Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2827447]Further agree. The only one that was ever worth a shit for me was when I paid waaaay tooo much.

You want a threesome go to an FKK.[/QUOTE]If you want a good threesome just be up front with what the fuck you want and tell the girls and make sure they understand. Its not that hard, you people are getting weird. You pay them and tell them what to deliver. Same everywhere. FKKs ain't neccesairly going to be better. The only ones that are going to be better is getting western escorts that work as a pair and are already into each other and go there excited that they get to do lesbian action with their friend and have a threeway. Thailand is fine. Plenty of good threesome, some less good, but being upfront and clear on what you want the experience to be is an easy way to solve most P4 P threesome issues.

Hell in thailand you can even ignore the whole FKK ripoff where they do 'lesbian show' instead of 'lesbian sex'.

Are beer bars scattered around Bangkok or just in red light districts? Can I get to a few no matter where in Bangkok I am in a 10 or 15 minute motor bike taxi? Thanks for any info.

I stayed for a while in the middle of phuket and there were 4 or so areas I could go to find some in a short bike taxi

[QUOTE=Horatio;2827884]Are beer bars scattered around Bangkok or just in red light districts? Can I get to a few no matter where in Bangkok I am in a 10 or 15 minute motor bike taxi? Thanks for any info.

I stayed for a while in the middle of phuket and there were 4 or so areas I could go to find some in a short bike taxi[/QUOTE]I've spent about 7 nights in BKK hotels outside of red light areas, I found zero girly beer bars in the immediate areas. I did find a very few street freelancers and a couple of regular massage places that were willing to provide full services.

Options were few. Very few.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2827884]Are beer bars scattered around Bangkok or just in red light districts?[/QUOTE]Almost entirely in the areas that cater to naughty boys: Soi Cowboy and lower Sukhumvit, near the Nana Skytrain station.

In Pattaya, by way of contrast, beer bars are everywhere. Some might not have very many girls, or very many attractive girls. But if you want to sit in a semi-outdoor place and have a cold one you never have to walk more than about 50 meters.

Bunky

[QUOTE=GrapeMan;2827604]...Hell in thailand you can even ignore the whole FKK ripoff where they do 'lesbian show' instead of 'lesbian sex'.[/QUOTE]FKK ripoff? I've been to the FKKs in Germany and Switzerland, many many times and I have never seen them advertise lesbian shows. It's all about sex between FKK girls and customers. The closest it got to shows was at times the girl themselves would start a dance show late at night to their own home music. That was quite fun to watch actually.

[QUOTE=Betong;2827436]More often they bring in a friend of theirs they feel sorry for because she can't get customers on her own. It's silly, paying for two girls but only choosing one of them yourself.[/QUOTE]That is indeed more often than not the girl your first girl will choose for your threesome. In Thailand, that is. Then in the room you will find out why that second girl hadn't been taken or repeated by a customer in a long, long time.

And on another point that was made about this, I doubt anybody is as upfront and detailed about what the fuck I want to happen in the room before I take individual girls or the rare two girls at a time as I am. Including not taking them until I get a clear and unambiguous affirmative Yes to the critical details.

Doesn't matter. Again, in Thailand, that is.

When one or two Thai girls in your room decide they're going to renege on any or all of what they agreed to upfront, they will no matter how detailed or firm you and they were about it. Without hesitation. In the case if a threesome your best potential result is that only one hides in the toilet or just watches on the sidelines while at least the other one delivers the goods as agreed upfront. Yeah, you can cancel the money part of the deal with the slacker and put that one out with taxi fare. But that is no longer a threesome, right? Or you can cancel both, suit up and go back out to negotiate, detail and arrange a whole new threesome out there somewhere with two new girls. If you really enjoy repeating that part of the experience over and over again.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2827947]That is indeed more often than not the girl your first girl will choose for your threesome. In Thailand, that is. Then in the room you will find out why that second girl hadn't been taken or repeated by a customer in a long, long time.

And on another point that was made about this, I doubt anybody is as upfront and detailed about what the fuck I want to happen in the room before I take individual girls or the rare two girls at a time as I am. Including not taking them until I get a clear and unambiguous affirmative Yes to the critical details.

Doesn't matter. Again, in Thailand, that is.

When one or two Thai girls in your room decide they're going to renege on any or all of what they agreed to upfront, they will no matter how detailed or firm you and they were about it. Without hesitation. In the case if a threesome your best potential result is that only one hides in the toilet or just watches on the sidelines while at least the other one delivers the goods as agreed upfront. Yeah, you can cancel the money part of the deal with the slacker and put that one out with taxi fare. But that is no longer a threesome, right? Or you can cancel both, suit up and go back out to negotiate, detail and arrange a whole new threesome out there somewhere with two new girls. If you really enjoy repeating that part of the experience over and over again.[/QUOTE]In my experience East Euro FKK girls like girl on girl action more than Thai girls. I don't bother with Thai threesomes any more.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2827925]FKK ripoff? I've been to the FKKs in Germany and Switzerland, many many times and I have never seen them advertise lesbian shows. It's all about sex between FKK girls and customers. The closest it got to shows was at times the girl themselves would start a dance show late at night to their own home music. That was quite fun to watch actually.[/QUOTE]Oh dude, you're missing out some stuff. FKK girls generally have two things, 'lesbian show' which is them dancing around, blah blah blah, in the same room, touching a little, etc. This is what they generally sell, mostly, and its part of stuff they are supposed to do for the FKK and get paid for it. Some FKKs will advertise lesbian shows for everyone or advertise it otherwise, or won't be girls will still do it.

'Lesbian Sex' you can ask from many of them as well, they generally don't advertise it too much, depends on the specific place, but that's when the girls actually do lesbian or lesbian threesome with you, but not all girls will do it, and they sometimes try to say 'lesbian show' instead of 'lesbian sex', to get some cash withhout having to do actual lesbian stuff.

The all you can fuck FKKs used to do this too, but many others do as well, and such. Some girls offer it with a friend, or say can I bring a friend, you just be up front and ask for sex not show and they know what's up and may or may not do it.

A funny one happened to me once, 2 girls were putting on a lesbian show (dancing etc.) I asked to grab one to fuck, she said after show. When show ended she asked if I wanted both instead of just her, and said, sure, but lesbian sex not just show, both said ok, and well, threesome w / lesbian happened, easy enough, you just got to be clear.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2827947]That is indeed more often than not the girl your first girl will choose for your threesome. In Thailand, that is. Then in the room you will find out why that second girl hadn't been taken or repeated by a customer in a long, long time.

And on another point that was made about this, I doubt anybody is as upfront and detailed about what the fuck I want to happen in the room before I take individual girls or the rare two girls at a time as I am. Including not taking them until I get a clear and unambiguous affirmative Yes to the critical details.

Doesn't matter. Again, in Thailand, that is.

When one or two Thai girls in your room decide they're going to renege on any or all of what they agreed to upfront, they will no matter how detailed or firm you and they were about it. Without hesitation. In the case if a threesome your best potential result is that only one hides in the toilet or just watches on the sidelines while at least the other one delivers the goods as agreed upfront. Yeah, you can cancel the money part of the deal with the slacker and put that one out with taxi fare. But that is no longer a threesome, right? Or you can cancel both, suit up and go back out to negotiate, detail and arrange a whole new threesome out there somewhere with two new girls. If you really enjoy repeating that part of the experience over and over again.[/QUOTE]You're super experienced, but this is also a if you're not an older man, things go a lot easier. So take some YMMV across the spectrum here. If I've been clear with the girls what's going to happen, and she brings a friend, I haven't had issues. The variability of how girls treat board members and other patrons are really all over the place.

Oddly enough, I've often found the 'second girl' is many times more into lesbian than the first and that's not at all uncommon on why they were chosen to join. A funny one was I can't remember the club, it wasn't Eden, but might have been, not sure, I feel it wasn't. A bunch of decent girls, asked who would do two girl lesbian to mamasan, she recommended one, I wasn't on board with it, but the girls heard what I wanted and a few were like raised there hand and said they did, choose one (not one mamasan said), she just looked at a friend and I said ok. In the room the girl I choose was english OK and said the other girl is one that likes lesbian the most so she does threesomes with all the other girls, but she's often not a first choice pick so other girls often pick her for lesbian, since she's into it.

[QUOTE=GrapeMan;2828478]You're super experienced, but this is also a if you're not an older man, things go a lot easier. So take some YMMV across the spectrum here. If I've been clear with the girls what's going to happen, and she brings a friend, I haven't had issues. The variability of how girls treat board members and other patrons are really all over the place.

Oddly enough, I've often found the 'second girl' is many times more into lesbian than the first and that's not at all uncommon on why they were chosen to join. A funny one was I can't remember the club, it wasn't Eden, but might have been, not sure, I feel it wasn't. A bunch of decent girls, asked who would do two girl lesbian to mamasan, she recommended one, I wasn't on board with it, but the girls heard what I wanted and a few were like raised there hand and said they did, choose one (not one mamasan said), she just looked at a friend and I said ok. In the room the girl I choose was english OK and said the other girl is one that likes lesbian the most so she does threesomes with all the other girls, but she's often not a first choice pick so other girls often pick her for lesbian, since she's into it.[/QUOTE]It is also dramatically variable based on the looks, age and level of competence and confidence of the girls one chooses.

I have known guys in their 20's and 30's, much better looking than I am or was at their age, even more fluent in Thai than I am and have mongered here plenty, lived here for months at time in fact who report the exact same Yes Upfront vs No In The Room bullshit I mentioned. Often.

But, like me, they tend to take girls who are definitely not needy for customers, never short on cash and don't work in the accept-all-comers so-called PSE shops.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2828623]It is also dramatically variable based on the looks, age and level of competence and confidence of the girls one chooses.

I have known guys in their 20's and 30's, much better looking than I am or was at their age, even more fluent in Thai than I am and have mongered here plenty, lived here for months at time in fact who report the exact same Yes Upfront vs No In The Room bullshit I mentioned. Often.

But, like me, they tend to take girls who are definitely not needy for customers, never short on cash and don't work in the accept-all-comers so-called PSE shops.[/QUOTE]I'm old and the girls (especially in Thermae) love me because I'm not going to pound the shit out of them and pay well.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2828623]It is also dramatically variable based on the looks, age and level of competence and confidence of the girls one chooses.

I have known guys in their 20's and 30's, much better looking than I am or was at their age, even more fluent in Thai than I am and have mongered here plenty, lived here for months at time in fact who report the exact same Yes Upfront vs No In The Room bullshit I mentioned. Often.

But, like me, they tend to take girls who are definitely not needy for customers, never short on cash and don't work in the accept-all-comers so-called PSE shops.[/QUOTE]Understood, I think I'm more making a point that this board tends to skew much older (and often of course quite experienced, which is an understatement) and that's most certainly not the same experience many visitors to thailand being 20's and 30's and such experience walking into a random MP or gogo. There's a huge difference between a 65 year old fat english bloke and a 35 year old decent guy and the two sides probably don't even know the other exists or is treated differently. Everyone is a mark, and girls are different, but the situation is what it is.

[QUOTE=GrapeMan;2828755]Understood, I think I'm more making a point that this board tends to skew much older (and often of course quite experienced, which is an understatement) and that's most certainly not the same experience many visitors to thailand being 20's and 30's and such experience walking into a random MP or gogo. There's a huge difference between a 65 year old fat english bloke and a 35 year old decent guy and the two sides probably don't even know the other exists or is treated differently. Everyone is a mark, and girls are different, but the situation is what it is.[/QUOTE]Asian girls have no problem with old guys and tend to prefer them. Even fat English blokes can be decent LOL.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2828704]I'm old and the girls (especially in Thermae) love me because I'm not going to pound the shit out of them and pay well.[/QUOTE]Haha. I won't be pounding the shit out of them either and I am willing to pay well too. But only if it is for DFK + BBBJ + BBFSCIP, all agreed to upfront and no tricks. That level of service with a notably attractive girl will for the most part eliminate Thermae as a viable mongering destination for me and, well, practically every other punter of any age, level of fitness and ethnicity I have ever met and chatted with about it over the years. I am sure there must be exceptions here and there. And for sure the Yes Upfront vs No In The Room bit is always a distinct possibility when BBFSCIP is in the upfront deal.

The mind reels at the potential hassles, money and hazards involved in getting two notably better than average lookers in Thermae to both agree upfront to my version of Real Sex in a threesome. Covered sex with such lookers in Thermae? I doubt it would be a problem for me to swing that any night of the week at no more than the going rate. But they would have to pay me double the going rate, each, to convince me to waste an hour of my life trying.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2828767]Haha. I won't be pounding the shit out of them either and I am willing to pay well too. But only if it is for DFK + BBBJ + BBFSCIP, all agreed to upfront and no tricks. That level of service with a notably attractive girl will for the most part eliminate Thermae as a viable mongering destination for me and, well, practically every other punter of any age, level of fitness and ethnicity I have ever met and chatted with about it over the years. I am sure there must be exceptions here and there. And for sure the Yes Upfront vs No In The Room bit is always a distinct possibility when BBFSCIP is in the upfront deal.

The mind reels at the potential hassles, money and hazards involved in getting two notably better than average lookers in Thermae to both agree upfront to my version of Real Sex in a threesome. Covered sex with such lookers in Thermae? I doubt it would be a problem for me to swing that any night of the week at no more than the going rate. But they would have to pay me double the going rate, each, to convince me to waste an hour of my life trying.[/QUOTE]Oh my EihTooms.

You have such an expressive way with words.

I can just picture the Thermae conversation.