Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

[QUOTE=TheApprentice7;2223370]Truly sad. I am actually at the point where I want to separate from the wife (have been unhappy in marriage for awhile but this actually prompted me to seriously consider splitting from wife), in hopes of a brighter future with hotter sexier chick like her or someone similar (if this doesn't work out).
rl.[/QUOTE]Here in the Forum I have written about a Surigao chick that almost had me believing the same future. Certainly sexier but as time goes on the problems and baggage start to appear.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2223475]Here in the Forum I have written about a Surigao chick that almost had me believing the same future. Certainly sexier but as time goes on the problems and baggage start to appear.[/QUOTE]LOL. And as soon as he separates, them broads will be nowhere to be found. He will be left with his dick in his hand. When I was in the Navy I used to wear a wedding ring to pick up chicks. Chicks are no different than dudes. Always want what they can't have. 1 million hookers in Angeles and someone posts about wanting to fuck the hotel clerk. If the clerk was one of the hookers in one of the bars, they would not have given her a second look.

Same as when you break up with your wife, they are not going to give you a second look. LOL. Then when you get finished paying child support and shit you won't have time or money to run over to P. I. to see Miss New Pussy. You don't pay someone to take your farm and think you can go live at the carnival. You go ride all the rides and have fun, then take your ass back to the farm until the next time that you can visit the carnival.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2223451]I have gone through at least 50 new non-paid chicks in the past year and I am not singing love songs. ][/QUOTE]That's what I go through in a whole year, well maybe 10 more but I've slowed down quite a bit at 62. And I sing love songs with my guitar to most all of them but there is no hint of commitment despite the music. Chris Rock is so funny! "Men don't settle down, they surrender"! So true! Thanks for the clip, E!

[QUOTE=TheApprentice7;2223370]Thanks for this BD. I just wanted to clarify I have seen her a few times back in late July. Her milky smooth creamy skin and tight snatch and incredible BBBJ forces me to be mesmerized, often recalling those details vividly during our video chat. Otherwise it would be easy to move on.

Another update. A very embarrassing one. In a drunken stupor I messaged her saying I really miss her and to disregard my comments breaking it off with her. The tentative agenda now is back to seeing her and only her the while time I am in Manila, and the saddest part about this is the fact that I have no interest in other girls, even when they have tempted me with promises of carnal nights that I would not forget. Truly sad. I am actually at the point where I want to separate from the wife (have been unhappy in marriage for awhile but this actually prompted me to seriously consider splitting from wife), in hopes of a brighter future with hotter sexier chick like her or someone similar (if this doesn't work out).

Would love to share notes in Oct. When will you be there? I plan on being there 10/1 - 10/8 and possibly extend trip another week if all goes well with this girl.[/QUOTE]You are on the verge of making the most regrettable decision of your life. This girl couldn't give two shits about you, you are one of many rotating white men hitting that. She can't even be bothered to keep up a fake online relationship with you and you are thinking about leaving your real wife / real life for her. Stop putting that pussy up on a pedestal.

Thanks mongers, this is the brutal truth I needed to hear. The thing is, I see how my parents worked all their lives in the US and even at the age of 65, they are still paying mortgage and stuff and still struggle with bills. To me the prospect of an early retirement in Asia is more tempting than my current married life, living almost paycheck to paycheck (although I do manage to max out my 401 k). My wife will consider Asia she prefers the USA. I have completely fallen out of love with her already and is only in it for kids. This is what is making me even consider leaving my wife. It is really more of an excuse to pull the trigger early to start project Asia retirement, where the main issue is my selfishness will cause my kids to see me a lot less. This is the biggest hurdle for me, not the child care or alimony I will need to make.

I did clarify my relationship with the non pro following all your advice. I made it clear I can't be her BF, and we will merely be friends with benefits.

Thanks all for knocking some sense into me, and if anyone had a similar experience in life as to the crossroads I am at which they can share, I'the appreciate it.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2223475]Here in the Forum I have written about a Surigao chick that almost had me believing the same future. Certainly sexier but as time goes on the problems and baggage start to appear.[/QUOTE]BD,

I tried to find your post about this, went back a few pages through your listing history but can't seem to find it. Can I trouble you to link it? Thanks!

[QUOTE=TheApprentice7;2223711]To me the prospect of an early retirement in Asia is more tempting than my current married life, living almost paycheck to paycheck (although I do manage to max out my 401 k). My wife will consider Asia she prefers the USA. I have completely fallen out of love with her already and is only in it for kids. This is what is making me even consider leaving my wife. It is really more of an excuse to pull the trigger early to start project Asia retirement, where the main issue is my selfishness will cause my kids to see me a lot less. This is the biggest hurdle for me, not the child care or alimony I will need to make.[/QUOTE]My condolences on your current situation. This is totally different to throwing your life away because of some hoe you met on line yesterday as many assumed you were doing.

All I can suggest is be very sure of your options before you make any major decisions. You do not have to act on all fronts at once so work on a time line that works in your favour rather than against you.

Break ups and divorces are incredibly difficult both emotionally and financially. Only you will know if its truly beyond recovery or if some time and effort spent on the home front will pay dividends.

If it is beyond repair, get that sorted BEFORE embarking on a pina relationship. Separating because of irreconcilable differences can be understood by spouses, courts and kids. Separating because you cheated on your wife with an apparent Asian hooker half your age will enrage all concerned leaving you to pay the price.

Retiring to the PI works for some but also is a disaster for others. Again, take it slow and learn from others that seem to be going through the process successfully. Kabul Guy, Good Enough and DCups seem to have their act together so maybe search some of their posts. Most importantly, try before you make permanent decisions. Living in Asia is totally different to frequent visits for a couple of weeks.

[QUOTE=TheApprentice7;2223721]BD,

I tried to find your post about this, went back a few pages through your listing history but can't seem to find it. Can I trouble you to link it? Thanks![/QUOTE]Thanks for the fact checking. Here are my posts which include this girl staring.

There are so many lovely girls in PH once you scratch the surface. Not all are hardened pros that will always first get our attention and money.

The standard single mum dancer that plies her trade in AC is not the norm. There are heaps of single, childless, friendly filipina.

One of the stories I know is my ex-Phillies waitress. She tried making it as an OFW and that didn't work. Currently back in her province working her family sari-sari. She just wants a guy to care for. But the province life is not for me.

Miss Surigao is still available in Surigao. Still studying.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1665108]Well it had to happen, after two years of travelling to Philippines I was finally scammed in an online dating site. I know I have written about all of the rules, always get face check, skype etc. In this case, I couldn't / wouldn't get agreement from these two to skype, low bandwidth, account won't load, forgot password etc etc. Anyway I settled for voice contact via their mobiles. That was good and we had good conversations.

First girl, turns out the lady's Tagged profile is a family affair. This 22 year old girl is hot property and is the family's meal ticket to success if they can marry her off to a wealthy foreigner. Messages are answered by the mother, maybe the girl or other members of the family. Lovely people but not my cup of tea.

Second, the other girl. Her cousin set up and answers her Tagged profile. My first contact with her was on the phone, the SMS. Next thing she's in my room telling me how much she loved my Tagged conversations. Hmm. And she stayed the night and was wonderful. Possibly one of the tightest girls I have ever been with and no compensation accepted, not even a trik fare of P10..[/QUOTE][QUOTE=BrainDrain;1842691]Cebu has long been a favorite city of mine, in fact if was my first experience in Philippines. Here is a story of my arrival last week.

I left the provincial city where my provincial girl # 1 had accompanied me to the airport and put me on the flight safely with a good bye kiss after a lovely few romantic days.

The flight landed into Cebu on time and I was greeted by a previous flame from a previous trip, girl #2. No time wasted there. I did have a meeting to go to later that morning, so she suggested we go to a Queenslander so I could freshen up. Three hours in the room was pretty good fun. I headed off to my meeting very happy..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2223954]
Retiring to the PI works for some but also is a disaster for others. Again, take it slow and learn from others that seem to be going through the process successfully. Kabul Guy, Good Enough and DCups seem to have their act together so maybe search some of their posts. Most importantly, try before you make permanent decisions. Living in Asia is totally different to frequent visits for a couple of weeks.[/QUOTE]Goferring provides some wise counsel in his post. I've lived and worked overseas, in a variety of countries in Europe, Africa and Asia for a hell of a long time, and I have seen too many guys crash and burn because of their overly-romanticized view of "the expatriate lifestyle. " Conversely, there are others who live contented lives and will not likely every go back home to live.

Part of a longer-term experience in country depends, I guess on one's personality, and partially on one's expectations. If the primary motivation in coming here is simply having sex with an endless bevy of 20-somethings, then believe me, it gets old fast, and it's not enough to sustain most people I know for very long. So I echo Goferring's suggestion: don't burn all your bridges immediately. Come here for a longer stay than normal and try to live like an expat rather than as a tourist during that time. Start to make friends whose company you enjoy.

GE.

[QUOTE=TheApprentice7;2223711]Thanks mongers, this is the brutal truth I needed to hear. The thing is, I see how my parents worked all their lives in the US and even at the age of 65, they are still paying mortgage and stuff and still struggle with bills. To me the prospect of an early retirement in Asia is more tempting than my current married life, living almost paycheck to paycheck (although I do manage to max out my 401 k). My wife will consider Asia she prefers the USA. I have completely fallen out of love with her already and is only in it for kids. This is what is making me even consider leaving my wife. It is really more of an excuse to pull the trigger early to start project Asia retirement, where the main issue is my selfishness will cause my kids to see me a lot less. This is the biggest hurdle for me, not the child care or alimony I will need to make.

I did clarify my relationship with the non pro following all your advice. I made it clear I can't be her BF, and we will merely be friends with benefits.

Thanks all for knocking some sense into me, and if anyone had a similar experience in life as to the crossroads I am at which they can share, I'the appreciate it.

Thanks![/QUOTE]You need a lot of sense knocked into you. If you go to Philippines or Thailand, you will get it knocked into you as you are a prime candidate for the rebound shakedown. You are running from your wife, not going to anything and in SE Asia, that is disaster. The only happy ending you get is some midget pulling your knob. I have spent over half my life abroad, much of it in Asia. The key thing is you have to be doing something besides bonking a Samar farmer's daughter, working out in the gym and downing Happy Hour SMBs with other losers.

Hitching up with a rice farmer's daughter suit many types: ex military, tattooed types and so on. I've met lots of decent, older guys who think they will find the love of their second lives in a brothel. The women are nice but they are "fallen" women", creatures of the night, as a 1980's' song had it. Last time, I had this pommie be-the in his 70's tell me he was there to "save" a girl who would love him in return. He is the one who needs saving, from himself.

By and large, all young women want young guys, not only to drill them unmercifully but to have common dreams and talk common shyyt together, to confide in each other and so on. They don't want grand the on his dialysis machine and back pack of Viagra.

This conversation has gone on since this forum began and will go on till it ends. First off, find out what you want to do and what you want to be. SE Asia can be a very expensive place for that voyage. If you're happy hanging around bars for their SMB happy hour and hitching up with some Samar whrre and if you want to improve your pool skills and develop a liking for karaoke and kim chee, then head to Angeles.

There are countless exceptions to this visa of staring off into an Alzheimer's induced nothingness but, if you do not have your life plan and game sorted, that is what most likely awaits you.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2223451]Hold up. I thought you were married. If so, then why the fuck would you need to get over someone else? Is this how you ended up married in the first place? Met a chick, she put that pussy on you, and then you didn't have interest in seeing anyone else? Man you must be one of those hopeless romantics. Once again, this thing is cop and blow. Women come and women go. My policy is to just enjoy a person while I am with them.

I have gone through at least 50 new non-paid chicks in the past year and I am not singing love songs. One chick sucked your dick without a condom and now you are all in love? You might need to play the lottery. Either I am doing something wrong or you are fooling yourself.

20 years ago when I was your age, I was fucking everything that moved. These days I am fucking it whether it is moving or not. So many chicks try to get me to settle down. For what? I tell them to try to enjoy being with a person without putting all kinds of stipulations on them. You have too much time on your hands if you are worrying about what that chick is doing 24 hours a day. Stop starving for attention and let the damn girl breathe.

Besides, NEW PUSSY CAN'T COOK!
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp39zD6_cLU[/url][/QUOTE]Tx for the link. Classsic Chris Rock:

Commitment gives you a headache every now and then.

New Pussy clears up your mind!

We all know that many Filipina are wonderful actresses. For sure some of them deserve awards.

Surely to all of them can be playing us though? In the case of the hotel waitress that I am dating at the moment. She has had one long term foreigner BF before. That was a few years ago and since then supposedly not looking for a BF.

Now she says she's committed to me, obviously ready fro a child, and will stay with me forever.

I have no problems getting myself out of this pickle BUT how do they get themselves so twisted up in a guy that they have met just a few times.

Ideas and thoughts?

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2225533]We all know that many Filipina are wonderful actresses. For sure some of them deserve awards.

Surely to all of them can be playing us though? In the case of the hotel waitress that I am dating at the moment. She has had one long term foreigner BF before. That was a few years ago and since then supposedly not looking for a BF.

Now she says she's committed to me, obviously ready fro a child, and will stay with me forever.

I have no problems getting myself out of this pickle BUT how do they get themselves so twisted up in a guy that they have met just a few times.

Ideas and thoughts?[/QUOTE]As one Filipina said to me about her friend, "M is stupid for love". Aren't we all? At one time or another?

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2225533]I have no problems getting myself out of this pickle BUT how do they get themselves so twisted up in a guy that they have met just a few times.[/QUOTE]The don't fall in love with the guy after just a few chats or meets. They fall in love with something they have known a long time: They fall in love with the idea of being in love.

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2224118]
This conversation has gone on since this forum began and will go on till it ends. First off, find out what you want to do and what you want to be. SE Asia can be a very expensive place for that voyage. If you're happy hanging around bars for their SMB happy hour and hitching up with some Samar whrre and if you want to improve your pool skills and develop a liking for karaoke and kim chee, then head to Angeles.

There are countless exceptions to this visa of staring off into an Alzheimer's induced nothingness but, if you do not have your life plan and game sorted, that is what most likely awaits you.[/QUOTE]There's a lot of brutally honest, and very sound advice in PM's response. Like him, I've spent about half my life overseas, much of it in Africa and SE Asia, and though certain asapects of the scene (price, locations, the Internet) have changed over time, the actors and their characters remain invariate.

Most of the happier long-term expats I've met around the world, have settled into long—term relationships and live relatively "normal" lives, myself included. The bang-a-younger-chick-a day obsession wears off fairly quickly, and as does the accessibility of an endless supply of women with whom you have nothing in common. Sooner or later, as the song goes, "we all need somebody to talk to," and most expats are not exempted. Eventually, most of the expats I know, get their heads out of their asses and out of the bars eventually, and before too much damage has been done, and establish relationships with women who would never be caught dead in such establishments.

GE.