you show up in roughly ten days people could be in a panic with places shutting down, etc. But nobody really knows.

And getting a flight out, who knows, the Colombian Government might pull the plug on foreigners coming into the Country, which is exactly what Trump did with Europe as you mentioned.

Since you have never been to Medellin, and with what's going on in other Countries, like in the USA, you should wait for another time when things are back to normal, or whatever the "new normal" is going to be.

That's my advice to you not being an expert on much of anything, albeit others may disagree with this.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2433476]Is related to COVID-19 (Coronavirus) ? Cause it would make sense to close Lleras since that's where the foreign people hang, and so most likely to spread anything to large groups.[/QUOTE]That's what she said, Yes.

I walked through Lleras around 2 a and there were hoards of people standing around, drinking, talking, etc. I can't confirm anything earlier, but the police were not actively doing anything regarding the crowds. When I walked by on they way out, maybe around 11:30 p, I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. I'm interested to see if they will do any of that on the money-making weekend nights.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2433468]Spoke with a WG friend of mine this morning.

She said the police and military guys came in and shut down Parque Lleras last night at about 11 pm.

The park itself and all the clubs.

She obviously doesn't know if this will go on going forward, however, it's not an encouraging sign for the Parque Lleras / Gustos crowd.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2433476]Is related to COVID-19 (Coronavirus) ? Cause it would make sense to close Lleras since that's where the foreign people hang, and so most likely to spread anything to large groups.[/QUOTE]I know quite a few guys who have cancelled or can not take trips there were schedule soon. I just came back on Monday and girls were already complaining about a fall off. I suspect I will be charitable with a few request for money from some girls I know well. But most I will politely decline.

[QUOTE=MexiMonger;2433439]So, Trump just banned europe flights to USA, and I have a flight to medellin (first time) from March 18 to March 23. Should I take it? Whats going on there about it?

I assume we have experts in this forum that could advise me. I am more worried about not being able to come back to the country due to flight restrictions.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]You didn't specify where you live, so I am guessing the US. Trump's travel ban does not apply to US citizens and permanent residents. Since Colombia and other countries in South America have only a few cases of the virus, I don't think there will be a travel ban from there. My neighbors went to Medellin last Monday and will be returning to the US next Monday. They said they haven't had any travel issues.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2433512]You didn't specify where you live, so I am guessing the US. Trump's travel ban does not apply to US citizens and permanent residents. Since Colombia and other countries in South America have only a few cases of the virus, I don't think there will be a travel ban from there. My neighbors went to Medellin last Monday and will be returning to the US next Monday. They said they haven't had any travel issues.[/QUOTE]Thank you.

I live both Usa and Mexico, not an US citizen though.

Well I'm guessing the flight itself is banned right? I mean the whole plane from europe.

I don't want to be strandend in medellin longer than planned because I have work to do here. Hopefully everything will be fine.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2433468]Spoke with a WG friend of mine this morning.

She said the police and military guys came in and shut down Parque Lleras last night at about 11 pm.

The park itself and all the clubs.

She obviously doesn't know if this will go on going forward, however, it's not an encouraging sign for the Parque Lleras / Gustos crowd.[/QUOTE]I was there from 10 pm till 1;15. Nothing shut down. Was there just now from 7 to 9.

Business as usual.

[QUOTE=MexiMonger;2433439]So, Trump just banned europe flights to USA, and I have a flight to medellin (first time) from March 18 to March 23. Should I take it? Whats going on there about it?

I assume we have experts in this forum that could advise me. I am more worried about not being able to come back to the country due to flight restrictions.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]In here now and I hope they won't let me back in!

LOL.

[QUOTE=MexiMonger;2433527]
Well I'm guessing the flight itself is banned right? I mean the whole plane from europe.

I don't want to be strandend in medellin longer than planned because I have work to do here. Hopefully everything will be fine.[/QUOTE]Only people are banned, but if there are no people, I doubt the airline will fly. There would have to be enough US residents coming back to somewhat fill the plane. I think that will only affect people stuck in Europe, not in Colombia. In my opinion, new cases of the virus will be slowing in most countries.

I fly on Copa. They go through Panama, so there should always be flights.

Wake up early and I see that the US is restricting Europe flights for 30 days. Not good. I'm in some local WhatsApp groups I am in and people are at Costco right when they open, 30 minutes later, the line at the register goes to the far back of the store, around and back towards the register. People are saying its a 4-5 hours was to checkout.

I have a lot of supplies but I'm thinking it wouldn't hurt to get a little more, but by Monday, when I am supposed to leave, the island will be bare bones. People are sending me photos of the local supermarket we all shop at and its already empty down to the shit nobody wants to eat. I immediately call Copa Airlines to change my flight.

Two days ago I called Copa to see what the cost is to change around noon. Got right through to an agent. Cost was $330 so I said, eh nah, I'll just wait until Monday, no big deal.

Today at 7 am, it took 40 minutes to get an agent because of high call volume. The agent said tons of people are canceling and changing flights. I ask for a flight for tomorrow and she tells me there are two window seats available on the itinerary I want, which has two legs. I ask to check biz class because on the way here, it was only a $300 upgrade. She tells me its $1000. I say no thank you, go book the two window seats. They're already gone, 2 minutes later!

Fuck it, get me booked, I need to go home. Granted I was leaving Monday anyway so its not a huge change. They are also waiving change fees now, so no cost to change to tomorrow. I feel like I got most of my trip in (21 days, now it is 18) and I feel satisfied and am not taking any chances.

A few hours later, Puerto Rico declares a state of emergency and every single person arriving in Puerto Rico will be tested for coronavirus. Good thing I'm going tomorrow before this escalates any further. My petsitter was able to get me some more supplies but it took her all afternoon just to find 8 gallons of water.

Anyway, I pack up all my shit so that I can just chill tomorrow before heading to the airport. Junior11 and I decide to kick it again and I want to check out Tesoro Mall. We hang there, walk around, again the malls here are really nice and high end. We shoot over to Douraku for lunch, they are known for their ramen, and the ramen in Puerto Rico is terrible so I want to satisfy this craving, Its one of my favorite foods. Definitely great ramen and would and should have eaten there multiple times if I knew. 18 k for a bowl.

We walk around Lleras, stop at Pergamino for coffee, walk through Provenza, get fruit smoothies and its almost 4 pm. Time to go chill out and confirm our dates. We say our goodbyes and plan to meet up soon, maybe here again, maybe Brazil. Hopefully Coronavirus finds a quick solution and we can all get back to our regularly scheduled mongering.

On to A (I'm not including her full name because I won't be sharing her and she is very low mileage). I've been talking to her since the second day I arrived, which was over two weeks ago. The timing never worked out. She lost her cedula and only told me that an hour before she was supposed to come the first time. Ok, that won't work. Second time we make plans, she dropped the ball on getting her new denuncia and couldn't come. Third time she was free, I was busy. I wanted to see this chick so bad that I just kept figuring out solutions. I tell her she needs the denuncia but also another document, a valid ID that has the cedula number on it. Earlier in the week she says yes I have one that will work. Now tonight she is supposed to be here at 7 pm, and at 6 pm, she tells me she only has the denuncia and a photo of her cedula. I tell her that isn't going to work, I already asked security and they said no, and I told her this days ago. I'm thinking, fuck this is going to get fucked up AGAIN.

She says its okay, it will work. I tell her it won't but fuck it, come and we can try. Junior hooks me up with a nice hotel with jacuzzi should we need that option. This is how bad I want to see her. Anyone else I would have said fuck this a week ago. She's almost impossible to schedule with.

She shows up, I head down, pay the taxi, which I think was her brother, she hops out and HOLY SHIT SHE IS GORGEOUS. If I could 3 D print my perfect chica, this is her. 5'1', no more than 100 lbs, super flaca but toned and you can tell she goes to the gym. Slight abs, super thing waist, natural see cup breasts, large almond shaped eyes. I'm thinking something has got to be wrong here, this women is 11/10 (for what I like) I have not found one women here that fits my exact profile and here on my last night, she has arrived.

Head over to security and I'm expecting a problem. Well, we got lucky because it was a security guard I haven't seen before, and she looks tired as shit and like she doesn't give a fuck. Signs her in. YES.

We head up, grab drinks, she is hungry so I give her my phone to order Rappi and its 45 minutes away. We just talk, drink, start moving closer to each other, and then she mentions she would love to cook for me because she loves cooking. I also love to cook and I say, well fuck, why didn't you say that ten minutes ago, we could have done that instead. She says I know, I didn't think we had time tonight but I am a great cook and I want to cook for you. Wow, that's sweet of her and I would love that. Most of these other chicas do not cook from whom I've met (only last nights Isabela also cooks a lot).

We start making out on the couch and I take her top off. Lord, you have blessed me. To see these tits on this tiny little frame is just unbelievable.

Food shows up, we eat, and head right to the bedroom. Clothes come off and I lay on her naked and we start making out again. I pull up, spread her legs to get a good look and she has either the nicest or maybe the second nicest looking pussy I have ever seen, tough call. This women is literal perfection head to toe. I don't get what is fucking going on right now.

Condom on, she asks me to go slow, she really is quite small and we ease into it until she's ready for more. I'm on top and have her legs spread wide, then together up on my shoulders, and then she starts grinding on me while laying down on her back and that feels fucking amazing. She can really move them hips! Because she's so small, its really easy to move her around the bed. I pick her up and pull her on top of me. Whoa, this is porn intensity riding. Twerking, then grinding, then circle motions and she doesn't get tired. Fuckkkkkkkin A. She's getting close which is making me getting close. She grabs my neck and grinds into me harder and faster, she comes, which makes me come. I'm in heaven. We clean up, get back in bed and cuddle, and kiss and chat for maybe an hour, and its getting close to when she needs to leave, we probably only have another 45 minutes to an hour.

We talk about a lot and she's really easy to talk to. Almost this entire time, she just keeps telling me how she loves my hair, my eyes etc. Earlier she wanted to take photos on my phone. I thought she wanted them of her, no, she wanted photos of us together. She asks me a lot about why I don't have a girlfriend or kids because I am 33. Turns out she is 18, turning 19 this weekend. I say I like to travel a lot and I haven't found the right person for that, so I am not ready. She asks if I live alone because she saw photos of my house, and I say yes I do.

I see where this is going, and I say, hey if you can get a visa, you are welcome to visit me anytime. We are both super into each other. She is in school but I highly doubt it will ever be possible to get it. She says she knows it is hard but she is going to look into it, she really wants to travel and come to Puerto Rico and spend more time together.

On to round two as she has to get up at 5 am, and has class at 7 am. Similar start, making out, missionary and this time I want to see her ridiculously firm perky butt. Flip her into doggy and my god what a view this is. Her butt is small, but perfect for her size and amazingly shaped. Just this perfect bubble butt. I'm pounding away on this chick while she has her face smashed into the pillows and she's gripping the comforter, arms fully extended. I slow and kind of sit back on my heels and she takes over without me saying anything. Again, porn-like twerking on me in doggy. I've had other girls try to do this, but she can DO THIS. I ask if I can video this because I can't believe it, and she says sure but no face. Uh, FUCK YES. After like 30 seconds of trying to take a decent video while the bed is shaking like an earthquake, I decide, fuck the video I need to just enjoy this LOL.

We switch between her twerking on me in doggy and then me pulling her into me while I'm thrusting, again, we both get close at the same time and similar to last night, this orgasm has 3-4 waves to it, last a long ass time and is crazy intense. As I'm in the middle of it and I'm still inside of her, she sits more upright, puts my hands on her tits and turns halfway to the left so she can kiss me.

This is hands down the number one chick of the trip. She topped Isabela. I didn't think it was possible. This was really in tune, intense, chemistry sex plus she is exactly to the T what I want in a women. There is no way to top this experience so I am leaving tomorrow a very happy man.

As hard as it is to believe, our arrangement was for 200 k max taxi. I already paid 20 k for the taxi when she arrived, but I gave her another 250 k at the end, and she was super happy with that. On top of that, because I'm leaving early and I went a little too crazy at Exito, I gave her all of my extras. Full salmon filet, camarones, BBC beers, half a bottle of nice rum, 5-6 grams of weed, packages of pasta, lots of small fridge items that were unused, full dozen eggs and more. She's really appreciative and tells me she lives alone but also has her niece with her half the week and takes care of her so this really helps plus she has her birthday party on Saturday so she can use the party stuff then. About $100 usd worth of stuff. She says, please change your flight back and stay and come to my party. I need to see you again. I say, as much as I would like to do that, I can't, and I've been trying to see you for 2 weeks! I also brought a cast iron pan from the states with me, which is hard to find and about 200 k here. (I got it on sale for $13 at Marshalls) She loves to cook, so I gave her that too.

She calls an Uber, I help her downstairs with 5 full bags of stuff, deep intense kisses goodbye. What a night. I'm sad to see her go and tell her that. More kisses, she tells me I am her novio. If I met her earlier in the trip, 100% I would have kept her for days and skipped all the other chicas I was hunting through. Well, that's how it goes and I could not have imagined a better ending.

I told her either she can come to me or I will be back as soon as I feel it is safe to travel again. I am hoping that is really damn soon.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2433395]Or compare that to the casas that I go to where there is no lineup; everybody is just sitting in the common areas mingling.[/QUOTE]Zandaly and Chicas amigas?

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2433555]Wake up early and I see that the US is restricting Europe flights for 30 days. Not good. I'm in some local WhatsApp groups I am in and people are at Costco right when they open, 30 minutes later, the line at the register goes to the far back of the store, around and back towards the register. People are saying its a 4-5 hours was to checkout.

I have a lot of supplies but I'm thinking it wouldn't hurt to get a little more, but by Monday, when I am supposed to leave, the island will be bare bones. People are sending me photos of the local supermarket we all shop at and its already empty down to the shit nobody wants to eat. I immediately call Copa Airlines to change my flight.

Two days ago I called Copa to see what the cost is to change around noon. Got right through to an agent. Cost was $330 so I said, eh nah, I'll just wait until Monday, no big deal.

Today at 7 am, it took 40 minutes to get an agent because of high call volume. The agent said tons of people are canceling and changing flights. I ask for a flight for tomorrow and she tells me there are two window seats available on the itinerary I want, which has two legs. I ask to check biz class because on the way here, it was only a $300 upgrade. She tells me its $1000. I say no thank you, go book the two window seats. They're already gone, 2 minutes later!.[/QUOTE]I enjoyed reading these field reports. Especially for A, how did you find your girls from Days 1 - 17? I've never tried Facebook, SA, Tinder. I just met a casa girl (mostly New Life) and kept her and / or her respective pro friend (s) for the remainder of my trips. But your reports make me want to try find some normal or semi-pro women.

[QUOTE=Wekilledkenny;2433587] I enjoyed reading these field reports. Especially for A, how did you find your girls from Days 1 - 17? I've never tried Facebook, SA, Tinder. I just met a casa girl (mostly New Life) and kept her and / or her respective pro friend (s) for the remainder of my trips. But your reports make me want to try find some normal or semi-pro women.[/QUOTE]Thanks Kenny, I recognize they are long and I get a lot of PMs thanking me for the detail. I know not everyone is literate, so I apologize to those folks who are slow readers LOL. These are for the guys who aren't here right now and can live vicariously though these reports, or for the guy thinking of coming and wants to know a bit more about what a day in Medellin is really like. I also enjoy reading others reports that go into more detail. Thanks to NormalAsianKid, Lew, and Slapshot who come to mind recently.

I tried 2 from photoprepagos, they were by far my worst experiences and they both had a bad odor. These girls are high mileage, not into it, clock watchers and are less concerned about keeping clean, clearly. Do not recommend.

All of the others are from FB and even the worst experience was pretty high quality as a base, but I really am looking for the 10 looks, 10 service, reasonable price. I found 1 that gets all those marks (A), and 2 others that come in very very close (Isabella and Karina).

I also found non-pros on FB but really didn't have the time to continue to develop those relationships, although I will definitely keep those relationships alive while I am away and see them when I return. Instagram and SA come in close second as a good source.

I did not use Tinder and I didn't even end up going to any casas or strip clubs while here, even though I fully intended to. I just had way more women to try and meet with than I could handle as is from FB alone. I didn't even get to see half of my Top List, let alone my full list has barely been scratched. I'm still getting new friends added daily from old requests. It's a bit overwhelming honestly, in the best possible way.

[QUOTE=ElBacano;2433745]I was obviously joking and the report was very Interesting. I will add the new Facebook route to my repertoire and hopefully my reports it can be as long and interesting as his.[/QUOTE]Beats the endless discussions of how to get pesos and how to get to and from the airport.

AdventureSeekr and I met up in the morning. He wanted to see Laureles. We walked on Carr. 70 and a few side streets. I commented on the local places I knew. After a good amount of walking I offered to sit down at El Buho Cafe. I like coffee there and people watching is usually great because lots of college girls pass it on their way from Estadio station to their university (UPB). Turned out he heard about that cafe and wanted to try it. So, it worked out perfectly. We had a great conversation on different subjects. Came time for lunch. I decided to take him to a more residential area. And even I learned something new. We set down at a restaurant I have been to before. They had menu del DIA for 10 k. It sounded really good. As good or even better was all the eye candy we saw. Lots of beautiful girls on the way to their respective colleges. I didn't know that particular street had such high student traffic, but Google Maps helped to connect the dots.

After lunch we went to El Centro to kill time, take another look at Ground Zero, and maybe buy some stuff.

It was late afternoon. It was time to part to figure out our dates for the night. I am not even 10% as organized as AdventureSeekr. I message a couple of girls. They are busy. So, I remembered Daniela, a single mom I wanted to see since January, but it never worked out. I didn't want to see her very badly because I was worried about baby damage haha. She ended up being my date for the night.

We spoke on and off since January. Daniela was available and setting up the rest was easy. Two hours later she was at my place. While she was on her way I asked what she wanted to eat. I ordered quickly from Rappi carne asada for her and whatever looked well from the same restaurant for me. I was in a rush because I was behind on a few things. She arrived. I had chris brown playing on TV. Daniela walks on and starts to sing along.

"These hoes ain't loyal.

These hoes ain't loyal;.

I smile widely LOL and ask her if she likes to sing. She nodded. I give her the remote and ask to find something she likes and sing. I like her voice. She keeps the distance. I feel she isn't much into me. She is a little taller than I am. I didn't expect that. So I gave her some space and just observed her singing, complimented her, and thought about how amazing those lips would look around my dick. Slowly I move closer and she opens up. We progress. She undresses to her undies. Fortunately, her boobs are nice, butt is nice and firm. Almost too firm. I don't know if that was muscle or what. The only negative was her stomach. She got a little extra fat on it. Keep reading and you will find out the likely reason haha.

5 minutes later the food arrived. From a chinese restaurant. Rappi tricked me hahaha. Oh well, it was carne asada and fried rice with 2 kinds of meat for me. I chose a small portion, but I received a huge load of fried rice. It filled THREE large dinner plates. I couldn't finish even one. I bet a lot of people don't go to chinese restaurants anymore and the restaurants don't know what to do with the food hahaha. Thanks Caronavirus. It has been maybe 10-15 minutes, but she has already finished a beer and asked for the second. By the time we finished eating, she was on the 3rd beer.

We make out. She opened up a little, but not really much. I'm horny. She feels it and starts to blow me. It feels good. At one point, she started to jerk off kind off hard. I asked her not to do it and she removed her hand. I came and she sucked everything out: the.

After she returned from the bathroom, she asked for another beer. There was more singing, another beer, I gave her massage, we talked, and we made out. After a while her pussy was still kinda dry. She asked for lube. I gave her that and motioned to get on top of me. She rides pretty well, even though it was rather mechanical. I'm not sure why I couldn't melt this girl. I put her in doggy and bangged her hard. I think she liked it more than riding haha. I came hard. She continued moving her body to squeeze out whatever was left in me. She showered and. Maybe you guessed it? She asked for another beer. 6-th fucking beer! It was the last Carona I had in my fridge. She asked one more to take home haha. I said bad luck. I was drinking a belgian beer that night. I had only 2 for the whole evening. This was the first time I saw a girl down so much beer.

She got her reward and left. 200 k.

I showered and passed out.

Thanks to AdventureSeekr for convincing me to start writing reports. If I didn't write this, I would forget all of it because it wasn't something special. However, that evening still had some good memories (e. G. "this hoes ain't loyal" and a ton fried rice haha). Now I will not forget them.

Feedback, comments, nasty remarks, all are welcome. I have thick skin.

Cheers!

Jr.

I Need real help guys. The apartment section doesn't get any play so I'm posting here. I Lost my job in California due to coronavirus. I want to move to Medellin and get a apartment for 4 to 6 months since this will probably be the only break I get until this virus thing blows over which will be a while. How Far away from Poblado do I have to live to get a cheap apartment but still be near all the action. I always hear you can get a apartment for 200 but I don't know where or how they look if it's true. Can people in the know help me on this one. What do you guys recommend for someone that's going down there for a extended stay and is on a budget.

What an amazing ending to your first trip this is bro! The trip is surely a success when one starts to plan the return while still has not left. I guess when I see you next time, it won't be Brazil, PR, but rather Medellin haha. Cheers!

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2433555]
She calls an Uber, I help her downstairs with 5 full bags of stuff, deep intense kisses goodbye. What a night. I'm sad to see her go and tell her that. More kisses, she tells me I am her novio. If I met her earlier in the trip, 100% I would have kept her for days and skipped all the other chicas I was hunting through. Well, that's how it goes and I could not have imagined a better ending.

I told her either she can come to me or I will be back as soon as I feel it is safe to travel again. I am hoping that is really damn soon.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2433805]I Need real help guys. The apartment section doesn't get any play so I'm posting here. I Lost my job in California due to coronavirus. I want to move to Medellin and get a apartment for 4 to 6 months since this will probably be the only break I get until this virus thing blows over which will be a while. How Far away from Poblado do I have to live to get a cheap apartment but still be near all the action. I always hear you can get a apartment for 200 but I don't know where or how they look if it's true. Can people in the know help me on this one. What do you guys recommend for someone that's going down there for a extended stay and is on a budget.[/QUOTE]Most of the action isn't in Poblado. With the metro it really doesn't matter where you stay.

You could possibly find an apartment for as low as 400 k. It will not be in a good neighborhood. It will not have any furniture. It will not have any hot water. You will probably have to pay for the 6 months in advance. I wouldn't recommend it.

Your best bet, if you want the cheapest place to stay is to look into a dorm room in a hostel. There are plenty of hostels in Poblado and Laureles.

The bad news, no home game. The good news, I'm finding rates of $100 per month.

Anyone on the ground, what's the situation? People going out? No panic / unrest?

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2433805]I Lost my job in California due to coronavirus. I want to move to Medellin and get a apartment for 4 to 6 months [/QUOTE]Have you checked the visa requirements first? Second, you do not even know if you will be allowed in the country in the next few days, weeks, or months with this corona thing going on.

I was there through last Sunday. Obviously, things change hourly. But as of last Sunday. Everything was normal. I do not remember seeing any signage in the airport. No screening. Chicas I know were not talking about it. It was business as usual. Obviously, at that time, there were no cases in Medellin. Since then, there have been a few. Curious to see how much things have changed in the past few days, if at all.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2433970]Anyone on the ground, what's the situation? People going out? No panic / unrest?[/QUOTE]

It was announced today that President Duque closed the border with Venezuela. Duque also barred entry by foreigners who have been in Asia or Europe in the past 14 days. Citizens who have been in Asia or Europe in the past 14 days will be allowed in but they are required to undergo a mandatory 14 day quarantine.

Entry from other locations is permitted but immigration requires pre-declaration of health status and travel history via its web site. I assume visitors are also allowed to declare upon arrival but of course that would involve a delay at the airport.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2433998]I was there through last Sunday. Obviously, things change hourly. But as of last Sunday. Everything was normal. I do not remember seeing any signage in the airport. No screening. Chicas I know were not talking about it. It was business as usual. Obviously, at that time, there were no cases in Medellin. Since then, there have been a few. Curious to see how much things have changed in the past few days, if at all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2433970]Anyone on the ground, what's the situation? People going out? No panic / unrest?[/QUOTE]Just left yesterday. Everything seemed relatively normal, no panic there at all. Coffee shop was full and bustling. In PR, stores have been shopped bare as a comparison. Chicas are definitely aware of it and pretty freaked out about getting it. The few I talk to regularly were telling me to wear gloves and a mask when traveling home. I've heard business is down from both chicas and uber drivers. I think its just at the point where panic will start to arrive there within a week or two.

There are plenty of hotels around Centro for US $25/ day and less. If it has to be an apartment, search airbnb and use google maps to get a feel for distances. There is lots of information on this website about airbnb apartments in Laureles. US $100/ month is going to be basic.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2433963]Most of the action isn't in Poblado. With the metro it really doesn't matter where you stay.

You could possibly find an apartment for as low as 400 k. It will not be in a good neighborhood. It will not have any furniture. It will not have any hot water. You will probably have to pay for the 6 months in advance. I wouldn't recommend it.

Your best bet, if you want the cheapest place to stay is to look into a dorm room in a hostel. There are plenty of hostels in Poblado and Laureles.

The bad news, no home game. The good news, I'm finding rates of $100 per month.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2433963]Most of the action isn't in Poblado. With the metro it really doesn't matter where you stay.

You could possibly find an apartment for as low as 400 k. It will not be in a good neighborhood. It will not have any furniture. It will not have any hot water. You will probably have to pay for the 6 months in advance. I wouldn't recommend it.

Your best bet, if you want the cheapest place to stay is to look into a dorm room in a hostel. There are plenty of hostels in Poblado and Laureles.

The bad news, no home game. The good news, I'm finding rates of $100 per month.[/QUOTE]Because of the Coronavirus, I'm flying out of here tomorrow while I can still get out "easily" back to California, and am not looking forward to it.

I have an apartment in Medellin, I could stock it up with supplies and not leave the premises for six months and am established here. So for a guy with no ties in Medellin who is thinking of staying in Medellin which is the topic being discussed, I wouldn't recommend that he even think of coming down here.

I posted earlier on my situation a few weeks ago and got some great feedback with most saying I should stay, but given the context of what has evolved with the Coronvirus, and what could occur here, mongering could almost come to a halt, with the closing of clubs, casa's, bars, and frightened Fay Boo Chicas refusing to see foreigners.

However I see an exception to this in El Centro, since the border with Venezuela has been shut down, I envision there will still be lots of desperate Venezuelans working and perhaps Colombians as well. It if you think it's a buyers market now, it's going to be better with desperate Chicas looking for clients, and given that the USD to COP exchange rate is at over 4,000 Pesos. However this in no way is a reason to stay, at least for me.

I suspect Colombia will shut down visitors from the USA shortly, Guatemala has, and once visitors from the USA are not allowed in, there may not be many flights out of the Country, let alone to any other Country.

I know Americans living here with no ties to the USA, meaning no homes, no businesses, no close family members, or children in the USA, who are staying in Medellin.

For mongers here now, I suggest you leave ASAP, and I know a lot of you may belittle me over this, but if you look at what's happening now in the USA, it could get very ugly here and quickly, but I hope not.

During the last two days I have been in El Centro, I have been in Parque Lleras, business as usual, more and more pretty darlings in El Centro, and I am leaving due to the ties I have in the USA which makes me sad. God only knows when and if this slice of "paradise" will exist in the near future.

I'm staying in parque Lleras and I noticed some of the casas are like 20-30 minutes away. Can I still find a girl in that area across from gustos during the day or are the casas my best bet for day game preferable something close.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2433963]Most of the action isn't in Poblado. With the metro it really doesn't matter where you stay.

You could possibly find an apartment for as low as 400 k. It will not be in a good neighborhood. It will not have any furniture. It will not have any hot water. You will probably have to pay for the 6 months in advance. I wouldn't recommend it.

Your best bet, if you want the cheapest place to stay is to look into a dorm room in a hostel. There are plenty of hostels in Poblado and Laureles.

The bad news, no home game. The good news, I'm finding rates of $100 per month.[/QUOTE]I want a apartment with hot water and furniture. How much would I pay for a normal studio with all creature comforts. Also if not Poblado where would you stay that's a good value. No way I'm bringing girls to a hostel. I didn't say it had to be 100 a month. Can I get something nice for 300 dollars. Also what does no home game mean.

I thought these Airbnb weren't good because they don't allow girls. BTW, you guys misunderstood. I'm not looking for bare bones place where the girls run out of there when they see it (hostels, no furniture, no hot water). How much should I expect to pay in the centro area for a apartment, with what you would expect at home? If you're not saving that much based on those requirements, what's the best 25.00 a night hotel in Centro that is girl friendly.

I appreciate the answer that I don't have to stay near Poblado. I thought that was a necessity. I've been to Medellin before but I stayed at the mansion which spoiled me I guess. If I get a hotel in centro will I be living like a king. Will the girls want to stay longer because it's a hotel.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2433805]I Need real help guys. The apartment section doesn't get any play so I'm posting here. I Lost my job in California due to coronavirus. I want to move to Medellin and get a apartment for 4 to 6 months since this will probably be the only break I get until this virus thing blows over which will be a while. How Far away from Poblado do I have to live to get a cheap apartment but still be near all the action. I always hear you can get a apartment for 200 but I don't know where or how they look if it's true. Can people in the know help me on this one. What do you guys recommend for someone that's going down there for a extended stay and is on a budget.[/QUOTE]I'd definitely hop on the Medellin Guru website and their Facebook page. They have a ton of information regarding places to stay and price comparisons. VISA requirements, Metro info, gun laws, etc. The folks over there are well versed in this kind of stuff.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2433682]Thanks Kenny, I recognize they are long and I get a lot of PMs thanking me for the detail. I know not everyone is literate, so I apologize to those folks who are slow readers LOL...[/QUOTE]I don't think people mind the long details and I personally enjoy the stories. I think what folks don't like is when there is a super long "report" that has no mention of anything helpful. It's just basically someone discussing what they did all day. No mention of places to visit or things to do. No mention or where not to go or prices of the chicas / contact info. I am at the point now where I can head out there and figure things out for myself. I have made some friends out there that can also help when I have a question so to me it does not matter. I do think the going back and forth on the same topic should be in the general info thread. Some guys get it and its much appreciated!

[QUOTE=SJobs;2432875]Never bothered to check, both Netflix and YouTube works fine when I tethered.[/QUOTE]I also get good speeds tethering, but I think videos will kill my data plan pretty quickly. I am buying the largest data plan I found: 2 Gb /15 days on Claro. Does Claro have a plan with more data?

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2434006]Just left yesterday. Everything seemed relatively normal, no panic there at all. Coffee shop was full and bustling. In PR, stores have been shopped bare as a comparison. Chicas are definitely aware of it and pretty freaked out about getting it. The few I talk to regularly were telling me to wear gloves and a mask when traveling home. I've heard business is down from both chicas and uber drivers. I think its just at the point where panic will start to arrive there within a week or two.[/QUOTE]Why do you assume that panic will arrive here in a week or two? Seems like you're being deliberately alarmist. There are only 23 cases in Colombia and 0 deaths today, from a population of 49 million! New holidaymakers aren't going to bother coming at the moment, and they've introduced stricter entry controls on peoples health, so why are you assuming there will be panic here ?

Unless you had to go back to Puerto Rico for your job or for other commitments, I really don't understand why you didn't stay here? Personally I prefer to wait out the virus here in lovely Colombia with all it's benefits, than rush back to where I live, where I have a much higher chance of catching the virus, where all restaurants and bars have been closed for 3 weeks from today, and where the media and everyone else seems to be panicking! Here where I am nobody seems very interested and hardly anybody is wearing a face mask. So stop the Corona virus panic hype please!

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2434087]Why do you assume that panic will arrive here in a week or two? Seems like you're being deliberately alarmist. There are only 23 cases in Colombia and 0 deaths today, from a population of 49 million! New holidaymakers aren't going to bother coming at the moment, and they've introduced stricter entry controls on peoples health, so why are you assuming there will be panic here ?

Unless you had to go back to Puerto Rico for your job or for other commitments, I really don't understand why you didn't stay here? Personally I prefer to wait out the virus here in lovely Colombia with all it's benefits, than rush back to where I live, where I have a much higher chance of catching the virus, where all restaurants and bars have been closed for 3 weeks from today, and where the media and everyone else seems to be panicking! Here where I am nobody seems very interested and hardly anybody is wearing a face mask. So stop the Corona virus panic hype please![/QUOTE]Wish I would have read this post earlier. Today I canceled my trip to Colombia. After hearing the US was targeting Cuba I got afraid. I don't mind being in the country but it would kill me to be targeted and quarantine for 14 days on a five day recon mission. I have a slightly noticeable chest congestion.

Spirit was giving full refunds credits.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2434087]Why do you assume that panic will arrive here in a week or two? Seems like you're being deliberately alarmist. There are only 23 cases in Colombia and 0 deaths today, from a population of 49 million! New holidaymakers aren't going to bother coming at the moment, and they've introduced stricter entry controls on peoples health, so why are you assuming there will be panic here ?

Unless you had to go back to Puerto Rico for your job or for other commitments, I really don't understand why you didn't stay here? Personally I prefer to wait out the virus here in lovely Colombia with all it's benefits, than rush back to where I live, where I have a much higher chance of catching the virus, where all restaurants and bars have been closed for 3 weeks from today, and where the media and everyone else seems to be panicking! Here where I am nobody seems very interested and hardly anybody is wearing a face mask. So stop the Corona virus panic hype please![/QUOTE]Dude,

No offense, but you really don't understand the seriousness of what's going on. Stay home! Everybody! The sooner everyone just stays home and stays away from each other for a few weeks the sooner we get back to what will be a new normal. Educate yourselves! Stay home and away from each other! Do not fly! Do not travel!

Google: center for infectious disease and research policy.

No panic, no drama. Just stay home. Stay away from each other for a few weeks --its the only responsible way to mitigate this.

There was none in Italy a month or so ago. There are now 21,150. There are 22 confirmed cases in Colombia now. But less than 1% of the population has been tested--that number is far larger and most don't know they have it and are spreading it.

Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of humans will be dead in 1 year from coronavirus covid-19 unless everyone just stays home for a few weeks. You have been warned!

[URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/URL]

Talking to a few of my chica friends in Medellin. A few are concerned about Corona virus, but more are bitching about the lack of "work" available because of it. If you are there, you have tremendous bargaining power at this point.

On another note (and I'm not posting this in the hotel thread, since few seem to read it). Be careful when renting an apartment. Obviously you want it to be girl friendly. However, when looking at some alternatives for my 3 week trip this summer, I looked at Blux (where I have stayed before) and Factory Lofts. The Blux units managed by Caracol indicate that you cannot have more people in the apartment than the max that is stated. For most of the one bedroom and studios, that's 2 people (you and one girl). For those of you who like trios. Or at least like to have more than one girl over to use the pool, etc. That will not be possible. For Factory Lofts, they allow 3 visitors PER STAY and no more than 1 at a time. I am staying 3 weeks, so 3 visitors is not going to cut it. Decided just to stay at my regular AirBnb for the entire time. As I can do what I want, as long as I don't make a lot of noise after 10.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2434087]Why do you assume that panic will arrive here in a week or two? Seems like you're being deliberately alarmist. There are only 23 cases in Colombia and 0 deaths today, from a population of 49 million! New holidaymakers aren't going to bother coming at the moment, and they've introduced stricter entry controls on peoples health, so why are you assuming there will be panic here ?

Unless you had to go back to Puerto Rico for your job or for other commitments, I really don't understand why you didn't stay here? Personally I prefer to wait out the virus here in lovely Colombia with all it's benefits, than rush back to where I live, where I have a much higher chance of catching the virus, where all restaurants and bars have been closed for 3 weeks from today, and where the media and everyone else seems to be panicking! Here where I am nobody seems very interested and hardly anybody is wearing a face mask. So stop the Corona virus panic hype please![/QUOTE]You answered your own question LOL Its simple math really. Italy had single digit cases 20 days ago. Now they are at 18,000 and the hospitals are over capacity. They've implemented "wartime protocols" and aren't accepting patients over 60, period. They have more ICU beds per 1 mm in population that the US or Colombia and are already overwhelmed, after starting lockdowns pretty quickly.

As you said, nobody in Colombia is doing anything. How do you think that is going to play out? You're argument or perspective is very limited in scope and short sighted. To tell me there are only 23 cases today is a red-herring and completely useless information. I only care about what it will look like in 15 and 30 days, and if you look at every other country that had cases earlier than South America, well then I don't even need to extrapolate, I already know the answer.

I'm not interested in panic. It seems the people who don't understand geometric growth are the ones concerned about panic. I am concerned with preparing for economic fallout, supply shortages of food and medicines, and the maxing out of the healthcare system. These are unavoidable symptoms of too many people getting sick all at the same time. It is already happening in other parts of the world. This isn't just my opinion, its already here.

I have a friend who is trapped in the Philippines. Just today they blocked all flights from leaving or arriving. The military is blocking all roads. You can't even travel by car to the nearest town. Go online and look at how many countries went into 100% lockdown today. At least 10. I have friends stranded in Europe because airlines are cancelling flights and the few that exist are full immediately.

I already answered this a week ago but I came back to PR because my house here is way nicer than my Airbnb in Colombia. I have health insurance here, I have animals to take care of. My pet sitter was not willing to continue coming for another 30-60 days nor will she be able to when lockdown happens in PR. They are already closing certain areas of the island. I have plenty of supplies, both medicine and food here. I have entertainment, video game systems, a full library of books. Isolating myself here is easy, it would be very uncomfortable to be do so in Colombia in comparison.

Honestly, your perspective is illogical. You think you have a greater chance of catching the virus in a place where everything is closed and there is less social interaction (your home) than in Colombia where no one is wearing a mask, there is a very large international population and you are engaging regularly with chicas who are engaging frequently with other foreigners? That makes no sense.

[QUOTE=MongerLoids;2434043]I'm staying in parque Lleras and I noticed some of the casas are like 20-30 minutes away. Can I still find a girl in that area across from gustos during the day or are the casas my best bet for day game preferable something close.[/QUOTE]Lleras is not anything during the day, all though I have walked through there during the day and seen some chicas that look like they might be looking for some action, there certainly is not a selection during the day. It is mostly dead, with a few people hanging out, socializing, reading etc just like any other public park. I posted these photos below because I did spot these two chicas there during day, the one was checking me out in a bad way, but seeing as how I am closer to being john goodman than say john legend, I was instinctively suspicious because one was laser focused on me like a predator to its prey, not like the usually glancing and smiling and playing coy prepagos I usually encounter. The vibe I got from them at the time was it was possible that if I had messed with these two, that if I had, say, hit these two up for a threeway, A) they might not have been of age. OR B) I might have woken / not up from with the after affects of scopolamine fogging up my brain. Of course I could be wrong, maybe they both had cedulas and I could have had a great time with them etc but at that moment they were just setting off my spider senses and I chose to evade them. I did not acknowledge their existence, I could see the one laser focused on me but I kept them in my peripheral. In fact the only reason I took this photo was to use the zoom to get a closer look at them without actually looking right at her., these here are zoomed in snips of the original and the quality of the photos is horrible because of being compressed so to upload here,

I think your instincts are good. I would not want to bre alone with the two of them.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2434120]Lleras is not anything during the day, all though I have walked through there during the day and seen some chicas that look like they might be looking for some action, there certainly is not a selection during the day. It is mostly dead, with a few people hanging out, socializing, reading etc just like any other public park. I posted these photos below because I did spot these two chicas there during day, the one was checking me out in a bad way, but seeing as how I am closer to being john goodman than say john legend, I was instinctively suspicious because one was laser focused on me like a predator to its prey, not like the usually glancing and smiling and playing coy prepagos I usually encounter. The vibe I got from them at the time was it was possible that if I had messed with these two, that if I had, say, hit these two up for a threeway, A) they might not have been of age. OR B) I might have woken / not up from with the after affects of scopolamine fogging up my brain. Of course I could be wrong, maybe they both had cedulas and I could have had a great time with them etc but at that moment they were just setting off my spider senses and I chose to evade them. I did not acknowledge their existence, I could see the one laser focused on me but I kept them in my peripheral. In fact the only reason I took this photo was to use the zoom to get a closer look at them without actually looking right at her., these here are zoomed in snips of the original and the quality of the photos is horrible because of being compressed so to upload here,[/QUOTE]

What is the situation in China and the rest of Asia at this time?

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2434117]You answered your own question LOL Its simple math really. Italy had single digit cases 20 days ago. Now they are at 18,000 and the hospitals are over capacity. They've implemented "wartime protocols" and aren't accepting patients over 60, period. They have more ICU beds per 1 mm in population that the US or Colombia and are already overwhelmed, after starting lockdowns pretty quickly.

As you said, nobody in Colombia is doing anything. How do you think that is going to play out? You're argument or perspective is very limited in scope and short sighted. To tell me there are only 23 cases today is a red-herring and completely useless information. I only care about what it will look like in 15 and 30 days, and if you look at every other country that had cases earlier than South America, well then I don't even need to extrapolate, I already know the answer.

I'm not interested in panic. It seems the people who don't understand geometric growth are the ones concerned about panic. I am concerned with preparing for economic fallout, supply shortages of food and medicines, and the maxing out of the healthcare system. These are unavoidable symptoms of too many people getting sick all at the same time. It is already happening in other parts of the world. This isn't just my opinion, its already here.

I have a friend who is trapped in the Philippines. Just today they blocked all flights from leaving or arriving. The military is blocking all roads. You can't even travel by car to the nearest town. Go online and look at how many countries went into 100% lockdown today. At least 10. I have friends stranded in Europe because airlines are cancelling flights and the few that exist are full immediately.[/QUOTE]

If you got a full refund it's no harm no foul. You can buy another ticket anytime you like, likely for a lower cost than was refunded to you.

The timing for this is not great for those of us who suffer from seasonal allergies. I have to remind myself every year that I don't have the flu in the spring and fall. The symptoms are very similar. It's amazing how quickly hay fever clears with a trip to the southwest US or a nighttime frost. I hope that's what you are feeling.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2434105]Wish I would have read this post earlier. Today I canceled my trip to Colombia. After hearing the US was targeting Cuba I got afraid. I don't mind being in the country but it would kill me to be targeted and quarantine for 14 days on a five day recon mission. I have a slightly noticeable chest congestion.

Spirit was giving full refunds credits.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2434003] Duque also barred entry by foreigners who have been in Asia or Europe in the past 14 days. Citizens who have been in Asia or Europe in the past 14 days will be allowed in but they are required to undergo a mandatory 14 day quarantine.[/QUOTE]Can you please clarify this, are you saying that all visitors from Asia or Europe are now banned from entering Colombia, and Colombian citizens can only enter the country after going through 14 days quarantine?

Where did you get this info? I don't see it on any of the Colombian Spanish language news websites. Are you sure it's accurate?

You don't deserve to be belittled about your decision. Everyone's situation is different. The situation is evolving quickly. I think there is more chatter about this because people based in the US (I would have said Europe also if flights weren't already barred) have unusual opportunities to be away from their workplaces and are weighing the risk vs the reward of watching CNN or BBC from their couches at home or possibly being stranded in Medellin. For most, that's what it boils down to. Family commitments, career, or God forbid health concerns can be considerations. Retirees who may need access to specific doctors don't probably want to risk being isolated. Everybody take care and stay well.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2434040]Because of the Coronavirus, I'm flying out of here tomorrow while I can still get out "easily" back to California, and am not looking forward to it.

I have an apartment in Medellin, I could stock it up with supplies and not leave the premises for six months and am established here. So for a guy with no ties in Medellin who is thinking of staying in Medellin which is the topic being discussed, I wouldn't recommend that he even think of coming down here.

I posted earlier on my situation a few weeks ago and got some great feedback with most saying I should stay, but given the context of what has evolved with the Coronvirus, and what could occur here, mongering could almost come to a halt, with the closing of clubs, casa's, bars, and frightened Fay Boo Chicas refusing to see foreigners..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2434066]BTW, you guys misunderstood. I'm not looking for bare bones place where the girls run out of there when they see it (hostels, no furniture, no hot water).[/QUOTE]Why would they run out? What kind of places do you think they live in if they are in casas fucking mfs for $6 a turn?

That being said, look online. Look in newspapers. Walk around and look for for rent signs. Places to live are not hard to find. How did you find the place you live in now?

I just put medellin aquiler into my browser and 800 million places popped up to rent same as it would for any other place one was looking to stay. Hell, I even added 800,000 to the search and it is only showing me places 800,000 pesos and below. Have you even tried?

P. S. Girls do not want to be with you longer because of where you are staying. They want to get their money and go back home, same as you do when you go to work. Nobody prefers to stay at work longer instead of going home because their office is nice.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2434129]Can you please clarify this, are you saying that all visitors from Asia or Europe are now banned from entering Colombia, and Colombian citizens can only enter the country after going through 14 days quarantine?

Where did you get this info? I don't see it on any of the Colombian Spanish language news websites. Are you sure it's accurate?[/QUOTE]This took all of 30 seconds to find.

[URL]https://colombiareports.com/coronavirus-colombia-to-close-borders-for-foreign-visitors-from-europe-and-asia/[/URL]

[URL]https://nationalpost.com/pmn/health-pmn/colombia-to-expel-four-european-visitors-for-violating-quarantine-2[/URL]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus/world-closes-borders-restricts-travel-to-contain-coronavirus-spread-idUSKBN2110AJ[/URL]

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2434129]Can you please clarify this, are you saying that all visitors from Asia or Europe are now banned from entering Colombia, and Colombian citizens can only enter the country after going through 14 days quarantine?

Where did you get this info? I don't see it on any of the Colombian Spanish language news websites. Are you sure it's accurate?[/QUOTE]
Here you go, English and Spanish

[URL]https://colombiareports.com/coronavirus-colombia-to-close-borders-for-foreign-visitors-from-europe-and-asia/[/URL]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldzeg88o3fg
https://www.larepublica.co/economia/cierran-frontera-con-venezuela-y-se-restringen-llegada-de-extranjeros-de-asia-y-europa-2977952

First of all, congrats on post 420.

Yeah I would definitely not be traveling right now. I'm definitely one of those people who worry less and I would've stayed but the bigger issue is getting stuck abroad when everything is shut down. They are closing all casas and brothels in Europe right now so it's only a matter of time until that hits Columbia too.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2434144][URL]https://colombiareports.com/coronavirus-colombia-to-close-borders-for-foreign-visitors-from-europe-and-asia/[/URL][/QUOTE]

Hope these aren't filled with nonsensical details, I just speak what's on my mind and this is what I got; past reports were inspired by thailand guru Florida Hawk, and I kind of just attempted to follow Adventureseekers lead.

The airbnb in laurelles I wanted was swiped, the other guest friendly places I saw weren't that appealing to me. I notice that the place I'm staying at is suddenly available the next 2 days. I hit up the owner and they say that they've canceled. I say I'm considering staying, what kind of deal could they give me, they lower the price 20% on airbnb, then the owner texts me directly and says if I pay cash they can do even better. They lower the rate another 20%, I'm like done. Immediately start hitting up the ones I've missed and decide I'm going to bring out my alternate alias Fukboy and go out pound town style. So start setting them up in 1 and 2 HR intervals. I blew off Tania yesterday for marcela so schedule her for 3, I am iffy on laurita as a bm told me she flaked on him twice, and she is also adamant about 1 HR, but I figured I'll play that game and just bang her brains out for an hour LOL, schedule her for 5, estefania for 6, then reach out to enlly who has been near impossible to get ahold of, as well as dane to knock out the top 10 I wanted to see. Daniela 1 says 7, and enlly says 10. Ok that gives me a good break. I haven't seen daniela 2 online for a few days so hit her up and tell her I might be interested in seeing her tonight (backup for enlly), do the same with yorli although she doesn't excite me that much. Also tell Marcela from day 1 that I could be interested in a TLN.

Go down to lleras to see my favorite barber from last time (fully endorse Edwin at LOS clasicos 3 if you want perfection and attention to detail). Get some Mondongo (first item of substance I've consumed since being here LOL) then decide to walk back to energy. Good times.

Tania tells me she is on the way at 250, and then later says her driver is lost. She finally gets here at 345 to which I am perturbed and ready to tell her to go back, but then I see her petite body with small see cups and a pretty face and cannot resist. She also tells me it's her birthday today to which I am taken aback and immediately go from being a jerk to being happy she's here. I told her via text I have a cita at 4 so she is almost moving quick to please me and I tell her lo siento, tranquila, tenemos tiempo. Fix her a drink, dance, and I am admiring her figure. Go to the room, man her freshly 19 yr old body is tight. Not much along the lines of a culo but she's solid. I wouldn't call what she gave me a BJ but rather her licking my tip LOL, then she gets on and rather than inserting up and down, just kind of grinds real hard to the pt where it's not all that pleasant. She's just inexperienced, I lift her up and lay her on the bed, grab the lube then enter via Mish. Man she is tight haha. I'm enjoying and look down and catch a whiff of seafood, ah come on man. Magically I do not go limp. She turns over and goes on all fours giving me some pov action to where I get a strong whiff again. Still erect but I don't know for how much long. It's about 445 and I just tell her to climb on top and slap her legs so she knows to get up on them then literally lift her up and down cowgirl until I finish. Shower, and a little small talk about where she's going for her bday and Yada Yada Yada, she calls the taxi and is out at 5. 200 mas taxi.

Laurita texts me that she has just entered poblado as Tania leaves and shows up at 505. You can tell from her photos that she's a natural beauty and I am mesmerized when I see her. To be honest I was expecting a tall girl with broad shoulders as she would appear that way in all her Facebook pictures with her shoulders turned. What I see is a natural beauty with minimal makeup and the stature of a model. Her demeanor is the exact opposite of what I expected as she is sweet and bubbly. Give her a beer, she asks for some baileys and dances on me a bit, she's a great kisser, I am totally digging her. I was so put off with her repeatedly saying una hora. Una hora. But I also started the conversation business like. My 6 pm estefania says she's getting in the cab, oh man why do I do this to myself. Laurita asks me to play the reggaeton songs that I like, and she serenades me to the 3 that I select then leads me to the bedroom. Man she is the full package, for having a baby, you'd have no idea by looking at her body. We are getting it on and I am just waiting for the speaker to stop playing music due to the facebook call or a knock in the door. Do the full allotment of positions and I finish in a very desired area (use your imagination). Then as we are laying there the doorbell dings and I tell him to tell her to give me 10 minutes (estefania is 10 minutes early). Laurita knows what's up, showers and gets dressed. I almost wanted to make a wise remark about only an hour as we both know she'd be staying longer if I didn't have the cita. She asks what I'm doing tomorrow, and I truthful tell her that I am down to meet at night to which she replies just let her know. 200 k mas taxi.

Estefania messages me asking if she should leave, I apologize and tell her to come up. She is definitely a head turner. I pickup on her MOJO, for anyone who's been to Thailand she carries herself like a Thai stunner who is the number one girl at a gogo like Palace. A tad into herself and could careless what you think of her. I totally dig it; don't get me wrong she is a very kind girl and surprised me with some very strong 2 si! She is taking selfies a the I just make it easier on her by asking she wants me to take her picture on the balcony. We ended up taking 60 some odd pictures and she spent about an hour going through them LOL. There wasn't a lot of dialogue to be honest, my mind started to wander after about the 4th rail of 2 si. We were both in our own worlds just listening to music and playing on our phones sipping our drinks and hitting the 2 si. I asked If she was hungry and ordered some wings, they come about an hour later. In the meantime I'm trying to find some alternates as it is obvious dane bailed (glad she did actually as I had her slated for 8) and it is looking like enlly will as well as she isn't answering my messages. I tell marcela from day 1 to plan on coming at 11. After much more tussi, some music, and eating, we go to the room, now I'll be honest that I wasn't feeling a lot of chemistry with estefania. I feel that if I lived here she'd so be more of a friend, no she would be the hired gun: the female friend who you bring out with you who helps you attract other females haha. For the first time in the trip I'm unable to finish, which is ridiculous with how hot she is, but as I mentioned I just wasn't feeling it, and the large dose of 2 si certainly wasn't helping. We just hung out a bit more and talked about music and get dressed, its 10 and I send a gentle nudge to marcela to get going. Estefania leaves at 1030, but the length of the date had nothing to do with me. As I mentioned, half the time was spent in our own worlds which is strange, but you can't vibe with everybody I guess. Another hour of that time was her taking selfies (I'd be confident to say that anyone who had her experienced this to some degree). 200 k mas taxi plus payment for the bomb 2 si. Disclaimer: I mentioned in my first report that estefania audibled on me changing what was agreed to which I did not like. I brought that up to her during our pillow talk and apologized for asking all those things and that it isn't my style really. I love the chase to be honest- JFK said the chase is better than the kill and I agree. Didn't put a pic of her up, look for the latest pic she posted sign the familiar backdrop if you want to see.

Marcela shows up and I give her the 2 si, man I've never seen anyone rip such large bumps. We use it all as I plan on weening off this stuff tomorrow. She asks if we can get the hot tub going which I'm happy to do as I have not been in it yet. Order some food and just relax. Only end up getting on it on once that night. Probably could've went again but end up passing out fairly early. As I mentioned her face isn't the greatest but she's a nice girl and kinda reminded me of a young Gina Lynn when we were sitting in the hot tub the other night. 300 k TLN.

I've already kept the option open with the airbnb for the same deal tomorrow and am thinking I might as well just stay vs head to Bogota. In the back of my head I said I'd let dates decide and have 3 setup. Decisions decisions.

We can probably agree the national newspaper El Colombiano is a Spanish language news website:

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/salud/cierran-frontera-y-restriccion-de-ingreso-a-extranjeros-DH12621828[/URL]

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2434129]Can you please clarify this, are you saying that all visitors from Asia or Europe are now banned from entering Colombia, and Colombian citizens can only enter the country after going through 14 days quarantine?

Where did you get this info? I don't see it on any of the Colombian Spanish language news websites. Are you sure it's accurate?[/QUOTE]

The getting stuck abroad idea confuses me. During the height of the original Wuhan outbreak foreigners were able, albeit with delays and difficulty, get repatriated from China. It's just as easy to watch videos on a sofa in Colombia as anywhere else. If news reports are to believed, many workplaces are requiring employees to stay away from the places of business. A lot of the public reaction confuses me, like the run on toilet paper at big box stores I read about. Does Coronavirus cause diarrhea or something?

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2434148]First of all, congrats on post 420.

Yeah I would definitely not be traveling right now. I'm definitely one of those people who worry less and I would've stayed but the bigger issue is getting stuck abroad when everything is shut down. They are closing all casas and brothels in Europe right now so it's only a matter of time until that hits Columbia too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2434105]Wish I would have read this post earlier. Today I canceled my trip to Colombia. After hearing the US was targeting Cuba I got afraid. I don't mind being in the country but it would kill me to be targeted and quarantine for 14 days on a five day recon mission. I have a slightly noticeable chest congestion.

Spirit was giving full refunds credits.[/QUOTE]You did the right thing in cancelling your trip here, Colombia will probably bar US Citizens by the end of next week the way things are going.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2434148]They are closing all casas and brothels in Europe right now so it's only a matter of time until that hits Columbia too.[/QUOTE]What does what is happening in Europe have to do with Colombia? I am in Thailand and it is business as usual as far as establishments being open. Nobody is saying Europe is doing such and such so we are going to do it too.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2434148]First of all, congrats on post 420.

Yeah I would definitely not be traveling right now. I'm definitely one of those people who worry less and I would've stayed but the bigger issue is getting stuck abroad when everything is shut down. They are closing all casas and brothels in Europe right now so it's only a matter of time until that hits Columbia too.[/QUOTE]Yep, things will be shutting down soon, but El Centro will still have all the desperate Venezuelans working is my bet, but not a reason to stay, but if you get stuck here, it will be a buyers market for sure!

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2434066]I thought these Airbnb weren't good because they don't allow girls. BTW, you guys misunderstood. I'm not looking for bare bones place where the girls run out of there when they see it (hostels, no furniture, no hot water). How much should I expect to pay in the centro area for a apartment, with what you would expect at home? If you're not saving that much based on those requirements, what's the best 25.00 a night hotel in Centro that is girl friendly.

I appreciate the answer that I don't have to stay near Poblado. I thought that was a necessity. I've been to Medellin before but I stayed at the mansion which spoiled me I guess. If I get a hotel in centro will I be living like a king. Will the girls want to stay longer because it's a hotel.[/QUOTE]You can check the price of Hotel Botero.

Maybe it is better you look for a place after you arrive.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2434117]You answered your own question LOL Its simple math really. Italy had single digit cases 20 days ago. Now they are at 18,000 and the hospitals are over capacity. They've implemented "wartime protocols" and aren't accepting patients over 60, period. They have more ICU beds per 1 mm in population that the US or Colombia and are already overwhelmed, after starting lockdowns pretty quickly.

As you said, nobody in Colombia is doing anything. How do you think that is going to play out? You're argument or perspective is very limited in scope and short sighted. To tell me there are only 23 cases today is a red-herring and completely useless information. I only care about what it will look like in 15 and 30 days, and if you look at every other country that had cases earlier than South America, well then I don't even need to extrapolate, I already know the answer.

I'm not interested in panic. It seems the people who don't understand geometric growth are the ones concerned about panic. I am concerned with preparing for economic fallout, supply shortages of food and medicines, and the maxing out of the healthcare system. These are unavoidable symptoms of too many people getting sick all at the same time. It is already happening in other parts of the world. This isn't just my opinion, its already here.

I have a friend who is trapped in the Philippines. Just today they blocked all flights from leaving or arriving. The military is blocking all roads. You can't even travel by car to the nearest town. Go online and look at how many countries went into 100% lockdown today. At least 10. I have friends stranded in Europe because airlines are cancelling flights and the few that exist are full immediately.

I already answered this a week ago but I came back to PR because my house here is way nicer than my Airbnb in Colombia. I have health insurance here, I have animals to take care of. My pet sitter was not willing to continue coming for another 30-60 days nor will she be able to when lockdown happens in PR. They are already closing certain areas of the island. I have plenty of supplies, both medicine and food here. I have entertainment, video game systems, a full library of books. Isolating myself here is easy, it would be very uncomfortable to be do so in Colombia in comparison.

Honestly, your perspective is illogical. You think you have a greater chance of catching the virus in a place where everything is closed and there is less social interaction (your home) than in Colombia where no one is wearing a mask, there is a very large international population and you are engaging regularly with chicas who are engaging frequently with other foreigners? That makes no sense.[/QUOTE]
Why do you assume it will hit every country just as hard? Colombia is no further from China than Europe, so why has it hit Europe much harder than here? Because of the massive movement of people to and between those countries, because there are no borders at all between the Schengen countries in Europe, and because more people get sick in winter weather. The amount of international arrivals here is a trickle in comparison to Europe. And no two countries are the same, France and Germany have both almost 5000 cases each but 91 deaths in France and only 9 in Germany, 10 times as many ! So why is that if it's just about geometrics ?

And what does it matter how good your healthcare insurance is? If you've read about corona virus you would know that the only medication against it is your own immune system and rest. And I'm sure that my immune system is much better and stronger relaxing in a warm climate eating well than in a colder one, with the stresses of daily life plus the added stress of 24/7 western media panic about the virus. In fact, I was just chatting to a buddy of mine who is a leading medical professor at a North American university and he pointed out that it's not affecting the tropics so much. Look at the map, there aren't many cases in South America or Africa, are there? And very few deaths from it in the tropics at all! Including places close to China (Thailand and Singapore for example). And people are watching the news and following advice here just as in other countries, they aren't being reckless or burying their heads in the sand.

And maybe I'm just not as worried about catching it as you are. You seem to be paranoid about getting it! You could die crossing the road in Medellin, there are risks in life! ! And if you're not elderly or have medical preconditions, your chances of it being fatal are very slim! I don't want to isolate myself away with books and video games like you, I prefer to enjoy my life! Be a survivalist if you want.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2434117]
I have a friend who is trapped in the Philippines. Just today they blocked all flights from leaving or arriving. The military is blocking all roads. You can't even travel by car to the nearest town. Go online and look at how many countries went into 100% lockdown today. At least 10. I have friends stranded in Europe because airlines are cancelling flights and the few that exist are full immediately.[/QUOTE]I read that it is only the capital that is blocked.

Italy and Korea have two different approaches. Italy has an older population. There are many reports comparing these two countries that are interesting to read.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2434144]Here you go, English and Spanish

[URL]https://colombiareports.com/coronavirus-colombia-to-close-borders-for-foreign-visitors-from-europe-and-asia/[/URL]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldzeg88o3fg
https://www.larepublica.co/economia/cierran-frontera-con-venezuela-y-se-restringen-llegada-de-extranjeros-de-asia-y-europa-2977952[/QUOTE]

Thanks, Colombian reports says that foreign residents traveling from Europe and Asia will be obliged to isolate themselves for 14 days after arrival and will be monitored, whereas La Republica says these visitors will be 'restricted', so nowhere does it say they will be 'barred'. So please don't be alarmist guys.

Re. the Spanish visitor who was expelled because he had violated the compulsory self-isolation order, I suppose they are now tracking new arrivals? How I wonder? I suppose it might not be a bad idea to carry around a copy of the stamp from my passport showing that I've been in the country now for 3 weeks? This evening a taxi driver asked me where I was from and how long I've been here, before I wouldn't have wondered why they asked and just put it down to friendly curiosity, but thinking about it maybe he was thinking about this issue ?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2434132]Why would they run out? What kind of places do you think they live in if they are in casas fucking mfs for $6 a turn?

That being said, look online. Look in newspapers. Walk around and look for for rent signs. Places to live are not hard to find. How did you find the place you live in now?

I just put medellin aquiler into my browser and 800 million places popped up to rent same as it would for any other place one was looking to stay. Hell, I even added 800,000 to the search and it is only showing me places 800,000 pesos and below. Have you even tried?

P. S. Girls do not want to be with you longer because of where you are staying. They want to get their money and go back home, same as you do when you go to work. Nobody prefers to stay at work longer instead of going home because their office is nice.[/QUOTE]I have to disagree. When I stay at hotel Ticuan and Tijuana, I have had more girls just want to crash there then when I stay at a smaller cheaper room. They are all 1 hour dates. Depends on if they have a house or a dumpy apartment with no hot water and tiny shower. I know you been mongering a long time so I'm surprised you don't think a nice pad will help with the P4P.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2434115]Dude,

No offense, but you really don't understand the seriousness of what's going on. Stay home! Everybody! The sooner everyone just stays home and stays away from each other for a few weeks the sooner we get back to what will be a new normal. Educate yourselves! Stay home and away from each other! Do not fly! Do not travel!

Google: center for infectious disease and research policy.

No panic, no drama. Just stay home. Stay away from each other for a few weeks --its the only responsible way to mitigate this.

There was none in Italy a month or so ago. There are now 21,150. There are 22 confirmed cases in Colombia now. But less than 1% of the population has been tested--that number is far larger and most don't know they have it and are spreading it.

Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of humans will be dead in 1 year from coronavirus covid-19 unless everyone just stays home for a few weeks. You have been warned!

[URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm already here dude! Don't be paranoid! Should I rush off back to Belgium, is that your advice? How many % of the Italian population have been tested, do you know? And don't forget that Italy has one of the oldest populations and Europe, which accounts for most of the fatalities there too.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2434170]You can check the price of Hotel Botero.

Maybe it is better you look for a place after you arrive.[/QUOTE]Nounce, thanks for hotel bolero. That's exactly what I'm looking for, and the price is perfect. I will be booking my flight now and probably stay 2 weeks. Its in centro. Isn't that where most of the casas are hopefully I will have a nice trip report when I get back to return the favor.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2434160]The getting stuck abroad idea confuses me. During the height of the original Wuhan outbreak foreigners were able, albeit with delays and difficulty, get repatriated from China. It's just as easy to watch videos on a sofa in Colombia as anywhere else. If news reports are to believed, many workplaces are requiring employees to stay away from the places of business. A lot of the public reaction confuses me, like the run on toilet paper at big box stores I read about. Does Coronavirus cause diarrhea or something?[/QUOTE]In a roundabout way it causes diarrhea. Too many people have no clue, they don't know what to do, so they shit themselves.

Well guys I booked my flight to Medellin. I got the coronavirus discount on spirit for 170 from the west coast. I have never seen flights that cheap. I checked the flights before the virus and they were 600.00.

My question is ranking best P4P. If you were to rank the best way to get hot girls at the best value, how would you rank them in order: casas, strip clubs, gusto, SA, Tinder, and escort sites.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2434170]You can check the price of Hotel Botero.

Maybe it is better you look for a place after you arrive.[/QUOTE]I don't feel you need to live in centro to get to centro. Laureles has quite a few casas, spas and many prepagos. Really safe and active area to stay. Centro is a 10 minute drive, $2 taxi ride. Take it from me though, the street Walker action and sorting through the grime is not worth the many laps necessary to find something, but it is entertaining to visit and good local food. New life and other casa, strip clubs. Casas in the area might be a better chase. Only been to new life and highly recommended it. Keep in mind people love to say they have been with 7's and 10's. If you find one on the streets of centro please call me LOL. You find 7's and 10's, at la Isla, false dos, gustos, Lleras park, walking the streets in residential areas, and places similar to those venues. 17 days here and that's my limited experience and take on a few things.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2434040]Because of the Coronavirus, I'm flying out of here tomorrow while I can still get out "easily" back to California, and am not looking forward to it.

I have an apartment in Medellin, I could stock it up with supplies and not leave the premises for six months and am established here. So for a guy with no ties in Medellin who is thinking of staying in Medellin which is the topic being discussed, I wouldn't recommend that he even think of coming down here.

I posted earlier on my situation a few weeks ago and got some great feedback with most saying I should stay, but given the context of what has evolved with the Coronvirus, and what could occur here, mongering could almost come to a halt, with the closing of clubs, casa's, bars, and frightened Fay Boo Chicas refusing to see foreigners.

However I see an exception to this in El Centro, since the border with Venezuela has been shut down, I envision there will still be lots of desperate Venezuelans working and perhaps Colombians as well. It if you think it's a buyers market now, it's going to be better with desperate Chicas looking for clients, and given that the USD to COP exchange rate is at over 4,000 Pesos. However this in no way is a reason to stay, at least for me..[/QUOTE]Man,

I'm planing to go to Medellin in the next a few weeks. I don't have much concern about the coronavirus, the risk is too low for people in my age group, this is a chance I'm willing to take. I expect gusto, la isla, and paradise to shutdown; I have lined up my favorite fb girls, I don't plan to try new girls while I'm there. I think 12 fb girl rotation is sufficient for a two-week stay.

I believe they will always let US citizens back to the US. The way I see it, if I don't come to Medellin now, the Colombia government might start a travel ban to the US. For me, life as I knew it would be over if I can't have overnight threesomes with 18 year olds paisas for more than 4 months. I wish people who decided to cancel their trips to Medellin cancel their Airbnb quickly.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2434186]I'm already here dude! Don't be paranoid! Should I rush off back to Belgium, is that your advice? How many % of the Italian population have been tested, do you know? And don't forget that Italy has one of the oldest populations and Europe, which accounts for most of the fatalities there too.[/QUOTE]If you have the means I think I would stay in Colombia for sure. I saw one poster who tried to infer that it would travel to Colombia at the same rate and speed that it did the US. I cannot agree with this, sure Colombia gets tourists from all over, but it would be ridiculous to compare the number of people coming into the USA to Colombia. The USA is the largest economy in the world and home to numerous multi-national companies, many of which have manufacturing facilities in China. Not to mention all the large conventions centers that bring people from around the world.

In the USA we have not had the tests widely available nor widely administered so it is irresponsible for the press to report how many cases there are without saying everytime they do say how many "confirmed cases" that this could be and probably is the tip of the iceberg and we cannot know until we test enough people. If it we did have actual numbers because we had adequate tests done to at get statistically significant numbers and they were close to what the reported cases are now. A very unlikely chance. Then I put on an N95 respirator mask and I would be on a plane to Colombia myself.

If I was you I would not get on a plane, a bus, or a ship, or any other mass transportation system.

This sis certainly not directed at any poster or reader but everyone needs to consider this. I have talked to a number of people who are not taking this thing serious enough, I am not a disease expert but I was a nursing student and had to study microbiology with a focus on prevention of spreading disease. It seems hard for people to grasp, but all the idiots who "throw caution to the wind" thinking they are so "brave" and ignoring the recommendations are the ones who become mindless vectors of the disease. Carriers - transmitters of the disease. They can cough politely into their sleeve but then scratch and itch on their face and then push an elevator button, or a door handle and the 70 year old / or the 70 year old man's maid touches it also and takes it back the 70 year old man. Meanwhile the mindless vector is completely unaware that they are literally killing people.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2434291]It seems hard for people to grasp, but all the idiots who "throw caution to the wind" thinking they are so "brave" and ignoring the recommendations are the ones who become mindless vectors of the disease. Carriers - transmitters of the disease. They can cough politely into their sleeve but then scratch and itch on their face and then push an elevator button, or a door handle and the 70 year old / or the 70 year old man's maid touches it also and takes it back the 70 year old man. Meanwhile the mindless vector is completely unaware that they are literally killing people.[/QUOTE]Mojo gets it.

I'm just trying to figure out who is the doctor on the board, because many people can go to Google and Google information even medical personnel can Google information but if you're not a doctor who can diagnose assess evaluate and treat what it is that you're retrieving from Google you're just like other people causing much more panic. I need a Dr who has contracted Covid 19 to confirm or deny all the Google diagnosis that BMs are spreading across the board! Then again, the cockiness & arrogance mixed with all of the BS, many board members wouldn't trust a legit Dr, pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2434174]Why do you assume it will hit every country just as hard? Colombia is no further from China than Europe, so why has it hit Europe much harder than here? Because of the massive movement of people to and between those countries, because there are no borders at all between the Schengen countries in Europe, and because more people get sick in winter weather. The amount of international arrivals here is a trickle in comparison to Europe. And no two countries are the same, France and Germany have both almost 5000 cases each but 91 deaths in France and only 9 in Germany, 10 times as many ! So why is that if it's just about geometrics ?

And what does it matter how good your healthcare insurance is? If you've read about corona virus you would know that the only medication against it is your own immune system and rest. And I'm sure that my immune system is much better and stronger relaxing in a warm climate eating well than in a colder one, with the stresses of daily life plus the added stress of 24/7 western media panic about the virus. In fact, I was just chatting to a buddy of mine who is a leading medical professor at a North American university and he pointed out that it's not affecting the tropics so much. Look at the map, there aren't many cases in South America or Africa, are there? And very few deaths from it in the tropics at all! Including places close to China (Thailand and Singapore for example). And people are watching the news and following advice here just as in other countries, they aren't being reckless or burying their heads in the sand.

And maybe I'm just not as worried about catching it as you are. You seem to be paranoid about getting it! You could die crossing the road in Medellin, there are risks in life! ! And if you're not elderly or have medical preconditions, your chances of it being fatal are very slim! I don't want to isolate myself away with books and video games like you, I prefer to enjoy my life! Be a survivalist if you want.[/QUOTE]I'm not assuming anything, once it is there, it will grow exponentially simply because of its R0 factor. Yes, it took longer to arrive there but it is there now, so we will see the numbers grow quickly, or as quickly as testing is done, as that its the bottleneck. The countries that are performing the most testing, are the ones with the highest rates of infection. Just because some countries either don't have tests or have a high bar to qualify for testing doesn't mean they have low numbers of infection. Sorry to say, you are the one making many assumptions and not looking at ANY of the studies on this, which is obvious from your statements.

[URL]https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/why-experts-doubt-warm-weather-will-slow-coronavirus-spread.html[/URL]

Why arent there many cases in SA and Africa? There are cases, so now you're just making stuff up to fit your own mental narrative. One third of African countries have reported cases as of two days ago. The medical community has been especially concerned for Africa because of its inability to handle epidemics. I keep saying it and you keep ignoring it, its not that there ARENT cases, it is because they dont have the protocols in place and they do not have tests. The answer youre looking for is TESTING. You have a false sense of how many cases exist because of LACK OF TESTING.

[URL]https://globalnews.ca/news/6676099/coronavirus-africa-cases-rise/[/URL]

Thailand hasn't been testing. BUT they have had an exponential increase in "viral pneumonia" Coincidence?

[URL]https://nucleuswealth.com/articles/is-thailand-hiding-covid-19-cases/[/URL]

Your other points are simply idiotic. Yes, you can die in myriad of ways. But you chances of getting hit by a car don't double every day over and over. Do they? I am not paranoid about getting it because I am in my house, with a massive private terrace, with views, in Puerto Rico, in a warmer and more humid climate than Colombia. I would be far more concerned getting it being in an international travel destination, smashing chicas everyday who are frequently around other international travelers. That is obviously high risk behavior.

Why do I care about healthcare? Do I even need to answer that? Because half of the hospitalized cases in Spain are under 50. Many doctors have posted from Italy saying that their ICU is over capacity with people UNDER 60. I would prefer to be in the US than Colombia IF I were to get it. I am doing everything I can to mitigate that. As Mojo said, the young and healthy idiots who are going around like normal and luckily many do not have symptoms, but they are carriers and you are putting other people at risk. Clearly, you have no regard for other people and their health.

France and Spain just went full lockdown. I rather be in my own house than locked in an Airbnb. If you don't think Colombia will follow suit on this, you're being incredibly thick headed.

[URL]https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/coronavirus-pandemic-worldwide-death-toll-surges-5000-200313233453162.[/URL]

Html [URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51888936[/URL].

[URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/09/europe/coronavirus-italy-lockdown-intl/index.html[/URL]

As Incognito said, if everyone practiced social distancing for 30 days, the rates would drop significantly and everything could go back to normal. But there are too many people like yourself who are selfish and don't understand math, or clearly even able to read and just ask stupid questions on public forums and are the reason this will go on for many months. Do you think I want to isolate myself for 30 days? No of course not but its a small inconvenience to save lives of my elderly neighbors and to help bring down the infection rate.

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2434180]Thanks, Colombian reports says that foreign residents traveling from Europe and Asia will be obliged to isolate themselves for 14 days after arrival and will be monitored, whereas La Republica says these visitors will be 'restricted', so nowhere does it say they will be 'barred'. So please don't be alarmist guys.

Re. the Spanish visitor who was expelled because he had violated the compulsory self-isolation order, I suppose they are now tracking new arrivals? How I wonder? I suppose it might not be a bad idea to carry around a copy of the stamp from my passport showing that I've been in the country now for 3 weeks? This evening a taxi driver asked me where I was from and how long I've been here, before I wouldn't have wondered why they asked and just put it down to friendly curiosity, but thinking about it maybe he was thinking about this issue ?[/QUOTE]I'm really trying not to be mean here but jesus christ bro. You're having some serious cognitive dissonance. What do you think restrict means? "deprive (someone or something) of freedom of movement or action. ".

"The closure of the border with Venezuela and the restriction of the entry of foreigners who were or made transit through Asia and Europe were the decisions announced by the president, Iváand Duque, at 10:15 pm this Friday. ".

"Colombians who made transit through these two continents must reach mandatory isolation, preventively for 14 days. ".

This clearly says they are not allowing the entry of foreigners from Asia and Europe.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2434312]I'm really trying not to be mean here but jesus christ bro. You're having some serious cognitive dissonance. What do you think restrict means? "deprive (someone or something) of freedom of movement or action. ".

"The closure of the border with Venezuela and the restriction of the entry of foreigners who were or made transit through Asia and Europe were the decisions announced by the president, Ivand Duque, at 10:15 pm this Friday. ".

"Colombians who made transit through these two continents must reach mandatory isolation, preventively for 14 days. ".

This clearly says they are not allowing the entry of foreigners from Asia and Europe.[/QUOTE]Does it get any clearer than this?:

[URL]https://colombiareports.com/coronavirus-colombia-to-close-borders-for-foreign-visitors-from-europe-and-asia/[/URL]
Link posted previously by Mojo.

The first paragraph says “ban”.

I was literally in process of booking my next (2nd) trip to MDE and you all talked me out of it. LOL I don't say that critically. Personally, I tend to lean to the "we're overreacting" line of thought. Admittedly, I have no germ education. I think there are some fair points made here. The thing I can't get past is the lack of testing. We are looking at these infection numbers and reacting to that. As someone else pointed out, that is confirmed cases. If this is as contagious as they say, the number is infinitely higher. I say this not as an alarmist. Just the opposite, actually. I totally agree about the comment of mindless vectors. But who dies of old age? I'm not quite at the most at risk group as far as age. But I don't walk around in fear of the flu. Or pneumonia.

I find it somewhat ironic that we participate in a generally risky behavior yet it's a germ that is shutting this industry down. I do not look poorly at anyone. We all have to make the right decisions for ourselves.

In the end, the border issues scare me. I'm not really in a position to be quarantined in a foreign country. Who is, right? But the comments here have sufficiently scared me of the travel nightmare that may happen.

American Airlines just announced the cancellation of all flights to and from Colombia beginning on about March 16, until May 6th.

Actually it's not just Colombia, but most of South America, including my beloved Rio de Janeiro.

Stay home guys.

Though in the words of General MacArthur, "I shall return".

I just flew from Medellin to Bogota and arrived at 9 AM and went thru immigration / security and there were no lines, as I have a 12 PM flight to LOS Angeles in business class I went into the Avianca Lounge which has two sides, one regular and one diamond class. When I got to the entrance it appeared closed, but wasn't, and there was one attendant who said I could use either side while waiting for my flight. I walked into the Diamond side and there weren't more than about five people. At this point I decided to take my N95 respirator mask off and looked around and at the regular side as well. I had never seen this place so empty all the times I had flown thru Bogota and went and talked with the attendant, she said normally on a Sunday at 9 AM there would be at least 100 people in the lounges.

On Saturday I spent three blissful hours in El Centro with one of my darlings, my mouth was watering on the flight from Medellin to Bogota as to how sexy and beautiful two of the flight attendants were, and now I am going to be arriving into a firestorm and God knows when I can return to Colombia.

Lots of bantering back and forth about the CoronaVirus, and it's serious beyond belief based on the facts and number. I previously posted that if your not established in Colombia you should get out ASAP. I am established in Colombia and could of easily stayed but am getting out. Colombia will be shutting it's borders down to more and more Countries along with the USA very soon, and although I am an American, and not happy with the delay our Government took to take action, I believe Colombia versus the USA is less better equipped to handle massive community spread of the virus if it occurs, along with the potential for civil unrest.

You can enter via another country with EU passport if you can demonstrate you have not been in EU / Asia in last 14 days.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2434342]American Airlines just announced the cancellation of all flights to and from Colombia beginning on about March 16, until May 6th.

Actually it's not just Colombia, but most of South America, including my beloved Rio de Janeiro.

Stay home guys.

Though in the words of General MacArthur, "I shall return".[/QUOTE]That's curious. I was booking a flight this morning without a problem. I just tried again and flights are showing available.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2434366]That's curious. I was booking a flight this morning without a problem. I just tried again and flights are showing available.[/QUOTE]I have been waiting to book and just got a notice of a big price drop. My opinion is, they'll still let you book and take your money, even though the flight will be cancelled.

If they don't let you book now, you might choose another airline later. Once they have your money, they have leverage. More importantly, they are still bringing in revenue while their costs are dropping.

Looks like my April trip is getting postponed.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2432898] I really like BBFS (let's avoid the debate on this) and had it with all of them but 1.and she was a new pro (to me), so I thought using a condom was best given I did not know her or trust her. [/QUOTE]So the rest of them you trust 😂? Good for you. The fact that your Dr. in the states confirmed no HIV or syphilis, doesn't mean you don't have a STD. Just wait till your immune system weakens and see. Sorry I sound mean. I really hope I'm wrong and all your girls are 100% healthy.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2434062]I want a apartment with hot water and furniture. How much would I pay for a normal studio with all creature comforts. Also if not Poblado where would you stay that's a good value. No way I'm bringing girls to a hostel. I didn't say it had to be 100 a month. Can I get something nice for 300 dollars. Also what does no home game mean.[/QUOTE]No home game means you can't bring a girl back to a shared dorm room at a hostel.

Here's some helpful advice, not just for you, for everyone:

If you're asking about doing something, lay out as much information as you can. What are your priorities, in order? What is your real budget? What are your tolerances?

Your first request just mentioned a low price. If that's your primary concern, a hostel is tough to beat. If mongering is your primary concern, spend $2000-$3000 per month for a serious shag pad. Girls will be lining up to come see you.

I just found a furnished apt in Laureles, 900 k per month, but it's only 161 ft². Small hotel room size. Minimal everything and furniture looks sad. There are other options, but how well are you going to tolerate a neighborhood like Buenos Aires? Or Popular?

The trouble is, you're looking for US style living on a Colombian budget. The Colombians paying $200-$300 monthly for rent don't have hot water. They have a stovetop but no oven. Their furniture is cheap and uncomfortable. No washing machine. Instead there's a sink, with a built-in scrub board.

If you want gringo standards, you need to pay gringo prices.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2434258]I don't feel you need to live in centro to get to centro. Laureles has quite a few casas, spas and many prepagos. Really safe and active area to stay. Centro is a 10 minute drive, $2 taxi ride. Take it from me though, the street Walker action and sorting through the grime is not worth the many laps necessary to find something, but it is entertaining to visit and good local food. New life and other casa, strip clubs. Casas in the area might be a better chase. Only been to new life and highly recommended it. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2434066]what's the best 25.00 a night hotel in Centro that is girl friendly.
[/QUOTE]I answered a specific question he asked.


[QUOTE=Blakman;2434258]Keep in mind people love to say they have been with 7's and 10's. If you find one on the streets of centro please call me LOL. You find 7's and 10's, at la Isla, false dos, gustos, Lleras park, walking the streets in residential areas, and places similar to those venues. 17 days here and that's my limited experience and take on a few things.[/QUOTE]People are also saying the the girls who work at El Centro also work at Lleras park.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2434342]American Airlines just announced the cancellation of all flights to and from Colombia beginning on about March 16, until May 6th.

Actually it's not just Colombia, but most of South America, including my beloved Rio de Janeiro.

Stay home guys.

Though in the words of General MacArthur, "I shall return".[/QUOTE]I just grabbed this from the American Airlines website. Here's a list of South American destinations affected.

If you are not a permanent resident or a citizen you will not be allowed in after today. If you are already here or arriving today viva and avianca are operating without interruption through May when the US carriers are scheduled to resume operations.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2434290]Man,
I'm planing to go to Medellin in the next a few weeks. I don't have much concern about the coronavirus, the risk is too low for people in my age group, this is a chance I'm willing to take. I expect gusto, la isla, and paradise to shutdown; I have lined up my favorite fb girls, I don't plan to try new girls while I'm there. I think 12 fb girl rotation is sufficient for a two-week stay.

I believe they will always let US citizens back to the US. The way I see it, if I don't come to Medellin now, the Colombia government might start a travel ban to the US. For me, life as I knew it would be over if I can't have overnight threesomes with 18 year olds paisas for more than 4 months. I wish people who decided to cancel their trips to Medellin cancel their Airbnb quickly.[/QUOTE]

You made the right decision for you. I will be busy the next couple of weeks but I will try to share some Intel time permitting.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2434354]I just flew from Medellin to Bogota and arrived at 9 AM and went thru immigration / security and there were no lines, as I have a 12 PM flight to LOS Angeles in business class I went into the Avianca Lounge which has two sides, one regular and one diamond class. When I got to the entrance it appeared closed, but wasn't, and there was one attendant who said I could use either side while waiting for my flight. I walked into the Diamond side and there weren't more than about five people. At this point I decided to take my N95 respirator mask off and looked around and at the regular side as well. I had never seen this place so empty all the times I had flown thru Bogota and went and talked with the attendant, she said normally on a Sunday at 9 AM there would be at least 100 people in the lounges.

On Saturday I spent three blissful hours in El Centro with one of my darlings, my mouth was watering on the flight from Medellin to Bogota as to how sexy and beautiful two of the flight attendants were, and now I am going to be arriving into a firestorm and God knows when I can return to Colombia.

Lots of bantering back and forth about the CoronaVirus, and it's serious beyond belief based on the facts and number. I previously posted that if your not established in Colombia you should get out ASAP. I am established in Colombia and could of easily stayed but am getting out. Colombia will be shutting it's borders down to more and more Countries along with the USA very soon, and although I am an American, and not happy with the delay our Government took to take action, I believe Colombia versus the USA is less better equipped to handle massive community spread of the virus if it occurs, along with the potential for civil unrest.[/QUOTE]

I talked to a guy who was on an American flight from Miami today. They announced the schedule change after boarding all passengers. He is coming later. I helped him book am Avianca return for next week. Of course it could get cancelled. Guys, there is no treatment for Coronavirus. That means the Colombian treatment is no better or worse than any other, which is nothing more than waiting and hoping. If you have other health problems my advice is stay close to your doctors.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2434342]American Airlines just announced the cancellation of all flights to and from Colombia beginning on about March 16, until May 6th.

Actually it's not just Colombia, but most of South America, including my beloved Rio de Janeiro.

Stay home guys.

Though in the words of General MacArthur, "I shall return".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2434291]

[B]If I was you I would not get on a plane, a bus, or a ship, or any other mass transportation system.[/B]

This sis certainly not directed at any poster or reader but everyone needs to consider this. I have talked to a number of people who are not taking this thing serious enough, I am not a disease expert but I was a nursing student and had to study microbiology with a focus on prevention of spreading disease. It seems hard for people to grasp, but all the idiots who "throw caution to the wind" thinking they are so "brave" and ignoring the recommendations are the ones who become mindless vectors of the disease. Carriers - transmitters of the disease. They can cough politely into their sleeve but then scratch and itch on their face and then push an elevator button, or a door handle and the 70 year old / or the 70 year old man's maid touches it also and takes it back the 70 year old man. [B]Meanwhile the mindless vector is completely unaware that they are literally killing people.[/B][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SJobs;2434290]For me, life as I knew it would be over if I can't have overnight threesomes with 18 year olds paisas for more than 4 months.[/QUOTE]Read what MB posted. Given the lack of testing, we will get our life back to normal sooner if we all follow the advice to reduce the spread of the virus.

It's too late for you. Only citizens or permanent residents are allowed in after today. Maybe this is going to be a return to the mythical "gringos are rare" days that is in reality nothing more than one of the ISG urban legends.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2434190]Nounce, thanks for hotel bolero. That's exactly what I'm looking for, and the price is perfect. I will be booking my flight now and probably stay 2 weeks. Its in centro. Isn't that where most of the casas are hopefully I will have a nice trip report when I get back to return the favor.[/QUOTE]

Apologies for jumping on the COVID-19 bandwagon, but I'm curious as to what type of advice I can get from this community.

I am scheduled to fly back to the US on Wednesday.

I have a stop in PTY, on the way to LAX.

I live in a high-rise in another metropolitan area.

I can work remotely.

Can anyone provide a strong argument as to why I wouldn't just extend my stay in Medellin? I'm not worried about contracting / surviving, as much as I am just returning to chaos, and having to live a miserable existence until things calm down. I agree that we will likely see a spike in Colombia, as testing becomes more available. However, I can walk down the street to Exito, and buy enough supplies / food for a month, for $200. I can rent long-term for very cheap. I can use Uber to get around, or walk. If things start getting whacky, or the general public starts to live in fear, I would probably select a couple girls to be exclusive with in the interim.

I read American Airlines cancelled flights to Colombia / South America. I would imagine that the dominoes will fall, starting tomorrow. So, I should probably make a decision, today.

I'll write a report tonight / tomorrow, but had an amazing / free TLN FS with a Vennie from Conejitas.

I agree with you except for the part about testing. Positive or negative result the best practice is the same and there is no treatment or cure. Avoid crowds and practice good hygiene until it's over. No visits to the estadio for me anytime soon.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2434481]Read what MB posted. Given the lack of testing, we will get our life back to normal sooner if we all follow the advice to reduce the spread of the virus.[/QUOTE]

If you need to be in Los Angeles you are better off leaving now. If not, my choice would be to stay put and avoid the airport and flights, but I am a Centro rat.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2434505]Apologies for jumping on the COVID-19 bandwagon, but I'm curious as to what type of advice I can get from this community.

I am scheduled to fly back to the US on Wednesday.

I have a stop in PTY, on the way to LAX.

I live in a high-rise in another metropolitan area.

I can work remotely.

Can anyone provide a strong argument as to why I wouldn't just extend my stay in Medellin? I'm not worried about contracting / surviving, as much as I am just returning to chaos, and having to live a miserable existence until things calm down. I agree that we will likely see a spike in Colombia, as testing becomes more available. However, I can walk down the street to Exito, and buy enough supplies / food for a month, for $200. I can rent long-term for very cheap. I can use Uber to get around, or walk. If things start getting whacky, or the general public starts to live in fear, I would probably select a couple girls to be exclusive with in the interim.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2434302]I'm just trying to figure out who is the doctor on the board, because many people can go to Google and Google information even medical personnel can Google information but if you're not a doctor who can diagnose assess evaluate and treat what it is that you're retrieving from Google you're just like other people causing much more panic. I need a Dr who has contracted Covid 19 to confirm or deny all the Google diagnosis that BMs are spreading across the board! Then again, the cockiness & arrogance mixed with all of the BS, many board members wouldn't trust a legit Dr, pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]The best place to get the most accurate information on a worldwide scale is WHO, the very existence of this organization rests on fighting diseases like this. They are staffed with world class doctors who specialize in this. In the USA more country specific info is at CDC.

[URL]https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019[/URL]

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nCoV/index.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2434366]That's curious. I was booking a flight this morning without a problem. I just tried again and flights are showing available.[/QUOTE]I had early inside info.

Trust me your flight on AA if after the 16th or in April will be cancelled.

You are correct. No fee changes are offered. Avianca and viva are operating normally but Preisdent Duque is barred foreigners who are non residents and even citizens who are foreign residents until further notice.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2434517]I had early inside info.

Trust me your flight on AA if after the 16th or in April will be cancelled.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-colombia/colombia-will-block-entry-by-all-non-residents-from-monday-to-stop-coronavirus-idUSKBN21211B[/URL]

Starting tomorrow Colombia will restrict entry by all passengers who are not residents or citizens. The article doesn't say how long the restriction will be in place.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2434522][URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-colombia/colombia-will-block-entry-by-all-non-residents-from-monday-to-stop-coronavirus-idUSKBN21211B[/URL]

Starting tomorrow Colombia will restrict entry by all passengers who are not residents or citizens. The article doesn't say how long the restriction will be in place.[/QUOTE]That's serious.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2434522][URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-colombia/colombia-will-block-entry-by-all-non-residents-from-monday-to-stop-coronavirus-idUSKBN21211B[/URL]

Starting tomorrow Colombia will restrict entry by all passengers who are not residents or citizens. The article doesn't say how long the restriction will be in place.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this very crucial information. I guess this settles it. I learned more up-to-date information about Colombia through this site than any other source. I wish I have been stuck in Medellin, that would make me the happiest man on earth. I'm 3 weeks to early.

[QUOTE=Combo;2434527]That's serious.[/QUOTE]Well its been fun but no more trips until this shit dies down completely. Officials are too late, really, with border closures but given how quickly its done with little warning I'll wait this out until the WHO announces the pandemic is over which could go onto a second flu season.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2434522][URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-colombia/colombia-will-block-entry-by-all-non-residents-from-monday-to-stop-coronavirus-idUSKBN21211B[/URL]

Starting tomorrow Colombia will restrict entry by all passengers who are not residents or citizens. The article doesn't say how long the restriction will be in place.[/QUOTE]Actually, given this information, people can still fly out today. This is the last chance to get into heaven before the door shuts indefinitely. . I debating, the last flight leaves sfo around 8 pm today. Most of the responsible posts on this topic have a point, I respect the lives of the elderly people. I will most likely stay put, read a few good books and celebrate Beethoven's 250th birth anniversary. But man, hearing this news felt like someone just punched me in the face.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2434505]Apologies for jumping on the COVID-19 bandwagon, but I'm curious as to what type of advice I can get from this community.

I am scheduled to fly back to the US on Wednesday.

I have a stop in PTY, on the way to LAX.

I live in a high-rise in another metropolitan area.

I can work remotely.

Can anyone provide a strong argument as to why I wouldn't just extend my stay in Medellin? I'm not worried about contracting / surviving, as much as I am just returning to chaos, and having to live a miserable existence until things calm down. I agree that we will likely see a spike in Colombia, as testing becomes more available. However, I can walk down the street to Exito, and buy enough supplies / food for a month, for $200. I can rent long-term for very cheap. I can use Uber to get around, or walk. If things start getting whacky, or the general public starts to live in fear, I would probably select a couple girls to be exclusive with in the interim.

I read American Airlines cancelled flights to Colombia / South America. I would imagine that the dominoes will fall, starting tomorrow. So, I should probably make a decision, today.

I'll write a report tonight / tomorrow, but had an amazing / free TLN FS with a Vennie from Conejitas.[/QUOTE]Me personally? If I had the ability to stay in Medellin, I'd stay. Obviously, others are going to disagree.

Colombia is trying to stay ahead of the curve. This ban, combined with many airlines reducing or stopping flights, gives them a chance to minimize the severity. I don't know if they will succeed, but they seem to be making the right moves. If they succeed, the medical system won't be overwhelmed.

The US, however, is way behind the curve. It will be another week before widespread testing begins. By that time, there could easily be over 1 million infected. That could mean up to 200,000 hospitalized by the beginning of April. The number doubles every 6 days.

In addition, with no foreigners entering and many leaving, combined with the exchange rate leaves you in an enviable position. It's definitely going to be a buyer's market.

In Medellin it's also possible to get anything you need delivered. Anything. Need condoms, mayonnaise, rum, Viagra and a giant double dildo? Grab your phone and in 30-45 minutes it will be at your door.

Guys, have been pining on here for years for the glory days when gringos were rare in Medellin. Well, now they got your wish, I will enjoy it for them.

[QUOTE=Combo;2434527]That's serious.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Combo;2434527]That's serious.[/QUOTE]That is a politician (Duque) who does not want to be caught out like Trump and others who are getting lambasted by the media. Duque is in trouble already over the upsurge in terrorist guerilla attacks. This is the real world boys. I guess it's a plus for the Mansion. Something like this will convince guys they need somebody to hold their dicks again.

Pp.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2434105]I don't mind being in the country but it would kill me to be targeted and quarantine for 14 days on a five day recon mission. I have a slightly noticeable chest congestion.

Spirit was giving full refunds credits.[/QUOTE]Did I foresee this or what! That scenario played in my head over and over again.

Here is the tweet form Presidente Ivan Duque.

Now I'm trying to cancel my flight. Airline won't pickup!!

Thanks.

translation: Let myself inform to the country: starting march 16th, entering to the country is restricted from non national or non residents in Colombia. All Colombian and foreing residents will have preventive mandatory isolation por 14 days

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2434415]I have been waiting to book and just got a notice of a big price drop. My opinion is, they'll still let you book and take your money, even though the flight will be cancelled.

If they don't let you book now, you might choose another airline later. Once they have your money, they have leverage. More importantly, they are still bringing in revenue while their costs are dropping.

Looks like my April trip is getting postponed.[/QUOTE]Same here man. When I looked at my flight in April I was given the chance to upgrade to business for $100. I almost did in the hopes of this shit dying down by April but it looks like we'll have to ride out the storm for now. Oh well.

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2431314]Very important information! Thank you. I'm going in two weeks so this was a major key. If your feeling out the form, it ask you your origin country. United States. America. North America are not on the list. For those that don't know it's buried in the E section titled "Estados United "[/QUOTE]Absolutely appreciate all of the information you provided, I landed today, 03-15-2020, at 1 pm out of immigration within 15 minutes, on to the Nutibara bus and currently in my room chilling. Here for the next 90 days, maybe longer. Pollo negro is out!

Yesterday several board members wrote that travel from Europe had been banned when in fact people would be quarantined for 2 weeks on arrival. So they were in fact wrong. Last night that changed when Duque announced they would be barred, but that was after you guys posted! And this will apply from Monday.

Anyway, it will good thing that the borders will be closed to new arrivals, to slow the spread of the virus here.

Yesterday I read so much panic mongering here and news elsewhere about the virus that I had a rotten day! So, after this posting I'm going to try to not read this forum anymore for a while, and just read the facts and stay away from all the panic and speculation. In fact the only way this virus is affecting me is by all the reading I'm doing, not in any other way!

I'm going to trust my instincts. I have 6 weeks left of my trip. I'm not rushing off back to Belgium where I've been told there's no pasta, rice or water left in the supermarkets and where I'm sure life is much worse than here at the moment!

I'm not very worried about catching the virus, but am a bit worried that I might have trouble getting home or am treated differently or with suspicion here because I'm a foreigner in this situation.

Hopefully, the airline situation will be clearer in 6 weeks than it is now. And so far, I'm the only one mentioning this to Colombians, they aren't talking about it to me. And the supermarkets here are full.

Anyway, worst case scenario is you could get put on a flight back home like the Spanish person who ignored their quarantine yesterday, but you won't be left to rot in some Colombian dungeon! So great, in that case they will be doing the hard work for me! And that's only if they decide to retroactively expel foreigners who've been here longer than 2 weeks!?

And to AdventurSeekr who said I am recklessly infecting everyone just by being here walking around, I have no idea what planet you're on! Do you assume everybody has got the virus or something? And how am I selfish and have no regard for other people by just behaving normally?

And by the way I'm in another city here right now, not in Medellin, and for the next few days I will just take it easy, see how things evolve and resist mongering. And if I do it will be with a few chicas. By the way I think I'm the only gringo around, so it's not like there are hoards of us 'smashing' the local hookers and infecting them with the Corona virus. And don't confuse the corona virus with STDs!

Anyway, all the best to everybody, wherever you are and whatever your views on this. We'll see what happens!

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2431721]Agreed on all points. To your question about leaving in 10 days, it is because I feel more comfortable being in my own home, where I have over 100 days worth of supplies and wouldn't need to leave the house. I live in Puerto Rico, in a penthouse, with a private terrace. The temperature never changes and is always 82-85, a little less at night. I have everything I need there, entertainment, books, and private outdoor space that is no where near anyone else. If it comes down to it, I can easily stay there 90 days and not lose my mind, whereas being here in a 1 bedroom Airbnb with just a few sets of clothes would be tough.[/QUOTE]To Grownman, on March 7th, I was already alerting people to what was going on. I made the decision that 10 days would be the longest I should stay from that date. I ended up leaving 2 days ago on Friday as I had the feeling Monday (tomorrow) would end up being an important day internationally. I didn't anticipate as much action over the weekend as we have had.

1. Colombia closes borders to foreigners, citizens entry requires quarantine.

2. American Airlines cancels all flights. 2 a. I think its safe to say other airlines will do the same.

3. OHare airport takes 10 hours to clear baggage and customs because of checks. People are standing around in a closed environment with hundreds of others for 10 hours. How do we think that's going to play out?

3. Puerto Rico an hour ago:

"Starting today at 9 pm The government will implement more stringent measures and social isolation as follows:

All infected or symptomatic people should be isolated for 14 days.

The partial closure of all businesses was ordered, with the exception of businesses that are dedicated to the sale of food (drive through and carry out) and wholesale distribution, pharmacies, supermarkets, gas stations, financial banking institutions, nursing homes or those related to the food, medicine or grocery industry.

The full closure applies to shopping malls, movie theaters, concert halls, theaters, gyms, gambling halls, casinos, alcoholic beverage spending businesses, or any similar location conducive to citizens gathering.

Citizens may transit public roads between 5 AM and 9 PM only to:

-Buy food, pharmaceuticals or basic necessities.

-Attend medical appointments, hospitals, laboratories or medical service centers.

-Go to the workplace, if it was not ordered closed by the order.

-Offer assistance or transportation to the elderly, minors or people with disabilities, taking preventive measures.

-Go to financial institutions.

During curfew hours (9 PM-5 AM), citizens can only travel on public roads due to an emergency situation. Excluded from the curfew are officials, doctors, etc.

Anyone that doesn't comply with the order can be put on jail for up to 6 months and / or receive a $5,000 penalty. ".

Please let me know if my coming back and being prepared still seems like an overreaction. I'll wait.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2434552]Yesterday several board members wrote that travel from Europe had been banned when in fact people would be quarantined for 2 weeks on arrival. So they were in fact wrong. Last night that changed when Duque announced they would be barred, but that was after you guys posted! And this will apply from Monday.

Anyway, it will good thing that the borders will be closed to new arrivals, to slow the spread of the virus here.

Yesterday I read so much panic mongering here and news elsewhere about the virus that I had a rotten day! So, after this posting I'm going to try to not read this forum anymore for a while, and just read the facts and stay away from all the panic and speculation. In fact the only way this virus is affecting me is by all the reading I'm doing, not in any other way!

I'm going to trust my instincts. I have 6 weeks left of my trip. I'm not rushing off back to Belgium where I've been told there's no pasta, rice or water left in the supermarkets and where I'm sure life is much worse than here at the moment!

I'm not very worried about catching the virus, but am a bit worried that I might have trouble getting home or am treated differently or with suspicion here because I'm a foreigner in this situation.

Hopefully, the airline situation will be clearer in 6 weeks than it is now. And so far, I'm the only one mentioning this to Colombians, they aren't talking about it to me. And the supermarkets here are full.

Anyway, worst case scenario is you could get put on a flight back home like the Spanish person who ignored their quarantine yesterday, but you won't be left to rot in some Colombian dungeon! So great, in that case they will be doing the hard work for me! And that's only if they decide to retroactively expel foreigners who've been here longer than 2 weeks!?

And to AdventurSeekr who said I am recklessly infecting everyone just by being here walking around, I have no idea what planet you're on! Do you assume everybody has got the virus or something? And how am I selfish and have no regard for other people by just behaving normally?

And by the way I'm in another city here right now, not in Medellin, and for the next few days I will just take it easy, see how things evolve and resist mongering. And if I do it will be with a few chicas. By the way I think I'm the only gringo around, so it's not like there are hoards of us 'smashing' the local hookers and infecting them with the Corona virus. And don't confuse the corona virus with STDs!

Anyway, all the best to everybody, wherever you are and whatever your views on this. We'll see what happens![/QUOTE]Maybe read my post a few more times. You've almost misunderstood everything I've said. Impressive.

Concerned -.

You may already have it but sharing, just in case. Use Search Bar, for example, to see USA. Do scroll all the way down for insightful details. Also useful to evaluate whether: " . Should I stay or should I go"!

[URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/URL]#countries.

Stay Safe!

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2434553] 3. Puerto Rico an hour ago:

"Starting today at 9 pm The government will implement more stringent measures and social isolation as follows:

All infected or symptomatic people should be isolated for 14 days.

The partial closure of all businesses was ordered, with the exception of businesses that are dedicated to the sale of food (drive through and carry out) and wholesale distribution, pharmacies, supermarkets, gas stations, financial banking institutions, nursing homes or those related to the food, medicine or grocery industry.

The full closure applies to shopping malls, movie theaters, concert halls, theaters, gyms, gambling halls, casinos, alcoholic beverage spending businesses, or any similar location conducive to citizens gathering.

Citizens may transit public roads between 5 AM and 9 PM only to:

-Buy food, pharmaceuticals or basic necessities.

-Attend medical appointments, hospitals, laboratories or medical service centers.

-Go to the workplace, if it was not ordered closed by the order.

-Offer assistance or transportation to the elderly, minors or people with disabilities, taking preventive measures.

-Go to financial institutions.

During curfew hours (9 PM-5 AM), citizens can only travel on public roads due to an emergency situation. Excluded from the curfew are officials, doctors, etc.

Anyone that doesn't comply with the order can be put on jail for up to 6 months and / or receive a $5,000 penalty. ".

Please let me know if my coming back and being prepared still seems like an overreaction. I'll wait.[/QUOTE]What has any of that got to do with Colombia? Nothing! Maybe you should post in in the Puerto Rico section where it belongs! Don't take it out on us, that you're stuck in the place!

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2434557]What has any of that got to do with Colombia? Nothing! Maybe you should post in in the Puerto Rico section where it belongs! Don't take it out on us, that you're stuck in the place![/QUOTE]To show people what's coming. I also showed Spain, Italy and France. NY and CA went into lockdown today. You really have zero ability to think critically. It's incredible.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2434558]To show people what's coming. I also showed Spain, Italy and France. NY and CA went into lockdown today. You really have zero ability to think critically. It's incredible.[/QUOTE]Your information has been very useful. I thank you for that.

Let us all be careful and take care of ourselves and others. Its a matter of a group activity what will allow us to be fine.

We give a lot of advice regarding girls and mongering, some of this advice is regarding safety, thus, any safety information is useful, from anywhere in the world.

This is 2020, cancel online. If that side worries you read all the fine print, the deal is no different than having a preservationist read it to you over the phone. You just won't have to wait an hour to hear it.

[QUOTE=MexiMonger;2434545]Here is the tweet form Presidente Ivan Duque.

Now I'm trying to cancel my flight. Airline won't pickup!!

Thanks.

translation: Let myself inform to the country: starting march 16th, entering to the country is restricted from non national or non residents in Colombia. All Colombian and foreing residents will have preventive mandatory isolation por 14 days[/QUOTE]

How about someone start a fresh new thread Called "Corona Virus 2020"? This way everyone that wants to talk about it can gather there. It will help future newbies trying to gather information related to chicas. Also with so much information coming in daily about this virus, I can see this Medellin Report section with about 50 pages of going back and forth about the virus. Let's move it elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Macgoo;2434555]Concerned -.

You may already have it but sharing, just in case. Use Search Bar, for example, to see USA. Do scroll all the way down for insightful details. Also useful to evaluate whether: " . Should I stay or should I go"!

[URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/URL]#countries.

Stay Safe![/QUOTE]This one from John Hopkins University gives you the breakdowns and a visual map, but I cannot stress enough that none of this can tell us in the United States anything until we get enough people tested. The visual map is somewhat misleading also simply because the size of the "red" circles on the map do not correlate to anything geographically. Meaning size wise, if a circle on the map looks like it covers 1000 sqr miles / kms. It doesn't mean that 1000 sqr area is blanketed with Covid-19 coronavirus cases. And this is demonstrated when you scroll in and the circle gets smaller as the area you are zooming in gets bigger.

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2434558]... NY and CA went into lockdown today. ...[/QUOTE]Although most of your reports are interesting and entertaining, it's statements like this that lead to people exclaiming alarmist. NY and CA have not gone into lockdown, not even been suggested. The governor of California called for (not ordered) all bars to shut down, all restaurants to reduce capacity by half, and anyone 65 and over to go into home isolation. New York hasn't ordered any action statewide related to the virus, except maybe limiting crowd size. Illinois and Ohio probably took the most drastic action. The governors of those states ordered all restaurants and bars to close, with only drive-thru service open.

[QUOTE=Uthred;2434577]How about someone start a fresh new thread Called "Corona Virus 2020"? This way everyone that wants to talk about it can gather there. It will help future newbies trying to gather information related to chicas. Also with so much information coming in daily about this virus, I can see this Medellin Report section with about 50 pages of going back and forth about the virus. Let's move it elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Well given that Colombia isn't allowing foreigners to enter, I'm not sure there's going to be much about the chicas here, other than reminiscing.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2434581]Although most of your reports are interesting and entertaining, it's statements like this that lead to people exclaiming alarmist. NY and CA have not gone into lockdown, not even been suggested. The governor of California called for (not ordered) all bars to shut down, all restaurants to reduce capacity by half, and anyone 65 and over to go into home isolation. New York hasn't ordered any action statewide related to the virus. Illinois and Ohio probably took the most drastic action. The governors of those states ordered all restaurants and bars to close, with only drive-thru service open.[/QUOTE]Not even suggested is incorrect. It is already in process as we speak. I was referring to NYC and as of now its schools are closed. More is coming tomorrow or Tuesday. Nassau and Suffolk County as well. CT closes schools Tuesday. CA is heavily suggested by Governor, but will be mandatory soon. Its a moot point since most businesses are voluntarily closing anyway, it doesn't pay to stay open. Because you found discrepancies in one thing I mentioned quickly, you ignored ALL of the cited statements I've made over the past two days. Cool.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/15/nyregion/coronavirus-nyc-shutdown.html[/URL]

I agree with Uthred, everyone make their own decisions. Let's end the covid discussion please.

[QUOTE=Combo;2434583]Well given that Colombia isn't allowing foreigners to enter, I'm not sure there's going to be much about the chicas here, other than reminiscing.[/QUOTE]Better to leave it at that then. Start a new thread about the virus. When this shit blows over we can pick up where we left off. We get mad at newbies asking for info and then tell them to read back about 50 pages. At this rate the only thing they will read is the back and forth opinions about the virus. Then they'll ask JB how to find a facebook chick LOL. Seriously though you know what I mean.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2434550]Absolutely appreciate all of the information you provided, I landed today, 03-15-2020, at 1 pm out of immigration within 15 minutes, on to the Nutibara bus and currently in my room chilling. Here for the next 90 days, maybe longer. Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]I land next week. How was the medical testing when you were at customs. I already filled out the online form.

See

[QUOTE=Uthred;2434577]How about someone start a fresh new thread Called "Corona Virus 2020"? This way everyone that wants to talk about it can gather there. It will help future newbies trying to gather information related to chicas. Also with so much information coming in daily about this virus, I can see this Medellin Report section with about 50 pages of going back and forth about the virus. Let's move it elsewhere.[/QUOTE].

Since what you said makes all kinds of sense about not needing to have people read this thread and just get info about coronavirus. I started a thread called "Colombia / Trravel Corona Virus Updates" As you can see I typed it out too fast and travel is spelled wrong and Coronavirus should be one word. But that's how may posts come out anyway. Please add any info that you have about the subject and help me redirect the conversation to that thread so we can keep this one uncluttered.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4155-Colombia-Trravel-Corona-Virus-Updates&p=2434601[/URL]#post2434601".

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2434553]
1. Colombia closes borders to foreigners, citizens entry requires quarantine.

2. American Airlines cancels all flights. 2 a. I think its safe to say other airlines will do the same.

.[/QUOTE]I just started the above thread so any info you have on this travel stuff and especially sources please post there so we can condense the information as it develops.

Thanks bro, this is very helpful. I planned to get in touch with her.

Just in case, I want to stress out that you should hide your laptop and other valuable things unless you know the girl really well!

Take care!

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2432998]
Had a session scheduled with Lisdey Santilla or something for 11 am. She grabs my laptop and says she's going to steal my laptop if I don't pay her. I get angry and take my laptop from her and then kick her out of my hotel room. She goes downstairs and complains to the front desk guy. He comes up and tells me that she's going to call the police if I don't pay her. I explain to him what happened and he says it's not worth it because the police with charge me a prostitution fee and get me in trouble. I tell him that prostitution is legal in Columbia and show him on google. He tells me that it is legal for Columbians but foreigners signed something when they came into the country saying we won't hire any prostitutes. And that it's promoting prostitution and a "pimping" fee or something. I tell him I'the rather pay the cops for the fee than pay this girl cause I'm still mad fb failed me again and she tried to steal my laptop. He then tells me that the cops would put something on my passport / immigration saying I participated in prostitution and make it harder for me to travel in the future which had me worried. (Is this true? Or was he just making this up because it would be a huge hassle and probably a fine for the hotel if the cops got involved? So I tell the desk clerk, she only stayed for 30 minutes when we agreed to 2-3 hours. I offered her 150 k and if she doesn't want to take it, we can let the police handle it. He says okay she'll take the 150 k so I give it to him and wash my hands if this. Actually fucking was probably a 7/10. The rest made it a 2/10 session. I don't know why I always seem to have this problem with the fb girls but at this point I'm realizing it's probably just not going to happen for me on FB. Maybe it's cause I don't know Spanish or maybe it's because I'm not as assertive that they think they can take advantage of me.
[/QUOTE]

I will be curious to see how desperate the chicas become because of no business. I fully expect to be bombarded with requests to "borrow" money. I guess that is one advantage to going to casa or using streetwalkers. They cannot contact you! When the travel ban is finally lifted, those who can take advantage should have some great opportunities with a lot of pent up supply.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2434302]I'm just trying to figure out who is the doctor on the board, because many people can go to Google and Google information even medical personnel can Google information but if you're not a doctor who can diagnose assess evaluate and treat what it is that you're retrieving from Google you're just like other people causing much more panic. I need a Dr who has contracted Covid 19 to confirm or deny all the Google diagnosis that BMs are spreading across the board! Then again, the cockiness & arrogance mixed with all of the BS, many board members wouldn't trust a legit Dr, pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]Can you define what a "legit doctor" is? I'm asking because I've spent too much time with too many doctors and a lot of those "legit doctors" aren't worth a damn.

I've seen several conflicting coronavirus discussions from "legit doctors. " Which one is correct?

People are worried. Some more than others. Fact is, we're in unknown territory. Can you name another instance when all the sports leagues shut down? Add in college athletics, colleges themselves, public schools. Today Illinois and Ohio announced they are shutting down all bars and restaurants for dine-in service. More states will soon follow suit. In the past week the Fed has committed $2 2 trillion to prop up the markets. Airlines are basically shutting down.

Does all this sound like situation normal?

Even as arrogant as I am (according to some), I don't claim to have any answers. The only thing I know to do is not panic. Both the WHO and the CDC have plenty of available information, ranging from general recommendations to recent research papers.

My suggestion is to stay away from all the opinion pieces and go to the source. Follow the advice of the CDC and the WHO. Maybe it's all blown out of proportion. Maybe it's the most significant event in our lifetimes. Only time will tell.

[QUOTE=Uthred;2434577]How about someone start a fresh new thread Called "Corona Virus 2020"? This way everyone that wants to talk about it can gather there. It will help future newbies trying to gather information related to chicas. Also with so much information coming in daily about this virus, I can see this Medellin Report section with about 50 pages of going back and forth about the virus. Let's move it elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Okay. But what are we going to talk about? Until this runs its course, there's not much to discuss. So the options are talk about COVID-19, or nothing at all.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2434557]What has any of that got to do with Colombia? Nothing! Maybe you should post in in the Puerto Rico section where it belongs! Don't take it out on us, that you're stuck in the place![/QUOTE]I know you've been paying attention. He's not stuck in PR. He chose to go where he feels most comfortable at this time. How is that wrong?

Here's some information I just learned, which may be of interest.

Not long ago 9 people I know all attended an event which included plenty of frequent international travelers. According to what I heard tonight, 6 of the other attendees have since been tested positive. Five of the people I know have since been ill. I haven't heard any information on the other 4. One, upon learning of the other positive test results, requested to be tested. She was refused because she has not flown internationally recently.

All of them may have picked up a cold or flu bug. I'd say it's the most likely, at least for 2 of them. However, just the presence of people who have tested positive should initiate quarantine and testing protocols for all attendees. Hasn't happened and now that option is gone. Give it some thought.

Given a choice, I'd rather sit this out in Colombia, but that's not an option now. Depending on what further restrictions are placed, I'll either be in the US or Canada. I'll almost certainly be working until everything returns to normal.

Hi guys,

I know you're tired of reading about CV at this point but I find it crazy that people are being condemned for creating hysteria or being alarmist by warning members about the threat of CV. That's kinda like condemning someone for telling you to use a rubber while mongering. If you disagree, that's okay but I think it's fair to say the risk is definitely there. Now everyone's situation is different so I'm not saying nobody should be making a trip to medellin right now (or fucking some puss raw).

I just think that there's very little upside in making a trip to medellin right now. Can we at least agree that the CV is definitely not going to make your trip any better? The downside (I don't want to comment on how likely the downside is since most people have already made up their minds on that) is well that you're going to end up wasting a bunch of money and time. I'm not saying Columbia will shut down but if they decide to do what most of the major mongering destinations in Europe has already decided to do. You might be stuck in a foreign country that's closed all their bars, restaurants and brothels. Sure you'll still be able to find some chicas who are desperate but I have to imagine the quality of the girls (and service) will go down.

Maybe that's worth the risk for some people and that's okay, there's nothing wrong with that. Everyone's situations different. I would just advise first time travelers to medellin to delay their trip a few months. You don't want your first trip to paradise to have this CV thing looming about.

NAK.

As of today, Colombia closed its borders to all foreigners, except residents. Problem solved.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2434617]Thanks bro, this is very helpful. I planned to get in touch with her.

Just in case, I want to stress out that you should hide your laptop and other valuable things unless you know the girl really well!

Take care![/QUOTE]I think there's another lesson to be learned from his experience. When the situation degrades to the point where you're arguing with a chica, there's not much chance you're going to come out ahead. That's especially true if your Spanish isn't strong.

To me, this is a problem with trying to nail everything down in advance. If she doesn't like the deal, chances are she'll just agree to it. Then she'll come up with an excuse to get out of it.

If everything was good up to that point, why burn the bridge? A bit of diplomacy and you can probably turn it to your advantage.

"Que triste. Tu perrito está enfermo? Entiendo. Deberías atender a tu mascota. Pero esperaba que te quedaras más tiempo. " How sad. Your dog is sick? I understand. You should attend to your pet. But I expected you to stay longer.

Show concern, validate her excuse, then nicely let her know she's skipping out on you. You can try to work it out for a discounted second session, or a later return to finish. You'll probably still end up paying the price, but at least you get goodwill out of it. What did he save? 90 k? What if she had broken the laptop? What if the hotel decided the incident violated their rules and kicked him out without refunding the remaining days? What if she gets on WhatsApp and tells her friends to all avoid him?

As others have reported, the girls all talk to each other. It's one big gossip web. The reputation you build follows you.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2434663]As of today, Colombia closed its borders to all foreigners, except residents. Problem solved.[/QUOTE]But my flight...

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2434648]I will be curious to see how desperate the chicas become because of no business. [/QUOTE]What do you mean desperate? Those hoes will stop being lazy and go get a normal job like everybody else. Do you seriously think they will sit around and starve to death because the easy money train is delayed? Never has it been said that a hooker's life ended because there were no more customers. She simply found something else to do to make money.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2434663]As of today, Colombia closed its borders to all foreigners, except residents. Problem solved.[/QUOTE]Kinda sucks my gym is closing this week because of this stuff and I would usually hit the gym before doing a Casa run.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2434661]Hi guys,

I know you're tired of reading about CV at this point but I find it crazy that people are being condemned for creating hysteria or being alarmist by warning members about the threat of CV. .[/QUOTE]Its not that anyone was tired of reading about CV, but members were saying it shouldn't be continued in the Medellen thread so I started a thread called Colombia / Travel Coronavirus Updates and the discussion was continued over there.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4155-Colombia-Travel-Coronavirus-Updates[/URL]

Right, if you aren't here you don't have to think about it. For those who are here, a practical measure is to avoid the metro because that seems like a place you could pick it up. Maybe traffic will calm down because of this. I don't know, I have serious doubts about that.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2434663]As of today, Colombia closed its borders to all foreigners, except residents. Problem solved.[/QUOTE]

That does indeed suck. I notice several restaurants in Provenza on my instagram feed announcing they are shutting down, some of my favorite places. The morning news reported 54 known cases in Colombia as of today. A girl I know went to Soacha for a long term date because things slowed down for her here. Life goes on.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2434696]Kinda sucks my gym is closing this week because of this stuff and I would usually hit the gym before doing a Casa run.[/QUOTE]

We can probably all agree the Venezuelans don't generally have the option of getting jobs other than sex work, pushcart vending, or panhandling. Colombian women are eligible for "straight" jobs but there are massively more of them than there are available jobs. Hiring managers can be highly selective. Like any stereotype, the one about lazy women who choose "the life" for it's easy money and lack of responsibility is true in some cases but there are other factors at play.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2434680]What do you mean desperate? Those hoes will stop being lazy and go get a normal job like everybody else. Do you seriously think they will sit around and starve to death because the easy money train is delayed? Never has it been said that a hooker's life ended because there were no more customers. She simply found something else to do to make money.[/QUOTE]

I doubt it. Most of them have no skills and unemployment is still high. For the FB girls, I figure step one is to beg their clients for money first. If that doesn't work, maybe some of them temporarily filter down to casas or bang the local guys for less (guys they would have never banged in the past). This all assumes they only need to hold out for a month or so. These girls are fundamentally lazy, so I think they hold out as long as they can.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2434680]What do you mean desperate? Those hoes will stop being lazy and go get a normal job like everybody else. Do you seriously think they will sit around and starve to death because the easy money train is delayed? Never has it been said that a hooker's life ended because there were no more customers. She simply found something else to do to make money.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2434784]That does indeed suck. I notice several restaurants in Provenza on my instagram feed announcing they are shutting down, some of my favorite places. The morning news reported 54 known cases in Colombia as of today. A girl I know went to Soacha for a long term date because things slowed down for her here. Life goes on.[/QUOTE]Yep bar closings and no gatherings of more than 50 peeps. Still plenty of stuff to do though. I'm hoping these restrictions will help with that traffic and air pollution.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2434848]I doubt it. Most of them have no skills and unemployment is still high. For the FB girls, I figure step one is to beg their clients for money first. If that doesn't work, maybe some of them temporarily filter down to casas or bang the local guys for less (guys they would have never banged in the past). This all assumes they only need to hold out for a month or so. These girls are fundamentally lazy, so I think they hold out as long as they can.[/QUOTE]There are few jobs to be gotten, with the field getting slimmer and slimmer with each passing day due to what is not only a global pandemic, but also a global economic crisis. They will find ways to fuck for less, move back in with their moms, beg clients for money, etc. I've already had a tute I was fucking in Sao Paulo, Brazil hit me up twice for money. Each time, my answer was the same with a "no".

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2434677]I think there's another lesson to be learned from his experience. When the situation degrades to the point where you're arguing with a chica, there's not much chance you're going to come out ahead. That's especially true if your Spanish isn't strong.

To me, this is a problem with trying to nail everything down in advance. If she doesn't like the deal, chances are she'll just agree to it. Then she'll come up with an excuse to get out of it.

If everything was good up to that point, why burn the bridge? A bit of diplomacy and you can probably turn it to your advantage.

"Que triste. Tu perrito est enfermo? Entiendo. Deberas atender a tu mascota. Pero esperaba que te quedaras ms tiempo. " How sad. Your dog is sick? I understand. You should attend to your pet. But I expected you to stay longer.

Show concern, validate her excuse, then nicely let her know she's skipping out on you. You can try to work it out for a discounted second session, or a later return to finish. You'll probably still end up paying the price, but at least you get goodwill out of it. What did he save? 90 k? What if she had broken the laptop? What if the hotel decided the incident violated their rules and kicked him out without refunding the remaining days? What if she gets on WhatsApp and tells her friends to all avoid him?

As others have reported, the girls all talk to each other. It's one big gossip web. The reputation you build follows you.[/QUOTE]I had a girl try this shit with me in Medellin. I simply told her that I ain't paying her the full amount if she leaves early. She gave me some sad story about her father being drunk around her mother and she has to get back because she worried about her mom. I looked at her ass weighing in at under 100 pounds and asked her exactly wtf she was going to do LOL. She asked me how much would I be giving her. We originally agreed on 3 hrs for 150 mil. Now if she had said 2 hours before I would have agreed at that price but she agreed on 3 hrs so I held her to that. Told her ass since she was leaving after 2 hrs she would only be receiving 100 mil. She paused but agreed. Trust me I had no inclination to pay her the full amount. At that point it was the fucking principle.

I relaxed for a couple days, before the weekend, and by relaxed, I mean played the WhatsApp game with ghosts. I finally just said F it and gave up on caring about making plans. It's draining, sometimes. Friday, I hit New Life (forget the name), which was fine. Nothing new to report, aside from being sprayed down by the haz mat welcome committee. Then, I cruised Veracruz, popped into my little spot, La Fonda de Cascadas (across from the red Pilsen bar). There is one, ONE, chick on that street that intrigues me, and twice now, I did not pull the trigger. I walked up to Raudal and was stalked by a morena who was being egged-on by her elders. No chance. I sarcastically told her to show me her cedula, and she quickly came up with some BS. I got out of that scenario as quick as possible, back to Veracruz, and then to the plaza. This is maybe my 6th-8th time in the area, and I never can find the hidden gems I read about. Anyway, into Conejitas. P.S. - ended up at Gusto's and La Isla, this night. Didn't pull from either, as I was playing wingman, and not really in the mood to negotiate Friday night prices from those establishments.

It is about 5-6 pm, at this point. My mentality was to have some beers, just relax after the high-stress walk-about, and then figure out dinner back in Poblado. I got a pitcher of beer (20 k) and decompressed. I saw 3-4 girls that I would definitely bang. Probably a high for me, in Conejitas. I decided to try a new strategy, and just plant some seeds. Three of the hotter-looking girls took the stage (2 k tips are customary), and wow did they increased their value. I can't recall if I got / gave a number to the first one. The 2nd was a flaquita Vennie. Tattoos on her thighs, and elsewhere. She got her hair done on Saturday, so she has only worked once since adding the blonde braids. How do I know? Because she came over on Saturday. She was supposed to come over mid-day, but I was so hungover, and she was getting her hair / nails done, and buying some new clothes. I got her an Uber around 7 pm maybe. We hung out for awhile, chatting, and she was on her phone most of the time. Turns out it was her friend and mom, both in Bogota. I could tell she had active convos with some dudes with local numbers, and she is living in a hotel around the corner from Conejitas. Anyway, the jacuzzi finally filled, we change into our bathing attire. Hers is a tiny red number that looks like it could be lingerie, more-so than a bikini. Once that came off, I was amazed at how nice her body was. Perky little tits, zero fat, maybe 5'6 100 lbs, and a nice little shaved kitty. BBBJ, BBFS, and both were amazing. We were in and out of the jacuzzi. She gives off a very reserved and mysterious vibe. She enjoyed herself, and it was a real home run, for me. I got some nice photos, sin cara. We had some beers, ordered food, and relaxed. Netflix on, Spanish audio with English subtitles, and I couldn't help myself. Round 2 on the couch. Rapi interrupts, momentarily, and then back to action. We got Mexican food from somewhere, and the chicken burrito was pretty good. She had 2 tacos, and ate one.

TLN, she watched Netflix all night, and I went to bed. In the morning, I couldn't get a clear read on if she was going to ask for money, and if so, how much, etc. I know it's a risk, but a Vennie that's paying 30 k / night just got to watch Netflix, have some beers, eat dinner, and maybe just feel normal for a night. So. She never asks. I used Uber to get to the gym, so I told her to grab a taxi. I gave her 50 k and told her it was for the taxi & breakfast. All-in-all, Uber from Centro, 2 tacos, & 50 k. So, maybe 75 k for double-pop BB TLN. She's was messaging me all yesterday to come back. If I ended staying another month, I'll likely see her again. 20 yo, no kids.

The 3rd dancer wears glasses, shoulder-length hair, fresh Cartagena tan, and stupid cartoon body (in a good way). Big fake tits, ass that might be fake but might not be, that looks amazing on her. I was locked-up with the Vennie, all night, so I had my server guy give my business card to this girl. He was terrible at being inconspicuous, and I got called-out by the Vennie. I made up some bullshit, and I think we just agreed to pretend it didn't happen. So, she was going to come over mid-day, said she was seeing her mom, and would message around 6-7 p. After dealing with this BS the last few days, I ended up just heading out for dinner and drinks shortly after 6 pm. She ended up texting at 730 p, and we agreed on 9 p. I was late because I was in search of food, and was waiting for pizza, around the corner. She hung out in the taxi, and was totally cool about it, saying I waited for her all day, so it's fine. She loves to fuma marijuana. I didn't partake. She had a slide of pizza, and we didn't drink any alcohol. Lots of chatting, and finally, off to the bedroom. Her tits could use an upgrade, but from 20 ft in a dark Conejitas, they look insane. She gives a good BBBJ, and I am just shocked. This girl with the cartoon body has the most unfortunate David Copperfield gaffe hack-job, AKA baby damage. She was wearing a bodysuit that looked amazing on her, so this was a let-down. Although, light were low, and I just kind of re-programmed my brain, for temporary enjoyment. Decent covered session, some pics sin cara, etc. At about 12:45 a, after some cuddling and music, she said she needs to get home because her taxi driver friend is about to head back to Robledo. I play the waiting game, she asks for money, and says she lives far, far away. I slip her 200 k and she doesn't even look at it, thanks me, goodbye kiss, and 7 mins later I'm asleep. I think that was fair for the time, and two taxis. Not sure I would be doing the Seinfeld celebration had I only paid her 150 k. Wouldn't repeat, but she'd probably be a good one for some guys. She has a young Lisa Ann look. 29 yo, spent time in China and S. Korea, years ago, so maybe higher mileage than the average chick.

I go back and forth about how much I can, should, will pay. I guess, I probably shouldn't feel bad about anything, from a macro perspective. With all the time wasted making plans, over-payments in some cases, etc. I guess I just feel bad that the good ones are the girls to suffer, financially, in most cases. Ok, that's enough of that!

I have my apartment through Wednesday, and am looking for another, today. I will probably stay for another month. I'm wondering if I should post in a GringoPaisa FB group about my search. I tend to think if I wait a day or two, I might be able to find some one that is either A) desperate, or B) realistic. No tourists or business people coming in, only leaving. Surprisingly, Casacol hasn't responded in 24 hours. I wonder if the tourist-driven companies are going the way of the airlines, and just hacking people. Maybe there is some one on this board who has an apartment here, and had their travel plans change. I'm looking for something in Poblado, 1 br is enough, modern amenities, probably doesn't need to be said. No guest policy issues, washer, etc.

I heard in Lleras that there is an expectation of restaurants / bars closing down (as was previously mentioned about some in Provenza).

I included an 18 yo from Villa Hermosa, in my first report. She has been incredibly unprofessional, since I first saw her. I think I am going to just ignore her, from here on out. Random messages, "Hoy?" and then goes dark. I would have repeated, but I'm over it, now.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2434930]I relaxed for a couple days, before the weekend, and by relaxed, I mean played the WhatsApp game with ghosts. I finally just said F it and gave up on caring about making plans. It's draining, sometimes. Friday, I hit New Life (forget the name), which was fine. Nothing new to report, aside from being sprayed down by the haz mat welcome committee. Then, I cruised Veracruz, popped into my little spot, La Fonda de Cascadas (across from the red Pilsen bar). There is one, ONE, chick on that street that intrigues me, and twice now, I did not pull the trigger. I walked up to Raudal and was stalked by a morena who was being egged-on by her elders. No chance. I sarcastically told her to show me her cedula, and she quickly came up with some BS. I got out of that scenario as quick as possible, back to Veracruz, and then to the plaza. This is maybe my 6th-8th time in the area, and I never can find the hidden gems I read about. Anyway, into Conejitas. P.S. - ended up at Gusto's and La Isla, this night. Didn't pull from either, as I was playing wingman, and not really in the mood to negotiate Friday night prices from those establishments.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Board has been dead! This has become some of my favorite reading each day. I'm sad things are the way they are in the world right now. I was stoked to return in April but we all know that aint happening. Keep us updated when ya can bro.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2434910]I had a girl try this shit with me in Medellin. I simply told her that I ain't paying her the full amount if she leaves early. She gave me some sad story about her father being drunk around her mother and she has to get back because she worried about her mom. I looked at her ass weighing in at under 100 pounds and asked her exactly wtf she was going to do LOL. She asked me how much would I be giving her. We originally agreed on 3 hrs for 150 mil. Now if she had said 2 hours before I would have agreed at that price but she agreed on 3 hrs so I held her to that. Told her ass since she was leaving after 2 hrs she would only be receiving 100 mil. She paused but agreed. Trust me I had no inclination to pay her the full amount. At that point it was the fucking principle.[/QUOTE]Have you considered that maybe it's just you?

I've never gotten everything in writing. In fact, I rarely get anything other than a price in writing. And I don't have these problems. Girls aren't trying to change things, girls are almost never trying to leave before I'm ready for them to go. Some don't want to leave then. I never have girls immediately getting dressed to leave, or giving excuses why they need to leave. I've never had a girl try to charge more for something and I rarely have anything to complain about. A few aren't as GFE as I want, but only a few.

I never have issues with the girls I want not responding to my messages. I also don't need more than 6 or 7 messages to set things up. And I never end up needing to argue about things.

However, seems like every "get it all in writing" monger has problems. They spend as much time arguing over the deal as they spend fucking. The girls all want to leave as soon as possible, or want to add extra charges.

Then again, I treat every chica like a human being instead of just something to fuck. They seem to appreciate that approach.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2434680]What do you mean desperate? Those hoes will stop being lazy and go get a normal job like everybody else. Do you seriously think they will sit around and starve to death because the easy money train is delayed? Never has it been said that a hooker's life ended because there were no more customers. She simply found something else to do to make money.[/QUOTE]Plenty of Colombian guys will be glad to give them business, but they generally don't pay stupid gringo prices. The girls will survive.

This will be one most trying times in your adult life gentlemen. Not because Colombia is closed: but from what comes next.

In a chica's mind, just because you can't physically arrive there doesn't mean your dollars can't! I've already gotten a "Mi Padre has cancer" with photo to boot!

Saw a "Baby" message in FB messenger that I have left on unread, LOL. If you believe yourself to give into temptation, I would advise that you just log out of messenger or just delete it all together until this all blows over.

As other have mentioned below: these chicas will not starve. But you just might if you send them all your damn money, LOL.

SP out!

If you stayed home, count your blessings. Not all of the monger population is aware of this forum.

Imagine having to lock down in Colombia for 14 nights. When you only budgeted for 5.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2434910]I had a girl try this shit with me in Medellin. I simply told her that I ain't paying her the full amount if she leaves early. She gave me some sad story about her father being drunk around her mother and she has to get back because she worried about her mom. I looked at her ass weighing in at under 100 pounds and asked her exactly wtf she was going to do LOL. She asked me how much would I be giving her. We originally agreed on 3 hrs for 150 mil. Now if she had said 2 hours before I would have agreed at that price but she agreed on 3 hrs so I held her to that. Told her ass since she was leaving after 2 hrs she would only be receiving 100 mil. She paused but agreed. Trust me I had no inclination to pay her the full amount. At that point it was the fucking principle.[/QUOTE]First time with a Facebook girl I always nail down a couple of points that are dealbreakers for me, BBBJ plus two shots or two hours, whichever comes first. The reason is that if it's going to be an all covered quickie I'the rather go to a casa or strip club where I can get the same for less than half the price. Plus there are far fewer surpises as to their appearance, especially at a strip club if she takes the stage. You see what you are getting. But some say no to the time, the BBBJ or both, and odds are those are ones I didn't want anything to do with anyway. Sure perhaps I could have turned some of those around to my way of thinking if I invited them over anyway, but with all the available girls in Medellin I do not see that as a good use of my time.

It's rare for me that one agrees to the terms but wants to leave early. The few times it's happened their pay was cut accordingly and none complained. If they bad mouthed me to their friends, then they didn't cover a lot of ground as I have no trouble getting appointments. That said, if she wants to create a scene, and it only costs 50 mil ($15) to get rid of her, why not? That especially applies if she is in your residence. I'm never in that position though as I only use Love Motels, which in Colombian culture are designed for the specific purpose.

Reporting from rl centro area. Botero packed with people and I presume hookers. Checked out club "Conercitas", lots of girls, few to my liking. Prepago girls starting to refrain from gringos (abd catch the virus).

Every so often this reminder is necessary. Colombian mongers far outnumber their gringo counterparts, this by a huge margin. The exceptions are small and few (e. G. The Mansion, Gustos, and certain escort sites that actually communicate in English and quote prices in dollars).

It's the same thing with the upscale restaurants. You see very few barrio places shut down but Provenza is a ghost town now. Let's keep our fingers crossed the tide will turn the way it did in China. If that were to happen within a month or two we can avoid wide scale layoffs in Europe and the Americas.

[QUOTE=Combo;2434945]Plenty of Colombian guys will be glad to give them business, but they generally don't pay stupid gringo prices. The girls will survive.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2434660]Given a choice, I'd rather sit this out in Colombia, but that's not an option now. Depending on what further restrictions are placed, I'll either be in the US or Canada. I'll almost certainly be working until everything returns to normal.[/QUOTE]I have gone from a daily routine of walking around El Centro and taking Chicas up to the room for sessions, to now looking for paper products and food in a matter of a few days.

It's all surreal, I can't believe what's going on, and Colombia I believe will be going into shock in the next few weeks when they realize the gravity of things.

Last Friday night I had dinner with a friend in Provenza, and after dinner around 9 PM we decided to spend some time in Parque Lleras. Lots of Chicas on the prowl looking for clients, nicely dressed, not any stunners though, along with all kinds of people hanging out in the eating establishments / bars around the park and as happy as can be.

On Saturday I went to El Centro and hung out in the afternoon, and there was all kind of talent available for sessions with so many new Venezuelan's available along with the Colombians, it was rocking as usual.

On Sunday the 15th I had a flight from Medellin back to LA thru Bogota. I arrive in Bogota, and board the flight for LA, upon boarding I get a Whatsapp Message from a buddy. Colombia is now shutting down the Country to all foreigners, with only citizens and residents allowed in effective Monday the 16th. I may have gotten on one of the last few flights out of the Country back to the USA. So here I am on a seven hour flight from Bogota to LAX wearing an N95 mask which I didn't take off during the entire flight, meaning no food or liquids, pondering what the hell I was coming back to in the USA.

So on Monday morning I decide to start getting supplies for my home. I live within walking distance of five major stores in Southern California which include a Pavillions, a CVS Pharmacy, a Whole Foods, a Gelsons, and a Trader Joes. None of these stores had either paper towels, toilet paper, pasta's, rice, or dried vegetables, and hardly any fresh fruits or vegetables. And no fresh meats except the Gelsons which is a very high priced market but with a very limited supply. Most all frozen food products were out of stock and there were long lines at all the stores. And while walking around, people stayed clear of one another and just kind of smiled while holding their breath when passing one another.

In walking to each of the stores, I also noticed a lot of the eating places were closed along with all the schools and bars as well.

Then in the afternoon I heard that most other Central and South American Countries are shuttering their borders along with the Airlines such as LATAM shutting down 90% of their flights.

All of this within a matter of a few days. I cannot believe what is happening. It's surreal, like night and day.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2434779]Right, if you aren't here you don't have to think about it. For those who are here, a practical measure is to avoid the metro because that seems like a place you could pick it up. Maybe traffic will calm down because of this. I don't know, I have serious doubts about that.[/QUOTE]For those still in Medellin, avoiding the METRO as advised is a must. What is scary about the Metro is that if there is one infected person who coughs and sneeze's that person could potentially infect others being in a confined space and those who become infected infecting others who infect others like a "snowball".

One of the reasons I left Colombia is out of fear of what could occur if there are large breakouts of the virus in Medellin. With everything being shutdown there could be civil unrest, and coming down with the virus, needing medical attention is another issue.

[QUOTE=Combo;2434945]Plenty of Colombian guys will be glad to give them business, but they generally don't pay stupid gringo prices. The girls will survive.[/QUOTE]I am not sure if the girls will survive as you think. I suspect a lot of the Colombian guys will stop mongering being afraid to catch the virus, along with some of the Colombian girls also not electing to work.

I also think there will be plenty of very desperate Venezuelans working, and competing for clients. It will be a buyer's market for sure.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2435002]For those still in Medellin, avoiding the METRO as advised is a must. [/QUOTE]My average cab ride is $2.50 usd. I rarely, if ever, use the Metro LOL.

I've been doing a bit of research and the travel ban announced by Duque this evening is for all land, maritime and river crossings both in and out of Colombia, until the end of May. It does not concern air travel, which was not mentioned. So, in principal, you can still leave Colombia via Bogota airport, according to the report.

[URL]https://www.vanguardia.com/colombia/...imas-NX2145816[/URL]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2434997]

So on Monday morning I decide to start getting supplies for my home. I live within walking distance of five major stores in Southern California which include a Pavillions, a CVS Pharmacy, a Whole Foods, a Gelsons, and a Trader Joes. None of these stores had either paper towels, toilet paper, pasta's, rice, or dried vegetables, and hardly any fresh fruits or vegetables. And no fresh meats except the Gelsons which is a very high priced market but with a very limited supply. Most all frozen food products were out of stock and there were long lines at all the stores. And while walking around, people stayed clear of one another and just kind of smiled while holding their breath when passing one another.
. It's surreal, like night and day.[/QUOTE]Most grocery stores in my area keep restocking stuff, I have found that it is a matter of being in the right place at the right time. I go out everyday and hit different stores, some days I find some fresh meats, some days I find bread, its a little crazy but yea, you have to keep trying, I think at some point all the shithead hoarders are going to run out of space to put things and the grocer shelves will go back to normal.

Seems like I'm better off here in Bucaramanga! The supermarkets are busier than usual, but there's no shortage of anything! Is it really so different there? What about restaurants / fast food joints etc, are they operating normally?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2434937]However, seems like every "get it all in writing" monger has problems. They spend as much time arguing over the deal as they spend fucking. The girls all want to leave as soon as possible, or want to add extra charges.

Then again, I treat every chica like a human being instead of just something to fuck. They seem to appreciate that approach.[/QUOTE]You have problems also, doesn't matter how nice you are, or how good you are at screening. Bad service happens occasionally to all who deal with a number of hookers. That's for all of us that like strange. One can find a few good ones and stick only with them, but for those out seeking the new, some bad ones are going to slip through the cracks. It's the nature of the beast, and doesn't matter how skilled, in the know, humane, compassionate in response sick perrito stories, or over and above the typical monger one wants to make themselves sound on the internet. If you invite a lot over and negotiate only price, more than a few will insist on a CBJ, and / or are ready to go after one pop. You and others can claim this never happens but no one should believe you. Or perhaps you are content with all that, but some of us here aren't so we go for a bit more negotiation. And in contrast to all the posturing and hyperbole, plenty of us have high success rates while approaching things differently than you. Imagine that.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2434997]I have gone from a daily routine of walking around El Centro and taking Chicas up to the room for sessions, to now looking for paper products and food in a matter of a few days.

It's all surreal, I can't believe what's going on, and Colombia I believe will be going into shock in the next few weeks when they realize the gravity of things.

Last Friday night I had dinner with a friend in Provenza, and after dinner around 9 PM we decided to spend some time in Parque Lleras. Lots of Chicas on the prowl looking for clients, nicely dressed, not any stunners though, along with all kinds of people hanging out in the eating establishments / bars around the park and as happy as can be.

On Saturday I went to El Centro and hung out in the afternoon, and there was all kind of talent available for sessions with so many new Venezuelan's available along with the Colombians, it was rocking as usual.

On Sunday the 15th I had a flight from Medellin back to LA thru Bogota. I arrive in Bogota, and board the flight for LA, upon boarding I get a Whatsapp Message from a buddy. Colombia is now shutting down the Country to all foreigners, with only citizens and residents allowed in effective Monday the 16th. I may have gotten on one of the last few flights out of the Country back to the USA. So here I am on a seven hour flight from Bogota to LAX wearing an N95 mask which I didn't take off during the entire flight, meaning no food or liquids, pondering what the hell I was coming back to in the USA.

So on Monday morning I decide to start getting supplies for my home. I live within walking distance of five major stores in Southern California which include a Pavillions, a CVS Pharmacy, a Whole Foods, a Gelsons, and a Trader Joes. None of these stores had either paper towels, toilet paper, pasta's, rice, or dried vegetables, and hardly any fresh fruits or vegetables. And no fresh meats except the Gelsons which is a very high priced market but with a very limited supply. Most all frozen food products were out of stock and there were long lines at all the stores. And while walking around, people stayed clear of one another and just kind of smiled while holding their breath when passing one another.

In walking to each of the stores, I also noticed a lot of the eating places were closed along with all the schools and bars as well.

Then in the afternoon I heard that most other Central and South American Countries are shuttering their borders along with the Airlines such as LATAM shutting down 90% of their flights.

All of this within a matter of a few days. I cannot believe what is happening. It's surreal, like night and day.[/QUOTE]For the past 3 weeks I've been trying to get people here in the US to take this seriously. There are still people who think it's all "fake news", or who are still trying to compare it to the flu. Makes me want to scream.

We're in virgin territory. My wild guess is that the Dow will hit 15,000 within the next 2 weeks. I won't even pretend to have any idea where it goes from there. I'm also guessing that non-essential industries will be required to shutdown. Worldwide, economies are going to take a beating.

Don't panic. Even though this is a genuine panic situation, don't. Stay at home if possible, conserve your resources and look for alternative solutions.

Try checking Asian and Hispanic food stores. The big mega markets are getting hit harder. Try shopping in the early morning. We don't have any shortages yet, but the supply chain is overwhelmed. Grocery delivery truck drivers are reporting that the stores have products, but they don't have enough people to get it out and on the shelves. Only buy what you need, except I'd grab a few canned goods each time. Worst case, you can donate them to a food bank when the sky stops falling.

From the time China realized they had a problem, until the number of new cases dropped off was about 30 days. I believe, by the beginning of June, we'll be picking up the pieces and trying to rebuild normal.

I like to think I treat all my chicas as humans and not just as something to fuck. I tip the ones really well that treat me well but I've had lots of issues with FB girls. And yes haha, I have considers that maybe it's just me (I've been blaming it on my lack of Spanish but who knows). I've had both issues where I get it in writing and then the girl makes some kind of excuse / lie to get out of it. And I've had where I didn't get it in writing and the girl will point back to our conversation and tell me she never agreed to something. And when I'm getting it in writing, it's not usually a long discussion or a debate. It's usually just my second or 3rd message says I want you to stay for 2-3 hours, 2 shots and GFE and they usually just say yes and tell me a price. So I don't think I'm killing the mood or vibe with excessive negotiation.

What I have noticed from others reports is that it sounds like most successful fb sessions, people tend to hang out for half an hour with the girl before going into sex (either rappi, dancing, 2 si weed or alcohol etc). I think that may be my problem as I've always went straight into the sex (so I could take a break between my 2 shots). So I'm going to try that next time. I guess I just feel weird talking for a long time when I don't know Spanish and have to google translate everything we're saying. Anyone have any advice on the pre-sex hangout that'll make the girl not want to leave immediately after? Wow I sound like such a puss LOL.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2434937]Have you considered that maybe it's just you?

I've never gotten everything in writing. In fact, I rarely get anything other than a price in writing. And I don't have these problems. Girls aren't trying to change things, girls are almost never trying to leave before I'm ready for them to go. Some don't want to leave then. I never have girls immediately getting dressed to leave, or giving excuses why they need to leave. I've never had a girl try to charge more for something and I rarely have anything to complain about. A few aren't as GFE as I want, but only a few.

I never have issues with the girls I want not responding to my messages. I also don't need more than 6 or 7 messages to set things up. And I never end up needing to argue about things.

However, seems like every "get it all in writing" monger has problems. They spend as much time arguing over the deal as they spend fucking. The girls all want to leave as soon as possible, or want to add extra charges.

Then again, I treat every chica like a human being instead of just something to fuck. They seem to appreciate that approach.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2435104]It's usually just my second or 3rd message says I want you to stay for 2-3 hours, 2 shots and GFE and they usually just say yes and tell me a price. So I don't think I'm killing the mood or vibe with excessive negotiation.
[/QUOTE]Try Grown Man's approach. Tell them how much you will pay them (say 120K) and tell them if they make you think they are your girlfriend then you will give them a good tip. Then you can end up paying your usual price but have better service due to the incentive.

If I am somewhere like Tijuana where I need to be specific, then I always ask the price first. Then once they give me a price I tell them what I want for that price.

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2435104]I like to think I treat all my chicas as humans and not just as something to fuck. I tip the ones really well that treat me well but I've had lots of issues with FB girls. And yes haha, I have considers that maybe it's just me (I've been blaming it on my lack of Spanish but who knows). I've had both issues where I get it in writing and then the girl makes some kind of excuse / lie to get out of it. And I've had where I didn't get it in writing and the girl will point back to our conversation and tell me she never agreed to something. And when I'm getting it in writing, it's not usually a long discussion or a debate. It's usually just my second or 3rd message says I want you to stay for 2-3 hours, 2 shots and GFE and they usually just say yes and tell me a price. So I don't think I'm killing the mood or vibe with excessive negotiation.

What I have noticed from others reports is that it sounds like most successful fb sessions, people tend to hang out for half an hour with the girl before going into sex (either rappi, dancing, 2 si weed or alcohol etc). I think that may be my problem as I've always went straight into the sex (so I could take a break between my 2 shots). So I'm going to try that next time. I guess I just feel weird talking for a long time when I don't know Spanish and have to google translate everything we're saying. Anyone have any advice on the pre-sex hangout that'll make the girl not want to leave immediately after? Wow I sound like such a puss LOL.[/QUOTE]Mello Latin music, fruit salad, wine, appetizer food. 10 minute small talk, bring to you room give them a decent massage, if you eat pussy, then do that, whip out your dick and she will suck it and do whatever else you ask for the duration of the session. I accomplish this with minimal money, average place. I haven't gone over 200 k yet. And the only time I didn't cum was the condom broke and client got extremely upset since I was taking a long time to cum anyway.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2434466]I answered a specific question he asked..[/QUOTE]Girls from all venues if they can afford transportation work at lleras park. It's the largest and most expensive venue. Doesn't mean she's a 7 coming from el centro.

[URL]https://colombiareports.com/colombia-closes-land-and-sea-borders-after-restricting-air-travel/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2434997]I may have gotten on one of the last few flights out of the Country back to the USA. So here I am on a seven hour flight from Bogota to LAX wearing an N95 mask which I didn't take off during the entire flight, meaning no food or liquids, pondering what the hell I was coming back to in the USA.

[/QUOTE]There are still flights back to the USA from Colombia. I know folks that have booked and flown over the last couple of days.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2435166]Girls from all venues if they can afford transportation work at lleras park. It's the largest and most expensive venue. Doesn't mean she's a 7 coming from el centro.[/QUOTE]Some. Most don't.

Casa girls mostly stay with the casas. Strip club girls stay with the strip club. Many are on a tight schedule. They work while someone else can watch the kids, then go home before that person goes to work.

But sometimes, a friend who is working a different venue will drag them along and they'll get a taste of something better. Or someone will clue them in about Facebook.

Most of the girls aren't motivated. If they need 50 k, that's all they work for. If they make more, they'll either waste it or not work until the money runs out.

A few put in more effort so they can party more. They'll go wherever to make a buck and then blow it all trying to impress their friends.

A rare few are true hustlers. They make money, save it and use it to move up in the world. I know a few who either own their own business, or have branched out, into airport pickup, giving tours, etc.

Yes there are plenty of flights out. There are flights in too but you need residency or citizenship to be admitted. The weather is pleasant today but the drop in pollution and traffic I hoped for did not happen.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2435188]There are still flights back to the USA from Colombia. I know folks that have booked and flown over the last couple of days.[/QUOTE]

Great weather today. Was down in Centro for a nice casa run. Lot's of people in the streets. Bootleg masks being sold and you see more people wearing them, but, in general pretty much normal. A few other places around town things also seem normal. Had a great meal today at a restaurant I frequent. Things seem pretty good right now.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2435209]Some. Most don't.

Casa girls mostly stay with the casas. Strip club girls stay with the strip club. Many are on a tight schedule. They work while someone else can watch the kids, then go home before that person goes to work.

But sometimes, a friend who is working a different venue will drag them along and they'll get a taste of something better. Or someone will clue them in about Facebook.

Most of the girls aren't motivated. If they need 50 k, that's all they work for. If they make more, they'll either waste it or not work until the money runs out.

A few put in more effort so they can party more. They'll go wherever to make a buck and then blow it all trying to impress their friends.

A rare few are true hustlers. They make money, save it and use it to move up in the world. I know a few who either own their own business, or have branched out, into airport pickup, giving tours, etc.[/QUOTE]Legitimate reason. I am from the island but raised most of my life in the us. What is their weakness can be there unity. They rarely get to enjoy themselves independently. So when the opportunity strikes their shame that moment with their girl friends or boyfriends, whoever had their back and party like a rockstar. I have seen guys in Jamaica with less money than I have spend more money than me. Something to analyze and understand. But today I sex with my first 7. Met at Lleras. Approach. Ask for number left her alone. Tall, nice body, no kids, whitish looking. Blew her off couple days partly was sick, and partly wanted afternoon session. 220 k taxi included. I am sticking hard on taxi cost and you don't get unless you perform excellent. Told her the security guard is aware of the transaction if there's a problem we have to see him. She arrived an oh my god. She wanted food best I could do was fruit salad decorated, popcorn, wine, and my mixed romantic reggaeton music. She love it. 10 minute translation convo. Had her laughing while she was texting whoever. Kept showing her I was a gentleman. I have 2 floor apartment so had to remind her it's just me. She's safe. Then I said baby I want to give you a massage. She was nervous about turning on her back. So I just massage her front. She still wasn't relaxed. But when I ate that pussy good and she cum, I whipped that dick out and she suck that thing without a condom, giving her all. I was like me gusto, me encanto. Great experience. Jenni from Buenos Aires. Definite repeat.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2435260]Things seem pretty good right now.[/QUOTE]I hope it stays that way. If Colombia doesn't implement social distancing soon they will have a massive outbreak like the one in Italy.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2435278]I hope it stays that way. If Colombia doesn't implement social distancing soon they will have a massive outbreak like the one in Italy.[/QUOTE]Bars and clubs are closed here. Manizales implemented a 7 pm curfew so I wouldn't be surprised if they try that here too. They are encouraging social distancing like everywhere else. During the day, is the best time for casa runs or to set things up for the night at your place. Closing the border to tourists was a good step as far as the virus. Might last until June. Who knows.

Bars & clubs in upper strata barrios are closing. In Centro and even most of Laureles you would not know there is a pandemic. The night time traffic is noticeably lighter but the daytime rush hour is as much a pain in the ass as ever. I see more people wearing masks the past few days. Toilet paper is available everywhere but liquid hand soap is a little harder to find. Casas seem to be cutting back on hours.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2435283]Bars and clubs are closed here. Manizales implemented a 7 pm curfew so I wouldn't be surprised if they try that here too. They are encouraging social distancing like everywhere else. During the day, is the best time for casa runs or to set things up for the night at your place. Closing the border to tourists was a good step as far as the virus. Might last until June. Who knows.[/QUOTE]

Maybe I am naive but do grown men seriously travel on a five day budget?

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2434966]If you stayed home, count your blessings. Not all of the monger population is aware of this forum.

Imagine having to lock down in Colombia for 14 nights. When you only budgeted for 5.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2435209]Some. Most don't.

Casa girls mostly stay with the casas. Strip club girls stay with the strip club. Many are on a tight schedule. They work while someone else can watch the kids, then go home before that person goes to work.

But sometimes, a friend who is working a different venue will drag them along and they'll get a taste of something better. Or someone will clue them in about Facebook.

Most of the girls aren't motivated. If they need 50 k, that's all they work for. If they make more, they'll either waste it or not work until the money runs out.

A few put in more effort so they can party more. They'll go wherever to make a buck and then blow it all trying to impress their friends.

A rare few are true hustlers. They make money, save it and use it to move up in the world. I know a few who either own their own business, or have branched out, into airport pickup, giving tours, etc.[/QUOTE]I could not have summed it up any better than you have. This is the way life works with the chicas here in Medellin.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2435283]Bars and clubs are closed here. Manizales implemented a 7 pm curfew so I wouldn't be surprised if they try that here too. They are encouraging social distancing like everywhere else. During the day, is the best time for casa runs or to set things up for the night at your place. Closing the border to tourists was a good step as far as the virus. Might last until June. Who knows.[/QUOTE]At some point, and probably before the end of the week, most, if not all of the casa's will close, not by choice of the owner's, but because the girls will be scared. I also predict that foreigners in Medellin will have a hard time hooking up with new first time Fay Boo Chicas for the same reason.

So at this point for guys with previously established Chicas, that will be one source, along with desperate Venezuelan's and Colombians working El Centro, unless the area get's shut down somehow or "policed". Please let everyone know what you see.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2435017]Most grocery stores in my area keep restocking stuff, I have found that it is a matter of being in the right place at the right time. I go out everyday and hit different stores, some days I find some fresh meats, some days I find bread, its a little crazy but yea, you have to keep trying, I think at some point all the shithead hoarders are going to run out of space to put things and the grocer shelves will go back to normal.[/QUOTE]This has been exactly my experience today and I finally was able to get some pasta products and rice along with paper towels after going to six different markets.

I don't know what part of the Country you live in, but I live in Southern California, and Northern California is getting hit very hard with basically heavily isolation orders in different Counties.

The thing that worries me is how long some of the workers will keep showing up to work to stock the grocery shelves. If the government is shutting everything down like all bars. Eating places, gyms, business's and City hall's to maintain distancing, I would be reluctant to go to work being exposed to people. A perfect example is that there are courts where Jurors have refused to show up out of fear, hence shutting the capacity to conduct trials.

It's mind boggling to say the least and people are starting to have frayed nerves over the whole situation. Today I showed up at a Trader Joe's at 8;30 AM and got in line waiting for the store to open at 9 AM. A lady in front of the guy in front of me said to the guy who was standing alone minding his own business that he needed to maintain his distance and he hadn't moved or done anything and he just responded to her saying that she was being rude.

Then later in the day while I was in a Pavillons, I went to the back of the store and asked a clerk when the next shipment of paper towels was coming in and she said stay away and I don't know because I was wearing a mask. And all day in all the stores I went to, very few were wearing a mask, and I think a lot of people thought I was sick. It almost seems that nobody is taking this very seriously as it almost sounds to hard to believe but it's true.

I finally got stocked up with enough supplies to easily last for three months without out ever having to leave my home, so after being back now for two days, I feel much more comfortable.

I doubt I would feel as comfortable in Medellin, but sure do miss the place, and plan on being on the first plane back when it's safe to do so.

I would love to tell you that I'm having a crappy time, I would love to tell you that the streets of centro are bare, I would love to tell you that I am having so many problems that I have decided to start visiting casas, Strip joints, and Fase II, but nope, I am having the time of my life banging 4-5 chics a day for under $400,000 pesos. Since the financial drop in the Pesos, many Colombians are trying to become smarter by changing the price on items and it makes for bad business.

For example: I bought pesos in Dec, Jan, and Feb—at a rate of 3400 pesos to the dollar, I never griped, I took what they gave me, now that the rate is at 4100 to the dollars, these Colombian businesses are trying to tack on $15,000 pesos here and there, I do not like it at all, but I am tolerating it. Imagine me going back to the exchange place or BOA and asking for today's rate and on all of the pesos I bought in Dec, Jan, and Feb? But that's another story.

If you have established a relationship with any of the girls you should have no problem getting these girls to do anything you want them to do. And I literally mean anything. I have girls in centro begging me for dates and I just walk by them and politely tell them no! I have had far too many issues with the Vennies and now I am down to about 4 of them that I will even consider, the rest are just done for it, regardless of how nice they look, take it from me, the Vennies are just way too many problems unless you can bang them on site, I usually cannot. There are too many robberies, fights, extortion attempts and too much unnecessary games being played with the mongers in Centro right now. I can honestly tell you that not giving them dates, is really working, girls who wouldn't even speak are super polite in the park now. No matter whom you are one way or another, you have to eat, and it if working in Centro is your job, so be it, but you better have social skills cause the pesos are getting slim, very fast.

You have no idea how good it feels to be here for 90 days and can pick and choose who you want to bang and not worry about a damn thing. I see the desperation in the girls in the park and with all of the games they played and swindling paying clients out of money, it serves them all good, maybe they will run the bad apples off.

P.S., no one has robbed me or done anything to me, but many of my friends have talked to me and showed me how many times many of the Vennies have tried to lure them into traps and the truth is, you have a simple job, bang your client, attempt to satisfy him and go home, but no, many of these girls want to scopolamine mongers, extort mongers, steal phone chargers, just all kinds of unnecessary foolishness. I can guarantee you; the few girls that I am seeing clearly got the message that on this trip if they are any problems, you will get no second dates with me. All of my dates have been extremely great, they have went far and beyond, all holes open, any request met, have no complaints. My refrigerator is full and stocked and I am still earning incredible American Money, couldn't ask for more, Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2435303]Maybe I am naive but do grown men seriously travel on a five day budget?[/QUOTE]When the country opens back up for business, you could always take your clipboard to customs and ask the many inbound grown men passengers.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2435335]This has been exactly my experience today and I finally was able to get some pasta products and rice along with paper towels after going to six different markets.

I don't know what part of the Country you live in, but I live in Southern California, and Northern California is getting hit very hard with basically heavily isolation orders in different Counties.

The thing that worries me is how long some of the workers will keep showing up to work to stock the grocery shelves.

I finally got stocked up with enough supplies to easily last for three months without out ever having to leave my home, so after being back now for two days, I feel much more comfortable.

I doubt I would feel as comfortable in Medellin, but sure do miss the place, and plan on being on the first plane back when it's safe to do so.[/QUOTE]I live in the midwest more or less and I have to say that other than hearing a few customers panicking about the end of the world, every person working in the grocery stores are on it, they have a disinfectant system set up to go behind everyone. The clerk at the store probably thought you were sick because they have been telling people not to wear masks unless you are sick. I work in healthcare so I already had N95 rated masks. The problem with them is they do not seal unless they are fitted for you so I seal the bastard with white medical tape.

I have not seen paper towels on the shelf here for a week at least. I managed to get an order of TP from Amazon but now even they are out. I may have enough groceries to last two weeks so sounds like you did good. I am going back out tomorrow and trying again.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2435335]

I finally got stocked up with enough supplies to easily last for three months without out ever having to leave my home, so after being back now for two days, I feel much more comfortable.

I doubt I would feel as comfortable in Medellin, but sure do miss the place, and plan on being on the first plane back when it's safe to do so.[/QUOTE]Same feelings here. Stocked, ready to wait it out and can't wait to be on the first plane back when I feel it's safe.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2435488]Same feelings here. Stocked, ready to wait it out and can't wait to be on the first plane back when I feel it's safe.[/QUOTE]I was in Medellin two weeks ago weighing the pros (is that a pun) and the cons of riding this thing out down there. I'm home and think (for me) I made the correct decision. When this is over, perhaps we can charter our own jet LOL.

You don't have to charter a flight. There are many ways to get here. You might be subject to a 14 day quarantine. I'm not sure how that is being enforced.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2435522]I was in Medellin two weeks ago weighing the pros (is that a pun) and the cons of riding this thing out down there. I'm home and think (for me) I made the correct decision. When this is over, perhaps we can charter our own jet LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2435335]I finally got stocked up with enough supplies to easily last for three months without out ever having to leave my home, so after being back now for two days, I feel much more comfortable.

I doubt I would feel as comfortable in Medellin, but sure do miss the place, and plan on being on the first plane back when it's safe to do so.[/QUOTE]I'm in Northern California, mandatory work from home, all public gatherings have been banned. I didn't stock up anything besides a fine bottle of whiskey. All delivery services are still available and you can still get take out from most of the restaurants. What bothered me the most is the gyms are closed, I have run and do strength training outside everyday now. I know I will be more comfortable in Medellin. Now I'm fucking girls in their late 20's and early 30's, I feel sorry for my dick. I can't wait to go back to Medellin.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2435533]You don't have to charter a flight. There are many ways to get here. You might be subject to a 14 day quarantine. I'm not sure how that is being enforced.[/QUOTE]Is there a way to get into Medellin now? I don't mind the 14 day quarantine, as long as I can get into the country. I can show them my recent test results that I don't have the virus.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2435327]At some point, and probably before the end of the week, most, if not all of the casa's will close, not by choice of the owner's, but because the girls will be scared. I also predict that foreigners in Medellin will have a hard time hooking up with new first time Fay Boo Chicas for the same reason.

[/QUOTE]I was talking to the managers of the cases and several of the girls in various cases yesterday and they told me they will continue to be open as usual. As far as girls being scared of foreigners, I think it depends on the individuals involved. As far as freelance chicas, the same thing probably applies.

This is a great time to be in Medellin from a mongering perspective since the economy and peso are taking a hit. I had a great session yesterday, BBBJ and all, didn't notice a difference. Gustos and those spots are closed.

Still plenty of chicas walking around Lleras and Centro. Haven't been to Mayorista in a long time, but I would think it is the same there. With the blockade, there are less gringos around so might even be a good time to check out New Life LOL. The girls are seeing less gringos now just by virtue of the ban so I think that will alleviate some of the Xenophobia.

Lots of paper towels and toilet paper but liquid bath and hand soap are out of stock in two D1's I tried. Exito told me to come back today and sure enough they had restocked most brands.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2435408]I live in the midwest more or less and I have to say that other than hearing a few customers panicking about the end of the world, every person working in the grocery stores are on it, they have a disinfectant system set up to go behind everyone. The clerk at the store probably thought you were sick because they have been telling people not to wear masks unless you are sick. I work in healthcare so I already had N95 rated masks. The problem with them is they do not seal unless they are fitted for you so I seal the bastard with white medical tape.

I have not seen paper towels on the shelf here for a week at least. I managed to get an order of TP from Amazon but now even they are out. I may have enough groceries to last two weeks so sounds like you did good. I am going back out tomorrow and trying again.[/QUOTE]

Same, but I suppose it would not be expensive to get a flight out of town today.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2435546]I was talking to the managers of the cases and several of the girls in various cases yesterday and they told me they will continue to be open as usual. As far as girls being scared of foreigners, I think it depends on the individuals involved. As far as freelance chicas, the same thing probably applies.

This is a great time to be in Medellin from a mongering perspective since the economy and peso are taking a hit. I had a great session yesterday, BBBJ and all, didn't notice a difference. Gustos and those spots are closed.

Still plenty of chicas walking around Lleras and Centro. Haven't been to Mayorista in a long time, but I would think it is the same there. With the blockade, there are less gringos around so might even be a good time to check out New Life LOL. The girls are seeing less gringos now just by virtue of the ban so I think that will alleviate some of the Xenophobia.[/QUOTE]

Check [URL]expedia.com[/URL] when you have time.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2435544]Is there a way to get into Medellin now? I don't mind the 14 day quarantine, as long as I can get into the country. I can show them my recent test results that I don't have the virus.[/QUOTE]

Well, yes, of course everybody wants to be here. I am a little surprised to see guys outlining logic for what I personally would regret. Being stuck in a cold climate scrounging for soap, food, and toilet paper. Everybody's situation is different, there is no wrong or right answer. If I thought I would be at more risk for getting coronavirus or not have access to a doctor, or if I were in poor health to begin with I would probably have blown town. I'm happy to be where I am.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2435546]I was talking to the managers of the cases and several of the girls in various cases yesterday and they told me they will continue to be open as usual. As far as girls being scared of foreigners, I think it depends on the individuals involved. As far as freelance chicas, the same thing probably applies.

This is a great time to be in Medellin from a mongering perspective since the economy and peso are taking a hit. I had a great session yesterday, BBBJ and all, didn't notice a difference. Gustos and those spots are closed.

Still plenty of chicas walking around Lleras and Centro. Haven't been to Mayorista in a long time, but I would think it is the same there. With the blockade, there are less gringos around so might even be a good time to check out New Life LOL. The girls are seeing less gringos now just by virtue of the ban so I think that will alleviate some of the Xenophobia.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SJobs;2435544]Is there a way to get into Medellin now? I don't mind the 14 day quarantine, as long as I can get into the country. I can show them my recent test results that I don't have the virus.[/QUOTE]Fly to Panama City. Assuming you can still do that. Rent a car. Abandon it in Colon. Find someone with a boat. Negotiate with them to take you to Turbo, Colombia. Catch a bus from Turbo to Medellin. Bring lots of cash.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2435544]Is there a way to get into Medellin now? I don't mind the 14 day quarantine, as long as I can get into the country. I can show them my recent test results that I don't have the virus.[/QUOTE]You've seen all the reports / articles posted over the past couple days. You're being ridiculous. All foreigners are barred entry until June 1. You're life sound horrible man, you're stuck fucking late 20's chicks, oh the horror! LOL.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2435561]Well, yes, of course everybody wants to be here. I am a little surprised to see guys outlining logic for what I personally would regret. Being stuck in a cold climate scrounging for soap, food, and toilet paper. Everybody's situation is different, there is no wrong or right answer. If I thought I would be at more risk for getting coronavirus or not have access to a doctor, or if I were in poor health to begin with I would probably have blown town. I'm happy to be where I am.[/QUOTE]I was having 50000 promotional session at a casa and the chica refused to let me come on her. I don't know if this was due to coronavirus or she was just being lazy and a pain. But she was quite good 3/4 of the way. Looking for tall Colombian girls. 5 6 or taller. Where can I find them.

Without silicon.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2435592]Fly to Panama City. Assuming you can still do that. Rent a car. Abandon it in Colon. Find someone with a boat. Negotiate with them to take you to Turbo, Colombia. Catch a bus from Turbo to Medellin. Bring lots of cash.[/QUOTE]Should I learn some Spanish first? Or should I just go around and expect everyone along the way to speak English?

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2435605]You've seen all the reports / articles posted over the past couple days. You're being ridiculous. All foreigners are barred entry until June 1. You're life sound horrible man, you're stuck fucking late 20's chicks, oh the horror! LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah man, it has been three weeks since I got back from Medellin, life here sucks. I can't believe I have to wait for another 10 weeks. I guess it is not possible to bribe the immigration people at the airport, especially without any Spanish speaking skills. I once bribed an immigration officer at the Nairobi airport in Kenya; I didn't bring some of the vaccination papers. For the record, I did took the vaccination shot in the states, I just didn't bring the papers. I guess I will just go back to fuck the girls in their late 20's, in 10 weeks I will make it up to my cock by throwing a nonstop 3-day party in Medellin.

For dudes that never been to Gustos.

[URL]https://youtu.be/w1z1lX9VYq4[/URL]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2435649]For dudes that never been to Gustos.

[URL]https://youtu.be/w1z1lX9VYq4.[/URL][/QUOTE]Bad link even after correcting [URL]youtube.com[/URL].

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2435654]Bad link even after correcting [URL]youtube.com[/URL].[/QUOTE][URL]https://youtu.be/w1z1lX9VYq4[/URL]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2435657][URL]https://youtu.be/w1z1lX9VYq4[/URL][/QUOTE]So what? It's a clip joint where chicas want 200 USD for short time. Go to Cartagena and you get much better pussy from all over for cheaper.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2435664]So what? [/QUOTE]Stated up front ... for dudes that have never been to get an idea of what it is.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2435664]So what? It's a clip joint where chicas want 200 USD for short time. Go to Cartagena and you get much better pussy from all over for cheaper.[/QUOTE]Looking at that video and from my personal experience, I didn't see a woman that I would be willing to pay 150 k for let alone the obscene price that they quote in that joint. This goes for La Isla also. Saw one girl in La Isla that was fuckable. But her price and her entitled attitude (which I understand because dudes were calling her left and right and her tip run lasted like a good 2 hours) was a complete turn-off. And that's what you get at these high-class joints for anyone clueless on this. Save your fucking time and hit up Facebook, Centro, tinder, and whatever else you can find for reasonable prices.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2435546]I was talking to the managers of the cases and several of the girls in various cases yesterday and they told me they will continue to be open as usual. As far as girls being scared of foreigners, I think it depends on the individuals involved. As far as freelance chicas, the same thing probably applies.

This is a great time to be in Medellin from a mongering perspective since the economy and peso are taking a hit. I had a great session yesterday, BBBJ and all, didn't notice a difference. Gustos and those spots are closed.

Still plenty of chicas walking around Lleras and Centro. Haven't been to Mayorista in a long time, but I would think it is the same there. With the blockade, there are less gringos around so might even be a good time to check out New Life LOL. The girls are seeing less gringos now just by virtue of the ban so I think that will alleviate some of the Xenophobia.[/QUOTE]Hopefully for you, things will not worsen much with the scare from the virus. IF it does occur, there will always be the Venezuelans in El Centro, and at bargain basement pricing.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2435649]For dudes that never been to Gustos.

[URL]https://youtu.be/w1z1lX9VYq4[/URL][/QUOTE]That place is complete bullshit. Not only is Gustos complete bullshit, one day, mark my words, it's going to be a fire disaster there. I hope not, but it is a disaster waiting to happen.

I live in Meddy and rarely go to Lleras other than to dance some salsa at a spot I like around there. But I posted the vid because I found it interesting since I've never been to Gustos and thought others that have never been might want to see what it looks like inside.

I was in Cartagena last month and stoped by my spot Donde Fidel by the Clock Tower and saw the chicas out there as well but I didn't monger while on the coast.

Probably will go visit a friend that lives downtown near crack head row Veracruz and EL Raudal tomorrow, so I'll see what's out there and Prado as well. Always good to visit friends that live in different parts of town.

Got a buddy that lives in a ridiculously fly apartment in Las Palmas right near La Isla but have never been to La Isla either, when I've gone to his crib to watch sports.

Colombia has something for everyone.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2435664]So what? It's a clip joint where chicas want 200 USD for short time. Go to Cartagena and you get much better pussy from all over for cheaper.[/QUOTE]Ditto that or do what floats my boat like I did last night, social distancing intact, at 8 pm I drove to centro and down the Vera and found my 22 yo thin paisa (she changed her whatsapp) and she hopped in and 2 minutes later in the love motel, 2-3 hours and I was completely spent, unloaded in her sweet pussy and damage was 22 mil for the room and gave her 85 mil, everyone was happy.

Damn and I slept good last night.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2435401]I would love to tell you that I'm having a crappy time, I would love to tell you that the streets of centro are bare, I would love to tell you that I am having so many problems that I have decided to start visiting casas, Strip joints, and Fase II, but nope, I am having the time of my life banging 4-5 chics a day for under $400,000 pesos. Since the financial drop in the Pesos, many Colombians are trying to become smarter by changing the price on items and it makes for bad business.

For example: I bought pesos in Dec, Jan, and Febat a rate of 3400 pesos to the dollar, I never griped, I took what they gave me, now that the rate is at 4100 to the dollars, these Colombian businesses are trying to tack on $15,000 pesos here and there, I do not like it at all, but I am tolerating it. Imagine me going back to the exchange place or BOA and asking for today's rate and on all of the pesos I bought in Dec, Jan, and Feb? But that's another story.

If you have established a relationship with any of the girls you should have no problem getting these girls to do anything you want them to do. And I literally mean anything. I have girls in centro begging me for dates and I just walk by them and politely tell them no! I have had far too many issues with the Vennies and now I am down to about 4 of them that I will even consider, the rest are just done for it, regardless of how nice they look, take it from me, the Vennies are just way too many problems unless you can bang them on site, I usually cannot. There are too many robberies, fights, extortion attempts and too much unnecessary games being played with the mongers in Centro right now. I can honestly tell you that not giving them dates, is really working, girls who wouldn't even speak are super polite in the park now. No matter whom you are one way or another, you have to eat, and it if working in Centro is your job, so be it, but you better have social skills cause the pesos are getting slim, very fast.[/QUOTE]Love it too! They need you, we need you here in centro, to train these putas how to take care of a customer!

Love the preggie in the 5th photo. I need her today just to play with. I will send you a message.

Thanks PN! The Tall Man.

Amen brother, keep spitting that truth.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2435679]Looking at that video and from my personal experience, I didn't see a woman that I would be willing to pay 150 k for let alone the obscene price that they quote in that joint. This goes for La Isla also. Saw one girl in La Isla that was fuckable. But her price and her entitled attitude (which I understand because dudes were calling her left and right and her tip run lasted like a good 2 hours) was a complete turn-off. And that's what you get at these high-class joints for anyone clueless on this. Save your fucking time and hit up Facebook, Centro, tinder, and whatever else you can find for reasonable prices.[/QUOTE]

Yesterday in Centro something struck me after about half an hour. The guided tours are gone. I guess it makes sense, no need for them with so few tourists around. Other than that, it's business as usual.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2435699]I live in Meddy and rarely go to Lleras other than to dance some salsa at a spot I like around there. But I posted the vid because I found it interesting since I've never been to Gustos and thought others that have never been might want to see what it looks like inside.

I was in Cartagena last month and stoped by my spot Donde Fidel by the Clock Tower and saw the chicas out there as well but I didn't monger while on the coast.

Probably will go visit a friend that lives downtown near crack head row Veracruz and EL Raudal tomorrow, so I'll see what's out there and Prado as well. Always good to visit friends that live in different parts of town.

Got a buddy that lives in a ridiculously fly apartment in Las Palmas right near La Isla but have never been to La Isla either, when I've gone to his crib to watch sports.

Colombia has something for everyone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2435797]Ditto that or do what floats my boat like I did last night, social distancing intact, at 8 pm I drove to centro and down the Vera and found my 22 yo thin paisa (she changed her whatsapp) and she hopped in and 2 minutes later in the love motel, 2-3 hours and I was completely spent, unloaded in her sweet pussy and damage was 22 mil for the room and gave her 85 mil, everyone was happy.

Damn and I slept good last night.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Sounds like my exact experience last Saturday, however I dumped two loads in my Colombian sweetheart, and now I'm California stocking up for the Holocaust. Maybe I should of stayed in Medellin, I'm going thru withdrawals right now, and sounds like I may not get back for a long, long, time.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2435806]Yesterday in Centro something struck me after about half an hour. The guided tours are gone. I guess it makes sense, no need for them with so few tourists around. Other than that, it's business as usual.[/QUOTE]Hopefully it will stay that way, you wouldn't want to be in California right now.

I did a casa run yesterday. I wanted to hit up Amigas Sexxxy but a friend called who wanted to meet for pizza and beer (Pizzeria Centro is a gem by the way, very authentic. Calle 57 #41-57) so I detoured Aiffe where there was a decent lineup. I went with a newish faux redhead with a cracking body. All good, I worked up a nice appetite.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2435680]Hopefully for you, things will not worsen much with the scare from the virus. IF it does occur, there will always be the Venezuelans in El Centro, and at bargain basement pricing.[/QUOTE]

With no gringos them ladies will go the extra mile or be very available for the ones that are too busy before. I'm also sure the 150 or 200 mil rate can be dropped because 1 their family isn't working and 2 no gringos to overpay. Also with the dollar peso rate rate being 4 k, I would kill it there. It's the perfect time. Lucky fuckers, if you are still there. I envy you.

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;2435946]With no gringos them ladies will go the extra mile or be very available for the ones that are too busy before. I'm also sure the 150 or 200 mil rate can be dropped because 1 their family isn't working and 2 no gringos to overpay. Also with the dollar peso rate rate being 4 k, I would kill it there. It's the perfect time. Lucky fuckers, if you are still there. I envy you.[/QUOTE]It might get real tight around here if this thing drags out with restaurants, clubs, tourism etc. Jobs not generating income. People might become really desperate at some point. Hopefully, it doesn't get too bad but people have to eat and feed their kids. This might affect chicas, prices and everything else.

There are some new faces around ground zero and overall more girls out earlier than usual. I don't have any information about the six figure facebook girls, not my scene.

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;2435946]With no gringos them ladies will go the extra mile or be very available for the ones that are too busy before. I'm also sure the 150 or 200 mil rate can be dropped because 1 their family isn't working and 2 no gringos to overpay. Also with the dollar peso rate rate being 4 k, I would kill it there. It's the perfect time. Lucky fuckers, if you are still there. I envy you.[/QUOTE]

I saw something on the Internet today about the United States that I hope is not true. Gun sales are at historic highs. That is scary if it's true.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2435898]Hopefully it will stay that way, you wouldn't want to be in California right now.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2435592]Fly to Panama City. Assuming you can still do that. Rent a car. Abandon it in Colon. Find someone with a boat. Negotiate with them to take you to Turbo, Colombia. Catch a bus from Turbo to Medellin. Bring lots of cash.[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=SJobs;2435636]Should I learn some Spanish first? Or should I just go around and expect everyone along the way to speak English?[/QUOTE]Everyone will speak perfect english and be very kind and not rob you, LOL.

Are you for real man?

Just calm down, bang your 30 year olds, just maybe pick up a spanish book, better yet, with the money you're saving now, get a personal tutor.

Life will get back to normal, Colombia will open it's borders again and you'll be alright.

Layoffs have already started in Europe and the Americas. I don't see the situation changing until a vaccine or treatment is available. It's obviously not sustainable to shut down the global economy. I believe a vaccine would already be available if not for greedy elements intent on getting an advantageous position for profits. The poor will as usual get the worst of it. High interest rates, lower quality goods, and potential starvation.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2435951]It might get real tight around here if this thing drags out with restaurants, clubs, tourism etc. Jobs not generating income. People might become really desperate at some point. Hopefully, it doesn't get too bad but people have to eat and feed their kids. This might affect chicas, prices and everything else.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;2435946]With no gringos them ladies will go the extra mile or be very available for the ones that are too busy before. I'm also sure the 150 or 200 mil rate can be dropped because 1 their family isn't working and 2 no gringos to overpay. Also with the dollar peso rate rate being 4 k, I would kill it there. It's the perfect time. Lucky fuckers, if you are still there. I envy you.[/QUOTE]State Department is warning Americans not to travel abroad and for those abroad to come home:

[URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/19/coronavirus-travel-advisory-level-four-137227[/URL]

Do you think they may have info that the public is not aware of? Like this thing kicking into a higher gear?

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/mucha-atencion-gobernador-ratifica-cuarentena-por-la-vida-para-este-fin-semana-todo-antioquia/989038/[/URL]

It is decreed:

Article 1. Decree a QUARANTINE for life in the entire jurisdiction of the Department of Antioquia from 7:00 pm On Friday, March 20,2020 until 3:00 am.

On Tuesday, March 24 of the same year, for which The movement of people and vehicles is prohibited, in order to contain the spread of the COVID-19 virus.

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;2435946]With no gringos them ladies will go the extra mile or be very available for the ones that are too busy before. I'm also sure the 150 or 200 mil rate can be dropped because 1 their family isn't working and 2 no gringos to overpay. Also with the dollar peso rate rate being 4 k, I would kill it there. It's the perfect time. Lucky fuckers, if you are still there. I envy you.[/QUOTE]

The government announced a shut down tonight for Antioquia starting tomorrow at 7 pm and continuing until Tuesday. No more arrivals or departures from Monday in Colombia, including Colombian nationals. 0.

I don't know if you guys are still keen to come down here but I feel the mood changing. Had a few chicas over this week and they are all worried about the virus. I have 24 hour porteros in my apartment block and two of them are going to live here during the shut down to make sure they are on duty. The vibe towards extranjeros is changing, 40 were deported today for breaking the isolation period.

Yes the prices could be cheaper right now but from tomorrow at 7 pm until Tuesday you can't even be in the streets let alone have a chica over. I'm trying to fly out on Saturday, Medellin right now is not the place to be, if you somehow make it down here be prepared to have forced quarantine in your hotel for 14 days and a bunch of nervous chicas on your hands.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2435592]Fly to Panama City. Assuming you can still do that. Rent a car. Abandon it in Colon. Find someone with a boat. Negotiate with them to take you to Turbo, Colombia. Catch a bus from Turbo to Medellin. Bring lots of cash.[/QUOTE]Panama restricts the entry of foreigners to the country.

[URL]https://ticotimes.net/2020/03/16/panama-restricts-the-entry-of-foreigners-to-the-country?fbclid=IwAR2ZNqxty6oQeyLy6jcfNPfx6RWRqEWFIl6h1-iwA6ZENNQT5eyj2oI7FEM[/URL]

[QUOTE=Balboa;2435963]Everyone will speak perfect english and be very kind and not rob you, LOL.

Are you for real man?

Just calm down, bang your 30 year olds, just maybe pick up a spanish book, better yet, with the money you're saving now, get a personal tutor.

Life will get back to normal, Colombia will open it's borders again and you'll be alright.[/QUOTE]My inquiry is as serious as JB's reply. I did hire a personal Spanish tutor, I can't wait to go back to Medellin to show off my Spanish.

I wish I have made my way to Panama; instead of renting a car, I will buy a gorgeous dark-horse from the local ranch and name her skin-deep, I will ride skin-deep to Colon, probably pick up a few hot chicas along the way. Rather than looking for an English speaking boat owner in Colon, I will teach skin-deep to walk on water from youtube. I will practice my Spanish while skin-deep carries me through the water. Once we reach Turbo, I will trade my beloved skin-deep for a bus ticket to Medellin, a. K. a heaven. (I can't ride skin-deep to Medellin, my eleven 18-year-old girlfriends will inevitably develop envy towards this loyal and beautiful creature, I don't want to witness a Shakespearean ending.) I don't need much cash for this glorified journey. I will rely on my irresistible charm, my profound wisdom, and my impeccable Spanish.

Man, I'm just bored out of my mind. I wish I have never stepped on that first flight to Medellin. On a serious note, some of my favorite FB girls are asking for money now. They did put up an honest and legit reason. Before I left Medellin three and a half weeks ago, I promised them that I would come back in April. While I'm in Medellin, there are six girls whom I see at least twice per week. I have spent three weeks in Medellin in every two months since October last year, those girls have adjusted their lifestyle because of the steady source of revenue coming from me. They are requesting money now because I can't go back to Medellin for another two and a half months, this has caused a significant disruption in their source of income, and they want some help.

If they come to me with a sad story about a sick grandma or not able to pay rent, I would tell them that an evil power just brought Hilter back from hell. I need to fight the Nazi to save humanity and my family and my dog, once the battle is over, I will have time to consider mundane circumstances as a dying grandma. Then I will immediately ask them to donate to the war on Nazi, so far none of the chicas gave me any money, but I will keep on trying. However, this time my FB chicas are honest about their situation, and they are asking for such a small amount of money, I've considered sending them something.

After some back and forth reasoning, here is my conclusion. If I send them the money, it will encourage them to keep their price tag high and maintain their clientele standard. I like the idea of having a set of clientele that they are comfortable with, but I also have to keep the general well-fair of the fellow mongers in mind.

If you are the luck a few in Medellin right now, I can assure you that you can find a very high-quality gem at a bargain price. Girls who never reply to your message or asking for 400 k+ on FB will lower their price and accept your friend request. I got girls accepting my two months old friend request on FB every day now. Brothers, please enjoy this golden time in Medellin; I envy you guys. I will not throw in money to ruin your fun, but please treat those 18-year-old princesses with the generosity and respect they deserve.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2435679]Looking at that video and from my personal experience, I didn't see a woman that I would be willing to pay 150 k for let alone the obscene price that they quote in that joint. This goes for La Isla also. Saw one girl in La Isla that was fuckable. But her price and her entitled attitude (which I understand because dudes were calling her left and right and her tip run lasted like a good 2 hours) was a complete turn-off. And that's what you get at these high-class joints for anyone clueless on this. Save your fucking time and hit up Facebook, Centro, tinder, and whatever else you can find for reasonable prices.[/QUOTE]I agree Gusto girls are not worth it; it is hard for me to admit this since I use to be the champion for Gusto girls, but I succumb to reality. However, Gusto is a perfect place to party, the DJ there is excellent, and the facility is the best in Lleras. In my opinion, the best way to enjoy Gusto is to bring a girl from the Mansion or FB there; you can easily find a hot girl on FB who tops all Gusto girls for 350 K, you can party all night there + have sex at 4 am + morning sex + afternoon sex.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2435649]For dudes that never been to Gustos.

[URL]https://youtu.be/w1z1lX9VYq4[/URL][/QUOTE]Another place that from time to time has over 100 girls during one of their parties: The Mansion. I happened to be at one about 5 years ago during the 4th of July party. Again, over 100+ girls, games, food, free flowing liquor, lots of fun. They had a photo session with a lot of the girls dressed in bikinis and for me one stood out: She was much taller than the other girls, long legs, tiny waist, be sized cups, round, plump rear end. I had to have her, it was my last night in Medellin. She saw me drooling at her attributes, so she was playing hard to get. So, I arranged for an allnighter for COP400 K. One of my best sessions ever, she was all of that and then some. Four shots on goal and I was already worn out. Notice the price, COP400 K. This brings me back to Gustos. Not one of the girls there can compare to the find of that night. Plus the asking price of $200 US (COP800 K for an hour or two?). I'm grateful for the insight. Someone else may love what they see.

I believe the USA State Department announcement is a response to intense criticism from USA Nationals who report they are unable to get consular services or even contact embassies. This announcement says "you are on your own if you stay where the State Department is obligated to service you in exchange for the tax dollars we will continue collecting from you". As far as secret information, I'm not sure what that can be since worldwide media is constantly reporting about the growing number of infections. Unless I misinterpret what has been confirmed by various organizations including the USA CDC and WHO, 2 out of 10 infected people will develop symptoms that range from severe to fatal, and most of that 20% are elderly and / or suffer from pre-existing conditions. What did I miss?

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2435968]State Department is warning Americans not to travel abroad and for those abroad to come home:

[URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/19/coronavirus-travel-advisory-level-four-137227[/URL]

Do you think they may have info that the public is not aware of? Like this thing kicking into a higher gear?[/QUOTE]

Rappi is still operating. The government considers them "essential workers". I feel the same about them.

[QUOTE=ElViajero;2436044]The government announced a shut down tonight for Antioquia starting tomorrow at 7 pm and continuing until Tuesday. No more arrivals or departures from Monday in Colombia, including Colombian nationals. 0.

I don't know if you guys are still keen to come down here but I feel the mood changing. Had a few chicas over this week and they are all worried about the virus. I have 24 hour porteros in my apartment block and two of them are going to live here during the shut down to make sure they are on duty. The vibe towards extranjeros is changing, 40 were deported today for breaking the isolation period.

Yes the prices could be cheaper right now but from tomorrow at 7 pm until Tuesday you can't even be in the streets let alone have a chica over. I'm trying to fly out on Saturday, Medellin right now is not the place to be, if you somehow make it down here be prepared to have forced quarantine in your hotel for 14 days and a bunch of nervous chicas on your hands.[/QUOTE]

New Life. Closed until April 12.

Sara's. Closed this morning. Unsure for how long.

Dulce, Aiffe, and Akami - appear to be open.

Not sure about others.

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;2436155]Plus the asking price of $200 US (COP800 K for an hour or two?). [/QUOTE]Never been there so never knew what girls were asking or what a dude actually pays.

This guy lives in Gustos and gives a lot of advice about prices.

[URL]https://youtu.be/AX73layhN1k.[/URL]

I won't miss New Life but I was really bummed out that Botaniko shut down earlier this week. The New Life closure makes sense to me because of the high percentage of foreigners who frequent it. The same is true of food and beverage places in Poblado and Provenza. We saw many of them shut down a week or more ago. The talked about protecting the health of the republic but I think it is more about a big part of their clientele no longer patronizing them.

[QUOTE=Methius;2436178]New Life. Closed until April 12.

Sara's. Closed this morning. Unsure for how long.

Dulce, Aiffe, and Akami - appear to be open.

Not sure about others.[/QUOTE]

It seems that the public is getting on-edge with the impending quarantine, and I feel like everyone I talk to is asking me how long I've been here. This is actually Day 14, for me, and my f'ing portero is downstairs with a mask and gloves on, yapping at me about being in quarantine. I was just going out to buy some food to last through the weekend.

Anyhow, has anyone in Medellíand made a decision regarding to quarantine with a chica or not to quarantine with a chica? Tonight through Tuesday is a long time to be alone, and who knows if they decide on Monday to extend it. The flip side is: do I want to be with a single chick for 4 days?

All ears, here.

Last night:

19 yo from SA, decent photos, petite, morena.

Chatted for awhile on WhatsApp, got a couple extra photos, and set a cita for 8 p. She told me around 7 p that she might be a little late because she is waiting at home to let her sister in. She arrived around 815 p, maybe. Right away, she asked if I had any food. So, I heated up some ravioli for this little thing. She wasn't drop-dead gorgeous, but she was cute. Fast forward, we decide to jump in the jacuzzi. She made a strange bikini choice. Rippled off-the-shoulder strapless thing, with nearly full-coverage bottoms. It kind of reminded me of something you'd see at a carnaval. Anyway, we were having some drinks (she wanted beer with tequila, and said it was too strong). And when we finally started kissing, her on top of me, and I got that top off. DAMN! Amazing naturals on this tiny framed girl. The struggle of chit chat turned into passion. It was unbelievable. She was wetter than the jacuzzi. I slipped a finger right into her. We end up getting right to it, her riding me, sin condon. She let's me take some pics, and seems kind of into it, as she was posing a little. End up doing a handful of positions and she tells me she wants leche on her tits. She cleans up and checks her phone. Her sister is out and wants to go to bed early, so she needs to leaving in maybe 30 minutes to meet her sister. I told her it sounds like they need another set of keys. We get in the shower and have our 2nd session, which ends up on the bed so I could finish. Something about being in the water or heat, especially for round 2, and I have trouble finishing. Again, a lovely sesh.

As she is getting ready, I slip a little clutch into her purse with 150 k in it. She and I never discussed a price. She noticed the bright pink clutch in her black bag, right away. She said it was very pretty, and she loves it. She opened it, saw the cash. No discussion. Some goodbye kisses, and she's off at 10:45 p. I go up to turn the jacuzzi off, and bam. Her bikini. Not sure if it was intentional, or not, but I'm really considering having her hunker down for the quarantine. Regardless, I will surely see her again in my next month, here.

I'm sure anyone that is keeping an eye on things has noticed, but I woke up to a Copa Airlines email that travel has been banned until April 21. Oddly enough, I changed my flight from March 18 to April 18. Now, I get a credit, but not sure how it will work. They changed my flight for no fee, originally. So, I'm not sure if I will get $150 towards a $600 flight in late-April / May, or what. I don't feel like sitting on hold, any time soon. I had the pleasure of doing that a few days ago.

I have some local friends, and all of them are scared straight about the quarantine. I half-heartedly offered to host a BBQ for 1-3 people, maybe to see the reaction, and everyone either thought I was kidding or tried to implement their own coronavirus thoughts on me. Some working girl (from my November / December reports) was recently in Cartagena, working, and went back home to her sister's. Today, she was basically telling me that the coronavirus is spread by white-yellow-brown-black devil tourists. She said Colombia has it because tourists come and don't know they have it. I said, every country aside from China had it arrive from some one, right?

Ok, enough BSing. I need to decide in the next couple of hours if I want to have a girl stay for the weekend. The Conejitas Vennie wants to come over, but I don't know if I want her here for multiple days. Another from earlier in my trip said she'd come over, this weekend. What is the vibe or intel on taxi / uber during the quarantine?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2435960]I saw something on the Internet today about the United States that I hope is not true. Gun sales are at historic highs. That is scary if it's true.[/QUOTE]It's true. I passed by 3 gin stores yesterday afternoon. All had full parking lots. Practically everyplace else was deserted.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2436191]It seems that the public is getting on-edge with the impending quarantine, and I feel like everyone I talk to is asking me how long I've been here. This is actually Day 14, for me, and my f'ing portero is downstairs with a mask and gloves on, yapping at me about being in quarantine. I was just going out to buy some food to last through the weekend.

Anyhow, has anyone in Medelland made a decision regarding to quarantine with a chica or not to quarantine with a chica? Tonight through Tuesday is a long time to be alone, and who knows if they decide on Monday to extend it. The flip side is: do I want to be with a single chick for 4 days?

All ears, here.

Last night:

19 yo from SA, decent photos, petite, morena.

Chatted for awhile on WhatsApp, got a couple extra photos, and set a cita for 8 p. She told me around 7 p that she might be a little late because she is waiting at home to let her sister in. She arrived around 815 p, maybe. Right away, she asked if I had any food. So, I heated up some ravioli for this little thing. She wasn't drop-dead gorgeous, but she was cute. Fast forward, we decide to jump in the jacuzzi. She made a strange bikini choice. Rippled off-the-shoulder strapless thing, with nearly full-coverage bottoms. It kind of reminded me of something you'd see at a carnaval. Anyway, we were having some drinks (she wanted beer with tequila, and said it was too strong). And when we finally started kissing, her on top of me, and I got that top off. DAMN! Amazing naturals on this tiny framed girl. The struggle of chit chat turned into passion. It was unbelievable. She was wetter than the jacuzzi. I slipped a finger right into her. We end up getting right to it, her riding me, sin condon. She let's me take some pics, and seems kind of into it, as she was posing a little. End up doing a handful of positions and she tells me she wants leche on her tits. She cleans up and checks her phone. Her sister is out and wants to go to bed early, so she needs to leaving in maybe 30 minutes to meet her sister. I told her it sounds like they need another set of keys. We get in the shower and have our 2nd session, which ends up on the bed so I could finish. Something about being in the water or heat, especially for round 2, and I have trouble finishing. Again, a lovely sesh.

As she is getting ready, I slip a little clutch into her purse with 150 k in it. She and I never discussed a price. She noticed the bright pink clutch in her black bag, right away. She said it was very pretty, and she loves it. She opened it, saw the cash. No discussion. Some goodbye kisses, and she's off at 10:45 p. I go up to turn the jacuzzi off, and bam. Her bikini. Not sure if it was intentional, or not, but I'm really considering having her hunker down for the quarantine. Regardless, I will surely see her again in my next month, here.

I'm sure anyone that is keeping an eye on things has noticed, but I woke up to a Copa Airlines email that travel has been banned until April 21. Oddly enough, I changed my flight from March 18 to April 18. Now, I get a credit, but not sure how it will work. They changed my flight for no fee, originally. So, I'm not sure if I will get $150 towards a $600 flight in late-April / May, or what. I don't feel like sitting on hold, any time soon. I had the pleasure of doing that a few days ago.

I have some local friends, and all of them are scared straight about the quarantine. I half-heartedly offered to host a BBQ for 1-3 people, maybe to see the reaction, and everyone either thought I was kidding or tried to implement their own coronavirus thoughts on me. Some working girl (from my November / December reports) was recently in Cartagena, working, and went back home to her sister's. Today, she was basically telling me that the coronavirus is spread by white-yellow-brown-black devil tourists. She said Colombia has it because tourists come and don't know they have it. I said, every country aside from China had it arrive from some one, right?

Ok, enough BSing. I need to decide in the next couple of hours if I want to have a girl stay for the weekend. The Conejitas Vennie wants to come over, but I don't know if I want her here for multiple days. Another from earlier in my trip said she'd come over, this weekend. What is the vibe or intel on taxi / uber during the quarantine?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Quarantine means 2 weeks with no one. Or two weeks that everyone who is together stays away from everyone else. If you get someone in the last two days of your quarantine then both of you would have to stay another 14 days.

Nice casa runs yesterday and today. Great BBBJs. One chica didn't even ask for a tip but I gave her 10,000 anyway cause she licked by balls good and almost had me about to bust in her mouth.

Curfew this weekend so I wanted to get it in before taking a break. Got a lot of good fruit while I was in Centro today, to replenish my nut sack for next week.

This one I was smashing back door for a good while. Real sweet and great personality. Ass can really take a pounding. I'm loving this travel ban. Got plenty of numbers and also my regular but I think I will do the casa thing at least until the travel ban ends. Also saw a lot of chicas around Botero, not my thing, but they are out there.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2436179]Never been there so never knew what girls were asking or what a dude actually pays.

This guy lives in Gustos and gives a lot of advice about prices.

[URL]https://youtu.be/AX73layhN1k.[/URL][/QUOTE]Holy shit I could not stop laughing at the video. Especially towards the end when he starts yelling haha.

Taxi / uber will operate, the metro as well. Remember people are allowed out for essential errands or if they work in certain jobs. I did get an e-mail from uber that says they won't operate at the airport after 8 PM until 5 AM, no date limits included. There are only a few domestic flights so there can't be much demand. I wonder if the airport buses are running.

I think you would regret shacking up with a girl for three days. I think you would also have a hard time getting one to agree to it unless she is homeless, which brings me back to my first statement about regret. My advice is to lean on your contacts or the escort services. Rappi is operating so I'm sure those services are as well. The streets did empty pretty quickly starting at 5 PM. I was by the stadium and I a low flying helicopter announced a reminder about the lockdown through a loudspeaker. Thanks for the pic, I hope I don't find the need to look at it again this weekend.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2436191]It seems that the public is getting on-edge with the impending quarantine, and I feel like everyone I talk to is asking me how long I've been here. This is actually Day 14, for me, and my f'ing portero is downstairs with a mask and gloves on, yapping at me about being in quarantine. I was just going out to buy some food to last through the weekend.

Anyhow, has anyone in Medelland made a decision regarding to quarantine with a chica or not to quarantine with a chica? Tonight through Tuesday is a long time to be alone, and who knows if they decide on Monday to extend it. The flip side is: do I want to be with a single chick for 4 days?

All ears, here.

Last night:

19 yo from SA, decent photos, petite, morena.

Chatted for awhile on WhatsApp, got a couple extra photos, and set a cita for 8 p. She told me around 7 p that she might be a little late because she is waiting at home to let her sister in. She arrived around 815 p, maybe. Right away, she asked if I had any food.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2436246]Nice casa runs yesterday and today. Great BBBJs. One chica didn't even ask for a tip but I gave her 10,000 anyway cause she licked by balls good and almost had me about to bust in her mouth.

Curfew this weekend so I wanted to get it in before taking a break. Got a lot of good fruit while I was in Centro today, to replenish my nut sack for next week.

This one I was smashing back door for a good while. Real sweet and great personality. Ass can really take a pounding. I'm loving this travel ban. Got plenty of numbers and also my regular but I think I will do the casa thing at least until the travel ban ends. Also saw a lot of chicas around Botero, not my thing, but they are out there.[/QUOTE]Sounds like when the travel ban ends, it will be a feeding frenzy in Botero for the street rats. And I am stuck in California getting ready for the Holocaust.

[QUOTE=Uthred;2436247]Holy shit I could not stop laughing at the video. Especially towards the end when he starts yelling haha.[/QUOTE]At 3:00 minutes is where it starts getting really funny. But he's right. "STOP IT YOU ***** ASS MOTHA FUCKAS" LMAO.

Can we pin this as mandatory viewing material for everyone who comes to this forum?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2436179]Never been there so never knew what girls were asking or what a dude actually pays.

This guy lives in Gustos and gives a lot of advice about prices.

[URL]https://youtu.be/AX73layhN1k.[/URL][/QUOTE]The link seems to be broken. It says not found. Idk what exactly you guys are watching.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2436280]The link seems to be broken. It says not found. Idk what exactly you guys are watching.[/QUOTE]Remove the period at the end and it works.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2436280]The link seems to be broken. It says not found. Idk what exactly you guys are watching.[/QUOTE]Got to remove the period at the end the link.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX73layhN1k[/URL]

[QUOTE=Methius;2436178]New Life. Closed until April 12.

Sara's. Closed this morning. Unsure for how long.

Dulce, Aiffe, and Akami - appear to be open.

Not sure about others.[/QUOTE]New Life jajajajaja. Not about them closing but about seeing the Mamasan of New life during my end of November 2019 trip as I was out strolling around Cale 52 next to the Museo Antioquia.

Sure she was out scouting for new talent as I was. We made eye contact and exchanged Holas and she walk away grinning knowing what I was there for.

So now that COP at all time record tonight of 4120 per dollar is New Life going to increase their prices 20% when they re-open? Earlier this week was 4350 COP to the dollar. Amazing! If I could get down there now would buy an apartmento.

[QUOTE=ElViajero;2436044]The government announced a shut down tonight for Antioquia starting tomorrow at 7 pm and continuing until Tuesday. No more arrivals or departures from Monday in Colombia, including Colombian nationals. 0.

I don't know if you guys are still keen to come down here but I feel the mood changing. Had a few chicas over this week and they are all worried about the virus. I have 24 hour porteros in my apartment block and two of them are going to live here during the shut down to make sure they are on duty. The vibe towards extranjeros is changing, 40 were deported today for breaking the isolation period.

Yes the prices could be cheaper right now but from tomorrow at 7 pm until Tuesday you can't even be in the streets let alone have a chica over. I'm trying to fly out on Saturday, Medellin right now is not the place to be, if you somehow make it down here be prepared to have forced quarantine in your hotel for 14 days and a bunch of nervous chicas on your hands.[/QUOTE]Is a very very very serious situation now around the world. Here in USA Every state I have read of except some parts of FL have shut down all bars, dine in restaurants, movie theaters, and public gathering places expect vital gas stations, grocery stores, pharmacies, hospitals etc.

CA is in complete lock down don't leave your home status and NYC talking about it.

Yes for someone fresh into Medellin and needing to return in 1-4 weeks or more would be hellish if not impossible to get out. However if fresh in and planning to stay there a long time do the "14 day quarantine" in your apartment and if you know not sick start calling the chicas over to your apartment. They banning visitors to private residences down there? Saying this not if you are in hotel but any of the private rental apartments.

Or if live down there permanently man you are in heaven just give them a COVID-19 swab test!

Also they sayin younger people not as risk however I have heard on my local news (DFW area) and the major media channels that youngers can still develop serious side effects especially if they have auto immune issues and / or other chronic health conditions.

I never was one too get too close to people especially in bars where there is less inhibition however the nice casas I feel wouldn't be so much risk since is a controlled environment.

[QUOTE=CocrBrotheler;2436294]New Life jajajajaja. Not about them closing but about seeing the Mamasan of New life during my end of November 2019 trip as I was out strolling around Cale 52 next to the Museo Antioquia.

Sure she was out scouting for new talent as I was.[/QUOTE]So once again we can see that some of the same chicks that you fucked in place A for y amount are in place B for yx3. Ever wonder why chicks in places like Fase 2 are older? Because in many cases they have followed the pipeline. Street, to casa, to Mansion, to higher cost strip club. They have worked all these years and have been able to save up for implants along the way.

Which brings up an interesting question. In this hobby, is youth or experience more valued? I'm not paying $200 per hour for some guy fresh out of law school, but I would pay $250 for a guy that has been lawyering 20 or so years and knows his way around the legal system.

Are you paying 200K for a chick just because she is 20 years old and may be green as grass, or is it better to pay 300K to a 30 year old chick that knows her way around a dick.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2436305]Are you paying 200K for a chick just because she is 20 years old and may be green as grass, or is it better to pay 300K to a 30 year old chick that knows her way around a dick.[/QUOTE]One man's trash is another man's treasure. I would definitely pay more for 18-21 year-old. If a decent looking 30 year-old in Medellin want to pay me 200 dollar to fuck her, I will politely turn it down.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2435960]I saw something on the Internet today about the United States that I hope is not true. Gun sales are at historic highs. That is scary if it's true.[/QUOTE]Yup, it's true. Gun stores where I live in Central Texas are getting cleaned out of ammo and guns.

Good times ahead.

BREAKING NEWS! Colombia in total Lockdown for 19 days from Tuesday March 24. Be safe everyone!

Speaking at the end of the first of four days of quarantine in Bogotá and neighbouring departments, President Duque has announced that the whole country will go into shutdown from 11.59 pm on Tuesday night.

The country-wide quarantine measures will be in place until April 13.

[URL]https://thebogotapost.com/colombia-to-enter-complete-quarantine/44444/?fbclid=IwAR1d31Y9cp9aZA9prNkvcq-OP8OBrI6-R4vkB0fqN4Xiq2oYkEc421mYc6o[/URL]

[QUOTE=SJobs;2436307]One man's trash is another man's treasure. I would definitely pay more for 18-21 year-old. If a decent looking 30 year-old in Medellin want to pay me 200 dollar to fuck her, I will politely turn it down.[/QUOTE]You are funny, SJobs, but I admire your honesty. Even though it's misplaced at times. I remember a few month ago you were raving about the Globe club in Zurich. Now, it's Medellin's turn, and in particular the younger ones. Just make sure they are over 18. You will discover one day that a 30 year old can give you one heck of a session, much better than what an 18 year old can give.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2436307]One man's trash is another man's treasure. I would definitely pay more for 18-21 year-old. If a decent looking 30 year-old in Medellin want to pay me 200 dollar to fuck her, I will politely turn it down.[/QUOTE]People pay more for new car too.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2436323]People pay more for new car too.[/QUOTE]You are comparing apples to oranges though. I am talking about newness versus experience from a human standpoint. Machines are devalued and become obsolete with time. So of course one would say pay more for the new car. People gain knowledge and experience over time. There are no young wisepeople. So what should be valued more: the chick that is fresh in the dick game or the one that already knows how to shoot you into outer space because she has had tons of experience at it?

[QUOTE=SJobs;2436307]One man's trash is another man's treasure. I would definitely pay more for 18-21 year-old. If a decent looking 30 year-old in Medellin want to pay me 200 dollar to fuck her, I will politely turn it down.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2436339]You are comparing apples to oranges though. I am talking about newness versus experience from a human standpoint. Machines are devalued and become obsolete with time. So of course one would say pay more for the new car. People gain knowledge and experience over time. There are no young wisepeople. So what should be valued more: the chick that is fresh in the dick game or the one that already knows how to shoot you into outer space because she has had tons of experience at it?[/QUOTE]I see both of your points. A younger lady is going excite me more on looks, but even what Mr E leaves out is that not only does the 30 yr old have more experience but woman reach their sexual peak in late 20's to early 30's so they are more into it. More woman that girl sexually
.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2436339]You are comparing apples to oranges though. I am talking about newness versus experience from a human standpoint. Machines are devalued and become obsolete with time. So of course one would say pay more for the new car. People gain knowledge and experience over time. There are no young wisepeople. So what should be valued more: the chick that is fresh in the dick game or the one that already knows how to shoot you into outer space because she has had tons of experience at it?[/QUOTE]If I'm looking for an intellectually stimulating conversation, I will look for a person with similar interests and academic backgrounds, regardless of gender. If looking for a dance partner, I will look for the best looking girl who is at the same dance level as me. If looking for a Spanish teacher, I will look for a person with the best teaching experience. If I'm looking for girls to have threesome sex, party for 48 hours straight, drink heavily, and do a ton of drugs, they must be 18-21. A 30-year-old will get tired very quickly.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2436348]I see both of your points. A younger lady is going excite me more on looks, but even what Mr E leaves out is that not only does the 30 yr old have more experience but woman reach their sexual peak in late 20's to early 30's so they are more into it. More woman that girl sexually.[/QUOTE]I have a chica that I only recently found out is pushing 40 and is as wild as any of the younger chicas I've dealt with. I've been fucking this chica for the last few years and she doesn't look a bit over 30. I would have never guessed she was pushing 40 until she just up and told me. Her sexual energy is off the charts and half the time I am trying to keep up with her! LOL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2436305]So once again we can see that some of the same chicks that you fucked in place A for y amount are in place B for yx3. Ever wonder why chicks in places like Fase 2 are older? Because in many cases they have followed the pipeline. Street, to casa, to Mansion, to higher cost strip club. They have worked all these years and have been able to save up for implants along the way.

Which brings up an interesting question. In this hobby, is youth or experience more valued? I'm not paying $200 per hour for some guy fresh out of law school, but I would pay $250 for a guy that has been lawyering 20 or so years and knows his way around the legal system.

Are you paying 200K for a chick just because she is 20 years old and may be green as grass, or is it better to pay 300K to a 30 year old chick that knows her way around a dick.[/QUOTE]I find 20 year olds to be just as knowledgeable about the dick as older women, and their far more attractive and motivated, less bitter. But I have not have sex with someone 30 or more in years while mongering. I can stay in the United states for that. Pet peeve older women, women with kids.

Friday March 20,2020.

I guess there is quarantine here in Medellin, I really wouldn't know, I have been so busy working and keeping busy. Currently it just feels right, the currency, the lifestyle, and the girls; everything just feels right for a change. When you're earning between 5- 8,000,000 pesos daily and you still have time to bang 3 gorgeous chics, everything just feels right.

The times that I was in Medellin and had to rush to get back to the US, this feels right about all of the quickie sessions I had to make and felt short changed. So many chics in the Parque Botero are suffering and starving and not receiving dates and I have no concern, not one bit. Bad service, being rude, lying and being slick has brought about the few clients to Centro, coupled with the Covid 19; many of the chics may not survive.

I have a nice amount of chics so I just go to the Park to visit with friends and kick the BS. I have seen a few new chics that look worth banging but with the enemies that I made in the park, I can't get close enough to the new chics without the old chics seeing and attacking them, so I just smile and pretend that I don't want a cita. Not bad at all, just not as easy as it once was.

Many of the BMs are correct about pricing and the desperation. For me, this quarantine is perfect. It allows for the desperation to sit in more and by Tuesday these girls will be willing to work. I sat in the parquet Botero Friday for about 3 hours, I saw maybe only 2 girls get dates during that entire time that I sat in the Park. Here's the kicker, even if the Colombian monger out numbers the foreign monger, the value of the peso is so poor, many Colombians will not even work for their usual $425,000 biweekly checks. Currently $425,000 pesos is $104.00 usd; think about that the next time you want to pay a girl $200 usd! You'the be paying her a month's salary for 2 hours of work. Oh how sweet it is to be in Medellin right now.

The girls are still beautiful, plentiful, and soon more willing to perform than ever. So if you are here and you're having success, then you know what this post is saying. I have to go see immigration in about 3-5 weeks for an extension on my visa because Spirit airlines cancelled my flight and I had to re-book it for 2 weeks later in June. I just checked the Spirit Airlines Website and there are no flights leaving Medellin for Ft Lauderdale until June 10, 2020. I have no worries about being here until then or maybe July 1st or later. Pollo Negro is Out!

This video should be shown in airplane monitors prior to touchdown in all Colombian airports.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX73layhN1k&feature=youtu.be[/URL]

Thailand and Cambodia should be included in the group

Sex workers struggle to make ends meet as coronavirus spreads.

[URL]https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/ny-sex-workers-coronavirus-prostitutes-business-20200317-bmkcindw6fds7gw2sjemjwv734-story.html[/URL]

Enjoy your trip and have fun. Stay safe.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2436419]Friday March 20,2020.

I guess there is quarantine here in Medellin, I really wouldn't know, I have been so busy working and keeping busy. Currently it just feels right, the currency, the lifestyle, and the girls; everything just feels right for a change. When you're earning between 5- 8,000,000 pesos daily and you still have time to bang 3 gorgeous chics, everything just feels right.

The times that I was in Medellin and had to rush to get back to the US, this feels right about all of the quickie sessions I had to make and felt short changed. So many chics in the Parque Botero are suffering and starving and not receiving dates and I have no concern, not one bit. Bad service, being rude, lying and being slick has brought about the few clients to Centro, coupled with the Covid 19; many of the chics may not survive.

I have a nice amount of chics so I just go to the Park to visit with friends and kick the BS. I have seen a few new chics that look worth banging but with the enemies that I made in the park, I can't get close enough to the new chics without the old chics seeing and attacking them, so I just smile and pretend that I don't want a cita. Not bad at all, just not as easy as it once was.[/QUOTE]

This just in: The Mayor of Medellin announced the first confirmed case of coronavirus is now fully recovered after a 14 day quarantine. It was announced on teleMedellin just a moment ago.

Meanwhile, last night, the president imposed a mandatory national quarantine beginning Tuesday March 24 through April 13. This after a lockdown was imposed beginning last night at 7 PM through Tuesday. When I was out for a walk earlier some D1 employees were opening shop. I'm not sure what their hours will be, they opened around 11 AM.

I have a date coming by taxi at 4 PM. Uber sent e-mails that they are shutting down through Tuesday. The metro is running.

Up to date and accurate information is on gov. Co.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2436348]I see both of your points. A younger lady is going excite me more on looks, but even what Mr E leaves out is that not only does the 30 yr old have more experience but woman reach their sexual peak in late 20's to early 30's so they are more into it. More woman that girl sexually.[/QUOTE]The other side of the equation is that those 18 year olds already have 5 years of experience.

I love this video. Too bad the people who need to see it the most, probably will not watch it.

[QUOTE=Bill;2436438]This video should be shown in airplane monitors prior to touchdown in all Colombian airports.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX73layhN1k&feature=youtu.be[/URL]

Thailand and Cambodia should be included in the group[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2436179]Never been there so never knew what girls were asking or what a dude actually pays.

This guy lives in Gustos and gives a lot of advice about prices.

[URL]https://youtu.be/AX73layhN1k.[/URL][/QUOTE]Love this black guys smile and laugh, he is spot on about mongers paying stupid prices, I absolutely agree with him about the Gustos WG who charge 300-600 mil to some stupid gringo, and some $200 to $300 USD, and I also have seen that same ***** in a casa (and even in the vera) peddling her pussy for 40 mil.

The Tall Man.

Amen brother, if I have to be quarantined I thank my lucky stars it is here and not in Europe or North America getting gouged by disaster profiteers.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2436419]Friday March 20,2020.

I guess there is quarantine here in Medellin, I really wouldn't know, I have been so busy working and keeping busy. Currently it just feels right, the currency, the lifestyle, and the girls; everything just feels right for a change. When you're earning between 5- 8,000,000 pesos daily and you still have time to bang 3 gorgeous chics, everything just feels right.

The times that I was in Medellin and had to rush to get back to the US, this feels right about all of the quickie sessions I had to make and felt short changed. So many chics in the Parque Botero are suffering and starving and not receiving dates and I have no concern, not one bit. Bad service, being rude, lying and being slick has brought about the few clients to Centro, coupled with the Covid 19; many of the chics may not survive.

I have a nice amount of chics so I just go to the Park to visit with friends and kick the BS. I have seen a few new chics that look worth banging but with the enemies that I made in the park, I can't get close enough to the new chics without the old chics seeing and attacking them, so I just smile and pretend that I don't want a cita. Not bad at all, just not as easy as it once was.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2436465]I love this video. Too bad the people who need to see it the most, probably will not watch it.[/QUOTE]I would replace "Simp" with "newbie. " Newbies only think of what it would cost back home. But after a while in this hobby, they start to wizen up. Eventually you find out what an average person earns in Colombia (or Brasil, DR, etc). At current exchange levels, the typical Colombian earns about $212/ month.

With time, guys also realize that paying more doesn't mean you get better service. It just lets the girl know that you don't know what's going on.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2436465]I love this video. Too bad the people who need to see it the most, probably will not watch it.[/QUOTE]SMH. Let's be fair about it then. Let's go back to the first time when it was reported that the going rate was 150 k plus taxi. Now we can add in for inflation each year and recalculate.

Roughly speaking, if the going rate was 150 k in 2010, the going rate today should be about 220 k. Right? The cost of everything else tracks upward with inflation, unless some market pressure is holding it back.

With Medellin Facebook girls, the market pressure should be moving with inflation. There are many more gringo tourists using Facebook now than 10 years ago. I believe the growth in consumers has exceeded the growth of suppliers. Prices should be rising faster than inflation.

When you also consider the exchange rate in 2010 was around 2,000 to 1, and now it's 4,000 to 1, if you're paying 200 k today for what you paid 150 k for in 2010, you're currently paying $50 for something that cost $75 ten years ago.

And complaining that it's getting too expensive.

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[QUOTE=Knowledge;2436472]Amen brother, if I have to be quarantined I thank my lucky stars it is here and not in Europe or North America getting gouged by disaster profiteers.[/QUOTE]LOL. I think you're missing the point. You're glad you're there. I get that. But when it hits there look out. You may wish you were back getting gouged. When it gets bad in Colombia. Which is happening as we speak. It will be very very bad. I would be looking for a quiet place in the country. Get some groceries, hunker down. And be ready for a couple of months of solitude. I would not be in Medellin or Bogota.

I had to go into quarantine when I got back home. That is totally fine. If I was exposed in Colombia or on the way back at least I won't be infecting anyone else. It's going to be really bad in the US. Actually it already is. Will make Italy look like child's play. Italy is up to almost 1000 per day dying. New York and parts of California not far behind. Just days really. And Colombia will be the same within a week or two. Not deaths yet. But the increasing of infections. And deaths a week or two after that.

Right now increasing at about 15-20 percent per day in North America. Also there very likely. So act when you have a chance. Just my 2 cents worth.

PunkedLife,

A few corrections / clarifications:

There is a minimum wage in Colombia. You are correct that real earnings have not increased for Colombians in nearly 10 years. The same is also true in developed countries including Canada, the UK, and USA. It is a myth that foreigners who pay above market rates move the market, albeit a widely held myth. Two reasons it is not true are (1) there are not enough foreigner clients as compared to Colombian clients and (2) the rates at even New Life where there are more foreign clients than any other casas are in line with all other Centro casas. Energy, Aisha, etc in Laureles are also in line with each other, as is mileroticos, photoprepagos, and similar Internet services. The outliers are the facebook scene, Gustos / La Isla etc, and gringo centric pimps and hotels like the Mansion. Those outliers are exceptional and they are a market in and of themselves. Their prices could triple and it would make no difference to me, but that's just me. I should also mention another big difference between now and ten years ago. Venezuelans are here in bigger numbers than ever.

Obviously we are paying less in $ due to the change in the exchange rate. I also remember when the exchange rate was about 1700 cop to the $1 and did not get any "discount" from the putas. The point of the video is that many, many guys are overpaying, other significantly. There is no doubt about it. I am not complaining about paying 150. I am just agreeing that there are a lot of idiots out there who make the repeat visitor's life just a little harder.

I should also say that when I first arrives in Medellin 15 years ago, there was no FB or Instagram. The prices I was paying was "set" by the Mansion at 150 (sometimes you could get for 120). It was artificial pricing set by the only place in town at the time. Obviously it was MUCH less in the casas and in Mayorista. And the exchange rate was about 2200, if I remember right. If we had FB back then, the price of the FB girl would have been much less than 150.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2436475]SMH. Let's be fair about it then. Let's go back to the first time when it was reported that the going rate was 150 k plus taxi. Now we can add in for inflation each year and recalculate.

Roughly speaking, if the going rate was 150 k in 2010, the going rate today should be about 220 k. Right? The cost of everything else tracks upward with inflation, unless some market pressure is holding it back.

With Medellin Facebook girls, the market pressure should be moving with inflation. There are many more gringo tourists using Facebook now than 10 years ago. I believe the growth in consumers has exceeded the growth of suppliers. Prices should be rising faster than inflation.

When you also consider the exchange rate in 2010 was around 2,000 to 1, and now it's 4,000 to 1, if you're paying 200 k today for what you paid 150 k for in 2010, you're currently paying $50 for something that cost $75 ten years ago.

And complaining that it's getting too expensive.[/QUOTE]

So is the conclusion that 150 is still the price to quote the putas? Several reports recently people have been paying 200/300.

Just want to clarify. I don't want to quote a fb girl 150 if the price is too cheap and she gets pissed off.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2436516]Obviously we are paying less in $ due to the change in the exchange rate. I also remember when the exchange rate was about 1700 cop to the $1 and did not get any "discount" from the putas. The point of the video is that many, many guys are overpaying, other significantly. There is no doubt about it. I am not complaining about paying 150. I am just agreeing that there are a lot of idiots out there who make the repeat visitor's life just a little harder.

I should also say that when I first arrives in Medellin 15 years ago, there was no FB or Instagram. The prices I was paying was "set" by the Mansion at 150 (sometimes you could get for 120). It was artificial pricing set by the only place in town at the time. Obviously it was MUCH less in the casas and in Mayorista. And the exchange rate was about 2200, if I remember right. If we had FB back then, the price of the FB girl would have been much less than 150.[/QUOTE]

I think I understand you to mean you feel more comfortable in the US. I respect that, I might feel the same way if I spent more of my formative years there. What confuses me is you say it's very bad there and getting worse. I also see in the media it is likely worse than anyone knows for lack of testing.

Here in Colombia there is widespread testing. The first confirmed case in Medellin fully recovered as of today after a 14 day quarantine. We are on lockdown but there are no toilet paper shortages, prices are stabilized, gasoline was reduced to US $2/ gallon by presidential decree. Restaurant delivery services are operating normally and restaurants that cater to Colombians in operation. The number confirmed cases as of today are low (196) but rising quickly. Zombie apocalypse fantasies aside, it has already hit here. I see Colombians respecting the quarantine and cooperating with each other. In US media I see crowded beaches, spring breakers doing what they do, and an explosion of gun sales. I weighed it all against my health, financial, and professional situation and decided to be here. That is my point.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2436512]LOL. I think you're missing the point. You're glad you're there. I get that. But when it hits there look out. You may wish you were back getting gouged. When it gets bad in Colombia. Which is happening as we speak. It will be very very bad. I would be looking for a quiet place in the country. Get some groceries, hunker down. And be ready for a couple of months of solitude. I would not be in Medellin or Bogota.

I had to go into quarantine when I got back home. That is totally fine. If I was exposed in Colombia or on the way back at least I won't be infecting anyone else. It's going to be really bad in the US. Actually it already is. Will make Italy look like child's play. Italy is up to almost 1000 per day dying. New York and parts of California not far behind. Just days really. And Colombia will be the same within a week or two. Not deaths yet. But the increasing of infections. And deaths a week or two after that.

Right now increasing at about 15-20 percent per day in North America. Also there very likely. So act when you have a chance. Just my 2 cents worth.[/QUOTE]

The Mansion was not the only place in town 15 years ago any more than it is today. It is and was the only place in town where, according to what I've read, English speaking owners hold your dick for you so you only have to remember to breathe while you are there.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2436516]Obviously we are paying less in $ due to the change in the exchange rate. I also remember when the exchange rate was about 1700 cop to the $1 and did not get any "discount" from the putas. The point of the video is that many, many guys are overpaying, other significantly. There is no doubt about it. I am not complaining about paying 150. I am just agreeing that there are a lot of idiots out there who make the repeat visitor's life just a little harder.

I should also say that when I first arrives in Medellin 15 years ago, there was no FB or Instagram. The prices I was paying was "set" by the Mansion at 150 (sometimes you could get for 120). It was artificial pricing set by the only place in town at the time. Obviously it was MUCH less in the casas and in Mayorista. And the exchange rate was about 2200, if I remember right. If we had FB back then, the price of the FB girl would have been much less than 150.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2436472]Amen brother, if I have to be quarantined I thank my lucky stars it is here and not in Europe or North America getting gouged by disaster profiteers.[/QUOTE]One of my favorite girls came by today at 12 noon and I banged her brains out for about 4 hours? I thought everything was on lock down until Tuesday, but clearly she knows how to get out and get to me. As long as she comes to me and I don't have to leave my castle, I am a happy little king. 18 years old with a butt to die for and knows how to blow a flute, I can clearly say Amen, 2 times, this girl is a certified flute blower and a genuine pony rider. 4 hours, all for a crispy $100,000 mil. Life is Good here in Medellin. Pollo Negro is out!

So, I did it, I shacked-up. 20 yo from Bello / La Estrella, super cute, tall, natural, light skinned, brown hair, and she brings life into this shitty situation.

She has taken over the master bathroom (luckily I have 4), and bought enough makeup to last the rest of the year, but. I offered her 500 k + food for the quarantine. We'll have her kitten here, in a few days.

I got a lot of pressure from family to come home, but I just don't see the sense in traveling, at this time. I'm ok waiting this out, long-term. At some point, I'll need to consider the tourist visa / stay issue, but I feel extremely comfortable in my penthouse, with more amenities than anyone needs, and this cute bundle of fun. We woke up this morning and decided we needed to use the Merqueo app (she told me about it), to order food. 23 more days, minimum, is just insane, to me. I didn't want to wait until Tues / Weds when the majority of people will be stocking-up. So, we took over an hour to compose a delivery list, only to find out the service was too busy and not available. So, we ended up taking the option to go to the grocery store. We prepped a story as to not appear we were breaking the, "one person per household" rule, which was pretty easy since I'm a gringo in Poblado and she has a cedula from La Estrella. Anyhow, Exito Wow was unbelievably empty, given the circumstances. We loaded a cart to the brim, and I feel really confident in being able to ride this out, for the time being. I understand it's a fluid situation, and indefinite travel restrictions could shake all involved, but I'm ok with it.

I can't imagine having to be alone for 25 days. Right now, I just wrapped up work, and was browsing the latest Medellin, Colombia, coronavirus news, and jumped on ISG to see if there was any local info. She is watching some Spanish show on Netflix. She just gave herself a full spa day. Nails, creams, etc. We have plenty of alcohol, along with some massage oil and whipped cream. I think it would take a really really bad turn for the worse to make me feel like I made the wrong decision in staying here. Also, I had a blast last night making some steaks, having some drinks, and staring at a tv playing a Spanish series, while her head was on my lap. I've been known to take a risk or 5,000 in my life, and this will just be another one to add to the list. Much like when I am 12 beers deep and make a live sports bet on Tennis being played in Australia. I feel pretty good about this one! Let's see how it plays out.

Interested to hear what others are up to, if you are living full-time in Medellin, decided to stick it out, or are stuck here. Anyone eyeing that Tues-Weds non-quarantine window as an opportunity to hit casas, or anything? Going back to my original decision to shack-up, I just wasn't sure if girls would be willing or able to travel in and out, during the quarantine. And that was when it was only 4-5 days! Anyone having any luck or hesitancy with this?

Cheers from my own personal heaven!

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2436516]Obviously we are paying less in $ due to the change in the exchange rate. I also remember when the exchange rate was about 1700 cop to the $1 and did not get any "discount" from the putas. The point of the video is that many, many guys are overpaying, other significantly. There is no doubt about it. I am not complaining about paying 150. I am just agreeing that there are a lot of idiots out there who make the repeat visitor's life just a little harder.

I should also say that when I first arrives in Medellin 15 years ago, there was no FB or Instagram. The prices I was paying was "set" by the Mansion at 150 (sometimes you could get for 120). It was artificial pricing set by the only place in town at the time. Obviously it was MUCH less in the casas and in Mayorista. And the exchange rate was about 2200, if I remember right. If we had FB back then, the price of the FB girl would have been much less than 150.[/QUOTE]I don't like using "Simp" because IMO it's generally newbies that are foolish with overpaying, and we're all newbies once. However, defending giving them more because of the favorable exchange rate is pretty simpish. The exchange rate is irrelevant. These girls don't pay for anything in USD.

I like what you did. The financial terms are very reasonable. Unfortunately for me I have to work all week so even without the lockdown I would have limited chica time. I do have a couple of dates lined up Tuesday. A D1 clerk told me they will be open every day during the lockdown. I saw many people carrying Exito bags so I assume they will open as well. Rappi and uber eats are in full operation.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2436542]So, I did it, I shacked-up. 20 yo from Bello / La Estrella, super cute, tall, natural, light skinned, brown hair, and she brings life into this shitty situation.

She has taken over the master bathroom (luckily I have 4), and bought enough makeup to last the rest of the year, but. I offered her 500 k + food for the quarantine. We'll have her kitten here, in a few days.

I got a lot of pressure from family to come home, but I just don't see the sense in traveling, at this time. I'm ok waiting this out, long-term. At some point, I'll need to consider the tourist visa / stay issue, but I feel extremely comfortable in my penthouse, with more amenities than anyone needs, and this cute bundle of fun. We woke up this morning and decided we needed to use the Merqueo app (she told me about it), to order food. 23 more days, minimum, is just insane, to me. I didn't want to wait until Tues / Weds when the majority of people will be stocking-up. So, we took over an hour to compose a delivery list, only to find out the service was too busy and not available. So, we ended up taking the option to go to the grocery store. We prepped a story as to not appear we were breaking the, "one person per household" rule, which was pretty easy since I'm a gringo in Poblado and she has a cedula from La Estrella..[/QUOTE]

I personally pay 150 mil and sometimes throw in taxi, depending. But that is me. I visit once a month (streak probably going to get broken soon) and I have been visiting for 15 years.

A lot of girls will take 150 and provide great service. You might even get less (although I never push it, because I think 150 is fair). A lot of the girls want 200 (need to inquire as to whether that includes the taxi or they want taxi in addition). If she's hot or known for great service, maybe you pay it because you don't go often. I personally would never pay more than 200. For any of them. That's just me.

When I first talk to a girl, I often ask her to tell me what she expects. That helps me gauge the girl. When they give me a high number, I just laugh and tell them I am not a stupid gringo and I tell them what I usually pay for great service. Some do not count, but most often fall in line.

If you are offering to see a casa girl at your apartment. Or a stripper. Then I would give them less. Because it's still a lot more than what they get at work.

[QUOTE=Droplet;2436521]So is the conclusion that 150 is still the price to quote the putas? Several reports recently people have been paying 200/300.

Just want to clarify. I don't want to quote a fb girl 150 if the price is too cheap and she gets pissed off.[/QUOTE]

I totally agree that the exchange rate has nothing to do with what we (should) pay. When it was 1700, I obviously had a choice to pay more in USD or cut back on quantity. My recollection is that I just bit the bullet and paid more in USD by banging as much as I could at 150.

[QUOTE=Combo;2436547]I don't like using "Simp" because IMO it's generally newbies that are foolish with overpaying, and we're all newbies once. However, defending giving them more because of the favorable exchange rate is pretty simpish. The exchange rate is irrelevant. These girls don't pay for anything in USD.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2436552]

If you are offering to see a casa girl at your apartment. Or a stripper. Then I would give them less. Because it's still a lot more than what they get at work.[/QUOTE]I still give them 150 mil, especially if they treat me right, which they do, otherwise I wouldn't be inviting them over in the first place.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2436542]So, I did it, I shacked-up. 20 yo from Bello / La Estrella, super cute, tall, natural, light skinned, brown hair, and she brings life into this shitty situation.

We loaded a cart to the brim, and I feel really confident in being able to ride this out, for the time being. I understand it's a fluid situation, and indefinite travel restrictions could shake all involved, but I'm ok with it.

Cheers from my own personal heaven![/QUOTE]Envy I am green with Envy. Stuck in USA.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2436542]So, I did it, I shacked-up. 20 yo from Bello / La Estrella, super cute, tall, natural, light skinned, brown hair, and she brings life into this shitty situation.

Cheers from my own personal heaven![/QUOTE]Well, I don't know about the rest of your guys, but I'm jealous as hell. Cheers SlapShot!

[QUOTE=Bill;2436438]This video should be shown in airplane monitors prior to touchdown in all Colombian airports.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX73layhN1k&feature=youtu.be[/URL]

Thailand and Cambodia should be included in the group[/QUOTE]It should be shown at first year economics courses on what ignorant advice sounds like.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2436542]
Interested to hear what others are up to, if you are living full-time in Medellin, decided to stick it out, or are stuck here. Anyone eyeing that Tues-Weds non-quarantine window as an opportunity to hit casas, or anything? [/QUOTE]I live here. Chillin with my GF at my place until Tuesday, then she'll go back home. Didn't think about casas on Tuesday, but that is an idea.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2436552]I personally pay 150 mil and sometimes throw in taxi, depending. But that is me. I visit once a month (streak probably going to get broken soon) and I have been visiting for 15 years.

A lot of girls will take 150 and provide great service. You might even get less (although I never push it, because I think 150 is fair). A lot of the girls want 200 (need to inquire as to whether that includes the taxi or they want taxi in addition). If she's hot or known for great service, maybe you pay it because you don't go often. I personally would never pay more than 200. For any of them. That's just me.

When I first talk to a girl, I often ask her to tell me what she expects. That helps me gauge the girl. When they give me a high number, I just laugh and tell them I am not a stupid gringo and I tell them what I usually pay for great service. Some do not count, but most often fall in line.

If you are offering to see a casa girl at your apartment. Or a stripper. Then I would give them less. Because it's still a lot more than what they get at work.[/QUOTE]Do you realize in thailand $60 get you 12 hours with a girl. That alone speaks volume. I have been here 21 days spent 200 mil once, 150 mil once, 120 mil 3 times. Rest 100 mil or less.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2436522]I think I understand you to mean you feel more comfortable in the US. I respect that, I might feel the same way if I spent more of my formative years there. What confuses me is you say it's very bad there and getting worse. I also see in the media it is likely worse than anyone knows for lack of testing.

Here in Colombia there is widespread testing. The first confirmed case in Medellin fully recovered as of today after a 14 day quarantine. We are on lockdown but there are no toilet paper shortages, prices are stabilized, gasoline was reduced to US $2/ gallon by presidential decree. Restaurant delivery services are operating normally and restaurants that cater to Colombians in operation. The number confirmed cases as of today are low (196) but rising quickly. Zombie apocalypse fantasies aside, it has already hit here. I see Colombians respecting the quarantine and cooperating with each other. In US media I see crowded beaches, spring breakers doing what they do, and an explosion of gun sales. I weighed it all against my health, financial, and professional situation and decided to be here. That is my point.[/QUOTE]I left Colombia a week ago last Sunday and had a return flight for Thursday night which I could of taken to return to Colombia before Colombia shut it's International airspace down on Friday and initiated it's lock-down orders. Guys I know currently in Medellin who are not on this board, are not happy campers, basically being shuttered in their apartments. I believe I made the right call going home, but am not sure as of yet. Here in California we are kinda locked down, and are allowed to spend time outdoors as long as we maintain a minimum of six feet from anyone unless its a family member. And as of it yet there is no "enforcement".

All restaurants are closed except for take out, the situation at the markets is getting back to normal somewhat as everyone has stocked up on supplies and now the shelves are starting to fill up again with all the hording, etc. Being over.

I believe Colombia has done a much better job than the US in managing things thus far, having testing available, shutting the border down quickly, and other measures.

However the true test will be how Colombia fares when there is an avalanche of hospital patients. Time will only tell, and the USA is not even close to being ready as evidenced by the shortage of PPE, respirators, and ventilators.

And to top this off, the Governor of California said he was estimating that 56% of the States population, approximately 20,000,000 would be infected if no lock-down measures were taken, and then during the morning briefing by the Federal Government today, we were told the risk to Americans was low. And then we have the Country's top scientist refute things our leader is saying during the briefing. So besides the pure facts and figures, we have lots of confusing information being put out there, which is befuddling given it's contradictory nature.

I hope Colombia is spared of the Holocaust taking place in Italy which appears to be the way the USA is headed.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2436582]Do you realize in thailand $60 get you 12 hours with a girl.[/QUOTE]If I had to pay $60 for a chick I would have been out of Thailand a long time ago. In 15 years I have never given a chick that much money. The minimum wage here is $10 per day and you MIGHT get that much only if you are at least a high school graduate.

The other night me and my nephew got 2 chicks at 9 pm. We took them back home at 6 pm the next day. I gave mine $40 and he gave his $40. I had made the original deal for $30 as you can see in the picture, but since we kept them much later into the next day I threw in extra.

[QUOTE=Questner;2436568]It should be shown at first year economics courses on what ignorant advice sounds like.[/QUOTE]I agree, this guys' view is myopic. Actually there is a chapter in Adam Smith's "The Wealth of Nation" that describes this precise way of flawed thinking. It is remarkable how a landmark book first publish in 1776 captures the modern day mentality of fellow mongers.

This dude's core message sounded like this: "I know there are people who are willing and can afford to pay the girls in Medellin more, if we are in true free market, those girls intrinsically worth more. Fellow mongers, let's hide the true economic from those teenager girls, we will exploit them until the day they realize their self-worth. Furthermore, I have absolutely not ability to earn more income, so I will pin my only hope of enjoyment on exploit those teenage girls in the third world. Despite the increase in minimal wage in the states, let's all work together to make sure those girls earn the least possible. " If you ask me, he is definitely a spy send from either North Korea and Cuba.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2436542]So, I did it, I shacked-up. 20 yo from Bello / La Estrella, super cute, tall, natural, light skinned, brown hair, and she brings life into this shitty situation.

[/QUOTE]I think you're doing it right man. Having different girls come and go is a bad move. If I decided to stay in Medellin to ride it out for a few months, I would have easily, without any hesitation, picked my #1 chica and had her stay the entire time with me. Way better than being alone and far safer to just have one chica with you. Enjoy!!

That is the situation here. You can get away with being out to buy food, walk your dog, etc. It's about the same as the restrictions in the US and elsewhere. There are no toilet paper shortages that I notice. I didn't understand what was behind that until I saw a report that diarrhea is one of the early symptoms. I expect the situation will be more clear within a week or two as we approach the April 13 targeted end of the lockdown.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2436600]I left Colombia a week ago last Sunday and had a return flight for Thursday night which I could of taken to return to Colombia before Colombia shut it's International airspace down on Friday and initiated it's lock-down orders. Guys I know currently in Medellin who are not on this board, are not happy campers, basically being shuttered in their apartments. I believe I made the right call going home, but am not sure as of yet. Here in California we are kinda locked down, and are allowed to spend time outdoors as long as we maintain a minimum of six feet from anyone unless its a family member. And as of it yet there is no "enforcement".

All restaurants are closed except for take out, the situation at the markets is getting back to normal somewhat as everyone has stocked up on supplies and now the shelves are starting to fill up again with all the hording, etc. Being over.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2436600]the true test will be how Colombia fares when there is an avalanche of hospital patients. Time will only tell,....lots of confusing information being put out there, which is befuddling given it's contradictory nature.hope Colombia is spared of the Holocaust taking place in Italy which appears to be the way the USA is headed.[/QUOTE]Unlike Italy, Colombia had been spared an avalanche of Chinese tourism, hence no virus epidemic to date. Once this passes and the confusing information is clarified, correct assessment will be made and the Chinese will have a lot to answer for.

I don't expect many to open Tuesday but I could be all wrong about that. It's been several days since most of these girls have made any money. Zandaly joined New Life by shutting down "until further notice".

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2436571]I live here. Chillin with my GF at my place until Tuesday, then she'll go back home. Didn't think about casas on Tuesday, but that is an idea.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2436516]Obviously we are paying less in $ due to the change in the exchange rate. I also remember when the exchange rate was about 1700 cop to the $1 and did not get any "discount" from the putas. The point of the video is that many, many guys are overpaying, other significantly. There is no doubt about it. I am not complaining about paying 150. I am just agreeing that there are a lot of idiots out there who make the repeat visitor's life just a little harder.

I should also say that when I first arrives in Medellin 15 years ago, there was no FB or Instagram. The prices I was paying was "set" by the Mansion at 150 (sometimes you could get for 120). It was artificial pricing set by the only place in town at the time. Obviously it was MUCH less in the casas and in Mayorista. And the exchange rate was about 2200, if I remember right. If we had FB back then, the price of the FB girl would have been much less than 150.[/QUOTE]This is my (admittedly, completely uninformed) opinion. I believe the Facebook scene developed from the Mansion. If I'm correct, I doubt if the price would have been much less. Perhaps as low as 100 k for someone who wasn't at the Mansion.

I think you made my point. 15 years ago the casa prices were lower. 15 years ago the strip club prices were lower. 15 years ago the street girl prices were lower. 15 years ago the gringo entry prices (the Mansion then, Facebook now) were basically the same. I'm pretty sure the room rates at the Mansion were lower 15 years ago as well.

So, it gets more difficult for the frequent visitor, or the expat to pay the same price as 15 years ago. You remember 1700 - 1, I remember 1900 - 1. Either way, even if you pay 200 k now, for what you paid 150 k for then, you're getting the same package for almost half price, based on your income, while the girl is charging about 15% less based upon her cost of living.

Nothing exists in a vacuum. Either the price will eventually go up, or the service will go down.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2436697]Unlike Italy, Colombia had been spared an avalanche of Chinese tourism, hence no virus epidemic to date. Once this passes and the confusing information is clarified, correct assessment will be made and the Chinese will have a lot to answer for.[/QUOTE]Colombia has 210 confirmed cases and most likely thousands of undiagnosed people walking around spreading the virus. The difference in Chinese tourism simply means Colombia is just earlier on an inevitable curve that Italy is further along on.

I hope I am wrong, but doubt it.

[QUOTE=Droplet;2436521]So is the conclusion that 150 is still the price to quote the putas? Several reports recently people have been paying 200/300.

Just want to clarify. I don't want to quote a fb girl 150 if the price is too cheap and she gets pissed off.[/QUOTE]First to clear something up. I'm not saying guys shouldn't be paying 150 k. All I'm saying is that the prices will go up. My opinion is that 200-250 k will be the new normal within 6 months after things return to normal.

1. The girls know the exchange rate.

2. Many will find other ways to make money.

3. There will be a bunch of horny customers with money to spend.

Back to your question.

Everyone has their own way. My way is to exchange a few messages. Usually the girl will say something like "quiero verte", or "quiero conocerte. " I want to see you, or I want to know you. Either one can be translated to mean "I'm available if you're paying. " If she doesn't toss that out and I'm seriously interested, I'll say it. "Puedo verte?" Can I see you. If she's not enthusiastic, I move along.

Here's the part where there's disagreement. Some guys flat out state the price they will pay. I instead ask. "Cuantos quieres", "que necesitas", or "cuantos cuestas?" How much do you want, what do you need, or how much does it cost? Her initial price determines my response.

Once again, just my opinion, but this puts her in the hot seat. She has to weigh how bad she needs the money against how much she thinks she can get. If I instead just throw out my bottom line price, she's only thinking about how much she wanted to get. The other side is occasionally a girl is expecting less than your opening offer. I've had a couple tell me 100 k, when I was preparing my argument to get them to accept 150 k.

Scenario 1- Her price is much higher than I expected.

Let's say she tosses out a price of 400 k or more. My reply might be "Entiendo. Eres muy hermosa. Lo siento. Solo un viejo pobre. Siempre pago dos cientos mil. " I understand. You're very beautiful. I'm sorry, I'm just a poor, old man. I always pay 200 k. She tried her highball price. I gave her my price and she's not offended. Chances are, she's trying to decide whether to take it, or try to get a taxi fare thrown in.

Scenario 2 - Her price is slightly higher than expected.

She offers 200-250 k, I'll give her "siempre pago ciento cinquenta mil, mas taxi. " I always pay 150 k plus taxi. Chances are she's happy to accept it.

I begin with "siempre", because it immediately says, "this isn't my first time. I know the price. " It also says "you'll probably be seeing me again in the future. " You're no longer a gringo rookie, who will be gone tomorrow. You're an option.

You're probably not going to piss her off by offering 150 k. Unless you tell her she's not worth that much.

I really get tired of the minimum wage argument from some of the guys here. These girls need to make as much as possible while they are young. They should charge as much as the free market can stand. Their beauty is short lived and then what. Would you screw strangers for 8. 25 an hour US. You will have to pay at minimum 200 an hour in the US for a attractive girl. That's 25 times minimum wage. If minimum wage in a country is 2. 00 that's 50.00. If its 3. 00 that's 75.00. 50 to 75 is about what I pay for a girl to come to my room worldwide. I was with a 19 yo girl in Brazil 15 years ago. World class natural tits. Even Sperto would have been impressed. Within 3 years she was shot. Gained 40 pounds. I completely lost interest. What do you think that girl is doing now. She can't be more attractive than her 19 yo self. She would be 35 now. How much weight has she gained now. Did she know her value at that time? IDK. I paid her 200 reals for a few hours. Exchange rate back then was 3 to 1. So that's about 65 dollars. Some cheap ass mongers would of tried to justify paying even less than that. They would have tried to get her to go for 100 reals which she wouldn't have and used the minimum wage argument. You know what I got for 200 reals. One of the greatest memories of a girl that I still remember 15 years later.

I had a guy in front of help tell me he never offers more than 100 reals. The entrance fee was 35 to 45 reals. Needless to say this guy was either lying or banging crack working girls.

Because I don't know a attractive girl that would go for 55 reals which is what she would make after entrance fee.

Sure these girls don't make as much at a casa and I personally would be on tinder making money and picking the guys I want to sleep with. Remember the casa quote is 30 minutes. With condom. To get a girl to come to your hotel for an hour BBBJ is going to be more than the casa price. 150 k to 200 k seems fair for that. It's a way better service and more time. If girls at gusto can get 200 us, then more power to them. I wouldn't pay that, but if there are guys that pay that to them, why all the hate. They are only young once, and the guy can't take the money with him when he dies. Ask Steve Jobs. They are wealthier men that maybe don't like the casa lineup BS which I don't either. Bottom line is quit hating. Don't overpay but don't underpay because time goes by quick and money is meaningless in the scheme of things.

[QUOTE=Combo;2436547]I don't like using "Simp" because IMO it's generally newbies that are foolish with overpaying, and we're all newbies once. However, defending giving them more because of the favorable exchange rate is pretty simpish. The exchange rate is irrelevant. These girls don't pay for anything in USD.[/QUOTE]I'm not defending paying them more based on the exchange rate. If I was doing that, I'd point out that a comparable girl in the US charges $300 per hour, and since most Medellin chicas will stay for 2 or more hours, we should all be paying 2 million pesos.

I'm saying the "that price can never go up" attitude is a simplistic view of the situation. Casa prices go up, strip club prices go up, street girl prices go up, taxis, buses and metro prices go up. Food, rent, utilities, clothing, medical. All these prices go up. Go to a car dealer. Show him the price for a car in 2010 and tell him you are only going to pay that price. Think you'll be driving home in a new car?

Yet for some reason, when the price Facebook girls charge goes up, it's because guys are overpaying? Is that how things work? Why isn't everyone up in arms about the people who have been overpaying for beef, driving the prices up? Or the people overpaying for surgery driving the prices up? It doesn't work that way.

Twenty years ago I was a fixture at an Albuquerque strip club. Not just any strip club, it was the best in town. Everyone knew me. Half the time, the DJ would announce me when I came in. Occasionally, the chef would bring out some new dish he was working on and ask my opinion. The top dancer became a good friend and I was friends with several other dancers. Even rented a room to a few of them. At least once a week I'd have lunch or dinner with a dancer. Most paid for their own meal. One always paid for mine. I was as connected to the club as anyone. I saw and heard what went on.

Every now and then someone would come in and start throwing money. The girls would all flock to the guy to get their share. Many would easily make $1,000 from 1 guy in a few hours, without breaking the rules. My friend the top dancer had a few regulars who would drop a grand on her every time.

And then the next day. Everything went back to normal. The dancers all talked about the guy and went back to collecting those $1 bills.

If someone comes along paying 300 k, a girl will take it. Then she'll ask the next guy for 300 k. How long do you think she's going to sit at home hoping to get 300 k? If that's how it worked we'd all be paying $200, because there are plenty paying that much and every girl knows about it.

All you have to do is say no thanks and move along. She'll be chasing after your 150 k before you know it.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2436697]Unlike Italy, Colombia had been spared an avalanche of Chinese tourism, hence no virus epidemic to date. Once this passes and the confusing information is clarified, correct assessment will be made and the Chinese will have a lot to answer for.[/QUOTE]What the Chinese have to answer for was muzzling the Doctor who discovered it and tried to warn everyone and died from it. Or perhaps they killed him at only 39 years old, it's all just to weird.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2436739]Colombia has 210 confirmed cases and most likely thousands of undiagnosed people walking around spreading the virus. The difference in Chinese tourism simply means Colombia is just earlier on an inevitable curve that Italy is further along on.

I hope I am wrong, but doubt it.[/QUOTE]No, you're right. People have been saying this since China was the only country with confirmed cases. Look where we are today. It's obvious.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2436582]Do you realize in thailand $60 get you 12 hours with a girl. That alone speaks volume. I have been here 21 days spent 200 mil once, 150 mil once, 120 mil 3 times. Rest 100 mil or less.[/QUOTE]Do you realize, in the US, $300 gets you 1 hour with a girl? Does that also speak volumes? I remember Navy buddies telling me that $20 would get you a week with a girl, in the Philippines, who would also cook and clean for you. What does that say?

It says nothing. You can't do an apples to apples comparison when your apple trees are on 2 different continents. You also can't do an apples to apples comparison, when one of your trees only produces oranges.

If you want Thailand prices, go to Thailand. If you want casa prices, go to a casa. You're guaranteed to pay a casa price. If you want to pay casa prices for Facebook girls, figure it up right. The casa takes half, the girl has to spend most of her day waiting around, doing lineups and hoping to get picked. So figure for every 3 hours at the casa she's making 50 k, perhaps 150 k for a good day. Now tell the Facebook girls you'll pay 150 k, no more for taxi, they'll have to stay 8 hours and you require at least 6 sessions.

Then go to a casa.

What you pay is what you pay. Nothing more. I had a girl insist on 250 k. I paid it and felt like I got my money's worth. A few months later she came over for 90 k. The next week someone else paid her 200 k.

Find what satisfies you. Find the price point you're comfortable with. Then figure out a way to get satisfaction at your price. Don't worry about what someone else is paying. Don't worry about the service they are getting. Don't worry that his girls might look better or worse than your girls. Just do you.

I don't think Colombia will be spared. Anyone who was here last week knows there was plenty of close contact up until this week's lockdown. I am hopeful the German situation may work in Colombia's favor. In Germany, where there is as much or more testing than in southern Europe (Italy and Spain) there are more confirmed cases but much fewer hospitalizations and deaths. The same is true on a per capita basis compared with Wuhan and the rest of China. I've spent a good amount of time in China, including during the height of the SARS epidemic in Shanghai. My impression is the general health of the Colombian population and the quality of health care in Colombia (especially in big cities) is closer to Germany's than it is to Italy / Spain / China. In the US I really worry about the sky high rates of diabetes, obesity, and heart disease. It makes the population more vulnerable. We will see soon enough.

Today I notice a bit of normalization of the lockdown in Medellin. The people are complying substantially. You can cross Avenida Poblado without looking. Even the ciclovia was harder to cross. It's not allowed but I saw couples shopping at Exito. It's supposed to be one person per household but how do you enforce that really. The shelves are fully stocked. There is a lot more merchandise than customers. I suspect that it is because unlike in the US, people here who haven't worked in weeks in some cases don't have money to buy anything. I walked straight to a cashier without waiting on line. That's unheard of even on Sunday at the Exito on la 70.

TelelMedellin passed along a government announcement that discouraged people from coming out in droves on Tuesday before the 19 day lockdown takes effect. Based on my whatsapp there might be a rush of girls looking for dates. I plan to get to bed early Monday.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2436739]Colombia has 210 confirmed cases and most likely thousands of undiagnosed people walking around spreading the virus. The difference in Chinese tourism simply means Colombia is just earlier on an inevitable curve that Italy is further along on.

I hope I am wrong, but doubt it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2436695]That is the situation here. You can get away with being out to buy food, walk your dog, etc. It's about the same as the restrictions in the US and elsewhere. There are no toilet paper shortages that I notice. I didn't understand what was behind that until I saw a report that diarrhea is one of the early symptoms. I expect the situation will be more clear within a week or two as we approach the April 13 targeted end of the lockdown.[/QUOTE]I suggest you stock up on as much as you can which you probably already have, because when they extend the lock-down, not "if", in my opinion, it will be total mayhem.

I have no idea what El Centro is like, and since your on the ground there, hopefully you can figure a way to go there with out a problem if it still is a viable option somehow.

The Venezuelans must be going crazy there, and my bet is you could easily get as many as you wanted if they were available.

Hopefully you have some fully vetted ones in your line up you can call. If not, my bet is there is a ton of FayBoo and Tinder Chicas available.

You could easily have them travel by Taxi to a market or store close to where you live, meet them there, and then walk separately to your place not to violate the one person shopping rule I heard about.

If I was there, I would rotate them into my apartment, albeit the Portero's would be giving me some funny looks with the parade of Chicas coming and going, but who gives a shit with what's happening now.

I am sure your figuring your options out, and please keep reporting on what's going on there.

Everyone wants to complain about people overpaying. It's ruining things, it'll turn into another Costa Rica, stop overpaying.

Why do you go to Colombia? Cheap pussy? You can get cheap pussy anywhere, free pussy. Ah. Cheap, beautiful pussy that's loving and affectionate. So it's not just the cheap part.

Guess what. Pussy in Colombia is getting cheaper. Cheap is a value that only has meaning in relation to your income. $20 pussy isn't cheap to the Indonesian farmer making $2 per day. It's not cheap to the Colombian laborer making $15 per day. With the improvement in the exchange rate, the cost of that pussy went down, from the perspective of your income. I'm not justifying girls charging more. I'm just saying you are paying less.

If someone pays more, it doesn't change what you pay, especially if you're a frequent visitor. You can still find your price point. For the foreseeable future the pussy will remain cheap.

Which brings us to the rest of it, the "beautiful, loving and affectionate" part. I think we can agree you don't want to pay $40 for a 40 year old, toothless meth addict. Otherwise you would just stay home. The good news is, the pussy in Colombia will remain beautiful. All that's left is "loving and affectionate. "

Which is worth more to you: a girl who makes out with you like your prom date, or a girl who informs you it costs extra to kiss her?

I think most of us go for the GFE. If we wanted a mechanical fuck, we'd all be married. It's the passion which makes it worth the trip. Prices can and will go up. Other than some minor grumbling, everyone will still be fine, as long as the passion remains. As soon as the passion goes, it's no longer worth it.

What kills passion? Turning it into a job, takes the passion away. For the day traders out there, would you rather be on your own, making your trades, or in an office, with someone criticizing and questioning every transaction? In the first case, you've got excitement. In the second, boredom.

Same with the girls. A few guys understand. They set a mood, they treat it as a courtship rather than a transaction. They allow the girls to relax, get comfortable and enjoy themselves. While the passion may be faked, they are at least going to the trouble to fake it.

A few guys treat it different. They have a list of requirements, the whole event is choreographed, each item is checked off. Instead of the girls getting into it, they're just doing their job. They may still fake passion, but it's because they think it will be finished quicker. If the girl misses something on the checklist, pay gets docked.

Is it any wonder girls want to charge extra for everything? Is it any wonder they get bad attitudes? Add to that the occasional guy who belittles them over everything and the passion is gone.

In your opinion which is worse:

1. Paying 20-25% more for a girl who makes you believe that she's enjoying herself more than you are?

2. Paying the same price for a girl who allows no kissing, no DATY, no FIV, no BBBJ and is constantly reminding you of how much time you have left?

Treat them with respect. Be nice, polite, complimentary. Make them feel valued instead of abused. You'll get much more out of it than spending an hour arguing over a few dollars.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2436746]I'm saying the "that price can never go up" attitude is a simplistic view of the situation. Casa prices go up, strip club prices go up, street girl prices go up, taxis, buses and metro prices go up. Food, rent, utilities, clothing, medical. All these prices go up. Go to a car dealer. Show him the price for a car in 2010 and tell him you are only going to pay that price. Think you'll be driving home in a new car?[/QUOTE]So why did the price of TVs go down? LOL.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2436542]
Interested to hear what others are up to, if you are living full-time in Medellin, decided to stick it out, or are stuck here. Anyone eyeing that Tues-Weds non-quarantine window as an opportunity to hit casas, or anything? [/QUOTE]The non-quarantine window has been closed. So the current quarantine will last until April 13.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2436749]What the Chinese have to answer for was muzzling the Doctor who discovered it and tried to warn everyone and died from it. Or perhaps they killed him at only 39 years old, it's all just to weird.[/QUOTE]Chinese are already answering for that. The guy is a hero. And the people know what happened. Ie. That they wanted him to stfu in December, but partly because of him they did something about it. And they have been very successful it seems.

As for blame. Blame the virus. Other viruses have done this in other parts of the world. Most of our colds and flu have animal co-hosts (birds for flu for example). The evolution of a new one is very unfortunate, and the Chinese are already in the process of getting rid of the types of markets where this seems to have started. They banned the civets after the first SARS. Anyway. Whether it evolves in Saudi Arabia (MERS), China (Covid, SARS) or Kansas (1918 flu. One of 3 possible locations) they are terrible.

This concept that some guys overpaying is driving up prices is assinine. You think when Charlie sheen is paying 1 k dollars to girls in mexico he is driving up prices. Those girls know he is a exception. They know when they find a guy that pays 200 dollars that is a exception. It all averages out to them. Sometimes they are with me for 75 and sometimes 300 with someone else, and then a whale comes in like Sheen or Bieber and pays 1 k. Each interaction is different depending on how you look, and how they feel around you. I don't do honk Kong anymore in Tijuana but I was able to get girls for 60 and guys are now paying 80 and 100. I read that Beiber went to Centaurus in Brazil and the girls wanted 1200 to go to Copacabana palace for the night. He picked about 3 girls and left. Was he played for a sucker?? No, Because they knew he was a multimillionaire and he would say yes. 3600 to Beiber is pocket change. Are they going to ask 1200 for the next regular Joe that asks how much to go to the hotel. Hell no. They know they can't get it. They go back to the going rate that is reasonable.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2436780]So why did the price of TVs go down? LOL.[/QUOTE]Care to point out the location of the Chinese factories mass producing Colombian prostitutes? I'll just order directly from them. You can be absolutely certain that Trump didn't stick a tariff on Chinese made Colombian hookers.

Do you think they're building other models too? I'm sure it would be cheaper than flying to Brazil, to just browse the Chinese catalog. How about custom orders? An Irish face, with some Japanese titties, Colombian ass and Chinese feet? The mind boggles at the possibility?

I can just see all the old Chinese factory workers coming home after 12 hours on the vagina assembly line. You know their fingers are all pruney.

I never believed the window was real. It made no sense. I notice more and more stores opening since the quarantine started. Bakeries, corner stores, and cafes like tostao block sell from a counter that blocks the entrance. Walk up and delivery only. It doesn't violate the spirit of the quarantine. It's supposed to be one person per household who buys stuff and no groups sitting around drinking like usual.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2436782]The non-quarantine window has been closed. So the current quarantine will last until April 13.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2436746]I'm not defending paying them more based on the exchange rate. If I was doing that, I'd point out that a comparable girl in the US charges $300 per hour, and since most Medellin chicas will stay for 2 or more hours, we should all be paying 2 million pesos.[/QUOTE]A comparable girl in San Francisco will cost 800 dollars per hour, and she will be full of attitude. 300 dollars is good for a girl in her late 20's to early 30's who gives decent service (complete subpar compared to fb girls from Medellin). Asian girls in the US is a bit more affordable, about 220-250 dollars per hour, you get a decent looking Korean girl in her 30's who give pretty good service, still nowhere near the fb girl experience.

A friend of mine who lives in Laureles told me that on Sunday afternoon there were helicopters flying overhead telling people to stay in doors.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2436727]This is my (admittedly, completely uninformed) opinion. I believe the Facebook scene developed from the Mansion. If I'm correct, I doubt if the price would have been much less. Perhaps as low as 100 k for someone who wasn't at the Mansion.

I think you made my point. 15 years ago the casa prices were lower. 15 years ago the strip club prices were lower. 15 years ago the street girl prices were lower. 15 years ago the gringo entry prices (the Mansion then, Facebook now) were basically the same. I'm pretty sure the room rates at the Mansion were lower 15 years ago as well.

So, it gets more difficult for the frequent visitor, or the expat to pay the same price as 15 years ago. You remember 1700 - 1, I remember 1900 - 1. Either way, even if you pay 200 k now, for what you paid 150 k for then, you're getting the same package for almost half price, based on your income, while the girl is charging about 15% less based upon her cost of living.

Nothing exists in a vacuum. Either the price will eventually go up, or the service will go down.[/QUOTE]The cost of living doesn't warrant such high price quotes. Look where the majority of these women are living. In low-income barrios with the bare minimum for the BARE minimum. If they live in those areas then they are most definitely shopping for food and other necessities for the bare minimum. I get that price does increase over time but where I disagree is how exponentially it seems to increase. Things don't change that rapidly in a decade in these countries. The overall population doesn't make enough money to make that possible. So her making double what she used to make 10 years ago might seem reasonable for a foreigner but when you look at where she lives then that story goes out the window. And don't use that whole number of hours she stays with you as an argument because I have spent days in Centro and nights in Poblado. So I know from experience that these girls can be walking the streets or even in clubs like Conejitas and not get a single date. So they waste all their time and return home empty-handed. So if they end up spending a few hours with you in a room with AC, getting to drink your beer, eat whatever food you have to offer her, and maybe fucking you for a few 20 minutes sessions (let's face it not many guys are fucking for a complete HR or longer) then she is doing way better than standing on one spot or walking in loops hoping some guy scoops her up. So unless you are getting her to film videos, nude pics, anal, or absolutely everything you want then she doesn't deserve any extra funds just based on the number of hours she happens to spend with you. And if you are paying for anything less than exactly what you want then you're doing it wrong because there are so many women out there that they shouldn't be dictating how your fantasy should go. Remember they ain't y'all girlfriends its a business negotiation. I doubt any of them are coming around and fucking you for the free no matter how many fantasy stories people be posting on here. And through my experience, a lot of them seem to think they can because you guys are allowing them to run things. I tell a girl exactly what I want and if she ain't willing to give it to me then I move on to someone who will because at the end of the day I spend my money how I want to spend it. And yes I understand it's their body but its also their job and my money. My point is they should be getting paid the bare minimum. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

[QUOTE=SJobs;2436805]A comparable girl in San Francisco will cost 800 dollars per hour, and she will be full of attitude. 300 dollars is good for a girl in her late 20's to early 30's who gives decent service (complete subpar compared to fb girls from Medellin). Asian girls in the US is a bit more affordable, about 220-250 dollars per hour, you get a decent looking Korean girl in her 30's who give pretty good service, still nowhere near the fb girl experience.[/QUOTE]It is always funny to me that we tend to argue about prices. That is something that I will not do. I know what I will pay and what I won't pay, I am no longer into paying $250-$300 mil for 2 hours, I will let you newbies have at it. I have been banging 3-4 girls daily for a total of $200 mil, but it took me 2 years to build up my stable.

Many BMs feel like you have to treat these girls like humans and blah blah blah. I am the first to tell you, if you show any kind of weakness to these girls, they will take you for just that, a weak individual. I have helped girls, met their parents, grandparents, family and friends, they still saw the Gringo as weak person who they could take advantage. Soon as I learned what the cost of living was in Medellin, things quickly changed.

I am not auditioning for a role as a husband or a boyfriend; I have seen what that can get you in Medellin. Nothing disturbs or upsets the masses of women in Medellin more than seeing a Gringo every day who will not spend a penny with them. The girls who I do give appointments to have learned to keep our business between us or there will be no more appointments. If you are here for a short period say, one to two weeks, you have to try and bang as many chics as possible, but when you are here on a 3 month run or longer, you can pick and choose who you want to bang, and then you will see just how far $200 mil can go.

I will not beat a dead horse, I have learned my lessons and I will not go against my rules. I see so many things that BMs do that are 360 degrees against what I would do or how I pursue a situation, but that's the beauty of this board, we all have different ways of skinning a cat. I know who's lying, who's full of BS, and who actually comes to Medellin and can give you play by play up to the moment reports about Medellin and Centro. I personally do not do Poblado, I have no reason to be overcharged for food and everyday things because I am an American. I fluently speak Spanish and I don't need anyone to hold my hand. If you think paying $300-$600 mil for TLN is fine, by all means have at it, but don't complain about prices of tickets and an inability to get back to Medellin when you're blowing $200-$300 a day on chics, just doesn't seem rational to me.

If you can blow $10,000 a month on girls and party habits, by all means you should have the funds to return to Medellin whenever you get ready. **Personally, I have asked about Thailand and couldn't get a straight answer about the pricing, so I decided to not travel Pattaya and Bangkok because no one could give me the answers that I was looking for. So I remain in Medellin and I am quite happy. If there is ever a place that has as many women and the women are as reasonable as Medellin then I might give it a try, but when one person tells me that Thailand is a little bit more, and another says its about the same, given the travel time and the time it would take me to learn the surrounding area, I'll be stuck in South America until the right wing man comes along and wants to take me out East and show me around. **Here is a little thing that I have been banging daily and she even came over during this Quarantine to bang my brains out for 3 hours for $120, only because she had to pay for a taxi back to her barrio. Pollo Negro is out!

That started 7 PM Friday night. In case anyone didn't get the point, police cars and motorcycles are circulating and repeating the message over their PA systems. The first tie I saw a helicopter Friday night it reminded me of one of those 90's end of the world movies with Morgan Freeman in the role of President of the United States.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2436807]A friend of mine who lives in Laureles told me that on Sunday afternoon there were helicopters flying overhead telling people to stay in doors.[/QUOTE]

Rappi and uber eats are in full effect. I mentioned I was in Exito today, fully stocked and there was an unusual number of employees in the aisles restocking merchandise. The cashier told me they extended her hours. I interpreted that to mean the store would stay open later than usual. I took the Metro to Centro this afternoon. I was surprised to see a few girls around ground zero. I didn't venture behind the church because there were more night crawlers wandering around at 3 in the afternoon than I've ever seen. On the way back to the metro I passed 4 soldiers on horseback, surreal. The metro is pretty much empty. It was a pleasure.

I have dates lined up beginning Tuesday. Now that the Tuesday quarantine pause is cancelled, I don't see the point in waiting. I'm going to go ahead and make some calls for tomorrow. A big problem I am having is too much food and not enough exercise. Unless you are walking a dog or carrying groceries the police give dirty looks.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2436762]I suggest you stock up on as much as you can which you probably already have, because when they extend the lock-down, not "if", in my opinion, it will be total mayhem.

I have no idea what El Centro is like, and since your on the ground there, hopefully you can figure a way to go there with out a problem if it still is a viable option somehow.

The Venezuelans must be going crazy there, and my bet is you could easily get as many as you wanted if they were available.

Hopefully you have some fully vetted ones in your line up you can call. If not, my bet is there is a ton of FayBoo and Tinder Chicas available.

You could easily have them travel by Taxi to a market or store close to where you live, meet them there, and then walk separately to your place not to violate the one person shopping rule I heard about.

If I was there, I would rotate them into my apartment, albeit the Portero's would be giving me some funny looks with the parade of Chicas coming and going, but who gives a shit with what's happening now.

I am sure your figuring your options out, and please keep reporting on what's going on there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bill;2436438]This video should be shown in airplane monitors prior to touchdown in all Colombian airports.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX73layhN1k&feature=youtu.be[/URL]

Thailand and Cambodia should be included in the group[/QUOTE]No matter where you go (Colombia, CR, DR, Asia, etc), there's always some guys saying how clueless guys are ruining the economy by overpaying for pussy. Load of crap. The only thing these guys are hurting is their own wallet. What one guy pays has no direct effect on others. The girls who are getting these big dollars will then ask for those same amounts, but nobody is FORCED to pay it. That's the beauty of it, the price will return to what it should be very quickly.

It's always cheap Charlie's who could barely afford to be there in the first place complaining about this.

Hey guys,

By the title you can tell I'm a big fan of big asses. I'm planning on going to Medellin in after the whole Corona thing blows over but anyway, I want to know what area has the biggest booties. I like them big and jiggly. Anyway if you guys can help that would mean a lot.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2436756]What you pay is what you pay. Nothing more. I had a girl insist on 250 k. I paid it and felt like I got my money's worth. A few months later she came over for 90 k. The next week someone else paid her 200 k.

Find what satisfies you. Find the price point you're comfortable with. Then figure out a way to get satisfaction at your price. Don't worry about what someone else is paying. Don't worry about the service they are getting. Don't worry that his girls might look better or worse than your girls. Just do you.[/QUOTE]I completely agree with your sentiment. I am a little amused at the number of posts extolling the virtue of paying as little as you can get away with. After all we have to do this or the prices will go up. Seriously?

Just as an aside, I haven't met a single FB or casa girl that grew up with the hope of fucking old fat gringos that can't even speak the language for enough to pay the rent and meals for a few days to a week.

It's not that I advocate altruism but I try to agree to the going rate (150-200 for a few hours) and if the service is exemplary not only will she probably get another cita but I always kick in another 30-50 mil.

I hear people say, well overpaying doesn't get you better service. Maybe not for them but when I see a girl a second time, she is usually right on time or damn close and she usually goes full out to make it a great time.

She knows damn well that if she doesn't that the next girl will.

The girl that shows up and wants to add to the price for anything and wants to hurry and beats me to the shower after we've scored a goal. Well she doesn't get any tip money and she doesn't get a second date.

Oh and I'm that 60's bald pudgy gringo (but I can speak on an intermediate level).

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2436808]My point is they should be getting paid the bare minimum. [/QUOTE]As long as you don't get angry when they don't accept your price.

There are hookers in South America that can command a premium. It has happened to me in Buenos Aires and Rio. The one in Buenos Aires just laughed at me and five minutes later she was talking with another guy. She looked like Jennifer Hewitt in her early twenties. I matched on Tinder with a well-followed Medellin Instagram chica. I asked the Board if I offered her $600 k did they think she would come out and meet me at my hotel. The wisdom of the Board said "no". So there are guys on this Board who have made plays for the high end models or influencers as they call themselves these days.

The Facebook chicas you are talking about are more the girl next door types. I have stayed in the known mongering apartments and have seen many chicas walk out of the building and I do not think I am doing much worse than anyone else. There was one guy that I thought really scored. She spoke conversational English, good-looking face and had a great body.

Of course, if you spend more time in Medellin you should be doing better than us guys that fly in for a week once a year.

Lucky for me, the new concept of beauty, the Kardashian look, is not really my thing, so I am not necessarily trolling in the same waters these days.