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[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2814155]The Nepalese kid on the corner of Soi Arab has fab Moonrocks, cheap. He is the only street guy I will go to. . Wonder is terribly overpriced as are most of the shops. I get mine at my local which is waay off the beaten path.[/QUOTE]Yeah last night Wonder was running a two for one special that made it much more attractive. But I have to admit the quality there is good and they will roll what one buys there which is worth something.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2809624]I can certainly understand why visitors are not enthralled with online services. You come here to party and have a good time, not to spend time on your phone reading reviews and looking at pictures, as it takes a lot of time. We residents have a very different outlook. Very few of us go to the bars anymore (think I've been once in the past year to remind myself why I don't go), they are a shadow of their former selves especially for those of us who have been here two decades plus. They are expensive and in most of our eyes the girls are not particularly good looking. The online scene however, while not fun for the visitor, affords the resident, namely residents who speak a little of the local language, access to great looking girls for a very reasonable price, without having to go to a bar and deal with lady drinks, mamasans, bad music, bar fines, etc. And we can partake late morning on through the night. Completely different agendas.[/QUOTE]
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It just takes a bit of practise. But I haven't gone to a MP or streets or gogos in a bit. I would go there just to walk and watch. At least that's what I did last time mainly because I didn't find a girl I wanted.
Also, I'm not hungover the next day which is a huge plus for me.[/QUOTE]Late reply but this is fair perspective as well. I don't know if it's just me but online dating just doesn't do it for me? It's not just about being attractive but finding a girl with the right vibe which is hard to do online.
[QUOTE=Fortunate;2814078]LOL! You know what as I consider it my certainty diminishes. The first one was just a quick grope in the bar, easy enough to be fooled. The second might have been a very good post op, now that I consider it. I might have been fooled completely.[/QUOTE]Most of them are very easy to spot, but very few are still more tricky.
I've met one the other night in soi Honey (Pattaya), at the LadyPink bar. I saw her when I passed in front of the bar and thought she was a cute smallish girl.
Now the soi is 80% LBs, but there are still some real girls working in that soi, I just realised she was an LB after ordering my beer, when she started talking mostly.
A good way to check if she is a real girl or an LB (if she works in a bar), is to pay her a Sangsom lady drink (check that she really has Sangsom in the glass), let her drink it and she will start dropping most of her feminin atttitude, and instead her masculin side will reapper pretty soon.
For the guys that say most LBs will honestly admit they are LBs, that was not the case with her (although I didn't try to confront her as I was already sure), she talked of herself as a "she", so don't be fooled by whatever they might say.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2814434]Most of them are very easy to spot, but very few are still more tricky.
I've met one the other night in soi Honey (Pattaya), at the LadyPink bar. I saw her when I passed in front of the bar and thought she was a cute smallish girl.
Now the soi is 80% LBs, but there are still some real girls working in that soi, I just realised she was an LB after ordering my beer, when she started talking mostly.
A good way to check if she is a real girl or an LB (if she works in a bar), is to pay her a Sangsom lady drink (check that she really has Sangsom in the glass), let her drink it and she will start dropping most of her feminin atttitude, and instead her masculin side will reapper pretty soon.
For the guys that say most LBs will honestly admit they are LBs, that was not the case with her (although I didn't try to confront her as I was already sure), she talked of herself as a "she", so don't be fooled by whatever they might say.[/QUOTE]In early 2020 I found a freelancer on Soi 4 and was 90% sure that I would take her. Small. Feminine voice. High heel shoes. Narrow shoulders. No Adam's apple. Natural famine movements. Then she offered that she was ladyboy. Even after she told me, I couldn't see it. She was such a good impersonator of a woman that I sometimes wonder if she was a lady who didn't want to go with me.
Ever since that time I always ask if LB before agreeing to go.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2814434]Most of them are very easy to spot, but very few are still more tricky.
I've met one the other night in soi Honey (Pattaya), at the LadyPink bar. I saw her when I passed in front of the bar and thought she was a cute smallish girl.
Now the soi is 80% LBs, but there are still some real girls working in that soi, I just realised she was an LB after ordering my beer, when she started talking mostly.
A good way to check if she is a real girl or an LB (if she works in a bar), is to pay her a Sangsom lady drink (check that she really has Sangsom in the glass), let her drink it and she will start dropping most of her feminin atttitude, and instead her masculin side will reapper pretty soon.
For the guys that say most LBs will honestly admit they are LBs, that was not the case with her (although I didn't try to confront her as I was already sure), she talked of herself as a "she", so don't be fooled by whatever they might say.[/QUOTE]Thrice, LBs tried to trick me.
First time: her ID pic didn't match her face in person.
Second time: Asked for ID, she pulled it out quickly, held it far from my face and waved it, then quickly put it away.
Third time: Was upset that I asked on TF. In person, asked for ID and there is was: "Mr."
[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2814433]Late reply but this is fair perspective as well. I don't know if it's just me but online dating just doesn't do it for me? It's not just about being attractive but finding a girl with the right vibe which is hard to do online.[/QUOTE]Lots of pretty girls on TF. Most don't even provide a description. Very rarely do I receive a reply. Many times they don't read my PM. I receive messages from grannies.
But! I usually make a connection. However, it takes a lot of goddamn work.
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For the guys that say most LBs will honestly admit they are LBs, that was not the case with her (although I didn't try to confront her as I was already sure), she talked of herself as a "she", so don't be fooled by whatever they might say.[/QUOTE]Ladyboys that are post op, that have had a sex change, do not consider themselves to be LB's.
To themselves, and all around them agree, they are now a she.
The concept that they are still male is a western view, not a Thai one.
So they're not lying to you.
Remember, you're not in Kansas any more Dorothy.
[QUOTE=Vendelo;2814629]Thrice, LBs tried to trick me.
First time: her ID pic didn't match her face in person.
Second time: Asked for ID, she pulled it out quickly, held it far from my face and waved it, then quickly put it away.
Third time: Was upset that I asked on TF. In person, asked for ID and there is was: "Mr."[/QUOTE]Forgot, I went by last Saturday to check it out for a second time since they opened hoping for maybe better. As I approach guard was sitting on left there were two on the other end, one even before I got within clear vision said that looks like a Ladyboy and sure enough it was it ask me come in give you a massage. I just smiled and kept walking when it comes to LB that is as far as I go.
Same with my go too massage Paradise years never a LB, next door had some but not Paradise after covid a session with my regular tough enough my age you sneeze wrong it is down parascope. While she started to get down on LBM, I hear next booth that low voice " my turn Bill " WTF!
[QUOTE=Tomasb;2814142]Stockings used to be called Temptations and also was a Lady Boy bar. Right around the corner was Mercury at the top of escalator. This used to be a lady boy bar but was taken over by Red Dragon. A GG bar.[/QUOTE]Just to finish the thought on another LB bar mentioned recently, the bar where Straps used to be at the top of the escalator, hairpin left on the middle level of Nana Plaza, is now called Star. As far as I know there is no bar called Straps in Nana Plaza anymore.
BTW, I tried to reply to a comment I got about that in a PM but my reply did not go through. Maybe that member's mailbox is full.
Most foolproof thing to do to discover ladyboys is just drop to your knees and sniff. I'll agree that it is kind of awkward to do in public, but if you are that worried about being fooled, well then there ya go.
I'm old fashioned, in my 25 plus plus years in Thailand, I've never had a ladyboy issue. I feel left out. Maybe its because the ladyboys I see are ladyboys and not interested in fooling some farang otherwise.
Or maybe its because of where I choose to go. Never had to do the sniff test regardless.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2814737]Forgot, I went by last Saturday to check it out for a second time since they opened hoping for maybe better. As I approach guard was sitting on left there were two on the other end, one even before I got within clear vision said that looks like a Ladyboy and sure enough it was it ask me come in give you a massage. I just smiled and kept walking when it comes to LB that is as far as I go.
Same with my go too massage Paradise years never a LB, next door had some but not Paradise after covid a session with my regular tough enough my age you sneeze wrong it is down parascope. While she started to get down on LBM, I hear next booth that low voice " my turn Bill " WTF![/QUOTE]Disregard fellas I thought I was on Pattaya thread, eyesight going bad too!
I never have entered Star Bar, aka Straps, but it should be noted it is a post-op bar and the LB's in there are reputedly so deluded by their operation that they all claim they are GG's. Just a mention for the uninitiated. I have heard some are spectacular looking so there's that!
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2814781]Just to finish the thought on another LB bar mentioned recently, the bar where Straps used to be at the top of the escalator, hairpin left on the middle level of Nana Plaza, is now called Star. As far as I know there is no bar called Straps in Nana Plaza anymore.
BTW, I tried to reply to a comment I got about that in a PM but my reply did not go through. Maybe that member's mailbox is full.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2814691]Ladyboys that are post op, that have had a sex change, do not consider themselves to be LB's.
To themselves, and all around them agree, they are now a she.
The concept that they are still male is a western view, not a Thai one.
So they're not lying to you.[/QUOTE]How do you know that particular one was a post op?
Anyway, you seem to be very experienced in that matter, so I won't argue with you, I know nothing about them.
Last Saturday did not have any plans and lately as other has said TF seems to have become a big unreliable and some of the regular girls have not yet returned back.
Was trying to decide if I must looking at visiting a Soapy or Nuru place or try something new. Checked a few profiles on MR, Wow since last year it looks like most of the profiles are put up by agencies and I sort of stay away from them as most of the time it's either fake or the service is just mechanical. Came across Ana - [URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-bangkok/ana-your-holiday-girlfriend.[/URL] Interesting write up, So thought would ping and check, she responded quickly enough on Line and just discussed what I was looking for and monies etc.
So we had agreed to meet up at a coffee shop in front of my hotel as I wanted to be sure she is who she is before getting her to my room.
Got a message 10 minutes before 6 letting me know she has reached, quickly put on some cloths and just walked out and found her sipping on some Bubble tea at the Cafe. I was a bit surprised as I was expecting the pics to be old etc, but she looked the same. Tight figure. She waved at me while I was crossing the street and then just had some small talk. Apparently, she stays quite close, so it took her about 10 minutes to reach this place.
We came back to the room, showered together, felt her up a bit and she smiled and got on her knees for a BBBJ. Then moved on to the bedroom for an hour of bliss. Tried different positions and finally ended with a CIM.
Later got to know that she works part time and this is just a side gig.
Face: 4/5.
Body: 5/5.
Skill: 5/5.
Service: 5/5.
BJ: 5/5.
GFE: 5/5.
Anal: Yes.
Price & Session Length: 6,000 and on time.
Repeat: Yes.
MR Link: [URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-bangkok/ana-your-holiday-girlfriend[/URL].
[QUOTE=Fortunate;2814289]Finally made it to Thremae last night and that place was packed! The ladies sat around the edges of the room, and along the bars in the interior while the men formed a moving line rotating around checking them out. Must have been over 50 to 100 women in the room of all kinds of ages. About half way through the loop I spotted Ing a beautiful Thai woman who stood about five foot nothing with a little waist, round butt, and cute as hell face. I continued walking until I made it to the 3/4 mark then doubled back and talked to her.
She offered 2500 to come back to my place and I didn't bother to haggle. Bare oral, covered PIV, and much fun was had by me.
Going to go check out some fights tonight but a true fishbowl place is still on my list of things to check out before I leave on Monday to Pattaya. Maybe Posiedons.[/QUOTE]Thanks for input some info about thermae, planning to travel BKK this end of the month, it's been almost 3 years have not been there, valued info is very helpful. By the way the amount BHT 2500 is for short time or long time? By the way, what is the hotel near to Thermae? I normally stay in Double tree by Hilton but is in sukumvit soi 2 quite far from Thermae but of coarse nearer to nana.
Thanks.