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[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2774862]Didn't Jalimon or someone mention some fallout recently? I drop in once in a every month or so to read reviews. I couldn't find any XO girls' reviews. Seems crazy since XO has been one of the top MTL agencies for several years.

Most of us know the green board has it's odd peculiarities and it seems the site owners allow the moderators to perpetuate them. The mods are far too meddlesome and edit or delete fairly innocuous comments at their whim. It's now kind of fun to watch the mods there try to fuck with one of their former sponsors. I always thought XO, Euphoria and Vogue didn't need the green board to thrive.[/QUOTE]If you go in Incall section (wich is what Xo does mostly these days with few exeptions) there is reviews. They allow reviews of anyone, not only just advertisers. Otherwise the board would really loose A TON of its purpose.

Now that said, I have been censored multiple times on the Green board. You are not even allowed to talk about rates and screening anymore wich is laughable. You can't talk about Twitter either. The moderation has always been overboard in my opinion but it has gotten worst the past few years. Fred Zed is not Fred Zed anymore either (dude passed away). I would like to know who own the board and who are the mods but they keep these secrets tied.

On the Xo situation specifically its a bit weird. Xo mentioned on their twitter that they had issues with them allowing certain bad reviews that were made only to "dirt" them. I know for a fact from a time where a "blue board clone" (not here obviously) existed that Xo had some big haters. Maybe competition or clients they banned for various reasons, no idea, but the hate was strong. Now that being said my personal issue with the greens is the censorship and not being allow to talk enough about very important topics. So kinda like the opposite of what Xo has against them.

In any case, ultimately Xo (and likely Euphoria too for sure, maybe even VOG as you say) clearly do not need them to make $. Their reputation has been done and they are always almost fully booked very early. Avertising there always meant that your agency was legit, not a fraud, GFE (unless specified differently) and just overall safe. After winning 6 or so years in a row of best agency, I think they don't need more. They can thrive of their current clients for many more years.

I don't want to remove anything off other agencies, I had great services myself from them, but winning when the champ does not compete pretty much is the equivalent of entering a competition for second place. Euphoria has always been a rather solid agency. Mostly due to James exeptional services. They always had a chance to win even if they finish 2nd every year. I think they will win by default this year. Vog will be 2nd and a smaller agency will snatch 3rd place. Its easy to predict. Altough it may be cool to see a small agency get 3rd place, it would had been much better to see Xo and Euphoria go head to head again.

[QUOTE=Artvand1;2762164]After a lot of research and screening, I finally got to see an indy here. Being non-Caucasian I am grateful an indy saw me, but the experience has not been great. The reviews on the Montreal green board about this provider were great. Folks mentioned she did DFK, CIM, and BBBJ. But all I got was LFK, CBJ and a HJ. I know like everything in life, ymmv. But before folks say it depends on your hygiene, trust me I am pretty clean. I showered and throughly mouthwash before reaching the incall location and again after reaching I shower and mouthwash. If anything, found the SP not that clean tbh.

I would appreciate any comments from folks who had similar experiences. And any pointers on how to book in the future.[/QUOTE]I live in Montreal and frequently hobby here. Being a brown guy, I have never faced any race-specific discrimination from indies / agencies, and I have seen girls from both humpchies and the green board. Some escorts on humpchies exclude black men, but most reputable indies do not discriminate. Without knowing the name of the girl you saw, I can only guess that it's a problem with that specific girl or maybe she was just having a bad day.

If an escort is biased against or makes it a policy to exclude certain races, they would usually ask for your "appearance" in the booking email and / or explictly mention it in their ad.

If you're in Montreal as a visitor, booking indies might be difficult as it requires planning ahead. I would recommend to check out reputed agencies lile Vog / Euphoria / XO, or the high-mileage massage places like Amazing Thai Spa / YPG / Adagio / the 2214 if the agencies are all booked.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2775379]I do not have any problems booking outcalls staying in a Montreal AirBnB. I would recommend staying in the center. I like the area around Concordia University. It's conveniently between the green and orange metro lines. There is a young, hip crowd centered around Rue Sainte-Catherine. Let's say you won't go hungry or thirsty. If you think you have game with the under 30 civilian girls, it's a target rich environment.

Of course, you can always reach out to Vogue to confirm they are cool with AirBnBs. I don't see any "hotels only" policy anywhere.

Yes, the summer festivals are great. Besides the music and street festivals, don't forget the big comedy festival in July. A who's who of comics drop into Montreal to perform.

One might say avoid January through March unless you enjoy hockey, but there other things to consider. The girls might not be as booked up because a drop in tourists. The cost of lodging definitely drops. The St. Patrick's Day parade can be fun.

Having said that all, if you want to have a great vacation the summer months in Montreal can't be beat.[/QUOTE]I agree that asking is better than speculation. However, the inability to pay for a 100 a night hotel is exactly the reason the services rules people out. People who cannot afford a decent hotel are very likely not able to afford an escort or by experience likely to be poor customers (like cancelling an appointment). Good clients attracts better girls which creates a positive feedback loop. Girls have no incentive to pay an agency that wastes their time. That is why the better girls become independents. They have good paying regulars and don't have to share their fees.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2775379]I do not have any problems booking outcalls staying in a Montreal AirBnB. I would recommend staying in the center. I like the area around Concordia University. It's conveniently between the green and orange metro lines. There is a young, hip crowd centered around Rue Sainte-Catherine. Let's say you won't go hungry or thirsty. If you think you have game with the under 30 civilian girls, it's a target rich environment.

Of course, you can always reach out to Vogue to confirm they are cool with AirBnBs. I don't see any "hotels only" policy anywhere.

Yes, the summer festivals are great. Besides the music and street festivals, don't forget the big comedy festival in July. A who's who of comics drop into Montreal to perform.

One might say avoid January through March unless you enjoy hockey, but there other things to consider. The girls might not be as booked up because a drop in tourists. The cost of lodging definitely drops. The St. Patrick's Day parade can be fun.

Having said that all, if you want to have a great vacation the summer months in Montreal can't be beat.[/QUOTE]BIG COMEDY FAN!

Will definitely look out for that! Looks like the summer will be my time to go!

It's been 3 years since I been back so will be fun to check out the city and be a tourist again. Hopefully this time around the girls I'm looking forward arent booked.

I'm rather fond of the petite french quebec girls.

[QUOTE=JosephBrenner;2775457]On the Xo situation specifically its a bit weird. Xo mentioned on their twitter that they had issues with them allowing certain bad reviews that were made only to "dirt" them. I know for a fact from a time where a "blue board clone" (not here obviously) existed that Xo had some big haters. Maybe competition or clients they banned for various reasons, no idea, but the hate was strong. Now that being said my personal issue with the greens is the censorship and not being allow to talk enough about very important topics. So kinda like the opposite of what Xo has against them.[/QUOTE]The irony of the clash between the green board and XO is not lost. I have to wonder if there is something more going on behind the scenes.

I say this because the green board usual shills are quite noticeable in launching new agency girls. You would have to wait for more reviews to come in from objective players to honestly gauge new girls. So basically it appears the shills get first crack at the new girls with the agency knowing they will help launch their escort career. It even seems that being aware of the shill's importance some of the girls provide better service to them. You know the typical response "She provided intense DFK to me. Sorry chap, you know YMMV."

The green board has also been known to remove poor reviews for girls. This is particularly true if they leave the business for awhile and come back. Even when they change names and move around their erratic service tends to resurface and their reputation haunts them.

[QUOTE=Akibono;2775512]I agree that asking is better than speculation. However, the inability to pay for a 100 a night hotel is exactly the reason the services rules people out. People who cannot afford a decent hotel are very likely not able to afford an escort or by experience likely to be poor customers (like cancelling an appointment). Good clients attracts better girls which creates a positive feedback loop. Girls have no incentive to pay an agency that wastes their time. That is why the better girls become independents. They have good paying regulars and don't have to share their fees.[/QUOTE]I would not suggest that there was an issue booking Montreal outcalls to an Airbnb unless this is actually known.

If you book an Airbnb in the center of Montreal, you will likely be in a high-rise. The agency will easily be able to determine this. True, some of the Airbnb's interiors are more austere than others. The agency will not know what you are paying. You can easily spend over $100 a night. Many of us book Airbnb's because we like the comfort and space. I don't even cook. Though I have brought back carryout.

If one was staying away from the center in a walk-up apartment, the agency might balk for a variety of reasons including security.

[QUOTE=AnwarFarzad;2775488]I live in Montreal and frequently hobby here. Being a brown guy, I have never faced any race-specific discrimination from indies / agencies, and I have seen girls from both humpchies and the green board. Some escorts on humpchies exclude black men, but most reputable indies do not discriminate. Without knowing the name of the girl you saw, I can only guess that it's a problem with that specific girl or maybe she was just having a bad day.

If an escort is biased against or makes it a policy to exclude certain races, they would usually ask for your "appearance" in the booking email and / or explictly mention it in their ad.

If you're in Montreal as a visitor, booking indies might be difficult as it requires planning ahead. I would recommend to check out reputed agencies lile Vog / Euphoria / XO, or the high-mileage massage places like Amazing Thai Spa / YPG / Adagio / the 2214 if the agencies are all booked.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much for the info, AnwarFarzad! Much appreciated. Like you mentioned the girl might have been having a bad day. And like you said booking an indy if I am only visiting Montreal has been difficult. I did not try indies up until recently as I was not sure if they would have any inhibitions seeing a brown guy, buy tried two as a last resort. I did a trip report a few posts below and yeah like you said I tried reputed agencies. I booked a girl from Euphoria and a girl from Sensation and boy I was blown away by their services. They were very nice, accommodating and provided excellent GFE. Probably the best I had so far outside FKKs in Germany. Will probably stick to them and good to know you have not faced any discrimination. I think I am too conscious / paranoid that way LOL. Thanks again!

[QUOTE=JosephBrenner;2775457]
In any case, ultimately Xo (and likely Euphoria too for sure, maybe even VOG as you say) clearly do not need them to make $. Their reputation has been done and they are always almost fully booked very early. Avertising there always meant that your agency was legit, not a fraud, GFE (unless specified differently) and just overall safe. After winning 6 or so years in a row of best agency, I think they don't need more. They can thrive of their current clients for many more years.

I don't want to remove anything off other agencies, I had great services myself from them, but winning when the champ does not compete pretty much is the equivalent of entering a competition for second place.[/QUOTE]The shame is really more for the girls of XO and any indies who do not have ads on the green board. As you mentioned, XO will be fine. Everyone knows them. The awards are very useful for the girls, should they continue in this career. But, it's been crazy to have a vote for best girls when all the XO girls are off the vote list.

My experience in MTL as a brown guy is very good. MTL is still on top of my list for best service and best quality of providers.

As a brown guy, I never felt any discrimination or bad service.

Rather, I always had best service in MTL and providers themselves referred me to other providers and suggested 3 somes.

Only once I had incident where one provider (highly reviewed and one of the top provider) who said NO to brown client after making appointment, so I had to make another plan.

I just assume she had bad experience with brown client before my appointment, so she changed her policy.

As AnwarFarzad said this maybe one off experience but IMP, MTL providers are one of the best.

[QUOTE=AnwarFarzad;2775488]I live in Montreal and frequently hobby here. Being a brown guy, I have never faced any race-specific discrimination from indies / agencies, and I have seen girls from both humpchies and the green board. Some escorts on humpchies exclude black men, but most reputable indies do not discriminate. Without knowing the name of the girl you saw, I can only guess that it's a problem with that specific girl or maybe she was just having a bad day.

If an escort is biased against or makes it a policy to exclude certain races, they would usually ask for your "appearance" in the booking email and / or explictly mention it in their ad.

If you're in Montreal as a visitor, booking indies might be difficult as it requires planning ahead. I would recommend to check out reputed agencies lile Vog / Euphoria / XO, or the high-mileage massage places like Amazing Thai Spa / YPG / Adagio / the 2214 if the agencies are all booked.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2775626]The irony of the clash between the green board and XO is not lost. I have to wonder if there is something more going on behind the scenes.

I say this because the green board usual shills are quite noticeable in launching new agency girls. You would have to wait for more reviews to come in from objective players to honestly gauge new girls. So basically it appears the shills get first crack at the new girls with the agency knowing they will help launch their escort career. It even seems that being aware of the shill's importance some of the girls provide better service to them. You know the typical response "She provided intense DFK to me. Sorry chap, you know YMMV."

The green board has also been known to remove poor reviews for girls. This is particularly true if they leave the business for awhile and come back. Even when they change names and move around their erratic service tends to resurface and their reputation haunts them.[/QUOTE]That's understandable. Some guys have lots of $ so they book often. In counterpart they get offered new girls first by agencies and unless things would go very south, they make a good review and keep this business relationship going. I wouldn't be surprise they embelish a lot of stuff. But hey if you can afford to "loose" 250 $ like its no big deal and still get some privileges, I supose its understandable.

They do so.

[QUOTE=Pk099;2775632]My experience in MTL as a brown guy is very good. MTL is still on top of my list for best service and best quality of providers.

As a brown guy, I never felt any discrimination or bad service.

Rather, I always had best service in MTL and providers themselves referred me to other providers and suggested 3 somes.

Only once I had incident where one provider (highly reviewed and one of the top provider) who said NO to brown client after making appointment, so I had to make another plan.

I just assume she had bad experience with brown client before my appointment, so she changed her policy.

As AnwarFarzad said this maybe one off experience but IMP, MTL providers are one of the best.[/QUOTE]Thanks, my recent experience has been very positive. I have posted my report below. I always mention I am brown before booking. That way if they have reservations they can avoid. But it takes just one bad client to ruin it though like you said about the one provider. That's why I was wary and always conscious on what I do.

Just taugh I would put mini-reviews and feelings about my 2022 year and who I met in a "trip report" format but for a year instead. 2022 was incredible not only because I met excellent providers and didn't had a single bad meeting, but because I also crossed ladies off my bucket list that I had for years. I am still undecided if I will vote in the green board polls as I feel its kinda shady this year. Part of me do not want to penalize the ladies or Luxury wich I used a lot, but I don't like to partake in the way its made excluding others. So here ill just shout out to the ones I enjoyed.

1) Audrey at Luxury Escort (Currently not available there or elsewhere that I know).

Started the year strong. Wanted to meet her for a while when she was at Vog. Finally was able but at Luxury. Blonde with big fake breast. Loved it! Friendly and great in bed. CIM extra. No SW.

2) Becca at Escortsxo.

Had her on bucket list since she was called Chelsea at Mike's Mansion and then Euphoria. Was cancelled once in the past when trying to book to my disapointement but we finally met. Very friendly. One of the best kisser in a long time. Great BJ too. CIM / COF ending for extra.

3) Christina Di Milano Indy (think she retired but unsure 100%, not advertised in a while).

Not our first meeting. Always great. As a regular as I can have I would say. Ended with CIM.

4) Kourtney Luxury Escorts.

This one was unplanned but turn out great. Fun lady. Good look. CIM (can't remember if extra or included).

5) Adriana Milan Indy.

Another bucket list for many years. Booking failed a few times in the past. Pricy tough at 400 $/ h but oh so worth it for what I got. Exceeded my expectation. CIM / COF included. She has a twitter with a mail but she seem to not advertise really. I found out she was available cause I was sub to Anastasia WithLove OF and she appeared in it with a client as a threesome. I supose she has regulars enough so she don't need advertising but she ain't close to meeting new clients from what I saw.

6) Stacy Luxury Escorts.

Again another bucket list girl I wanted to see for years, as way back as when she was at XXXtase under a different name. We talking like 2014 or so. So obviously she is a bit older but she still has a rocking body and provided great service. CIM / SW Included.

7) Mya Luxury Escorts.

She had face pics (but not anymore) on the website and I just taught she looked gorgeous. Petite Latina with perfect medium see breast with small nips. Also reputed to be very open minded so I really want to see her. Again exceeded my expectation. CIM / SW and a bit of COF for extra.

8) Brooke wich was at Euphoria but saw as indy (currently not on their roster but still available indy).

I seen her a few times over the years, she's been around since 2013 or so. Last I saw her was many years ago so I really wanted to meet her again. She look better than ever. She has some blond in her hair, her body was even more in shape than in my souvenir, still super pretty. Bombshell of porn kinda look with big manmades. CIM / COF for extra.

And that was it for 2022.8 meetings wich is about what I do per year. But several bucket list ladies I wanted to see for years, a few "regulars" I was happy to see again, and a couple new cummers that turned out to be amazing. No bad meetings at all. So a year to remember.

For 2023 my plans tough are a bit different. I don't really have a huge TDL. There is one on it wich is super hard (for me) to get a hold on I will try to see. Her location is pretty bad but maybe we will be able to work something out, will see. Other than that, I would like to see Bianka at Xo wich I seen way way in the past like 10 years ago, but I don't really have anyone else on a specific list. There is a few indies I would love to meet but at 400-500 $ or even 600 in some cases its really a vague "maybe depending on how goes the year". I will probably be in Montreal for a few events so could end up seeing some of the ones I saw in 2022, or ladies that were not on my radar but happen to be available. Obviously seeing a bucket list lady you been lusting for years is great, but sometimes a new surprise can have a similar effect if she is also amazing.

Happy New Year all!

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2775630]The shame is really more for the girls of XO and any indies who do not have ads on the green board. As you mentioned, XO will be fine. Everyone knows them. The awards are very useful for the girls, should they continue in this career. But, it's been crazy to have a vote for best girls when all the XO girls are off the vote list.[/QUOTE]I ran the award myself on the green board for 2 years. I never had any interference by any of the mods. They actually thanked me both times.

Then Fred Zed unfortunately passed away.

Then I begin to receive suspensions and warning for many post. Then they suspend me indefinitely. They wrote me saying they would reinstate me but never did. I was very active back then and probably became a bit too popular. And some were quite jealous of the little party me and a few buddies had with the best girl Also, there was a real indy scene back then (before Covid). Me and a few guys on the board were sharing info on about 15 non advertising indy SP that were fantastic. That could have been the reason but anyhow all that is gone since covid. I think site like Seeking completely took over that market as there is absolutely no indy scene anymore (except green board indy a few on Twitter like Lola or indycompanion site). Classified site like Leolist is 99.99% BS now.

Things I know for sure is that yes the green board was removing bad reviews. But it's also absolutely true that some guys were writing bad reviews on purpose, out of vengeance or anything else. I knew some of these guys back then. So yeah it must be hard to maintain balance for the mods on the green board. I have no inside clue what happened between XO and green board. But having an award this year without XO girl like Kate, Arielle, Bianka for example is silly. These 3 could easily be top 3 in Montreal currently.

I know for a fact that you never ever never ever mention the green board to ANY of the girl. They all hate it haha.

Still you can get good info on the green board. Not that much with reviews but way more via the direct messages. That's the tool that help me so much back then.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=JosephBrenner;2776402]2) Becca at Escortsxo.

Had her on bucket list since she was called Chelsea at Mike's Mansion and then Euphoria. Was cancelled once in the past when trying to book to my disapointement but we finally met. Very friendly. One of the best kisser in a long time. Great BJ too. CIM / COF ending for extra.

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For 2023 my plans tough are a bit different. I don't really have a huge TDL. There is one on it wich is super hard (for me) to get a hold on I will try to see. Her location is pretty bad but maybe we will be able to work something out, will see. Other than that, I would like to see Bianka at Xo wich I seen way way in the past like 10 years ago, but I don't really have anyone else on a specific list. There is a few indies I would love to meet but at 400-500 $ or even 600 in some cases its really a vague "maybe depending on how goes the year". I will probably be in Montreal for a few events so could end up seeing some of the ones I saw in 2022, or ladies that were not on my radar but happen to be available. Obviously seeing a bucket list lady you been lusting for years is great, but sometimes a new surprise can have a similar effect if she is also amazing.[/QUOTE]Becca is awesome but by god always have a plan be as she cancel a lot.

Bianka is the only one I saw last 6 months. She's incredible. Very PSE if you want. Fuck I had seen her in 2015 and really beside boob job her body has not change at all. Fit and firm wow!

You should really try to see Kate. [URL]https://twitter.com/katealmond_/media[/URL].

She is hot and so horny my god!

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2776484]I ran the award myself on the green board for 2 years. I never had any interference by any of the mods. They actually thanked me both times.

Then Fred Zed unfortunately passed away.

Then I begin to receive suspensions and warning for many post. Then they suspend me indefinitely. They wrote me saying they would reinstate me but never did. I was very active back then and probably became a bit too popular. And some were quite jealous of the little party me and a few buddies had with the best girl Also, there was a real indy scene back then (before Covid). Me and a few guys on the board were sharing info on about 15 non advertising indy SP that were fantastic. That could have been the reason but anyhow all that is gone since covid. I think site like Seeking completely took over that market as there is absolutely no indy scene anymore (except green board indy a few on Twitter like Lola or indycompanion site). Classified site like Leolist is 99.99% BS now..[/QUOTE]I followed you (Jalimon) pre-Covid. Your account is all pretty much true.

You were single-handedly bringing life to the Indy scene at that time. And not the well-known high priced Indys, but the girls out of the center who seemed adventurous and just wanted to make a little cash. I never experienced any of your Indy recommendations. I usually was in the center without a car and it was just more convenient to contact the agencies. Besides it seemed the Indys you were hooking up with preferred a local, regular type of clientele.

Your observation of Seeking is interesting. It did appear that some of your Indys were fairly low mileage girls looking for a side hustle. Seeking works well for that, but is really not all that good for a girl looking for volume. (I seemed to remember your curvy girl in LE Plateau who enjoyed giving great head. LOL. I hope I remembered that right.).

I just know the green board mods seemed to want to be very active participants by means of moderation. In your case, perhaps your endearing nature with some of the girls caused resentment. Your "parties" were quite well-known. To use a sports metaphor, they should keep their whistle in their pocket and let us play.

Joseph Brenner is more tolerant than I am of the shenanigans. I have had some polite but firm exchanges with the shills. You learn who is who and how to read past the hyperbole. And yes Jalimon just like here if I find fellow members with the same aesthetic, I reach out to them by way of DM. Those candid exchanges are priceless as far as I am concerned.