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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1248867]I then started thinking about the number of guys who come here for a riotous 2 or 3 weeks, pop a Viagra or Cialis or Andros (whether legitimate from a Pharmacy or whether from the street containing unknown ingredients) [B]every day or second day[/B], and then go out drinking all manner of alcoholic cocktails (beer, vodka + Red Bull, mixes of beer, shooters etc) and follow it up with an energetic romp with a EWR woman later in the night.

It seems to me that given the percentage of self-confessed unfit, over-weight mongers around, all these combos are quite lethal and need a bit more thought.

I wonder just how many mongers in AC or Manila or anywhere else actually drop dead whilst in the throes of pleasure. I imagine it doesn't make the newspapers if someone dies "peacefully" and from apparent natural causes with no suspicious circumstances. It also makes me think that some of the Obituary columns in "Harry the Horse" may well have been generated by guys both old and young taking uncontrolled doses of medication washed down by copious amounts of alcohol and then busting a fuse in the bed with a horny little bedmate for the night.

Food for thought I reckon.[/QUOTE]If ya gotta go, not a bad way. Rather die in the saddle than wasting away in a hospital or nursing home.

[QUOTE=David_33;1249312]Circumcised, right?[/QUOTE]Either that or a red clown nose. LOL. There is also a correlation between global warming and a decline of the number of pirates in the Caribbean sea.

Just pulling your leg a bit now David, but in my belief cutting off the foreskin will have little effect on many STD:s, considering how they are transmitted. Personally I think the studies that I have seen either direct or in reference, either where done on to small groups and / or did not take cultural differences (behavioral patterns) into consideration. These reports seem to be selling something else than health. Given the cleverness of evolution one could wonder why uncircumcised men did not turn into circumcised men as time passed, but on the other hand we are constantly evolving so in 1000 years we might not even have dicks (how lucky are we not to live right now).

Some fractions of some cultures suggests that they practiced this "forever" for hygiene reasons, but "forever" is a puff in universe in this context. Cutting of the foreskin can be seen as a revolution, I. E. A fast but manipulated evolution, and the motives or outcome of such, has little relevance in the unmerciful progress of natural selection.

In any case this topic has been discussed many times here and I do not want to start a storm of opinions again, so I blame Saturday boredom for this post and beg your indulgence and patience.

To contribute something substantial, other than possibly to refrain from buying a scalpel, I can advice bareback readers to try for example Alibaba. Com for instant STD tests. Buy 100 of some brand you find trustworthy, and you will be at least slightly more equipped to avoid catching something nasty.

[url]http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?SearchText=rapid[/url]+hiv+test&Country=&IndexArea=product_en&fsb=why.

All the best from Barba.

STD free with foreskin.

[QUOTE=Gangles; 1249271]. .

Maybe, just maybe, the risks that we get fed by various governments are deliberately over inflated, and there is some other cause for the continuous calls for safe sex.

Cause for some thought and serious statistical risk analysis.

G[/QUOTE]I am not clear why you feel the need to be such an advocate for bareback sex Gangles.

Your statistics of zero from 400 can probably be matched by someone here with 3 from 10.

Guys who get regular STIs are hardly likely to come on here and boast about it.

For me, statistics don't mean anything. Just one instance would be enough for me.

On Friday I learned about a 21 year old who developed Chlamydia that ended up as a major pelvic infection with complications and she has just had her uterus removed. She knows who gave it to her. It is not always all about the guy being protected. Women need protection too. In your case you are vasectomised so that eliminates one element of "risk" for you in that you know the woman will not get preggers.

I think it is more salutary to just do what you want rather than try to convince others to do what you do. Bit like missionaries really.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1249522]I think it is more salutary to just do what you want rather than try to convince others to do what you do. Bit like missionaries really.[/QUOTE]I want to add that I totally agree. I was raised in an era where we where thought to wear dry suits when we have sex so for me bareback, strange enough, is the unnatural state. But still the better of the two, of course. My post is not an attempt to motivate anyone to exchange condoms for rapid test kits. But IF you are going to do it, it is better to test yourself and the girl first. Some of these tests are the ones they use in clinics in some parts of the world. You can still miss an infection that did not develop (read up folks) , but doing a a test is better than nothing. And you get to play doctor as well.

Barba

[QUOTE=Ebauche;1249317]If ya gotta go, not a bad way. Rather die in the saddle than wasting away in a hospital or nursing home.[/QUOTE]If you read The Inquirer or other local papers in Phils, there are regular cases of guys popping their clogs, in Sogos and the other similar cases. You never know what happened in the room before you and honey were there. LOL

Hey there RK.

If you go back over my post, you will not find any advocacy on my part for barebacking. I said that I do it, but I did not suggest that you should do it.

I have a lot of applied statistics at post grad level, so all that I do is to post the numbers. No more.

But part of the reason why I do so is that so-called risk levels broadcast by governments do not add up when the actual numbers are revealed. That is, we are being deliberately fed incorrect information which is deliberately designed to promote fear in our communities.

And if you remember my earlier post about the psyche in western society is fear, this fits the pattern.

We are being kept in a state of continuous fear by our governments. And in my opinion, this is one kind of fear campaign that we do not need.

Do you remember the Grim Reaper campaign, to create unrealistic fear of AIDS in heterosexual couples? That was an utter disgrace, when the rate of infection among heterosexual couples, from sex only, is about 5 persons per year. That is negligible when compared with mortality rates from driving cars. Thousands per year.

However, I do admit that the concepts of applied statistics and risk analysis are a bit technical.

So what I am advocating is that you take a long hard look at the types of campaigns, such as safe sex, which are being promoted by governments.

G.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1249522]I am not clear why you feel the need to be such an advocate for bareback sex Gangles.

Your statistics of zero from 400 can probably be matched by someone here with 3 from 10.

Guys who get regular STIs are hardly likely to come on here and boast about it.

For me, statistics don't mean anything. Just one instance would be enough for me.

On Friday I learned about a 21 year old who developed Chlamydia that ended up as a major pelvic infection with complications and she has just had her uterus removed. She knows who gave it to her. It is not always all about the guy being protected. Women need protection too. In your case you are vasectomised so that eliminates one element of "risk" for you in that you know the woman will not get preggers.

I think it is more salutary to just do what you want rather than try to convince others to do what you do. Bit like missionaries really.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gangles; 1249271]Having recently finished a short trip to the Phils (3 weeks) , I had my mandatory full scan for STI.

While there, I sexed 10 women, including 5 new ones. Result. Nil return.

This brings the total number of women that I have sexed bareback to about 400. I think that I have used a condom once or twice in my life. Never contracted any form of STI. And my regular doc, who expresses amazement at all of this, assures me that I can not be naturally immune to STI.

However, I have been nicked, so there is no risk of pregnancy.

Maybe, just maybe, the risks that we get fed by various governments are deliberately over inflated, and there is some other cause for the continuous calls for safe sex.

Cause for some thought and serious statistical risk analysis.

G[/QUOTE]I guess you have been lucky so far. Do not push it. Bareback sex with girls of unknown past definitely will put you at risk of catching something. Even with "regular " girls nothing is foolproof.

Most often you get other than HIV. I am sure all mongers have caught something at times. Some may never know because either they had no symptoms or took antibiotics. Many girls also do not know if they are infected because of no symptoms. Also it is a proven point that not everybody who has sex with infected person will catch it. Lot to do with personal resistance.

[QUOTE=Gangles; 1249271]Having recently finished a short trip to the Phils (3 weeks) , I had my mandatory full scan for STI.

While there, I sexed 10 women, including 5 new ones. Result. Nil return.

This brings the total number of women that I have sexed bareback to about 400. I think that I have used a condom once or twice in my life. Never contracted any form of STI. And my regular doc, who expresses amazement at all of this, assures me that I can not be naturally immune to STI.

However, I have been nicked, so there is no risk of pregnancy.

Maybe, just maybe, the risks that we get fed by various governments are deliberately over inflated, and there is some other cause for the continuous calls for safe sex.

Cause for some thought and serious statistical risk analysis.

G[/QUOTE]This is not so unusual. There are a lot of mongers out there who routinely go skinless. Those who use condoms rarely do so consistently. Pinays prefer it skinless with the load delivered inside as nature intended anyway. This is especially true if the guy is considered a boyfriend.

Some punters may recognise that my post contained "raw data", that is direct, immediate measurement.

This is priceless.

By the time a punter gets some so-called statistical data, the (government) agency which collected and / or published it, has usually processed it, adjusted it, corrected it, so that the punter is totally obstructed from making their own judgements.

And of course all governments have their own political agendas. For example, the Australian publishes numbers or reported HIV infections each year. These are about 1100 per year. And the implication is included in the press release that couples need to practice safe sex to avoid the risk of HIV / AiIDS. That is, a rate of 1100 per year in a population of 22 million. But the press releases never include the breakdown of reported cases into the relevant risk groups; that is male homosexuals, inteavenous drug users, and straight heterosexuals, practicing heterosexual sex. This last number is usually about 5. That is 5 cases in 22 million people, per year. That is effectively negligible risk. Why does the govt not publish this number? Because straight heterosexuals would no longer be afraid.

I would be interested to get other raw data from punters. How many women you think you have sexed, what percentage of those were bareback, whether you have contracted and STIs, and whether some of the women that you have sexed were marriage or long term relationships.

This could give us some real data to carry out some analyses, and to get some real truth.

This barebacking discussion is endless. The guys who bareback will continue doing so regardless of the risks. A quick trip to the african forum of ISG will offer ample evidence of that.

The endless supply of these spunky knights without shining armor makes it important for the rest of us to protect ourselves.

I got chlamydia twice when I was young and it was a double warning message reminder to keep the shields up. I feel much better with a condom on, both physically (it makes me last longer) and of course emotionally (knowing to be protected).

The most annoying STD for me is actually the. Common cold and flu! First thing that happens when I travel to a new area and meet a new damsel there, is to pick up her cold infection, and spend the next 3 days with running nose, sandpaper throat, headache and other ailments mockingly described by the ladies as "man-flu".

[QUOTE=Gangles; 1249648]Hey there RK.

If you go back over my post, you will not find any advocacy on my part for barebacking. I said that I do it, but I did not suggest that you should do it.

I have a lot of applied statistics at post grad level, so all that I do is to post the numbers. No more.

But part of the reason why I do so is that so-called risk levels broadcast by governments do not add up when the actual numbers are revealed. That is, we are being deliberately fed incorrect information which is deliberately designed to promote fear in our communities.

And if you remember my earlier post about the psyche in western society is fear, this fits the pattern.

We are being kept in a state of continuous fear by our governments. And in my opinion, this is one kind of fear campaign that we do not need.

Do you remember the Grim Reaper campaign, to create unrealistic fear of AIDS in heterosexual couples? That was an utter disgrace, when the rate of infection among heterosexual couples, from sex only, is about 5 persons per year. That is negligible when compared with mortality rates from driving cars. Thousands per year.

However, I do admit that the concepts of applied statistics and risk analysis are a bit technical.

So what I am advocating is that you take a long hard look at the types of campaigns, such as safe sex, which are being promoted by governments.

G.[/QUOTE]You are right on with your comments. Another issue is the liars. It is unfortunate actually. Doctors joke how 100% of patients lie when it comes to medical history. More and more gays and Bi's getting HIV are stating they are Hetero. They do not want the stima or judging that goes with gay sex.

They feel if they say they got it from hetero, people will be more accepting. Some of you claim to know heteros who caught HIV.

Do you really know them? Do you follow them 24/7? There are many closet gays, Bi's, and ladyboy lovers out there, that you would never guess are into that lifestyle.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1249522]. On Friday I learned about a 21 year old who developed Chlamydia that ended up as a major pelvic infection with complications and she has just had her uterus removed. She knows who gave it to her. It is not always all about the guy being protected. Women need protection too. In your case you are vasectomised so that eliminates one element of "risk" for you in that you know the woman will not get preggers.

I think it is more salutary to just do what you want rather than try to convince others to do what you do. Bit like missionaries really.[/QUOTE]On this point Red Kilt, I agree 1000. Filipinos are often frightfully ignorant when it comes to disease and treatment, not to mention the challenges they have in affording any kind of good health care.

When talking to a girl one time, she was telling me about an illness in her family and I asked if they were doing anything about it, and she told me of course "her cousin had taken an antibiotic right after getting sick." When I asked how long she had been on that course of antibiotics she said "oh, no, she only took one pill." This was considered normal treatment!

All too often these girls will do whatever a guy wants. So if your barebacking them, you are subject to all their past poor decisions and only further their risky behaviour.

[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1249971]The most annoying STD for me is actually the. Common cold and flu! First thing that happens when I travel to a new area and meet a new damsel there, is to pick up her cold infection, and spend the next 3 days with running nose, sandpaper throat, headache and other ailments mockingly described by the ladies as "man-flu".[/QUOTE]IMO, you are far more likely to catch a cold from someone on your International flight. Long hours spent couped up in tight quarters with bad air quality recirculating around and around with little or no filtering. Anyone sitting 10 rows away from you and coughing and sneezing there head off can spread flu germs throughout that tin can within a few hours. After the short incubation period the cold virus will appear once you have situated yourself in your destination Country making it seem like you contracted the flu from your first "new damsel".

Personally I bring Purell with me and wipe all the normal touchable surfaces including armrests, seat recline buttons, touch screen buttons and tray release knobs when I board. I reapply a copious amount of Purell to my hands after going to the bathroom on board since those CR's are a germ playground and are rarely sanitized, just lightly cleaned at best to look tidy. Not really a germaphobe just informed and like to minimize the risk. No telling what kind of sick slob sat in my seat a few days before me.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1250336]IMO, you are far more likely to catch a cold from someone on your International flight. Long hours spent couped up in tight quarters with bad air quality recirculating around and around with little or no filtering. Anyone sitting 10 rows away from you and coughing and sneezing there head off can spread flu germs throughout that tin can within a few hours. After the short incubation period the cold virus will appear once you have situated yourself in your destination Country making it seem like you contracted the flu from your first "new damsel".

Personally I bring Purell with me and wipe all the normal touchable surfaces including armrests, seat recline buttons, touch screen buttons and tray release knobs when I board. I reapply a copious amount of Purell to my hands after going to the bathroom on board since those CR's are a germ playground and are rarely sanitized, just lightly cleaned at best to look tidy. Not really a germaphobe just informed and like to minimize the risk. No telling what kind of sick slob sat in my seat a few days before me.[/QUOTE]Most often cold is caught from the damsel you met and DFk'd. First of all your resistance is not there because of long flight, lack of sleep. Combined with alcohol, smokey bar, sweaty girls and freezing air in bars your immune system is down. Bargirls fuck, DFK, BBBJ frequently. So if you are at risk for anything and everything. There are times I got a cold and there are times I did not get a cold.

So far I have not caught any STD's I know off from bargirls or normal girls from Phi, China, Thailand, cambo etc. Yes, I do bareback sometimes.

However I have caught Chlamydia, siphylis, Gono from normal American girls when I was young.

So I would say generally it maybe safe in asian countries or is it just LUCK!