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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1835851]You already know about Spain I assume. Dresses typically. I dunno why you'd want to see them dressed. I suggest staying by the reception, and you can see them walk in dressed. LOL. Kidding.

For me, I do like sexy lingerie or two pieces, etc. , and it does enhance how I see them compared to nude. But, logically you will take them to the room, and it will be nude interaction in the room anyways, so nude means no surprises there. Madrid was dressed girls, and you can make out their silouette, but there is still a limit there. One girl I've taken there was jean shorts and short top. High percentage of EEs (Ro, Mo, Bu).

But, I'd agree that dressed does brings out some character of the girl. We see dressed girls around all the time, and find some of them attractive in how they are dressed as well.

As a no surprise, I prefer to see the tits at least, and stocking with garter belts I think is sexy. But, I got to say, I have seen some girls with big titties at Saunaclubs clovering up their titties, probably due to support. Seen enough high cup girls that kept covered. One time a pink body lingerie like pictured or similar black which is erotic lookin.

Don't you see some cut off jeans in FKKs? I think it's sexy, still the kitty is not covered.[/QUOTE]Dear P.S..

I have never been in Spain. I think it is a good summer option. But the bad side of Spain is I think you can't spend time in Spain brothels. You have to go and select the girl immediately and get to the room.

Also prices is higher compared to Germany. So I never thought Spain is an option equivalent to Germany.

HB,

I will evaluate last Tuesday of Palace if I can. Nice to hear that. That was what I am looking for.

Regards.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1836200]But the bad side of Spain is I think you can't spend time in Spain brothels. You have to go and select the girl immediately and get to the room.

[/QUOTE]Not if you go to the clubs in Spain. Yes, you are dressed, but you can spend as much time at the bar as you like, watching the girls, chatting them up, making your selection. Girls will be dressed as well. For example Club Privee in Reus, South of Barcelona. Or Airfactory in Madrid etc. There should be plenty of info in the Spain section of the board.

HB.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1836200]Dear P.S..

I have never been in Spain. I think it is a good summer option. But the bad side of Spain is I think you can't spend time in Spain brothels. You have to go and select the girl immediately and get to the room.

Also prices is higher compared to Germany. So I never thought Spain is an option equivalent to Germany.

[/QUOTE]Like you say, Spain is not a place for spending a lot of time like FKKs, as people have warned me (it's more of something you do at night compared the De being stretched out to day/night affairs, so you just occupy your time with other activities before it kicks off late night). What was said and was to be expected about Spain was met on my Madrid trip, but checked it out to experience the scene to see if I could experience any distinct positives. There was a bit of hype about stunning girls at a particular club (Vive), and what I realized is my idea of a stunner would be different from some others (which kinda expected, but still wanted to what the hype was about), and also EEs prevelant there like any other P6 scene such as in De. But, if you are used to EEs in FKKs, high percentage of EEs there as well. If you are not such a stickler on service level (or been spoiled in De), it's not bad, service in general seems ok to below avg(my experience) as I have not run into any memorable girl either looks or service wise myself. Small sampling, and could be bad picks. Also, I take it that Vive for example is a better option for those(are loose with their wallets) into Latinas a lot more or those that are into women on the upper age bracket (27 - 30+), but which I personally am into (20-25) range, so clubs in De is better option for me.

Prices doesn't have to be higher. Some venues, you can find young Romie that will low ball you down to 50 (or go lower as you do longer time like 2 hrs for 150 and that may include CIM even), but the attractiveness of the girl at that venue compared to Vive (110 per half) depends on the punters as if the expensive Vive is worth it or another club that doesn't have such a huge LU or so called "stunners"(which I didn't think were by the way, but optiks were higher than others I can I agree on).

If you get Vive girls to strip naked, and compare with girls in De, I would think it's pretty comparable personally, or even De edges out a bit. But, different scene, and as you say girls dressed, and that could be more enticing for those into that.

Based on the hype really not met about club Vive in Madrid, I was thinking Barcelona would not be that bad of a scene either although I haven't checked out yet. I think there is a club in La Jonquera (outside BCN), club Paradise should have heaps of girls like 100-150, so why not? Hehe.

Like HB has pointed out, you can talk with the girls like FKKs, it's not grab them and go. Although in FKKs, it can be she played with my dick or BBBJ then go. Hehe. Girls are not pushy as I've heard either, although odd ones here and there that won't I couldn't communicate lack of Spanish was a bit persistent.

I look at it as a scene I checked off as done that like some of the others I've experienced.

[QUOTE=XXL;1835734]Again a very good girls to men ratio. One wonders how this place can break even if custom is even weaker on week-days.[/QUOTE]Girls work differently, and the place she works is due to pros and cons of the place she works at I take it. Competition would be one, as I've heard new girls at a club feel a bit inadequate, and expresses this. Surprised to find so many beauties at the club. For the less experienced ones, getting approached the least would take a toll on their ego. And then you got the really flamboyant ones that will really hunt down punters, and newbies are likely their best targets. Those are the ones I think people say, take your time, don't choose the first girl that comes up to you. So, competition would be one good reason why a girl would not work long at a club, although I'm sure there are ones that just sticks it out see if their clientele base rises. Even for girls, there's probably ones that realize one club environment works best for them over others after exploring a bit. Usually the ones that has moved around knows the best and can weight the pros and cons the best for obvious reasons.

If you consider a girl that has lot more high optik competition at one club, and then at another not much, she can sweep up a lot of clients at one that do not, but this of course depends on her service level and clientele types.

There was a girl met at SixSens, and she would only show up on the weekend. Don't work during the week, and she was Ro. First Ro I've met that chooses to limit her work to couple days out of the week. Obvious reason would be most clientele she notices coming in on the weekend. She just basically optimizing how she spends her work schedule. And as somebody pointed out, this can appear to be that virtual demand since she limits her schedule to raise her demand. Just by the fact that she can limit her schedule in such a way, implies that the club's rules isn't restrictive of her schedule, as been mentioned about certain clubs. I've had a good time with her, very lively, fun, and at the same time she does other things outside her club work, not work too much, so perhaps that keeps her at a better mental state to work better?

Interestingly enough, most often it's the Germans that limit their schedule due to their circumstances. Partially where they come from a distance or. Several reasons I'm sure why other girls will be present more in clubs. One top reason for Ro for example, would be they come to De to work, and get out of dodge for relaxation to their home country. Sometimes they live in the dorm at or by the club, and they just work most often. With De girls, they are in their home country so they likely got many of other ajendas. Some working regular work, doing weekends. Some work just enough for necessities if their situation is dire to afford the necessities.

Something I do notice with some German girls regarding limiting their work is that some of them seem so carefree about how much business they get. They don't stress out about doing a marathon of customers. For instance, I notice one German girl at LR that I've sessioned with earlier on, and then around midnight she still hang around. I recommended her to a punter, and he came back saying she was done for the night. Go figure. Not all are like this, but it seems just higher liklihood that Germans would choose to cap at a quota and be done with it.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1836288]Like you say, Spain is not a place for spending a lot of time like FKKs, as people have warned me (it's more of something you do at night compared the De being stretched out to day/night affairs, so you just occupy your time with other activities before it kicks off late night). What was said and was to be expected about Spain was met on my Madrid trip, but checked it out to experience the scene to see if I could experience any distinct positives. There was a bit of hype about stunning girls at a particular club (Vive), and what I realized is my idea of a stunner would be different from some others (which kinda expected, but still wanted to what the hype was about), and also EEs prevelant there like any other P6 scene such as in De. But, if you are used to EEs in FKKs, high percentage of EEs there as well. If you are not such a stickler on service level (or been spoiled in De), it's not bad, service in general seems ok to below avg(my experience) as I have not run into any memorable girl either looks or service wise myself. Small sampling, and could be bad picks. Also, I take it that Vive for example is a better option for those(are loose with their wallets) into Latinas a lot more or those that are into women on the upper age bracket (27 - 30+), but which I personally am into (20-25) range, so clubs in De is better option for me.

I look at it as a scene I checked off as done that like some of the others I've experienced.[/QUOTE]Dear PL,

I really appreciate this analysis and comparison since I had hard time to understand your english. LOL.

For P4 P option it is clear Germany is better option. My opinion is no argument on this after reading your post and many others in the past.

Of course being satisfied can't be reduced that kind of comparisons. It's a matter of chance, chemistry, good mood and other many variables.

So briefly I want to ask a few simple questions to you and other punters who tried both (SP and DE).

Which one were you happier? In Spain or DE?

Which one you were feeling more satisfied and get your money's worth?

Which one will you prefer for your next travel?

You can include to your review and opinion I. E. One night spend with a freebie out in a club while you were just there for P4 P. Let's assume you were just lucky.

Regards.

We just went through several rounds of extensive comparisons of Germany v Thailand, and perhaps we are now into the follow up on Germany v Spain. But I will chime in and say my (limited) experiences in Spain were far inferior to my (limited) experiences in Germany. On price, quality, quantity, overall satisfaction, desire to keep going back, and so on and so forth. So much so that the last few times I was in Spain I did not even bother to visit any club, but saved my energy, just walked around and went for a nice dinner, slept early (BTW, Barcelona is lovely for all those things) and just waited to visit Frankfurt.

I am sure I could find a few beauties here and there. And yes, if taking a one off session for say 40 min, club Felina or some other club in BCN would work. But staying 10 hrs, relaxing, perhaps having a nice chat with fellow guests, and most importantly taking in the beauty and plotting my next room visit. No comparison.

And BTW, the reason I prefer full nude to dessous is not because I need to inspect some goods as if I was a purchasing manager at a large company. I prefer it because I like to look at naked girls. That's how I can keep going for one more extra room. If the girls were fully or partially dressed, I might not get excited enough for my 3rd or 4th round, on the 4th consecutive day of clubbing.

And I like to look at nekkid gals even if I have no intention of sessioning with them. That's the best part of FKK. See pretty girls in all their glory.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1836457]Dear PL,

I really appreciate this analysis and comparison since I had hard time to understand your english. LOL.

For P4 P option it is clear Germany is better option. My opinion is no argument on this after reading your post and many others in the past.

Of course being satisfied can't be reduced that kind of comparisons. It's a matter of chance, chemistry, good mood and other many variables.

So briefly I want to ask a few simple questions to you and other punters who tried both (SP and DE).

Which one were you happier? In Spain or DE?

Which one you were feeling more satisfied and get your money's worth?

Which one will you prefer for your next travel?

You can include to your review and opinion I. E. One night spend with a freebie out in a club while you were just there for P4 P. Let's assume you were just lucky.

Regards.[/QUOTE]My English is that bad, huh? I need to re-take some English classes I barely passed. LOL.

I was happier in De. I was being a bit wordy since people are of different circumstances and experience things different due to preference. Just in consideration of those.

I get my money's worth in De(atleast more so than my experience in Spain), and I would travel to De instead of Madrid. But, given how I am, I may do BCN. Hehe. Then again, I have a list of other places I haven't been either. I'll see how my mood triggers things.

You can read my report on the Madrid forum for details. I don't want to say what my experience was end of all, but just an added perspective. I allotted two days for Madrid for my Madrid/De trip. There are many stuff that goes into the visits to places being good to bad. Many variables such as day chosen, girls picked, and the others you mentioned above. I think I provided information fairly impartially although experiences are really quite subjective as we all know being human. This is why I was talking more in depth of possibilities why my experience could be different from another's.

What I wrote would make more sense if I told you that I went to Madrid to check out the club Vive (and few others while I was there). Some reports praised highly of the club, so that peaked my interest to see for myself.

It's really difficult to answer those questions without explanation for why. Too binary.

Your Hungary report was one of the best reads. Any recent ones? If you write a FKK report like the Hungry one, that would be a fun read I think.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1836030]What the most unfortunate thing to see/feel are really bad silicone implants. Turn off to see the cut marks at the bottom of the implants. What's even worse is when it's hard as a rock. It's underneath her top, and you can tell by looking at her tits in this instance. It feels cold when I feel hard tits, you know what I mean? I like fair sized boobs to grab on to, and soft is nicest. [/QUOTE]100% agree. For me its not the scar that is the issue, it's the feel. My last trip I had 2 sessions (out of 20) with girls who had implants. Neither had crazy large (ie sillies), but rather they both looked very well done, but the touch factor was completely wrong. I much prefer the feel of a natural small breast than a larger enhanced one.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1836561]My English is that bad, huh? I need to re-take some English classes I barely passed. LOL.

I was happier in De. I was being a bit wordy since people are of different circumstances and experience things different due to preference. Just in consideration of those.

I get my money's worth in De(atleast more so than my experience in Spain), and I would travel to De instead of Madrid. But, given how I am, I may do BCN. Hehe. Then again, I have a list of other places I haven't been either. I'll see how my mood triggers things.

You can read my report on the Madrid forum for details. I don't want to say what my experience was end of all, but just an added perspective. I allotted two days for Madrid for my Madrid/De trip. There are many stuff that goes into the visits to places being good to bad. Many variables such as day chosen, girls picked, and the others you mentioned above. I think I provided information fairly impartially although experiences are really quite subjective as we all know being human. This is why I was talking more in depth of possibilities why my experience could be different from another's.

What I wrote would make more sense if I told you that I went to Madrid to check out the club Vive (and few others while I was there). Some reports praised highly of the club, so that peaked my interest to see for myself.

It's really difficult to answer those questions without explanation for why. Too binary.

Your Hungary report was one of the best reads. Any recent ones? If you write a FKK report like the Hungry one, that would be a fun read I think.[/QUOTE]Better than mine considering how many years I have been learning English LOL.

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[QUOTE=Clodius1;1835291]Hello everyone,

So far I have enjoyed PSR, ACA, and GT, but I still haven't found a FKK in Germany where girls are completely nude. Please throw some names out there for me. I understand that the totally nude FKKs sometimes have lingerie days, but I can work around those days.

Thanks![/QUOTE]At World, girls are full naked even when it is cold in Winter, out of Tuesday. At Prestige Neunkirchen also full naked. At Sharks or Mainhattan, many are full naked.

At YY or GT, some wear shorts or dessous.

[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;1836596]100% agree. For me its not the scar that is the issue, it's the feel. My last trip I had 2 sessions (out of 20) with girls who had implants. Neither had crazy large (ie sillies), but rather they both looked very well done, but the touch factor was completely wrong. I much prefer the feel of a natural small breast than a larger enhanced one.[/QUOTE]For me it is everything, I do not fancy silicone or plastic surgery. Some guys love big fake tits though.

I do like big natural tits on thin body. I had some luck in FKK, but very rare.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1836561]My English is that bad, huh? I need to re-take some English classes I barely passed. LOL.

I was happier in De. I was being a bit wordy since people are of different circumstances and experience things different due to preference. Just in consideration of those.



Your Hungary report was one of the best reads. Any recent ones? If you write a FKK report like the Hungry one, that would be a fun read I think.[/QUOTE]Dear PL,

I was in Lviv last month and I had a rookie mistake and my 130 Euro and 1 bottle of cognac was stolen by a Stripper from my hotel room.

Maybe if I am in a good mood this week I can write this story.

I will apply Schengen Visa this week and will hit Germany in the end of the month.

Hope we meet in real.

Regards.

[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;1836596]100% agree. For me its not the scar that is the issue, it's the feel. My last trip I had 2 sessions (out of 20) with girls who had implants. Neither had crazy large (ie sillies), but rather they both looked very well done, but the touch factor was completely wrong. I much prefer the feel of a natural small breast than a larger enhanced one.[/QUOTE]I don't mind silicones somewhat soft(visually better than really small, maybe close to flat), and I take it there is varying degrees to it as I wasn't exaggerating when I said "rock hard." It felt pretty much like there were bowling balls inside even, and it was the first time I've encountered such hardness with implants, hence I meant the worst (and the hardest). Nothing against the girl, she was very nice, pretty faced Ro, but the hardness of the tits affects how I feel with the girl a bit I realized.

If you look at them when they bulge out, you know there is stiffness to them to shape in such a unnatural conical shape, like gravity hardly affects them. Even if it's not rock hard-like, there is still that unnatural feel that is so different from the natural.

Close to flat is something difficult find to be feminine for me(visually It affects attraction). Ideally B+ to C suits me well. Bigger is better than small of course. D-cups do stand out too.

I've seen girls with tops on looked appealing do to her face, but then when she had her top off, the small tits had a good impact in how I perceived her to be attractive. Sometimes even a girl that would be pretty faced, but the tits would be not well shaped. So, I think tits do have an affect on how beautiful as a whole. But, I am most affected by face as I've taken girls with bodies not well sculpted or to a fairly close to ideal, small tits even.

I think being affected by face is quite reasonable. In general, face is how we perceive people on the shell. It even has some probability of the girl's attitude or friendliness with face as some people just naturally look friendlier due to how their facial features are. Although, how we are conditioned to find what type of face(make prejudice or find pretty) is due to our experiences with people we've encountered in the past. I think we sometimes get a feel of which girl just fits right and there is some physical features that has the affect on it when scanning around. Better your instincts are, the higher the outcome of course.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1836746]Dear PL,

I was in Lviv last month and I had a rookie mistake and my 130 Euro and 1 bottle of cognac was stolen by a Stripper from my hotel room.

Maybe if I am in a good mood this week I can write this story.

I will apply Schengen Visa this week and will hit Germany in the end of the month.

Hope we meet in real.

Regards.[/QUOTE]That sucks. I'd be interested in knowing what happened in the storytelling way like the Budapest story. Your Budapest story is kinda funny in a way, but no joke either, some risk elements there. You are a lot more adventurous than I. With the Visa, you'd be punteing a more controlled environment, De.