Madagascar

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2839848]Just as a side note there has been an influx of Mada based Cam girls that poped up recently on some CAM girl websites that I have been chatting with an say they are willing to meet up. They also for the most part speak English which is interesting and kind of contrary to the information here. I have also tried afrointroductions and most of the malagasy women spoke SOME English. I have to think that since the more experienced mongers in Madagascar right now speak french or some malagasy, they really do not have a solid grasp over just how many "college" girls are now fluent in English. As my main demographic are "hot" college girls. These girls usually are educated and most of the mada based cam girls that have shown up are also going to university. So it seams like the university going population does infact speak English. There is an "English" based monger that is opening up some AirBnBs in nosybe and he also communicates in English with the locals. "Ministre de l'ducation Nationale et de l'Enseignement Technique et Professionnel " has made English free and compulsory for 6-11 year olds from what in can tell this started in or around 2013. So by the early 2030's we should see a major shift in language in Madagascar imo. These are the Early days for English mongering in this country. They seem to be gearing up to welcoming the English speaking community with their push for English fluency. Estimated English uptake is about 9-10% so that's more than 3 million malagasy English speakers. The one thing you can be certain of the "international" world over is change.

[URL]https://mg.usembassy.gov/u-s-embassy-improves-the-learning-environment-in-university-of-antananarivo-english-classrooms/[/URL][/QUOTE]Afrointroduction, Web cam sites, AirBnB in Nosy Be, higher education in Mada: you have no clue abut this country!

There exists French influence since 1896. The target of smart college girls is certainly not the US but to work in France. Yes, some people in the tourism industry speak english. But more do speak italian. And many do speak Malgache only. Because they have no access to a school at all.

I give you a hint: put your dating profile with your hometown on the website Vidamora (full of Mada girls). I challenge you that you won't get "likes" due to your country and in addition you won't be able to contact most of the girls because of that country of residence: girls can select the country from where they like to find a date.

Get real. Go there, watch the line of Chinese warehouses, hotels, construction sides and factories once you drive into Tana from the airport. Or look at one of the biggest hotel in NosyBe: Chinese owned. Mauritius (Vanille, garments), China, the Netherlands and France are main investors in the country. US plays a very minor role.

Please don't make assumptions here without facts.

From my last trip I would say your assumptions about English are overblown. The vast majority can't.

Even afford school let alone university. I met a girl in Diego. Second year law student. Spoke great french. Maybe 5 words of English. So much for the college girls!

They do not speak Chinese either, so what? There are many ways to overcome the language barrier with ease as Pokeris demonstrated.

If any guy does not fit in, he will realize that soon enough with various obstacles confronted.

Again some of the generalized nasty assumptions of a few forum members about the anglo- americans peopel a wrong in the first place.

Think about it, by the way be reminded: you are guests only too and it puts your country of origin in a rather poor light again.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2839984]
...Yes, some people in the tourism industry speak english....

...I give you a hint: put your dating profile with your hometown on the website Vidamora (full of Mada girls). I challenge you that you won't get "likes" due to your country and in addition you won't be able to contact most of the girls because of that country of residence: girls can select the country from where they like to find a date....

...Please don't make assumptions here without facts....[/QUOTE]An assumption is something you make without facts. "as·sump·tion: a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof. " It is literally what that means. To make an assumption based on facts wouldn't be an assumption. I notice that the French tend to say that like to not make assumptions (without facts) I digress but that is the reason why I bother to research this at all is to go in with a better realistic understanding of what to expect when boots hit the ground.

Thank you actually for the tip I did sign up for Vidamora and have come across, you may have ment it as a deterrent but more than a few English speaking Malagasy women. Like I said since French speakers lead with French that is not really a test of how prevalent English is. I did see some restrictions on messaging some of the girls but it mostly was for only Madagascar. I just think that these girls don't know that it is possible to date an American guy so its not something they focus on as this becomes more of a reality their expectations will change. I honestly have had better luck on facebook / instagram / tiktok than Vidamora finding English speaking Malagasy women.

On the topic of camgirls Johntron from AsianSexDiary AND I have had great success having sex with Camgirls in other countries, propositioning camgirls is actually a pretty easy way to meet no nonsense girls that are just in it for money.

I never used a dating-platform at home for the very same reason, I am very social, easy talking to any girls. To use one in Afrika is very likely to bee fatal. Why ist that?

I did take a look at it. My assessment:

Most of the so called girls are old mutton, do you fancy that?

The attractive jung ones are pros likely to bee a dangerous lady snakes.

Fatal if your Handicap limits you to the platform in the first place where you get in touch to the girls you likely can not handle in konsequent.

Total NO GO to me! But I like to read the honest failure of the practice here in the Forum.

I like your explanation of assumption.

You do exactly the same assumption about the "French mongers" , without knowing the facts about them.

By exactly the same self experienced of similar circumstances you are telling, a experienced Mada monger knows quite the outcome based on the known " the facts " of what your doing on the ground in Mada.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2840160]
You do exactly the same assumption about the "French mongers" , without knowing the facts about them.
[/QUOTE]This is true and I do make some assumptions as it were however they (the french mongers) assume that women will not be interested in Americans, I do not believe this to be true. Saying that a lack of Madagascar culture puts Americans at some kind of disadvantage when offering money for sex is kind of questionable. I could see this happening if no money was being exchanged but not in the case of paid sex. I am not looking to find a wife or a girlfriend. So I am not really interested in learning about Madagascar, understanding it or their culture for that matter this is really a nonstarter. All I am after is sex with women I find attractive and Malagasy women have sparked my interest.

The beauty of offering women money for sex is that it is an equalizer which is in the spirit of this forum. But I will explain why social media is a valid way to find women. I offer women bounties if they will introduce me to women they know who are in need of a "sponsor". So while the women who put themselves on these dating sites are "old mutton" like you put it their friends are "prime rib". I use these women as agents more than for just the women themselves. I will admit that this is a new country for me but this method has served me well. This method also ensures I am speaking to a women who understands English and the need to understand Madagascar culture also is nullified.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2840208]...... and the need to understand Madagascar culture also is nullified.[/QUOTE]That says all. The forum's rule do restrict me to comment.

Bonne chance. Tu vas te faire plumer.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2840086]
If any guy does not fit in, he will realize that soon enough with various obstacles confronted.
[/QUOTE]Do you mind elaborating on this? Is it race-specific? What kind of obstacles can one face? Any input is greatly appreciated.

First of all the professional girls like the cash and it does not matter what currency, that's what you are manly going for.

Many of the ordinary have the dream to get a French or a Belgian guy and move to Europe where People speak French. Swiss manly French part, Germans, and Austrians also accepted. To send money home.

Then the acceptance drops dramatically.

The real Mada mongers only, are basically scared you change the Mada- to the Pattaya-system with your attitude of what they assume you have. So the try hard to piss you off.

Actually they try to piss off everybody, to have the place for them self unchanged as it was. The Madagascar I love by.

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2840259]Do you mind elaborating on this? Is it race-specific? What kind of obstacles can one face? Any input is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Things like: Crime, absence of law and order in many regions, food poisoning, sanitary conditions, confrontation with dramatic poverty, general miss-comfort, power cuts, absence of real health infrastructure, etc.

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2840259]Do you mind elaborating on this? Is it race-specific? What kind of obstacles can one face? Any input is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I think he means culture shock.

Try to date a conservative and religious arab girl as a Westerner, very hard, almost impossible.

I think it comes down on how open minded the society in the country is but the differences are there nevertheless.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2840230]
Bonne chance. Tu vas te faire plumer.[/QUOTE]Is this a threat? I really don't want to believe these are threats but they sound like they are. Please elaborate.

Some very odd choices on this section of the international "sex" guide (the people who take the time to visit these boards are doing so as allies) this kind of prejudice or racism is this just with the handful of men here or is this really that hostile in Madagascar for "Americans"? Two English speaking mongers I know of JhonTron made a series of videos a few years back and "PASSIVE NOMADS" on youtube don't seem to run into nor mention this raging prejudice and / or racism people here seem to think Americans will run into. JhonTron has been in some pretty rough places but did not make mention any of this hostility in this reports.

[QUOTE=Tinte;2840260]First of all the professional girls like the cash and it does not matter what currency, that's what you are manly going for.
[/QUOTE]The fact that we come here for knowledge and advice shows that we are at least trying to be considerate.

I appreciate your explanation because it is more what I thought I would expect from mada. I was never under the impression that I would land in mada as an expert, so whatever I learn here is invaluable. Thank you for taking the time to explain.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2840322]Is this a threat? I really don't want to believe these are threats but they sound like they are. Please elaborate.

Some very odd choices on this section of the international "sex" guide (the people who take the time to visit these boards are doing so as allies) this kind of prejudice or racism is this just with the handful of men here or is this really that hostile in Madagascar for "Americans"? Two English speaking mongers I know of JhonTron made a series of videos a few years back and "PASSIVE NOMADS" on youtube don't seem to run into nor mention this raging prejudice and / or racism people here seem to think Americans will run into. JhonTron has been in some pretty rough places but did not make mention any of this hostility in this reports.[/QUOTE]Agree with you here. We come here seeking advice or some input. Some folks have been kind enough and I truly appreciate it. But surprised by some of the hostility and downright racist attitude by some folks. If they are not willing to help that's fine, but this kind of behaviour is really uncalled for.