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i am not too sure about that. samana is starting to shape up right at this very moment. samana already has the highway from sdq airport. they are currently building a new highway which is supposed to go from el catey airport to las terrenas. the beaches in samana are absolutely beautiful. sosua beach is nothing compared to the beaches in samana.
once a town gets a bad rep it is hard to reverse the image. the dr has to have a puta capital and sosua will always be that.
[quote=mr gogo]i agree with you bq ribs, with a slight flip. i think with sosua's proximity to the airport and the beach that eventually a big time developer will cash in on this goal mine. but first they have to stop the hooker trade. to do this their might be an exagerated crime wave (murders, robbery's, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], etc). then heavy police presence.
property values will plument, then the cash cows will pounce. it will be made to cater to the non-mongering tourist, who will go to the beach. upscale restaurants will also evolve, thus making sosua a secret spot for the affluent.
there is alot of russian money being invested in cabarette right now(condos). but the dominican authorities are masters at the bait and flip. so what i imagine will materialize may never happen because the dominicans will alwasy have control. drive from sosua to cabarette and view all the stalled developments.[/quote]
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[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]I am not too sure about that. Samana is starting to shape up right at this very moment. Samana already has the highway from SDQ airport. They are currently building a new highway which is supposed to go from El Catey airport to Las Terrenas. The beaches in Samana are absolutely beautiful. Sosua beach is nothing compared to the beaches in Samana.
Once a town gets a bad rep it is hard to reverse the image. The DR has to have a puta capital and Sosua will always be that.[/QUOTE]Yeah Samana is hot right now, But is if sustainable? Time will tell.
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[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]I am not too sure about that. Samana is starting to shape up right at this very moment. Samana already has the highway from SDQ airport. They are currently building a new highway which is supposed to go from El Catey airport to Las Terrenas. The beaches in Samana are absolutely beautiful. Sosua beach is nothing compared to the beaches in Samana.
Once a town gets a bad rep it is hard to reverse the image. The DR has to have a puta capital and Sosua will always be that.[/QUOTE]Doesn't appear many airlines fly into El Catey airport (AZS, new airport that opened in 2006) from the US. I can remember a few years ago American Airlines flying into Samana, but appears American Airlines no longer flies into Samana.
Juan Dolio is getting a lot of investment money.
Supposedly the guy who owns the Sosua Bay Hotel owns the large parcel of undeveloped land that sits in front of Sosua Beach. That would probably be a prime spot for development, but he would have to evict the beach side businesses. I read in the past, that if the beach side businesses were evicted, some threatened to burn down any new development that took their place.
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[QUOTE=Jaosousa]Doesn't appear many airlines fly into El Catey airport (AZS, new airport that opened in 2006) from the US. I can remember a few years ago American Airlines flying into Samana, but appears American Airlines no longer flies into Samana.
Juan Dolio is getting a lot of investment money.
Supposedly the guy who owns the Sosua Bay Hotel owns the large parcel of undeveloped land that sits in front of Sosua Beach. That would probably be a prime spot for development, but he would have to evict the beach side businesses. I read in the past, that if the beach side businesses were evicted, some threatened to burn down any new development that took their place.[/QUOTE]I'll be in samana next weekend,so i can give a more detailed info from my perspective.
Most airlines bid on slots,POP appears to be full.Eventually international flights will wage a bidding war for AZS as developement increases.
Dominicans want jobs.They revolt when outsiders are doing their work.In my opinion sosua beach has unlimited potential.Furthermore if they ever get to opening la playa at night it can become the premier partyspot.
Samana is being defined.Punta Cana is the all inclusive family spot.The north coast is for the adventurer(girls,bars,snorkeling,kite surfing,drinking,socializing).Santo Domingo has (culture,traffic,girls,clubs etc)everything a big city has.Santiago has a middle class suburbian feel with an underside.What is Samana?
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Burn'n Down the House
Most, if not all of those business owners are squatters anyway. If somebody trespasses on my land that I lawfully own, I'm not going to let them try to intimidate me. My 12 guage Mossberg speaks for itself.
But going back on topic to Samana, its just too damn remote. Yes, its a beautiful area but its a four hour drive from Sosua/Cabarete and really does not have the "civilized" amenities that many expect. Been there, done that and have no expectations of returning there.
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[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]I'll be in samana next weekend,so i can give a more detailed info from my perspective.
Most airlines bid on slots,POP appears to be full.Eventually international flights will wage a bidding war for AZS as developement increases.
Dominicans want jobs.They revolt when outsiders are doing their work.In my opinion sosua beach has unlimited potential.Furthermore if they ever get to opening la playa at night it can become the premier partyspot.
Samana is being defined.Punta Cana is the all inclusive family spot.The north coast is for the adventurer(girls,bars,snorkeling,kite surfing,drinking,socializing).Santo Domingo has (culture,traffic,girls,clubs etc)everything a big city has.Santiago has a middle class suburbian feel with an underside.What is Samana?[/QUOTE]Why isnt the Sosua Beach open at night?
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[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]I'll be in samana next weekend,so i can give a more detailed info from my perspective.
Most airlines bid on slots,POP appears to be full.Eventually international flights will wage a bidding war for AZS as developement increases.
Dominicans want jobs.They revolt when outsiders are doing their work.In my opinion sosua beach has unlimited potential.Furthermore if they ever get to opening la playa at night it can become the premier partyspot.
Samana is being defined.Punta Cana is the all inclusive family spot.The north coast is for the adventurer(girls,bars,snorkeling,kite surfing,drinking,socializing).Santo Domingo has (culture,traffic,girls,clubs etc)everything a big city has.Santiago has a middle class suburbian feel with an underside.What is Samana?[/QUOTE]If you can, try to visit Playa Rincon. One of the nicest beaches I have visited. To get to Playa Rincon you have to turn off the main road and travel on a semi-paved road for about 5 miles. There is a fresh water stream near the beach, where people go swimming. Near the fresh water stream, (near the end of the beach), there are BBQ places, very basic places, fresh Miro is good there.
In Samana some people sell uncooked fish from their homes, you will see small signs near some homes, offering to sell fish. You can buy fish to cook later on.
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[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]Most, if not all of those business owners are squatters anyway. If somebody trespasses on my land that I lawfully own, I'm not going to let them try to intimidate me.[/QUOTE]
And how many of the big landowners obtained their land legitimately? I would guess 80% of the land in the DR has been obtained illegally, sometimes changing hands illegally more than once, much of it within my lifetime.
[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]My 12 gauge Mossberg speaks for itself.[/QUOTE]
Now that's nearer the truth. Might is right in the DR.
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[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]My 12 guage Mossberg speaks for itself.[/QUOTE]
You cant have your finger on the trigger 7x24. The DR is the kind of place where you can be awaken by 2-3 guys hacking you to bits with machetes. All you would have to do is just show em the gun.
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[QUOTE=Jaosousa]Doesn't appear many airlines fly into El Catey airport (AZS, new airport that opened in 2006) from the US.........[/QUOTE]
That may change once the new new highway is finished.
I just don't see Sosua ever being more than what it is. Tourists like hotels with an ocean view, a short walk to the beach, places to go at night. Sosua has none of these for the most part. Yes, there are a few hotels with a ocean view but the vast majority of hotels don't and are puta friendly. Playa Dorado is available for tourist seeking ocean view hotels. Sosua beach is far from being beautiful, just my two pesos.
I stopped in Sosua about a month ago. I had not been in Sosua in almost three years. A whole lot of monger money is being spent in that town and I don't see it changing. I remember years ago Pedro Clisante was slow during the day. I was in Sosua about 5pm and that street was full of putas and money spending dudes. I had a beer next to El Flow and got out of Dodge quick. Sosua is too much of a rat race for me.
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[QUOTE=Charles Pooter]And how many of the big landowners obtained their land legitimately? I would guess 80% of the land in the DR has been obtained illegally, sometimes changing hands illegally more than once, much of it within my lifetime.
[/QUOTE]Getting legal, proper title for a land purchase in the Dom Rep can be a problem. I know of at least one Dominican who bought a piece of property and built a house, only later to discover that the person he bought the land from, was not the true owner.
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[QUOTE=Jaosousa]Getting legal, proper title for a land purchase in the Dom Rep can be a problem. I know of at least one Dominican who bought a piece of property and built a house, only later to discover that the person he bought the land from, was not the true owner.[/QUOTE]
That's why buying condo property is so much better. Any title problems are long gone.
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[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]That's why buying condo property is so much better. Any title problems are long gone.[/QUOTE]
You don't buy land privately. Its done by the state. Period. End of discussion. There is no such thing as a private land transaction in many countries! Especially the Dominican Republic
Fools Get taken advantage of. This is not a guess!
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Can anyone comment on what there is to do in Cabarete if you decided to take a chica there with you for half a day or so (if only just to get her out of the Sosua atmosphere for a while)? I'm not looking to wind surfing or anything like that.
There doesn't seem to be much info on the place in that thread, plus most of the post are from guys who either ended up there and realized there should have went to Sosua instead, or wannabe mongerers (guys who show up with the wife and fam and spend most of their trip trying to figure out how to sneak over to Sosua without getting caught, lol).
If Cabarete is not worth the trip over then please don't hesitate to say so!
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[QUOTE=SavePros321]Can anyone comment on what there is to do in Cabarete if you decided to take a chica there with you for half a day or so (if only just to get her out of the Sosua atmosphere for a while)? I'm not looking to wind surfing or anything like that.
There doesn't seem to be much info on the place in that thread, plus most of the post are from guys who either ended up there and realized there should have went to Sosua instead, or wannabe mongerers (guys who show up with the wife and fam and spend most of their trip trying to figure out how to sneak over to Sosua without getting caught, lol).
If Cabarete is not worth the trip over then please don't hesitate to say so![/QUOTE]Most if not all Dominican chicas really like Cabarete. Jose O'Shays Irish Bar and Restaurant is a pleasant place. Kite Boarding is very popular in Cabarete (the wind is always blowing there). Do a search in youtube for kite boarding cabarete, amazing what some of those guys do. I have seen topless white chicas on the beach in Cabarete. There are several beach side bars and restaurants. The beach is much bigger and much wider than Sosua beach. At night it is a younger crowd, mostly white, 20 year olds who party at the bars on the beach. The disco in the casino was nice. Years ago I visited one place that had pro chicas, it was on the second floor of some building on the main road, not sure if that place still exists. Lots of new Condominium buildings in the last few years in Cabarete. A Senior Member of this board has a business there.