Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

I decided I should give Nataree another go. My first experience a year ago was so so (see my last report). So this time I went there around 6pm (I thing it was Friday). I recommend this time, as I finished and was exiting at 8pm I saw so many guys at the fishbawl you couldn't see inside, may be 20-30 guys crowding the place. While at 6pm I was one of the 3 in total.

Anyway, this time I went straight to the papasan and said I want one of the girls from fishbawl that does BBBJ (I wish they understood this phrase, life would have been a lot easier! LOL). He pretended he understood but I don't think he gave a damn. So he throw a few numbers at me and I picked a younger, prettier one of his recommendations.

But as soon as he motioned the girl, suddenly the smile wiped off her face and she turned and pulled an ugly face to her friend. I noticed this right away and thought this girl is not going to give me a good service pulling face like that. Not sure how much they can see from the inside behind the glass, but they can sure see enough.

Anyway, I said I don't want that one. So he recommended another, again to be sure I asked him to make sure she does BBBJ. He then pointed at the girl and started some funny sign langauge (even I could understand that!). Suddenly the girl pulled a face and started waving that she won't do it, no way. And she turned and told the others what has been requested, you should have been there to see the whole hookers / soupie workers revolt spectacle! It was unbelievable, all the girls started shaking their head and telling each other no way, no way! Even the papasan got a bit worried about the upcoming revolution he might have on his hand and just walked off. It was quite amusing at the same time disappointing for me! What the hell!

It must have had something to do with the Thai loosing face and all that. Once one girl refused like that others just couldn't say otherwise and loose face. So what the hell was I going to do now!

Papasan pointing at nearly hundred girls sitting outside and saying these are cost more, so I say do they do BBBJ, he was so worried about another revolt outside the fishbawl he just walked off again! LOL (real funny this time).

Now my Thai is hardly conversational, only a few words and phrases, and most of the girls there can't speak any English (I sometime get the feeling that's why they are there and not in Suk or Nana making more money). But I tried to get a price from a few girls and see if they do BBBJ. Very hard going, one said 2600B and was very shy. But what a cutie, fabulous look and body, (real) tits to die for. I tried to confirm my requirement to no avail so I said fock it, this girl is so hot I got to take her. Now to my surprised I asked her if she likes to go with me and she suddenly said no and looked away. What the fock is going on with the place. There must have passed around the word that I was some kind of a pervert or something. !

Anyway, as I was leaving some cutie started waving and pointing at me. I went over and she was a lot more livelier and interested than the rest, again no English. It turned out she wanted 2300B (by the way the fishbawl girls are 2000B, all prices are all in for 90 min if you didn't know). And when I said smoke without condom, she nodded OK, no problem! What a surprise. I noticed she had a bit of a cold, but what the hell, she was young and cute even without any make-up. Incidentally she gave me the damn cold and I still have it 5/6 days on! What we don't do for some hottie.

Cut the story short she was a real sweetie in the room, once the clothes came off I couldn't believe my luck. 19 year old, great body, not a mark or tattoo, and quite accommodating. For some reason we didn't have the mattress in that room, she said something about rooms (or was it girls) from the other side have mattress but not this side! I didn't quite understood it. But didn't care, got some fun in jacuzzi and two nice rounds, various position (90 min) in bed. AND I got my BBBJ that I wished for.

No complains this time but what a drama with fishbawl girls. Not sure what to recommend to you guys really but perhaps it's worth checking out the girls outside, they are young and cute. Ok, a bit more expensive but might worth it. Need some Thai though.

I think it's getting more and more rare to have great BBBJ in Bangkok soapies. Was in town for 2 nights on my way to Northern Laos, first trip to BBK in a long long while, first session at Nataree, hotel nearby.

Looked long time, and finally some cutie with slender body walked in, and papasan said she is not 2600, super sideline 3000 category, new here but he said very good service.

Well, I thought good service will include good raw licking, but it turned out not so, nice personality, but no BBBJ, will not do it even with tip, without BBBJ, CBJ is a turn off for me, the session is dead.

Later that night looked at several different places nearby, Bangkok is getting very expensive, for a doable girl is always the sideline model category, always 2600-3500 range. Decided to take another chance at Amsterdam, for a nice slender but again the face without the slim body does not justify half the cost, astronomical 3700. Again papasan convinced me really good service, BBBJ, okay okay as he said.

The same pattern again, started doing CBJ, requested BBBJ, involuntarily complied for little while, I just knew the session is dead. Threw away a ton of money, really regretted, should have saved for next trip to Chang Ping instead.

The only satisfying BJ I got was the second night from an older freelancer. 27, from Thermae. 1500 ST. I was so happy to get out of Bangkok and Thailand to go into Laos after throwing away cash like trash.

Bangkok is really expensive for saunas, gogos and even freelance, these few doable young ones cost a lot more than the head to toe service by the young and pretty in southern China. Simply in Thailand now, it's virtually impossible to get a nice young cutie to do a full blown BBBJ, CIM, getting rimmed, even at this rediculous high cost which is almost 60-80% of ordinary people' monthly wages for a session. I may have a little CP syndrome, but still sober to realize BKK is a very bad service value for p4p.

[QUOTE=RCA Knight;1210915]I think it's getting more and more rare to have great BBBJ in Bangkok soapies. (snip) Simply in Thailand now, it's virtually impossible to get a nice young cutie to do a full blown BBBJ, CIM, getting rimmed, even at this rediculous high cost which is almost 60-80% of ordinary people' monthly wages for a session. I may have a little CP syndrome, but still sober to realize BKK is a very bad service value for p4p.[/QUOTE]Sorry you are not having a good time here in Bangkok. Prices at soapies and go-go bars tend to be on the high end of the scale.On the whole these days, Bangkok P4P workers are a smart group of women. They know about STDs (not just HIV), and they are very sharp when it comes to money. Realistically, why should a woman risk her health and livelihood by practicing unsafe sex with strangers? The comparison with "ordinary people's monthly wages for a session" is somewhat unrealistic, too. "Ordinary" jobs usually do not require people to be sexually intimate with strangers, and / or risk their lives through exposure to potentially fatal disease.That said, if a Thai women knows you and likes you, most will do just about anything you want without protection. Establishing a "relationship" (of sorts) goes a long way in their eyes.

[quote=rca knight; 1210915]i think it's getting more and more rare to have great bbbj in bangkok soapies. was in town for 2 nights on my way to northern laos, first trip to bbk in a long long while, first session at nataree, hotel nearby.looked long time, and finally some cutie with slender body walked in, and papasan said she is not 2600, super sideline 3000 category, new here but he said very good service.well, i thought good service will include good raw licking, but it turned out not so, nice personality, but no bbbj, will not do it even with tip, without bbbj, cbj is a turn off for me, the session is dead.later that night looked at several different places nearby, bangkok is getting very expensive, for a doable girl is always the sideline model category, always 2600-3500 range. decided to take another chance at amsterdam, for a nice slender but again the face without the slim body does not justify half the cost, astronomical 3700. again papasan convinced me really good service, bbbj, okay okay as he said.the same pattern again, started doing cbj, requested bbbj, involuntarily complied for little while, i just knew the session is dead. threw away a ton of money, really regretted, should have saved for next trip to chang ping instead.the only satisfying bj i got was the second night from an older freelancer. 27, from thermae. 1500 st. i was so happy to get out of bangkok and thailand to go into laos after throwing away cash like trash.bangkok is really expensive for saunas, gogos and even freelance, these few doable young ones cost a lot more than the head to toe service by the young and pretty in southern china. simply in thailand now, it's virtually impossible to get a nice young cutie to do a full blown bbbj, cim, getting rimmed, even at this rediculous high cost which is almost 60-80% of ordinary people' monthly wages for a session. i may have a little cp syndrome, but still sober to realize bkk is a very bad service value for p4p.[/quote]why are you going to soapies for bbbj and cim and rimming etc. ? go to tulip or snow white or mango and you will get it all, for 1500 baht for 90 mins to the girl, and 600 baht to the shop.simple.if you want a simple bbbj then go to lolipop 1 or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. 700 baht for bbbj and cim. simple.if i go looking for a burger and go to the pennisula hotel instead of burger king then i will end up paying a fortune for a burger.sadly, far too many assholes around now who are happy to throw money around. makes the girls lazy and demand more money for less service. its called spoiling the market. welcome to a discussion on pricing again. lol

[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1210919]On the whole these days, Bangkok P4P workers are a smart group of women. They know about STDs (not just HIV), and they are very sharp when it comes to money. Realistically, why should a woman risk her health and livelihood by practicing unsafe sex with strangers?[/QUOTE]You make a good point, Fon Tok, but the converse is also true. What these women are thus offering is in fact not worth having even if it were cheap (and it is highly expensive). Their main customer base are Thai men, who always wear condoms, sometimes even two or three at once, and even for BJs, caring, as they do, not at all about service and only about the attractiveness or physical type of the girl. For the typical farang there is no value whatsoever in modern P4P in these higher-end places.

And just one more point. Oral sex without a condom is obviously not at all dangerous regarding HIV, but rather only for the HPV types viruses which can, it is true, increase the risk of oral cancers. I suspect however that the reason they refuse the practice has less to do with safety and more to do with the fact that most Thai women abhor it, and now that the market favors the prostitute so much (too many customers, fewer and fewer girls entering the trade) , she can dictate terms. And we all know when the lady dictates the terms, all fun is over for the man.

[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1210919]That said, if a Thai women knows you and likes you, most will do just about anything you want without protection. Establishing a "relationship" (of sorts) goes a long way in their eyes.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Tourist mongering is almost always disappointing. I'm not going to start the Thailand vs Germany debate again, but it is all about repetition no matter the city.

I am so used to the thinking of when I pay premium price I will get premium service. At least that is how other popular pay sex destinations work. When I pay the same or less price as these Thai sideliners or models in CP, Zhuhai, Macau, HK, or in Termas in Rio or boates in Sao Paulo, I am pretty sure I will get premium service.

But recent years, this principle does not apply anywhere in Thailand anymore. It's becoming like I am paying premium only for the privilege to spread open the legs of a young slender chick. That's it. This Thai mid upper end market is very spoiled. (I think by Thai local riches)

[QUOTE=RCA Knight; 1211438]I am so used to the thinking of when I pay premium price I will get premium service. At least that is how other popular pay sex destinations work. When I pay the same or less price as these Thai sideliners or models in CP, Zhuhai, Macau, HK, or in Termas in Rio or boates in Sao Paulo, I am pretty sure I will get premium service.But recent years, this principle does not apply anywhere in Thailand anymore. It's becoming like I am paying premium only for the privilege to spread open the legs of a young slender chick. That's it. This Thai mid upper end market is very spoiled. (I think by Thai local riches) [/QUOTE]Principle? Some things in Thailand, actually many things, defy normal Western logic. It's not that the soapie ladies are spoiled, it's just the way things work in those places.As "The Pro" wrote, why not go to the well known three-holer oilies where bare backing is a well known fact? Is is that you don't want the "mid grade" beauty they offer? I imagine if there was a "Sex Tourism BBB," you could write a letter of complaint. Trust me, though, that ain't ever gonna happen! A lot of guys, (not Opebo) , prefer safe sex with P4P providers, including BJs. Saves on pharmaceuticals and worries about HIV, HPV, HSV, chlamydia & other STDS.I'm telling you, though, if you find the right girl and she likes you, she'll do just about anything, except possibly anal as it usually hurts. You just need to put in a little work.I've lived in Thailand for 5+ years, and been to a soapie only one time. Pretty girl, but...

[QUOTE=RCA Knight; 1211438]I am so used to the thinking of when I pay premium price I will get premium service. At least that is how other popular pay sex destinations work. When I pay the same or less price as these Thai sideliners or models in CP, Zhuhai, Macau, HK, or in Termas in Rio or boates in Sao Paulo, I am pretty sure I will get premium service.

But recent years, this principle does not apply anywhere in Thailand anymore. It's becoming like I am paying premium only for the privilege to spread open the legs of a young slender chick. That's it. This Thai mid upper end market is very spoiled. (I think by Thai local riches) [/QUOTE]Knight, I agree with you 100. But truth be told, in my 12 years here service has never been the strongest point of Thai p4p providers with the exception of oilies.

There was a very good article in the Bangkok Post a few weeks ago that centered on a prostitute that worked Lumpini Park. She stated that she preferred going with Thai customers as they only took 10 min or less. For this she would charge 500 Baht. She complained that Farangs want an hour or an hour and a half.

For the most part my sexual experiences with Latin and even Western women have been far more interesting, intense, and satisfying. Yes, I have had some great gals here in LOS, but they are just not up to their sisters in the West. Now, having a relationship is a whole different ballgame. Thai women seem to be far less introspective and far less self-focused, and self-indulgent than their Western counterparts. They are less "up in your s*t," that is if you treat them well. So you win some you lose some.

Would be great to combine the sexual prowess of a Brazilian with the demeanor of a Thai!

[QUOTE=RCA Knight; 1210915]I think it's getting more and more rare to have great BBBJ in Bangkok soapies. Was in town for 2 nights on my way to Northern Laos, first trip to BBK in a long long while, first session at Nataree, hotel nearby.[/quote]To RCA,I agree service in massage place and sauna serivce is better in China, there use to be so many sauna offer FS in Zhu hai and Dongguan area for 300 rmb about 50 USD you get nice quality service BBBJ and Rimming for 30 min before you get to the main course even 2 shots and the girl attuide is much better in China than BKK, but like Thailand quality of service is going down hill because of crack down in China.Fast Eddie 48

Spent a fabulous 90 minutes with Cheer. It was my first time at Mango, it certainly lived up to it's reputation. Cheer made sure it was an extremely aerobic session with all services rendered with enthusiasm.She is a great gal with a firm body and big eyes that stare at you with wonder as you get busy (if of course she is facing you). Try her out boys, you will not be disappointed.

Victoria has closed the shop and functions for a transitory period as a virtual shop where you can order its goods delivered to your home. The plan is to move later to soi 24 or 22. Makes the ways shorter from Mango to Victoria via Snow White.

[QUOTE=Nongpagba;1212547]Victoria has closed the shop and functions for a transitory period as a virtual shop where you can order its goods delivered to your home. The plan is to move later to soi 24 or 22. Makes the ways shorter from Mango to Victoria via Snow White.[/QUOTE]What? Just as I am about to end up in BKK next week and wanted to visit Victoria as my last trip this place didn't yet exist, just to find out it is already closed.

[QUOTE=Nongpagba;1212547]Victoria has closed the shop and functions for a transitory period as a virtual shop where you can order its goods delivered to your home. The plan is to move later to soi 24 or 22. Makes the ways shorter from Mango to Victoria via Snow White.[/QUOTE]About time it did, I went once, that was enough.Too long a walk to get there and lots of rats scratching around in the ceiling really put me off the place.

[QUOTE=Mando Dog; 1212222]Spent a fabulous 90 minutes with Cheer. It was my first time at Mango, it certainly lived up to it's reputation. Cheer made sure it was an extremely aerobic session with all services rendered with enthusiasm.

She is a great gal with a firm body and big eyes that stare at you with wonder as you get busy (if of course she is facing you). Try her out boys, you will not be disappointed.[/QUOTE]I have had Cheer several times and yes she is a very energetic 3 holer. She is a little chatty but aims to please.

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