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Until one learns some conversational Spanish I would recommend that they check out Ectaco translators. They are not cheap for the better ones, but do a very good job. The phrases that Guitarrefreak asked about I typed into the translator I have and they came out like what was given in response. You can also buy Sim cards with different languages, so if you go to LOS you can pop that Sim in and be good to go. If the phrases are already in the translator, you can speak into it and it will auto-translate.

Guitarrefreak I hope that things are going well with your ATF. It can be very intoxicating to have a beautiful young lady take an interest in me. If I really want a relationship with a lady I must speak her language, and move to where she is. Then, just like any relationship between a man and woman it is only 50-50 at best. Relationships are like trying to mix oil and water. Men run on data, while women run on feelings (no data needed). As a man it is hard for me to relate to a woman just because she feels a certain way.

From reading your posts, IMO you started out on a very high. As she didn't answer at times you began to doubt. IMO, do not try to figure out why there was no response. It is what it is. Doubt will not help you with where you want to be, if you truly want something more than just a fling. When you start to feel the doubt, know that it is not a good place for you, immediately change that thought to positive. If you remain positive, whatever happens will be right for you.

Just the ramblings of an old f*rt, what do I know, except that it has worked for me.

Health & happiness to all.

[QUOTE=Guitarrefreak; 1195111]I know man, I know, such a fuckin bummer.

I just don't have time from my regular day to take a class (no, seriously) and I really only use this opportunity to spit out any espanol shamelessly and make her laugh.

For this ATF, actually while I was hanging out with her last week, she seemed to get most of the stuff I type on the fly into the translator, but yeah maybe some of my longer sentences got translated into eel-filled hovercrafts.

Even the shorter msgs she doesn't reply though, fucking bummer, maybe its just her latina nature.[/QUOTE]I've noticed that my chica doesn't get some of my messages sent from my US phone. Or they're delayed. I've literally sat next to her in the bar while using AT&T coverage and sent her messages that don't come through. But with my Telcel number, they always come through instantly. A nice bonus of my Telcel phone is I receive SMS messages when I'm at home for free (it costs about 4 pesos to respond, which is more than AT&T charges) but I'll leave them hanging until I'm within the Telcel signal (Jack in the Box parking lot).

The problem with the translators is they're attempting to translate things word for word instead of from a phrase or idiomatic sense. A lot of times she can get the gist of your translations but sometimes it will be gibberish. Until you can take a class (or Rosetta Stone or Pimsler) look for phrasebooks, not dictionaries.

Also, remember although she receives texts for free, it costs money to send responses back (an international text is 2x that of sending one to a local). And if her account is empty, she won't receive messages until she tops off the account. Since SMS expire, your message can vanish into the ether between the time you sent it and she tops off her account. If she's low on pesos in her account, she might decide to wait to respond, but by the time she recharges she's forgotten about your message. Or she's a flake.

I also hate to break this to you, but she's also got several other clientes texting her all the time and so she manages her time (and phone) accordingly. You also need to build a stable of favoritas so you've always got a standby.

[QUOTE=Big John 1;1194976]This was on Craigs yesterday Tijuana Craigslist under chica busca chico has phone number hurry before gets flagged give report chica about a 3 in foto but for BBBJ for $20doable! LOL! Stuck Rosarito with GF but luv report go for it researchers! Who wants to be first? LOL! Be careful guys!Just looked at Craigs foto again still up chica closer to 2 than 3 but huge tits doable for BBJ not much more close your eyes,guard your wallet!LOL!Big John[/QUOTE]Told a guy I know here in Rosarito about this chica, he did a test run for 200pesos, not $20, he said worth every pesos said she swallowed also said try no look at her face! This man is Mexican. Ad still up on Craigs with phone number, this man says if you call she speaks a little English if not Spanish speaker.

[QUOTE=Super Gato; 1195569]I've noticed that my chica doesn't get some of my messages sent from my US phone. Or they're delayed. I've literally sat next to her in the bar while using AT&T coverage and sent her messages that don't come through. But with my Telcel number, they always come through instantly. A nice bonus of my Telcel phone is I receive SMS messages when I'm at home for free (it costs about 4 pesos to respond, which is more than AT&T charges) but I'll leave them hanging until I'm within the Telcel signal (Jack in the Box parking lot).

The problem with the translators is they're attempting to translate things word for word instead of from a phrase or idiomatic sense. A lot of times she can get the gist of your translations but sometimes it will be gibberish. Until you can take a class (or Rosetta Stone or Pimsler) look for phrasebooks, not dictionaries.

Also, remember although she receives texts for free, it costs money to send responses back (an international text is 2x that of sending one to a local). And if her account is empty, she won't receive messages until she tops off the account. Since SMS expire, your message can vanish into the ether between the time you sent it and she tops off her account. If she's low on pesos in her account, she might decide to wait to respond, but by the time she recharges she's forgotten about your message. Or she's a flake.

I also hate to break this to you, but she's also got several other clientes texting her all the time and so she manages her time (and phone) accordingly. You also need to build a stable of favoritas so you've always got a standby.[/QUOTE]Hey Gato, I highly recommend getting a world phone next time you switch phones. I loved that I had one phone getting telcel and US texts, then when I left I just erased all traces of numbers from Mexico. The phones in Mexico are so ridiculously priced it makes absolutely no sense to me. The world phone option is limited, but you look better pulling out a $900usd phone than a 20usd phone. I'm guessing you didn't waste much money on one of their phones but I could be wrong.

[QUOTE=Madisonguy;1195867]The world phone option is limited, but you look better pulling out a $900usd phone than a 20usd phone. I'm guessing you didn't waste much money on one of their phones but I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]Look better to who?

If one is trying to impress potential muggers and pickpockets, then, well, go 'head on.

If one is trying to impress a Tijuana hooker, then, well, one is merely being pathetic. :)

BTW, you would be surprised at the number of cell phones that are "lost" in a place like HK.

I would like to know if anyone here would get Dental work with an ex Maxim Model and local celebrity.

Her name is Nadia Ramos and she is a dentist.

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Had the pleasure of meeting up with Tomjackin' in person to shoot the shit for a few hours down in Amnesia and then headed down to his turf at HK to witness some pro-mongering action.

(@tom: it is essential that I buy the next round next time, my buddies express their thanks too, I am thinking of heading down again in a few hours)

Long story short, I got into several,"what. The. Fuck" moments last night independent of the above. Got off work late, headed down w / buddies and hopped on my 1st taxi ever where I know amnesia location better than he does. Rather crowded Friday night with what I thought was a decent distribution of girls. Brought 2 friends whom I will leave their ethnicity info undisclosed for fear of retaliation.

At amnesia, I have slowly start to lose interest in many girls except my ATF (there are 3 of them) and last night, ATF #2 showed up first which was a bit of a bummer. She is the one I seemingly had a freebie during our first night out and during the 2nd encounter, suggested she wanted monetary compensation after the deed. Anyway, before things turned awkward, she was throwing smiles and wet kisses to me like we always did. At one point (and I blame it on the alcohol I already consumed) , my eyes started following an attractive looking chica walking across the room and dang it turned to be my ATF #1, whom ATF #2 knew and recognized. Man, got to take a look at the change in her face, and she tells me she is getting jealous.

Anyway, I was a getting a little annoyed because she wouldn't let the topic go, and to be honest, little brother downstairs was doing most of the thinking too, eventually, I don't know if something got lost in google translate, or out of spite, she turned to my buddy and started making out to him (I don't think I mentioned to my buddy that I fucked her twice before) , and they eventually went to get a private dance after which she disappeared (Before they headed to private dance, she texted me something along the lines of, this is why she hates guys, or why did I sleep with her if I don't like her, etc)

During this time, I was just keeping my eye on my ATF 1 who did not seem to realize I was there, and one of the chicas having fun was telling me that she was waiting for another guy, I took an opportunity to go to the rest room passing by her and she looked genuinely shocked to see me as she did not even make any attempt to hug / kiss / etc, which was fine. Anyway, we didn't say much and by the time I got out of the rest room, she was gone and for the next hour or so, sporadically spotting her coming in / out of the VIP room.

At one point, Tom suggested we should get going to HK, and my buddies were seriously becoming BBB, so thats where we headed, Tom hooked us up with no cover entrance after which he managed to get his buddy waiter to find us a spot to sit upon which he started to demonstrate his advanced mongering skills, I will have to give myself another decade there,

To each his own, but I have found the zona or Tijuana in general now to be a little 'less' attractive than it used to, but then maybe I am just going through my periods, my BBBs had a whole lot of fun it seems, and one of the first guy picked up a chica for 60 which he said later that she underperformed, don't remember her name, another buddy picked a girl he bought 2 drinks for and he told me he had the most awesomenest session he ever got for 80 bucks total (or compared to 260 dlls session he had state side). I was just having fun teasing a regular SW I banged twice and just in general being an idiot last night, all in all, great times and great memories watching Tom pound on some tequila (hope you got back to ticuan safe buddy)

Towards the end of HK, my ATF #1 texted me and asked me where I was. With the kind help of my BBB #2's good chica, she helped me send some swift messages back and also helped me translate a subsequent message along the lines of "I am so sorry, I didn't know you were here earlier, are you staying in Tijuana tonight?" anyway, that was enough to get me to want to go back to amnesia which we did. Right after I walk up the stairs, she was there waiting for me, and immediately she came up from behind me and hug me from my back while we walked to a booth, I felt my dick size triple when I hear my buddy utter,"that is total GFE right there"

The rest of the evening was a little blurry though, after the tequila shots and cerveza earlier has kicked in. I just remember making out with my ATF, she was downing the 20 dll drinks at a, slightly painful, but not quite unreasonable rate and all around we were just making out. We made verbal plans to meet up for lunch today but we will see.

As I was telling Tom earlier in the evening, I needed to have the opportunity to "feel hurt" to show up at her work place yet not getting her attention, only doing this several times will let me get used to the very point that everyone has listed earlier, that I am not her only client, and etc. All good advice and I think I will be getting to that state of mind soon (hopefully before my spending becomes too crazy).

Left Tijuana around 7am.

Another side story on the screw-ups of my buddy's primvera visite tijuana and how he managed to blow a ridiculous amount of money during trip. But I will post that tonight.

Peace all

Google Expo Tequila for link to their site which appears to be under construction so the dates are not cast in stone. On Revolucion at 7th street. Lot's of good tequilas for around other than 14th. 16th most likely $5 entry fee, unlimited tequila samples. Pretty promo models and local chicas mingling.

[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1195891]Look better to who?

If one is trying to impress potential muggers and pickpockets, then, well, go 'head on.

If one is trying to impress a Tijuana hooker, then, well, one is merely being pathetic. .

BTW, you would be surprised at the number of cell phones that are "lost" in a place like HK.[/QUOTE]I have never in my life got mugged or pick pocketed. So I'm not going to begin to start worrying about it now. It's not necessarily about impressing anyone, it's just a chip at the confidence when you pull out a shitty little phone or have to wear a stupid tourist t-shirt or a million other things I could mention. I played the don't wear nice stuff and be afraid of your shadow but at the end of the day if I get mugged I'm getting all new shit and probably better because it's all insured. I got one of those gay ass phones in Philippines last time and I hated learning it, pulling it out, just everything about it. I love that my blackberry got message from the US and Mexico it was so convenient. The cost to replace my phone would also be less than if I lost a phone I bought in Mexico which is another reason it makes more sense.

I had a plan for Friday afternoon and evening; didn't work out. Got me a great room at the Ticuan in the early afternoon, then off I went for tacos and HK, in that order.

In HK, I chatted with one of the English speaking girls for a bit and she was telling me about the blackout the night before. She said many of the girls were crying and left the club to go home to be with their children because they thought the world was coming to an end, it has something to do with the bible I guess; like I would really know! BTW, some more new talent in HK, I was a happy camper!

The plan was to meet a girl at Playboy at 5:00. On my way to Playboy, I was tackled by my favorite SG, Clara. Not many customers around and she was hungry for me, I mean money. I told her of my plan, but also told her if the girl didn't show, she would clearly fit into Plan B.

Playboy seems like an OK place, but I only stayed for a drink. Within the time frame of that one drink, I was propositioned at least 20 damn times about women, drinks, and tips. Geez Louise, and I thought HK was bad about things like that. Either way, the girl was a no show, so off to Plan B. Grabbed Clara, off to the store for tasty adult beverages, and then on to the hour hotel.

Little did I know, Clara was only the beginning of Plan B. Spent some more time in HK and then off to New York. I'm not really sure as to why I stop in this club; I just do. One of the girls that works in there is quite a cutie. She is from Seattle, speaks perfect English, and only acts as a hostess; making money off of ficha drinks. I asked her if she ever went to a hotel with one of the customers, she replied,"Hell no!" I replied,"OK, I'll give you two hundred bucks for one hour of sex right here and now!" She turned me down, not that I would have paid that much anyway, but I did want to see if she was serious or not.

I've been wanting to check out Amnesia for quite a while and meeting up with Guitarrefreak gave me the perfect excuse to go. The 5 buck cover charge is unwarranted because the place is just OK, IMHO. It is a good size club and does have some hotties working there. The screwdrivers were 7 bucks and the ladies' drinks (did not partake) were 10 bucks. The place seems too professional? Not enough skin running around for me, but either way I did enjoy hanging with Guitarrefreak and his buddies for a while.

We all headed to my stomping ground, HK. There was a line at the door, but my pal Mercedes waved us though. It was somewhat late and the sausage fest was in full swing, but there were plenty of women available. My other pal, David, that used to work days, latched on to me and scored us a booth. I told him to fetch us some fine women and he came though like a champ. The 2 for 1 coupons and women were flowing; life was good at HK.

This is where Plan B should have ended; but not for me. I stumbled across to Tropical to see if any of my heart throbs were working and after I walked in, I saw my favorite sitting in one of the chairs where the girls wait for a dance area. After we settled in the place, I had a "Here we go" moment! I've never been to one of the VIP rooms before, so I figured last night would be a good time; what the hell.

I know the VIP rooms on the right side of the bar are a decent size, but they were occupied, so we ended up in one of the smaller ones. Either way, it was a blast. Once the light is out, no one can see in, but you can see out; kind of kinky for sure. Both of us buck naked, door unlocked, and somewhat of an audience; hell yeah!

After the play time in Tropical, I headed back to HK, but for only one reason. I had Mercedes (love that girl) put me in one of her "trusted" cabs in order to get back to the Ticuan.

Bottom line; Plan B kicked ass!

[QUOTE=Guitarrefreak; 1195931]Long story short, I got into several,"what. The. Fuck" moments last night independent of the above.

At amnesia, I have slowly start to lose interest in many girls except my ATF (there are 3 of them) and last night, ATF #2 showed up first which was a bit of a bummer. She is the one I seemingly had a freebie during our first night out and during the 2nd encounter, suggested she wanted monetary compensation after the deed. Anyway, before things turned awkward, she was throwing smiles and wet kisses to me like we always did. At one point (and I blame it on the alcohol I already consumed) , my eyes started following an attractive looking chica walking across the room and dang it turned to be my ATF #1, whom ATF #2 knew and recognized. Man, got to take a look at the change in her face, and she tells me she is getting jealous. (Before they headed to private dance, she texted me something along the lines of, this is why she hates guys, or why did I sleep with her if I don't like her, etc.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the game. I'm no psychologist but I have noticed throughout my experiences that pros get "extremely" jealous about these kind of things. As fine as they are physically to the world / opposite sex, they can manifest so much EXTREME insecurity, it can be a little' mind blowin at times. Yeah, she's a woman with feelings working in a hyper-chaotic environment and money is an underlying variable never to be ignored, but still I've seen this time and time again. I guarantee you she was thinking about you the whole time she was with your BBB, GUARANTEED! It's funny like that and it was confirmed by the text message she sent you. Can there really be any more competition between girls than in a SC like HK? The fact that you had gotten a freebie says a lot, regardless of money compensation the next time around. She's been burned before, she admits it in her text message about "hatin men"; its just a weird set of circumstances what we see go down in any SC. Punters / Mongers that are constantly crossing the line between something, possibly something, maybe nothing with a BG / WG / SG over and over again. Most of them if not all of them have a tremendous amount of low self esteem, and this is one way it manifests itself. She was probably thinking,"I don't believe it, he's looking at her, she's must be prettier than me, he'll probably leave me for her, etc". I had a somewhat similar experience.

My Colombian WG thang warned me the first time we went "out" and had a few drinks. She said "Conmigo estas jugando con fuego, soy candela"-With me, you're playing with fire, red-hot. At some point in time, she saw me talking to another WG for whatever reason, it doesn't even matter. She got so mad / jealous that she started making threats under her breath, talking about putting her six feet under and all that garbage. Like GLP said back in the day "Game recognize game". Peace.

PS Expect all that to keep happening, might even get worse, but in some funny fucked up way, its how they show they care even if its just a little itty bitty bit.

Glad to hear you had a great time even after we departed bro.

I just ended got back to SD again from my trip there tonight.

Need to digest some thoughts before I make my post.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1196015]This is where Plan B should have ended; but not for me. I stumbled across to Tropical to see if any of my heart throbs were working and after I walked in, I saw my favorite sitting in one of the chairs where the girls wait for a dance area. After we settled in the place, I had a "Here we go" moment! I've never been to one of the VIP rooms before, so I figured last night would be a good time; what the hell.

I know the VIP rooms on the right side of the bar are a decent size, but they were occupied, so we ended up in one of the smaller ones. Either way, it was a blast. Once the light is out, no one can see in, but you can see out; kind of kinky for sure. Both of us buck naked, door unlocked, and somewhat of an audience; hell yeah!

After the play time in Tropical, I headed back to HK, but for only one reason. I had Mercedes (love that girl) put me in one of her "trusted" cabs in order to get back to the Ticuan.

Bottom line; Plan B kicked ass![/QUOTE]

And, I guess the fucked up side of us men do enjoy seeing that happen.

[QUOTE=Colbrotha;1196018]PS Expect all that to keep happening, might even get worse, but in some funny fucked up way, its how they show they care even if its just a little itty bitty bit.[/QUOTE]

I agree totally. With latin girls in general this is normal, but take a hooker and it takes all normal emotions to the extreme. Some of them probably sell themselves just because they have given up on their night in shinning armor. I thought about it and the girls that were close to girlfriends that I met in hooking all had one thing in common. I didn't sleep with them right away. It always worked out that I already screwed a girl and then I met them, and I think that I didn't want to sleep with them but wanted to hang out with them was odd and for whatever reason they liked it. I'll never forget the first night I met the Costa Rica girl who woke me up at 2am in a drunken stooper to announce her love of me, unfortunately my love of sleep was pissed off so I kicked her out, it was also before I knew any spanish so she just spoke a bunch of jiberrish to me. Anyway the next day I saw her and she apologized and everyday from then on she would be waiting for me in my hotel lobby when I woke up. Good luck finding a girl that can be on time in latin America, that too me is the most important thing because I hate waiting. Anyway long story short that girl loved me like a kid loves a puppy until she saw me get mad at her and then it all melted away, until then I was perfect. Once you lose that perfect image to these girl then you just become a quick buck again so in the end I still think you're better of going to Las Pulgas and meeting someone who will not see you with her friend at her bar or any other crazyness.

[QUOTE=Colbrotha; 1196018]Welcome to the game. I'm no psychologist but I have noticed throughout my experiences that pros get "extremely" jealous about these kind of things. As fine as they are physically to the world / opposite sex, they can manifest so much EXTREME insecurity, it can be a little' mind blowin at times. Yeah, she's a woman with feelings working in a hyper-chaotic environment and money is an underlying variable never to be ignored, but still I've seen this time and time again. I guarantee you she was thinking about you the whole time she was with your BBB, GUARANTEED! It's funny like that and it was confirmed by the text message she sent you. Can there really be any more competition between girls than in a SC like HK? The fact that you had gotten a freebie says a lot, regardless of money compensation the next time around. She's been burned before, she admits it in her text message about "hatin men"; its just a weird set of circumstances what we see go down in any SC. Punters / Mongers that are constantly crossing the line between something, possibly something, maybe nothing with a BG / WG / SG over and over again. Most of them if not all of them have a tremendous amount of low self esteem, and this is one way it manifests itself. She was probably thinking,"I don't believe it, he's looking at her, she's must be prettier than me, he'll probably leave me for her, etc". I had a somewhat similar experience.

My Colombian WG thang warned me the first time we went "out" and had a few drinks. She said "Conmigo estas jugando con fuego, soy candela"-With me, you're playing with fire, red-hot. At some point in time, she saw me talking to another WG for whatever reason, it doesn't even matter. She got so mad / jealous that she started making threats under her breath, talking about putting her six feet under and all that garbage. Like GLP said back in the day "Game recognize game". Peace.

PS Expect all that to keep happening, might even get worse, but in some funny fucked up way, its how they show they care even if its just a little itty bitty bit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Madisonguy;1195867]Hey Gato, I highly recommend getting a world phone next time you switch phones. I loved that I had one phone getting telcel and US texts, then when I left I just erased all traces of numbers from Mexico. The phones in Mexico are so ridiculously priced it makes absolutely no sense to me. The world phone option is limited, but you look better pulling out a $900usd phone than a 20usd phone. I'm guessing you didn't waste much money on one of their phones but I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]My Mexican phone is my old Sony Ericsson unlocked GSM phone I picked up in Germany. I bought a SIM card at the Telcel store in Plaza Rio (150 pesos with a 200 pesos airtime credit). The phone cost me more than a current smartphone new, but it has a great camera / video / push email / Opera browser. And its battery lasts forever it seems. Due to its age, it is EDGE only. My main US phone is an iPhone locked to ATT and there's not a super reliable unlock for it to "just work" outside the US with my firmware so I carry two phones. Having access to the net on the iPhone with a larger screen has spoiled me, so eventually I'll get an unlocked smartphone for use outside the US (I don't travel internationally nearly as much as I used to, it is less of a priority since often my iPhone can get ATT's signal from Zona Norte). The SE phone is tiny enough to carry with me. I've thought about instead of getting a new phone for my adventures in Tijuana, but to just get a 3G wifi hotspot thingy and just use my iPhone for the web via Telcel's 150MB / day for <$5 versus the $20 / mb ATT roaming (I usually get by on the 15MB for 15 pesos plan on my SE phone). For the occasional phone call and text, I can pay their extortionist rates or add the Mexico calling plan.

Although it is funny how the girl's eyes light up when they see my iPhone (especially right after they came out) but I bring the phone for me, not as a piece of jewelry to impress them.

I went years without getting pick pocketed or robbed, too. I did have my iPhone 3G lifted from me in Tijuana (at Hong Kong I think, I didn't notice it missing until I was back at my hotel). I also had a phone lifted from me in Reynosa, Tamaulipas boys town a few years ago too. In that case, the boys town version of an alley girl had hugged me and wondered why I hadn't visited her but I'd never seen her before. After that I never let strangers hug me like that. Again, didn't notice the phone missing until I was at CBP later and it was too late. Plus I needed a new phone anyway that time). I wouldn't whip out my iPhone walking down Constitucion or other places known for rateros. The key in any big city is to not to draw attention to your shit. Inside the big clubs, it is pretty safe but you still have to keep your eyes on your stuff at all time. Compared to other places I've mongered, the big clubs in Tijuana are relatively safe and I'm rarely the person that is best dressed and showing off bling. They're the ones that will get the attention from bad guys, not me.