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[QUOTE=GianniVersace;2703581] I have paid between 150000 mil cop to 350000 mil cop with the latter being a 400000 mil cop girl who was hot and agreed to give me 2 leches.[/QUOTE]Leave off "mil" when you write the amount as 150000. I'm pretty sure you didn't pay 150000000 COP to 350000000 COP, but that is what you wrote. Most people understand what you meant, but some newbee's may not understand.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2703718]The one thing many of the guys driving up the price never consider: There are about four billion women in the world to choose from[/QUOTE]Fixed that for you.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2703718]I'm sure there are guys paying that and much more. And I'm with you on that. If the girl can get it, more power to her. Same as when some guy would drop $500 or more on my old roommate's webcam. I'd cheer for her every time. Then I'd get her to buy me lunch.
The one thing many of the guys complaining about someone driving up the price never consider:
Not all girls have the same value.
It boggles my mind that so many people can't understand that. They understand that everything else has a wide price range, but can't accept that some girls are going to cost more than other girls.
Whether they're worth it depends on the buyer.[/QUOTE]For real. A 5 or 6 streetwalker isn't going to cost the same as a 9 or 10 from Seeking. No matter what.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;2703731]The two girls I'm thinking of weren't straight up hookers ... As many have noted, there is a HUGE spectrum of P4 P.[/QUOTE]I agree there is a huge spectrum but they are all straight up hookers. There are hookers and non-hookers. To review, if a woman (I don't know anything about 'girls') accepts money, rent, or anything else of value in exchange for sex, she is a hooker. There is not this gray area. There just isn't. Fuck hookers, go out to dinner with hookers, support hookers' families, whatever you want to do. But don't forget they are hookers. Take money, housing, 'help with bills,' tuition money, whatever, in exchange for sex, that's a hooker. Plain and simple.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2703448]Work the chicas down on their price if after you meet them you still want them. That's one argument for pleasuring the girl, although it may not hold much water. I guess working a girl down in price takes a time investment some guys don't have if they are here for a short trip.
One mongerer posted here, that the longer he was seeing a chica, the more he was paying her. Not as a girlfriend, strictly Pay 4 Play. I never could wrap my head around that one. Well, yeah I can. Pussy whipped. Crack that whip! (channeling Devo).[/QUOTE]I would never suggest changing what you try to a prepago after the price was agreed upon. That is the lowest of the low and can create problems for the mongering community. I meant if you or she circle back around for subsequent sessions, then you can try to negotiate her fee down, which is more likely to occur is she "likes" you.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2703749]Fixed that for you.[/QUOTE]Didn't fix it for me.
Excluding all under 18 and all over 30, leaves somewhere around 1.8 billion. Excluding physical defects, obesity and other factors which would disqualify them from my consideration, now its down to maybe 1 billion. Next remove the ones who aren't attractive enough to appeal to me and maybe 500 million remain. Since I'm not planning on going to India, China, anywhere in Africa or most places in Europe, Asia and Australia, let's say about 60 million women.
Now exclude women from that group who are unwilling to have sex with me, either paid or free, and the ones who aren't located convenient to places I do visit and look for P4P opportunities, that leaves maybe 100 k.
And they're still not all going to be the same price.
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2703750]For real. A 5 or 6 streetwalker isn't going to cost the same as a 9 or 10 from Seeking. No matter what.[/QUOTE]That is an interesting observation. How about a 5 or 6 from Seeking, compared to a 9 or 10 from Seeking? Do you have a picture to show what a 10 looks like?
[QUOTE=Nounce;2703785]That is an interesting observation. How about a 5 or 6 from Seeking, compared to a 9 or 10 from Seeking? Do you have a picture to show what a 10 looks like?[/QUOTE]If you don't know what a 10 looks like I can't help you.
The conversation about rates seems to be a topic of debate in the Colombia forum just like in the Brazil forum. If everything goes well I'll be on the ground next month and ready to add fuel to the fire regarding rates LOL.
For a monger like me that's coming in hot and ready to unload as many times as I humanly can, do you think denying myself the chance of screwing a 18-19 year old girl because I won't pay $50-60 USD more is going to make sense? Hell no! Likewise, if by saving $40 USD I only get to fuck 5's or 6's or even 7's, is that acceptable to me? Of course not. I come for 8's and above, and like the old say goes sometimes you get what you pay for. Is that always the case? No, sometimes you still get duds, even for higher price. To me, a casual monger dropping in for a short time the formula to calculate value is impacted by the factor of time.
So, to those complaining so much to us willing to pay more, either pay up or don't, but try to understand your fellow mongers in desperate need of release, we live in pussy prison and need a escape too, show some solidarity and applaud our exploits just like we applaud your $40 savings each time you bang a young hottie way above your league while using google translate to ask for a discount LOL.
I can't wait to hit the ground and will report back as always!
[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2703805]The conversation about rates seems to be a topic of debate in the Colombia forum just like in the Brazil forum. If everything goes well I'll be on the ground next month and ready to add fuel to the fire regarding rates LOL.
For a monger like me that's coming in hot and ready to unload as many times as I humanly can, do you think denying myself the chance of screwing a 18-19 year old girl because I won't pay $50-60 USD more is going to make sense? Hell no! Likewise, if by saving $40 USD I only get to fuck 5's or 6's or even 7's, is that acceptable to me? Of course not. I come for 8's and above, and like the old say goes sometimes you get what you pay for. Is that always the case? No, sometimes you still get duds, even for higher price. To me, a casual monger dropping in for a short time the formula to calculate value is impacted by the factor of time.
So, to those complaining so much to us willing to pay more, either pay up or don't, but try to understand your fellow mongers in desperate need of release, we live in pussy prison and need a escape too, show some solidarity and applaud our exploits just like we applaud your $40 savings each time you bang a young hottie way above your league while using google translate to ask for a discount LOL.
I can't wait to hit the ground and will report back as always![/QUOTE]Looking forward to your report. Have a great time and bang some 9's and 10's for me.
Tonight may have been Freckle's and my last night together. She is leaving for Peru Sunday. She doesn't like it here in Colombia. I thought she was embedded in a family unit that included Freckle, her hawt Ground Zero sister, and her sister's boyfriend at the dicey El Centro hotel I stayed when I first landed. But the novio got in a fight with some other chicos and now they are scattered like leaves in the wind. Freckle has family in Peru and off she goes Sunday, she says.
There may not be a lot of substance to the relationship between Freckle and I, but she is hands-down the most stress free chica with whom I have had the pleasure to hang out with. Good that's she's leaving. If she stayed, I could get stupid over her in terms of big head / little head as fast as Sexy Lexy or Catgirl, but Freckle doesn't ask for much. Don't go chasing waterfalls.
She spent 24 hours straight with me ending yesterday and wanted 200.000 COP. My cheap ass even tried to pay her only 100.000 but she gave me that "WTF, are you kidding me?" look that so many 18 year olds-have purrfeckted. I quickly added another cien-note. I can be such a cheap bastard at times, and then other times I waste money like nuclear war is impending.
Managerette is supposed to dye my hair in my hotel room tomorrow, for our trip to the party in Guatape this weekend. The dye job was supposed to be today, but I was in rough shape. Too much drugs the night before, or for the alcoholics in the room, a Top Ten hangover. Pumpkin and I have a scheduled session tomorrow and she is really counting on the money for her kid's 7th birthday Saturday. Sexy Lexy agreed to spend tomorrow night or as they chicas here put it, "wake up together" for that recent overnight no-show when her kid was sick and they went to the emergency department.
Then, there is Catgirl, my perennial Number One, she is back in Medellin. I have not seen her yet. The dynamic changes the most for Scarlet when Catgirl is around. They are Numero Uno and Dos. They have never met. Catgirl once saw Scarlet in the lobby of Hotel La Dorado on Avenida 70 when they were crossing paths. I think that is the only real pressure point on The List at this time. Between Numero Uno and Numero Dos. They both know Catgirl will always be Numero Uno.
The List worked well today when two chicas who had never met before, showed up at the same time to nurse my hangover. We had a nice visit that included my wingman and friend. Freckle is on The List, Managerette is not, so guess who had to go home?
Fotos: Freckle crotch shot and taking domicilio (food delivery) at the door. Pumpkin camel toe. She looks pregnant in that foto but she's not, it's the camera angle and she's bloated from just eating a pile of Colombian street food. Always love me a good camel toe.
[QUOTE=Hunglow1625;2703258]So many of you coming here are absolutely ruining the PPP game here.
I've been coming here since 2005 and have watched it crumble.
Ill be 60 this year. Speak very little Spanish, yes I use a translator and I'm average in looks.
The day I start paying 400 & 500 cop & up is when its time to stay home! 200 - 250 COP is the normal. Stop ruining the game here fools!
Idiots paying 1 mil per meet. Yes you are idiots and are frowned upon![/QUOTE]Hunglow what you and your fellow 100-250 k cop cohort don't seem to grasp is that everything in life has levels.
There are different levels to this game and each monger is playing in his respective level. There really is no overlap in my experience zip, zero, nada! The girls that I pursue would never ever consider an offer of 200 k, they would immediately say no or some will not even say anything and just automatically block you. When you look at it from this lens, we aren't playing on the same field so its almost impossible that a person playing in the higher cost talent pool is disrupting the economics of the lower end.
Let's use a few analogies. Marriott has category 1 through 8 hotels, do you think staying at a category 1 Fairfield Inn should cost the same as staying at a category 8St. Regis or Ritz Carlton? Do you think there is a difference between driving a Hyundai vs driving a Porsche, do you think the Hyundai and Porsche should cost the same? Some guys don't mind spending less for an average 5 to 6 range young lady, others prefer to spend more for quality, those mongers want the 8 to 9 range and aren't afraid to spend to get it.
And no Sir you can not make the argument that the two groups of ladies described above are the same because they are not. Just like hotels, cars and everything else in this world there are different options for budget and premium.
Different levels for different budgets and in the end, not always but most of the time you do get what you pay for.
So I'm watching an episode of Law & Order Criminal Intent and Goren goes to this NYC establishment where you pay to dance and / or drink with good looking women. I guess it existed in the past [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxi_dancer[/URL] and it was big in the US at one time 1920's, 1930's until they got their panties in a bunch. It seems like since Colombia doesn't have the massage parlors of Thailand and lots of people needing money that clubs like that would be something that could exist here. Are there any out there already? I've never seen mention of them, although I have seen mention of swingers which is something I'm interested in mainly for the gangbang aspect that's kind of died out around Tampa from what it was in the glory days but that's another story.
So do any pay to dance with a hottie type of places exist here or anyplace else in the world?
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2703787]If you don't know what a 10 looks like I can't help you.[/QUOTE]I happen to not think a Seeking 10 is the same as a 10.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2703654]...if she turns out to be a dud, you can pay, walk out, and grab another one....[/QUOTE]The chance of Faybook girl turns out to be a dud is much lower than a street girl. You also have not factored the commute time into it. There are other factors like a getting a hot girl that dresses and behaves like some super star who sucks you on a high floor with the city right in front and beneath you. It's an experience. LOL.