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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2704088]30 k + 10 k for the room, which may not have hot water, a shower, clean sheets, more than 1 towel, toilet paper or even a toilet seat for maybe 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]You left one item out, a showerhead on the shower if it's not a toilet wipe room! LOL.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2704020]Come on, if a girl is in top 3-5%, on any platform, she doesn't have to do shit. Take a few nice photos, upload them and wait. Top girls are always overwhelmed by offers and can be very selective. Eating healthy, exercising, taking care of hair, nails etc requires some time and effort, but all of these is not even close to hustling.
Someone asked for a 10/10 SA girl, just for reference purposes. Here is one that I consider a solid 9, she is on SA and you won't find her in El Centro or Parque Lleras, and certainly, won't fuck her for 200 mil. She probably won't even reply to you, if you don't mention some crazy numbers in your opening message.[/QUOTE]Bro,
She's a solid 5. Is this what we are doing here? Lmaoooooooo the streets of parque Lleras has better looking girls. I wouldn't even offer her 100 k. I know everyone has different taste but this is the reason 4&5 are demanding outrageous prices because you guys are treating them like 9&10's. For reference this is an 8.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/CZo_M6rLc8u/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=[/URL]
[QUOTE=Nounce;2703160]These ask for 400 based on my experience. It is for your reference, it does not mean I have sessioned with them. I am doing this in hope others will do the same, and not just talk about prices which is not that important without a face IMO.[/QUOTE]Did either of these girls allow bareback?
[QUOTE=Chicago85;2703976]Agree 110%. Many guys on here seem to think the girls are a commodity, but they're not. Just like cars there are different classes and types. Some are late model domestics with great features (some plastic) and value, some are higher end sportscars with the additional looks and style, others are F-250 duallys (big bunda girls). There may be some overlap in price depending on mileage, where you buy, and how well you negotiate, but there is a wide range. If you want the new Ferrari you're going to pay more than the new Honda. If you want it in Dubai you're going to pay more than buying in the country it's made.
Similarly sometimes you just need a car to get from point A to be, sometimes you want a different thrill (I. E. 4 x4 off-roading), and other times you want to splurge on a nice ride when you're on vacation. Some of you all like to take the bus with others and tag team a girl or have an orgy.
Anyway, that's best analogy I can think of after 2 cups of coffee LOL.[/QUOTE]I think this is a great analogy haha. I agree 100% too. I don't think me paying and extra 50 k or 100 k here or there will effect anyone's ability to have fun in Medellin. Even if I was paying 1 mil per meet (I'm not) it should not matter to anybody as I feel the girls will get what they can from who they think they can.
For example, my buddy and I see some of the same FB girls. One of the girls I see for 300 k a session, but that same girl will not see my buddy for less than 400 k plus 50 k for taxi. No matter how many times he pays this much she has never said I have to pay her the same, much to my buddy's annoyance haha.
This is specially so for girls in different venues. Someone paying a million to a girl on FB or SA for example will have no affect for someone going to to EL Centro or the casas because its two different level of people they cater to. I could never get a centro girl, its not a place I would ever be comfortable picking up a girl, and there is guys who would never use SA for example. And that's fine. There is enough girls in Medellin for every guy no matter what you are willing to pay. Nobody is ruining anything for paying what they are comfortable paying. Lets all relax a little.
I just have to say that anyone that pays one 400 mil or even 200 mil is crazy. 30 or 40 is the going rate in botero depending.
For what its worth I had the best BJ of my life the other day. I am near 60 and have never been able to come by BJ alone. THis girl was a winner. Swallowed and everything NOt the best looker but what the hell.
Price 5 mil price for the hotel 5 mil.
If you guys are pay the gringo tax well your making it harder for the rest of us.
Another thing botero after dark risky? no way. of course it depends on the hour and how wasted you are, but i have never had a problem. risky, try avenue bolovar by yourself. ofcourse there are other areas, you can always go to pablado
[QUOTE=Member#2001;2704252]I just have to say that anyone that pays one 400 mil or even 200 mil is crazy. 30 or 40 is the going rate in botero depending.
For what its worth I had the best BJ of my life the other day. I am near 60 and have never been able to come by BJ alone. THis girl was a winner. Swallowed and everything NOt the best looker but what the hell.
Price 5 mil price for the hotel 5 mil.
If you guys are pay the gringo tax well your making it harder for the rest of us.
Another thing botero after dark risky? no way. of course it depends on the hour and how wasted you are, but i have never had a problem. risky, try avenue bolovar by yourself. ofcourse there are other areas, you can always go to pablado[/QUOTE]Nobody is paying 200 k or 400 k in Botero Plaza. At least I would hope not. Those are rates being paid for Facebook girls, Escorts, or other girls who come to you. They aren't having any effect on the guys pulling street girls in El Centro.
I used to walk around the area at night, until 10 or 10:30. Then one night I saw 2 young guys beating and robbing an old guy and watched all the other people disappear. After that I stopped walking around that late and usually left the area around 8:30.
Congrats on the BJ though.
[QUOTE=Member#2001;2704252]I just have to say that anyone that pays one 400 mil or even 200 mil is crazy. 30 or 40 is the going rate in botero depending.
For what its worth I had the best BJ of my life the other day. I am near 60 and have never been able to come by BJ alone. THis girl was a winner. Swallowed and everything NOt the best looker but what the hell.
Price 5 mil price for the hotel 5 mil.
If you guys are pay the gringo tax well your making it harder for the rest of us.
Another thing botero after dark risky? no way. of course it depends on the hour and how wasted you are, but i have never had a problem. risky, try avenue bolovar by yourself. ofcourse there are other areas, you can always go to pablado[/QUOTE]200,000 is NOT crazy unless the woman is ugly or untalented. Usually (not in every case but usually) you can pick ONLY two of these three things: quality of her carnal skills, high quality beauty, low price.
[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2704039]If enough people pay fast and easy, the market will obviously adjust higher[/QUOTE]Partly true, except payment is irrelevant to price.
If by "enough people" you mean more mongers enter the market (increased demand) while the number of wet holes remains constant, then indeed price will go up overall, independent of what people pay. That is what is shown in the Supply & Demand graph I sketched.
However, there is no evidence of a shortage of supply of wet holes in Colombia. The mongering market here has proven to be very elastic over time (there's a pun in there somewhere), especially when you remember to correct for inflation.
If you are talking about a micro-market, such as competition for once specific chica, then her price can be sensitive to changes in small numbers of mongers seeking her attention (changes in demand).
What do you think will happen if suddenly one of the high priced girls stops getting offers (for any reason, it doesn't matter)? She will lower her price due to decreased demand. To make some money is better than making no money. Price is an independent variable. This sounds counter-intuitive to most, but it has been proven true in every free market in the world for over 100 years.
Mongers get emotional about this topic because they think someone else's payment is spoiling their fun. First of all, money and emotion do not mix well. Gambling, sex, impulse buying, keeping up with the Joneses, you name it.
I will always stand up for this principle because it is absolutely wrong to blame what others pay as having any effect on what you pay. If you want to keep the prices down, then discourage other mongers from coming here in the first place. I have suggested this many times. That keeps demand and pricing stable, assuming the supply of wet holes is elastic (there's that pun we were looking for), which a lot of us believe it to be.
If price goes up, one of two things happened. Demand (number of mongers) went up, while the supply of wet holes stayed the same, went down, or did not increase enough to meet the new demand. Or supply (number of wet holes went down) went down without a corresponding decrease in demand.
Once a monger has arrived into the market, it's too late to control price. That ship has sailed, so to speak. Supply and demand will always reach an equilibrium point in any free market. The number of mongerers is what counts in our market, not what they pay. Of course, supply, or the number of wet holes matters too, but I believe this is one of the most elastic markets out there, and supply seems to meet demand almost purrfektly, although that point is debatable.
[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2704201]Nobody is ruining anything for paying what they are comfortable paying. Lets all relax a little.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2704117]....If you ask 1000 men to rate her on 1 to 10 scale, I can pretty much guarantee her average score will not be lower than 7.[/QUOTE]If you ask 1000 men to rate her on a scale from 1 to 10 you will get ratings ranging from 1 to 10.
[QUOTE=SteelDh;2704155]Bro,
She's a solid 5. Is this what we are doing here? Lmaoooooooo the streets of parque Lleras has better looking girls. I wouldn't even offer her 100 k. I know everyone has different taste but this is the reason 4&5 are demanding outrageous prices because you guys are treating them like 9&10's. For reference this is an 8.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/CZo_M6rLc8u/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=[/URL][/QUOTE]6 at best, Imo, lol.
Rating scale means nothing, but for the individual. Geez.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2704141]All due respect, but there are lots of guys, myself included, who have interactions with street girls that involve much more than just a release.
And what you didn't mention are the casa's, which truly fit the definition of a venue for guys that want a release as they are much more impersonal than what can transpire in the street scene.
I believe there are other members here familiar with the street scene who can corroborate what I am saying.[/QUOTE]No doubt about it.
One of the reasons I dig the street scene is the ability to chat, and get to know a bit.
[QUOTE=TooDirty;2703875]that's kind of died out around Tampa from what it was in the glory days but that's another story.
So do any pay to dance with a hottie type of places exist here or anyplace else in the world?[/QUOTE]Curious, when do you consider the "glory days" of Tampa to be?
A lot of my girls, I don't know, about half, start out our sessions dancing nude. I realize that is not what you were talking about but I agree that watching a naked pretty girl doing a sexy dance is a good way to get the juices flowing.
A lot of people talk like it's their free choice what they will or won't pay, which may be true, but a lot of guys operate under financial constraints or a "budget". This can indirectly shape their tastes for certain types of girls and directly effect the market in which they operate, SA, FB, casas, Ground Zero, etc.
Besides payment being irrelevant to setting the price in a free market, stating what anyone else pays is "right or wrong" could be that person projecting his own financial situation into the mix. For enough guys, whether they pay 30.000 or 100.000 or 250.000 or even a million may not be a key factor, although almost everyone appreciates a value.
I have a few girls in my line up who were either new or fresh to the game and I am sure they would be some guys 9 or 10, but they basically don't know it yet or they don't understand the market. One girl in particular, Purrfekt Paisa went from 70 mil sessions in my hotel room, to 2 million peso outings on a yacht with someone else over the period of several months. She would still come back to me, at her new mark-up price of 150 mil, jeje, although I recently lost track of her.
I guess that has sort of been my strategy, finding these diamonds in the rough, and then their friends, and friends of friends, while keeping their prices reasonable for my comfort level.
I found a few old fotos of Purrfekt Paisa. Physically, she was the total package. She is tall. She had a sweet enough personality, and a simple mind that was sufficiently pliable.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2704340]What do you think will happen if suddenly one of the high priced girls stops getting offers (for any reason, it doesn't matter)? She will lower her price due to decreased demand. To make some money is better than making no money. [/QUOTE]Maybe that is what you think will happen, but in Latin America everyone knows that the price will be raised to make up for the lost demand. To make more off 1 person is better than making less off a few people.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2704401]A lot of people talk like it's their free choice what they will or won't pay, which may be true, but a lot of guys operate under financial constraints or a "budget". This can indirectly shape their tastes for certain types of girls and directly effect the market in which they operate, SA, FB, casas, Ground Zero, etc.[/QUOTE]Imagine guy's that don't have any financial constraints or a budget, meaning they can afford to partake in their mongering venues as much as they want, in this situation, the real constraint becomes how many loads a guy is capable of blowing within hours.
I know guys, especially those who are older, who do not recharge as quickly who will at times go with a girl, and purposely hold back and save their load for another girl the same day or within hours.
Imagine your in a bar / club, or on the street, you've just finished with someone, and immediately afterwards in the same venue you see something that really get's your attention, but you know if you go with her, you won't finish as just not enough time has elapsed since the last one.
You talk about a frustrating situation, and truly a constraint, this is it, at least for me.