Kyiv

Who can provide any contact information about prostitutes not listed on Internet? Any beautiful prostitutes on streets? or in brothels?

I've been in contact with a couple of ladies on mamba.ru about a travel companion (maybe Cuba or Egypt). I'm going to be visiting Kiev next month and planned on meeting them in person (make sure I know what, and who!! :-), I'm getting into).

Has anyone done this before? What is a reasonable rate? I figure if the girl gets a free vacation with a nice guy that she likes, then $1000/wk is a decent gig for her. Anything more than that I start to think, why not just visit Kiev and spend the $1k, plus the extra vacation costs, on takeout at RP everynight. Or do I even need to pay her? Maybe a free vacation is enough?

[QUOTE=Fijiman]I've been in contact with a couple of ladies on mamba.ru about a travel companion (maybe Cuba or Egypt). I'm going to be visiting Kiev next month and planned on meeting them in person (make sure I know what, and who!! :-), I'm getting into).

Has anyone done this before? What is a reasonable rate? I figure if the girl gets a free vacation with a nice guy that she likes, then $1000/wk is a decent gig for her. Anything more than that I start to think, why not just visit Kiev and spend the $1k, plus the extra vacation costs, on takeout at RP everynight. Or do I even need to pay her? Maybe a free vacation is enough?[/QUOTE]Travel companion I have never tried, but from what I know the cost of the holiday itself is enough, you don't have to give her any money cash. But she expects that you take her to restaurants, pay her drinks, etc. so that everything is free for her. And she would expect some shopping as well on your expense. So all this may quickly add up to USD 1000 extra. How much fun you get will greatly depend on how you "click", therefore to have a meeting in Kiev before and preferably also a test ride is an excellent idea! If not you may risk up sharing the hotel room with somebody and there is mutual hatred:)

Fiji don't have direct experiance with that program but have russian friends who do it often.
Destination: Cuba will cost you more so choose either Egypt or Turkey.
Also Thailand is popular - no visa for russian citizens if staying up to 15 days.
There's better place than mamba, a special site for "sex holiday companions" but forgot the which is it.
You don't need to pay her for her time. You pay for transport costs and accommodation, food and drink. But there will be some who wants you to pay for this plus her time. At the hotel you can stay in the same room or separate rooms. If separate rooms stay in the same hotel and same floor. Most Russians take the open versions. Spend everyday together, then after 3-4-5 days you can say the girl you will see he only in the evening (for sex) and she's free during the day. This will require to give her some pocket money per day like 50-100$ or more depending what you agree. This way you can meet some other girls and bring them to your room (good side of separate room). But it will also mean she can meet some other guy and spread her legs for him in her separate room. The best is to agree about everything in advance so no problem later. If you don't speak russian it can be problematic.
Most Russians do it like this. Take the girl to holiday, take her separate room on HER name, pay the room day by day. If there's no chemistry it's easy to dump her. Also if she banged some local Turk or Arab many Russians use this as good reason to dump the girl.
For you can be much better option to spend that money in Kiev and go to Turkey or Egypt on your own since most probably you can meet Kiev girls right there if they are alone. But it looks they rarely are.

Hi,

I have been travelling along the trans Siberian railway route and am finishing the trip in Kiev.

I am hoping to finishing the trip on a high by a visit to River Palace. Can someone advise the best time to arrive to pick up girls, not wanting to turn up to early.

Cheers,

Coogee

[QUOTE=Coogee]Hi,

I have been travelling along the trans Siberian railway route and am finishing the trip in Kiev.

I am hoping to finishing the trip on a high by a visit to River Palace. Can someone advise the best time to arrive to pick up girls, not wanting to turn up to early.

Cheers,

Coogee[/QUOTE] And even at that it maybe a bit early. Having said that, I showed up up one night at 23:00 and the disco was dead so I tried the sports bar downstairs and the place was full of talent. Go figure

Thanks for the detailed reply Kurenda!

I have become a regular visitor to Kiev, going once every 3 months but as yet I have yet to seen any streetwalkers. My contacts thus far have been via Russianeuro, most want love and long term commitment but I manager to deal with that issue. I have stayed at hotel Lybid and there was some action in the bar, normally 2 or 3 each night, the hotel President I met some in the lobby however there is a lapdancing club downstairs with plenty of meat. Hotel Opera is expensive and no action in the bar or lobby. The Hyatt also seemed very quite.

Kiev being the city of plenty must have streetwalkers somewhere, so any info? I love picking up streetwalkers, I have had some very good experiences worldwide at very good rates, I know... there are some horror stories of junkies but I avoid those.

Trade

The Hyatt and Opera - that's the hotel in Podil, right? Don't allow girls to solicit on their properties. However neither has a problem with the deal being closed there.

For streetwalkers search the forum.

[QUOTE=Kris420]Hi,

I am wondering if one of russian language experts on the site could convert the following messages into russian (of course written in English?).

I just started learning a bit of russian, this would help me when I am in Kiev.

Thanks in advance.

1. Would like to join me for a dinner?
2. Could you come to my apartment?
3. How much do you charge per night?
4. How much do you charge per day?
5. How do you say (100, 200, 300, 400, 500 etc.)
6. Do you do oral without condom?
7. My apartment address is ...
8. My phone number is ...
9. What is your address / phone number?
10. What is your name?
11. Can we go to a restaurant?
12. You are beautiful
13. When will you come to my apartment?
14. I will wait for you
15. Speak slowly[/QUOTE]Man use always these words

Privet =Hi pronounces privyet

Kak ti? How are you

She will say normalna= good, horosho=good dobre=good

She will say also a ti kak? And how are you? You answer same if you wanna say bad=ploha pronounces plokha

Money= denge

How much=skolka

How much do you want from me? Skolka ti hotit z miney

Your free? Ti svobodna

Busy? Zanyata

Wait=jdu

I wait you down = ya jdu tebya znivu

What do you want to drink= shto ti hotit pit, hotit is pronounced khosish

Hello folks!

Have been reading the Ukraine treads back and forth and can't seem to make any sense on how to approach my 3 day visit in December. Still have no definitive plan for finding punani.

Did read this one for example but still have some questions.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=885319#post885319[/url]

Found some girl on Flirt.com.ua, but they all seems like time consuming projects, or extreme wild cards at best. The ring on my finger rules out most of the girls in such sites.

Also noticed the escort sites that flourish here, and they too seem to be wild cards at times. Lets say you seniors need to pick one site/source. Which one would this be?
My readings here points towards [url]http://www.gia.com.ua/[/url] or [url]http://www.top-models.com.ua/[/url] being the most reliable. As long as one does the “real photo, search for her number”-routine as described by Poisson1.

Other sites I found here are:
[url]http://www.realsex.com.ua/[/url]
[url]http://www.vodkaescort.com/[/url] (Odessa based)
[url]http://www.vip-kiev.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.vip-models.com.ua[/url]

Discretion is a must for me so places like River Palace or hotel lobby's are pretty much out of the picture. Best would be just to sneak of somewhere and if possible select a beauty from a line of girls, and just do the deed there and then. Or just a visit to a safe massage place or apartment.

I do expect one evening free from my company, so to have one recommended and known girl to call would be fantastic. I'm financially very secure, in my mid 30s and look decent, so no need to PM me the numbers of old and washed out smoking train wrecks. :-)

In all honesty I am always generous with information about the areas and girls/phone numbers I know anything about, and will always hook up any decent fellow monger that runs in to me on ”my turf”. My hopes are that what goes around comes around, and I will get a couple of good and uncommon advices on Kiev. Have a few trips planned for Ukraine coming months but it all depends on the “level of fun”, so a failure to hook up with a girl I can see regularly in Kiev would be depressing. 100-150 Euro for 1-2 hours might be overpaying but I'll gladly for that up for a cute young girl with a good and friendly attitude. I did however notice that the price range seem to start at ~30-40 Euro for a provincial hour of sign language.

As you guessed, my Russian sucks. But normally I can communicate with a girl anyway as long as she knows what we are on the bed for.

Most appreciative for any help with numbers or places to visit.

All the best from Barba

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1. Would like to join me for a dinner? - Ty hochesh' pouzhinat' so mnoj?

2. Could you come to my apartment? - Ty mozhesh' pridti v moju kvartiru?

3. How much do you charge per night? - Skol'ko ty beresh' za noch'? or Skol'ko budet stoit noch' s toboj?

4. How much do you charge per day? - Skol'ko ty beresh' za den'? or Skol'ko budet stoit' celyj den'?

5. How do you say (100, 200, 300, 400, 500 etc.) - Sto, dvesti, trista, chetyresta, pyat'sot

6. Do you do oral without condom? - Ty delaesh' minet bez prezervativa?

7. My apartment address is ... - Moj adres

8. My phone number is ... - Moj nomer telefona

9. What is your address / phone number? - Kakoj tvoj adres, kakoj tvoj nomer telefona?

10. What is your name? - Kak tebja zovut?

11. Can we go to a restaurant? - My mozhem pojti v restoran?

12. You are beautiful - Ty krasivaja or Ty prekrasno vyglyadish'

13. When will you come to my apartment? - Kogda ty pojdesh' v moju kvartiru?

14. I will wait for you - Ja budu tebja zhdat'

15. Speak slowly - Govori medleno

[QUOTE=Coogee]Hi,

I have been travelling along the trans Siberian railway route and am finishing the trip in Kiev.

I am hoping to finishing the trip on a high by a visit to River Palace. Can someone advise the best time to arrive to pick up girls, not wanting to turn up to early.

Cheers,

Coogee[/QUOTE]Midnight would be the best time. If the night club is not busy yet, you can go downstairs to the sports bar. There are many girls there as well. If you're in a hurry and want to save time, you can arrive there at 1 a.m. The place would be packed with all types of girls and you can choose the one you want.

[QUOTE=Barba]Hello folks!

Have been reading the Ukraine treads back and forth and can't seem to make any sense on how to approach my 3 day visit in December. Still have no definitive plan for finding punani.

Did read this one for example but still have some questions.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=885319#post885319[/url]

Found some girl on Flirt.com. Ua, but they all seems like time consuming projects, or extreme wild cards at best. The ring on my finger rules out most of the girls in such sites.

Also noticed the escort sites that flourish here, and they too seem to be wild cards at times. Lets say you seniors need to pick one site/source. Which one would this be? My readings here points towards [url]http://www.gia.com. Ua/[/url] or [url]http://www.top-models.com. Ua/[/url] being the most reliable. As long as one does the "real photo, search for her number"-routine as described by Poisson1.

Other sites I found here are: [url]http://www.realsex.com. Ua/[/url] [url]http://www.vodkaescort.com/[/url] (Odessa based) [url]http://www.vip-kiev.com/[/url] [url]http://www.vip-models.com. Ua[/url]

Discretion is a must for me so places like River Palace or hotel lobby's are pretty much out of the picture. Best would be just to sneak of somewhere and if possible select a beauty from a line of girls, and just do the deed there and then. Or just a visit to a safe massage place or apartment.

I do expect one evening free from my company, so to have one recommended and known girl to call would be fantastic. I'm financially very secure, in my mid 30s and look decent, so no need to PM me the numbers of old and washed out smoking train wrecks.

In all honesty I am always generous with information about the areas and girls/phone numbers I know anything about, and will always hook up any decent fellow monger that runs in to me on "my turf". My hopes are that what goes around comes around, and I will get a couple of good and uncommon advices on Kiev. Have a few trips planned for Ukraine coming months but it all depends on the "level of fun", so a failure to hook up with a girl I can see regularly in Kiev would be depressing. 100-150 Euro for 1-2 hours might be overpaying but I'll gladly for that up for a cute young girl with a good and friendly attitude. I did however notice that the price range seem to start at 30-40 Euro for a provincial hour of sign language.

As you guessed, my Russian sucks. But normally I can communicate with a girl anyway as long as she knows what we are on the bed for.

Most appreciative for any help with numbers or places to visit.

All the best from Barba

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I am personnaly focusing only on top-models and mamba. Ru and was quite successful in the last months. I have my personal approach and it seems to work for me.

1. Always invite the girls to my apartment (I do not take hotel rooms)

2. Always book them for 2 hours at least (more interesting/motivating for them)

3. When receiving them always offer something to drink and to eat (they appreciate you taking care of them).

4. Start with mamba. Ru at 6.00pm-7.00pm: best hunting time according to my experience.

5. On mamba. Ru always keep several options in parallel and decide then quickly. I found many english speaking students or semi-pros. I recently got a 21y old brunette student, 1m80 tall with a great body and great "skills".

6. If by 9.00pm you did not find anything on mamba, switch to top-models.

7. On top-models always check the "real photo", and the number. You can also use the sort by "date" (gives you most recent entries).

I can give you links to 2 I tested personnaly and got great experience. My Russian is close to 0 by the way.

- Lena: [url]http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=2213[/url]

- Ksusha: [url]http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=2412[/url]

Good luck

Poisson1, thank you!

Really good approach. I always feel best when I have a plan.

Do you only go for the pink ones, and the ones that are pink but will not fully admit it to themselves?

Did you buy a membership to gain access to the advanced search?

Regards,

Barba