Panama City

Hello gentlemen,

Coming in town this Sunday last min trip with a friend. He already booked the arrangements and we're staying at the Veneto. Just curious if anyone has stayed there recently and what was the take out fee to go upstairs. How is the hotel I've been there few times but never stayed only gambled & take out. It's a shame they started charging at the Hyatt now. Will.

Be in town sun 16th & Mon. 17th. Probably not the most lively days but quick trip.

Is better than none. How much does an Uber run from airport to Veneto and is this best way. Thanks in advance for help, BB.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2059667]Besides the FKK clubs which are my favorite places to go and currently under attack by the new German Laws (will blow over) , Spain is by far my favorite country and took me 29 years of mongering to find it, wish I did ages ago. How it missed my radar for 3 decades I have no clue. Everything and anything you want is in Spain. Overhead will be more. The Hyatt is under 100 bucks. Most places in Spain will dent you for more and if you aren't in to the brothels and the pisos the cost will be more w escorts to your room but there are plenty of them. 100 E-500 E but most are going to be 150 E-250 E delivery. The brothels are 50 E-70 E. No more than 90 E. All 30 minutes. Probably 10-20 E more in Barcelona than Madrid.

Use these boards to start your research. And PM me if you want or any of the guys on the ISG Spanish boards. I can feed you tons of info on Spain but have only done Panama once and just drag tail out of the Veneto or Habanos, can't beat the ease of them. That Panama has Spain beat on, walk out, grab hooker, walk home.

[URL]http://www.girlsbcn.net/escorts-barcelona/[/URL] (these are your higher end girls for outcalls).

[URL]https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/index.php[/URL] (Barcelona).[/QUOTE]Thanks, leaning more to Panama at this point, as it seems the quality of girls will be better for cheaper. Also, to stay in a 5 star hotel in Barcelona with pool etc like in Panama looks like it will cost 3 x the price, and then other factors such as drinks, partying etc will end up being more expensive in Barcelona. Will definitely give it some thought possibly for another trip. What I like about Latin America it seems is the tolerance at the hotels and generally to this sort of thing, they know what is going on and seen it all before. In Colombia I was having two girls a day come to visit me, also bringing party favors and the hotels seemed very good with it, and really turned a blind eye. I've been told Panama is the same.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2059653]The same girls who go to Cartagena would also go to Panama if they can afford it or have a handler pay for their tickets. They just charge more in Panama than they do in Cartagena. The nice thing about Cartagena is that there's a lot more to do while in Panama there's mostly fuck all to do during the day.

You're being ripped off. If you want to throw money like that then by all means but those prices are rip off prices. You want to bang a girl in Panama? Go to Habanos or Veneto. Get off the escort sites. They are designed to rip you off.

She will be probably sitting in a place like Habanos when the dispatcher calls her.

If you don't want to waste time on bait and switch bullshit then don't use escort agencies. Go directly to where the women work. There's no such thing as 'too hot' to work in Habanos.

You're going to pay a girl a thousand dollars a day? Look I'm going to be frank with you. You really should think this through more carefully. I've never heard of anyone throw that much money around in Latin America. I would almost say be careful because that paints a big target on your head.

If you speak Spanish and aren't too bad to look at they'll spend the day with you for a couple of hundred bucks. That's plenty of money. Much more than they would earn in a day usually.[/QUOTE]OK, thanks. It seems it's definitely worth giving Habanos a try. And it does seem like some of the escort sites might be advertising girls that aren't available. I have seen three girls I knew form Cartagena on the Panama escort sites, two of whom I could get for free as I did so in Cartagena and Bogota (after they went home from Cartagena), a couple are still messaging me on whatsapp. I'm 35, have high income and apparently good looking according to the girls.

I don't speak any Spanish but that didn't seem to be too much of an issue in Colombia with google translate and also some speak enough English it seems to get by. What I was meaning with spending 800-1000 a day (probably 800 max) was 200 for a hotel, 400 for the girl which would be to have her as company for good 6-8 hour blocks and have her party with me an also come to the pool of wherever, and 200 for extras such as drinks and food etc. Seems like I can lower this significantly just have to be a little more creative and go and seek the girls and negotiate. Happy to do this, it's just that my experience in Cartagena they used managers rather than hanging out at bars.

Thanks for your help.

[QUOTE=Thayerst;2059701]

I don't speak any Spanish but that didn't seem to be too much of an issue in Colombia with google translate and also some speak enough English it seems to get by. What I was meaning with spending 800-1000 a day (probably 800 max) was 200 for a hotel, 400 for the girl which would be to have her as company for good 6-8 hour blocks and have her party with me an also come to the pool of wherever, and 200 for extras such as drinks and food etc. Seems like I can lower this significantly just have to be a little more creative and go and seek the girls and negotiate. Happy to do this, it's just that my experience in Cartagena they used managers rather than hanging out at bars.

Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]That makes more sense, however just keep in mind that the average monthly pay in that part of the world is 200 to 300 US dollars a month. Some of these women will rattle off big numbers in hopes of making a big pay day but it's not realistic. 100 USD in Panama is about right for short time. Twice as much for over night. That's at least what I used to pay.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2059884]That makes more sense, however just keep in mind that the average monthly pay in that part of the world is 200 to 300 US dollars a month. Some of these women will rattle off big numbers in hopes of making a big pay day but it's not realistic. 100 USD in Panama is about right for short time. Twice as much for over night. That's at least what I used to pay.[/QUOTE]Thanks, $200 for all night seems very reasonable and I think you're probably right. With so many girls around (noticed this in Cartagena), it seems that supply way exceeds demand so if they take $200 - $300 for a full night or day, they would have to see three clients per day which might be pushing things. I noticed this in Bogota as well where if you messaged a girl from one of the independent websites, she would be available to come pretty much straight away.

So can I also assume that the fancy escort agencies are a little bit creative in that while some of the girls they have listed on there may work for them or work for them in the past, they're probably not available? Is it exactly the same as in Cartagena and Bogota where you'll go on the website and be told the girl you wanted isn't available and then they send through a bunch of pictures of girls who are nowhere near the quality of those on the site? I know you guys don't use the escort agencies but does this seem accurate? They're putting up fake photos to lure you in to using their services?

Also, does it generally work as such for the girls in that they will decide to come to Panama and just use every angle for bookings? So they might advertise on backpage, go to Habanaos, and also contact a few of the managers / escort agencies as well? So they might sit in Habanos and either wait for one of their managers to message or go with a Habanos patron if the price is right? Just want to be sure that I don't miss out on booking the hottest possible girls. I saw the blonde girl who is on the video on the start page on panamavipmodels site in Cartagena and was able to get her for pretty much half the price of an agency by getting her number from her friend. Is it a similar sort of deal in Panama, they're basically just freelancing and getting whatever they can?

You guys may not have any idea on this, but wanted to get a sense of how it works so that if I go for four days I don't waste them by using the wrong option and only figure it all out best by my last day. I may be over thinking everything too much, but just want to make sure I make the right decision!

[QUOTE=Thayerst;2059906]Thanks, $200 for all night seems very reasonable and I think you're probably right. With so many girls around (noticed this in Cartagena), it seems that supply way exceeds demand so if they take $200 - $300 for a full night or day, they would have to see three clients per day which might be pushing things. I noticed this in Bogota as well where if you messaged a girl from one of the independent websites, she would be available to come pretty much straight away.

So can I also assume that the fancy escort agencies are a little bit creative in that while some of the girls they have listed on there may work for them or work for them in the past, they're probably not available? Is it exactly the same as in Cartagena and Bogota where you'll go on the website and be told the girl you wanted isn't available and then they send through a bunch of pictures of girls who are nowhere near the quality of those on the site? I know you guys don't use the escort agencies but does this seem accurate? They're putting up fake photos to lure you in to using their services?

Also, does it generally work as such for the girls in that they will decide to come to Panama and just use every angle for bookings? So they might advertise on backpage, go to Habanaos, and also contact a few of the managers / escort agencies as well? So they might sit in Habanos and either wait for one of their managers to message or go with a Habanos patron if the price is right? Just want to be sure that I don't miss out on booking the hottest possible girls.[/QUOTE]Pay for membership and message me! People can help you here save hundreds. Pay the $20 and PM me.

I looked at doing escorts / indy for some day time action but never had a chance in my short trip. The only purpose for escorts or indys is if its your first day after arrival or day of arrival and you haven't been to Habanos to get any girls numbers to meet up with you during the day or met a girl there yet. There's really no need. But if you arrive during the day or only had one night limited to get any numbers, you may just want to bite the bullet and do the escort / indy thing for convenience. Most of agencies I looked at all had good looking Colombian or Venez girls, which from my experience even if someone different showed up from the picture she probably is going to be darn good looking still for a hour of fun. And that's exactly it, once you meet escort / indy meets up with you and if you like the experience she will probably hook you up with available other friends if she has any.

I wouldn't over think it. Habano's at night starting at 9 pm and have at it. If you arrive day time or early morning give escort / indy a try. Be careful about the indy thing as it was a pain in the butt weeding through the trans gals. If you arrive first day and do Habanos at night, do two sessions for short time and get their numbers for one to meet the next day. Ask for pics of their friends Instagram and then say you want there number too for day time next day. And Lastly. A good drink to share with the ladies.

[QUOTE=Thayerst;2059906]Thanks, $200 for all night seems very reasonable and I think you're probably right. With so many girls around (noticed this in Cartagena), it seems that supply way exceeds demand so if they take $200 - $300 for a full night or day, they would have to see three clients per day which might be pushing things. I noticed this in Bogota as well where if you messaged a girl from one of the independent websites, she would be available to come pretty much straight away.

So can I also assume that the fancy escort agencies are a little bit creative in that while some of the girls they have listed on there may work for them or work for them in the past, they're probably not available? Is it exactly the same as in Cartagena and Bogota where you'll go on the website and be told the girl you wanted isn't available and then they send through a bunch of pictures of girls who are nowhere near the quality of those on the site? I know you guys don't use the escort agencies but does this seem accurate? They're putting up fake photos to lure you in to using their services?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TripAdvisor16;2060075]Pay for membership and message me! People can help you here save hundreds. Pay the $20 and PM me.[/QUOTE]Tripadvisor16,

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Another pilgrimage to the Sun Casino at the Trump last night.

Some 15 ladies were waiting for your approval. While most of them tend to wear the uniform of the little black dress... some distinguish themselves with more colour.

Was told that management limits their number according to the number of patrons in the Casino. Exceed that number and the ladies are turned back at the door.

Enjoy.

Mellow.

[QUOTE=Kooper;2059683]Recently had a short three night stay to check out what Panama had to offer. I just made the cut off it appears prior to the recent Hyatt changes for extra guest fees.

Airport. Simple and easy with no issue. You do the finger print thing which was easy and then move along to head out. They have a large shopping area and I picked a duty free liquor store before you head down escalator / stairs to leave. I grabbed my couple bottles and headed down. I had to wait an hour to get out since the line was huge to go through the final luggage scan. Someone told me they sometimes have a line dedicated for USA Arrivals, is this true and I caught it on a bad day?

Hyatt. I got the large high floor King which was perfect. Loved having a large couch to chill and the bed separate. Standard Hyatt type rooms like in the USA.

Habanos. Basically you just take a left out the entrance of Hyatt and then another left and you're at Habanos in 5 minutes walking. It's that easy. I was there Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights. Friday it was just nuts loaded with hot girls to choose from. I got there "later" around 10 pm or so and there was no shortage of women. I just had some drinks and interviewed who I wanted. Since this was my first night to get the lay of the land I decided to walk over to Venetos around 11:00 pm or so to check it out knowing I could come back to Habanos. Well, had a bit of a problem on the walk over as I saw two policia and they stopped me asking for my passport. I totally forgot to get my stamp copied at Hyatt having just arrived and so let the shake down begin. Of course, I had a copy of the passport, but no stamp. One of them was just jerking me around for about 20 minutes total and eventually took the discreet $20 payoff to let me on my way. It was a rather annoying start to the trip and I forgot with all the high rises and developed nature of the city that tourist wouldn't be bothered, especially with no girl in my arm. But, I just went back into my spidey sense mode like I do most countries I visit and did fine rest of trip. After this, I turned abruptly around and went back to Hyatt and crashed for the night..[/QUOTE]Exactly as you said regarding the Hyatt: "I really don't like staying at a hotel with other families or business travelers. One girl they copied her passport, the other girl next night copied her passport and made me sign below it, then during the early evening the spinner girl I just grabbed and we went into the elevator and I ignored the front desk. Still, I prefer having a much more discreet environment or being able to just ring the girl up from my room. Habano's is great and convenient though for hot girls a short walk away."

I completely agree. Next time I will Airbnb a lux condo there.

Traveling to Panama City, Panama and have reservation at the Hyatt Place. I see they started to charge chica fee. So which hotels are girl.

Friendly without a fee in Panama City?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Dave1027;2063524]Traveling to Panama City, Panama and have reservation at the Hyatt Place. I see they started to charge chica fee. So which hotels are girl.

Friendly without a fee in Panama City?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hotel Principe via Argentina does not charge a fee.

[QUOTE=Thayerst;2059906]
You guys may not have any idea on this, but wanted to get a sense of how it works so that if I go for four days I don't waste them by using the wrong option and only figure it all out best by my last day. I may be over thinking everything too much, but just want to make sure I make the right decision![/QUOTE]You are over thinking this. It's not an efficient market place. If the girl is busy then she'll be with customers the entire day and you'll never meet her. If things are slow then she'll be sitting in Habanos or one of the other venues waiting for a customer. That's about as simple as it gets. The 'hottest' chica isn't sitting in a room waiting for you to call her. Just go and have a good time. Seriously, especially in a city like Panama you won't have a problem finding the chica you want.

Good day gentlemen,

This will be my first trip to PC or Cartagena (CTG). From what I read, it seems like PC is the better choice for lookers (E. G Habanos) than CTG. Maybe a little pricier but it seems most of the Colombian hotties end up in PC.

My travel dates (and hours) are not flexible (only 3 days). I found a direct flight from the US to PC for $900 (too expensive and only choice that works for me). Alternatively, I found a flight from the US to CTG (with a layover in PTY, both ways) for $450. My question is as follows:

If I book the CTG flight and walk out at PTY, will the airlines honor my return ticket since I will not be flying all the way to CTG?

If not, and I end up going all the way to CTG, my layover in PTY is only 1:15 min going there and 50 min returning. Will I make it to my connecting flight? If I am literally landing and walking to my connecting gate in the same terminal, I think I will be OK, but if I have to through some some kind of security check, then I will be worried. Do I go through security if I am just connecting through PTY.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=BoroMarl;2063631]Good day gentlemen,

This will be my first trip to PC or Cartagena (CTG). From what I read, it seems like PC is the better choice for lookers (E. G Habanos) than CTG. Maybe a little pricier but it seems most of the Colombian hotties end up in PC.

My travel dates (and hours) are not flexible (only 3 days). I found a direct flight from the US to PC for $900 (too expensive and only choice that works for me). Alternatively, I found a flight from the US to CTG (with a layover in PTY, both ways) for $450. My question is as follows:

If I book the CTG flight and walk out at PTY, will the airlines honor my return ticket since I will not be flying all the way to CTG?

If not, and I end up going all the way to CTG, my layover in PTY is only 1:15 min going there and 50 min returning. Will I make it to my connecting flight? If I am literally landing and walking to my connecting gate in the same terminal, I think I will be OK, but if I have to through some some kind of security check, then I will be worried. Do I go through security if I am just connecting through PTY.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]First.

You do not have to go through any security other than gate security.

Just step off the plane and walk to the gate. As I said there is security at the gate but it's not that big of a thing.

Second.

No travel expert but why can you not just book the flight to Panama?

Lee.