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[QUOTE=Brenno]There is indeed!! I saw it by my eyes.[/QUOTE]
I've seen one like that too, in Pattaya .. the girl seemed to regard it as a normal phrasebook, and asked me about pronounciation from it.
It seemed pretty sensible from the girls' point of view .. bit of a survival guide ..
while back i asked if pattaya was worth going to, got a wide variety of opinions. for anyone out there who like me was wondering about whether to stay in bkk or pattaya. .
i'm in pattaya right now and i will say what someone else said. as soon as you get off the plane, take taxi to pattaya. the sheer number of girls is staggering. there are beer gardens everywhere--and that's not counting the walking street area. you can never go to walking street and still see thousands of working girls. soi 6 mostly has the lower end girls, but still i have seen at least a dozen very pretty girls there, a number in the 8 to 9 range. one for me was a perfect 10. i've gone to the gogos every nite but every nite i wonder why--there's quality just as good on soi 6 and in the beer gardens all over town, and cheaper. soi 6 also generally friendlier than gogo's. but soi 6 also has some real dregs, so you get both top end and low end (you don't see many dregs at the better gogo's).
from soi 6 i've gone with one girl twice who i would have guessed was 15 if she didn't have an id card. got two very good bjs from her. another girl, at least an 8, for most men i think a 10, 19 years old, thin, beautiful. went twice. short time good. long time was a bit of a disaster and i think i was scammed me out of some money, i sent her on her way after one boom boom. another girl, another absolute beauty, tall, thin, healthy 19 year old, short time. very nice, easy to talk to, great smile, but in the bed too clinical for me. but hard to complain given that she was stunning.
some complaints tho. there seems to be a lot of scams around, some of the girls promise more than they are willing to deliver. some you think are going to be dirty, but turn out that they won't let you touch their pussy, won't touch your dick without a condom, and overall can get very clinical. but on soi 6 the total damage can often be as little as 1000 baht (bar fine plus 700 for girl) and i find it hard to get real upset over $35.
also i find lt confusing. it appears that no matter what time you get a girl for lt, what you get is 2 boom boom (1 pm, 1 am). at least this is true for the high end girls, which are the only ones who interest me. and even if a girl seems to say that she will do more than 1/1 boom boom, you will probably only get the 1/1. if you want more, she will start to say she has headache, no feel good, etc etc. suspect that some of the girls who aren't in the 8+ range and have more trouble finding customer might be more open to more boom boom.
at 250 lbs and 47 years old i am getting some rejections, especially for lt (which actually usually i don't want, even tho i ask), especially from the top tier girls, especially from 1-2 of the better gogo clubs. some girls seem to have asian preference i think or at least non-farang preference. so, do not fall in love with any girl until you know she will go with you.
bkk i found it hard to find very pretty girls (rainbow 4 was exception), although a few rep001tered about. soi cowboy had 1-2 clubs with a number of quite pretty girls. pattaya has far more girls in the 8+ range--but you do have to look, and/or go from gogo to gogo until you find what you want.
thanks to all posters for their advice and education on bkk and pattaya.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Well, I wouldn't say OLD, but fear not, when I'll reach you guys age, I'm sure I'll develop a craving for nice and fresh teenagers :D
right, well that's a tough one to answer LOL
do you understand what small tits are for? if yes, then big tits are the same (but bigger) ;)[/QUOTE]
Not teenagers !! I prefer girls only 20 years younger than me!
As for tits, I go for the nice curve of a non-sagging natural shape (size doesn't matter as long as not non-existant) and I like the shimmer and bounce of high firm but natural ones.
If they are wider than the girls body (with arms raised), that is a bonus for me. I don't really like the look where bras push the tits together making a closed crack between. Braless is a better look for me. I like dark medium sized nipples.
For bottoms, I also like high full cheeks, but again with good separation. Its all about the gap that is real sexy for me.
So upper thighs should not bang together, bottom cheeks should have a little gap (you know where), and even tits should have some gap.
Waist to thigh width ratio should be in range .65 to .75
You see, I know exactly what I want. And occasionally meet some perfect specimens. But not often.
[QUOTE=Satrai2000]Most people on our planet are primarily attracted to "their own kind", and this holds for Thai as well.
I spent quite a few years in the Netherlands and Germany. The local men in general. Collegues and friends. Were primarily interested in blond and blue-eyed women. Not that brunettes were considered ugly, but "being beautiful" always equated to "being blond".
I suppose the caucasian members on this forum consider Thai women as attractive or "Ok" at least. Despite this I do wonder which of these members deep in their heart think that blonde and blue-eyed women are still nr. 1.[/QUOTE]Are most German & Netherlands men and women blonde haired?
I prefer blonde or red hair, but in Canada most women do not have that.
In Thailand that is even more the case, yet I still find it easy to find ladies to my liking in that regard.
Eye colour is relatively a non issue for me. As a caucasian with blue eyes, I cum from a cuntry where blue is probably not the most common colour.
IMO Asian women have as beautiful eyes as any others in the world. But, then, the Canuck city I live in is nicknamed Hongcouver.
Skin colour was not mentioned, so I will not comment on that.
[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Everyone will be at Midnight now .[/QUOTE]
Well feeling that 'Duty Calls' I dropped the GF off at the Airport and went for a look.
Its true, things have changed, lots of new good looking 50:50s there. Plenty of barely 18s too !! Talking to the girls it would seem average age is around 20 yrs old and most say they have been in BKK about 2 weeks to a month :)
The 'show' is good, you get to see what you are buying, in the flesh - all bare bar a tiny see thru mesh skirt, not many 'spunk bellies' on show either.
In order to not disappoint - I came away with a pair of em, two of the tiniest sub 40 Kg babes ever. The BF was 700 and each girl wanted 2K ST and 4K LT, which was soon negotiated downwards to a very reasonable (IMHO) 4K LT for both together. The fun lasted until I left for the Airport next day at 1030. Didnt pay any Joiner Fee, but also I couldnt swing 3 inclusive breakfasts on my Hotel so had to pay 250 Baht extra for the 3rd one !!! It was worth it to see the faces of the 'older guys' who thought they had bagged a good one the night before, and even better when I told one guy that my girls had skipped school that morning.
Possibly the best girls on Cowboy, well at least for the next month or so.
Cheers, FF
[QUOTE=Satrai2000]Most people on our planet are primarily attracted to "their own kind", and this holds for Thai as well.
I spent quite a few years in the Netherlands and Germany. The local men in general. Collegues and friends. Were primarily interested in blond and blue-eyed women. Not that brunettes were considered ugly, but "being beautiful" always equated to "being blond".
I suppose the caucasian members on this forum consider Thai women as attractive or "Ok" at least. Despite this I do wonder which of these members deep in their heart think that blonde and blue-eyed women are still nr. 1.[/QUOTE]
In Ireland all the girls are blonde and only the gay guys are blonde. I exaggerate only slightly.
So many blondes are not really that blonde.
Who cares, blonde or brunette? Beauty is definitely not about hair colour or big tits.
I am not attracted to my own kind Australian women.
Foreigners only.
On the other hand I have a long face (rather than round) and tend to be attrcated to girls with long face too.
I have big nose but am attracted to girls with cute little nose.
I can't really find any pattern here.
[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]negotiated downwards to a very reasonable (IMHO) 4K LT for both together.[/QUOTE]
Now THAT my friend, is a good deal! bravo! and since they also performed to your liking, kudos to you. (thumbs up).
It looks like the quality of the bars in Cowboy is getting better. Could it be that NANA girls migrate because SC seems to be much more popular these days?
By the way, P4P is still hurting, not enough customers to feed the hungry single mother's babies.
Well done, 2K per girl Long Time is the correct amount to pay, and you said, you had a great time.
I do not see why people think you get any less for negotiating, the standard rates are the standard rates and they are selling sex.
Some people think you only get a good time by paying way over the top. They need to get with it, just like the shirts and pants on the side of the road, you negotiate down if they want too much, and no....they do not swap the goods for poor quality ones.
2K LT and good performance is the standard going rate, and I had 3 very good ones last week.
Needs to be kept being said though :
500 baht is a HJ at upmarket oily.
1000 baht covers a HJ/BJ combination at an oily
1500 baht covers a HJ/BJ/FS combination at an oily.
1000 baht to 1500 baht will cover any short time.
2000 baht is long time covered.
If performance is bad, you mark the price down. If performance is good, you pay the standard rates and if performance was out of this world good, then you may wish to pay a little more for the extra effort they put in.
[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]In order to not disappoint - I came away with a pair of em, two of the tiniest sub 40 Kg babes ever. The BF was 700 and each girl wanted 2K ST and 4K LT, which was soon negotiated downwards to a very reasonable (IMHO) 4K LT for both together. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Not teenagers !! I prefer girls only 20 years younger than me!
As for tits, I go for the nice curve of a non-sagging natural shape (size doesn't matter as long as not non-existant) and I like the shimmer and bounce of high firm but natural ones.
If they are wider than the girls body (with arms raised), that is a bonus for me. I don't really like the look where bras push the tits together making a closed crack between. Braless is a better look for me. I like dark medium sized nipples.
For bottoms, I also like high full cheeks, but again with good separation. Its all about the gap that is real sexy for me.
So upper thighs should not bang together, bottom cheeks should have a little gap (you know where), and even tits should have some gap.
Waist to thigh width ratio should be in range .65 to .75
You see, I know exactly what I want. And occasionally meet some perfect specimens. But not often.[/QUOTE]
Must say I share your taste. Especially the little bottom cheek gap, a small detail but so nice. Then for me, I can add I like a little darker skin too. And about age, I'd say from 25 yrs and up, its a little more then 20 yrs younger than me, but OK. Nearly 30 yrs.. hard to admit even to your self...
[QUOTE=Soap Fan]I have a long face (rather than round) and tend to be attrcated to girls with long face too.
I have big nose but am attracted to girls with cute little nose.
I can't really find any pattern here.[/QUOTE]
Thank god for that!
If we were all attracted to the things we have, you think we'd be attracted by a Big dick? LOL
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Now THAT my friend, is a good deal! bravo! and since they also performed to your liking, kudos to you. (thumbs up)..[/QUOTE]
Well it wasnt bad, however taking into account the Food/Drinks and Taxi Fare, plus the 'extra' breakfast - total spend was 7K +
Still a bargain even in these 'poor' times, but it would have been even better if the girls had 'played together' too!
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]It looks like the quality of the bars in Cowboy is getting better. Could it be that NANA girls migrate because SC seems to be much more popular these days?.[/QUOTE]
I agree, and having heard that Nana was seemingly even further down the hill than it was before, I opted for a recce of Cowboy. I actually flew home with a guy who claimed to be in Bar Syndicate with quite a few well known places in Cowboy on his books. He reckoned although takings were down, business was still quite good and lucrative enough for him to afford Business Class Flights from London every 2 or 3 months. He seemed happy enough with the new restaurant they just opened too - Called The Old Vic, near to 'Old Dutch' end of Cowboy, but not so sure exactly where.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]By the way, P4P is still hurting, not enough customers to feed the hungry single mother's babies.[/QUOTE]
I dont go for the single mums, hence my liking for the 'less dressed' go-gos where one can hopefully spot a 'spunk belly' and look the other way.
Cheers, FF
[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]
I dont go for the single mums, hence my liking for the 'less dressed' go-gos where one can hopefully spot a 'spunk belly' and look the other way.
Cheers, FF[/QUOTE]
I'm glad you explained. Had no idea what a spunk belly was. I actually like single mothers, but not exclusively. They are much less likely to have a Thai BF sponging off them as they simply can't afford it. May still have a Thai brother (real one) attempting to sponge though.
Single mothers are also less likely to have a Thai sugar daddy, as Thai men also don't really go for mothers that much.
Some girls pussies are a bit too tight for me, but less likely with "mothers" ;) LOL
[QUOTE=Brenno]There is indeed!! I saw it by my eyes. It is sold hand to hand from the resellers of junk stuff you can see around Nana all time long. They try to sell dumb articles to men, and the "Bar girl guide" to the girls. You've never seen it because you are not a girl then they will not offer you. They keep it hidden, instead.
A girl I get in touch with, had in her bag. She used once to find an english expression, then I saw it and ask her what was about. She gave it to me and I read it here and there.
Now I know why it is kept very well hidden. It is very offensive and...
if you had one copy you could understand all the scam tecniques the girls use to squeeze money out of customers.
And some of those bad behavior you comment, are trained bye that guide, I saw them. "How to tease bj to get more money" and so....[/QUOTE]Here it is.
It sells very good. 2nd edition
[QUOTE=Satrai2000]Most people on our planet are primarily attracted to "their own kind", and this holds for Thai as well.
I spent quite a few years in the Netherlands and Germany. The local men in general. Collegues and friends. Were primarily interested in blond and blue-eyed women. Not that brunettes were considered ugly, but "being beautiful" always equated to "being blond".
I suppose the caucasian members on this forum consider Thai women as attractive or "Ok" at least. Despite this I do wonder which of these members deep in their heart think that blonde and blue-eyed women are still nr. 1.[/QUOTE]
I don't think that most people are primarily attracted to their own kind. I rather would guess that most people are attracted to what is seldom, eg. what has a high status.
The mayority of Indians and Arabs pay by far higher prices for white chicks, than for Asian or black ones. That might be because they have a higher status.
I like for example Arab girls, with black hair, wide hips and small waists. Other men go more for Asian girls, mostly those who like the petit type more than the feminine type.
For each his own.
[QUOTE=Soap Fan]In Ireland all the girls are blonde and only the gay guys are blonde. I exaggerate only slightly.
So many blondes are not really that blonde.
Who cares, blonde or brunette? Beauty is definitely not about hair colour or big tits.
.[/QUOTE]
In my experience a large number of Irish girls are redheads - and that wasn't just their heads!
And as for beauty, hair (or lack of it), it's colour and their tits (size dependent on ones preferences) are all important ingredients.