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I used to go to Russia 4-5 years ago. Then I discoverd South America. Prices much cheaper there. A $100.00-150.00 in Russia! No way! Why fly all the way there and pay, hotel, air and high chick prices. You can have 3-4 four girls in South America for this. And you don't freeze your ass off. Stop paying these ridiculous prices.
I'm not one to get into big arguments about pricing. I believe in paying higher for higher quality. Its about value.
I don't know why you want to come in here and start an argument. The pricing in Russia is very very rigid. Most web sites list prices and they range from 1500R (about $55/hr) for lower quality to 3000R/hr for premium. This is the way it is. Negotiated pricing in the nightclubs is different but the selection is very limited there.
I'm familiar with South America, Brazil in particular, so I know the pricing. Sure you can get REAL cheap lays in S. America, but in Rio or Sao Paulo, for good girls, it can be as expensive or more so than Russia. When you add up the cost of admission, room and girl at a place like Bomboa its almost $200. For a thermas in Rio its over $100. My point is that the Russian six is not that much more expensive than Brasil.
You are correct that the mongering experience is not as good in Russia for a casual visitor when you add up the cost of hotels, the difficulty in finding good girls, the selection, the language problem. Yes, for pure mongering value South America is better.
But most guys coming to Russia are coming for business or because they like Russian girls. If they come for business all of your points about travel and hotel do not apply. And since they have to be in Russia, they might as well enjoy themselves.
If they prefer Russian girls then Russia is the best place. Its better than paying 2x for same girl in Prague. And you will not find great Russian girls in South America. So it depends what you are looking for.
Basically, your post is uncalled for, and out of line. Let the people who like South America go and be happy. But don't tell others they are stupid for not going there. Besides, if everyone goes to South America it will get more and more expensive which will be bad for those of us who love it.
Actually, I'm living in Russia, so your comments on hotel etc do not apply to me.
100 Pesos,
I've spent some time in Buenos Aires, but not Brazil. Met some Brazilian chicas in BA, so I know something about Brazil, if only by extension. And, everyone's been to TJ, claro que si!
There is one overriding reason to monger in Eastern Europe. If you're looking for sheer feminine pulchritude, slavic women have the rest of the world beat, hands down. IMHO.
Latin chicas are cute and fun with loads of personality, but I have yet to see one that I would rate more than an 8, in terms of looks, and those were club dancers in BA, who, for the most part are either unavailable, or, will cost you more than a 6 or a 7 in Moscow. Que lastima!
So, yes, latin chicas are cheaper, for a reason. You are getting what you pay for.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky]100 Pesos,
I've spent some time in Buenos Aires, but not Brazil. Met some Brazilian chicas in BA, so I know something about Brazil, if only by extension. And, everyone's been to TJ, claro que si!
There is one overriding reason to monger in Eastern Europe. If you're looking for sheer feminine pulchritude, slavic women have the rest of the world beat, hands down. IMHO.
Latin chicas are cute and fun with loads of personality, but I have yet to see one that I would rate more than an 8, in terms of looks, and those were club dancers in BA, who, for the most part are either unavailable, or, will cost you more than a 6 or a 7 in Moscow. Que lastima!
So, yes, latin chicas are cheaper, for a reason. You are getting what you pay for.[/QUOTE]I couldn´t agree more.
My country is full of brazilian girls and most of them are short, plump and not attractive at all.
At first sight they seem friendly, but they are well known for their cynism and hypocrisy always looking for gullible men to cheat an ripp-off.
Gentlemen,
Competition isn’t good for mongers. Oligopolies are quite better.
So we should agree Slavic women are the worst and most expensive in the world, ins’t it? In exchange, Africa, America, Asia are lovely places to succeed.
Anyway, everybody is free to choose according their taste.
Best regards.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky]100 Pesos,
I've spent some time in Buenos Aires, but not Brazil. Met some Brazilian chicas in BA, so I know something about Brazil, if only by extension. And, everyone's been to TJ, claro que si!
There is one overriding reason to monger in Eastern Europe. If you're looking for sheer feminine pulchritude, slavic women have the rest of the world beat, hands down. IMHO.
Latin chicas are cute and fun with loads of personality, but I have yet to see one that I would rate more than an 8, in terms of looks, and those were club dancers in BA, who, for the most part are either unavailable, or, will cost you more than a 6 or a 7 in Moscow. Que lastima!
So, yes, latin chicas are cheaper, for a reason. You are getting what you pay for.[/QUOTE]I take it that Stravinsky is not an ass man. Sure, Russian and EE girls are beautiful but they (generally) don't score well in the ass department.
If you prefer nice round booty with a small waist, then most latin women will fit the bill. I've been to Europe and Brazil and I must say - while Italy gets my vote for being the ass capital of Europe, Brazil wins the award for ass capital of the world! Plus (a big PLUS), Brazilan women, from personal experience, are by far the best performers in the sack.
So if you like your ass square and flat, then go to Russia/EE. Sure, there is some fine booty out there, but it is more the exception than the rule. Also, although I've had a few good experiences with EE girls, overall they were pretty lame performance-wise.
So it really depends on your physical taste in woman. If you like women from the front, go to Russia/EE. If you like women from the back, go to South America.
And if you want the best lay of your life, especially from P4P, go to Brazil!
-BB
No, Russian girls are seldom equipped with J.Lo asses, but they'd look damn silly with them. Big asses simply don't look good on white girls. That said, Russian girls have great shapely firm asses. Sure you'll find the bony kind too... but square asses they ain't. Its a world of hardbodies in Dyevland.
I don't really see the point in arguing though, both Brazilian and Russian women are hot and know how to fuck... and obviously enjoy it as well. If you've had a poor performing Russian girl then I am sorry... most likely she was a long way away from home and hated her work, maybe even was forced to do it. Poor girl. If she's doing it out of her own free will though (or based on personal financial need and choice) she'll usually give 110%. Of the pros I've had about 70% performed really well, 20% were average and 10% were poor performers and obviously disliked their work and the kind of men they served. That's not bad odds for P4P. In fact, the 10% "poor performers" may be exaggerated... I can only recall 2 or 3 at all that were REALLY lousy... I tend to think some of the other poor performances were due to ME and my lousy attitude on a particular night, my drunkeness or whatever.
The amount spent doesnt make a difference on performance, but I tend to find that the middle price range performs best... ultra cheap and overly expensive usually feed markets which dont promote or reward well-performing girls... the super cheap to cheapskates and drunkards and the overly expensive to the uninformed, the stupid and the helpless business traveller who will fuck anything superficially attractive at any price.
As for general pricing, Russia might be more expensive than some other places, but doesnt have to be ridiculously so. If you can't afford $100 to get laid, then you'd be better off somewhere else.
DS,
I've seen a few nice booties on EE girls and they looked great!!! Very rare though. Here's an example of some big booty on a white girl - proportion is everything!
[url]http://www.hotside.com.br/01656/xxx.htm[/url]
In EE, you are more likely to run into Paris Hilton booty - if you can call it booty. Thank god many of them make up for it with nice legs!
I hope you are correct regarding performance. The only Russian girls I've experienced have been in the CR, Amsterdam, and Spain. But I hope to visit the motherland soon. BTW, In Spain I had both an EE girl and a Brazilian - the Brazilian won in a landslide ;-) I also consider Spain to be neutral ground, thus my opinion.
And $100 for great sex with a hot girl is not expensive.
-BB
If big shapely asses are your thing, then Russia really isnt ideal. You are right, youll get more Paris Hilton than J.Lo.
One notable exception are the tall girls, sometimes they have the most fantastic pillow-like asses which are neither flabby or bony… pure joy.
Generally speaking though, thin girls are more common and the legs are to die for. Doesnt mean the asses are bony in Russia or EE, they are really well proportioned... but definitely not what you would call big or real booty. And I dont think Russian girls even know what cellulite is… I cant recall the last time I even saw it. Honestly, I swear it doesn’t exist in EE. Russian girls are obsessed with taking care of their bodies and mother nature has made it easy for them.
BTW your Russian Claudia looks like she has a nice ass, but I remain by my contention that big asses don’t look good on white chicks. This Claudia would be considered fat by most Russian girls…. I have had a couple of bigger assed girls in EE and since they were young, their asses were really solid... great performers... but this body type isnt as common as the skinny type.
As for Russian girls performance in places in Europe or elsewhere, its mixed. For example in German FKKs Ive had both great Russian girls and really atrocious ones… the hit rate for top performers was considerably higher in Russia and Ukraine percentage wise.
The Brazilian girls Ive had in German FKKs were also all good performers.
I enjoy the mix… Slavic girls, Latinas, Germans, Thais… but in the end I still prefer EE girls. Missing on my to do list are Japanese, French, Mexican, Argentinian… I have a lot of fucking left to do…
Doc,
Don't get me wrong. As I said, there are so many beautiful women in EE. But out of all the girlies that I have had - Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Mexican, Russian, Czech, Gypsy, Slovakian, Italian, American, Canadian, Puerto Rican, Dutch, Spanish, Hungarian, Bulgarian, Swede, and Brazilian, it's the Brazilian women that linger in my mind just about every day. The combination of those amazing bodies and their love of fucking and sucking just makes me melt. I can't wait to go back (although I am tempted to make a stop in Colombia on the way).
BTW, that link was actually a white Brazilian girl. There must be something in the water down there because you rarely find ass like that on a white girl anywhere else.
And I do agree about one thing: You can bounce a quarter off of those European asses. They definitely are nice and firm.
But I do somewhat disagree about the cellulite comment. I can't really speak for Russia, but after spending some time at the Prague public pool one summer, I was amazed at the number of women who had cellulite. I'm not talking about the older women. There were woman who were young and thin and yet, they had cellulite! Must be a result of growing up on those tasty Czech sausages (no pun intended). Hopefully this is only a regional phenomenon.
I will try to make a run on Russia or Ukraine this summer. Perhaps I need some more experiences to change my preference. BTW, if you really want to see some fine examples of Russian/EE beauties, try to find a copy of the April 2005 Vanity Fair. No, I don't read that shit, but while waiting for a connecting flight, I noticed the cover in an airport bookstore. Had a whole article with photos of up and coming EE models. Wow, these women were perfect examples of EE 9's & 10's. But there was one photo that backed up my ass opinion. If you find the mag, you'll know what I mean -
Paris Hilton, anyone?
-BB
Regarding my last post's reference to the Apr 05 Vanity Fair, I just happend to find this link! Enjoy!
[url]http://www.vanityfair.com/features/outtakes/050307feou[/url]
-BB
I will weigh in here as an avowed fan of shapely asses. I prefer the classic Brasileira looks - small natural titties, tiny waist and big round bunda. Ah, there is nothing like that look in the world.
Now you can find lookers all over. I even found a Thai girl in Singapore that had a J-Lo booty, and a gorgeous Thai face. This was like a 4 leaf clover.
In Russia you can find some nice butts. Not bubble butts but nice firm tooshies. Like in this photo:
[url]http://www.kisski.ru/Intim/photos/p788_5.jpg[/url]
I think even the biggest Brazil booser will admit there is some decent padding there, and the (key) waist to ass ratio is very good.
Here is another, and I can personally attest to the veracity of these photos. Outstanding body, world class:
[url]http://www.kisski.ru/Intim/photos/p1029_5.jpg[/url]
While Brasil is still "the place" for nice booty, I have actually seen a larger number of shapely butts in Russia than I expected, and see no reason to complain.
[QUOTE=Rovnak]In Russia you can find some nice butts. Not bubble butts but nice firm tooshies. Like in this photo:
[url]http://www.kisski.ru/Intim/photos/p788_5.jpg[/url]
I think even the biggest Brazil booser will admit there is some decent padding there, and the (key) waist to ass ratio is very good.[/QUOTE]You should better go to Budapest if you want to meet her, this is hungarian (former ?) pornstar Henriett : [url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/henriett.html[/url] and [url]http://www.modelshrines.com/models/h/heni.shtml[/url].
They even have forgotten to remove the watermark "Ebinamodels" on this one : [url]http://www.kisski.ru/Intim/photos/p788_2.jpg[/url]. Original photos here : [url]http://www.ebinamodels.com/magazine/kat/index.php[/url]
But still good example of nice white butt :)
[QUOTE=Rovnak]
Here is another, and I can personally attest to the veracity of these photos. Outstanding body, world class:
[url]http://www.kisski.ru/Intim/photos/p1029_5.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]Damn, that second photo was amazing. I seriously hope that Russian women with asses like that have self-image issues. That'll make getting booty like that easier and cheaper. On the other hand, in Brazil she'd be considered prime meat and thus command a prime price.
-BB
That's fantastic booty in those links Rovnak!
As for viewing quality EE poon, I have found the best in Perfect10 magazine, especially the older issues. The majority of the girls are from EE, all natural, all hot as bricks.
[url]www.perfect10.com[/url]
BB:
You come to EE, I'll go to Brazil and afterwards we can meet in a German FKK to compare notes.... :)