Panama City

News flash: Contrary to all prior reports, the Hyatt has gotten in on the greed and is now charging a $15 Chica tax to bring a girl to your room. It's not nearly as bad as some others but it is a slippery slope indeed.

[QUOTE=Blicious;2055061]Long time lurker. Thanks for all the good info. Thought I would offer something important. I just spent the night in hyatt downtown and they have just introduced a $15/ night guest fee! Still better than most but be advised.[/QUOTE]I'll be back in PTY this week. Update on the $15 guest charge soon. May use Hotel Milan as an alternative. It's a block down from Veneto. Last time there no guest charges. Clean, remodeled, Wi-fi and $40. Not on par with the Hyatt, but a decent backup.

[QUOTE=Iasian;2055190]News flash: Contrary to all prior reports, the Hyatt has gotten in on the greed and is now charging a $15 Chica tax to bring a girl to your room. It's not nearly as bad as some others but it is a slippery slope indeed.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, well that just sucks and great info to know. I just wrote the hotel requested the same room I had last time with a bull crap story and inquiring within. It would add $105 to the trip cost if I bring home take out all 7 nights. As noted, not the end of the world but I think I'll try a multi pronged approach. I'm a cheap ass so I always like to come out ahead if possible in this game of mongering. Try to beat the hotel up and if they indeed are firm so be it. I expect to lose that battle due to the fact a few of you all reported it at the same time making it IMO not a random thing seems they are consistent with it and all of us are screwed. (Can't fight corporate, better luck on the black market).

So I will try to recoup the $15 on the playing field (Cash business, anything goes) I plan to beat down the hookers. Having got a few Romanians (the best negotiating hookers) to bend in Germany last week with one there actually giving up her pussy in a ' tax free natural way' IMHO these girls who can't afford a pot to ' you know what' in back home will have to somehow artificially incur or split the cost, be told no for drinks, be told no for tips and so on. Or maybe I will tell them with the $15 extra fee I can't really justify their rate however if they guarantee BBBJ pay the rate. A free 'rain of golden warm liquid'maybe . This cost will be passed on or split, somehow, one way or another either in bills or in service and if I fail I tried. I'm heaving the ball downfield, nothing to lose

I think we can beat them down guys, they are aware of the room fee addition too. Ill also tell the arrogant Colombians (at least they were last time) that I will find a cheaper Venezuelan (hated by Colombians) or a Cuban. They can all huddle up before they break for the line to snap the ball but there's always a crack, no pun intended, just need to find it.

Many thanks for the updates, sometimes I like a little added challenge. And if I am out $105 I agree with one of the flashers of this news that it isn't as bad as most just not a good thing.

I think one way around it, is when you book your reservation, book the room for 2 people.

A good hotel offers discretion, how do they know it's a working girl, maybe it's your girlfriend!

Just imagine if you arrive 1 day earlier than your significant other, and the hotel treats her like she's working.

I have no intentions of paying it, I have stayed there 10 times.

Long time lurker here. The $15 is real, they now allow you to bring only 1 chica in for free, and will have to pay $15 for each additional one that you bring in. From the sound of it, if you have repeating entrances then they don't need to be charged again, though that part is not confirmed.

BTW, they just explained all that to me last night.

[QUOTE=ParasiteKid;2055406]Long time lurker here. The $15 is real, they now allow you to bring only 1 chica in for free, and will have to pay $15 for each additional one that you bring in. From the sound of it, if you have repeating entrances then they don't need to be charged again, though that part is not confirmed.

BTW, they just explained all that to me last night.[/QUOTE]Is that one a day or one for your entire stay?

Lee.

[QUOTE=Lee;2055452]Is that one a day or one for your entire stay?

Lee.[/QUOTE]Hey everyone,

New to the board and thanks for all the tips. I stayed at the Hyatt the past two days and paid both days I brought a guest from Habanos. In Santa Clara now where the scene is dead. Heading back to the city today and plan to double up due to one day lost.

If anyone is here and wants to meet up let me know!

[QUOTE=LuvPanamaBabes;2055367]I think one way around it, is when you book your reservation, book the room for 2 people.
I have no intentions of paying it, I have stayed there 10 times.[/QUOTE]I have no intention of paying it either! Agree!

I got an email back very generic that guests were permitted. So, I called in and they 'accepted' my story of being there on a business trip and that I would have several guests as one of the reasons I booked there was that ' Cozy Corner' so that we could all have good internet and space to sit and relax to review the days conferences and showings. I also noted that since our group was spread out over a few hotels that Cozy Corner allowed for a guest to stay over. He did tell me booking thru the hotel and / or using Hyatt memberships would be better for all in the future. They avoid the booking fees that way. There is their $15 fee plus a few more bucks prob saved not paying commission to a booking site.

My sister who is loaded up with Hyatt crap booked the room in both our names (She knows my vice, I cancelled the Orbitz reservation and got her 5 minute lecture on condom usage) and am now at the mercy of the night clerk however the reservation was marked noting that the guest would have several visitors. I of course did not mention to her the use of the invisible condom that was used 3 times in Frankfurt, Germany last week and how good it felt

Now, I was still told that ' guests at times do need to show identification for the other guests security' and after 10 PM; ' for the added security of all the guests staying there they limit the number of guests to 1 person' which falls in line with some previous posts so based on that my hunch is no chica fees if you book for two people as noted by the quoted poster and bring just one guest up per night but as to bringing multiple girls home after hours it might be an additional fee based on his words. I only bring one anyway.

[QUOTE=ThaiSpice;2055587]Hey everyone,

New to the board and thanks for all the tips. I stayed at the Hyatt the past two days and paid both days I brought a guest from Habanos. In Santa Clara now where the scene is dead. Heading back to the city today and plan to double up due to one day lost.

If anyone is here and wants to meet up let me know![/QUOTE]I tried to sneak in with my chica but got rerouted to the desk where another monger was getting taxed (What's Up if you are on ISG). They put up a little sign at the reception desk regarding guest policy and fee.

[QUOTE=Lee;2055452]Is that one a day or one for your entire stay?

Lee.[/QUOTE]One per chica, so if you bring 3 different ones in one day, that will count as 3.

On a different note, one of the girls that I brought back happen to stay at the same hotel. However they were still charging the fee as they say it is room specific. Just got to play it smart and don't enter the hotel with chica at the same time, just ask her to come to your room later if you both are staying in Hyatt.

I hit up Panama City for a week. Cool city that seems the crossroads of the world that it is. The canal history and Casco Viejo old town are fascinating. The people nice and cosmopolitan and from all over. I felt save too. Good food and bars are abundant. It's like Miami without the Russians. Uber works great.

From a monger perspective it's a mixed bag. No trouble getting laid P4P but it's not like it's 24/7 action like Angeles City or Amsterdam.

Veneto is a be casino and I didn't spend too much time there. I did find a little Cuban who put out porn star sex I hooked up with a couple times.

Habanos scene is over the top. At 10-11 pm there are the better part of 100 gals there. 3/1 chica / dude ratio too. I like them slender and there are lots of big rears here but objectively tons of hotties. Anyone can find someone you think totally hot there. Service level is all over the place.

- I did TLN with seriously one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen. She was sweet and we went out dancing and crap first. She literally had been in Panama for 2 hours. Her and her friend flew in for a week from Colombia to make some cash. She has some tanning business or something and wanted to make $ for a new tanning bed. She's 21 and takes English classes year round and goes to University half ass too (think JC student in the US). Sex was OK, she tried but I don't think she had ever turned a trick before. Laughed when I asked if she would ever do pro work in her hometown of Medellin. Pics to follow.

- I had a slender Venezuelan who was nice until we got in the hotel room then immediately wanted to get me off and get the fuck out of there.

- had another Colombian from Bogota age 22 I met the night before who was a legit 9. Had a friend. Friend was hot to, call her a 7, slightly older 24. Friend texted to try to get me to do both of them but I was nervous of a rip off type of thing like the aforementioned babe from Caracas. Anyhow the 9 came over at 8 (early in other words) the next night. Was off the charts flirt, off the charts friendly, off the charts sexy. Fucked great, insisting I keep a finger in her ass the whole time (ever do that for 20-30 minutes multiple positions? Not easy). Paid for an hour, but she stayed for 2. She is (unlike the Medellin beauty) a legit Economic major at the Catholic university in Bogota. Been here 9 days since summer break started. Thinks she can save up $20 k in two months doing this while "traveling" this summer. I'll splurge on her and the friend tomorrow or the next day.

The Hyatt Place is nice and chica friendly as well described on these boards. That said, mongers are the minority there, tons of families and some awkward moments. It's not like you're in Pattaya or anything.

I popped into La Mayor and Boca? At 4 pm on a Fri. La Mayor was a normal strip joint totally empty. Boca was a dark dive bar full of 100 locals, half chicas half dudes. Talent on balance was low but there were some cuties. As the only gringo with minimal Spanish in a neighborhood where's e you got checked for guns on the way in I took a few deep breaths, a look around and left. Also, hell dark in there didn't help.

I'll try to upload some pics.

As for civilian experience, I am in my late 40's and married, in decent shape, no supermodel but cost isn't too much of an issue and I don't have the time or inclination to chase non-pros around in my limited time.

That said I had a couple of near misses here. One was a young Venezuelan girl in university here from what seemed to be a wealthy family back in Caracas. She approached me at a retail center and we got to chatting and went for a drink. I wasn't sure if I was going to score, get robbed, or get propositioned for a few hundred bucks but eventually a friend showed up. A young guy who was a friend not a boyfriend, not a brother, a friend or cousin or something. Then the situation, whether it be bad or good, fizzled away.

Another night I met a couple of late 20's gals in a hipster neighborhood bar who were studying for their graduate degrees and one of whom I hit it off with was a lawyer already. Neither were stunners but cute enough and the ass on the lawyer was dang nice. Lawyer girl wanted to hit it, and I probably should have, Especially after some of the texts she sent me after I got back to my hotel room. But P4P is must less complicated and risky at this point in my life so I passed but we supposed to meet for lunch tomorrow. Lord knows what will happen then.

Next day I got the Colombian 9 and the friend the 7 over at the Trump after switching hotels. They got screened by a doorman at the hotel lobby and I had to reg them - $100/ each! Fortunately I had registered my room for 2 so I got the hotel check in folks to drop it to just 1 x $100. Still sucks. Service at this hotel is great otherwise. Kind of a bummer too because these girls weren't working at Habanos that night, just partying with me (P4P) so could have dressed it down it a bit but had "Colombian hookers" written all over them.

Had 3.5 hours of sex, screwing around and partying in the room followed by I took them to a nice dinner downstairs. Got more looks than I would have liked. Kind of funny these girls are really sweet and fun but boy, the judgement level isn't the highest at times. Ordering random and copious amounts of strawberry daiquiri type drinks, hollering and laughing loud at a classy restaurant, popping mini bar bottles having one sip, and just a lot of desserts and crap. Heck they barely weigh 100 lbs each. Not being greedy or anything more just sort of naive. Anyhow they were fun and jovial and it was a good time.

Put them in a cab just after midnight. Got back up to the room and it looked like a bomb hit the place. 3 sets of condoms plus condom wrappers scattered all over the floor, furniture out of place, lots of bottles open. The hallmarks of a memorable night.

After the debauchery of the aforementioned night I took a day off.

Then the last night in town I gave Relax Oriental a try. No idea why Oriental is in the name by the way. The previous posts describe the access perfectly, in an oddly hidden mini mall off Via Argentina, a lovely leafy streety in a mature part of town filled with nice restaurants, cafes and pubs. Anyhow, the joint is total dump dive on the interior, like shit falling off the walls bad. When I walked in there was a little sitting area with a couple couches and the sweet 60 year old boss lady who ran the place along with 5 gals. 4 of which I just don't think I could have done really. That said you only need one and there was a pretty faced slender gal who was the one who spoke English. I immediately picked her. I worried in the 2 seconds before she got up that she'd be a wide ass but when she got off the couch but no such unluck.

Slender little pooch, about 5'8", from Medellin, beautiful face and smile, was halfway through a 3 month stay in Panama. Limited English, great tan and toned body with perky natural boobs. $60 bucks but you get what you pay for in terms of environment. Agreed to tip her for BBBJ though she never said an amount then we sucked and fucked for 20 minutes or so until I shot my wad in her. Was a great fuck. Smiled the whole time. Then gave me another 20 minute or so massage why by the way I had the choice of having sex or massage first. I went for sex.

Got her number so maybe meet again some time. Said she was 24 but looked a lot younger. I tipped her $40 which I figured $20 for the BBBJ and $20 just being a nice guy, but all in $100 to fuck a legit 19-20 year old 8 with an A+ attitude and body was well worth it despite the god awful environment.

If you go to the hotel site directly they now have the hooker policy on the site albeit well written as if it is an Orlando resort. Pretty cut and dry, almost, the expression ' subject to adult pricing' leaves the door open to explain to the manager that the girl doing the walk of shame is your long lost 2nd cousin from Cali and you were just reunited and you are extremely upset they view her as a lady of the night as you feel their guest policy is to keep undesirables out and are extremely insulted they view your family member as such. Good luck explaining how in 7 days you were reunited with seven cousins. This is like the new German sex laws a bunch of BS except more enforceable than a BBBJ.

Please Note: Guests at this location are considered children between the ages of 0 and 12. Any guest 13 years of age or older will be considered an adult and will be subject to adult pricing. '.