Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=AboveAverage;2695546]The sex wasn't great because of how awkward we both were, and it kind of reinforced my opinion that I should be looking for girls who are older than barely 20.[/QUOTE]My second wingman is only into middle aged women, 30's, 40's, I think he delves into the lower 50's. He consistently extolls the virtues of these women's sexual techniques because they have experience. I believe him. He is a great wingman for me, because if they are 25, they are getting old, jeje.

You know you are in Medellin when my novia with out a trace of sarcasm and in all seriousness asked me on her twentieth birthday, "Am I getting too old for you?

I posted because I wanted to let you know, that there are young, 18-21 year olds out there who can blow your doors off with their sexual technique. I'm going to say the average age these chicas lose their virginity is 14. The culture is pretty much open to sexuality as being a natural, healthy part of life. Some, obviously not all, of these chicas are born naturals. I've had more than my fair share of first time P4P chicas, and they exhibited a range of experience and comfort level. On the one end I got schooled and shown stuff I sexually never experienced before, in a good way, and I've been around the block once or twice.

[QUOTE=AboveAverage;2695546]So I met up with a Facebook chica and onlyfans model yesterday who insisted that she usually doesn't do the prepago thing. At first I was skeptical but it was very believable due to how awkward she was.

One of the most unusual things was how insecure she is about her body. She is an incredibly gorgeous paisa around 20 years old but she still wants to get a nose job, boob job and butt job. I vehemently told her that her nose and butt are perfect, but she wasn't having it. She says that men in Colombia aren't interested in skinny and dark-skinned girls. It breaks my heart because here is a girl who has dozens or hundreds of subscribers on onlyfans who are constantly telling her how beautiful she is, yet she still feels the need to "upgrade" her body (which I think will be for the worse).

The sex wasn't great because of how awkward we both were, and it kind of reinforced my opinion that I should be looking for girls who are older than barely 20.

On the topic of Parque Lleras I never really had much luck there. I'm not into street walkers and the last time I went to Gusto, the girls I talked to were looking for $300 USD. Fuck that![/QUOTE]They probably give you gringo pricing at Gustos LOL I was there last month, ended up taking a pretty 24 year old girl. She asked for 700 kk all night but negotiated to 500 k. Maybe being Hispanic helps me LOL.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2695305] I ended up fucking a bull dyke lesbian. No kissing. No oral.[/QUOTE]I respect when someone reports the good and the bad. Just as long as it's not all bad, jajaja. Bull dykes give the best blowjobs, right up there with crack working girls, trannies, and toothless grannies.

The reason I know that about bull dykes is that Catgirl attracts them. She is petite and she gets her fair share of manly women. A few times she has told them to give me a blowjob, which they will do to please her. They were all very strong and forceful, the proverbial chrome off a trailer hitch. Unlike you, I never fucked one, just been sucked, jejeje. Oh, I am sure I have fucked my share of lesbians. We all have. Supposedly the percentage of female muff divers in the P4 P game is quite high. Add on top of that, MDE is considered very lesbo friendly.

[QUOTE=AboveAverage;2695546]One of the most unusual things was how insecure she is about her body. She is an incredibly gorgeous paisa around 20 years old but she still wants to get a nose job, boob job and butt job. I vehemently told her that her nose and butt are perfect, but she wasn't having it. She says that men in Colombia aren't interested in skinny and dark-skinned girls. It breaks my heart because here is a girl who has dozens or hundreds of subscribers on onlyfans who are constantly telling her how beautiful she is, yet she still feels the need to "upgrade" her body (which I think will be for the worse).[/QUOTE]Most women are like that. Instead of rolling with and being satisfied by who likes them, they think ALL people are suposed to like them or it does not mean shit. So, like your girl, they want to transform themselves into what they figure all people like. Which of course we know is not what all people like, especially when it is not natural.

What other kind of pricing is there at Gustos?

[QUOTE=Mechanic88;2695592]They probably give you gringo pricing at Gustos LOL I was there last month, ended up taking a pretty 24 year old girl. She asked for 700 kk all night but negotiated to 500 k. Maybe being Hispanic helps me LOL.[/QUOTE]

I will get this out of the way so I am not thinking about it after I arrive in MDE. Ally, the web cam model, already flaked on me. The first two days I suggested we get together she said she had to work 12 hours shifts. Okay. Then, when I said some time next week, she said she was going to be busy all week, traveling out of town to modeling school, and get this, her boss was "making" her go. WTF. Have to admit, I had not heard that one before, jeje. I can't really see her angle other than I have not been tipping her in her room and maybe I used up her good nature.

I'm glad she told me this far ahead compared to getting ghosted at the last minute. I promised you guys follow-up so here it is. That frees me up from the Internet because there are no more Web cam model prospects for this trip. Don't cry for me Argentina, I mean Colombia, I generally do better without plans. I thanked her for the fun we had on-line. I don't block chicas unless they are psycho or threatening. I delete their chats and stop responding.

Today, I changed my HVAC filter in my crawlspace, replaced a couple of LED bulbs, raked some mulch, did my USPS mail hold on-line, basically home-stretch stuff before boots on the ground Thu afternoon. Ostee Out.

Spot on with the quote from one of your novias! I had more than one chica ask me the same. At least she gets it. How many prepagos (not saying your novia was one) are on top of their game at 25?

I am also amazed at the sex an 18-21 YO can give. The quality of the BBBJ, the way they beg for CIM. Some say that chicas fuck older gringos only for money. And it is clear that some (many? Do), but I'm 56 and I've had my share of non-pros who seem to enjoy banging me. Maybe because I treat them kindly or because I am exotic to them. And even many of the pros seems to enjoy the sex and don't mind looking at my old ass as long as I'm satisfying them. I guess good oral can go a long way.

One strange thing I've noticed with some of my non-pros lately. They aren't into receiving oral. Whether it is they are embarrassed to have some guys face that close to their snatch. Or they think it's gross. Not sure. Some of they seem to much prefer a vibrator. Maybe they've become addicted to vibrators and think nothing else can do it for them. Also noticed some of these non-pros really jumpy when you even touch there ass hole (not penetrate, just try to rub it). But luckily they are the minority. I just find it strange, especially girls who do not like to receive oral.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2695565]

You know you are in Medellin when my novia with out a trace of sarcasm and in all seriousness asked me on her twentieth birthday, "Am I getting too old for you?

I posted because I wanted to let you know, that there are young, 18-21 year olds out there who can blow your doors off with their sexual technique. I'm going to say the average age these chicas lose their virginity is 14. The culture is pretty much open to sexuality as being a natural, healthy part of life. Some, obviously not all, of these chicas are born naturals. I've had more than my fair share of first time P4P chicas, and they exhibited a range of experience and comfort level. On the one end I got schooled and shown stuff I sexually never experienced before, in a good way, and I've been around the block once or twice.[/QUOTE]

What I fail to understand is why any guy (other than perhaps guys from the middle east or China) would pay to watch some nude chick on a webcam. With all of the free porn out there?

When girls want to send me fotos and pics for money, I always decline. I tell them I want the real thing. They seem puzzled. I am puzzled that anyone would pay for those things. Can anyone explain it to me (beyond lack of access for some guys or culture)?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2695366]Much of what you wrote is dead on, and also absolutely wrong. I've been over this a few times before, so I'll try to keep it short.

I spent most of a year sharing an apartment with a webcam model, who I've now known for 6 years. I spent most of a year working directly for 3 webcam studios. I've met face to face with dozens of webcam girls and several times was in a room with up to 20 of them, including a few of the top webcam models in Colombia. I've had lunch meetings with anywhere from 2 to 6 webcam models. I've talked with studio owners, accountants, model managers, lawyers and international liaisons (one of which decided to become a webcam model). In short, I have some experience.

Most of the models who you are talking about (getting no tips, empty rooms, bored), aren't webcam models. Not yet. Most of them won't be around long, because it takes 6 weeks online 4-6 hours per day, to start making consistent money. It takes another month or more to cover basic living expenses. The girls who jump at the chance to meet are simply hookers that someone convinced to get on webcam. They don't have the patience to see it through. I tried with several prepagos.

So those girls, if you get to meet them, are no different than many of the hookers you can meet through other channels. Just find a girl, talk to her and ask if she's ever been on webcam. Many will say they have.

The webcam models who are making decent money, 4 k or more tokens each day, are more difficult. Meeting you is a risk. The dedicated webcam viewers will freak out if they know the girl met with someone else. I've seen this many times. It ruins the fantasy.

Paying for a webcam model to come see you is a mistake.

Using webcam as any source is a waste of time and money.

That's all for now.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2695712]What I fail to understand is why any guy (other than perhaps guys from the middle east or China) would pay to watch some nude chick on a webcam. With all of the free porn out there?

When girls want to send me fotos and pics for money, I always decline. I tell them I want the real thing. They seem puzzled. I am puzzled that anyone would pay for those things. Can anyone explain it to me (beyond lack of access for some guys or culture)?[/QUOTE]Web camming in interactive; porn is not.

It's a good thing that I like slender and dark skinned girls because I think they are seriously undervalued in this city.

I decided to go the more conventional route today and I looked up a girl on pasionprepagos. I saw a nice looking dark skinned girl and contacted her on WhatsApp. Her price was 140 for an hour which, honestly, is a bit of a turnoff for me for how cheap it is. She was available and I was looking for something right away so I took the plunge. I haven't been to Laureles before and I was discouraged by how far away it was but the uber was cheap so whatever. The town was a bit seedier than I cared for and it was difficult to find the address (both uber and Google failed to register the exact location). When I buzzed into the building I was greeted by an older lady and I realized it must have been her who was answering my texts. She told me the girl was in another building so we went outside again and I felt like I was being stared at by the locals in the mini-mart. We entered to building 2 doors down and I went upstairs to wait in a room. The room was clean but everything else about the building and neighborhood made me feel uncomfortable, like I was the only vulnerable gringo in a 2 mile radius. I started getting anxious and was regretting my decision until the girl entered.

Facially she was nothing special but her body was all natural and smoking hot. Her face wasn't visible in the online photos but everything else matched or exceeded expectations. She was very friendly and I think she legitimately found me attractive. She was very energetic in bed and we went at it until my heart nearly exploded from exhaustion. I collapsed for a bit and she gave me an awesome proper massage, until I finally had the energy to finish what I started. After finishing in doggy I collapsed again, then we cuddled and she enticed me to finish a second time which is very rare for me. I showered then left her with 250 and was gladly on my way.

Definitely the best sex of my trip so far, and less than half the price of the Loutron girl and the onlyfans model! You definitely need to keep a close eye on your wallet in that establishment though.

If you want a hint her name starts with V and you can find her profile with the info in my post.

[QUOTE=Mechanic88;2695592]They probably give you gringo pricing at Gustos LOL I was there last month, ended up taking a pretty 24 year old girl. She asked for 700 kk all night but negotiated to 500 k. Maybe being Hispanic helps me LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah I've never gotten such a strong "fuck off gringo" vibe in all my time in Colombia. I did notice that they were much friendlier with the Spanish speaking patrons at the bar.

Their loss though. They could have robbed me blind as I spent most of that night puking my guts out from food poisoning.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2695712]What I fail to understand is why any guy (other than perhaps guys from the middle east or China) would pay to watch some nude chick on a webcam. With all of the free porn out there?

When girls want to send me fotos and pics for money, I always decline. I tell them I want the real thing. They seem puzzled. I am puzzled that anyone would pay for those things. Can anyone explain it to me (beyond lack of access for some guys or culture)?[/QUOTE]It's not my thing either but there are at least 2 reasons why:

Exclusivity. Some guys like porn that's not widely available. This largely applies to xenophobic assholes (I'm looking at you Japan).

Connection. It's hotter to Jack off to something if you know the girl has personally given it to you. It's one baby step closer to actually having sex with that girl.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2695610]What other kind of pricing is there at Gustos?[/QUOTE]You mean for drinks? The pricing for chicas is totally what they decide. The night club has nothing to do with any of that. It's just a club where people can come to, and working girls happen to like it because it is right in the Lleras area and they can often find foreigners there who will pay big money.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2695712]What I fail to understand is why any guy (other than perhaps guys from the middle east or China) would pay to watch some nude chick on a webcam. With all of the free porn out there?

When girls want to send me fotos and pics for money, I always decline. I tell them I want the real thing. They seem puzzled. I am puzzled that anyone would pay for those things. Can anyone explain it to me (beyond lack of access for some guys or culture)?[/QUOTE]I can explain it, but you still won't understand.

As for why webcam instead of free porn, here's a question. Why would you go to a strip club when you can watch videos of strippers for free?

It's simple, the strip club is interactive. No matter how hard you try, you're not going to be squeezing any titties watching the video. Now try watching some free porn, say "Hello, beautiful. How are you?" The free porn says "uunnnhh, uunnhh. " It's difficult to really carry on a conversation.

I don't do webcam anymore, other than dropping in to chat with my old roommate a few times each year. When I pop in and say Hello, she's excited that I'm there. Several of her regulars who have been watching her for years, greet me. We all talk and joke and it's a fun 15-20 minutes. 20 minutes of porn is just boring.

It's easy to lump everyone who watches webcam into one group, call them sad or pathetic, and laugh at them. You can do the same with ISG. However, you get all kinds. There are guys on ISG who couldn't get laid with a fistful of $100 bills in a $5 *****house. Other guys could get laid in a convent on Easter, wearing a kippah.

Trying to understand why others do things you don't like is an exercise in futility. Look at it this way. For the amount of money many guys spend on webcam models, they could be coming to Medellin and competing with you for your girls. Instead they're paying for the webcam girls to come out and party, where you might just pick one up.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2695685] I'm glad she told me this far ahead compared to getting ghosted at the last minute. I promised you guys follow-up so here it is. That frees me up from the Internet because there are no more Web cam model prospects for this trip. Don't cry for me Argentina, I mean Colombia, I generally do better without plans. I thanked her for the fun we had on-line. I don't block chicas unless they are psycho or threatening. I delete their chats and stop responding.
.[/QUOTE]Very much agree on appreciating the notice. Nothing frustrates me more than being ghosted the last minute or some excuse that is stretched out from 7 pm to 10 pm and ruins the night.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2695752]You mean for drinks? The pricing for chicas is totally what they decide. The night club has nothing to do with any of that. It's just a club where people can come to, and working girls happen to like it because it is right in the Lleras area and they can often find foreigners there who will pay big money.[/QUOTE]I believe what Knowledge was referring to was that everybody knows that the girls in Gusto's ask for lots of money, meaning "gringo pricing", compared to the other venues in town, hence there is no other pricing schemes relative to the girls who work out of the establishment as he wasn't referring to the costs of drinks.

It's a perfect place for high rollers coming onto town for a few days staying at the Charlee Hotel within a 100 yards of Gustos.

I can envision the smarter working girls in Gustos inquiring as to where a guy is staying, and if they say the Charlee Hotel, they probably quote an even higher amount, as the Charlee Hotel is not a cheap place to stay at.

I suspect a lot of the guys who are "high rollers", are clueless as to how inexpensive girls can be in Colombia, but doesn't matter to them as its chump change to them.

Gustos is a perfect venue for some, depending on how they roll.