Bali

Can anyone please sum up FL venues, time frames and free lance scene in Kuta, Legian and Seminyak areas?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2123330]How much do those free lancers charge?[/QUOTE]Based on my recollection, anywhere from 700 k-1. 5 m for ST. I don't usually do LT so I'm not sure about that but I think it can be done for 1-2 m. I didn't partake from here last time as for almost the same money, I can have a much nicer experience at Riverview or some place similar.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2123353]Do you realize your first sentence was contradicted by your second sentence? How can there be very little there in Sanur if there are loads of fishbowls? Loads mongers enjoy fishbowls. Therefore, that would mean if Sanur had loads of fishbowls, there would be loads of monger action there. That's a simple syllogism.[/QUOTE]I think he may be referring to quality.

I only tried a fishbowl in Sanur once, and it felt like you were wandering into a collection of abandoned houses, and suddenly a pps appears who takes you to see the girls (2-3 girls available in my case, but I understand there can be more). The room feels pretty dirty, but the girl I got was sweet and actually quite cute, though no stunner.

Amazing that for about the same price (250-350 k, upper end for foreigners or if you can't speak Indo), you can get pretty amazing quality and nicer facilities in Jakarta.

This time in Bali, I didn't bother checking out Sky Garden or Sanur, as I found the best value for money (it's all relative) to be the spas, where you don't need to bring girls back to your place and worry about people seeing or theft or any drama, you can pay by credit card, and you can get relatively nice facilities-- at least in the case of Riverview.

I recall Riverview was 1. 3 m for 90 minutes, but that was a year ago. Not sure if prices went up, or if my recollection was wrong, because I checked out Onasis and it was 1. 5 m. Onasis is also much sketchier looking from the outside, and all the taxi drivers know about it-- they would proactively mention it to me as we drive past (like from the airport and such, without any prompting). "Very good spa. Wink wink".

The interesting thing about Onasis is that you select girls from a fishbowl, vs. The girls coming out to line up for you like at Riverview. I picked a girl that was kind of hiding in the back, but she was definitely only one or two out of the 25 girls there that were doable for me.

She ended up being a good choice-- very little English but fun and playful. Decent massage as well.

I'd say between Riverview and Onasis, Riverview definitely wins. Onasis facilities were much older, darker, and dirtier feeling. The valve to turn on the water for the tub was directly on the pipe under the tub behind some broken tiles. It was barely acceptable, and only a slight upgrade from the Sanur fishbowls. I might go back if it was convenient (like a session on the way to the airport, as it's about 10 min away), but otherwise would recommend Riverview.

[QUOTE=Dirk67;2123511]I think he may be referring to quality.

I only tried a fishbowl in Sanur once, and it felt like you were wandering into a collection of abandoned houses, and suddenly a pps appears who takes you to see the girls (2-3 girls available in my case, but I understand there can be more). The room feels pretty dirty, but the girl I got was sweet and actually quite cute, though no stunner.

Amazing that for about the same price (250-350 k, upper end for foreigners or if you can't speak Indo), you can get pretty amazing quality and nicer facilities in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]Thanks for chiming in on that. I could see the OP wasn't being very objective, but I had to point out that glaring contradiction. As I have tentative plans to do Bali, including Sanur in March, I will do my own assessment when that happens.

But, where can you get better a better value at those prices in Jakarta? Members on these forums have said the opposite, that Bali is the value destination.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2123353]Do you realize your first sentence was contradicted by your second sentence? How can there be very little there in Sanur if there are loads of fishbowls? Loads mongers enjoy fishbowls. Therefore, that would mean if Sanur had loads of fishbowls, there would be loads of monger action there. That's a simple syllogism.[/QUOTE]I was referring to FLs only, not mongering in general.

Some time ago I read there was a raid on this spa and I presume they closed down afterwards. Has anyone been there recently? Is it still operating as in the past?

[QUOTE=Dickster;2123936]I was referring to FLs only, not mongering in general.[/QUOTE]Thanks for clarifying that. I wasn't trying to be contentious. But, as someone looking for precisely that kind of intelligence from someone on the ground, it was a confusing statement. But, at least it gave me a chance to use a syllogism. First time in a long time since my Logic 101 class back in college.

[QUOTE=Kodja;2124401]Some time ago I read there was a raid on this spa and I presume they closed down afterwards. Has anyone been there recently? Is it still operating as in the past?[/QUOTE]Have 3 days only in Bali on stopover to Perth. Having read several pages of this forum I see that Riverview was popular but was concerned to read about the raid and I too wonder if its closed. Rather than making a wasted journey. Also, other than this one and Onasis (great review Dirk67) are there any others were there is a line up (whether in fishbowl or not)? Many thanks to any senior members of this forum who reply.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2124755]Have 3 days only in Bali on stopover to Perth. Having read several pages of this forum I see that Riverview was popular but was concerned to read about the raid and I too wonder if its closed. Rather than making a wasted journey. Also, other than this one and Onasis (great review Dirk67) are there any others were there is a line up (whether in fishbowl or not)? Many thanks to any senior members of this forum who reply.[/QUOTE]Riverview and Onassis still trading as usual. The raid didn; t even slow them down. I was there next week.

Those two places are at the high end price-wise, but you get a lineup and good service, including massage etc. If you are just after a quick fuck the fishbowls in Sanur are probably the place to go. Venus spa in Jalan Pendidikan, Bali exotique spa and Kretya spa are other possibilities for mid range massage plus plus with a choice of girl (s).

One thing not mentioned about Onassis Spa is its proximity to the immigration office. It's across and up the street from this spa. When I went to extend my visa, I visited the spa for the first time. Pretty convenient after wasting half the afternoon at the immigration office.

There are two entries to the spa: the building's main entrance, which has a separate interior walkway on the left side to the spa with the fishbowl, and a reception desk in the lobby where one can get a legit massage and no extras. There is a side pathway outside the building (on your left as you face the building. A short walk on this path takes you to a glass door. Upon entry, the fishbowl is direct on your right and the reception on the left. I found a nice pretty girl and had a good time and did not notice any infrastructure issues with the rooms. As usual, YMMV.

Also, the Onassis has small interior hotel rooms past the lobby. The rooms were inexpensive but the one I viewed did not have windows. The spa is very close to the airport too if seeking last minute relief before your flight.

Will be in Ubud this weekend.

Does anyone know if there's any play here!? Mainly interested in AMPS, and like the sound of Beer Massage.

Cheers, Gron.

[QUOTE=Grondig77;2124891]Will be in Ubud this weekend.

Does anyone know if there's any play here!? Mainly interested in AMPS, and like the sound of Beer Massage.

Cheers, Gron.[/QUOTE]Not much action in Ubud. I would take my one from Kuta or elsewhere.

For the prompt responses. I'm based just north of Seminyak so will head down to Riverview. Onasis is a it of hike from there and Sanur too far. I had a wander around Seminyak square last night and the surrounding roads but didn't see any action. Which was a surprise. Asked a taxi driver who said Riverview but then of course he would! Unlike in Bangkok it seems the average AMP on the street with the girls outside ready to do massages don't offer HJ. At least the 2 I visited yesterday both said no. Hence Riverview it is for me today unless you guys have other Seminyak suggestions. Much appreciate the quick reply yesterday.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2124755]Have 3 days only in Bali on stopover to Perth. [/QUOTE]Some places have a full staff including driver. I would look at that if I were you. Alternatively, ask the taxi or person driving / picking you up cost of hiring them for several hours at a time or half day. Some restaurants will offer pickup service. I find that more convenient and safer.