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[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1240052]I am not sure what you mean by "two timing" or "3-timing". Are you suggesting that she shouldn't be able to chat to 2 or 5 or 10 other guys, but it is OK for you to have a wide variety of numbers in your directory.[/QUOTE]Well, me, having dipped my head deep in Phil, and having waded in till my chest level, I don't get stressed when that happens to me. Heck, one of the girl shacking up with me, sent me a text from her 'other' Sim card, asking if we can meet up, when she was lying next to me. And having screwed me and hadn't even cleaned up her drips. Oh, well, it keeps me entertained though. Haha.

My advice was for those 'newbies' and those who are 'in LOVE'. Not for me to fret over it. I take the multi-sim thing as one of the many quirks of dealing with pinays. (oh, my current gf told me that the word Pinay doesn't exist. It had been just coined as a female of 'pinoy'.)

[QUOTE]The usual "Oh you forget me already" comment follows when I don't recognise the number. How TF am I supposed to know hehe? They get a bit sheepish when I challenge them on it.[/QUOTE]Oh, that happens when the girls put your name differently under different sim cards, and then get you mixed up wih somebody else LOL or the new SIM doesn't have your contact, but the phone has your text minus the name.

Of course, keeps the fun going though.

I just spent a fairly dissapointing 10 days in Manila and Cebu. Productive photo-recon work was done on a new hotel in Cebu near Ayala Center, and I will post that when I get home.

I would have done better had I worked on the ladies online harder in the last week, but I was actually working, and working in the PI as well, and so the time managing PI contacts suffered.

I did get good results sending msgs to girls that were "online now" in Tagged. I managed to insult some truly "good" girls, and others were clearly semi and not-so-semi pro. One encounter with a girl who looked nice in the pics was like: Me: Well if I like you I will want to bring you back to my hotel. Her: Ah well thats ok, but if there is going to be sex, I need some help with my studies. Me: Hmm I see, and how much help do you need? Her: I need 1, 500 for my yada yada. Me: well I was thinking more like 500+ taxi money, but if you can provide special service (anal sex and or come back again) , I suppose I could help that much. Her: (well she did not go for that.) haha oh well! Too mercenary for me anyway.

Note to self (A note to Myself that I share with you). After observing other Western men in the territory, I resolve to:
- Get my weight back under 180lbs.
- Don't be too tall. If I were too tall, I would court E European girls.
- Wear a shirt and trousers, and shoes, a jacket sometimes in the evening. Avoid looking like a pensoner.
- Walk upright, back straight, head erect, eyes bright, mouth closed for Gods sake. Affecting a slightly bemused look on my face. More like Rodger Moore and less like Gandalf.
- Maintain an appearance that I am confident and enjoying myself.
- Keep to a moderate pace, not shuffling, and not rushing about.
- Try not to sweat so much.

[QUOTE=Econo Tech;1240320]Heck, one of the girl shacking up with me, sent me a text from her 'other' Sim card, asking if we can meet up, when she was lying next to me. And having screwed me and hadn't even cleaned up her drips. Oh, well, it keeps me entertained though. Haha.[/QUOTE]Hahaha cracking me up here. Welcome to FILIPINES!

Let me know if there's a better place to post this. I'm hoping there maybe some knowledgable members here who can shed some light on this. My situation is as follows: I've started two small businesses in PH with pinays and so far have not been ripped-off. To clarify I should say I've made two personal loans to my two partners and have no legal ownership in the businesses which is the way I required it. But our signed loan agreement specifies a specific business that provides enough return for both of us to make good coin and assure she has enough cash-flow to make payments back to me or reinvest my profit as required. I recently had a payment coming from one of my partners via WU for $1350 and she was only able to send $450 because of restrictions WU has on funds entering and leaving the State I reside. If I send more than $450 I have to provide passport and fill out a pile of paperwork (must have to do with the drug cartels and money laundering). She sent the balance owed to my business bank account here and I paid $15 to receive it (and the bank gets $40 for sending out international funds). I would be happy to set up an account in PH since my partners could make direct deposits and it should be less expensive all around so long as foreigners don't end up having to pay expensive monthly banking fees for the privilege of a savings account when not residing in PH. Before I realized how expensive my bank xfer fees were I was planning to stop using WU and report my gain as income as part of my USA based business. Now I'm thinking I can stay under the radar and let my profit accumulate in a PH bank and use those funds for hotel and food etc when I visit PH and when eventually retire there. Any such thing as a free savings account in PH? I have emailed BDO Unibank with questions about fees and whether they offer online banking. Any and all helpful comments are welcome.

While on the topic of SIm cards and mobiles I thought I'd share a couple of iPhone4 tips.

When I was with one lady I received a txt while I was in the bathroom. Consequently the phone clinks onto the screen pops the full text of the message and the callers name. Fortunately the lady was asleep but it did et me thinking and looking through the iPhone options.

Now, when I am with a lady or at work I want to manage the risk of people seeing the messages: I change the following options:

For general security.

I'll assume everyone has at least a Unlock PIN code on their screen.

Also, put a PIN code on your SIM in the event it is lost or stolen.

For pinay security.

Settings Sounds Set "Text Tone" to None (means there won't be an audio notification of a new message. Answer at a time that suits you.

Settings Notifications Messages

Alert Style. Set to None, means you have to go into Messages to see messages.

Show Preview. Set to Off, so that the message doesn't appear on the screen when unlocked.

View in Lock Screen. Set to Off, so that no details will appear on the screen when the phone is locked.

You might like to also set these for "calls" as well. Consider what Pinay1 will say when she sees that you had missed calls from "Pinay2-swallows","Pinay3-great tits" and two missed calls from "Pinay8-ms anal"

Just my experience.

AJ

[QUOTE=Jambo; 1242237]. .

SNIP.

. After observing other Western men in the territory, I resolve to:

- Don't be too tall. If I were too tall, I would court E European girls.

- Walk upright, back straight, head erect, eyes bright, mouth closed for Gods sake. Affecting a slightly bemused look on my face. More like Rodger Moore and less like Gandalf. .[/QUOTE]A few interesting observations Jambo (and obviously written with tongue planted firmly in cheek)

As someone who is 188cm, I find it difficult to follow your suggestion to both walk upright but not be too tall.

I find the height thing to be an advantage when interracting on DIA.

It gives me an opportunity to see if she has a makulit (naughty) streak.

When a woman says "You are soo tall; me I am only 5ft (or whatever)" I can trot out the corny line "Oh well it's OK but we are the same height when we are lying down"

Usually I get the "hehehe you are naughty guy" response which gets the texting onto a new level.

Of course, if there is any adverse reaction to my naughty suggestion, the chat is greatly shortened.

[QUOTE=Jambo;1242237]- Don't be too tall. If I were too tall, I would court E European girls.[/QUOTE]I am 6'3" (190cm) no pina has ever said I am too tall. I still get rejected by korean fuckers but those girls are not worth the time.

I still find it strange all these guys coming to cebu just to met internet girls then complain they did not score, learn a big lesson gay men are most of the DIA contacts, they ask you to come here and say BS so that you will send money, so if you visit Cebu for less than 1 month stick to the bars.

Stop using internet it now the biggest scam, next time you come here only use the net in the internet cafe see how many times a guy sits down next to you and logs into dia etc you may even find her is you chat mate, I take it you love chatting sex to boys.

[QUOTE=Jambo; 1242237]Note to self (A note to Myself that I share with you). After observing other Western men in the territory, I resolve to:

- Get my weight back under 180lbs.

- Wear a shirt and trousers, and shoes, a jacket sometimes in the evening. Avoid looking like a pensoner.[/QUOTE]A while back I got to visit St. Maarten. There's a nude beach (Orient Beach). One might conjer up images of bathing beauties. But the crowded beach was filled with a mix of clothed and nude folk. There was not a single naked person worth looking at. See the picture below (that's a US congressman, vacationing in the caribbean). The naked people on the beach were all 50+, and as you can guess, overweight. Several dudes in their 60's were playing naked 2 vs 2 volleyball. In the same vein, previously I posted about walking thru Ayala mall in Cebu. On the second floor are two coffee shops right next to each other (I think one is Bo's) , and within the two shops there was a gathering of similar older white gents (maybe a dozen between the two shops) , some with their pina gf, all 60+, all overweight. They were having breakfast / lunch, chatting each other, or their gf. They also dressed like the guy in the pic below: shorts, long t-shirts or hawaiian beach shirts (not a single tucked shirt) , and flipflops. I have a lifelong resolve to look:

[QUOTE=Jambo; 1242237]- More like Roger Moore and less like Gandalf.[/QUOTE]

Opinion, fact or just outrageous exagerration? I had three of these Internet gals in my bed within six hours of meeting. And they all were female. This was in a two week period. I met two others that didn't work out, but that was me cutting them loose, not the other way around. Maybe the Frenzy is trying to keep all the good ones for himself?

And how do you know the K girls aren't worth it if you've never scored with them?

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1242357]I am 6'3" (190cm) no pina has ever said I am too tall. I still get rejected by korean fuckers but those girls are not worth the time.

I still find it strange all these guys coming to cebu just to met internet girls then complain they did not score, learn a big lesson gay men are most of the DIA contacts, they ask you to come here and say BS so that you will send money, so if you visit Cebu for less than 1 month stick to the bars.

Stop using internet it now the biggest scam, next time you come here only use the net in the internet cafe see how many times a guy sits down next to you and logs into dia etc you may even find her is you chat mate, I take it you love chatting sex to boys.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1242327]When a woman says "You are soo tall; me I am only 5ft (or whatever)" I can trot out the corny line "Oh well it's OK but we are the same height when we are lying down"[/QUOTE]And you also get to put her to the test: "Would you like to date a tall boy? Or perhaps you could not handle his big toy?"

I have noticed that this line will both take her one step closer to action in her mind, and make her understand that she is swimming is a sea filled of female fish and that whilst you might play the dating game for amusement and her imaginary shame reduction, the reality is that she needs to prove herself worthy of lifting your kilt, and not only the other way around as we have been mislead to believe for so many years living in the west. I treat the ladies like ladies and that includes that they need to know their place amongst all available options. I do not mean arrogance but rather a sense of gender equality in the dating game.

I do not want to come across as I am lecturing all the old foxes here, but IMHO I think the biggest turn on for a woman is to see a man that is happy with himself and that are not going for the panties in the first two minutes, Hawaii shirt or not. If you signal that you "know your value", she will want a piece of that cake. I am talking "normal" girls now and not P4P girls that do their selection on different parameters. Sometimes we men can be extremely single minded and believe we must thrust forward to the bed time moment. We are drooling and dripping in our shorts, and confuse the fact that we do not give a shit about the fore play with that fact that it is a deal breaker for any girl that is looking for more than just fast cash. We "impress" and push, when we in fact know that the best sales technique is to go slow and take one step back after every two steps forward. Let her get used to the new position in her head. Trust is familiarity, even when it comes to the idea of having a 100 kilo reject pumping her teenage pussy for hours. Two step forward and then one step back, gents. Impressive clothes might make us feel more self confident and kick up our shares during the initial seconds of talking to the babe, but after that we are naked and need to relay on our mental performance during the rest of the pick up.

Easy does it, not the shorts or the weight.

Barba

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1242357]. .

Stop using internet it now the biggest scam, next time you come here only use the net in the internet cafe see how many times a guy sits down next to you and logs into dia etc you may even find her is you chat mate, I take it you love chatting sex to boys.[/QUOTE]You are much too broad-brushed in your condemnation of the internet Frenzy.

I agree it CAN be used to scam; I agree that you MIGHT end up chatting to a boy who wants to be a girl; I also know that many girls say things in chat about what they will do and they will not follow up with when they meet in person.

However, speaking personally and on behalf of several close friends who live here, we have had amazing success rates using chat sites (whether free or not) in meeting a wide variety of women.

The internet has pitfalls sure, but so do bars and barfines and freelance meetings etc. If a guy has half a brain and uses fairly simple sieving or filtering techniques then he greatly reduces the likelihood of being scammed.

All options to meet women have their own particular foibles. Frenzy warns about one potential internet pitfall but that is not enough to make anyone abandon the internet entirely as a means of fishing.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1242430]You are much too broad-brushed in your condemnation of the internet Frenzy.

I agree it CAN be used to scam; I agree that you MIGHT end up chatting to a boy who wants to be a girl; I also know that many girls say things in chat about what they will do and they will not follow up with when they meet in person.

However, speaking personally and on behalf of several close friends who live here, we have had amazing success rates using chat sites (whether free or not) in meeting a wide variety of women.

The internet has pitfalls sure, but so do bars and barfines and freelance meetings etc. If a guy has half a brain and uses fairly simple sieving or filtering techniques then he greatly reduces the likelihood of being scammed.

All options to meet women have their own particular foibles. Frenzy warns about one potential internet pitfall but that is not enough to make anyone abandon the internet entirely as a means of fishing.[/QUOTE]That is exactly my point it works for those who spend time here, not the guys who visit short time, it just there is a increase of guys coming to Cebu posting that the place suxs, they do not visit bars and just get messed around with lady boys and girls just wanting cash. I know you and more experienced guys are doing ok, and I do not expect any one to follow my advice, but hope the guys who do visit here and bomb out relise it not the place but their expectations from the lies they get from the scammers on the dating sites.

Hey I like a bit of free entertainment, but it going to far when guys fly here only to find out 80% of the girls do not exist, and then they missed out on the bars

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1242438]That is exactly my point it works for those who spend time here, not the guys who visit short time, it just there is a increase of guys coming to Cebu posting that the place suxs, they do not visit bars and just get messed around with lady boys and girls just wanting cash.[/QUOTE]I think it has less to do with long or short-term residents, and probably more to do with the average punter who comes here with the absurd notion that young women will fall at their flip-flopped feet. I'm surely not an expert on Cebu-a place to which I go only twice or so a year-but it can't be that much different than Davao, and most of the guys I see wandering around lost and bewildered here couldn't attract iron filings with a magnet. Have these guys abjured mirrors forever? Frenzy is right about having unrealistic expectations; to with, walking around in unpressed shorts, wrinkled tee shirts and flip flops is not a great recipe for success. Convincing yourself that something magical happened during the plane ride and you are now god's gift to the female gender is not only delusional, but pathetic. Clean up. Develop something more clever than "hey baby" as an opening line, and you might find that success is just around the corner.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1242443]I think it has less to do with long or short-term residents, and probably more to do with the average punter who comes here with the absurd notion that young women will fall at their flip-flopped feet. Have these guys abjured mirrors forever? Frenzy is right about having unrealistic expectations; to with, walking around in unpressed shorts, wrinkled tee shirts and flip flops is not a great recipe for success. Clean up. Develop something more clever than "hey baby" as an opening line, and you might find that success is just around the corner.

GE[/QUOTE]Could not have said it better myself.

Will respectfully disagree with Frenzy and possibly RK here just a bit, regarding the expat regular and the 2-week visiting warrior. Of the dozen or so white kano I saw in the coffee shops on the second floor (having coffee, chatting together, reading the paper) , the handful of other kano walking the mall at 11:30am, and the three kano I saw sitting in the hallway at the indoor / outdoor restaurant just inside the entrance, I'd say most or all are expats, not weekend warriors. I saw the same group of guys in those upstairs coffee shops more than one day in my one-week visit; hence I'd say they are regulars. With the exception of myself, all white foreigner in Ayala were 60+, all were overweight, all were wearing flip-flops, all were wearing shorts (oh! Those milk-white, vericose-veined legs!) , and only one had tucked his shirt tucked in. Remember Ron Howard movie,"Cocoon", with Wilford Brimley heading to the swimming pool in shorts, untucked hawaiian shirt, and flipflops? Ya, that's who was in those coffee shops. Its a given that at least half those guys are local expats. Nothing says,"I'm-going-to-ignore-everything-good-my-mama-taught-me-and-dress-poorly-here-like-I-would-never-dress-at-home-and-disrespect-your-culture" like flip-flops away from the beach. Well, possibly the shirt not tucked in to hide the beer belly. So, what is it among us, that makes us the ones not to clean up? Why can't we wear sandals (not flipflops)? Why is it we can't seem to tuck our shirts in? Why is it we don't seem to own any long pants (blue jeans would be fine)? Frenzy's right: we shoot ourselves in the foot.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1242503]Why is it we can't seem to tuck our shirts in?[/QUOTE]Because if one is somewhat overweight, it looks better to leave the shirt out.