Why I like The Sue (The Remix)
Sunday in The Sue again. Sleep in. Wake up for a leisurely brunch at Schnitzel Paradise, eggs, bacon, roasted potatoes, fruit and toast. Met a a Century 21 real estate agent from Norway that has been living in The Sue for 23 years. We had discussion about the United States of America. And it was interesting to get his view of the country. He was dead on point with all of his evaluations. Right down to understanding completely my personal disenchantment with the place. He gave me his card and I put it into my whatsapp. Never hurts to have another good business contact. Maybe I will join The Sue community. I have certainly been impressed during my relatively long term stay.
A chica I and another brother have nicknamed "Coca Cola" came up to me and offered me everything I like for 1500 pesos. But I was in the middle of my breakfast and you better be having a life threatening emergency if you want me to disturb my breakfast for you. I took her number and sent her off. But not before she asked me to buy her a coca cola. LOL!
I had some errands to run. Walked everywhere to accomplish what I needed. Wanted a manicure. Seora offered manicure for 500 pesos. I explained to her that I lived in Santo Domingo and I have a chica that gives me a manicure and pedicure for 600 pesos. Without even asking, she invited me to sit down and said 300 pesos for my manicure was fine. I am a shrewd negotiator or what. I missed my calling LOL!
Manicure done but unfortunately it was not even worth the 300 pesos. My chica in Santo Domingo este does a much better job. And does not really even want to accept the 50 peso tip I always give her. I head back to my hotel. I'm chilling and hunger hits me fierce. I'm not going to able to wait to have my late supper as normal. So I head over to my favorite restaurant in The Sue: Pirates Bay. Shout out to Mr. T for the initial introduction to this place. For me this is [I]the spot[/I]. Dinner is complete. Pay the very reasonable bill in comparison to the quality of the food, service, and the rail side ocean view table that I got. Back to my hotel. Out on my balcony chatting with friends who want to be me right now.
The Sue has been having a lot of problems with electricity lately. There have been power losses almost everyday for 2 to 4 hours. Power is out again this afternoon. The only thing I don't like about the hotel I stay at is no generator for these situations. But I just shift operations to the balcony. You see I know the the Dominican Republic. I don't lose internet because I have a hotspot. And my good buddy Jeff sent me one of the portable batteries. I keep my internet and phone charged under the worst of conditions.
Power comes back on. So I shower up and head down the street to Schnitzel Paradise again for my midnight dessert. I get it to go. Tonight The Sue is dead. The talent is weak. Probably one of the worst nights I have seen since I've been here. But that is not a problem for me. I'm working my dating apps. LOL! I three solid deals for what I like a 3000 pesos (after intense negotiations). But then one of my favs hits me up with 2000 peso offer. I lie and tell all the girls that the power has been out and my battery is low and I need to put it on the charger.
It's about 10 PM and I fall asleep (damn I am getting old). I wake up around 3 AM and check my phone. Lots of angry messages. Sunday night in The Sue and there are not many clients around. One of my favs has send me two angry face emojis. I hit her back and tell her I fell asleep. She says I was lying that she say me in Kings but did not bother me (her lie). I don't even go to that place. Not my style. But anyway I tell here if she wants she can come over. She agrees. 3 AM in the morning and it a great session because she was very friendly tonight.
Of course she starts asking me for more money during foreplay and as we are getting undressed. If you read my previous account of being with her you know that does not bother me. She wants to move into "amiga con derechos" status. I'm fine with that because I like her. We have a great session. Gets my "leche afuera." And she says "wao, es mucho." Yes, sweetie. I haven been with anybody for three day because I could not get the deal that I wanted.
She asks for 1000 pesos more. I give her 500 pesos (ok, ok, I'm weak). She is not completely happy with that and gives me some more pouting and begging. But I tell her it is better than nothing. She even me invites me back to the bed for some cuddling. Want to sleep with me for the night. Nah, baby I know that move. Just another opportunity for you ask for more money later in the morning. Finally she realizes that although I bent a little with the 500. I'm not going to break completely and give her another 500. She rolls out without incident. And I am left with very pleasant reminder of why I like The Sue. I cannot wake up in the early morning hours, look at my phone and have a girl at my door in a matter of minutes. I might just need to reconsider where I live. LOL!
I am SubCmdr and this is another boots on the ground report.
The going rate is a bell curve
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2697871]Damn so if they paid $150ST; They can just say they paid the going rate?
I had a chica just left and I paid her the going rate.[/QUOTE]Going rate is subjective if we just get one person opinion. The going is an aggregated number based on many factors. Customers preference, girls looks etc. Just like there isn't a going rate for all houses. We know the median prices bases on areas, schools, etc.
So if we look at girls that go to Bailes (the agreed best location to hunt I sosua for qualify girls) , we can say half of fhe girl at bailes will take 2500 or less ST, 80% would take 3000ST or less, 95% will take 3500ST or less. This leave us with only 5% who want more than $3500 pesos. Though that 5% will have some very attrative girls, the remaining 95% still have a good line up. I think its still a good line up if someone can get 19 girls out of 20 at Bailes.
If one guy just says he paid 3500 frankly nobody here will know if that girl true negotiated bottom price is 1500,200 or 2500. However, with more information on prices we can make an educated a guess on the going rate.
In a nutshell the going rate in sosua is the price that 95% of girls will take a the top venue. Right now Bailes. My answer is 3500 peso ST.
The Art Of the Pussy Deal. Comments and Thoughts
Great report Subcmdr. Enjoy reading your reports on the SU and seeing how you move. A few things. The whole going rate is in the end bullshit but it helps a newbie and / or first time person that's coming to the SU to gauge prices. Now that the monger has a sense of what these hunnies are tryng to get it's up to him to either negotiate down, pay the quote on quote paying rate (which basically means the fastest way to close the deal with the hunny) or pay even higher if she starts out asking for it.
What you just display is classic text book negotiating skils when high intangibles come into play. You know the language, study the culture, have time on your side and have plenty of other options to choose from if she doesn't agreed to your price so its not a big deal for you. Hell I'm surprised after you gave her your intital price that you didn't cut it short and just paid her no nevermind and just totally moved on. Now looking at a new guy perspective that's in the SU that doesn't have your intangibles as he only have 5 days before hes back in sex prison USA, he is most likely going to take her initial offer because he doesn't want to do deep negotiating over almost 75 bucks because in his mind he pays more then that in filling up his gas tank every few days in the states, as right now hes harder then chinese math and needs some release from this young hunny dip LOL.
BTW IMHO theres a huge difference in quality of females that are just outright in the street selling that thing to females that have working gigs and are just trying to make a little extra doe. Theres an old school saying. Its not what you do, its how you do it.
To me pussy cost regardless wether you marry a quote on quote regular woman to an outright calle chica so how she moves tells me alot about her. When me and Grownman1 had bought some chicas from Puerto Plata to the SU beach one thing I notice was that they stayed exactly by our side at the table. The deal didn't go as planned with them (a mix up with the ladies so one of them wasnt going to get paid) but she didn't go walking around afterwards trying to catch a gringo as walking in the SU with the other hoes was beneath them. They don't want to get word out that they was in the SU with their tongue all out in fotos and streets, trying to catch a sucker of the day. They carried themselves higher in regard even though in the end they trying to get paid too. And to me them showing that was one of the indicators in factoring "good quality pussy" and the reason why GM messed with them in the first place.
Anyway again enjoy reading your reports on the Sue, keep them coming.
An indicator to better quality
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2698052]I would not say that means good quality or that they hold themselves higher. All that says to me is that they are ashamed to be doing it whereas the chicks on the street have gotten over that shame and are no longer scared to admit "publicly" yeah I fuck for money.[/QUOTE]Agreed but you don't think its an atleast "good indicator" of possibly getting better quality pussy because she shown or atleast fronted that she's not out there in the street day and night just smashing every dude that's willing to throw money at her. Its like a women who front like her doo doo don't stink as you never know when she ever took a dump even though she stayed with you for say over a month. We all know what it is, her shit stinks just like mines but its the alure and mystique of a women and her puting up a front, taking a shit at night while you sleep, doing the flush as she goes, with the air freshener on stand by so you can't smell her stinky ass (LOL) that's a good indicator for better quality.
Not saying its the overall major factor in quality but your odds are better then constantly choosing from everyday all day street chicas that's taking a shit on the side street showing no shame for all the world to smell and see.
The intelligent discussion continues
I enjoyed reading your responses to my report, Coolie High. They generated some additional thoughts and comments from your fellow man in the arena.
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2697917]Great report Subcmdr. Enjoy reading your reports on the SU and seeing how you move. A few things. The whole going rate is in the end bullshit but it helps a newbie and / or first time person that's coming to the SU to gauge prices. Now that the monger has a sense of what these hunnies are tryng to get it's up to him to either negotiate down, pay the quote on quote paying rate (which basically means the fastest way to close the deal with the hunny) or pay even higher if she starts out asking for it.[/QUOTE]Thank you Coolie High. Just passing on knowledge and experiences as others have done for me in the past. And I agree with you about the [I]going rate[/I] especially people posting about it without putting their actual numbers behind it when they are negotiating.
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2697917]What you just display is classic text book negotiating skils when high intangibles come into play. You know the language, study the culture, have time on your side and have plenty of other options to choose from if she doesn't agreed to your price so its not a big deal for you. Hell I'm surprised after you gave her your intital price that you didn't cut it short and just paid her no nevermind and just totally moved on.[/QUOTE]You are dead on point and make a very astute observation about me and some of the best qualities I posses as a man in the arena. The results others receive may be better or worse depending upon the individual skill set and desires that they bring into the arena. Either way, it is the critic who does not count.
Why did I continue to negotiate with her? Two reasons:
1. Because I want to hit that 95 mph fast ball out of the park. And the only way to do that is to get in the batters box and swing away. I'm not up in here talking theory. I'm giving a boots on the ground bird's eye view of what I am doing up in The Sue.
2. Because I know every chica has a price that will change based on her personal circumstances at the time. I knew that if the chica ever needed 2000 pesos and didn't have a good option to get it from someplace else. She would hit me up. And eventually she did.
In Santo Domingo, chicas that were standing pat on 5000 DOP were asking to suck my dick in my vehicle for 1000 DOP when the pandemic hit. Circumstances change.
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2697917]Now looking at a new guy perspective that's in the SU that doesn't have your intangibles as he only have 5 days before hes back in sex prison USA, he is most likely going to take her initial offer because he doesn't want to do deep negotiating over almost 75 bucks because in his mind he pays more then that in filling up his gas tank every few days in the states, as right now hes harder then chinese math and needs some release from this young hunny dip LOL.[/QUOTE]Walk off home run Coolie High. It is precisely because I have time on my side that the negotiation worked. Eight days to close the deal is not going to work for someone on a 5 day vacation. LOL!
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2697917]BTW IMHO theres a huge difference in quality of females that are just outright in the street selling that thing to females that have working gigs and are just trying to make a little extra doe. Theres an old school saying. Its not what you do, its how you do it.[/QUOTE]At one point after I first moved here I would have agreed with you. But after spending time on the island my position now is since prostitution is legal (under certain conditions) in the Dominican Republic, selling social / sexual services on the street is as legitimate of a business as the guys that work the fruit cart that I buy from everyday while I am in The Sue.
The girls that are selling social / sexual services on the side, can be of higher quality or they may not be. You really don't know this until you have experienced the qualities of their social sexual services. If a waitress or bartender is going home with a new guy every night that is 365 guys a year (minus their day off, vacation time if they get any and their period. But they can still suck a dick and take it in the ass while they are on their period). And that does not include the sex they have for fun. When they are letting some Dominican dude run up in them head naked and flood the zone.
I have said it once and I'll say it again, in my opinion, the mere fact that a girl has a job does not put her "higher" category with me. If you feel otherwise, no problem. If you like it, I love it!
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2697917]Anyway again enjoy reading your reports on the Sue, keep them coming.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your kind words. You know I was very close to calling it quits. But ever since the intelligent discussion in the [B]Boom Boom Room[/B] broke out, I have hope. The hope is that not only can I contribute useful information but also learn something too.