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[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2699957]I... As far as the girls I just speak to them with my back against a wall so I can see my surroundings and able to use my phone safely if I need to translate something. ...[/QUOTE]A possible known scenario is that they work as a group to swam at you. It does not matter how you position yourself.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2700153]The danger is the situation can get bad quick if you don't meet the demand from one of them even after you have befriended some of them, like a beer or something. Or what if they demand to go to the room with you? Most people won't have your street smart to get out of it easy. The danger goes up significantly once you go further north into the area outside of El Centro where most congregate.[/QUOTE]So true how quickly and ugly things can get.
Best policy is to stay clear of all, completely, and never, ever, ever engage with, as the outcome can be very ugly, and anyone engaging and befriending is playing " Russian Roulette."
[QUOTE=GianniVersace;2700053]So where is the best place for me to find some vennies? Are they mostly the street girls in El Centro?[/QUOTE]Just stroll thru Botero and Veracruz, find the girls you like.
They'll be Colombiana or Vennie.
Don't over think the Vennie vs Colombiana thing.
They're both good.
Pick what you like.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2700042]I have been with hundreds of vennies and prefer them over colombianas. They are much more personal and react with personality that is unmatched. I have even taken one to travel with me to Santa Marta and back to medelland, it was an unforgettable experience. I've befriended quite a few of them and taken them on dates to the cine out to eat etc, one went with me to guatap and comuna 13. They never charge me extra for going out, just for the sex we have before and after (or on the extended trips during).[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's great!
I've befriended many as well, in both Medellin and Bogota.
I'm a pretty cool cat, Lol, and I speak very good spanish, and I like joking around, etc, treating them like human beings.
Lightens it all up.
Everyone wins.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2700049]I know this is going to sound weird to many but I befriend as many trannies as happen along. [/QUOTE]Talking to them and even buying them beers does not make them your friends. Invite them to your place, if they are your friends as you say, and see how that works out. First chance they get you will be robbed.
[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2699957]As far as the girls I just speak to them with my back against a wall so I can see my surroundings and able to use my phone safely if I need to translate something. [/QUOTE]The most dangerous time is when it is raining and everyone is packed like sardines under the awnings to get out of the rain. Best time for a bunch of guys to surround you and you think nothing of them being so close to you thinking they are just trying to keep dry.
I agree about the swarming tactic. I've seen it happen more than once. I disagree that it does not matter how you are positioned. You are much more likely to be able to foresee, prevent, or escape the crime if some or all of the perpetrators can't run up on you from behind.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2700159]A possible known scenario is that they work as a group to swam at you. It does not matter how you position yourself.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nounce;2700153]The danger is the situation can get bad quick if you don't meet the demand from one of them even after you have befriended some of them, like a beer or something..[/QUOTE]Not saying your wrong bcos I have no evidence, but I am curious to know how you know trans women are more a danger than anyone else in centro?
[QUOTE=Nounce;2700149]They are in Park Lleras too but you can't bring them back to San Peter if they only have Venezuela ID.[/QUOTE]Be more specific about this please. You are saying that Venezuelans are not allowed with only a Venezuelan ID card I guess, and not ID in general. Because a friend of mine from Venezuela happened to be in Medellin the same time I was because her sister came up from Chile for plastic surgery. She stayed with me in San Peter but it was a Venezuelan passport that she showed them at the desk.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2700237]Talking to them and even buying them beers does not make them your friends. Invite them to your place, if they are your friends as you say, and see how that works out. First chance they get you will be robbed.
The most dangerous time is when it is raining and everyone is packed like sardines under the awnings to get out of the rain. Best time for a bunch of guys to surround you and you think nothing of them being so close to you thinking they are just trying to keep dry.[/QUOTE]I just go sit at the Nutribara hotel and have a few beers / get an uber to leave, never had an issue.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2700159]A possible known scenario is that they work as a group to swam at you. It does not matter how you position yourself.[/QUOTE]No personal experience nor have I witnessed a tourist getting swarmed (seen plenty of fights amongst the locals), but I have heard a few stories so I guess its possible? I never go down there late at night, I rarely go past 9-10 pm down there.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2700244]Not saying your wrong bcos I have no evidence, but I am curious to know how you know trans women are more a danger than anyone else in centro?[/QUOTE]Why do you think they are more dangerous? It is similar to a tight group situation, and it only takes one person in the group to get you in trouble and the other people in the group may or may not help you. Not saying it is absolute.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2700239]I agree about the swarming tactic. I've seen it happen more than once. I disagree that it does not matter how you are positioned. You are much more likely to be able to foresee, prevent, or escape the crime if some or all of the perpetrators can't run up on you from behind.[/QUOTE]They are stationed there. It is not like they are coming from some distance away from you. They can even be playful that can confuse you.
Twice here at Ground Zero I was circled by 4 or 5 trannies with bad intent. I talked or acted my way out of it both times and I think I wrote about both incidents. Agree prevention is the best tactic. Maybe "befriending" is too nice a word because when I said they "happen along" it's almost always when they are with a regular chica. That's how I met Pumpkin and she made it on my List. The thought of bringing one back to my room never even crossed my mind although I have had two different trannies in a love motel room while I fucked their friend to take fotos and generally put the girl more at ease. I am sure that sounds weird too but one of the trannies was a lifetime friend of the girl before he was trans and the other was a half-sister, and the chicas felt much more comfortable with them in the room the first times.
I am not offended at all if someone wants to use me as a barometer of what not to do, as I have said here many times here before. I have a friend like that in the states. He does and likes most things opposite of me. If you think about it, a person who is "wrong" or opposite of you is more valuable for information than someone who is not because you have a reliable indicator. If you agree with a person say 50/50, then a toss of a coin gives similar results. When the person is always opposite then you do the opposite.
One thing for sure, I am not going to change. I will Keep On Keepin On. Oh, an erraturm, another "stupid" thing I did. I wrote recently that I bought Froggy some new prescription glasses for some unbelievably cheap price, 90 mil COP. Turns out I was only buying the frames and now we have to go back and pays for the lenses or "crystals" as she calls them, at more than the cost of the frames, jajajaja. I am getting out in total at 200 mil COP for frames and glasses, and she has already promised sex as a payback so really not a loss. The glasses simply became a payment instead of a "regalo" or gift.
Real talk, there are many desperate people due to drugs and / or economic distress around Centro. Given the opportunity they can get into mischief at an unexpected moment. Unless you expect it could happen at any moment. I don't spend much time worrying about being victimized but I have adopted reasonable and so far effective personal security practices. I think it's not as much of an adjustment to the routine if you have spent significant time in urban settings. If you are from a more rural area then it won't be as intuitive even though it is no less necessary.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2700237]Talking to them and even buying them beers does not make them your friends. Invite them to your place, if they are your friends as you say, and see how that works out. First chance they get you will be robbed.
The most dangerous time is when it is raining and everyone is packed like sardines under the awnings to get out of the rain. Best time for a bunch of guys to surround you and you think nothing of them being so close to you thinking they are just trying to keep dry.[/QUOTE]
I don't hang around trannies.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2700286]They are stationed there. It is not like they are coming from some distance away from you. They can even be playful that can confuse you.[/QUOTE]
Some guys like to take a walk on the wild side.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2700221]So true how quickly and ugly things can get.
Best policy is to stay clear of all, completely, and never, ever, ever engage with, as the outcome can be very ugly, and anyone engaging and befriending is playing " Russian Roulette."[/QUOTE]