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[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2691897]July fourth is a North American holiday and you probably will not hear a word about it while in Medellin. [/QUOTE]July 4, 2022 is Feast of Saint Peter and Saint Paul, which is a national holiday in Colombia. That may have an impact on P4P because many chicas will have a three day weekend with their families.
I have never met this chica face to face yet. She is a Web cam model.
I recently posted to JimBo about how being empathetic and acknowledging chicas' difficulties can go a long way toward keeping them happy, even when you don't give or send them money. This scenario is a little different because she is not on my List or an established novia, but the principles are the same.
The Whassap dialogue below is a great example.
The irony is when you read or listen to these chicas, sometimes they seem to be asking for money, when really they are not. Like females all over the world, sometimes all they want is a sympathetic ear. Not advice. Just someone who they perceive might actually give a shit.
Hindsight is always 20/20 and I made a couple of stupid, pointless comments below. My two comments at {7:40 PM, 4/29/2022} served no useful purpose but I left them in to show her reaction.
The fact that she described staying home and not working because she was sad about her bills was not lost on me. Obviously, that is counterproductive behavior. Unless she is your wife, don't "scold" these girls, which is the word they almost always use. Serves no purpose other than to create tension. They will not change because of your advice. Save your breath. All I did in a small way was validate her feelings, and let her vent.
Pay special attention to her comments at {7:44 PM, 4/29/2022}.
At {1:49 PM, 4/30/2022} purrfekt example of a cultural misunderstanding. I was telling her not to take things personally so she did not get her feelings hurt. She thought I meant I did not want to get close and personal with her.
{5:20 and 5:21 PM, 4/30/2022} was the turning point. Remember, without spending a peso despite the subject.
The second to last line, {5:22 PM, 4/30/2022} "I will make you happy", I am obviously using a euphemism for "I am not going to pay now, but I will pay later" after sex, and she knows that.
She is a sweet, sensitive girl. Ironically, on-line she is the nastiest, most dirty girl with whom I have ever tried to hook-up. That's what grabbed my attention. For looks, she is probably a 6.36377 at best, jajaja. With her, it's going to be all about performance, personality, and getting down-and-dirty. We all know more often that not, these plans don't pan out. But the fun in trying is fantastic. I will be sure to let you all know what happens.
I am into her for exactly zero pesos at this time. That's a lie because I just remembered I have tipped her on line, but no mucho. The hardest part will be if she decides to see me, how will I work her into my full schedule? Maybe invite her over to Scarlet's apartment for a 7-way, jajajajaja.
The take-home message is do not be the first to bring up the subject of money, especially sending money, with these chicas. Believe it or not, many times they are not looking for money, as show below. Took me a long time to learn that. There are plenty of chicas who will be aggressive about asking for money, but don't be the one who brings it up first. Ostee Out!
{4:19 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: Hi Love.
{4:19 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: I'm online.
{4:19 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: Do you want to come see me?
{5:13 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: I'm a little sad.
{6:59 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: And you don't answer me for me to talk to someone.
{7:40 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: Sorry baby, I've been busy.
{7:40 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: Be happy that I was able to visit you for a few minutes on-line and give you a little tip.
{7:43 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: Love.
{7:43 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: But I'm not saying that's why.
{7:44 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: You don't even ask me the reason for my sadness.
{7:46 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: Then tell me, of course. I want to know.
{7:47 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: You scold me without asking me what's wrong.
{7:48 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: Honey, I'm not scolding you. I don't have a bad thought about you.
{7:49 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: Okay?
{7:50 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: Tell me.
{7:51 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: Well, it's just that on Monday I have to pay the rent for my house and my work has gone a little badly, that's all, I'm a little worried.
{7:52 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: Yes, my love. That's a lot of stress and pressure.
{7:55 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: Yes indeed.
{7:55 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: I was thinking of asking for money from a daily collector (loan shark).
{7:55 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: But I don't want to be in debt to someone like that.
{7:57 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: You shouldn't, interest rates are too high, it can be dangerous.
{7:58 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: Yes indeed, yes.
{7:58 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: But I don't know what to do.
{1:39 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: Good afternoon love.
{1:40 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: Are you doing any better?
{1:40 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: I'm home I felt bad and left work.
{1:42 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: If I was there in person, I would help you.
{1:42 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: Of course.
{1:46 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: Sorry you have to wait.
{1:46 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: Why didn't you come see me today?
{1:48 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: Don't take these things personally. I'm on a lunch break now. I have many things to do before returning to Medellin in less than two weeks.
{1:49 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: And why are you telling me not to take things personally?
{1:50 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: My Spanish is not that good, I meant you shouldn't let your feelings get hurt, I like you a lot, but the things I'm doing right now are important. Of course, I want to be personal with you and get to know you better.
{1:51 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: Do you understand?
{1:52 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: I will not intentionally hurt you. I will never hit you. We are off to a good start. I will tell you the truth as best I can.
{5:20 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: Thank you for always being there for me.
{5:21 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: You have earned my trust and love.
{5:21 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: I'm really not lying to you.
{5:22 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: I want to meet you.
{5:22 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: We will, I will make you happy, you just have to wait a little longer until I get there.
{5:23 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: I will wait love.
I attached a couple of screenshots from a video I have of her. I think her general enthusiasm shows through. I will run laps on any chica who lines up her three holes like in the first foto- mouth, pussy, ass, mouth, pussy, ass. Anyone got a stopwatch? Or we can take bets how many holes I can get my leche dripping out of her at the same time. Love it. She has the requisite finger tattoos that that I often associate with that certain dirty rawness. Her doggy pose removes any doubt of three-hole access and shows her nice fat ass. I hope she pans out. I could use a good dose of raunchy sex with a new chica and this foreplay is delicious. Only time will tell.
[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2692116]The owner of Loutron also owns Abydos which is a massage / sex parlor on Avenida 33. Same level of women, but about half the price. Loutron has women that are taller, run way models, at higher prices. Abydos has more girls from the country, over all shorter, but more enthusiastic and affectionate.[/QUOTE]Abydos was my favorite casa back in the day. I'm sure they closed years ago.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2692473]Abydos was my favorite casa back in the day. I'm sure they closed years ago.[/QUOTE]But when KneelGorge wrote "on Avenida 33" that's not enough to go by to find that place. Avenida 33 is a main thorofare, if it's the road I am thinking of. Need more info.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2692473]Abydos was my favorite casa back in the day. I'm sure they closed years ago.[/QUOTE]
If you Google Sala de masajes Abydos or Abydos Spa they seem to have an active Facebook page and website. However, the address is given as Cra 43 D #10-46. Now on the "To be checked" list for my return visit come July. Meanwhile, I hope that a BM ventures a field visit shortly and reports back here on their findings.
When I Googled, I found two different places with very similar names.
[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;2692544]If you Google Sala de masajes Abydos or Abydos Spa they seem to have an active Facebook page and website. However, the address is given as Cra 43 D #10-46. Now on the "To be checked" list for my return visit come July. Meanwhile, I hope that a BM ventures a field visit shortly and reports back here on their findings.[/QUOTE]Abybos (with a b) Spa that you mentioned is in Malina / Poblado (Cra 43 the #10-46). The one on Avenida 33 is or was called AbyDos (with a d). The address is / was Calle 33 # 64-198. Not sure if it is still in business. Their website for sure is died.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2692177]For regular P4P, 300 mil COP is the standard rate for 3 hours, albeit also the transition point for overnight, but look at all the extras you are getting with this service. Love the costume choices. I hope this venture is a success. I may put my nail clippers in the safe and try it myself, jaja.[/QUOTE]Are you assuming sex is included? It is not listed so I guess it costs extra.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2692688]Are you assuming sex is included? It is not listed so I guess it costs extra.[/QUOTE]I don't remember what I was thinking. Maybe you tip her for the sex? I don't know what their business model is but my guess would be they send the girl out for the posted price, and then whatever she can get on her own once she's on site she gets to keep. That's how I would run it but what do I know? There is def more than one way to peel an onion in this example.
What I really was thinking was that initially when I posted about this new company I was perceived as possibly being against the concept. I wanted to repost for the record, that I am for the concept.
Definitely, looks like the girl was hinting thst she needed some money and hoping you'd swoop in and solve her problems. Sometimes it seems to me that they chicken out from asking for money when you don't take their hints and run to their rescue.
Anyway, I've only been with one webcam, and by accident (I've never tried to get one off a camsite), but it was up there in terms of sexual experiences for me. Afterwards she flipped out her phone and was showing me her work photos, which was an added bonus. So hope this one works out for you. If not the camgirl density in Medellin is probably the highest in the world and it sounds like you have already sampled a few.
Personally I've been wondering if anyone has got with any of the emerging Medellin pornstars? Seems like the top tier ones go to Europe quickly but there seems to be a rapidly expanding second tier that stay in Colombia. One, Mila Garcia has a Facebook account, but doesn't seem to use it much. So I haven't tried to contact her. Anyway, I've always heard you could get with pornstars in Brazil and have been wondering if there are similar possibilities emerging in Medellin given the expanding local industry? Would definitely be a bucket list item for me.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2692462]I have never met this chica face to face yet. She is a Web cam model.
I recently posted to JimBo about how being empathetic and acknowledging chicas' difficulties can go a long way toward keeping them happy, even when you don't give or send them money. This scenario is a little different because she is not on my List or an established novia, but the principles are the same.
The Whassap dialogue below is a great example.
The irony is when you read or listen to these chicas, sometimes they seem to be asking for money, when really they are not. Like females all over the world, sometimes all they want is a sympathetic ear. Not advice. Just someone who they perceive might actually give a shit.
Hindsight is always 20/20 and I made a couple of stupid, pointless comments below. My two comments at {7:40 PM, 4/29/2022} served no useful purpose but I left them in to show her reaction.
The fact that she described staying home and not working because she was sad about her bills was not lost on me. Obviously, that is counterproductive behavior. Unless she is your wife, don't "scold" these girls, which is the word they almost always use. Serves no purpose other than to create tension. They will not change because of your advice. Save your breath. All I did in a small way was validate her feelings, and let her vent.
Pay special attention to her comments at {7:44 PM, 4/29/2022}.
At {1:49 PM, 4/30/2022} purrfekt example of a cultural misunderstanding. I was telling her not to take things personally so she did not get her feelings hurt. She thought I meant I did not want to get close and personal with her.
{5:20 and 5:21 PM, 4/30/2022} was the turning point. Remember, without spending a peso despite the subject.
The second to last line, {5:22 PM, 4/30/2022} "I will make you happy", I am obviously using a euphemism for "I am not going to pay now, but I will pay later" after sex, and she knows that.
She is a sweet, sensitive girl. Ironically, on-line she is the nastiest, most dirty girl with whom I have ever tried to hook-up. That's what grabbed my attention. For looks, she is probably a 6.36377 at best, jajaja. With her, it's going to be all about performance, personality, and getting down-and-dirty. We all know more often that not, these plans don't pan out. But the fun in trying is fantastic. I will be sure to let you all know what happens.
I am into her for exactly zero pesos at this time. That's a lie because I just remembered I have tipped her on line, but no mucho. The hardest part will be if she decides to see me, how will I work her into my full schedule? Maybe invite her over to Scarlet's apartment for a 7-way, jajajajaja.
The take-home message is do not be the first to bring up the subject of money, especially sending money, with these chicas. Believe it or not, many times they are not looking for money, as show below. Took me a long time to learn that. There are plenty of chicas who will be aggressive about asking for money, but don't be the one who brings it up first. Ostee Out!
{4:19 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: Hi Love.
{4:19 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: I'm online.
{4:19 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: Do you want to come see me?
{5:13 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: I'm a little sad.
{6:59 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: And you don't answer me for me to talk to someone.
{7:40 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: Sorry baby, I've been busy.
{7:40 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: Be happy that I was able to visit you for a few minutes on-line and give you a little tip.
{7:43 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: Love.
{7:43 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: But I'm not saying that's why.
{7:44 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: You don't even ask me the reason for my sadness.
{7:46 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: Then tell me, of course. I want to know.
{7:47 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: You scold me without asking me what's wrong.
{7:48 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: Honey, I'm not scolding you. I don't have a bad thought about you.
{7:49 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: Okay?
{7:50 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: Tell me.
{7:51 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: Well, it's just that on Monday I have to pay the rent for my house and my work has gone a little badly, that's all, I'm a little worried.
{7:52 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: Yes, my love. That's a lot of stress and pressure.
{7:55 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: Yes indeed.
{7:55 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: I was thinking of asking for money from a daily collector (loan shark).
{7:55 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: But I don't want to be in debt to someone like that.
{7:57 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: You shouldn't, interest rates are too high, it can be dangerous.
{7:58 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: Yes indeed, yes.
{7:58 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: But I don't know what to do.
{1:39 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: Good afternoon love.
{1:40 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: Are you doing any better?
{1:40 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: I'm home I felt bad and left work.
{1:42 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: If I was there in person, I would help you.
{1:42 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: Of course.
{1:46 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: Sorry you have to wait.
{1:46 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: Why didn't you come see me today?
{1:48 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: Don't take these things personally. I'm on a lunch break now. I have many things to do before returning to Medellin in less than two weeks.
{1:49 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: And why are you telling me not to take things personally?
{1:50 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: My Spanish is not that good, I meant you shouldn't let your feelings get hurt, I like you a lot, but the things I'm doing right now are important. Of course, I want to be personal with you and get to know you better.
{1:51 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: Do you understand?
{1:52 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: I will not intentionally hurt you. I will never hit you. We are off to a good start. I will tell you the truth as best I can.
{5:20 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: Thank you for always being there for me.
{5:21 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: You have earned my trust and love.
{5:21 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: I'm really not lying to you.
{5:22 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: I want to meet you.
{5:22 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: We will, I will make you happy, you just have to wait a little longer until I get there.
{5:23 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: I will wait love.
I attached a couple of screenshots from a video I have of her. I think her general enthusiasm shows through. I will run laps on any chica who lines up her three holes like in the first foto- mouth, pussy, ass, mouth, pussy, ass. Anyone got a stopwatch? Or we can take bets how many holes I can get my leche dripping out of her at the same time. Love it. She has the requisite finger tattoos that that I often associate with that certain dirty rawness. Her doggy pose removes any doubt of three-hole access and shows her nice fat ass. I hope she pans out. I could use a good dose of raunchy sex with a new chica and this foreplay is delicious. Only time will tell.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2692462]I have never met this chica face to face yet. She is a Web cam model.
I recently posted to JimBo about how being empathetic and acknowledging chicas' difficulties can go a long way toward keeping them happy, even when you don't give or send them money. This scenario is a little different because she is not on my List or an established novia, but the principles are the same.
The Whassap dialogue below is a great example.
The irony is when you read or listen to these chicas, sometimes they seem to be asking for money, when really they are not. Like females all over the world, sometimes all they want is a sympathetic ear. Not advice. Just someone who they perceive might actually give a shit.[/QUOTE]This is almost the exact conversation I had with a Venezuelan cam girl in Colombia. We talked for 3 months. Even had conversations with her mother. Said she couldn't wait to meet me. Then the sob story, sent some cash and in the end never saw her. Of course you know better than me and won't give her any money till you see her in the "flesh" LOL. Been learning a lot from your posts and can't wait for my first visit to MDE next week.
Griz.
[QUOTE=Recondite;2692694]Definitely, looks like the girl was hinting thst she needed some money and hoping you'd swoop in and solve her problems.[/QUOTE]I will suggest you don't include the entire original post in your response, especially when the original poster (me) was long winded. If I don't bring it up, someone else will.
I would've agreed with you a year ago about chicas wanting money then "chickening out" at the end, but now I don't believe it's that overt.
First, these girls are often casting a very wide net when looking for money, so their success or failure with an individual gringo doesn't bother them as much as you might think.
Secondly, as I wrote, they genuinely want empathy and that counts for a lot. When I had less experience with chicas from MDE, sometimes I would bring up money first when I thought the chica was fishing, and then get scolded, hard. She would say something like, "I wasn't asking you for money, I was sharing my situation." I know, hard to believe at first but it's true for some of them.
Ally has been in daily contact with me. She hasn't mentioned money again other than she had a "good day" camming today so sounds like she made rent.
If you monger a lot, you have been with more Web cam models than you realize, jeje. Finding them on-line accounts for a very small but very enjoyable part of my mongering. I will never forget and in some ways, never top Caribe coming over most mornings for a few weeks from her night shift at the studio, throwing me in the shower, and using me as her sex slave, for "free". I paid a price in the end, but I would also do it over again, and I can tell you for sure, if she's available, I will fuck her again someday.
Finally, as I also have written, in the short term, most of these chicas would rather have the money than respect you, but they respect a guy who isn't a pushover for money. Know when to say no.
I will look stupid to some if Ally ghosts me when I arrive, but that won't bug me too much. I enjoy the journey and don't look at the end result as being success or failure. She is one chica of many. Desire is often the enemy.
I have three new chicas lined up for my return trip, two seem solid if we count Ally as one. The third I won't be surprised at all if she flakes but she's worth the effort to me.
I don't know anything about the porn scene in Medellin. There was supposedly a lot of underage porn in MDE, I dunno, 6-10 years ago that got appropriately shut down but there is still a hangover from that which Medellin has not completely recovered. My info on that is mostly here say.
Thanks for the feedback and Keep On Keepin' On!
A Full-Monty of non-random fotos, all of Caribe. Looking at these fotos reminds me how strong she was. Mind blown just thinking about her. My finger-tip, figure-eight bandage for a bleeding cut and partially torn off nail, I made from a panito I cut with scissors.
HappyShiva. Your inbox is full. Will contact you by PM once you clear your inbox.
[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2691018]Any one traveling to Medellin between May 9th until 19 please contact me, we can get together and go for beer. Stayin at San Peters, Laureles or Dorado 70.[/QUOTE]
Great report. Sometimes you just get what you pay for.
[QUOTE=MaximusV;2691664]I will write a full report of this trips activities but wanted to report on one particular experience that just happened. It has been said many times before, there are many different ways to monger. Some like the bargain basement of el centro, some like searching FB, seeking, tinder or hitting the casas or strip clubs. I stick to mostly Seeking and my parameters are all natural, if a chica has fake tits, ass, lips or tattoos it's a huge turn off. I look for the girl next door wholesome type of beauty.
This trip I found a beautiful all-natural chica on seeking who checked all the boxes! Spoke English, perfect body (very active lifestyle) university student who also works at a bank and started 2 online businesses. I hit the jackpot again, another unicorn! We quickly exchange pleasantries on the site and switch over to WhatsApp. I invite her out for dinner and drinks and say if we like each other, we can head back to my hotel after. Then she drops a bomb shell and says "if you want me to go to your hotel it will be 1,500 MIL! Yes, you read that right 1,500,000 pesos! I said whoa that's too much nobody would ever pay that much! I countered at 500 MIL. She just replied "no". I countered again with the best I can do is 700 MIL. She responded back with "no". I said no one is going to pay that price if you change your mind reach out to me...[/QUOTE]
Arriving Medellin on May 9th by American Airlines and their website says that If I am fully vaccinated, I do not need to produce Covid 19 PCR or Antigen test to board the flight, but to return to USA, I will need a 24 hours PCR or Antigen or Rapid test. So the question to the frequent fliers is that if the colombian immigracion require or if they check for printed PCR or Antigen test results in order for me to enter in their country. The Second question is if there is any Mask regulations on flights, streets of Colombia, Cabs or Metro.